[Wikimedia-l] Re: Luis Bitencourt-Emilio Joins Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees

2022-01-13 Thread Dan Garry (Deskana)
Thanks for the update, Nataliia. Knowledge and expertise in product and technology is a skill set that has been lacking on the Board, and it's great to see the Board addressing this by co-opting product and technology leaders. Luis's experience, such as his time at reddit, will likely be very

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Movement Charter Drafting Committee elections are now open!

2021-10-20 Thread Dan Garry (Deskana)
On Wed, 20 Oct 2021 at 10:10, Dan Garry (Deskana) wrote: > You're definitely right about that. SecurePoll is a mess. I was the > product lead for a project to improve it in 2014, and whilst we did manage > to make quite a few improvements to the functionality and management, we &

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Movement Charter Drafting Committee elections are now open!

2021-10-20 Thread Dan Garry (Deskana)
On Mon, 18 Oct 2021 at 12:30, Jan Ainali wrote: > I just wanted to note that UI of SecurePoll caused problem in the board > election too, and that the same excuse was used then "in a short time once". > Obviously this is a piece of infrastructure that we need in the movement > and that any team

[Wikimedia-l] Re: 100$ million dollars and still obsolete

2021-10-15 Thread Dan Garry (Deskana)
On Fri, 15 Oct 2021 at 11:03, Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga < galder...@hotmail.com> wrote: > Thanks Dan for using the Excuse 6: *At this point in the circle, there is > some volunteer who wants to fix this and raises the tone of the request. > Then we find the mother of all excuses, the wild card:

[Wikimedia-l] Re: 100$ million dollars and still obsolete

2021-10-15 Thread Dan Garry (Deskana)
On Fri, 15 Oct 2021 at 08:47, Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga < galder...@hotmail.com> wrote: > Dear all, > I don't know if this already has a name, but I'm going to invent one: The > Great Circle of Excuse. It works like this: we have all realized that > something needs to be improved, let's say the

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Welcoming María Sefidari as a Foundation consultant. :)

2021-06-25 Thread Dan Garry (Deskana)
On Thu, 24 Jun 2021 at 12:56, Chris Keating wrote: > Thanks for the detailed comments. However, still, this doesn't really help > that much. > > From your email it seems that over several months the WMF has created a > new role which just happens to be ideal for its outgoing Chair to fill, and >

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Welcoming María Sefidari as a Foundation consultant. :)

2021-06-25 Thread Dan Garry (Deskana)
On Fri, 25 Jun 2021 at 11:26, Andreas Kolbe wrote: > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FOs9_l33gY=13s > That is an unhelpful and incredibly inappropriate response. Dan ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list -- wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org, guidelines at:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Flourishing of the Endowment

2021-05-06 Thread Dan Garry (Deskana)
On Fri, 30 Apr 2021 at 15:02, Andreas Kolbe wrote: > The Wikimedia Endowment page on Meta[1] actually states very clearly in > its lead paragraph who benefits from the Endowment. It says, > > "The funds may be transferred from Tides either to the Wikimedia > Foundation or to other charitable

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Board Ratification of Universal Code of Conduct

2021-02-22 Thread Dan Garry (Deskana)
It's so great to see the Universal Code of Conduct come to fruition. As a movement we were severly lagging behind others in adopting a code of conduct, and I'm glad to see we've reached parity. This is a step in the right direction. Dan On Tue, 2 Feb 2021 at 11:59, María Sefidari wrote: > Hi

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF transfers $8.7 million to "Wikimedia Knowledge Equity Fund"

2021-01-02 Thread Dan Garry (Deskana)
On Sat, 2 Jan 2021 at 07:46, rupert THURNER wrote: > have a good start into the new year everybody! should not, ideally, the > legal team of amanda keton be able to tell if fundting something is legal? > or is this a liability issue, so tides would be liable for misconduct, and > not a person

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF transfers $8.7 million to "Wikimedia Knowledge Equity Fund"

2020-12-13 Thread Dan Garry (Deskana)
It seems disingenous to describe it as "secret" given that it was willingly acknowledged in the the FAQ of the annual financial audit

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Donations - show the editors you care?

2020-12-07 Thread Dan Garry (Deskana)
On Mon, 7 Dec 2020 at 12:38, Demian wrote: > I'm assuming this points to the namespace of the edits, although it's not > clear. It's unfortunate that Visual Editor can only be used in mainspace, I > wish that wasn't the case, but to be exact, I was looking to understand why > only 2.8% (47 out

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Donations - show the editors you care?

2020-12-07 Thread Dan Garry (Deskana)
On Mon, 7 Dec 2020 at 05:55, Demian wrote: > With these different aspects in mind I wonder why you find the Visual > Editor a dream to use, given that on average at most 4 in 500 of your > edits >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Moving the technical infrastructure out of the US

2020-09-30 Thread Dan Garry (Deskana)
On Wed, 30 Sep 2020 at 09:49, Erik Moeller wrote: > I hope that some preliminary contingency plans exist or are being > developed, and I'm sure that the movement-wide debate will widen if > the US continues its downward slide into authoritarianism. > I agree with Erik. Even under the Obama

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Foundation and affiliates disclosing salaries on job ads & the effect of this on workplace equity

2020-09-12 Thread Dan Garry (Deskana)
On Fri, 11 Sep 2020 at 22:23, Michael Peel wrote: > This seems to be a restriction against employers asking for someone’s > salary history, not against including the expected salary range in a job > advert. Yes. Apologies, the "undoubtedly not doing this" written in my earlier email was a bit

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Foundation and affiliates disclosing salaries on job ads & the effect of this on workplace equity

2020-09-12 Thread Dan Garry (Deskana)
On Fri, 11 Sep 2020 at 12:39, Nathan wrote: > Shouldn't two candidates for the same position for the same company get > roughly the same salary, regardless of where they live? > I don't know. Maybe. Within the US, there are markets where decent, experienced software engineers earn half of what

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Foundation and affiliates disclosing salaries on job ads & the effect of this on workplace equity

2020-09-11 Thread Dan Garry (Deskana)
Asking candidates for their current salary is prohibited in San Francisco as of July 2018 [1] which means that, as a San Francisco based organisation, the Foundation will undoubtedly not be doing this. To my knowledge, this wasn't done by the Foundation before either, but we can confidently state

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Institutional memory @ WMF

2020-08-26 Thread Dan Garry (Deskana)
On Wed, 26 Aug 2020 at 12:16, Strainu wrote: > Thanks for the response Dan! > > A rigorous study is IMHO impossible, since we're lacking a rigorous > definition of the limits between WMF and community. > Absolutely agreed. > OK, but how is this done precisely? Are there written docs? Mentors?

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Institutional memory @ WMF

2020-08-26 Thread Dan Garry (Deskana)
On Tue, 25 Aug 2020 at 22:26, Strainu wrote: > The pattern I'm seeing is: team gets a big project (in this case UCoC) > -> team hires -> newbie makes good faith edits that are known to cause > offense to some members of the community. This is basically always going to happen when new people

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Universal Code of Conduct Drafting Committee - Call for participation

2020-07-31 Thread Dan Garry (Deskana)
On Fri, 31 Jul 2020 at 15:29, Todd Allen wrote: > That was a firm "No" on any Universal Code of Conduct. There shouldn't be a > "drafting committee" for it, it was disapproved. > It's not clear to me what you're referring to here. What is the "that" that was a "firm no"? Dan

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Paid API?

2020-07-09 Thread Dan Garry (Deskana)
On Thu, 9 Jul 2020 at 21:15, Dan Garry (Deskana) wrote: > ECR and GKE. > Correction: I meant GCR, not GKE. Dan ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.or

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Paid API?

2020-07-09 Thread Dan Garry (Deskana)
On Thu, 9 Jul 2020 at 18:20, Amir Sarabadani wrote: > * I find it ethically wrong to use AWS, even if you can't host it in WMF > for legal reasons, why not another cloud provider. Which cloud provider would you recommend? Popular alternatives to AWS include GCP (by Google, who unscrupulously

[Wikimedia-l] Status of APG and FDC?

2020-03-10 Thread Dan Garry (Deskana)
Hi all, Does anyone know what the status of the APG process and the FDC is? The documentation on-wiki seems to be out of date: - The APG info page [1] says new applications are not being accepted, and there's a bunch of errors in the table. - The APG page [2] doesn't make reference to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement Strategy: Recommendations and community conversations launching next week

2020-02-03 Thread Dan Garry (Deskana)
On Sat, 25 Jan 2020 at 23:49, Pine W wrote: > Here are a couple of arguments from WMF in favor of SuperProtect, which was > implemented to prevent local users from removing MediaViewer. Superprotect is now over five years old. Superprotect's removal is now over four years old. It was a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Ombuds Commission now accepting nominations for 2020

2019-10-11 Thread Dan Garry (Deskana)
On Fri, 11 Oct 2019 at 08:52, Henry Wood wrote: > So the Ombudsman Commission is managed by a department that they are > likely to want to report on? > No. The Ombudsman Commission oversees volunteer actions only. Complaints about staff should be sent directly to the Wikimedia Foundation. I

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] Community Tech: New Format for 2020 Wishlist Survey

2019-10-07 Thread Dan Garry (Deskana)
On Sun, 6 Oct 2019 at 05:50, Gerard Meijssen wrote: > The disappointing you show and the grotesque conclusions are imho based > in a sense of entitlement. I don't think calling Yuri's conclusions grotesque or saying he is entitled are particularly productive comments. Let's keep this list

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Introducing Wikimedia Space: A space for movement news and conversations

2019-06-26 Thread Dan Garry (Deskana)
On Wed 26 Jun 2019 at 00:58, Amir Sarabadani wrote: > I have no comment on Wikimedia Space. IMHO it's too soon to criticize it > but I want to point out to a pattern that I have been seeing in the past > couple of months by several people in this very mailing list. > > You have been repeating

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF commitment for a Wikimedia projects archive

2019-05-07 Thread Dan Garry (Deskana)
On Tue 7 May 2019 at 11:04, Fæ wrote: > I am sure this Wikimedia wide community run list is a perfectly good place > to check whether the WMF has any commitment to long term public archives, > or not. > > Thanks for your advice as to where to go, but the strategy process groups > are undoubtedly

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF commitment for a Wikimedia projects archive

2019-05-07 Thread Dan Garry (Deskana)
I think the correct venue to ask for such a large, cross-cutting, strategic commitment would be with the strategy process working groups, and not this mailing list. Did you try engaging with them? Dan On Tue, 7 May 2019 at 09:35, Fæ wrote: > With all of the strategy discussions still on-going,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Supporting Wikinews [was: Reviewing our brand system for our 2030 goals]

2019-04-17 Thread Dan Garry (Deskana)
On Wed, 17 Apr 2019 at 15:41, Yaroslav Blanter wrote: > Indeed, I am not a fan of Wikinews and I do not particularly see the > project as in any way successful. However, if the project is shut down > against the will of the community (I now mean the Wikinews community, or > perhaps even

[Wikimedia-l] Supporting Wikinews [was: Reviewing our brand system for our 2030 goals]

2019-04-16 Thread Dan Garry (Deskana)
Splitting off the Wikinews discussion from the branding discussion... On Tue, 16 Apr 2019 at 07:52, Jennifer Pryor-Summers < jennifer.pryorsumm...@gmail.com> wrote: > Compared to Wikitribune it is! But more importantly, if Wikinews is not > thriving, then why not? Does it lack resources? What

Re: [Wikimedia-l] branding is bikeshedding, how about CTO criteria or working group lists instead?

2019-04-16 Thread Dan Garry (Deskana)
On Mon, 15 Apr 2019 at 21:09, James Salsman wrote: > I withdraw any opinions and suggestions about the branding discussion, > and don't intend to continue participating in it. Instead, I would > like to have a more substantive discussion: > > (1) I ask that the CTO search team please publish

Re: [Wikimedia-l] branding is bikeshedding, how about CTO criteria or working group lists instead?

2019-04-16 Thread Dan Garry (Deskana)
On Tue, 16 Apr 2019 at 10:14, Gerard Meijssen wrote: > Hoi, > Thank you for your sense of superiority.. It's not helpful to sarcastically "thank" someone like this. I don't find Chris to have had a sense of superiority in his email, but even if he had, this is not the correct way to address

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia has been accepted as a mentor organization in GSoC 2019!

2019-02-28 Thread Dan Garry (Deskana)
As Srishti says, community wishlist items tend to be very under-defined, with open-ended and ambiguous deliverables, and exist in complex spaces. These things are okay because the people handling them are professionals who are trained specifically to distill open-ended projects into specific

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Strategic planning for conferences

2019-01-31 Thread Dan Garry (Deskana)
It may be helpful if you repeat the specific question you're asking. Right now from your email I don't know what your question is other than asking what the "strategy for conferences" is, which is so open and vague as to be basically unanswerable. I think you have perhaps made your question

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Survey about the Foundation's Mission

2019-01-16 Thread Dan Garry (Deskana)
James, As is fairly typical with your proposals, most of the proposals in the survey (free healthcare, universal basic income, etc.) have very little to do with the Foundation's mission. If you're going to do a survey, I suggest actually connecting it to the Foundation's mission, although sadly

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Update and feedback results from the Wikimedia's chairpersons retreat

2019-01-03 Thread Dan Garry (Deskana)
On Sun, 30 Dec 2018 at 03:39, Pine W wrote: > I am wondering whether, for the purposes of (1) increasing the cost > effectiveness of travel expenses, (2) reducing the negative environmental > effects from travel, and (3) increasing the number of chairpersons who > participate, if future meetings

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Mobile fundraising ads

2018-12-10 Thread Dan Garry (Deskana)
On Wed, 5 Dec 2018 at 11:44, vermont--- via Wikimedia-l < wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org> wrote: > Entering Wikipedia while not logged in, from both a PC and mobile device, > lead to an insane amount of large, bright red banners asking for donations. > Statistics may show that this sort of