Re: [Wikimedia-l] "The Foundation does not care so much of the French-speaking contributors"

2019-09-16 Thread Diane Ranville
Hi Gereon;

"German communities are established and have strong chapters. I suppose the
same applies to the French language communites."
=> Well, no. The situation is different because the WikiConvention
Francophone is half African. African french-speaking affiliates are not
strong, they are medium-sized or small User Groups, often struggling. And
French-speaking Africans are left out of events like WikiIndaba because
they don't speak English... so they actually never get to see the WMF.
Also, as far as I know, the German community is way better established, has
a lot of employees and has way stronger ties with WMF on a regular basis.
And German people generally speak better English so they can access more
information, go to Wikimania, etc.

Now I'm not sure about what should be done, but I just wanted to challenge
this comparison because the communities are in fact very different and face
very distinct challenges.

On Mon, Sep 16, 2019 at 8:45 AM Jane Darnell  wrote:

> As far as Art+Feminism goes, this project concentrates on biographies of
> female artists. The English Wikipedia project "Women in Red" is open 24x7
> all year round and concentrates on biographies of women on English
> Wikipedia, period. So you can take all of your local Wikipedia questions
> about A+F to your local WiR women for each non-English Wikipedia, and if
> there is no overlap yet, I suggest starting your own local A+F/WiR in your
> local Wikipedia. We should probably start a multi-lingual one for Commons,
> since it has proven so difficult to get pictures of female artists to
> illustrate articles about them.
>
> On Sun, Sep 15, 2019 at 8:27 PM Natacha Rault via Wikimedia-l <
> wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org> wrote:
>
> > Thank you Thierry. To be honnest a few of us were really waiting for
> > Valerie D'Costa, the new Chief of Community Engagement because we had
> > questions for her about the new rapid grant funding agenda which seems
> > totally inadapted to volunteer’s need in terms of flexibility. One has to
> > wait a soecific month for Art+feminism and very often the timing has not
> > been adapted to when the events are actually taking place. For a
> volunteer
> > this is way too procedural. We need more flexibility.
> > We had other questions regarding the departure of several people which
> > were very important for the gender gap.
> > So ... Some of us were disappointed indeed.
> > Kind regards,
> > Natacha
> >
> >
> >
> > > Le 15 sept. 2019 à 20:02, Thierry Coudray  a
> écrit :
> > >
> > > Valerie D'Costa, the new Chief of Community Engagement,
> >
> >
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement Strategy: Draft recommendations are here!

2019-09-14 Thread Diane Ranville
Hi Paulo,

As far as I know, the new discussion will happen *after* the harmonization
sprint, and will be about the new set of recommendations that comes out of
it.

Best,
Diane

On Sat, Sep 14, 2019 at 7:25 AM Benjamin Ikuta 
wrote:

>
>
> Could we have a formal RfC already, please?
>
>
>
> > On Sep 13, 2019, at 6:02 PM, Todd Allen  wrote:
> >
> > Also, "use the mailing list" is a problem in itself. Discussion should be
> > taking place publicly and on-wiki, not via email. Lack of transparency in
> > this process is a serious problem, and it is exacerbated by trying to
> push
> > discussions to a private medium. Discussions should take place openly and
> > in public.
> >
> > Todd
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 13, 2019 at 6:38 PM Paulo Santos Perneta <
> > paulospern...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Diane,
> >>
> >> If there will be a new discussion (and rightly so), what happens to the
> >> "harmonization sprint in Tunis on 20-22 September" mentioned by Nicole
> in
> >> her messages?
> >> I don't believe there will be much to harmonize between the new
> discussion
> >> with the community takes place.
> >>
> >> Best,
> >> Paulo
> >>
> >>
> >> Diane Ranville  escreveu no dia sexta,
> >> 13/09/2019 à(s) 14:20:
> >>
> >>> Hi Andy,
> >>>
> >>> Working groups are currently working off-wiki on a new version that
> will
> >>> soon be submitted to discussion again. Current versions are indeed not
> >>> being updated (I think they are not meant to be).
> >>> If you want to reach out directly to the diversity working group, I
> >> suggest
> >>> using their mailing list : wg2030-divers...@wikimedia.org
> >>>
> >>> Best,
> >>> Diane
> >>> (community strategy liaison for the french speaking community)
> >>>
> >>> <
> >>>
> >>
> https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email_source=link_campaign=sig-email_content=webmail
> >>>>
> >>> Garanti
> >>> sans virus. www.avast.com
> >>> <
> >>>
> >>
> https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email_source=link_campaign=sig-email_content=webmail
> >>>>
> >>> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Sep 13, 2019 at 2:28 PM Andy Mabbett <
> a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> The section remains unchanged. Is anyone planning to update it?
> >>>>
> >>>> On Thu, 22 Aug 2019 at 14:29, Andy Mabbett  >
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Tue, 20 Aug 2019 at 19:48, Jeff Hawke 
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On Tue, Aug 20, 2019 at 7:41 PM Andy Mabbett <
> >>>> a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Mon, 19 Aug 2019 at 09:55, Jeff Hawke <
> >> geoffey.ha...@gmail.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> the WG then collate them and decide the final form of the
> >>>>>>>> recommendations, to be implemented by the WMF
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> This seems to be missing a rather crucial intermediate step; the
> >>> one
> >>>>>>> where the recommendations are accepted, or not, by the wider
> >>>> Wikimedia
> >>>>>>> community.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> That step is not mentioned at
> >>>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Frequently_asked_questions#What_steps_will_take_place_in_the_next_few_months_to_put_a_decision-making_process_in_place
> >>>> ?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> But it is alluded to further down that page, albeit with an apparent
> >>>>> assumption that the recommendations will (all) be implemented:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Frequently_asked_questions#What_are_the_steps_that_will_take_place_between_recommendations_being_published_and_implementation
> >>>&g

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement Strategy: Draft recommendations are here!

2019-09-13 Thread Diane Ranville
Hi Andy,

Working groups are currently working off-wiki on a new version that will
soon be submitted to discussion again. Current versions are indeed not
being updated (I think they are not meant to be).
If you want to reach out directly to the diversity working group, I suggest
using their mailing list : wg2030-divers...@wikimedia.org

Best,
Diane
(community strategy liaison for the french speaking community)


Garanti
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On Fri, Sep 13, 2019 at 2:28 PM Andy Mabbett 
wrote:

> The section remains unchanged. Is anyone planning to update it?
>
> On Thu, 22 Aug 2019 at 14:29, Andy Mabbett 
> wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, 20 Aug 2019 at 19:48, Jeff Hawke 
> wrote:
> >
> > > On Tue, Aug 20, 2019 at 7:41 PM Andy Mabbett <
> a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Mon, 19 Aug 2019 at 09:55, Jeff Hawke 
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > the WG then collate them and decide the final form of the
> > > > > recommendations, to be implemented by the WMF
> > > >
> > > > This seems to be missing a rather crucial intermediate step; the one
> > > > where the recommendations are accepted, or not, by the wider
> Wikimedia
> > > > community.
> > > >
> > >
> > >  That step is not mentioned at
> > >
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Frequently_asked_questions#What_steps_will_take_place_in_the_next_few_months_to_put_a_decision-making_process_in_place
> ?
> >
> > But it is alluded to further down that page, albeit with an apparent
> > assumption that the recommendations will (all) be implemented:
> >
> >
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Frequently_asked_questions#What_are_the_steps_that_will_take_place_between_recommendations_being_published_and_implementation
> ?
> >
> > In the light of Nicole's recent - and reassuring - email:
> >
> >
> https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2019-August/093303.html
> >
> > perhaps that section could be updated to reflect that:
> >
> >"[recommendations not needing the legal authority of the board] will
> > then be further delegated to other community mechanisms and
> > structures for approval or further consultation."
> >
> > --
> > Andy Mabbett
> > @pigsonthewing
> > http://pigsonthewing.org.uk
>
>
>
> --
> Andy Mabbett
> @pigsonthewing
> http://pigsonthewing.org.uk
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community feedback and next steps on movement brand proposal

2019-09-06 Thread Diane Ranville
Hi,

I agree with Pine.
There is a majority of people who actually oppose the rebranding
proposition.
I don't quite understand why this is still going forward (except that it is
difficult to acknowledge a mistake and take steps backwards - but it is
sometimes necessary).
Have other options even been considered?

-speaking in my own name here-

Diane

On Fri, Sep 6, 2019 at 7:35 AM Pine W  wrote:

> Hello Zack,
>
> Thank you for the report on Meta.
>
> I am troubled by your statement in this email that "There is considerable
> support for the brand proposal and general appetite to improve our
> movement’s branding system." What that statement appears to omit is that,
> according to the report on Meta, there is also considerable opposition to
> the rebranding proposal.
>
>
> Can you explain why you characterized the proposal as having "considerable
> support" without in the same sentence acknowledging what appears to be
> considerable opposition?
>
>
> Of the three top-level metrics that the report on Meta displays that
> measure community and affiliate support or opposition regarding the
> rebranding proposal, one of the three metrics is in favor and two of the
> three metrics are opposed. If this was an RfC, and I was using those
> measures of sentiment to evaluate support and opposition regarding the RfC,
> I would probably close the current rebranding proposal as declined.
>
> Pine
>
> ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine )
>
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 5, 2019, 20:49 Zack McCune  wrote:
>
> > *Summary* - We want your help with a voluntary, OPT-IN design process for
> > movement branding.  Please join the in-depth discussion group, or watch
> for
> > updates on Meta-Wiki.
> >
> >
> > Hello all,
> >
> > After 4 months of community consultation, spanning dozens of affiliates,
> > several mailing lists, community conferences, and Meta-Wiki, I am pleased
> > to share a summary of feedback on the proposed 2030 movement brand
> strategy
> > [1].
> >
> > From more than 319 comments, representing 150 individual contributors and
> > 63 affiliates, we assessed 6 major themes in feedback:
> >
> >1.
> >
> >Reducing confusion
> >2.
> >
> >Protecting reputation
> >3.
> >
> >Supporting sister projects
> >4.
> >
> >Addressing (legal, governmental) risks
> >5.
> >
> >Supporting movement growth
> >6.
> >
> >The process of change
> >
> > Please visit our feedback summary page to learn more [2]. You will see
> > examples of comments within each section, along with a rough indication
> of
> > how many of the comments that we received were related to each theme.
> >
> > The comments sometimes contradict one another, showing that across our
> wide
> > movement’s experience, different points of view are common (and a sign of
> > health!). To visualize these tensions, we have created “polarity maps”
> > which are used to help visualize how different arguments coexist in
> tension
> > with each other.
> >
> > Ultimately, the comments provided from you all are very thoughtful and
> > useful guidance on what is needed to make our movement’s branding
> > successful. One can read the 6 themes above as “criteria” for assessing
> > branding systems.
> >
> > == Thanks ==
> >
> > I would like to thank the organizers of Iberoconf, Wikipedia Education
> > Summit, and the Wikimedia Summit for inviting us to hold discussions
> during
> > their sessions. I would also like to thank my colleagues Elena Lappen,
> > Samir Elsharbaty, and Blanca Flores who conducted extensive parts of this
> > consultation. To the hundreds of people, and dozens of affiliates
> > commenting, thank you for reviewing the proposal and offering your
> > perspectives and insights.
> >
> >
> > == Next steps and staying involved ==
> >
> > There is considerable support for the brand proposal and general appetite
> > to improve our movement’s branding system. Further, we believe that
> > critical feedback on the proposal offers direct guidance for precisely
> what
> > branding must do to be successful for our movement. We have shared these
> > insights and our proposed continuance with the Board of Trustees, who
> > approved continuing these efforts.
> >
> > Acting on community insights, we will be collaborating on formal brand
> > naming, visual identity, and brand system design that will use
> “Wikipedia”
> > as the central reference point. The resulting system will be OPT-IN for
> > affiliates.
> >
> > This design process will be guided by a “brand network” – a group of
> > volunteers who would like to continue advising on brand during this
> > consultation. Dozens of people have already volunteered, and we invite
> you
> > to join the group. We will use a group on Wikimedia Space to host this
> > discussion and the group will be closed to allow candid discussions and
> > room for iterations. EVERYONE IS INVITED TO JOIN [3]. If you do not want
> to
> > commit to the in-depth, longer term discussions that will be happening
> 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of the Wikimedians of the Caribbean User Group

2019-07-31 Thread Diane Ranville
Congratulations to the members of Wikimedians of the Caribbeans!
I am very curious about your work and I am sure fascinating projects will
emerge from it.

Best regards,
Diane Ranville
(U:Opsylac)

On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 5:58 PM Rajeeb Dutta  wrote:

> Great news and many many congratulations to all the members involved in
> making this happen.
> Thanks Kirill for the update.
>
> Best Regards,
> Rajeeb Dutta.
> (U: Marajozkee)
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On 31-Jul-2019, at 9:15 PM, Kirill Lokshin 
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi everyone!
> >
> > I'm very happy to announce that the Affiliations Committee has recognized
> > [1] the Wikimedians of the Caribbean User Group [2] as a Wikimedia User
> > Group. The group aims to support Wikimedia projects and activities among
> > the peoples of the Caribbean and the Caribbean Diaspora.
> >
> > Please join me in congratulating the members of this new user group!
> >
> > Regards,
> > Kirill Lokshin
> > Chair, Affiliations Committee
> >
> > [1]
> >
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee/Resolutions/Recognition_of_Wikimedians_of_the_Caribbean_User_Group
> > [2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Caribbean_Wikimedians_User_Group
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