Re: [Wikimedia-l] Practical implications of Coronavirus

2020-03-12 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
Dear Risker,

Many thanks for sharing - I know you're a professional in the field. This
is pretty much what we're doing as the WMF, and the affiliates surely can
follow suit.

All universities I'm currently affiliated with (Harvard, MIT, Kozminski)
cancelled all classes and move to virtual meetings only, too.

Best,

DJ "pundit"

On Thu, Mar 12, 2020, 00:54 Risker  wrote:

> Regardless of what platforms people might want to use for virtual meetings,
> it is my personal opinion that all movement organizations, groups (formal
> and informal) and the WMF itself immediately stop meeting in person. For
> the movement entities that have offices, work-from-home should be the
> standard (as it has been for the WMF for almost a week).  Edit-a-thons and
> similar meet-ups should be cancelled for the foreseeable future.  The broad
> movement has spent a lot of time talking about the safety and security of
> its communities, and this level of social distancing at this time is
> probably the best way to demonstrate that we really mean what we say.
> #CancelEverything is not just a cute hashtag - it's really serious, and our
> movement can be leaders in showing how it is done.
>
> I'm speaking from my own experience (having worked in a hospital with SARS
> patients and having participated in the development of pandemic plans for
> hospitals), so perhaps my perspective is different from other people's. But
> given there's very little downside to this proposal, there's no reason not
> to take these steps, at least for a few months while the world has a better
> sense of how this will all play out.
>
> Risker/Anne
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Practical implications of Coronavirus

2020-03-10 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
I am a big fan of open source, and setting up a Jitsi conference is a
solution that I often default too (with a bonus of having the possibility
to have easy placeholders, e.g. meet.jit.si/WikimediaSummit

best,

dj

On Tue, Mar 10, 2020 at 11:05 AM Yaroslav Blanter  wrote:

> For a setting with a lot of presentations and questions Zoom should work
> fine
>
>
> https://zoom.us/?zcid=2314=359453254254=%2Bzoom%20online%20%2Bmeeting=b=g=c=EAIaIQobChMIsI2o0JaQ6AIVBc13Ch0VxwqZEAAYASAAEgJs0_D_BwE
>
> but of course it would not provide any interaction between participants.
>
> Best
> Yaroslav
>
> On Tue, Mar 10, 2020 at 3:59 PM WereSpielChequers <
> werespielchequ...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > At last Sunday's London Meetup we discussed the situation and while not
> > wanting to seem over cautious (we were of course the dozen who'd decided
> to
> > attend). We realised that there was a good chance that the April and even
> > May meetings might need to go virtual.
> >
> > Is there a recommended software solution for video/audio conferencing a
> > dozen to twenty people?
> >
> > I took part in some not the wikipedia Weekly podcasts almost a decade
> ago,
> > but i'm assuming the technology has progressed since then.
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Not_The_Wikipedia_Weekly
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > WSC
> >
> > On Tue, 10 Mar 2020 at 13:27, 
> > wrote:
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> > >1. Re: 2020 Wikimania Scholarships now open (Dariusz Jemielniak)
> > >2. Re: 2020 Wikimania Scholarships now open (Gnangarra)
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > Message: 1
> > > Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2020 08:48:48 -0400
> > > From: Dariusz Jemielniak 
> > > To: Wikimedia Mailing List 
> > > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] 2020 Wikimania Scholarships now open
> > > Message-ID:
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> > > cadespguuq96jzaylkajfipv-isfmqvcul8nhm+scbjxagfd...@mail.gmail.com>
> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I believe it likely is too early to make a decision. We have a
> > professional
> > > team at the WMF monitoring the situation, but the date is still 5
> months
> > in
> > > the future.
> > >
> > > It is reasonable to expect that we may need to make adjustments to the
> > > situation as it develops and in 2-3 months it will be much clearer
> where
> > we
> > > stand.
> > >
> > > For now, I think it is already fair to say that the WMF leadership is
> not
> > > shying away from difficult decisions (the summit cancellation, closing
> > down
> > > the office, canceling international travel for staff) and clearly
> > > prioritizes our safety.
> > >
> > > I trust the judgment of our staff when they communicate clearly that
> they
> > > are considering all options and will.make a decision in due time.
> > >
> > > Best,
> > >
> > > Dj "pundit"
> > >
> > > On Tue, Mar 10, 2020, 00:45 Rehman Abubakr 
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > I too have cancelled all personal/work/wiki travel plans. The risks
> are
> > > > far too great.
> > > >
> > > > A single infection at the conference, depending on who/where, has the
> > > > potential to cause significant damage to the Movement.
> > > >
> > > > I understand the sheer effort that has already been put, but I
> strongly
> > > > hope the Foundation will postpone the conference or cancel this
> year's
> > > > conference for the safety of the volunteers, and to prevent the risk
> of
> > > > spreading it to more parts 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] 2020 Wikimania Scholarships now open

2020-03-10 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
Hi,

I believe it likely is too early to make a decision. We have a professional
team at the WMF monitoring the situation, but the date is still 5 months in
the future.

It is reasonable to expect that we may need to make adjustments to the
situation as it develops and in 2-3 months it will be much clearer where we
stand.

For now, I think it is already fair to say that the WMF leadership is not
shying away from difficult decisions (the summit cancellation, closing down
the office, canceling international travel for staff) and clearly
prioritizes our safety.

I trust the judgment of our staff when they communicate clearly that they
are considering all options and will.make a decision in due time.

Best,

Dj "pundit"

On Tue, Mar 10, 2020, 00:45 Rehman Abubakr 
wrote:

> I too have cancelled all personal/work/wiki travel plans. The risks are
> far too great.
>
> A single infection at the conference, depending on who/where, has the
> potential to cause significant damage to the Movement.
>
> I understand the sheer effort that has already been put, but I strongly
> hope the Foundation will postpone the conference or cancel this year's
> conference for the safety of the volunteers, and to prevent the risk of
> spreading it to more parts of the world.
>
>
>
> Yours truly,
>
> Rehman
>
> 
> From: Wikimedia-l  on behalf of
> James Heilman 
> Sent: 09 March 2020 22:51
> To: Wikimedia Mailing List 
> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] 2020 Wikimania Scholarships now open
>
> From a personal perspective, I have cancelled all future travel plans and
> have requested that everyone I work with do the same. I am of course in
> healthcare. Please note that this is not official advise.
>
> James
>
> On Mon, Mar 9, 2020 at 5:48 AM Toni Ristovski 
> wrote:
>
> > Dear Gnangarra,
> >
> > On your last email in this thread you mentioned that you will discuss
> > situation with corona virus CoVid-19, regarding upcoming Wikimania. I
> know
> > that nobody have enough information, but following all the news and
> > following recent developments, could you please update us about this
> issue
> > on this thread.
> >
> > Thank you
> > Toni
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 1:15 PM Ciell Wikipedia <
> ciell.wikipe...@gmail.com
> > >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Thank you for your response!
> > >
> > > Ciell
> > >
> > > Op wo 26 feb. 2020 12:32 schreef Gnangarra :
> > >
> > > > Hi Ciell
> > > >
> > > > ESEAP team and the WMF are meeting later this week with discussion on
> > > this
> > > > very issue on the agenda. As it stands we have been following the
> > changes
> > > > and recommendations of many countries in relation to travel to
> Thailand
> > > and
> > > > Bangkok.  The WMF  team is also following developments, as you can
> > > imagine
> > > > its a very dynamic situation.  At this stage we are continuing the
> > > > scholarship application process because there isnt the time frame
> > > necessary
> > > > to delay while waiting for further developments occur so we can more
> > > > assured of the necessary measures that will need to be taken.
> > > >
> > > > For people who dont get scholarships, or are already planning to fund
> > > their
> > > > own travel there for once waiting is becoming an advantage as the
> cost
> > of
> > > > travel is dropping and there will be incentives to encourage people
> to
> > > > travel.   Anyone making bookings I recommend you obtain insurance
> that
> > > > covers you for all eventualities especially scenarios related to the
> > > virus.
> > > >
> > > > Community safety is at the absolute forefront of our plans and
> > concerns.
> > > >
> > > > Regards
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, 26 Feb 2020 at 19:05, Ciell Wikipedia <
> > ciell.wikipe...@gmail.com
> > > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Gnangarra,
> > > > >
> > > > > With the Corona virus spreading rapidly around the world: can you
> > tell
> > > me
> > > > > (us) something about the scenario for Wikimania when the virus
> would
> > > > still
> > > > > be heavily active in August?
> > > > > People might want to wait a bit longer before applying, or maybe
> want
> > > to
> > > > > know more about cancelling their travels after they have confirmed
> > the
> > > > > scholarship. Will this be possible?
> > > > >
> > > > > Vriendelijke groet,
> > > > > Ciell
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Op do 20 feb. 2020 om 21:46 schreef Gnangarra  >:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Wikimania is fast approaching, this year it'll be held in Bangkok
> > and
> > > > as
> > > > > > always the Wikimedia Foundation has a limited number of
> > opportunities
> > > > to
> > > > > > assist people to attend. There are two types of scholarships the
> > > first
> > > > > > being a full scholarship which covers, travel, accommodation, and
> > > > > > registration, the second a  partial scholarship that covers
> > > > accommodation
> > > > > > and registration.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This year for the first time East, South East 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Leadership change at Wikimedia Israel

2019-12-18 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
blic
> sectors. She speaks Hebrew, English, Portuguese and Spanish.
>
> We wish her good luck in her position, in filling Michal’s big shoes, and
> we are positive she continues to advance WMIL forward.
>
>
>
> *Itzik Edri*
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Journal of the Association for Information Science and Technology 68:  10.  
2460–2470.
  *   Dariusz Jemielniak (2016)  Wikimedia Movement Governance: The Limits of 
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Journal of Organizational Change Management 29:  3.  361-378.
  *   Dariusz Jemielniak, Eduard Aibar (2016)  Bridging the Gap Between 
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Journal of the Association for Information Science and Technology 67:  7.  
1773-1776.
  *   Dariusz Jemielniak (2016)  Breaking the Glass Ceiling on 
Wikipedia<http://www.crow.kozminski.edu.pl/papers/glass-ceiling.pdf> Feminist 
Review 113:  1.  103-108.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Serbia board members

2019-12-09 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
Dear Filip,

many thanks for your many years of excellent service - and great to see you're 
staying on the board! Congrats to the new President and the whole team :)

best,

dj "pundit"

On Mon, Dec 9, 2019 at 4:37 PM Filip Maljkovic 
mailto:dungod...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hello everyone,

Wikimedia Serbia held its General Assembly last night, when I formally
stepped down as the president of the chapter, after being in that
position for 6 years. Miroslav Loci (aka Mickey Mystique) was
unanimously elected as the new president of Wikimedia Serbia.

Marko Adam stepped down as a board member and Teodora Lukić is the newly
elected board member. Therefore, the board of Wikimedia Serbia now
consists of the following people:

1. Miroslav Loci - president
2. Đorđe Stakić - vice-president
3. Filip Maljković
4. Miljan Simonović
5. Bojana Satarić
6. Teodora Lukić

It has been a privilege to serve as the president of Wikimedia Serbia
and I'm certain that it will remain a stable and regionally strong
chapter in the following years.

Cheers,
Filip Maljković



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Journal of the Association for Information Science and Technology 68:  10.  
2460–2470.
  *   Dariusz Jemielniak (2016)  Wikimedia Movement Governance: The Limits of 
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Journal of Organizational Change Management 29:  3.  361-378.
  *   Dariusz Jemielniak, Eduard Aibar (2016)  Bridging the Gap Between 
Wikipedia and Academia<http://www.crow.kozminski.edu.pl/papers/bridging.pdf> 
Journal of the Association for Information Science and Technology 67:  7.  
1773-1776.
  *   Dariusz Jemielniak (2016)  Breaking the Glass Ceiling on 
Wikipedia<http://www.crow.kozminski.edu.pl/papers/glass-ceiling.pdf> Feminist 
Review 113:  1.  103-108.
  *   Tadeusz Chełkowski, Peter Gloor, Dariusz Jemielniak (2016)  Inequalities 
in Open Source Software Development: Analysis of Contributor’s Commits in 
Apache Software Foundation 
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Chief of Community Engagement to leave the Foundation

2019-11-16 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
brate with
the African community, our COO and Deputy General Counsel, Janeen Uzzell
and Tony Sebro, both attended.

The planned restructure and expansion of CE was intended to help us support
the community in achieving these goals. This includes the MTP’s focus on
building a thriving movement, increasing community health and diversity,
and growing among new languages, regions, and audiences. We set these goals
as part of our interpretation of the Movement Strategy, and they will
remain our focus for the medium term.

I still believe we need to make many of these changes, as well as be
prepared for further changes that may arise from the recommendations of the
Movement Strategy Working Groups. We see a future that could include
improved regional support, and expanded programmatic support for emerging
communities, whether those are new languages, geographies, or areas of
practice.

However, we are putting those plans on hold for the next few weeks, while
we focus is on supporting the existing teams through this transition. I
want us to make sure that goes well, before turning our attention to the
future. That said, I fully expect to resume work on how we expand our
support for these critical new areas in the first quarter of the new
calendar year.

== Final thoughts ==

I want to be absolutely clear that these changes are in no way an
indication that the Foundation is decreasing our commitment to support for
the movement. I hope you see how this offers an opportunity to do the exact
opposite—to set us up to support the movement in the best way we can.

For those with an interest in Wikimedia history, it’s worth noting that the
Foundation has taken many different shapes over the years. In 2014, teams
focused on community support were embedded in other departments. At the
time, we were much smaller, and our ability to truly engage with the full
breadth of the movement was more limited. In 2019, the community engagement
teams are better resourced, more global, and more representative of the
movement (although there’s always space for continued improvement).

We see this as the right moment to integrate the perspectives, experiences,
and skills of these teams across the Foundation, ensuring that support for
the movement is woven into all the Foundation’s work. As Wikimedians, we
know change is a constant—and it is through change that we often do our
best work, solve our hardest problems, and find our new path forward. Thank
you in advance as we take this next step to support the future of our
movement.

Sincerely,
Katherine

[1]
https://discuss-space.wmflabs.org/t/wikimedia-foundation-chief-of-community-engagement-to-leave-the-foundation/2194--

Katherine Maher (she/her)

Executive Director

Wikimedia Foundation <https://wikimediafoundation.org/>
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  *   Dariusz Jemielniak, Maciej Wilamowski (2017)  Cultural Diversity of 
Quality of Information on 
Wikipedias<http://crow.kozminski.edu.pl/papers/cultures%20of%20wikipedias.pdf> 
Journal of the Association for Information Science and Technology 68:  10.  
2460–2470.
  *   Dariusz Jemielniak (2016)  Wikimedia Movement Governance: The Limits of 
A-Hierarchical 
Organization<http://www.crow.kozminski.edu.pl/papers/wikimedia_governance.pdf> 
Journal of Organizational Change Management 29:  3.  361-378.
  *   Dariusz Jemielniak, Eduard Aibar (2016)  Bridging the Gap Between 
Wikipedia and Academia<http://www.crow.kozminski.edu.pl/papers/bridging.pdf> 
Journal of the Association for Information Science and Technology 67:  7.  
1773-1776.
  *   Dariusz Jemielniak (2016)  Breaking the Glass Ceiling on 
Wikipedia<http://www.crow.kozminski.edu.pl/papers/glass-ceiling.pdf> Feminist 
Review 113:  1.  103-108.
  *   Tadeusz Chełkowski, Peter Gloor, Dariusz Jemielniak (2016)  Inequalities 
in Open Source Software Development: Analysis of Contributor’s Commits in 
Apache Software Foundation 
Projects<http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article/asset?id=10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0152976.PDF>,
 PLoS ONE 11:  4.  e0152976.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement Strategy: Draft recommendations are here!

2019-08-24 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak


On Sat, Aug 24, 2019 at 6:00 PM Todd Allen 
mailto:toddmal...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Then, why'd we hear something so dismissive as this?

My intent was not dismissive, but factual (I basically made a point that a 
majority of our communities is not interested in administration, organization, 
structures, etc., so as to address an estimation error in the discussion).

5-10 thousand people are still a large and definitely worth listening to group.

best,

dj
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement Strategy: Draft recommendations are here!

2019-08-24 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
Well, "the intention of building an encyclopedia based on a neutral point of 
view achieved by verifiable information attributed to reliable independent 
sources and disseminated under a free licence" is close to many of us (me 
including). I think it is quite unlikely that recommendations challenging every 
single part of that intent, in the understanding of the majority of our 
community, will go through.

It is my honest belief that the WMF Board of Trustees does not intend to 
radically reduce the number of volunteers involved.

In any case, I suggest we wait and see how the recommendations shape up anyhow.

best,

dj

On Sat, Aug 24, 2019 at 5:22 PM Jeff Hawke 
mailto:geoffey.ha...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Dariusz

It seems very likely that the majority of the 60,000 contributors you mention 
are there with the intention of building an encyclopaedia based on a neutral 
point of view achieved by verifiable information attributed to reliable 
independent sources and disseminated under a free licence.  Since there are 
recommendations that would challenge every single part of that intent, it seems 
reasonable to assume that some non-trivial proportion of the volunteer 
workforce will not wish to continue to participate in a project that has so 
dramatically changed its entire raison d'etre.

Jeff



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  *   Dariusz Jemielniak, Maciej Wilamowski (2017)  Cultural Diversity of 
Quality of Information on 
Wikipedias<http://crow.kozminski.edu.pl/papers/cultures%20of%20wikipedias.pdf> 
Journal of the Association for Information Science and Technology 68:  10.  
2460–2470.
  *   Dariusz Jemielniak (2016)  Wikimedia Movement Governance: The Limits of 
A-Hierarchical 
Organization<http://www.crow.kozminski.edu.pl/papers/wikimedia_governance.pdf> 
Journal of Organizational Change Management 29:  3.  361-378.
  *   Dariusz Jemielniak, Eduard Aibar (2016)  Bridging the Gap Between 
Wikipedia and Academia<http://www.crow.kozminski.edu.pl/papers/bridging.pdf> 
Journal of the Association for Information Science and Technology 67:  7.  
1773-1776.
  *   Dariusz Jemielniak (2016)  Breaking the Glass Ceiling on 
Wikipedia<http://www.crow.kozminski.edu.pl/papers/glass-ceiling.pdf> Feminist 
Review 113:  1.  103-108.
  *   Tadeusz Chełkowski, Peter Gloor, Dariusz Jemielniak (2016)  Inequalities 
in Open Source Software Development: Analysis of Contributor’s Commits in 
Apache Software Foundation 
Projects<http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article/asset?id=10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0152976.PDF>,
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement Strategy: Draft recommendations are here!

2019-08-24 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak


On Sat, Aug 24, 2019 at 4:39 PM Jeff Hawke 
mailto:geoffey.ha...@gmail.com>> wrote:
the various projects.  I think my question could best have been phrased in
terms of the first meaning -- that is, does the WMF Board expect that after
these recommendations are enacted, and, as we may reasonably predict, a
large proportion of the current volunteers cease their invlvement, that
there will be a sufficient number of continuing and new volunteers to
sustain the projects in the way the WMF desires.  It seems odd that the
Board would not have even begun to consider this question, but it is of
course for them and not for us to decide.

just a side remark (in my personal capacity only): we have about 60 thousand 
active editors, which I think is more or less what the core community is formed 
of (mainly because readers do not have Wikimedian identity). For the vast 
majority of them our organizational discussions do not matter much at all. I 
don't think that the assumption that "the large proportions of the current 
volunteers will cease their involvement" makes any sense.

However, among those who are interested in organizational discussions  (I'd 
call them "activists", I'm unsure how many there are, probably between 5 and 10 
thousand, give or take) some will definitely be unhappy about the 
recommendations. Some may leave, as always happens when decisions are made.
We will surely have to discuss the overall picture and evaluate the pros and 
cons, but only once the recommendations are ready.

I have to say that I am really impressed at how dedicated most of the working 
groups have been so far. This process was huge and resulted in many challenges 
we did not expect. It is the first time in humankind history that a strategic 
conversation is carried out this way. Inevitably, there will be gaps, there 
will be shortcomings, but there will be also amazing ideas. How we get from the 
recommendations into actual applications will definitely be tricky, but I don't 
think it is fair to the tremendous effort of these wonderful and committed 
people to just assume that the result will be disastrous. On the contrary, I'm 
quite certain that we can use the recommendations to the movement's benefits, 
even if we do not literally follow every single one of them, but treat some as 
more general directives or ideas for later future.

best,

dj "pundit"

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] New board for Wikimedia Belgium + evaluation behaviour WMF

2019-06-17 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
Hi Paulo,


On Mon, Jun 17, 2019 at 4:54 PM Paulo Santos Perneta wrote:
" I'm referring to message from Caroline" - How have you jumped from Caroline 
wanting to further clarify something, to the conclusion that the OP was  
"pushing people who felt harassed or mistreated to step forward"?

I'm specifically referring to this sentence " I really do not appreciate having 
this particular incident discussed here and being forced to step up
like that."

Yes, she claims to have been "forced to step up", but were you able to find any 
evidence for that in the OP? Any accusation is automatically true?

I believe that the person who voluntarily identified herself as the one 
requesting T support is not randomly lying about that. I don't think it was 
an accusation, it was an expression of the personal urge to set the record 
straight.

Again, please note that I'm not referring to what did or did not happen a year 
ago. I've been trying to express my frustration with discussing personal 
details and stories on a public list. I've clearly failed.

best,

dj


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Re: [Wikimedia-l] New board for Wikimedia Belgium + evaluation behaviour WMF

2019-06-17 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak


On Mon, Jun 17, 2019 at 4:26 PM Michel Vuijlsteke 
mailto:wikipe...@zog.org>> wrote:
In other words, the best way to ban anyone from any event is to start a
rumour about them?

My understanding is that noone was banned from an event.

On Mon, Jun 17, 2019 at 4:28 PM Paulo Santos Perneta 
mailto:paulospern...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I've read and reread the WMBE message, and have not found anything near 
"pushing people who felt harassed or mistreated to step forward".

I'm referring to message from Caroline.


I also do not understand why you're addressing WMBE as "Romaine" (begging the 
question?).

Can you please clarify?

The message was sent from romaine.w...@gmail.com 
account and I assumed that addressing the sender as "Romaine" is appropriate.

best,

dj
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] New board for Wikimedia Belgium + evaluation behaviour WMF

2019-06-17 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
whoa!

pushing people who felt harassed or mistreated to step forward is not ok at 
all. I do not honestly understand why the story from nearly a year ago has 
emerged, with personal details.

It is not unusual for people who caused distress to not have done it 
intentionally, and to genuinely believe they did nothing wrong. It is 
nevertheless the role of the safety team to react to any reports they receive.

Romaine, you're describing "a rumor that WMBE's treasurer was planning to 
attack that grants person" and are surprised that the safety team acted upon 
this rumor. I hope it is clear that they did exactly what they should have 
done. If there are rumors about physical violence, unbelievable as they may 
seem, the bottom line common sense is to approach the alleged would-be attacker 
and request politely that they stay away, to deescalate even just a potentially 
tense situation.

I personally believe this fork of the discussion threat deserves a quick EOT 
and salting.

Dariusz "pundit" (replying in my absolutely personal, and hastily expressed 
opinion)





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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Be the change you want to see (was: WMF commitment for a Wikimedia projects archive)

2019-05-16 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
The thing is, we have a number of tools with a lot of cultural/behavioral 
as.well as.technological heritage.

Yes, it would be nice to have a stable one point of entry communication. 
Unfortunately, even investing a lot in tech does not warrant a success.

People tend to the most co..on denominator, this is why texting is still around.

But I agree that a bigger discussion about decision making and discussing 
online is needed. This is exactly a part of our strategic exercise and I hope 
the group will address the issue.

Best,

Dariusz

On Thu, 16 May 2019, 08:34 Mister Thrapostibongles, 
mailto:thrapostibong...@gmail.com>> wrote:
James

This seems inside-out.  Rather than WMF staff trying to guess which of the
tens of thousands of existing discussions might be of relevance, why not
simply tell the community the locations of the pages or other channels
which you propose to use to engage them.

Thrapostibongles

On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 9:31 PM James Hare 
mailto:jh...@wikimedia.org>> wrote:

> On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 6:26 AM Yaroslav Blanter 
> mailto:ymb...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> > This is of course fine, and everybody is free to participate or not to
> participate on this mailing list, but, generally speaking, does WMF have
> any channels to listen to the volunteers working on the project?
>
> I am a product manager at the Wikimedia Foundation. What this means, in the
> broadest of terms, is that I need to know what people want/need in order to
> do my job “correctly,” for some definition of “correct.” Of course, what
> constitutes a “correct” decision on my part is something not everyone will
> agree on and that’s fine. But I need to gather information as part of this
> work.
>
> The problem is that there is no “one” place to go. To give you an idea of
> the magnitude of the problem, there are over 900 wikis.  Hundreds of those
> wikis comprise Wikipedia, a project with a cumulative total of 50,000,000
> articles. Each one of those articles either has a talk page or could
> theoretically get one as soon as someone makes the first post. So, just
> starting with Wikipedia articles, we have over 50,000,000 potential or
> existing discussion venues, with very little coordination or
> cross-organization between these venues, and this doesn’t even include
> individual user talk pages or really, really specific talk pages like
> “Wikipedia talk:Administrators’ noticeboard/Incidents” which is... very
> precisely, a venue to discuss the administration of that specific
> noticeboard (but not to, itself, host noticeboard-like posts).[0]
>
> It is very convenient and easy to create a talk page because talk pages are
> a very central paradigm to the MediaWiki software (going back to 2002?
> 2003?) and so they are built into the overall website experience in a way
> that things that were tacked on way later, simply are not. But it is a poor
> interface that doesn’t scale across more than several people or a few
> concurrent conversations. But if Wikipedia’s fundamental sidebar chat
> system fails to support more than occasional chatter, how exactly is any of
> this supposed to work?
>
> There are two ways to go from here: (a) fix the original problem or (b)
> develop workarounds. If you were around back in 2013 or so you may recall a
> project called “Flow” that is now called “Structured Discussions.” I can’t
> speak officially to any of it because it was before my time and many of the
> staff involved no longer work here. And I am actually very hesitant to
> bring it up at all, much less by name, because of the taboo that developed
> around it. A retrospective on this project is out-of-scope for this post,
> but if you need a short and convenient answer: it didn’t work, and it
> generally made it impossible for the Wikimedia Foundation to even broach
> the subject for the following several years. (There is starting to be work
> on this again, and this time, it seems to be going at a more deliberate
> pace, but I will defer to the staff working on this.)
>
> Let’s talk about workarounds. We have workarounds that make the talk pages
> themselves more useful (talk page archiving comes to mind[1]), and we also
> have workarounds that consist of outsourcing the issue entirely, whether it
> be solutions we host ourselves (mailing lists, Discourse) or proprietary
> platforms that happen to be convenient for large segments of our
> communities. There are different advantages and disadvantages to each
> solution, which has only resulted in the proliferation of solutions.
>
> Let’s back up. On the wikis themselves there are millions of discussion
> venues; there are different software interventions that work or don’t work,
> depending on the situation; and we are now in a position where we have so
> many places to hold conversations it becomes an extraordinary use of time
> (and several people’s full time jobs) to try to understand the
> extraordinarily complex social interactions that take place in the hundreds
> of 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Be the change you want to see (was: WMF commitment for a Wikimedia projects archive)

2019-05-15 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
Likewise. I often refrain from commenting when I think it is more collaborative 
and peaceful to do so, though.

dj "pundit"

On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 6:00 PM James Heilman 
mailto:jmh...@gmail.com>> wrote:
As I trustee, I read and generally find this mailing list useful. Per the
comments around movement hierarchy, we have many leaders of our movement on
this list. While the WMF trustees and senior staff may be the official
leaders of the WMF we do not consider ourselves "the" leaders of the
community. We are simple a few of the many leaders within this movement.

Best
James

On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 9:24 AM Mister Thrapostibongles <
thrapostibong...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Asaf,
>
> Perhaps there is a mismatch of expectations here.  The trustees and the
> senior staff of the WMF are the leaders of the movement and we may presume
> that they know how to do their job.  It is for them to decide on the way
> they wish to engage with the community they lead, and they have many ways
> of doing so.  Indeed, there is an elaborate strategy consultation taking
> place at many levels right now.  One should not confuse a well-thought-out
> process for community engagement  with one particular vehicle for
> engagement, such as this mailing list.  If seniot staff find that reading,
> or responding to, this mailing list does not constitute the most effective
> means for them to achieve their leadership goals, then why should anyone
> insist that they use it, and thereby spend their valuable time being less
> effective in their leadership roles?
>
> Thrapostibongles
>
> On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 2:17 AM Asaf Bartov 
> mailto:asaf.bar...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> > Speaking as a (very) longtime member of this mailing list, and one who is
> > carefully observing it for a few years now as a volunteer list
> > co-administrator:
> >
> > On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 3:56 AM Joseph Seddon 
> > mailto:jsed...@wikimedia.org>>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I, like many others, wish to see this list become a crucible of good
> > > suggestions, healthy and critical debate about ideas and as a sound
> > > mechanism for oversight and account . A huge amount of staff time and
> > > movement resources is taken up by the consumption of its content. And
> yet
> > > it remains the greatest shame that much of the best most worthwhile
> > > constructive discussions have moved to platforms like Facebook because
> > this
> > > list is viewed as hosting such an unhealthy atmosphere when emails are
> > > written with such overt passive aggression.
> > >
> > > I call it out because if we want people to participate on this list,
> the
> > > unhealthy way in which this list gets treated by some of its most
> active
> > > participants needs to be dealt with. Otherwise valid points will not
> get
> > > acknowledged or answered.
> > >
> >
> > I am not sure the causality here runs in the direction you describe.
> It's
> > true that this list had some aggressive, even vulgar participants in the
> > past, and that some senior staff members, as well as board members, have
> > left the list in protest.  Personally, I think that was a mistake on
> their
> > part: to improve the list atmosphere, you model good behavior yourself,
> and
> > you call upon the rest of the list -- the "silent majority" -- to call
> out
> > bad behavior and enforce some participation standards (as, indeed, I and
> my
> > co-moderators have been doing since we took over).
> >
> > By senior people's departing this list, and no longer requiring staff to
> be
> > on this list, a strong signal was sent that this is not a venue crucial
> to
> > listen to, and that, coupled with the decreasing frequency of WMF
> responses
> > to legitimate volunteer inquiries and suggestions, had a *powerful*
> > chilling effect on the willingness of most volunteers to engage here.
> > Especially when, as you say, they were able to get better engagement on
> > Facebook and other channels, despite the serious shortcomings of
> > accountability on those channels (immutable archiving, searchability,
> > access to anonymous volunteers, etc.)
> >
> > Yes, this list has also seen some pseudonymous critics whose questions
> may
> > have been inconvenient or troublesome to address.  Yet I think the
> > accountable thing to do would have been to respond, however briefly, to
> > prevent the sealioning and sanctimonious posts that filled the list --
> and,
> > I am sure, greatly annoyed and demotivated many subscribers.  Even a
> > response stating WMF chooses not to respond to a certain question, or not
> > to dig up certain data, would have been better than the stony silence
> that
> > has become the all-too-common stance for WMF on this list.
> >
> > As you know, I also work for WMF (though I am writing this in my
> volunteer
> > capacity, and out of my care for the well-being of this list).  While I
> > have never shied away from responding on this list, I have on occasion
> been
> > scolded 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [wikicite-discuss] Leaving the Wikimedia Foundation, staying on the wikis

2019-02-14 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
Dario,

It has been amazing to watch you develop research at the Foundation, and I mean 
it both as a researcher myself, and a Wikimedian!

DJ "pundit"

On Thu, Feb 14, 2019, 14:52 Amir Sarabadani 
mailto:ladsgr...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Dario, I will never forget all of your help when I started working on AI
projects in Wikimedia. Thank you!
Hope to see you soon in one of conferences and Good luck in your new job!

Best

On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 2:00 AM Daniel Mietchen via Wikimedia-l <
wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org> wrote:

> Hi Dario and Leila,
> it's been a pleasure collaborating with you in the past, and I hope
> this will continue despite the changes in your roles.
> Best,
> Daniel
>
> On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 11:13 PM Yaroslav Blanter 
> mailto:ymb...@gmail.com>>
> wrote:
> >
> > Dario, thanks for your effort. It was a pleasure working with you, and I
> am
> > also happy that you will stay around as a volunteer. My congratulations
> to
> > Leila. Whereas at this point I am rather skeptical and sometimes vocal
> > about WMF in general, I have a tremendous respect for both of you.
> >
> > Cheers
> > Yaroslav
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 11:05 PM Samuel Klein 
> > mailto:meta...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> > > Dario -- what news!  And how close that seems to your recent pushing
> of us
> > > all.
> > > How lucky the projects have been to have you building a research
> > > constellation, for these many years.
> > >
> > > Leila, congrats + warm wishes in your new role.
> > >
> > > With wikilove and taxonometrics,
> > > SJ
> > >
> > > On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 4:56 PM Dario Taraborelli <
> > > dtarabore...@wikimedia.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hey all,
> > > >
> > > > I've got some personal news to share.
> > > >
> > > > After 8 years with Wikimedia, I have decided to leave the Foundation
> to
> > > > take up a new role focused on open science. This has been a difficult
> > > > decision but an opportunity arose and I am excited to be moving on
> to an
> > > > area that’s been so close to my heart for years.
> > > >
> > > > Serving the movement as part of the Research team at WMF has been,
> and
> > > > will definitely be, the most important gig in my life. I leave a
> team of
> > > > ridiculously talented and fun people that I can’t possibly imagine
> not
> > > > spending all of my days with, as well many collaborators and friends
> in
> > > the
> > > > community who have I worked alongside. I am proud and thankful to
> have
> > > been
> > > > part of this journey with you all. With my departure, Leila Zia is
> taking
> > > > the lead of Research at WMF, and you all couldn't be in better hands.
> > > >
> > > > In March, I’ll be joining CZI Science—a philanthropy based in the Bay
> > > > Area—to help build their portfolio of open science programs and
> > > technology.
> > > > I'll continue to be an ally on the same fights in my new role.
> > > >
> > > > Other than that, I look forward to returning to full volunteer mode.
> I
> > > > started editing English Wikipedia in 2004, working on bloody
> chapters in
> > > > the history of London <
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smithfield,_London>;
> > > hypothetical
> > > > astronomy ; unsung heroes
> > > > among women in science ;
> and
> > > > of course natural
> > > > ,
> technical
> > > >  and
> > > political
> > > > disasters
> > > > <
> > >
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_interference_in_the_2016_United_States_elections
> > > >.
> > > > I’ve also developed an embarrassing addiction to Wikidata, and you’ll
> > > > continue seeing me around hacking those instances of Q16521
> > > >  for a little while.
> > > >
> > > > I hope our paths cross once again in the future.
> > > >
> > > > Best,
> > > >
> > > > Dario
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > >
> > > > *Dario Taraborelli  *Director, Head of Research, Wikimedia Foundation
> > > > research.wikimedia.org • 
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> > > > 
> > > >
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia in an abstract language

2018-11-13 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
an interesting concept indeed!

dj

On Tue, Nov 13, 2018 at 5:36 PM Denny Vrandečić 
mailto:vrande...@gmail.com>> wrote:
The extended whitepaper that was presented at the DL workshop is now
available here:

http://simia.net/download/abstractwikipedia_whitepaper.pdf

Still not a proper scientific paper (no references, notv situated in
related work), but going into a bit more detail on the ideas on the first
paper published previously.

On Sat, Sep 29, 2018, 11:32 Denny Vrandečić 
mailto:vrande...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Semantic Web languages allow to express ontologies and knowledge bases in
> a way meant to be particularly amenable to the Web. Ontologies formalize
> the shared understanding of a domain. But the most expressive and
> widespread languages that we know of are human natural languages, and the
> largest knowledge base we have is the wealth of text written in human
> languages.
>
> We looks for a path to bridge the gap between knowledge representation
> languages such as OWL and human natural languages such as English. We
> propose a project to simultaneously expose that gap, allow to collaborate
> on closing it, make progress widely visible, and is highly attractive and
> valuable in its own right: a Wikipedia written in an abstract language to
> be rendered into any natural language on request. This would make current
> Wikipedia editors about 100x more productive, and increase the content of
> Wikipedia by 10x. For billions of users this will unlock knowledge they
> currently do not have access to.
>
> My first talk on this topic will be on October 10, 2018, 16:45-17:00, at
> the Asilomar in Monterey, CA during the Blue Sky track of ISWC. My second,
> longer talk on the topic will be at the DL workshop in Tempe, AZ, October
> 27-29. Comments are very welcome as I prepare the slides and the talk.
>
> Link to the paper: http://simia.net/download/abstractwikipedia.pdf
>
> Cheers,
> Denny
>
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Ostatnie artykuły:

  *   Dariusz Jemielniak, Maciej Wilamowski (2017)  Cultural Diversity of 
Quality of Information on 
Wikipedias<http://crow.kozminski.edu.pl/papers/cultures%20of%20wikipedias.pdf> 
Journal of the Association for Information Science and Technology 68:  10.  
2460–2470.
  *   Dariusz Jemielniak (2016)  Wikimedia Movement Governance: The Limits of 
A-Hierarchical 
Organization<http://www.crow.kozminski.edu.pl/papers/wikimedia_governance.pdf> 
Journal of Organizational Change Management 29:  3.  361-378.
  *   Dariusz Jemielniak, Eduard Aibar (2016)  Bridging the Gap Between 
Wikipedia and Academia<http://www.crow.kozminski.edu.pl/papers/bridging.pdf> 
Journal of the Association for Information Science and Technology 67:  7.  
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  *   Dariusz Jemielniak (2016)  Breaking the Glass Ceiling on 
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in Open Source Software Development: Analysis of Contributor’s Commits in 
Apache Software Foundation 
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Celebrating Wikimania 2018 online

2018-07-23 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
Hi Romaine,

What a nice idea! Thanks!

Dj "pundit"

On Mon, Jul 23, 2018, 20:25 Romaine Wiki  wrote:

>  The official part of Wikimania is over, this does not prevent ourselves
> from celebrating Africa's first Wikimania online, in more particular:
> writing Wikipedia articles.
>
> Africa is under represented in Wikipedia, by writing about it we both
> celebrate our great conference as well as we work on solving the Africagap
>
> With some Dutchies we started the idea of having a list of like 10-20
> articles of subjects from Cape Town and surrounding area. For example:
>
>
> Well-known park in Cape Town:
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Company%27s_Garden
>
> The often referred to Dassie:
> https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q323847
>
> Input needed!
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Craig Franklin passed away

2018-04-16 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
This is deeply saddening. Craig was lively, funny and smart. I will miss
him.

Dj

On Mon, Apr 16, 2018, 19:57 Lodewijk  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Through various other channels I learned the unfortunate news that Craig
> Franklin (Lankiveil) has recently passed away. He was a board member
> (2011-2015) and president (2013) at Wikimedia Australia, longtime English
> Wikipedian and admin, and until this month he was member of the Ombudsman
> Commission.
>
> Craig was a lively participant in many of our meetings/conferences, and it
> was always a joy to see him enter a discussion.
>
> Condoleances are being collected on his user talk page:
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Lankiveil
>
> Best regards,
>
> Lodewijk
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Time to simplify the Bureaucracy ?

2018-03-07 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
hi Zubin,

thanks for being a newcomer to Wikimedia, and also for your interest in the
issue of bureaucracy. I think you're right that it is something worth
analyzing. A chapter of my "Common Knowledge? An Ethnography of Wikipedia"
(2014, Stanford University Press) was dedicated to studying the issue. You
can peruse it, also to see other references on the topic. I am not aware of
strong quantitative studies of the problem though, as it is quite difficult
to account for all the factors, in different projects, etc.

best,

dj "pundit"


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   Association for Information Science and Technology* 67:  7.  1773-1776.
   - Dariusz Jemielniak (2016)  Breaking the Glass Ceiling on Wikipedia
   <http://www.crow.kozminski.edu.pl/papers/glass-ceiling.pdf> *Feminist
   Review *113:  1.  103-108.
   - Tadeusz Chełkowski, Peter Gloor, Dariusz Jemielniak (2016)  Inequalities
   in Open Source Software Development: Analysis of Contributor’s Commits in
   Apache Software Foundation Projects
   
<http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article/asset?id=10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0152976.PDF>
   , *PLoS ONE* 11:  4.  e0152976.


On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 2:42 PM, Zubin JAIN <jain16...@gapps.uwcsea.edu.sg>
wrote:

> Hello,
> As a rare newcomer to the Wikimedia project, I've been thinking of some of
> the factors that seem to discourage me from contributing and one of the
> primary ones seem to be the fact that the way the administration is
> organized and rules enforced is often vague and unclear. The definition and
> the method of collection of the vague idea of "Consensus" aren't easily
> found and take a lot of digging to get out.
>
> A lot of the guideline is often mixed with philosophical rants that often
> seem to contradict each other and has grown in size to the point that it's
> unreasonable for any newcomer to have read through it all. The project
> designed to work on consensus and community often seems unresponsive and
> automated as anarchic communication structure impedes effective
> communication by forcing users to learn an obscure markup language just to
> communicate.
>
> I'm wondering if there have been any whitepapers on addressing these
> problems especialy the ones about bureaucracy, reading through the news I
> remember a lot of hay being made about a decline in Wikipedia editor from a
> few years back but that seems ot have faded. Is there any hard data on the
> future trajectory of the project?
>
> --
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] About Facebook Linked in some of Wikimedia projects

2018-02-28 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
My personal preference is to NOT link to Facebook. I think they use the
energy of people enough already.

However, I also think it is up to local communities to decide what works
for them best, there is no "one size fits all" here, IMHO

best,

DJ "pundit"

On Feb 28, 2018 20:06, "Jimmy Wales"  wrote:

Speaking only for myself, not as a member of the board, I don't know of
any legal or other reason why this should not be done.  I think we
should be very careful about links or appearance of endorsement
especially on article pages, but outreach to people in the world should
take place wherever we find a willing and useful audience.



On 2/28/18 6:29 AM, Minata Hatsune wrote:
> I know it based on local consensus, but what I mean here is: those
> consensus valid for WMF Term of Use and others policies or not? Because it
> same with Wikipedia have linked with 3rd party, which is a commerical
> website.
>
> Trần Nguyễn Minh Huy
> Vietnamese Wikimedian
>
> 2018-02-28 18:52 GMT+09:00 James Heilman :
>
>> IMO this is based on local community consensus. It is not a global
policy.
>>
>> James
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 9:14 AM, Minata Hatsune 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello, I have a question: is it legal and valid for Wikipedia
communities
>>> put promotion links to their Facebook pages on public space as Main Page
>> or
>>> Sitenotice?
>>>
>>> I see many of Wikimedia projects doing this, as Indonesia Wikipedia,
>> Arabic
>>> Wikipedia, etc... Their Facebooks page also have blue checkmark of
>> Facebook
>>> as verified.
>>>
>>> All what I concern is: Facebook is a commerical website, we put a link
as
>>> "official" to them, will it same with Wikipedia biased for Facebook and
>>> violated the NPOV policy? And in finally: is it OK if other projects can
>> do
>>> that? Vietnamese Wikipedia also have a discussion about sitenotice
>>> promotion to Facebook at <
>>> https://vi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Th%E1%BA%A3o_lu%E1%
>>> BA%ADn/Qu%E1%BA%A3ng_b%C3%A1_trang_Facebook_%22Wikipedia_
>>> ti%E1%BA%BFng_Vi%E1%BB%87t%22
 . If this is OK, I think we have no reason to reject it.
>>>
>>> Thank you!
>>>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Heat Maps

2017-12-29 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
That'd be pretty cool.

On Dec 29, 2017 17:44, "James Heilman"  wrote:

> Also all the underlying software is also under an open license,
> specifically the MIT license and can be found on Github per
>
> https://ourworldindata.org/about/
>
> James
>
> On Fri, Dec 29, 2017 at 9:37 AM, James Heilman  wrote:
>
> > It is all under a CC BY SA 4.0 license.
> >
> > You can also download all the data as a csv file.
> >
> > James
> >
> > On Fri, Dec 29, 2017 at 9:30 AM, Yuri Astrakhan  >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> James, which open license? There is a request pending to allow non cc0
> >> licensed data in commons, but still waiting for legal.
> >>
> >> https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T178210
> >>
> >> On Fri, Dec 29, 2017, 11:22 James Heilman  wrote:
> >>
> >> > Our World in Data has created 100s of heat maps with scroll bars for
> >> > adjusting the year. The maps as well as the underlying data is under
> an
> >> > open license.
> >> >
> >> > Example include these https://ourworldindata.org/obesity/
> >> >
> >> > When one puts their cursor over the country in question they get the
> >> > underlying data and the country is highlighted. What would be required
> >> for
> >> > use to support this sort of technology within Wikipedia?
> >> >
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Board approval of FDC recommendation 2017-2018- Round 1

2017-12-22 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
correction of the link:
https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Resolution:Board_approval_of_FDC_recommendation_(2017-18,_Round_1)

(Thanks Frans and Anders for spotting and reaching out!).

dj


On Fri, Dec 22, 2017 at 11:51 AM, Dariusz Jemielniak <dar...@alk.edu.pl>
wrote:

> Dear All,
>
> On behalf of the Board of Trustees of the Wikimedia Foundation, I write to
> share the news that we have approved [1] the full slate of the FDC’s Round
> 1 2017-2018 recommendations [2] for the Annual Plan Grants. In this round,
> 9 organizations will be receiving a total of
> roughly US$2,260,000. Grants are made in local currency, so the USD figure
> is approximate.
>
> We want to thank the Funds Dissemination Committee members and staff for
> the time and effort they have put into this process, as well as all members
> of the community who have participated in this round of analysis and
> deliberations.
>
> Thank you to all the organizations involved in this round, and for the
> work that the volunteers and staff of these organizations have put in to
> further our mission.
>
> We are glad to witness that our movement’s efforts to foster thoughtful
> planning show in the annual plans of the participating organizations and
> are looking forward to the next round of applications in April 2018.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Dariusz Jemielniak ("pundit"), on behalf of the Wikimedia Foundation Board
> of Trustees
>
>
> [1] https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Resolution:Board_approval_of_FDC_
> recommendation_(2016-17,_Round_1)
>
> [2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:APG/FDC_
> recommendations/2017-2018_Round_1
>
>
>
>
>
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[Wikimedia-l] Board approval of FDC recommendation 2017-2018- Round 1

2017-12-22 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
Dear All,

On behalf of the Board of Trustees of the Wikimedia Foundation, I write to
share the news that we have approved [1] the full slate of the FDC’s Round
1 2017-2018 recommendations [2] for the Annual Plan Grants. In this round,
9 organizations will be receiving a total of
roughly US$2,260,000. Grants are made in local currency, so the USD figure
is approximate.

We want to thank the Funds Dissemination Committee members and staff for
the time and effort they have put into this process, as well as all members
of the community who have participated in this round of analysis and
deliberations.

Thank you to all the organizations involved in this round, and for the work
that the volunteers and staff of these organizations have put in to further
our mission.

We are glad to witness that our movement’s efforts to foster thoughtful
planning show in the annual plans of the participating organizations and
are looking forward to the next round of applications in April 2018.

Sincerely,

Dariusz Jemielniak ("pundit"), on behalf of the Wikimedia Foundation Board
of Trustees


[1]
https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Resolution:Board_approval_of_FDC_recommendation_(2016-17,_Round_1)

[2]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:APG/FDC_recommendations/2017-2018_Round_1








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   Review *113:  1.  103-108.
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   Apache Software Foundation Projects
   
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Experimental onion service for all Wikimedia projects set up by Alec Muffett

2017-11-24 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
Well, what we could do just as well is trying to load normally, but when it
fails immediately load through Orbot. The delays should be minimal most of
the time, and the crucial part is that
a) users don't have to do anything, install other apps, change the settings
- it just works,
b) users won't be held responsible for downloading a special app or making
a choice to use Tor.

Dj

On Nov 24, 2017 18:38, "Tilman Bayer" <tba...@wikimedia.org> wrote:

> I think this is unlikely to happen, because of the performance degradation
> (access via Tor will always be slower, which user studies
> <http://www.mdpi.com/1999-5903/4/2/488/htm> have shown to be a
> significant usability issue in the past). But as an option or fallback or
> separate app it might be a great idea; there is a Phabricator task at
> https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T163747
>
> On Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 12:35 AM, Dariusz Jemielniak <dar...@alk.edu.pl>
> wrote:
>
>> Excellent! Still, as I argued before, I believe that a solution we could
>> use is defaulting to Tor channeling in our mobile app. Facebook offers it
>> as an option in partnership with Orbot - I believe we should do the same,
>> but default to it (so that people cannot be held responsible for making a
>> choice). For unlogged Wikipedia reading this solution is practically
>> transparent for users.
>>
>> I've recently contacted the WMF with Orbot people and hope that at least
>> we
>> can evaluate this approach as a possibility.
>>
>> best,
>>
>> Dariusz Jemielniak "pundit"
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 2:11 AM, Cristian Consonni <crist...@balist.es>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > Some months ago, the idea of setting up an onion service for Wikimedia
>> > projects was discussed on this list[1] and as a proposal in IdeaLab on
>> > Meta[2].
>> >
>> > Today, Alec Muffett announced on Twitter[3] that he created «as an
>> > experiment» a series of read-only mirrors of all the Wikimedia projects.
>> > He will be running them for some time.
>> >
>> > The service is reachable with a Tor-enabled browser at the following
>> > address:
>> > https://www.qgssno7jk2xcr2sj.onion/
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > If you want to try out the service, first visit the addresses listed in
>> > this page and add exceptions for the SSL certificates:
>> > https://gist.github.com/alecmuffett/3da587fde6aef90ba3e49e8858fafdae
>> >
>> > (this is one of the limits of having a non-official service)
>> >
>> > Alec Muffett is the author of the Enterprise Onion Toolkit (EOTK)[4], a
>> > FLOSS project which "does for Onions what LetsEncrypt does for SSL",
>> > that is providing a simple way to transform websites in Onion services
>> > (which are accessible only and contained within the Tor network). Alec
>> > used EOTK for creating this demo. He was also behind the onion service
>> > for Facebook[5].
>> >
>> > IMO this service, even with its current limitations, is quite awesome
>> > and I am very happy to see it. It is exactly the kind of proof of
>> > concept that I wanted to create with my proposal. So now there's that.
>> >
>> > Enjoy!
>> >
>> > Cristian
>> >
>> > [1]: https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2017-
>> > June/087708.html
>> > [2]:
>> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IdeaLab/A_Tor_
>> > Onion_Service_for_Wikipedia
>> > [3]:https://twitter.com/AlecMuffett/status/933739816038076419
>> > [4]: https://github.com/alecmuffett/eotk
>> > [5]:
>> > https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/
>> > 10/facebook-offers-hidden-service-to-tor-users/
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Experimental onion service for all Wikimedia projects set up by Alec Muffett

2017-11-24 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
Excellent! Still, as I argued before, I believe that a solution we could
use is defaulting to Tor channeling in our mobile app. Facebook offers it
as an option in partnership with Orbot - I believe we should do the same,
but default to it (so that people cannot be held responsible for making a
choice). For unlogged Wikipedia reading this solution is practically
transparent for users.

I've recently contacted the WMF with Orbot people and hope that at least we
can evaluate this approach as a possibility.

best,

Dariusz Jemielniak "pundit"



On Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 2:11 AM, Cristian Consonni <crist...@balist.es>
wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Some months ago, the idea of setting up an onion service for Wikimedia
> projects was discussed on this list[1] and as a proposal in IdeaLab on
> Meta[2].
>
> Today, Alec Muffett announced on Twitter[3] that he created «as an
> experiment» a series of read-only mirrors of all the Wikimedia projects.
> He will be running them for some time.
>
> The service is reachable with a Tor-enabled browser at the following
> address:
> https://www.qgssno7jk2xcr2sj.onion/
>
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> If you want to try out the service, first visit the addresses listed in
> this page and add exceptions for the SSL certificates:
> https://gist.github.com/alecmuffett/3da587fde6aef90ba3e49e8858fafdae
>
> (this is one of the limits of having a non-official service)
>
> Alec Muffett is the author of the Enterprise Onion Toolkit (EOTK)[4], a
> FLOSS project which "does for Onions what LetsEncrypt does for SSL",
> that is providing a simple way to transform websites in Onion services
> (which are accessible only and contained within the Tor network). Alec
> used EOTK for creating this demo. He was also behind the onion service
> for Facebook[5].
>
> IMO this service, even with its current limitations, is quite awesome
> and I am very happy to see it. It is exactly the kind of proof of
> concept that I wanted to create with my proposal. So now there's that.
>
> Enjoy!
>
> Cristian
>
> [1]: https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2017-
> June/087708.html
> [2]:
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IdeaLab/A_Tor_
> Onion_Service_for_Wikipedia
> [3]:https://twitter.com/AlecMuffett/status/933739816038076419
> [4]: https://github.com/alecmuffett/eotk
> [5]:
> https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/
> 10/facebook-offers-hidden-service-to-tor-users/
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   Association for Information Science and Technology* 67:  7.  1773-1776.
   - Dariusz Jemielniak (2016)  Breaking the Glass Ceiling on Wikipedia
   <http://www.crow.kozminski.edu.pl/papers/glass-ceiling.pdf> *Feminist
   Review *113:  1.  103-108.
   - Tadeusz Chełkowski, Peter Gloor, Dariusz Jemielniak (2016)  Inequalities
   in Open Source Software Development: Analysis of Contributor’s Commits in
   Apache Software Foundation Projects
   
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] What to do when the WMF is stingy with the community?

2017-06-28 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
hi David,


On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 7:52 PM, David Cuenca Tudela 
wrote:

> Recently the review for the Wikidata conference grant application has
> started, and I have complained that the funds allocated are insuficient to
> cover the needs of the grants. The requested amount for the grants was
> 36,000 EUR, but in my opinion that should be at least 72,000 EUR.
>

You realize that this is pretty much what an annual budget of a small
Wikimedia chapter is, right?


> I have the feeling that the WMF is sitting on a pile of money just giving
> breadcrumbs to the community, and the community has to suffer in silence
> about this stinginess.
>

The WMF, just as the movement, has a responsibility to our donors, to spend
the money wisely and frugally. We surely do not always do so, but we try.



> Why are there two standards? One standard seems to be that everything that
>
the WMF needs to allocate can go unsupervised, whereas another standard
> seems to apply to community activities where every penny is so supervised
> that it becomes a pain in the ass to organize anything big.
>

The WMF's spending is actually reviewed and commented on by the community
and the FDC.



> The Wikidata Conference needs more funds to be a success and I think that
> in the grand scheme of things, the money requested is just peanuts compared
> to the money that the WMF has collected from donors.
>

I believe we have a responsibility to treat our donor's contributions with
respect and care. I don't think that 70k Euro is peanuts, and rarely you
will find any foundation or NGO considering such an amount to be
insignificant.

 best,

dariusz
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[Wikimedia-l] Board approval of FDC recommendation 2016-2017- Round 2

2017-06-28 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
Dear members of the Wikimedia community,

On behalf of the Board of Trustees of the Wikimedia Foundation, I write to
confirm that the board has approved [1] the full slate of the FDC’s Round 2
2016-2017 recommendations [2] for the Annual Plan Grants. We also have
taken good note of the FDC recommendations concerning the Wikimedia
Foundation's annual plan. In this round, 4 organizations will be receiving
a total of roughly US $1,605,000. Grants are made in local currency, so the
USD figure is approximate.

One entity appealed to the Board about the recommendations of the FDC. The
Board has carefully considered the appeal. After considering all of the
information, the Board decided not to override the recommendations of the
FDC, and separately  responded to the appeal in more depth.[3]

The Board wants to thank the Funds Dissemination Committee members and
staff for the time and effort they have put into this process, as well as
all members of the community who have participated in this round of review,
analysis and deliberations. We appreciate that so many Wikimedians have
contributed to this participatory process, and we value those efforts.

Thank you to all the organizations who submitted proposals in this round,
and for the work that the volunteers and staff of these organizations have
put in to further our movement’s mission.

Volunteers are at the heart of the Funds Dissemination Committee. We are
lucky to have a committee comprised of nine dedicated community members who
give a lot of their time and energy into making this funding program a
reality. We thank you all for your work this year.

Five of the members of the FDC have terms that have ended this year. I want
to thank Itzik Edri (User:Itzike) and Michael Peel (User:Mike Peel) for
their years of service to this  committee and congratulate (Michał
Buczyński (User:Aegis Maelstrom), Lorenzo Losa (User:Laurentius),  and Liam
Wyatt (User:Wittylama) for their reelection. I also welcome back Osmar
Valdebenito to the FDC and welcome Katherine Bavage as a first timer on the
FDC and congratulate them both for being elected. The Board is looking
forward to working with you.


Sincerely,

Dariusz Jemielniak (“pundit”), on behalf of the WMF Board of Trustees


[1]
https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Resolution:Board_approval_of_FDC_recommendation_(2016-17,_Round_2)

[2]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:APG/FDC_recommendations/2016-2017_round_2

[3]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:APG/Appeals_to_the_Board_on_the_recommendations_of_the_FDC
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Advisory Board of the Wikimedia Foundation

2017-06-27 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
I believe that the AB should have something to propose and say there, so
until it is I am not going to put any proposals forward in this respect.

Best

On Jun 27, 2017 4:39 PM, "Rogol Domedonfors" <domedonf...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Are those channels proposed as part of the paper you brought to the BGC on
> the 13th April, then?  Or are you ready to discuss them now?  Or will the
> possibility of establishing them be postponed until some time after the
> Advisory Board is reconstituted?
>
> "Rogol"
>
> On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 11:14 AM, Dariusz Jemielniak <dar...@alk.edu.pl>
> wrote:
>
>> I think we should have those channels, once the body is constituted.
>>
>> Best
>>
>> Dj
>>
>> On Jun 26, 2017 19:59, "Rogol Domedonfors" <domedonf...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Dariusz
>>>
>>> Thanks for that update.  You don't mention any channels for
>>> communication between the reconstituted Board and the Community at large,
>>> nor opportunities for the Community at large to be involved in suggesting
>>> names.  I assume then that engagement with the Community is not considered
>>> important here?
>>>
>>> "Rogol"
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 26, 2017 at 9:31 AM, Dariusz Jemielniak <dar...@alk.edu.pl>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello! The Advisory Board (AB) and its role was indeed among the BGC
>>>> priorities for this year [1]. And I have been working with the former AB
>>>> members on a concept for how the AB’s work should be organized. The
>>>> concept
>>>> they came up though needs to be clarified and improved, especially on
>>>> how
>>>> the AB internal coordination will be organized [2]. The group will work
>>>> on
>>>> this with minimal overhead from the Board of Trustees and without
>>>> staff/budget support at first. The BGC believes that the AB can be used
>>>> as
>>>> a practical path for prospective members of the Board Board of Trustees,
>>>> and to formalize relationships between high-profile experts, and staff
>>>> and
>>>> the Board members. We shall answer with more details soon.
>>>>
>>>> We have not made any announcements, as we're in the process, which I
>>>> ope is
>>>> understandable - there is no formal constitution of the body yet.
>>>>
>>>> Dariusz & Nat
>>>>
>>>> [1]
>>>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Board_G
>>>> overnance_Committee/Minutes_2016-07-08#Advisory_Board
>>>> [2]
>>>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Board_G
>>>> overnance_Committee/Minutes_13-04-2017
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Jun 25, 2017 at 6:49 PM, Rogol Domedonfors <
>>>> domedonf...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > Craig
>>>> >
>>>> > Thanks for your thoughtful response.  There are two gneral issues
>>>> around
>>>> > the Advisory Board that members of the Community might be interested
>>>> in.
>>>> >
>>>> > Firstly, it seems that after having lapsed in 2015, the Advisory
>>>> Board has
>>>> > been reconstituted, but there has been no announcement to the
>>>> Community,
>>>> > and indeed the Community was given no opportunity to engage with the
>>>> > process of reconstitution (for example, by way of suggesting new
>>>> members or
>>>> > new processes).  In particular, we in the Community do not know who
>>>> the new
>>>> > Advisory Board members are, or what the new remit of the Advisory
>>>> Board is,
>>>> > or whether and how to engage with those members.
>>>> >
>>>> > Secondly, as a consequence there are no established channels for
>>>> engagement
>>>> > between the Advisory Board and the Community.  As a member of the new
>>>> > Avdvisory Board, you may wish to encourage your colleagues to
>>>> establish
>>>> > appropriate opportunities and rules of engagement for yourself and
>>>> your
>>>> > fellow members to engage with the Community.
>>>> >
>>>> > You mentioned "tradtions".  I am sorry to say that my personal view
>>>> is that
>>>> > the relationship between the Boa

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Advisory Board of the Wikimedia Foundation

2017-06-27 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
I think we should have those channels, once the body is constituted.

Best

Dj

On Jun 26, 2017 19:59, "Rogol Domedonfors" <domedonf...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Dariusz
>
> Thanks for that update.  You don't mention any channels for communication
> between the reconstituted Board and the Community at large, nor
> opportunities for the Community at large to be involved in suggesting
> names.  I assume then that engagement with the Community is not considered
> important here?
>
> "Rogol"
>
> On Mon, Jun 26, 2017 at 9:31 AM, Dariusz Jemielniak <dar...@alk.edu.pl>
> wrote:
>
>> Hello! The Advisory Board (AB) and its role was indeed among the BGC
>> priorities for this year [1]. And I have been working with the former AB
>> members on a concept for how the AB’s work should be organized. The
>> concept
>> they came up though needs to be clarified and improved, especially on how
>> the AB internal coordination will be organized [2]. The group will work on
>> this with minimal overhead from the Board of Trustees and without
>> staff/budget support at first. The BGC believes that the AB can be used as
>> a practical path for prospective members of the Board Board of Trustees,
>> and to formalize relationships between high-profile experts, and staff and
>> the Board members. We shall answer with more details soon.
>>
>> We have not made any announcements, as we're in the process, which I ope
>> is
>> understandable - there is no formal constitution of the body yet.
>>
>> Dariusz & Nat
>>
>> [1]
>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Board_
>> Governance_Committee/Minutes_2016-07-08#Advisory_Board
>> [2]
>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Board_
>> Governance_Committee/Minutes_13-04-2017
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jun 25, 2017 at 6:49 PM, Rogol Domedonfors <domedonf...@gmail.com
>> >
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Craig
>> >
>> > Thanks for your thoughtful response.  There are two gneral issues around
>> > the Advisory Board that members of the Community might be interested in.
>> >
>> > Firstly, it seems that after having lapsed in 2015, the Advisory Board
>> has
>> > been reconstituted, but there has been no announcement to the Community,
>> > and indeed the Community was given no opportunity to engage with the
>> > process of reconstitution (for example, by way of suggesting new
>> members or
>> > new processes).  In particular, we in the Community do not know who the
>> new
>> > Advisory Board members are, or what the new remit of the Advisory Board
>> is,
>> > or whether and how to engage with those members.
>> >
>> > Secondly, as a consequence there are no established channels for
>> engagement
>> > between the Advisory Board and the Community.  As a member of the new
>> > Avdvisory Board, you may wish to encourage your colleagues to establish
>> > appropriate opportunities and rules of engagement for yourself and your
>> > fellow members to engage with the Community.
>> >
>> > You mentioned "tradtions".  I am sorry to say that my personal view is
>> that
>> > the relationship between the Board of Trustees and the wider Foundation
>> on
>> > the one hand and the Community of contributors and consumers on the
>> other
>> > has "traditionally" been less than satisfctory.  I hope that this is one
>> > tradition that your advice will be helpful in overturning.
>> >
>> > "Rogol"
>> >
>> > On Sun, Jun 25, 2017 at 4:43 PM, Craig Newmark <craig.newm...@gmail.com
>> >
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > > Rogol, I'm on the advisory board, and actively involved in related
>> > issues,
>> > > but have hesitated posting in respect for Community traditions (as I
>> > learn
>> > > them) and also, as a large effort emerges in journalism regarding
>> > reliable
>> > > sources.
>> > >
>> > > Specifically, the latter involves the News Integrity Initiative
>> centered
>> > at
>> > > the City University of NY, graduate journalism department.
>> > >
>> > > That's to say, I hesitate until I learn the respectful way to talk
>> about
>> > > this, and until the NII has a lot more to say.
>> > >
>> > > Additional constraint per the ethics of funding nonprofit journalism,
>> per
>> > > the American Press Instit

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Advisory Board of the Wikimedia Foundation

2017-06-26 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
imedia_Foundation_
> > > Board_Governance_Committee/Minutes_13-04-2017
> > > show that the BGC took a paper (not made public) from Dariusz on the
> > > subject and agreed to "submit a formal proposal to the Board".  No
> Board
> > > resoultion on the subject has yet been published.
> > >
> > > Rather confusingly, shortly after the BGC meeting, Florence wrote a
> page
> > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_
> > > movement/2017/Sources/WMF_Advisory_board
> > > recording the Advisory Board's opinions on matters arising in the
> current
> > > movement strategy process.  So it would seem that within a fortnight of
> > the
> > > BGC meeting, an entity called the Advisory Board was already in
> existence
> > > again.
> > >
> > > What is the status of the Avisory Board?  Has it been reconstiuted, and
> > if
> > > so, when, and who are its new members?  If it has not been
> reconstituted,
> > > what is the status of Florence's record?  If and when the Advisory
> Board
> > is
> > > reconstituted, will input from the Community for potential members be
> > > welcome, and if so how will it be gathered?  Once the Board is in
> > operation
> > > again, is it expected that it will interact with  the Community, and if
> > so,
> > > what will the mechanism be for that interaction.
> > >
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[Wikimedia-l] FDC results

2017-06-22 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
Hi,

Somehow the results of the FDC elections have not been yet announced here
on the list. The certified outcome of the elections can be found here:

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2017/Results

Congratulations to:

FDC members

   - Michał Buczyński – User:Aegis Maelstrom
   
   - Lorenzo Losa – User:Laurentius
   
   - Liam Wyatt – User:Wittylama
   
   - Osmar Valdebenito – User:B1mbo
   
   - Katherine Bavage – User:Leela0808
   

FDC Ombudsperson

   - Kirill Lokshin – User:Kirill Lokshin
   


On being elected. Many thanks to all candidates, putting yourself forward
in elections requires courage, and is a great service to our community
irrespective of the result.

Best,

Dariusz
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Let's set up a Tor onion service for Wikipedia

2017-06-14 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
hi Faidon,

On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 4:57 PM, Faidon Liambotis 
wrote:

>
>
> However, it hasn't been a priority for me or my team for these reasons:
> - As long as communities feel so-and-so about Tor overall, and e.g.
>   block edits from Tor users, it's hard to justify us in the Foundation
>   investing more time into it, at the expense of other projects. It
>   feels at odds with our communities' wishes a little bit.
>
>
the reason to think about some use of Tor  for me, considering the mixed
feelings about the technology in our community, would be in the app, and
just for reading. If our app used Tor by default, all users in Turkey would
magically find Wikipedia to work on their phones :)

Facebook app allows Tor, but not by default (because it kills
notifications).

I believe that such a use of Tor would possibly be neutral to many people
who otherwise oppose allowing editing through Tor.

dj
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Let's set up a Tor onion service for Wikipedia

2017-06-13 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 11:38 AM, Yongmin H.  wrote:

> FYI: Editing through tor is blocked for logged in users too, unless you
> have `ipblock-exempt`. (It's included in admins and IP Block Exemptions.)


it is NOW, it does not have to be - through an app.

cheers,

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Let's set up a Tor onion service for Wikipedia

2017-06-13 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 7:22 PM, Trillium Corsage 
wrote:

> 06.06.2017, 01:11, "Risker" :
> > As far as I can tell (and from comments made in the past by actual Tor
> > users), there is no problem whatsoever for Tor users to read Wikipedia
> > while using Tor. Editing is a completely different situation - and well
> it
> > should be, given the pure unadulterated trash that tends to come in
> > whenever a Tor exit node is missed in the routine lockdowns.
>

well, editing through Tor when you are logged in is quite ok, right?

One thing that I've been thinking about recently would be defaulting to Tor
in our mobile app - for reading, and for editing just for the logged in
users.

Facebook app currently offers channeling through Tor, but not as default
(mainly because it kills notifications, but we don't need them). If we
defaulted to Tor traffic for our app, we would effectively make blocks
transparent to most users. The advantage of this solution is that probably
99% of our regular readers will not switch to Tor if they have not used it
before.

(just my 2 non-technical cents, possibly a stupid idea)

dj
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Katherine Maher is making me happy this week

2017-06-01 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
t have to bring a
> gift
> > for Katherine, the only person who was deserved my admiration this year,
> > and it would be too hard to pick an appropriate gift for her... The Moon?
> > The stars? They are hard to transport, anyway.
> >
> > Please forgive me for my ramblings. I just think that Katherine is great
> > and that she deserves more emails like this one.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Micru
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Results of the 2017 Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees election

2017-05-23 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
To be fair, while I opposed THIS particular removal from the Board, I think
the Board SHOULD have the right to expel people who are perceived as
disruptive, uncooperative, or not fulfilling their fiduciary duties well.

Such cases should be rare, and exceptionally well grounded and explained
(whenever possible).

Best,

Dj

On May 23, 2017 3:14 PM, "James Salsman" <jsals...@gmail.com> wrote:

Instead of blaming people, I blame the idea that board members should ever
be ejected if they have lost the trust or confidence of other board
members, or because other members feel uncomfortable working with them, or
because they may choose to withhold or be more forthcoming with information
than other members prefer.

Joining a representative body should require a conscious effort to avoid
groupthink, not a suicide pact to abide by it.


On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 8:06 PM Fæ <fae...@gmail.com> wrote:

> +1 :-)
>
> The elected candidates are ideal, making me feel confident that the
> values and aspirations of the wider Wikimedia volunteer community will
> be well represented in the coming year.
>
> As previously mentioned, Alice and Jimmy were the main political
> players in excluding Doc James from board discussions. The expulsion
> of James from the board as an //elected// trustee has damaged the
> reputation of the WMF board of trustees, and they must take fair
> personal responsibility for those events. It would be great if both
> Alice and Jimmy could speak up now, perhaps now thanking Doc James for
> having the determination to run again for the board and ensuring the
> community that they will do everything they can to ensure James is
> supported and welcome, or have the wisdom to step down if they feel
> unable to work collegiately and positively with their elected fellow
> trustees.
>
> The historical theme of the WMF board being directed by trustees that
> have never stood for an open election is an embarrassment in the light
> of the unnecessarily policial recent history of the WMF. We are
> overdue for the board to be seen to get their fingers out, do some
> meaningful housekeeping, and re-invent itself as one that is properly
> open, transparent and accountable to volunteers as well as large rich
> donors. Naturally, well intentioned folks who "happen to" benefit from
> their sticky conflicts of interest in directly related commercial
> ventures, such as Wikia and Wikitrubune, should not be anywhere near
> the board, nor should they hold positions of influence on related
> committees and trusts where the potential conflicts of loyalty
> represent financial and reputational risks for the Wikimedia community
> and the Wikimedia Foundation.
>
> Fae
> --
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>
> On 23 May 2017 at 12:34, Austin Hair <adh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I normally hate +1s, but I want to congratulate Doc James on his
> > reappointment to the board. I hope we've all learned from his previous
> > term, and can work together to benefit the movement.
> >
> > With love,
> >
> > One of your list administrators, who would rather not have to deal with
> > fiascos.
> >
> > On May 23, 2017 02:12, "Isaac Olatunde" <reachout2is...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Congratulations to the newly elected members and many thanks to members
> of
> >> the election committee.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Isaac.
> >>
> >> On Mon, May 22, 2017 at 3:12 AM, Tito Dutta <trulyt...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Many congrats to all the members. Good wishes and all the best.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On 22 May 2017 at 11:53, Rogol Domedonfors <domedonf...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Indeed.  It would be appropriate for members of the Board to state
> now,
> >> > in
> >> > > public and for the record, that they accept the democratically
> >> expressed
> >> > > wishes of the community and will reappoint James at the due time.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > On Mon, May 22, 2017 at 12:18 AM, MZMcBride <z...@mzmcbride.com>
> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > > matanya moses wrote:
> >> > > > >Congratulations to María Sefidari (User:Raystorm), Dariusz
> >> Jemielniak
> >> > > > >(User:pundit), and James Heilman (User:Doc James) for receiving
> the
> >> > most
> >> > > > >community support. Subject to a standard background check, they
> will
> >> &

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMIL General Assembly meeting and Board elections 2017

2017-05-09 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
Congrats! You clearly do something right :)

On May 9, 2017 11:02 AM, "Itzik - Wikimedia Israel" 
wrote:

Dear all,

Yesterday (8.5.17) Wikimedia Israel (WMIL) held a general assembly meeting,
during which the members held the elections for members of the Board of
WMIL.

The results of the elections are as follows:

Itzik Edri,(reelected)
Deror Lin, (reelected)
Ido Ivri, (reelected)
Hana Yariv (reelected)
Dana Dekel (reelected)

Audit committee: Oved Cohen (reelected).

The new Board then proceeded to reelect Itzik Edri as the chairperson, and
to elect Ido Ivri as the Board Secretary


Regards,
Itzik
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Join us for a conversation with Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustee candidates

2017-05-07 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
chapeau bas to the Election Committee and the staff to organize it on such
a short notice by popular demand!

dj

On Sun, May 7, 2017 at 10:25 PM, Natacha Rault <n.ra...@me.com> wrote:

> Thanks for providing this, very useful and helpful. Nattes à chat
> > Le 7 mai 2017 à 19:02, James Alexander <jalexan...@wikimedia.org> a
> écrit :
> >
> > This is starting now (and will be available for replay later). You can
> find
> > the live stream at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AhwrJ9qcgc
> >
> > On Sat, May 6, 2017 at 3:11 PM James Alexander <jalexan...@wikimedia.org
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Aye, this will be available (at the same youtube link) starting shortly
> >> after the live stream completes.
> >>
> >> On Sat, May 6, 2017 at 8:15 AM Lane Rasberry <l...@bluerasberry.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Since this is live on YouTube, that also means this will be recorded
> and
> >>> available after, right?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks.
> >>> On Fri, May 5, 2017 at 10:20 PM Samuel Klein <meta...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Thanks ElecComm, this is great to hear.   SJ
> >>>>
> >>>> On Fri, May 5, 2017 at 9:07 PM, James Alexander <
> >>> jalexan...@wikimedia.org>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Hi all!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Upon request User:Matanya (from the Election Committee) will be
> >>> hosting a
> >>>>> discussion with the Candidates currently running for the community
> >>> spots
> >>>> on
> >>>>> the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees[1]. The conversation will
> >>> take
> >>>>> place at 17:00 UTC (10:00 Pacific) on Sunday May 7th and we currently
> >>>>> expect up to 8 of the 9 Candidates to be able to attend and all
> >>>> candidates
> >>>>> attending will get equal time. If you'd like to watch you can do so
> on
> >>>>> Youtube[2] and a back channel will be set up for conversation on the
> >>>>> #wikimedia-office IRC channel on Freenode. We will also send a
> >>> reminder
> >>>>> email to this list shortly before the event.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I hope to see you all there!
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 1.
> >>>>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_
> >>>>> elections/2017/Board_of_Trustees
> >>>>> 2. The event will be live at
> >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AhwrJ9qcgc
> >>>>> once it starts.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> For the Election Committee,
> >>>>> James Alexander
> >>>>> Advisor
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> *James Alexander*
> >>>>> Manager, Trust & Safety
> >>>>> Wikimedia Foundation
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> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Join us for a conversation with Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustee candidates

2017-05-07 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
chapeau bas to the Election Committee and the staff to organize it on such
a short notice by popular demand!

dj

On Sun, May 7, 2017 at 10:25 PM, Natacha Rault <n.ra...@me.com> wrote:

> Thanks for providing this, very useful and helpful. Nattes à chat
> > Le 7 mai 2017 à 19:02, James Alexander <jalexan...@wikimedia.org> a
> écrit :
> >
> > This is starting now (and will be available for replay later). You can
> find
> > the live stream at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AhwrJ9qcgc
> >
> > On Sat, May 6, 2017 at 3:11 PM James Alexander <jalexan...@wikimedia.org
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Aye, this will be available (at the same youtube link) starting shortly
> >> after the live stream completes.
> >>
> >> On Sat, May 6, 2017 at 8:15 AM Lane Rasberry <l...@bluerasberry.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Since this is live on YouTube, that also means this will be recorded
> and
> >>> available after, right?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks.
> >>> On Fri, May 5, 2017 at 10:20 PM Samuel Klein <meta...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Thanks ElecComm, this is great to hear.   SJ
> >>>>
> >>>> On Fri, May 5, 2017 at 9:07 PM, James Alexander <
> >>> jalexan...@wikimedia.org>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Hi all!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Upon request User:Matanya (from the Election Committee) will be
> >>> hosting a
> >>>>> discussion with the Candidates currently running for the community
> >>> spots
> >>>> on
> >>>>> the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees[1]. The conversation will
> >>> take
> >>>>> place at 17:00 UTC (10:00 Pacific) on Sunday May 7th and we currently
> >>>>> expect up to 8 of the 9 Candidates to be able to attend and all
> >>>> candidates
> >>>>> attending will get equal time. If you'd like to watch you can do so
> on
> >>>>> Youtube[2] and a back channel will be set up for conversation on the
> >>>>> #wikimedia-office IRC channel on Freenode. We will also send a
> >>> reminder
> >>>>> email to this list shortly before the event.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I hope to see you all there!
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 1.
> >>>>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_
> >>>>> elections/2017/Board_of_Trustees
> >>>>> 2. The event will be live at
> >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AhwrJ9qcgc
> >>>>> once it starts.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> For the Election Committee,
> >>>>> James Alexander
> >>>>> Advisor
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> *James Alexander*
> >>>>> Manager, Trust & Safety
> >>>>> Wikimedia Foundation
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> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Affiliates] Chapter De-Recognition: Wikimedia Philippines

2017-04-25 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 4:42 PM, Gnangarra  wrote:

>
> I  look at the current processes around affiliates thats made it a longer
> journey for any group to become a chapter, but once there it appears rather
> to not take that way in reverse.  Maybe the process could be reconfigured
> to enable a smoother transition in either direction, and wouldnt such a
> transition be of greater benefit to the movement long term.  It could have
> more been more productive less dramatic to have rebadged WMPH as a user
> group, with a name change to a more regional identity.


exactly,  a very good idea - smoother transitions between the statuses
could have some merit.

My biggest concern is that in all necessary decommissionings and
non-compliance notices we also end up discouraging good-will volunteers -
offering them a less demanding status could definitely be an option to help
them recover and come back.

dj "pundit"
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [arbcom-l] Where is WMF with pursuing companies that offer paid editing services

2017-04-14 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 5:23 AM, Gnangarra  wrote:
>
> > but they didnt spam, nor did they introduce any false hoods, or remove
> > controversial content, they just put a description of the Whopper for the
> > opening sentence.


I agree with James on this one. They "described" their product in a very
flattering way, unnecessarily introducing marketing jargon ("known as
America's favorite", "00% beef with no preservatives", "no fillers", "daily
sliced" etc.). It is spam and in the future, near rather than far, we need
to start seriously thinking how we can combat such content
attacks/hijacking. There are some similarities to our work with
anti-harassment, but I hope we'll be able to develop a more dedicated
approach to this problem, that the Burger King manifestation is only a
single example of.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF advanced permissions for employees

2017-02-16 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
Hi Fae,

I don't think the argument was that you were a "predatory individual
victimizing underage editors", but that the rules and practices should
recognize that such people exist and our projects need protection from
them. This is at least my reading of this.

best,

dariusz



On Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 10:02 AM, Fæ <fae...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Were I a "predatory individuals victimizing underage editors" there would
> be a reason to threaten me with a ban for replying to questions from other
> editors on my home talk page. But I am not. James' bad faith is
> unacceptable.
>
> Fae
>
> On 16 Feb 2017 14:22, "Robert Fernandez" <wikigamal...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I don't see the point of paying for legal and community safety experts
> if we aren't going to allow them to engage in their area of
> professional expertise.  Transparency, due process, and community
> governance are important values, but they are not the skills you need
> to bring to bear when it comes to issues such as, for example,
> predatory individuals victimizing underage editors.   I know this
> sounds like "won't somebody think of the children!" but the thought of
> untrained volunteers, however sensitive and well meaning they are,
> attempting to deal with an issue like this frightening, and the
> thought of what passes for community governance on the English
> Wikipedia attempting to deal with this is positively bonechilling.  It
> has very real consequences for the real, offline lives of victims and
> opens volunteers and projects to significant legal jeopardy.
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 11:57 PM, Pine W <wiki.p...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > * Based on what I currently know, I disagree with WMF's choice to
> site-ban
> > individuals instead of leaving that decision to the community,
> particularly
> > when the evidence is not public. It seems to me that this practice is
> > incompatible with transparency, due process, and community governance of
> > Wikimedia content sites (which notably excludes the Foundation wiki).
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Ethnography of Wikipedia" (2014, Stanford University Press) mojego
autorstwa http://www.sup.org/book.cgi?id=24010

Recenzje
Forbes: http://www.forbes.com/fdc/welcome_mjx.shtml
Pacific Standard:
http://www.psmag.com/navigation/books-and-culture/killed-wikipedia-93777/
Motherboard: http://motherboard.vice.com/read/an-ethnography-of-wikipedia
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http://thewikipedian.net/2014/10/10/dariusz-jemielniak-common-knowledge
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Chapter De-Recognition: Wikimedia Hong Kong

2017-02-08 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
On Wed, Feb 8, 2017 at 9:22 AM, Gnangarra  wrote:

> Observation: When we place trust within the projects and the community it
> appears that we like to grab the biggest stick possible to whack people
> with it with at the first opportunity.


I am not going to comment on this particular case - although I believe that
to make a fair judgment one would probably have to go into a bit more
details than compare the dates of report submissions.

I have to say that in my whole hands-on experience with the WMF staff
responsible for relations with our affiliates over the last 5+ years, I
have NEVER observed their urge to "grab the biggest stick possible to whack
people at the first opportunity" as you put it. Have they misunderstood
cultural nuances? Sure, sometimes. Have they been driven by their own
strong view how things should be done? Definitely (not sure if it is always
a bad thing, btw). Have they decided about the things, that the community
should have more influence on? Maybe.

However, on a number of occassions I have seen the WMF staff to be really
supportive and passionate about the affiliate work. The drive to punish
anyone is something I've never observed. For the good or for the bad, they
are professionals. They definitely occasionally make mistakes, like we all
do - and these should be constructively discussed, while aiming at the best
possible result for the community. But I believe that suggesting that the
WMF is simply waiting for opportunities to use disproportionate punishments
on affiliates is outright assuming bad faith, and is unfair.

best,

dariusz ("pundit"), current community-elected trustee
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] February 2: Update on Wikimedia movement strategy process (#5)

2017-02-05 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
On Sat, Feb 4, 2017 at 4:41 PM, Oloruntoba Oyeyele <
oloruntobaoyey...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks for this update. Most especially, it's interesting to know the
> renewed focus on the African community.


It has been overdue and it is great we can work more in this exciting
region! :)

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] WikiProject Medicine Foundation: New Board Elected

2017-01-29 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
many congrats!!! Looks like a really strong team! :)

dj

On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 1:56 PM, Shani Evenstein <shani.e...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> I'm happy to announce that the user group "WikiProject Med Foundation" has
> a
> new board <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiki_Project_Med/Board>
> elected,
> which includes:
>
> 1) *James Heilman* - chair
> 2) *Shani Evenstein* - vice chair; membership admin.
> 3) *Doug Taylor* - treasurer
> 4) *James Hare* - secretary
> 5) *Jacob F. de Wolff*
> 6) *Sydney Poore*
> 7) *Carl Fredrik Sjoland*
> 8) *Daniel Mietchen*
> 9) *Vinicius Siqueira*
> 10) *Subas Chandra Rout*
> 11) *Jake Orlowitz*
> 12) *Emily Temple-Wood *
>
> Please join me in thanking previous board members *Anthony Cole*, *Peter
> Coti* & *Brian Basden, *as well as *Lane Rasberry, *for their service thus
> far and their support during the transition period.
>
> Wishing all of us a fruitful and productive term,
>
> Shani Evenstein,
> On behalf of the WikiProject Med Foundation Board.
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Forbes: http://www.forbes.com/fdc/welcome_mjx.shtml
Pacific Standard:
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Motherboard: http://motherboard.vice.com/read/an-ethnography-of-wikipedia
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] News regarding Wikimania 2018

2017-01-10 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
many thanks for your hard work and - yay, this is really exciting!

dj

On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 2:08 PM, Ellie Young <eyo...@wikimedia.org> wrote:

> All,
>
> On behalf of the Wikimania Steering Committee and the Wikimedia Foundation,
>  I am pleased to announce that we have decided to explore having Wikimania
>  2018 located in Cape Town, South Africa. It would be hosted by a team
> <http://wikimedia.org.za/wiki/Wikimania_2018_team> led Douglas Scott with
> support of the Wikimedia ZA chapter and the WMF. The proposal will be
> further vetted by the WMF staff in the coming months, after which time we
> hope to confirm the award.
>
> This past Fall there were a total of four teams
> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2018> that expressed interest
> in
> hosting in 2018.   We would also like to thank the people from South
> Africa, Armenia, Thailand, and Perth for all their effort in putting
> together materials for our consideration and their time spent discussing
> the possibilities.   As a volunteer-led movement, it is very  encouraging
> to have so many who want to support Wikimania.
>
> Please join us in congratulating the South African team.   If any of you
> would like to get involved or have questions/suggestions, please
> contact Douglas
> Scott  douglas.i.sc...@gmail.com
>
> Sincerely,
>
>
> Ellie Young
>
> WMF Events Manager
>
> On behalf of the Wikimania Steering Committee and Wikimedia Foundation
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] "Delegation of policy-making authority" resolution

2016-12-21 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
hi Craig,

On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 5:18 AM, Craig Franklin 
wrote:

> As frustrating as the drama was at the beginning of the year for us, I'd
> prefer to get one well considered story from someone like Dariusz, rather
> than a mishmash of uncoordinated replies that have some inconsequential
> contradictions in them for people to obsess over.  Sometimes too much
> communication begins to obscure the message.
>

Many thanks! I think we should have a conversation e.g. at Wikimania
sometime, in order to seriously reflect on the past and also try to make it
a more generalized learning experience. In fact, such a session, involving
various stakeholders (trustees, staff mebers, chapter representatives,
volunteers, etc.) could be quite useful anyway, and become a sensible
tradition every year.

However, for various reasons, there may be huge gaps in what a historic
narrative can contain. In my personal view, it may be also more useful to
try to focus on learnings for the future.

best,

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[Wikimedia-l] Board approval of FDC recommendation 2016-2017- Round 1

2016-12-19 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
Dear members of the Wikimedia community,

On behalf of the Board of Trustees of the Wikimedia Foundation, I write to
share the news that we have approved [1] the full slate of the FDC’s Round
1 2016-2017 recommendations [2] for the Annual Plan Grants. In this round,
11 organizations will be receiving a total of
roughly US$3,210,000. Grants are made in local currency, so the USD figure
is approximate.

We want to thank the Funds Dissemination Committee members and staff for
the time and effort they have put into this process, as well as all members
of the community who have participated in this round of analysis and
deliberations.
This year introduced the possibility for some organizations to apply for
multi-year funding [3] (a 2-year program) for the first time. We are glad
to see that this was taken into consideration by the FDC and are looking
forward to learn from this pilot how the Wikimedia organizations can better
support long-term programs.

Thank you to all the organizations involved in this round, and for the work
that the volunteers and staff of these organizations have put in to further
our mission.

We are glad to witness that our movement’s efforts to foster thoughtful
planning show in the annual plans of the participating organizations and
are looking forward to the next round of applications in April 2017.

Sincerely,

Dariusz, on behalf of the WMF Board of Trustees
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] (no subject)

2016-11-15 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
hi Rogol,



On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 4:38 PM, Rogol Domedonfors 
wrote:

> I quite understand that some members of the Board feel that there are more
> important calls on their collective time and resources than engaging
> directly with individual members of the community, even though some do feel
> that they may be able to as individuals.  I note that you feel that it is
> possible that returning to this issue next year the Board may be able to
> make some improvements (and, we presume, may not).  So you propose to park
> the issue and maybe do something in the future, but without any sort of
> urgency or commitment.
>

I think there may be a bit of good will misunderstanding. I strongly
believe that the Board members should engage directly with individual
members of the community. I have only acknowledged the fact that our
current technologies are highly imperfect for that.



> I think this is completely mistaken.  The community has far more resources,
> far better ideas, and far more experience than the Board on its own can
> possibly hope to have – if only the Board were willing and able to tap into
> it.  Constructive engagement would not only pay for itself purely in terms
> of avoiding the conflicts which have drained everyone's time and energy in
> the past, but also enable the Board to take a more far-sighted and positive
> attitude to the future direction of the mission.
>

This is absolutely a very good point. I definitely believe that the
community has the skills, experience, and ability to help (or heavy-lift on
its own) a number of tech solutions. However, if better communication tools
are not developed from within the community, we still should make them,
that's the point.



>
> The Board's failure to engage effectively with the community until now, and
> lack of interest in doing so in the future, is putting the mission at
> risk.  What a shame.
>

Again, I have not expressed such a lack of interest, and I don't think
other members did.

best,

dariusz
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Agenda for the November 13, 2016 Board Meeting

2016-11-14 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 11:37 AM, Chris Keating 
wrote:

> Since the board meeting has just happened, is now the right time to
> mention minutes? :)
>
> In the past the idea's been floated that something could be published
> shortly after the meeting - be it draft minutes, or informal notes, or some
> of the presentations. It would be really helpful to see anything along
> those lines that can be shared in the next couple of days.
>
>
>
Board mebers are still on their way home, so give us some time :) After the
last meeting, the minutes were made available under 2 weeks after the
meeting, and this time they may be even quicker, but it requires all Board
members to approve them, which is the biggest bottleneck (I do committ to
trying harder, and will poke my fellows, if they fall behind).

best,

dj
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] (no subject)

2016-11-14 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
Dear Rogol,


On Sun, Nov 13, 2016 at 5:21 PM, Rogol Domedonfors 
wrote:

> Jimmy Wales wrote: "it is possible and welcomed to bring forward issues to
> board members at any time".
>
> It would be most helpful to know where and how the Board in general would
> welcome such issues being raised and how much resource they will have to
> sustain those discussions.



I think it is fair to say that we lack good, efficient and scalable
communication channels. We have discussed additional ones, commitment
tracking possibilities, etc. at Wikimania with the communication staff
(who, by the way, are extremely professional and skilled), and it is my
understanding that while it is impossible to make rapid improvements, we
can come back to this conversation in 2017 and possibly make some
improvements.

I personally would love e.g. to see a system of Board members cmmitments
tracking (useful for the Board, just as much as for communal control), or a
system in which the community could upvote/downvote partiular ideas to
discuss (like in a community's wishlist).

Until we have better tech available, I want to assure you that I want to be
available, and apart from Meta, I gladly offer IRC or video conversations,
or other media, to whoever feels it may be useful (let's track this
committment of mine in the old-fashioned way for now).

best,

dariusz "pundit"
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Agenda for the November 13, 2016 Board Meeting

2016-11-14 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
I personally would not mind publishing draft agendas, if there was a common
understanding, that they are not final.

best,

dj

On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 2:21 AM, Rogol Domedonfors <domedonf...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Christophe,
>
> Thank you for explaining that there were two meetings involved.
>
> I welcome the assurance that the agenda will be published earlier in
> future.
>
> "Rogol"
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Pacific Standard:
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Motherboard: http://motherboard.vice.com/read/an-ethnography-of-wikipedia
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] How should security of Wikimedia accounts be better?

2016-11-12 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
+1 to what Craig wrote: two-factor authentication, with a key stored in an
authenticator application (which eliminates the problem of revealing the
phone number), would definitely be a great thing - and we could make it
opt-in, except for higher level functionaries.

best,

dariusz

On Sat, Nov 12, 2016 at 7:27 AM, Craig Franklin <cfrank...@halonetwork.net>
wrote:

> I know it's been said many times, but two-factor authentication, mandatory
> for accounts with advanced privileges and optionally available for everyone
> else, would seem to be a logical step.  It's not foolproof, but it would go
> a long way to making us less of a soft target.
>
> Cheers,
> Craig
>
> On 12 November 2016 at 22:22, Fæ <fae...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Do any of the volunteers contributing to this list have ideas for
> > changes that may make a significant difference to security?
> >
> > Yesterday saw Jimmy Wales' Wikipedia account getting hacked, in the
> > process appearing to promote an organisation.[1] It was not the only
> > account compromised. This is being analysed, though as there are
> > security issues being examined, the analysis has not been made public
> > so far; plus it's the weekend :-)
> >
> > Over the last few years, there have improvements on account set-up and
> > choice of passwords, along with user suggestions for better account
> > management. Users can also chose to use committed identities[2] to
> > make account recovery easier, and are encouraged to use more secure
> > passwords. Two-factor authentication,[3] such as using mobile phone
> > text messages, has been suggested a few times by volunteers, and this
> > might be a good moment to encourage the WMF to have better facilities
> > built into the projects. We could even make two-factor identification
> > a requirement for trusted users, such as administrators, important
> > bots, and "high profile" accounts, where they may have special rights
> > that could cause a fair amount of disruption if a hacked account were
> > not identified quickly. Considering that some administrator accounts
> > can lie dormant for many months without the actual user monitoring it,
> > these could end up being far more disruptive than well-watched
> > accounts like Jimmy's.
> >
> > We may want extra security to remain mostly optional, keeping our
> > projects simple to access. Education of new volunteers and trusted
> > users may be critical for making it effective, such as avoiding social
> > hacking. A clearer understanding of what the community would want to
> > see improved would probably help set development priorities.
> >
> > Links
> > 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jimbo_Wales#Compromised
> > 2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Committed_identity
> > 3. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multi-factor_authentication
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Fae
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Pacific Standard:
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Motherboard: http://motherboard.vice.com/read/an-ethnography-of-wikipedia
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Respect and good faith

2016-11-08 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 7:29 PM, Rogol Domedonfors 
wrote:

> Since however, board and staff members are so concerned about respect and
> good faith, perhaps they would like demonstrate their commitment by being
> more willing to extend those courtesies to members of the volunteer
> communty.  A way of doing that would be to assume good faith, actually read
> comments and respond in a helpful and constructive way.  Some staff and
> board members are exemplary in their engagement with the community.  Some,
> sadly, have been quite the opposite.
>
>
I think you're right that we all need to work hard to be civil, and that
always assuming good faith is not something we're born with, it requires
work, and will.

One of the lessons from Wikimedia, that I have learnt and that I value a
lot, is that it is possible to focus on valid and positive parts of
messages rather than on everything else, even if the other part dominates -
and I agree with you that we should all aim to do that.

I personally did not read the emails you quote as disrespectful or
purposedly stifling discussion, but of course I understand that
sensitivities differ.

best,

dariusz "pundit"
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF Board: Vacant appointed seats and Turnover (Was: Personal Update)

2016-11-05 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
+1 to what Lodewijk, Anders, and James wrote.

I see benefits in onboarding around Wikimania, and having a system in which
each year we add three people (one year from the community, one from
chapters, one from experts).

However, I don't see it as an argument to extend the terms for current
trustees for a transition period.

There should be some limit (6 years now), and also reappointments in the
case of experts should be based both on the organizational needs, the level
of expertise offered, and the energy and value added - just as Anders
mentioned, these are not always given and stable.

You wrote that " in case this extension is too much to ask from the current
trustees, I'd rather leave the seats vacant."

I personally would rather fill the currently empty expert seat in January,
at the same time that the remaining  two seats are open for
(re/)appointment and set their term till Wikimania 2018.l, so that it
clicks perfectly with the desires calendar.

1.5 year is a short but manageable term, that for new people will also
offer us some ability to check them out, and for veterans will not as much
strain as a full term.

Yes, we will have a lot of onboarding  (twice in a year in 2017), but it is
still better than potentially onboarding 6 entirely new people at the same
time; part of continuity is avoiding total revamping (if terms were
extended by half a year), and better than extending by a really long period
of 1.5 years.

Best

Dj "pundit"

On Nov 5, 2016 14:12, "Lodewijk"  wrote:

> Hi Nataliia,
>
> It would have been nice if you could have shared this a bit earlier, given
> that apparently the board meeting is next week. This gives little time for
> discussion of your proposal, on a topic that has received wide interest
> previously. Perhaps that could be considered a point for improvement,
> especially on these non-urgent reform topics. That gives you more time to
> incorporate the feedback into your proposal.
>
> I destilled a few different topics from your email:
> 1) Better onboarding processes
> - sounds great to me. Please feel free to invite community members in
> setting up such processes as well. I understood that something like that
> was aimed to happen at past Wikimania, and that sounds like a good move!
> Getting a clear 'synopsis' would probably also help, something that can
> serve as a reference point to make sure that nothing is missing. I would
> also advise the method I have seen some WMF employees use (but this may be
> more time consuming), and that is to have the new board members do some
> 'interviews' or in general structured conversations with community members,
> staff members and other stakeholders during their first months. Wikimania
> is a great opportunity for that.
>
> 2) Changing the 'entry point' for appointed board members from January to
> Wikimania
> - May be sensible or not. The upside is that more things happen at once,
> which means less repetition. The downside is that everything happens.. at
> once. You'll have potentially a board meeting where 40% is brand new.
> That's a lot. I don't have a strong preference either way, but whatever you
> choose, I think it'd be good to introduce an observer status for upcoming
> board members in the months leading up to their formal appointment - if
> that doesn't exist yet - especially for people with less of a Wikimedia
> background. You could use the January-Wikimania gap for that.
>
> 3) you propose longer terms
> - 3 year terms are already quite long in my opinion. Continuity can happen
> in two ways: because you force it to happen (i.e. by longer terms), or
> because people get re-appointed/re-selected. In the past years there was a
> lot of turnover in the community and chapter seats because the latter did
> not happen: board members were not re-selected. There is probably some
> relationship with how the board performance was appreciated by the
> electorate. And one could argue that in such a case, it might maybe be
> better to not force more continuity - because it also results in less
> opportunity to improve the board when there's an observed need for that. In
> this light, I would definitely not be in favour for lengthening the term
> lengths other that the occasional 6 months to make entry points fit
> together better.
>
> I hope this caught the changes you're proposing? Please correct me if I
> missed something.
>
> Thanks for sharing though, and I hope that you'll engage in a constructive
> discussion despite the short time left before the board meeting :)
>
> Best,
> Lodewijk
>
>
>
> 2016-11-05 13:07 GMT+01:00 Nataliia Tymkiv :
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I am forking a discussion on Wikimedia Foundation Board of trustees
> vacant
> > appointed seat(s) and turnover at this point.
> >
> > == The Board members start and end terms (Turnover) ==
> > I have drafted here three charts indicating the starting and ending of
> the
> > terms of the Board members:
> >
> > 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Ray Saintonge has died

2016-09-13 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
this is really sad news :(

dj

On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 12:00 PM, Milos Rancic <mill...@gmail.com> wrote:

> He died yesterday. As he was an important member of our community, I
> think we should make something appropriate so he would be remembered.
>
> --
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[Wikimedia-l] FDC appointments

2016-09-02 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
Dear Wikimedians,

We are pleased to inform you that the WMF Board of Trustees has come to a
decision about which four candidates to appoint to the FDC for the next 2
years. It wasn't easy, as the caliber of candidates[*] was extremely high,
and their range of skills and expertise extremely impressive.

The resolution is now published in
https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Resolution:Funds_Dissemination_Committee_Membership_2016

We have selected four appointees as follows:

1) Garfield Byrd (User:Gtbiv)
2) Anne Clin (User:Risker)
3) Bishakha Datta (User:Bishdatta)
4) Candelaria Laspeñas (User:Cande_laspe)

On behalf of the Board, we want to thank Dumisani, Matanya and Osmar for
their service to the FDC. We deeply appreciate the years they have served
the committee and all the work they have done during many rounds of FDC
recommendations. Their insights, perspectives and experiences have been
invaluable to the work of the committee, and have gone a long way in
shaping the development of the APG process into a successful and important
part of grant-making in the Wikimedia world.

We hope they will continue to remain engaged in the movement in different
ways in the years ahead.

We also want to thank all the candidates that participated in this round of
nominations, and encourage them to consider re-applying for the committee
next year, when new members will be elected to serve on the committee.

Best,

Dariusz & Guy
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] New Elections Committee

2016-08-25 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 8:09 PM, Risker  wrote:

> I am also curious whether the committee members (and by extension the WMF
> staff and Board liaisons) have undertaken to not run in the next election.
> Given that the Committee is tasked with reviewing and potentially modifying
> the rules under which future elections will be held, such a public
> confirmation would prevent the perception of conflict of interest.
>
>
I can answer the one about myself: within the Board we have agreed that the
matters pertaining to community elections will be dealt with by Nataliia,
as I have not made a decision about not running yet.

I do hope, however,  that I will be able to cooperate with the Election
Committee on topics such as a more general restructuring of the Board.

best,

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] 2016 call for Board Governance Committee Volunteer and Advisory members [results]

2016-08-17 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
+1, and also I'm amazed how many outstanding people are willing to help!

17.08.2016 2:34 AM "Christophe Henner"  napisał(a):

> I hope nobody will mind, but I'll "Yay" with you too.
>
> Thanks and kuddos to Natalia for bringing the idea up, leading the process,
> and making it happen so quickly. And thanks to everyone who volunteered to
> join bgc on top of their other volunteers position :)
>
> Christophe
>
> On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 11:28 AM, Delphine Ménard 
> wrote:
>
> > Anders said it all. This announcement is so many kind of cool I don't
> > know where to begin. So just YAY! Thanks for the initiative, thanks
> > for volunteering.
> >
> > Delphine
> >
> > On 16 August 2016 at 20:57, Anders Wennersten 
> > wrote:
> > > I joined the movement in 2007. I was then overwhelmed by the beauty and
> > > strength of the concept and the content in the projects. But at the
> same
> > > time I was underwhelmed by the support structure behind. Even if
> Delphine
> > > and Brion were good in talking with everyone and fixing technique and
> > > Florence in chairing the operations, it was surely not up to the needs.
> > >
> > > For me a milestone in getting a professional support structure in place
> > was
> > > in 2012, when the Haifa agreement was realized and the FDC (and
> > > narrowing-focus) got in place. FDC was as fascinating for me as the
> base
> > > concept of the projects and as much true to the values of the movement.
> > And
> > > besides the clever colleagues in the committee I got to know  some
> truly
> > > admirable individuals, like Kate Welsh, Garfield, Gayle and of course
> > > Anasuya (and a little later Katy and Bishakha). Sometimes I feel that
> in
> > the
> > > movement there are the best people you can find anywhere. But at the
> same
> > > time there were underwhelming issues, like a partly dysfunctional Board
> > and
> > > that WMF operations was neither properly working nor reviewed (by FDC).
> > >
> > > I now see that in 2016 a new milestone is being passed when the
> movement
> > (at
> > > last) gets a professional support structure on par with the needs.  I
> > > perceive the tech org now working well and user driven, that the budget
> > > process now has been run professional and that there is a good
> management
> > > team in place for the running of WMF. And after seeing a lot of good
> > > initiatives around the working of the Board where this announcement is
> > the
> > > thing that get the keyelement in place,  I also believe the Board is
> now
> > up
> > > to become as professional as is needed for the movement. And the joy of
> > > seeing the names of many of my all time favourites back (in part also
> in
> > > FDC) is profound.
> > >
> > > Welcome all of you and looking forward to read of the resolutions from
> > this
> > > enhanced BGC
> > >
> > > Anders
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Den 2016-08-16 kl. 15:47, skrev Nataliia Tymkiv:
> > >>
> > >> Dear all,
> > >>
> > >> I am honestly delighted to announce the results of the public call for
> > >> Board Governance committee volunteer and Advisory members, announced
> on
> > >> July 15, 2016  [1]. We received nine applications, and after
> discussing
> > >> them with BGC and reviewing the committee's needs and interviewing a
> > short
> > >> list of candidates,I have chosen five volunteer advisory members for
> the
> > >> committee. I'd like to extend my thanks to everyone who offered to
> serve
> > >> on
> > >> the committee.
> > >>
> > >> Please find below a short introduction for our new volunteer advisory
> > >> members. They are all quite well known in the movement and I think
> their
> > >> insights would be helpful. They join the Committee once they sign the
> > >> documents that Stephen LaPorte, our Interim Secretary, sent to them
> (the
> > >> same ones as the Board members sign - the confidentiality agreement
> > >>
> > >>  > agreement_of_the_Board_of_Trustees>
> > >> , code of conduct
> > >>
> > >>  > the_Board_of_Trustees>
> > >> , conflict of interest disclosure
> > >> ).
> > >>
> > >> === Gayle Karen Young ===
> > >>
> > >> Gayle Karen Young is a WMF's former Chief Talent and Culture office.
> In
> > >> her
> > >> time at Wikimedia, she was accountable for building the current HR
> team
> > >> and
> > >> had an active hand in board development and staffed the board HR
> > >> committee.
> > >> She brings experience with the Wikimedia movement, with the workings
> of
> > >> the
> > >> Foundation, and through her own consulting work in leadership and
> board
> > >> development with organizations in both the for-profit and non-profit
> > >> space,
> > >> and in technology and human rights.
> > >>
> > >> === Kat Walsh ===
> > >>
> > >> Kat Walsh is a 

[Wikimedia-l] FD candidates - shortlisted

2016-08-05 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
Many thanks to all those who nominated themselves for the four vacancies on
the FDC; we have an exceptional slate of candidates this round, of diverse
backgrounds and experiences.

The shortlist of candidates has been posted on meta:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:APG/Funds_Dissemination_Committee/Nominations/2016#Update_from_the_Board_and_shortlist_of_candidates

In the coming weeks, the Board of Trustees will select four members to the
FDC from the interviewed shortlist. We will announce these appointments by
close of day UTC 2 September 2016.

Best
Dariusz and Guy
Board liaisons, FDC
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Suggesting moderation

2016-07-26 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 1:38 PM, Adrian Raddatz  wrote:

> Considering how horrible on-wiki dispute resolution can currently be for
> all involved, I'm OK with keeping this in private here.
>
>
Fair enough. My comment was meant to rather point out that we don't have
rules of behavior, and we're disputing enforcement first instead. I don't
really object to keeping moderation private or semi-private (visible to
other moderators).

dj
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] New Elections Committee

2016-07-26 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 4:22 AM, WereSpielChequers <
werespielchequ...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Pine has a point. We all know that the founder seat will go eventually.
> Whether it goes on the death or incapacity of the founder or earlier is a
> valid question for the board and the community. I'm not convinced that an
> elections committee should be deciding which posts to elect, and even if
> such governance issues do fall into its remit they should probably focus on
> how to elect first. So I'd say this should be a board decision.
>
> As for the arguments to retain a founder seat for the next few decades, I
> suggest that those who favour such a position try to couch their arguments
> in terms of institutional knowledge, the value of an element of continuity
> and the positives for the community to still retain such a link with our
> founder. Then hope that the incidents of a few months ago fade in memory
> and are not repeated. There is a case to be made for a founder seat, but as
> with any argument in this community there are ways to argue respectfully
> and effectively, and there are arguments that undermine your cause and
> weaken your reputation.


I think that Pine's question is definitely valid, and in the same time I
don't think it is really related to the Election Committee, or that it can
be really resolved through a discussion on this mailing list (although it
can be initiated here).

My personal view is that there are a lot of benefits of having the
founder's seat with a voting power, and there are also noticable
disadvantages (accountability to the movement, etc., but also one of the
disadvantages is the returning, endless discussion, drawing our attention
from more crucial topics).

I believe we should get our priorities straight - overall Board
governance/structure, vision, movement's structure all
in my mind are urgent. The founder's seat is a topic related as a specific
subtheme of the Board's structure, and as Christophe has already mentioned,
I think we will get some food for thought once we have the governance
review (for instance, apart from opinions, we'll know more about common
practices - just as a reference, not to bind us in any way, of course).

best,

dariusz "pundit"
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimania-l] [Wikimania Committee] Wikimania 2018

2016-07-23 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
On Sat, Jul 23, 2016 at 6:43 PM, Florence Devouard 
wrote:

>
> We have listened to a lot of community members, both those present at
> Wikimania 2016 and more widely, and decided overall that, given there was
> strong desire for holding Wikimania every year, we should continue to do
> so. This means that we need to pick a team and location for hosting
> Wikimania in July/August 2018 soon.


One word: wow!!!

dariusz
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] June minutes from the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees

2016-07-23 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 11:18 PM, Pine W  wrote:

>
> I feel that it's important that Board members be able to ask employees at
> any level of the company how things are going. That is different from
> providing direction, which can remain in the management structure


adding shortly to what Christophe and Katherine have already stated - I
totally agree that it is important for the Board members to be able to talk
to the WMF staff. In the same time, I think it is important to avoid
disruption, sending mixed signals, and so on. Thus, I think we need to work
on creating channels to communicate, and one of the efforts proposed by the
Board Governance Committee is creating such channels. In fact, the WMF
leadership have thought along the same lines and are already implementing
the "Collective Voice" initiative.

best,

dariusz
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] June minutes from the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees

2016-07-22 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
hi Pine,

On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 9:17 PM, Pine W  wrote:

>  It seems to me that it's
> the Board's job to supervise the ED, which hopefully includes supporting
> him/her but also may include providing direction or removing him/her. I
> personally feel that Katherine is doing well and this is not intended to
> express skepticism about her, but being the ED of an organization is not a
> blank check, and I hope that the Board also takes a proactive role in the
> supervision of the ED.


as you pointed out, one of the roles of the Board is ED supervision, and I
don't think the Board intends to shy away from this duty.

best,

dariusz ("pundit", a current Trustee)
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference: Report 2016, Outlook 2017

2016-07-21 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
wow! this is really impressive!

dj

On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 12:33 PM, Cornelius Kibelka <
cornelius.kibe...@wikimedia.de> wrote:

> Dear Wikimedia friends,
>
> We’re happy to be able to share some news and information around the
> Wikimedia Conference with you:
>
> 1) Report
>
> Today, we have published our report on the Wikimedia Conference 2016. It
> does not only describe our tasks and activities before, on and after the
> conference, but also provides a comprehensive overview of our learnings and
> experience. The report is meant to serve as a learning resources, and based
> on that, we will share more learning patterns in the upcoming months.
>
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Conference_2016/Report
>
> 2) Follow-up page
>
> To better see what continuities and links between the Wikimedia Conferences
> exist, we have created a follow-up page which include the major topics of
> the last two conferences. We will share more updates in the upcoming
> months.
>
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Conference/Follow-Up
>
> 3) First learning pattern
>
> Together with our “Visiting Wikimedian” Teele Vaalma, who supported us
> tremendously in the organization of the Wikimedia Conference, we have
> written a first learning pattern on how to find the right venue for a
> conference (including a checklist!).
>
>
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Learning_patterns/Step_by_step_guide_for_finding_the_right_venue_for_a_conference
>
> 4) Wikimedia Conference 2017
>
> The next edition of the Wikimedia Conference will take place in Berlin
> between March 31st and April 2nd, 2017. We expect the registration to begin
> in mid-November and will share a timeline in the upcoming weeks.
>
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Conference_2017
>
> Cheers & good reading,
>
> Cornelius, Nicole, Wenke and Daniela
>
> (WMCON organizing team)
>
>
> --
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> Program and Engagement Coordinator (PEC), GHM
> for the Wikimedia Conference
>
> Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin
> Tel. (030) 219 158 26-0
> http://wikimedia.de
>
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> Wissens frei teilhaben kann. Helfen Sie uns dabei!
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>
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[Wikimedia-l] The FDC's funding recommendation approved by the Board

2016-06-28 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
Dear members of the Wikimedia community,

On behalf of the Board of Trustees of the Wikimedia Foundation, I write to
share the news that we have approved [1] the full slate of the FDC’s Round
2 2015-2016 recommendations [2] for the Annual Plan Grants, as well as
taken good note of the remarks and recommendations concerning the Wikimedia
Foundation. In this round, 4 organizations will be receiving a total of
roughly US$1,138,000, for a total of US$4,908,000 allocated in both rounds
2015-2016. Grants are made in local currency, so the USD figure is
approximate. The remaining US$1,092,000 from the FDC’s US$6 million grant
envelope this year will remain with the Wikimedia Foundation.

We congratulate the Centre for Internet and Society, Wikimedia Armenia,
Wikimédia France and Wikimedia Norge on their grants, and we are happy to
see that year after year, their work continues to further our mission. We
know that the volunteers, staff, and boards of these organizations are
working hard to advance the goals of the movement.  We thank them for their
work in doing so.

Many people have put in significant work to make this process a success. As
the Board representative to the FDC, I would also like to thank the Funds
Dissemination Committee members and staff, as well as the members of our
communities who participated in the process this round.

We also particularly want to thank the FDC members for putting much effort
into the complex task of reviewing the draft annual plan of the Wikimedia
Foundation.

Volunteers are at the heart of this committee. We are lucky to have a
committee comprised of nine dedicated community members who give their time
and energy into making this funding program a reality. Four of the members
of the FDC have terms that are ending. I want to thank Anne Clin
(User:Risker), Dumisani Ndubane (User:Thuvack), Matanya Moses
(User:Matanya), and Osmar Valdebenito (User:B1mbo) for their two years of
service to this committee. The Board would like to thank you for your work
for four rounds of funding.

We are glad to witness our movement’s great efforts to further the mission
through thoughtful planning and strategic thinking and are looking forward
to the year ahead.

Sincerely,

Dariusz, on behalf of the WMF Board of Trustees


[1]
https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Resolution:Board_approval_of_FDC_recommendation_(2015-16,_Round_2)

[2]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:APG/FDC_recommendations/2015-2016_round_2
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Board Governance Committee update

2016-06-28 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 6:18 PM, Sydney Poore 
wrote:

> With the growth in new methods and processes is the Board planning to have
> a method to  monitor/measure the success of these activities?
>

in fact, we have discussed a public "to-do" tracking system, but we are
shorthanded and it is not likely to happen this calendar year. However, the
idea has support and I believe we'll get there.

dj
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community survey to support the WMF ED search starts right now

2016-06-05 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
On Sun, Jun 5, 2016 at 5:32 PM, Pine W  wrote:

> I'll add a question of my own here. I find this statement interesting:
> "Please
> rate these other qualifications: (Please rate 0 to 5 with 0 being 0 not
> important; 5 for extremely important)... Experience of working in an
> a-hierarchical, participative management environment". I find this puzzling
> because WMF is generally hierarchical organization, with the board an
> executive director at the top, followed by middle management, followed by
> line employees, contractors, and interns. I'm wondering if what is intended
> here is a sentiment that the ED Search Committee would like to *transform
> *WMF
> into a less heirarchical organization. Could someone from the ED Search
> Committee or the Board expand on what your intentions are with this
> question? I cannot imagine how WMF could function as an "a-hierarchical...
> management environment", although I could understand if there is an
> aspiration to collapse a layer or two in the org chart and/or to delegate
> more responsibility from the Board or ED to employees who have more
> expertise in various domains.
>
>
I don't think it is the role of the ED search committee to transform the
organization. However (speaking for myself) I believe that an experience in
a-hierarchical, participative management environment helps understand
wiki-culture a lot.

I'd dare say that some of the WMF employees I knew had great skills, but
had trouble with adjusting to the a-hierarchical/participative nature of
our movement that the WMF is part of. The WMF is less hierarchical than
many NGOs, and also as a part of a larger movement is subject to
participative and discursive culture (just take this very discussion as an
example: a very hierarchical and non-participative ED would find it
difficult to understand why we are even having it).

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community survey to support the WMF ED search starts right now

2016-06-05 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
On Sun, Jun 5, 2016 at 5:07 PM, Nikola Kalchev 
wrote:

> Dariusz, thank you for your clarification. I understand that translations
> take time.
>
> Would you please elaborate on the assumption that the most important
> principle of the ED search committee was speed and not, e.g. participation
> of a larger part of the community? What would the bad effects of a 2 months
> longer search on the WMF be?
>

The assumption is that any organization under an interim leader is
basically frozen. An interim leader is unlikely to make any change. Also,
one of the gripes of the past was a long (way over a year) process of ED
searching. The ED search team wants to avoid repeating this.




>
> I fear that user groups will be underrepresented again (another notable
> example is the number of representatives at the WMCON with chapters having
> up to four participants and user groups exactly one). There are 59 user
> groups and (as well as I could count) only 10 of them will be able to
> participate at the survey in their own language. Why was the opinion of 49
> user groups considered less worth that a delay of two months?
>

I think the main assumption may have been that there will be decreasing
differences - that is, the differences between the views expressed in the
10 major languages will not be big in general. Of course, we will see
whether there are significant differences within these 10.



On Sun, Jun 5, 2016 at 5:16 PM, Yaroslav M. Blanter 
 wrote:

> Whereas I fully understand and partially share the sentiment, may I please
> repeat the question I asked on this list in relation to a similar topic
> some time ago. Could we estimate a number of active community members (whom
> we would reasonably expect to participate in the survey) who do not speak
> any of the languages to which the survey was translated, to the point that
> their ability to fill in the survey would depend on the others? If this is
> a considerable number, or if it is less significant but considerably
> compromises on the representation, which languages do these community
> members speak?
>
>
Yaroslav's question is a good one - I don't know from the top of my head
how to estimate this easily. However, let me repeat: we are asking general
questions, and the results are not binding. It is not an issue of
representation. I doubt if there will be huge cultural differences to the
extent that the questionnaire would bring different results if 10 more
languages were added, mainly because I think that wiki-world is quite
hermetic and has a culture of its own.


cheers,

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community survey to support the WMF ED search starts right now

2016-06-05 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
of
> > > > editors from various languages have been invited to participate and
> we
> > > are
> > > > also sending an invitations to anyone here and through our networks.
> > > Please
> > > > participate in the survey and help us to shape the new ED’s profile.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > I read here [1] that the survey will be open for 1 week.
> > >
> > > Does that mean it will be open until June 8 (inclusive)?
> > >
> > > Saludos,
> > > Luis Sanabria
> > >
> > > [1]
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Executive_Director_Transition_Team/2016/Updates/CW20_update
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community survey to support the WMF ED search starts right now

2016-06-03 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 5:56 PM, Luis Villa  wrote:

>
> I would love to see a solid and rigorous hiring process that lends
> credibility to the eventual selection. Has the board done an analysis of
> the previous hiring process to help ensure that the new process will be
> solid and rigorous?
>

We have identified the things we believe need to be done differently, yes.

This time, we're relying on a small, dedicated, NGO-focused organization,
we have an ED search team including staff members (and me, hopefully
counting as the community), as well as a process which involves
staff feedback (through the on-going survey - which, btw, is run
only on major projects, which is a shame, but in the same time the search
team felt the need for urgency... on of the things to watch for in the post
mortem, surely).

dj
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thoughts on WMF Governance reviews

2016-06-02 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
thanks for this! A useful food for thought (for transparency: mid-May I
started a conversation with Chris about how the process worked in the UK).

best,

dj

On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 8:02 AM, Chris Keating <chriskeatingw...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Just wanted to post some thoughts on the subject of the WMF having an
> external governance review/audit. As you may know the FDC recommended that
> the WMF should do this and I imagine the WMF board is thinking about the
> matter at the moment. I was Chair of Wikimedia UK when we undertook our
> governance review in autumn 2012 so hope my perspective is useful.
>
> On balance I think an appropriately-defined governance audit, conducted by
> the right people, would be helpful for WMF and the community but here are
> some pros and cons.
>
> *Reasons against  *
> 1. Cost. At a minimum, an audit would cost $20,000 - if done very
> efficiently in a light-touch way. An extensive review could cost several
> times that much. Anyone who you'd want to do the work would have a day rate
> of $1000+ for top-level consultants and $500+ for other people involved.
> 2. Governance reviewers won't solve any of the "Wikimedia-specific"
> problems. Hopefully whoever would be appointed would have experience of
> working with boards of volunteer-based movements not just 'conventional'
> non-profits. However, Wikimedia levels of transparency will still be
> unusual for them and governance consultants are very unlikely to recommend
> or support (say) live-streaming board meetings to increase transparency, or
> making community-elected trustees unsackable without a referendum of some
> kind.
> 3. Progress already made. The WMF Board has already introduced a number of
> key policies, e.g. a code of conduct. If those have already addressed some
> of the key issues then an external review will have less to say.
> 4. Risk of getting unfocused answers. There is a risk with this kind of
> review of getting lots of detailed comments on various policies and
> documents that don't actually have an impact. However, this can be avoided
> with a well-defined brief.
>
> *Reasons to do it*
> 1. Feedback on Board behaviour. A reviewer will probably interview Board
> members and senior staff, and attend a meeting, as well as reviewing
> documents and policies. As a result they will be able to observe the actual
> behaviour of the board. That is unique (and hopefully helpful) feedback.
> 2. Reassurance. From November to January, a lot of people (including many
> WMF staff and community members) were confused and concerned (to put it
> mildly) about what was happening at WMF board level. (Probably there were
> also people *on the WMF board* sharing the same concerns). Many of those
> people are still concerned to varying degrees. An external review that says
> "actually, most of this is working fine now but you can improve X, Y and Z"
> is valuable reassurance for the whole community. If, on the other hand, the
> review says "actually there are some serious issues that still need to be
> sorted out" then much better that the Board realises that and acts on it in
> the next couple of months than waiting another year or two and running into
> the same problems again.
> 3. The amount of change that's happened lately. The WMF has grown immensely
> in the last 10 years and has had very high turnover on the Board in the
> last 2. Some of the ways of working that have grown up in those 10 years
> may not be right, and some of those that were right might no longer be in
> the Board's institutional knowledge. If I were in the shoes of one of the
> newer WMF trustees I would think that an external governance review was a
> very helpful step in making sure that the Board was working as effectively
> as possible.
>
> Regards,
>
> Chris Keating
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community survey to support the WMF ED search starts right now

2016-06-01 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 5:36 PM, James Salsman  wrote:

>
> Can we at least get confirmation that her performance working at the
> Foundation will be appropriately weighted in her favor if we do have
> another lengthy, expensive, third-party search?
>

I believe it is always only reasonable to account for someone's intimate
understanding of organizational culture, as well as to recognize one's good
performance hands on.

However, I think that the process should be wide and open - whoever becomes
the permanent ED, should really be the best choice, not just because of the
incumbent advantage. The solid and rigorous recruitment process will add
credibility and legitimacy to whoever this person eventually is.

dariusz
(Board and the ED search committee member, but speaking just on my own
behalf)
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community survey to support the WMF ED search starts right now

2016-06-01 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
hi James,

thanks for your input. One of the reasons for the survey is asking the
community what they think about the key qualities. I think it is quite
likely a more effective way of getting a wider input than discussing it on
the list. One of the questions in the questionnaire is, for instance, the
value one sees in the candidate having a WMF experience.

best,

dj

On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 5:32 AM, James Heilman <jmh...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks Alice
>
> IMO we need someone who understands our movements values, that understands
> that we are a movement, and sees themselves not as a decider and visionary
> but as a facilitator. Our movement has no lack of excellent ideas but does
> not always communicate effectively within itself.
>
> As such we need someone who has excellent communication and people skills.
> Technical skills can be hired for at other levels of the organization while
> people skill cannot typically be taught.
>
> Katherine, our current interim ED, appears to have these qualities. If she
> is interesting in taking on the position long term I would hope her
> candidacy is given serious consideration by the board.
>
> James
>
> On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 12:29 AM, Alice Wiegand <awieg...@wikimedia.org>
> wrote:
>
> > Hello all,
> >
> > The ED search steering group has been soliciting input for a few weeks,
> and
> > while a few people were fairly vocal about what they were looking for in
> a
> > new ED, we decided that we needed more input from a broader range of
> people
> > and we want to hear more from our emerging communities. To that end, we
> > have written and published a survey [1] intended to help us both validate
> > and prioritize the good feedback we have already received.
> >
> > Our survey is currently open in the top 10 wiki languages. A sample of
> > editors from various languages have been invited to participate and we
> are
> > also sending an invitations to anyone here and through our networks.
> Please
> > participate in the survey and help us to shape the new ED’s profile.
> >
> > On behalf of the ED search steering group
> >
> > Alice.
> >
> >
> > [1] - ED Search Survey:
> > https://wikimedia.qualtrics.com/SE/?SID=SV_5hVS2mJTcJNCxBX
> >
> >
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Pacific Standard:
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Motherboard: http://motherboard.vice.com/read/an-ethnography-of-wikipedia
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] April 2016 minutes for the Board of Trustees

2016-05-25 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
hi,

On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 5:12 PM, Ben Creasy  wrote:

> Last month, "Geoff and Stephen prepared a draft set of basic best-practice
> recommendations [on governance]". These weren't released publicly as far
> as I
> am aware. "Maria and Dariusz were tasked with preparing a proposal for a
> lightweight structure to increase transparency" but as far as I am aware
> we've
> received no color on what this proposal might end up looking like. Someone
> on
> this list asked Dariuszand he declined to offer details; if I recall
> correctly
> he said the boardshoulddo what it can internally first. I disagree with
> this:
> if you do a bunch of work without consulting your stakeholders, there's a
> good
> chance you'llhave to scrap all that work. In the software world we call
> early
> feedback from the stakeholders "Agile", and it is widely viewed as a
> superior
> process to long efforts without feedback.
>

I generally agree with the principle of consulting first, it is just that I
believe that in our efforts to increase transparency we do not necessarily
have to work on all-encompassing and mutually exclusive initiatives, but
rather add modules and alements to the system. The reason why I suggested
slight delay is also that our ideas will be soon published (we're currently
voting the minutes from May meeting). I definitely do not perceive our
initiative as the end of discussion about transparency, but rather a
beginning.

I've personally also had a feeling of urgency that we need to start working
on increasing transparency (even if through an imperfect way) rather than
await community consultations. I just believe that the community
conversation is unlikely to scrap all of that work, but rather improve it.

In principle, I would hope that the Board should accept a policy in which
the content of our discussion is public, unless needed otherwise. As a
person coming from a different cultural background I care much more about
the actual practices of communicating within our community, than the
procedures and policies, although I am well aware that the latter have some
influence on the former.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] governance improvements

2016-05-15 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
On Sun, May 15, 2016 at 12:19 PM, Chris Keating 
wrote:

> * Does your discussion on Monday include the Code of Conduct and
> Confidentiality Agreement mentioned in the March minutes?
>

Actually, we have discussed and voted on them in April (minutes are in the
process of being approved).


> * Have you considered inviting community comment on these before finally
> adopting them?
>

We felt the need to make some amendments soon, but they are not written in
stone - I anticipate that, depending on needs, we may enter a process of
reviewing them in a wider process.



> * A number of community members have mentioned the idea of a formal review
> of WMF governance. In my experience these can be quite helpful* - has the
> WMF board considered this option?
>

We have not discussed this yet, but I will bring this proposal up at
Wikimania latest. Every organization occasionally can make good use of
governance review and consultation. It would be important to choose a good
advising organization (experienced in NGOs, as well as optimally in large
social movements and open source organizations). Speaking just for myself
and expressing my own opinion only, I think that the Board is quite open to
improvements, and the time for external suggestions is usally best exactly
after the body itself has done as much as it could on their own.

best,

dariusz
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] governance improvements

2016-05-15 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
On Sun, May 15, 2016 at 11:59 AM, Gerard Meijssen  wrote:

> Hoi,
> I wonder what you mean by doing better. Are you doing your best given the
> circumstances? If so you do what can be expected of you. When people think
> that is not enough, it is their problem. They are not in the same position
> and have no genuine grasp what the situation is.
>

I mean that I believe in continuous improvement, and always trying to do
better.



>
> In the way that your inform about the issues you are dealing with it is
> obvious that a lot of consultation is taking place. It is why I am happy
> with your effort. I dare anyone to do better and be a candidate for the
> next elections.Only people who bring positive suggestions at this time are
> likely to have a positive impact when they are elected.
>
> Dariusz, thank you for doing your job. Thank you for all the effort that
> goes into making a positive difference.
>

Many thanks, I really appreciate it! It makes this work worthwhile :) All
the best from the FDC deliberations...

dj
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[Wikimedia-l] governance improvements

2016-05-15 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
hi,

I'm just writing to give you a short report on how the Board is working on
improving its governance and communication.

In March <http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Minutes/2016-03>[1], Kelly
and I conducted an internal survey about our governance, preferences,
vision on how it can be improved. Geoff and Stephen (from our legal team)
have prepared a number of recommendations, based on the governance best
practices.

Currently, Maria and I are working on a proposal to the Board, that will be
discussed on Monday[
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_board_agenda_2016-05>2],
and that will address many of the issues that have been raised recently
about timely communication, the level of detail in reporting, as well as
transparency.

Following our discussions in Berlin, we're going to expand our onboarding
process for external/expert Board members. Apart from our regular
onboarding (which includes legal training, mentoring from senior Board
members, and for expert members - talking to people from the community, as
well as selected readings about wiki-culture), we are going to introduce a
short workshop, focusing on the most important things a person coming from
the outside should know.

I ran a short poll/discussion with the community
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Board_Governance_Committee/Wikimania_2016_training>[3]
on meta, to decide about the most important topics. "Copyright, copyleft
and everything in between" as well as "Values and community dynamics of a
global movement" have been selected.

Guy and Kelly are really interested and looking forward to participating in
the workshop at Wikimania, which will be also open to staff members. I've
been in touch with Ginevra and Lorenzo, who have graciously volunteered to run
the workshop
<https://wikimania2016.wikimedia.org/wiki/Training_sessions/Proposals/Wikimedia_Movement_Culture_workshop>[4],
possibly with some help from Asaf.

We are working quite hard on many fronts: the new ED search, the vacant
seats' fulfilment, internal governance improvements, communication,
onboarding processes, apart from our usual load. We still can do better,
and I hope we are on a right path.

best,

Dariusz Jemielniak, "pundit"
(a current WMF Trustee)


[1] https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Minutes/2016-03
[2]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_board_agenda_2016-05
[3]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Board_Governance_Committee/Wikimania_2016_training
 [4]
https://wikimania2016.wikimedia.org/wiki/Training_sessions/Proposals/Wikimedia_Movement_Culture_workshop
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Board meeting minutes

2016-05-10 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 5:10 PM, Rogol Domedonfors 
wrote:

> I can see no reason for this failure.  We know that the Board is busy, but
> it is a legal requirement that the minutes be drawn up and discussed, so
> that publication is or should be a matter of very little effort, and a part
> of normal operating procedure for the Board's administrative support.  I
> suggest that this is the very time at which the Board should be taking
> extra pains to engage with the Community, and involve them in its planning
> and other activities.  Instead, we have what appears to be a conscious and
> deliberate snub.


The issue of minutes is already scheduled to be discussed as an item
proposed as one of the governance improvements. I realize how deeply ironic
it sounds, since you can't know that, because the agenda is not published
significantly ahead of time, but just FYI (and to immediately address your
valid concern).

dj
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Account of the events leading to James Heilman's removal

2016-05-08 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
As some of you may remember, I was the only trustee who voted against
James' removal except himself.

Nevertheless, I still believe that any functioning body as our Board has to
have the right to expel a person, whom they feel like not being able to
work with.

If a majority of my fellow Board members cannot stand me for whatever
reason (including the ones I'd find absurd), that's pretty much it. The
Board has to be able to function with trust, delegation, and a certain
rapport.

As long as such cases are really very rare,  I don't think there needs to
be much change from our process. Practically, I don't see how the community
could be involved - after all, if a majority of some Board just cannot
stand a person or there is a generalized mistrust, there is not much that
external insight will change.

However, we need a better process for dealing with vacant community seats
for sure. Also, I think it would be fair to always give written reasons to
removed members (also to discipline the reasoning of the Board that makes
such a drastic decision). About "for cause" or not, I have no opinion, as
it is the American legalese I am not and will not be fully proficient in.

Dariusz
08.05.2016 3:02 PM "James Heilman"  napisał(a):

> I agree there needs to be a way to remove trustees, but IMO for community
> elected trustees there needs to be community involvement in the process.
> Also the ability to remove trustees "without cause" should be rescinded.
>
> J
>
> On Sun, May 8, 2016 at 12:38 PM, Chris Keating  >
> wrote:
>
> > > Second, the Board needs to resolve never to remove a community trustee
> > > except by a successful recall referendum to the community. The Board
> > should
> > > never, under any circumstances, remove a community trustee without
> > consent
> > > of the community that elected them.
> > Are you sure about this?
> >
> > Whatever the rights and wrongs of the situation with James, I think it's
> a
> > hostage to fortune.
> >
> > If there were a seriously dysfunctional trustee in future then this would
> > amplify the damage they could do quite a bit, by making them unsackable.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Chris
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Account of the events leading to James Heilman's removal

2016-05-06 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
04.05.2016 22:00 "Katie Horn"  napisał(a):

>
> Either way, I would be deeply encouraged to see progress in creating a
more
> robust and predictable connection between the board and WMF staff. Whether
> that connection ends up being a board liaison or something else, I suspect
> that well-established lines of communication would go a very long way
> toward eliminating the possibility that large numbers of staff will feel
> like they have to disassemble the whistleblower policy in the first place.

A conversation on how to address (a) connection with the staff and (b)
revise the whistleblower policy has started and we will try to address both
of these issues in the near future.
Best,

Dj

>
> -Katie
>
> On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 6:10 PM, Tim Starling 
> wrote:
>
> > On 04/05/16 12:02, MZMcBride wrote:
> > > https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Whistleblower_policy
> > >
> > > You mention anonymous complaints and serious concerns, but the current
> > > whistleblower policy seems to be pretty clear that it only applies to
> > > laws, rules, and regulations. The text of the policy indicates, to me
at
> > > least, that even alleged violations of other Wikimedia Foundation
> > policies
> > > would not be covered by the whistleblower policy. Would you extend the
> > > Wikimedia Foundation whistleblower policy to cover regular (i.e.,
> > > non-legal and non-regulatory) grievances?
> >
> > The third and fourth paragraphs are not so narrow, but otherwise, yes,
> > I think it should be extended.
> >
> > > My understanding is that the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees
> > sought
> > > out and then appointed a tech-minded chief executive, who came from a
> > tech
> > > organization, in order to "transform" the Wikimedia Foundation from an
> > > educational non-profit to be more like a traditional tech company.
Many
> > > employees of the Wikimedia Foundation disagreed with this decision and
> > the
> > > chief executive made a series of poor hires who ran amok (looking at
you,
> > > Damon), but I don't think anything rose to the level of illegal
behavior.
> >
> > You are just regurgitating Lila's email. No transformation was
> > attempted or executed. The first time I heard about this supposed
> > conflict over strategy was when Lila posted her claims about it to
> > this list, shortly before her resignation.
> >
> > In fact, employees disagreed with Lila's decision to pursue large
> > restricted grants for a stupid pet project, in secret, supported by
> > almost nobody, without Board knowledge let alone approval. This has
> > nothing to do with education versus technology (if such a dichotomy
> > can even be said to exist).
> >
> > Damon merely suggested the project in question, he did not "run amok".
> >
> > -- Tim Starling
> >
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Account of the events leading to James Heilman's removal

2016-05-04 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 3:43 PM, Jake Orlowitz  wrote:

> 2) The whistleblower policy was indeed insufficient because even very
> serious ethical complaints raised did not rise to the level of strict
> illegality.
>

without referring to issues in the past, I think that a constructive way to
improve our governance would be to consider how our policies (including the
whistleblower policy) are adequate for all possible scenarios organizations
of our size and type may encounter.

One of the things that I personally would definitely like to discuss and
consider would be the staff liaison to the Board, present at the Board
meetings to some extent.

best,

dj

("pundit", current trustee)
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] election for 2 seats on WMF board of trustees ends May 7...

2016-05-03 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 11:08 AM, Itzik - Wikimedia Israel <
it...@wikimedia.org.il> wrote:

> I'm against publishing the chapters votes before the end of the elections.
> More than that - I even offered before the election started that the
> chapters votes will be confidential between them and be collected by
> the moderators.
>
> I believe that each chapter needs to vote as he think, not be looking on
> others votes and decide by the way the wind's blowing. This is the way most
> elections are done.
>
> After the election, I don't have problem that the chapters votes will be
> publish publicly.
>
>
Itzik, just for clarity - I think Lane suggested that it would be optimal
to release the information WHO voted (to enable encouraging those who have
not), rather than HOW they voted.

dj
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Crisis of Confidence

2016-05-02 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
On Mon, May 2, 2016 at 9:48 AM, Fæ  wrote:

> Your email fits perfectly with my description of the WMF board: "have
> not apologized or even changed a single part of their governance
> processes, despite vague unmeasurable offers to look into it."


I'm not sure if it is typical for the bodies such as Board to issue
official apologies - but for my part, I definitely apologize for all
shortcomings of the procedure I've been involved in, mistakes in oversight,
etc.



> After
> many months there is no *commitment* to a date for any change to
> governance,


Again, you seem not to have noticed that we nearly immediately amended the
recruitment procedure in a way that will make repeating a mistake unlikely.



> nor is there any specific or measurable commitment to what
> the goal is for an "open conversation" or how that works.


How governance works? In fact, it would be nice to have this conversation
as well, sure. The problem is that there are multiple demands from the
community, and there are also external needs for the Board to address.
We're out of bandwidth. Is the governance talk top priority now? Maybe. But
I'm not convinced that it is more important than the ED search, or the
expert seat fulfilment, or comments on strategy/plan, better enculturation
and on-boarding of external Board members, and so on.



> Knowing the
> history of the WMF board, there will no doubt be a pre-prepared policy
> or process and it will be implemented with barely any regard for
> community views which will be "canvassed" after the fact as a sop to
> "consensus".
>

Well, not engaging with a person who clearly assumes extremely bad faith is
a privilege I'm going to exercise. Feel free to keep on writing of course,
just excuse me for not getting involved in replies to you in this thread
for a while.



> Am I right that you were the chair of the governance committee
>
responsible for recommending Arnnon to the board and that you are
> still in that position? Why are you still involved in the governance
> process if you were responsible for this huge mistake and the
> resulting PR disaster for the WMF and Arnnon?
>

You are correct - the BGC recommended Arnnon, and I personally had not
found about the controversy when I was reviewing his files. I stated this
on the list, admitted the mistake, as well as tried to understand and
explain how it happened. I also proposed the changes to the future
recruitment process, which have been introduced.

My understanding is that I'm still in this position, as the Board has
assumed that this mistake was systematic, not personal. However, I am not
tied to my seat, or to my presence on the Board. If the community recalls
me, I will step down from either the BGC or the Board in general.

cheers,

dj
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Crisis of Confidence

2016-05-02 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
02.05.2016 5:22 AM "Fæ"  napisał(a):
>
> Perhaps we could stick to facts?
>
> In the very recent case of Arnnon Geshuri, the WMF board of trustees
> proved themselves to be completely out of touch with the
> community.[1][2] 314 Wikimedians took part in the vote of no
> confidence, hardly just "malcontents", and 95% of those that took part
> voted directly against the stated position of the board, who still
> remain happy with their decision to keep Geshuri as trustee,

You must have missed the announcement that he stepped down from the Board.

and have
> not apologized or even changed a single part of their governance
> processes, despite vague unmeasurable offers to look into it.
>

I posted three items that we're changing in the future recruitment process
quite quickly. Currently we have an ongoing discussion on how to reform the
Board composition, and I hope we will be able to have an open conversation
about these ideas soon (read: before Wikimania).

I'm sure that some people would like the WMF to be more like a Telekom. I
don't think that corporate standards and procedures are the answer, and I
really would like the WMF to be what it was meant to be: a mission-driven,
knowledge organization in NGO/open-source environment, run by passionate
employees in a strong, community- and staff- friendly culture, that
delivers visionary results.

We're far from there yet, but following Telekom standards is not the
answer. The WMF should improve by all means, and it also should be more
accountable - but this is why this year it returns to the FDC process
(which has been one of my priorities to increase communal control), and
that should provide sensible community's feedback.

Dj
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[Wikimedia-l] [wikimedia] Wikimania training for external Board members

2016-04-29 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
hi,

within the Board Governance Committee, we have discussed several areas for
improvement of the Board members skills. One of the areas we should cover
is deeper enculturation of external Board members.

Both Guy and Kelly are excited to be part of Wikimedia movement, and they
want to learn more. I've set up this page:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Board_Governance_Committee/Wikimania_2016_training

to start a community discussion of what topics should be covered first
(during a short workshop at Wikimania, that both Guy and Kelly will be
delighted to participate in), as well as who would be volunteering to run
them.

Please, comment on meta!

best,

dariusz
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Wikimedia Foundation ED search steering group created

2016-04-18 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 6:43 AM, Joseph Seddon 
wrote:

> Does Dariusz as a community selected board member not count?
>
>
I would certainly hope that people DO approach me with ideas, and I am
definitely very open to the discussion within the community.

dj
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [FDC] Wikimédia France Annual Plan Grant - 2015-2016 R2

2016-03-25 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
hi Emeric,

I think it is a good way of engaging with the community and setting a good
example, that all organizations in the movement, including the WMF, can get
inspired by!

best,

dj

On Fri, Mar 25, 2016 at 9:44 AM, Emeric Vallespi <
emeric.valle...@wikimedia.fr> wrote:

> Dear Wikimedians,
>
> Since 2 years, Wikimédia France provides its "APG" proposal in advance on
> meta, even if some parts are still in progress and other require
> improvements.
>
> You'll find our proposal for the 2015-2016 Round 2 here:
>
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:APG/Proposals/2015-2016_round2/Wikimédia_France/Proposal_form
>
> Our staff and volunteers are still working on the document. However, we
> publish it in advance to allow your feedback and proofread.
> If you want to help on these topics: you can fix minor errors, let us know
> if you noticed mistake(s), ask for clarification or suggest improvement(s).
> We'll do our best to implement your feedbacks and improve the proposal
> before the deadline, which is Friday 1st April.
>
> Moreover, if you have any questions about our programs for next year,
> please, ask :)
>
> Thanks to anyone who will help us to improve our proposal.
>
> Warmest regards,
> --
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> Vice President
>
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Pacific Standard:
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Motherboard: http://motherboard.vice.com/read/an-ethnography-of-wikipedia
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Open and recorded WMF Board meetings

2016-03-03 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 12:07 PM, Andrew Lih  wrote:

>
> I’d be eager to try this idea of observers/scribes from the community,
> with the slight amendment that I don’t think it *needs* to be a different
> person every time, though it should certainly be open to participation as
> much as possible. I’d also like for it to be open to folks from “the media”
> of our community, such as The Signpost.
>
> -
>

the reason why I think it would be good to rotate this person is that it
would allow to assure not getting into the Board's logic too much. If the
Board ever slides into group-think, this would be a safety valve.

dj
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Armenia candidate for the board

2016-03-03 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
> > my opinion you are harming the people in the movement and its mission.
> > >
> > > Cristian
> > >
> > > [1]
> > >
> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants_talk:APG/Proposals/2014-2015_ro
> > und2/Wikimedia_Armenia/Proposal_form#Praise_and_one_question
> > > [2]
> > >
> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:APG/FDC_recommendations/2014-20
> > 15_round_2#Wikimedia_Armenia
> > >
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Open and recorded WMF Board meetings

2016-03-03 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 10:00 AM, Risker  wrote:

>
>>
> "Responsible for reviewing the minutes".  This is a lovely ideal. Can we
> now be realistic?  What do we really expect that "observer" to do?  Will
> they have input in to what the minutes finally say? Do they have approval
> authority (i.e., do they get to vote on the acceptance of the minutes)?
> I'm not opposed to community members observing board meetings - I suspect
> many people will find them to be unexpectedly boring, with less substantive
> discussion than many would expect - but the objective should be a lot more
> clear.  What about if they genuinely believe that the minutes (which most
> of us would recognize as having been written using a template) don't
> reflect or emphasize what the observer thinks were the key issues?  Do they
> get to put forward publicly their own version of what happened or what they
> observed?  Are they going to be permitted to observe the "executive
> session", where even the WMF staff are out of the room?  I am fine with the
> general concept, but I don't think either the board or the community has
> really thought through the entire process.  We should get it pretty much
> nailed down before it is implemented.
>
> Minute-taking is a skill - just as is writing a featured article or
> creating a featured image. Those who think it's an easy task that should be
> able to be done practically after the meeting is over tend to have no real
> experience with writing and managing minutes at the international
> non-profit board level and may not fully understand why it it is important
> that they are correct before they're published.  Publicly presenting an
> early, uncorrected draft will lead to nothing but tears, but there are 9
> board members (plus individual presenters) who have to read, correct and
> approve [sections of] the minutes.  The WMF Board is not and should not be
> the most important person in the lives of any of our board members.
>
>

hi Anne,

I appreciate your criticism, it definitely helps to shoot down ideas early,
before they can mature ;) What I'm getting at is trying to find a sensible
form of addressing the community's concerns without making the whole Board
meetings public (I don't think it is impossible, I basically think that it
would entirely change the dynamics of the meetings - there would be an
incentive for the community-elected members to speak up to gain political
support, for example; this idea calls for just as much shredding apart as
the "observer" one).

The observer I have in mind would not be responsible for taking the minutes
(as you've pointed out, it is a skill), but reviewing them. Anyhow, it is
just an ad-hoc idea that I think could be refined, if it was perceived as
addressing the problem of the Board meetings being overly cryptic and
secretive for the general public.

dj
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Open and recorded WMF Board meetings

2016-03-03 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 9:15 AM, Risker <risker...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> For the WMF board, we throw in the additional complexity of having a large
> part of the board working in a non-primary language. This should not be
> discounted as an issue; it is actually one of the bigger factors that board
> communications needs to deal with.
>
> I would love for the board to be able to complete and approve their meeting
> minutes within a few weeks. I understand why they have a hard time.
>

Thanks. I think one idea would be to e.g. invite a community representative
to each meeting as an observer, responsible for reviewing the minutes. This
would always be a different person, and by design it could be e.g. always a
former board/FDC member, or chapter representative, or former arbiter from
wikis that have arbiters, or a steward - anyhow, someone who is legitimized
without the need to organize yet another elections.

To reduce costs, this person could be connecting via Hangout, but physical
presence would also be an option. We could ask this person their views, but
they would mostly be an observer.

dj




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kierownik katedry Zarządzania Międzynarodowego
i grupy badawczej NeRDS
Akademia Leona Koźmińskiego
http://n <http://www.crow.alk.edu.pl/>wrds.kozminski.edu.pl

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członek Komitetu Polityki Naukowej MNiSW

Wyszła pierwsza na świecie etnografia Wikipedii "Common Knowledge? An
Ethnography of Wikipedia" (2014, Stanford University Press) mojego
autorstwa http://www.sup.org/book.cgi?id=24010

Recenzje
Forbes: http://www.forbes.com/fdc/welcome_mjx.shtml
Pacific Standard:
http://www.psmag.com/navigation/books-and-culture/killed-wikipedia-93777/
Motherboard: http://motherboard.vice.com/read/an-ethnography-of-wikipedia
The Wikipedian:
http://thewikipedian.net/2014/10/10/dariusz-jemielniak-common-knowledge
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Meeting in Berlin (was: Executive transition planning)

2016-03-01 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
Hi,

Since the whole Board is in heavy overload right now, I'm writing basically
to acknowledge this proposal and thank for it. Since I've been discussing
the WMDE governance with its Board in the past, I think there are
definitely useful learning points, and it is great that you take this
initiative. The major obstacle is timing and bandwidth. Still, we
definitely should discuss governance in Berlin.
29.02.2016 10:19 "Tim Moritz Hector" 
napisał(a):

> Dear fellow Wikimedians,
>
> I have been closely following the developments of the previous weeks. A lot
> of things have been said, concerns and frustration have been raised, hope
> has been voiced, and many many questions have been brought up. It’s hard to
> keep up with all the voices on all the different digital channels these
> days, and hard to find solutions and agreement in an unfacilitated stream.
>
> The first chance for many of us to personally meet, vent, and look ahead
> will be the the Wikimedia Conference in Berlin. Wikimedia Deutschland is
> hosting the event, and welcoming movement affiliates, committees and board
> and staff of the Wikimedia Foundation from April 20-24.
>
> The movement is standing at a crossroad, but I am confident we can find the
> best path if we work together. Wikimedia Deutschland has gone through
> turbulent times in the past as well, and we would like to offer our
> experience and full support as host and facilitator of an essential part of
> this process. With your participation and contribution, Wikimedia
> Conference can be a platform for exchange and progress.
>
> Let us use this opportunity to jointly figure out how we want to move
> forward as a network of partners. The conference is the ideal platform to
> discuss and define next steps to find answers to questions like: How do we
> imagine a movement striving for free knowledge and what structure and
> framework best serve these needs? How do the WMF and affiliates define
> their role and responsibilities on a global and local level? How shall an
> revamped search process for a new executive leadership of the WMF look
> like, and what are the main qualifications new candidates should bring? How
> will the strategy process for the WMF evolve and how can affiliates
> contribute? How do we involve our stakeholders from within and outside of
> the movement in this process? How do we manage to look ahead rather than
> repeating the old narratives?  How do we create consensus on all these
> questions?
>
> In light of the current situation, we would like to dedicate a whole
> conference track to these issues. Of course, the initial conference topics
> of impact and capacity building are still important and will be covered as
> well.
>
> We have set up a page on meta and encourage you to share your questions,
> ideas, and concerns[1]. We intend to work closely with WMF and affiliate
> representatives in the coming eight weeks and create the program along
> their input.
>
> Looking forward to seeing you in Berlin in April,
> Tim Moritz Hector
>
> [1]
>
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Conference_2016/Program_Design_Process/Track
> :
> How to move forward
>
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>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Open letter: Issues needing addressing by the Wikimedia Foundation's Board of Trustees

2016-02-29 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 10:55 AM, Andreas Kolbe  wrote:

> Here is what I don't understand: both Dariusz and James have said that they
> pushed hard for transparency and community engagement about the project at
> that time, and expressed concern that there hadn't been any. Do you not
> remember that? Yet nothing happened.
>

My recollection is that we were given a plausible explanation that all the
big visions and brainstorming never went into production. Yes, there were
ideas floating around, but they did not go anywhere.

This is why James motioned to approve the grant, as I understand. I don't
think either of us would support the grant if we were unconvinced at the
time. We did, however, insist that any work going outside of the simple
"improve internal search" scope should be consulted.

My personal view is also that we need to be careful not to commit any
resource in the future by agreeing on some relatively small grants in the
present.




> If they were in favour, and you were in favour, why didn't it happen? Who
> resisted?
>

I don't think that anyone resisted - we basically came to an understanding
that the grant was not a big project, and that while there may have been
grand(iose) visions about it, they never materialized to the level that
would require board or community involvement.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] I am going to San Francisco

2016-02-29 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 10:00 AM, Andreas Kolbe  wrote:

> Do you believe the various non-disclosure agreements and non-disparagement
> clauses that staff have to sign to work at the WMF should be public? Will
> you encourage staff to share their content, in the interests of
> transparency?
>
>
There are different ways to perceive the WMF and different benchmarks to
relate to.  If we perceive the WMF as a Silicon Valley, high-tech
organization, that just happens to be organized as an NGO, and is
contemporarily relying on an open collaboration in a community of editors
(until the machines can substitute them), then surely good benchmarks will
be other Silicon Valley organizations, and using the industry standard
non-disclosure and non-disparagement agreements make sense.

I believe that we are something else. We are a social movement, and the WMF
is a mission-driven NGO, that has its top competence in supporting the open
knowledge community, and happens to be pretty good at legal and tech
support, too. But tech has a supportive, not leading role. We,
theoretically, could outsource a lot of tech, but we could not outsource a
lot of community work.

Therefore I believe that better benchmarks would be other rights- and
access-oriented NGOs (Amnesty International? Soros Foundation?), F/L/OSS
movement (Apache Foundation? EFF?), and universities (Oxford? Harvard?
Sorbonne?). By understanding these benchmarks, we can build adequate
standards of transparency, and follow suit in legalese. I believe that a
lot of our current tensions stem basically from not formulating the
fundamental vision of who we are and who we want to be.

dj
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement representation vs WMF board reform

2016-02-28 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 11:30 AM, Ad Huikeshoven  wrote:

> B) Another way would be to use securepoll to (s)elect a number of people in
> a specific country by active editors in that country to accept certain
> representative roles, for example in two way communication between
> foundation and community about technology changes, but also to oversee
> processes to recruit new editors and onboard them. I imagine a (s)election
> process like the (s)election of community (s)elected BoT members, however
> with voters restricted to editors who are active in that country based on
> geo-ip. Maybe some countries are so big, that it would be wiser to do this
> at state level.
>
>
yup, that's effectively the idea of volunteer community liaisons
, I've been trying to
discuss for a while (in Mexico, Luis was quite receptive, but
understandably in the following months the idea did not receive the highest
priority).

dj
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] What it means to be a high-tech organization

2016-02-28 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 10:18 AM, Yaroslav M. Blanter 
wrote:

> Actually, in the facebook discussion which was earlier referenced on this
> list someone noticed (unfortunately, without much impact) that WMF is not a
> business company and not a high-tech company, but more like a culture/
> educational institution.


As stated on a number of occasions, I whole-heartedly agree with this
approach. It is also logical from strategic management point of view: our
core competitive advantage is the ability to engage with the knowledge
communities around ideas (we are the best in the world at that), and not
developing tech (we're good, but we're no match for Google, 3M, or Facebook
here). We should realize that as the vision of the WMF as predominantly a
high-tech organization is really dangerous.

We COULD outsource most of our tech (I'm not supporting this, I'm just
giving perspective). We COULD NOT outsource the community support.



> A direct consequence would be that one should think again whether San
> Francisco is the best location for the WMF office, rather than a place
> better known for culture and education and less for proximity to Silicon
> Valley. Boston was named in the same discussion.


If we were choosing a location from the scratch - definitely. As it is now,
I think that relocating would involve really huge intangible costs for our
staff, and our staff is our unique asset. I would be cautious to rush any
changes in this respect.

dj
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Transition plans for WMF leadership - Board Reform

2016-02-25 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 10:43 AM, Milos Rancic  wrote:

> Thus, not the senate, but assembly is the right form of our
> organization: assembly which would select *paid* Board members.
> Besides the load, I want Board members to be accountable to
> Wikimedians, not to the for-profit or non-profit entities which give
> them money.
>

I am not, and have not been employed by any Wikimedia organization.


>
> Yes, it's scary to be accountable to people you lead. I completely
> understand that.
>

I have no idea where you get this idea from in my letter. I am not scared
to be accountable to people I lead, and I hope I have stated my readiness
in this department clearly.


>
> The costs of having 100 people assembly won't be significant at all.
> First of all, the most of the people in such large body would be
> anyways mostly consisted of those going to Wikimedia Conference and
> Wikimania. If you really care about money, scale the initial body to
> 40-50 and ask all chapters that sending three or more people to those
> conferences to contribute expenses for one to such body. If you put
> that way, the costs could rise up to ~5%, if they raise at all.
>

If you envisage a large, 100 people assembly during Wikimania or Wikimedia
Conference, then indeed it is possible to arrange without significant
additional cost. However, I believe this is basically an entirely different
idea than the one Denny described (or at least the one I understood we're
discussing). An assembly would be a body who would voice their opinion only
once a year in practice, most likely. I'm not sure what exactly would it
do, but surely it would be difficult for it to agree/vote on situations
happening within a span of weeks, rather than months.


>
> So, please, reconsider your ideas on the line: from speaking about bad
> bureaucracy, while in fact increasing inefficient one -- to thinking
> about efficient, democratically accountable bureaucracy, with
> everybody content by its construction.
>

I am not convinced if a body of 100 people meeting once a year is an
efficient way to reduce bureaucracy. Of course views may differ.


>
> Said everything above, I have to express that I am pissed off by the
> fact that the Board members are constructive as long as they are under
> high level of pressure. Whenever you feel a bit more empowered, I hear
> just the excuses I've been listening for a decade.
>

I am saddened you have this perception.
https://xkcd.com/552/


>
> Please, let us know how do you want to talk with us in the way that we
> see that the communication is constructive.


That is a good topic for a separate thread! Currently, the list we use is
limited to 1500 English speakers.

An idea that I have been trying to champion for a while was also
community-liaisons: community elected people whose responsibility is
day-to-day communication with the WMF and back. This would not be a
decisive role, and it is independent from whether we have a senate or
assembly or not, but could at least increase the reach of communication and
decision making in some areas.

Also, discourse is a platform that perhaps will take off at some point.

dj
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Transition plans for WMF leadership - Board Reform

2016-02-23 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 11:02 AM, Andreas Kolbe  wrote:

>
> (1) The most compelling arguments in favour of having appointees as voting
> board members (as opposed to having them as advisory board members),
>

I'm not sure what you're asking. I think that both external experts and the
community-elected and chapter-appointed Board members should be voting
members, if they are to be on the board. If you're asking whether it is
useful to have external appointees on the Board at all, I think the answer
is quite obvious - we need the level of engagement and expertise, that will
not be available if we ask them to be on the advisory board, and I don't
think it is likely it would be if they were to no non-decisive board
members. Proportions between solely board-appointed and community-nominated
people is a different story.


>
> (2) If you are comfortable doing so, the most important risks or downsides
> attached to the present arrangement?
>


well, there are several, just from the top of my head: community/chapter
elected members do not always have any prior experience of working on an
NGO board or in any similar body; the current system disfavors diversity,
externally-appointed experts have trouble understanding open collaboration
organizations in general, and Wikipedia ecosystem in particular... I could
go on, but at the time I can't really sit down to it methodically.



>
> I am glad to hear you are working on a proposal to increase the number of
> community/chapter seats on the board (though I personally tend to think
> that at 2 vs. 3, the chapters are already slightly over-represented,
> compared to the general community).
>
>
Sadly, humans count in full numbers only, so it could be either 1 or 2 in
the current system, and 1 is not that many neither :)
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