[Wikimedia-l] Re: Regarding a series of serious office actions / 有关于一系列的办事处行动

2021-09-15 Thread Isaac Olatunde
Hello ytcontact07,

Maggie has apologised for the translation in this thread and a better
translation has now been provided on meta Wiki (
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Office_actions/September_2021_statement/zh
).

The translation concerns have been addressed and I believe they would be
more careful in the future. It's unhelpful to continue to flog a dead
horse.

Regards

Isaac

On Wed, 15 Sep 2021, 10:18 Gnangarra,  wrote:

> Hello ytcontact07
>
> It is just like evacuating a village before a typhoon hits, or a volcano
> erupts. It's going to inconvenience a few people but it's better than doing
> nothing.  Some people may not return to the village but the villagers were
> saved and they'll be ready if it happens again even taking proactive steps
> beforehand.
>
> On Wed, 15 Sept 2021 at 16:19,  wrote:
>
>> Hello Maggie,
>>
>> First of all, as others have pointed out, this English-Chinese
>> translation is horrendous. I am pretty certain even Google translate
>> wouldn't contain this much of misused characters. Please revise this
>> translation.
>>
>> Second, you have made some very serious allegations in this statement but
>> with little substantiating evidence of any sort. I do not know what kind of
>> organizational and administrative power Wikimedia Foundation has over the
>> Wikipedia community, regional communities, and others; but even if the
>> power demonstrated in this statement is correctly vetted, there is still
>> tremendous burden of proof to explain this action. Otherwise this statement
>> would be simply another misguided political attempt in a community that it
>> does not belong, as well as further damaging the communities of Wikimedians
>> in a region that really should have received much more support in order to
>> extend the reach of free knowledge.
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[Wikimedia-l] Re: Affiliations Committee Call for Candidates - June 2021

2021-05-16 Thread Isaac Olatunde
To add to Risker's question, which subcommittee is responsible for
appointing new members of the affiliation committee? Or are new members
selected or appointed by the WMF board?

Regards

Isaac

On Sun, 16 May 2021, 22:11 Risker,  wrote:

> Thanks, Jeffrey; it's a start.  Perhaps asking specific questions will be
> more helpful.
>
> Which subcommittee is responsible for:
>
>-  establishing standards for new affiliates (differentiated by type)
>and existing affiliates?  Are they the same group, or is this
>responsibility split?
>- collecting  and reviewing information to verify that the affiliates
>are meeting their standards?
>- supporting and encouraging existing affiliates to meet those
>standards?
>- assisting in the ongoing development of affiliates
>- determining whether an affiliate has fallen so far below standard
>that it can no longer continue?
>- revoking the approval of an affiliate (or recommending revocation -
>in which case, to whom does it make the recommendation?)
>- advocating within the movement on the value of the affiliate system
>
> Does the Affiliates Committee continue to be a committee of the WMF Board
> of Trustees?
>
> Is it expected to have any role in recommendations about funding (or
> denying/withdrawing funding) to new and existing affiliates, now that the
> FDC has essentially been eliminated, either as a group or through one or
> the other of its subcommittees?
>
> What range of conflict resolution tools will be available to the conflict
> subcommittee?
>
>  These were the first questions that came to me when I first saw your
> email.  I would not be surprised if others have more questions.
>
> Risker/Anne
>
> On Sun, 16 May 2021 at 15:03, Jeffrey Keefer  wrote:
>
>> Risker-
>>
>> Thank you for question on this.
>>
>> The descriptions are being revised, but let me try to briefly summarize
>> them so there is something to work with for now.
>>
>> The Recognitions Subcommittee is involved with helping new Affiliates
>> (User Groups, Chapters, and Thematic Organizations) to form and be
>> recognized groups within the Movement. This involves clarifying their scope
>> and ensuring there is no confusion in overlap of intentions.
>>
>> The Conflicts Subcommittee helps Affiliates when conflicts arise within
>> or between Affiliates, including attempts to resolve these issues or
>> ideally prevent them if possible.
>>
>> I hope this is helpful, even in this shortened form.
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> -
>>
>> Jeffrey
>> User:FULBERT
>>
>>
>>
>> On May 16, 2021, at 12:09 AM, Risker  wrote:
>>
>> Jeffrey, could you please link to a description of the roles and
>> responsibilities of members of the two subcommittees?  You've mentioned the
>> expected skillset for each, but have not explained what they are actually
>> expected to be responsible for.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Risker/Anne
>>
>> On Sat, 15 May 2021 at 14:41, Jeffrey Keefer  wrote:
>>
>>> The *Affiliations Committee
>>> *
>>>  –
>>> the committee responsible for guiding volunteers in establishing Wikimedia
>>> chapters, thematic organizations, and user groups – is looking for new
>>> members!
>>>
>>> The main role of the AffCom is to guide groups of volunteers that are
>>> interested in forming Wikimedia affiliates. We review applications from new
>>> groups, answer questions and provide advice about the different Wikimedia
>>> affiliation models and processes, review affiliate bylaws for compliance
>>> with requirements and best practices, and update the Wikimedia Foundation
>>> Board of Trustees as well as advise them on issues connected to chapters,
>>> thematic organizations and Wikimedia user groups.
>>>
>>> The committee consists of five to fifteen members, selected at least
>>> once every year, to serve two-year terms.
>>>
>>> Being a part of the AffCom requires communication with volunteers all
>>> over the world, negotiating skills, cultural sensitivity, and the ability
>>> to understand legal texts. We look for a mix of different skill sets in our
>>> members.
>>> *Responsibilities*
>>>
>>>- Availability of up to 5-8 hours per month
>>>
>>>
>>>- Participate in monthly one and two-hour voice/video meetings
>>>
>>>
>>>- Commitment to carry out assigned tasks in a given time.
>>>
>>>
>>>- Facilitate and support communications
>>>
>>>
>>>- Affiliate Support and growth
>>>
>>> *Required and Recommended Abilities, Skills, Knowledge for Affiliations
>>> Committee Members*
>>>
>>> Strong interpersonal relationship among members of the committee and
>>> also with the Wikimedia community members. Across all committee members,
>>> there are additional relevant skills as well as requirements which help to
>>> support the committee and its sustainability which include both required
>>> and relevant general skills
>>> *Required*
>>>
>>>- Fluency in English
>>>- Availability of up 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] New functionaries of WUG Esperanto and Free Knowledge

2021-02-24 Thread Isaac Olatunde
Congratulations to the team and thanks for sharing the news Michal.

Isaac

On Wed, 24 Feb 2021, 20:40 Michal Matúšov, 
wrote:

> Hi community!
>
> I am happy and proud to announce that the Wikimedia User Group Esperanto
> and Free Knowledge (ELiSo) now has a full stack of functionaries. For years
> we were working as an non-formal group, but after official incorporation at
> the end of 2019, we came into formal organisational mode.
>
> Board:
>
>- Chair: Michal Matúšov (KuboF Hromoslav)
>- Vice-Chair: Ivan Camilo Quintero Santacruz
>- Board Member: Juan Sebastian Quintero Santacruz
>
>
> Audit Committee:
>
>- Chair of Audit Committee: Ziko van Dijk
>- Michel Castelo Branco
>- Yves Nevelsteen
>
>
> As you can see, between the functionaries are several co-founders, former
> Chairs and Vice-Chairs of another Wikimedia affiliations and even authors
> of books about Wikipedia. Such expertise is very welcomed in our effort to
> be recognized as a Wikimedia Thematic Organisation, and collective member
> of the Universal Esperanto Association and World Esperanto Youth
> Organization.
>
> Best regads
> Michal Matúšov / User:KuboF Hromoslav
> Esperanto and Free Knowledge (WUG ELiSo) 
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of the Dagbani Wikimedians User Group

2021-02-09 Thread Isaac Olatunde
Congratulations to my friend Sadik and other founding members.

Regards

Isaac

On Tue, 9 Feb 2021, 22:08 Mehman Ibragimov, 
wrote:

> Hi everyone!
>
> I'm very happy to announce that the Affiliations Committee has recognized
> [1] *Dagbani Wikimedians User Group* [2] as a Wikimedia User Group. The
> group aims to promote awareness of Wikimedia projects related to
> Mole-Dagbani languages in Benin, Burkina Faso and Ghana.
>
> Please join me in congratulating the members of this new user group!
>
> Regards,
> Mehman Ibragimov
> Vice-Chair, Affiliations Committee
> [1]
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee/Resolutions/Recognition_of_Dagbani_Wikimedians_User_Group
> [2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Dagbani_Wikimedians_User_Group
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF transfers $8.7 million to "Wikimedia Knowledge Equity Fund"

2020-12-13 Thread Isaac Olatunde
I agree with Dan. A question about this should have been directed to the
WMF and allow them to respond prior to raising it here (if that's even
necessary in the first place.)

Regards

Isaac


On Sun, 13 Dec 2020, 14:30 Dan Garry (Deskana),  wrote:

> It seems disingenous to describe it as "secret" given that it was
> willingly acknowledged in the the FAQ of the annual financial audit
> .
> The information provided in the FAQ is somewhat lacking, but these are not
> the actions of people trying to sweep it under the rug.
>
> Let us politely ask for more information without being unnecessarily
> alarmist.
>
> Dan
>
> On Sun, 13 Dec 2020 at 08:54, Yair Rand  wrote:
>
>> According to the recent Independent Auditors' Report of the WMF [1], at
>> some point prior to the end of June 2020, an entity called the "Wikimedia
>> Knowledge Equity Fund" was established, and $8.723 million was transferred
>> to it by the WMF, in the form of an unconditional grant. The Fund is
>> "managed and controlled by Tides Advocacy" (a 501(c)(4) advocacy nonprofit
>> previously led by the WMF's current General Counsel/Board Secretary, who
>> served as CEO, Board Secretary, and Treasurer there). Given that a Google
>> search for "Wikimedia Knowledge Equity Fund" yields zero results prior to
>> the release of the report, it is clear that the WMF kept this significant
>> move completely secret for over five months, perhaps over a year. The
>> Report FAQ additionally emphasizes that the WMF "has no right of return to
>> the grant funds provided, with the exception of unexpended funds."
>>
>> The WMF unilaterally and secretly transferred nearly $9 million of
>> movement funds to an outside organization not recognized by the
>> Affiliations Committee. No mention of the grant was made in any Board
>> resolutions or minutes from the relevant time period. The amount was not
>> mentioned in the public annual plan, which set out rather less than this
>> amount for the entire grantmaking budget for the year. No application was
>> made through any of the various Wikimedia grants processes. No further
>> information has been provided on the administration of this new Fund, or on
>> the text of the grant agreement.
>>
>> I am appalled.
>>
>> -- Yair Rand
>>
>> [1]
>> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/foundation/f/f7/Wikimedia_Foundation_FY2019-2020_Audit_Report.pdf
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Affiliates] New Board of Wikimedia Canada // Nouveau conseil d'administration de Wikimédia Canada

2020-11-24 Thread Isaac Olatunde
Congratulations to Wikimedia Canada and all the newly appointed board
members.

Regards

Isaac

On Tue, 24 Nov 2020, 04:02 Jean-Philippe Béland, 
wrote:

> (Le français suit)
>
> Last Saturday, Wikimedia Canada held its Annual General Meeting. Thanks to
> all the members who participated. We are welcoming two new Board members:
> Catherine Bernier, involved with the GLAM-Wiki projects with Bibliothèque
> et Archives nationales du Québec (BAnQ), and Thérèse Ottawa, referent of
> the WikiClub Metapeckeka (the WikiClub of the Atikamekw Community of
> Manawan) and very dedicated in the project to develop the Wikipetcia
> Atikamekw Nehiromowin (the Wikipedia in Atikamekw language). Benoit Rochon,
> Ha-Loan Phan, and Michael David Miller were re-elected to the Board.
>
> Wikimedia Canada is proud that its Board of Directors is still composed
> of a majority of women and to welcome a member of the Atikamekw First
> Nation as a director, as well as maintaining a representation from the
> LGBTQ+ community. We are sure that this will help us to continue and
> further our efforts in terms of inclusiveness and diversity.
>
>
> (Version française)
>
> Samedi dernier, Wikimédia Canada a tenu son assemblée générale annuelle.
> Merci à tou(te)s les membres qui ont participé. Nous souhaitons la
> bienvenue à deux nouvelles membres du conseil d'administration : Catherine
> Bernier, impliquée avec les projets GLAM-Wiki avec Bibliothèque et Archives
> nationales du Québec (BAnQ), et Thérèse Ottawa, référente du WikiClub
> Metapeckeka (le WikiClub de la Communauté Atikamekw de Manawan) et très
> dévouée au projet de création de la Wikipetcia Atikamekw Nehiromowin (la
> Wikipédia en langue atikamekw). Benoit Rochon, Ha-Loan Phan et Michael
> David Miller ont été ré-élu(e)s au conseil d'administration.
>
> Wikimédia Canada est fier que son conseil d'administration continue d'être
> composé d'une majorité de femmes et d'acceuillir une membre de la Première
> Nation Atikamekw comme administratice, en plus de conserver une
> représentation de la communauté LGBTQ+. Nous sommes convaincu(e)s que cela
> va nous permettre de continuer et de renforcer nos efforts en termes
> d'inclusion et de diversité.
>
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] #SheSaid

2020-11-03 Thread Isaac Olatunde
Hello Flo,

This is a fantastic initiative. Please let me know how I can provide
support for you and the team.

With kind regards

Isaac

On Tue, 3 Nov 2020, 16:13 Samuel Patton,  wrote:

> I love this, and will gladly participate via my personal account!
>
> *"It's not the last couch you'll ever buy."*
>
> ~ My mom, always a pragmatist, abundantly notable in my hometown. #SheSaid
>
> On Tue, Nov 3, 2020 at 8:41 AM Rajeeb  wrote:
>
>> Great to hear from you Florence and actually we all are grateful that you
>> came up with such an awesome initiative, definitely, I will participate and
>> will share with the broader community.
>>
>> Namaste,
>>
>> Rajeeb.
>>
>> On Tue, 3 Nov 2020 at 16:27, Samuel Guebo  wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Florence,
>>> That's a superb initiative!
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Samuel
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 3, 2020 at 7:10 AM Natacha Rault via Wikimedia-l <
>>> wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org> wrote:
>>>
 Yup cos this quote has been on my contributor page on Fr Wiki for quite
 a long time.
 Thanks for setting this up Anthere!
 I made my first contribution thanks to #shesaid on a famous quote of
 Monique Wittig, a renowned French author (Les Guérillères, l’Oppoponax).

 Warm regards,

 Nattes à chat

 Envoyé de mon iPhone

 Le 3 nov. 2020 à 02:58, Florence Devouard  a
 écrit :

 

 Did you know that quote

 "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your
 right to say it."

 was authored by a woman ?


 Do you know how many entries on Wikiquote are about women versus Men ?
 14639 men entries... for 2977 women entries...

 Suprised ?


 I am happy to announce the new *#SheSaid campaign*. The #SheSaid drive
 is aimed at improving the visibility of women across Wikimedia projects
 (and beyond) by creating new or improving already existing Wikiquote
 entries spoken by notable women.

 Here are a few statistics:

- On the English Wikiquote main page on 6th of Oct 2020, in the 
 *Selected
people* section... 29 men are featured and only 4 women (check out
the screenshot on the right...)
- There are 233 women who have a featured article on either French
or English Wikipedias... with no entry on the French Wikiquote check
it out

 
- There are 141 women featured article on the English Wikipedia
with no wikiquote entry check it

 
- There are 519 women listed on the French wikiquote check it

 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Moderation notice

2020-09-10 Thread Isaac Olatunde
Hello Asaf

I am a list administrator in at least 5 Wikimedia mailing lists and I
believe I have the relevant experience in this area.

I'd be happy to help out if you need more hands.

Regards

Isaac

On Thu, 10 Sep 2020, 10:08 Asaf Bartov,  wrote:

> Indeed, there is a potential conflict of interest here.  This is why I
> strongly tend to leniency, *especially* when unacceptable discourse
> coincides with criticism of the Foundation.  In this case, we received
> requests from two list subscribers to moderate Dan.  We did so, while
> underscoring that it was *not* for criticizing the Foundation.
>
> I think I have something of a track record of supporting open debate and of
> encouraging and engaging with criticism of the Foundation.  I think there
> is indeed plenty to criticize; the Foundation is far from flawless.
>
> But people don't have to endure coarse language and vitriol at the same
> time.  By all means, express disappointment, lack of confidence, suspicion,
> whatever, but do it in a civil manner.  Dan can continue to do as well, of
> course. I have already let one message of this through moderation.
>
> All that said, it would of course have been better if we had a couple of
> list-admins more, without ties to the Foundation, so perhaps it is time to
> recruit them.  Is anyone interested?
>
>A.
>
> On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 1:56 AM Todd Allen  wrote:
>
> > Erm, wait. He said what, "fart"?
> >
> > It's not a particularly good look for a WMF employee to be moderating
> > someone critiquing the WMF, especially when, while their statement may
> have
> > been strongly worded, it used pretty mild language. This should either be
> > undone, or at least decided upon by someone who doesn't work for WMF.
> > That's a substantial conflict of interest.
> >
> > Todd
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 9, 2020 at 1:57 PM Asaf Bartov 
> wrote:
> >
> > > Dear Wikimedians,
> > >
> > > List subscriber Dan Szymborski has been placed under moderation, due to
> > > posts with unacceptable language.
> > >
> > > I remind everyone that criticism is appropriate and welcome on this
> list,
> > > so long as it remains civil and respectful of the people involved.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Moderation notice

2020-09-09 Thread Isaac Olatunde
Hello Todd,

The notice was sent by Asaf on behalf of the list administrators. That is,
he only communicated the decision of the list administrators and may not
have directly participated in the discussion that resulted in the decision
to moderate Dan.

I am not sure this mailing list administration is part of his JD at the WMF.

AFAIK, he's doing this as a volunteer and not as a WMF's Staffer. The same
way a WMF staffer may be an administrator on Wikimedia projects.

Regards

Isaac

On Wed, 9 Sep 2020, 23:56 Todd Allen,  wrote:

> Erm, wait. He said what, "fart"?
>
> It's not a particularly good look for a WMF employee to be moderating
> someone critiquing the WMF, especially when, while their statement may have
> been strongly worded, it used pretty mild language. This should either be
> undone, or at least decided upon by someone who doesn't work for WMF.
> That's a substantial conflict of interest.
>
> Todd
>
> On Wed, Sep 9, 2020 at 1:57 PM Asaf Bartov  wrote:
>
> > Dear Wikimedians,
> >
> > List subscriber Dan Szymborski has been placed under moderation, due to
> > posts with unacceptable language.
> >
> > I remind everyone that criticism is appropriate and welcome on this list,
> > so long as it remains civil and respectful of the people involved.
> >
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] A Universal Code of Conduct draft for review

2020-09-08 Thread Isaac Olatunde
Hello Dan,

You are allowed to offer an opinion but I Honestly think that's better and
more useful on the Draft talk page.

That being said, by "effective vote or representation in the proceedings",
you probably expected a different model where different language
Wikip(m)edia community would be represented or vote on weather to have a
UCoC.

The current model isn't bad.  I do think we should review the draft and if
there are specific wording we disagree with, we can either suggest
improvement or removal altogether. I honestly think we need to help and
support the drafting committee at this stage.

Regards

Isaac

On Tue, 8 Sep 2020, 19:25 Dan Szymborski,  wrote:

> I'm also perfectly free to express to the IRS that I'd really like to get a
> $10 million check from them at tax time. The ability to offer an opinion on
> proceedings with no effective vote or representation in the proceedings is
> about as good as a fart in the wind. I'd prefer the WMF keep its flatulence
> to itself.
>
> On Tue, Sep 8, 2020 at 2:17 PM Isaac Olatunde 
> wrote:
>
> > On the contrary, I do not think this is an imposition by the Board or WMF
> > as we are allowed to comment on the draft, and suggest improvement.
> >
> > I have been following the process closely and I do not see anything that
> > looks like an "imposition"
> >
> > The Universal Code of Conduct is not a substitute to the existing policy
> or
> > guidelines but a behavioural guidelines expected of users in any
> Wikimedia
> > project.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Isaac
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 8 Sep 2020, 16:11 Dan Szymborski,  wrote:
> >
> > > As this is being explicitly imposed by the board from above without
> > > community approval, participating in any way is ethically unsound.
> Doubly
> > > so without a board election preceding this as the WMF has arbitrarily
> > > denied communities the right, as manifested in the election of the
> > > community seats, to voice their opinions of actions that WMF has taken
> > over
> > > the last 18 months. A collaborative process is a collaborative process
> > when
> > > it's actually a collaborative process, not just when it's called one.
> > >
> > > The best use of time at this point is to organize the communities to
> use
> > > every means at its disposal to resist such an imposition.
> > >
> > > On Mon, Sep 7, 2020 at 4:18 PM Patrick Earley 
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hello, everyone.
> > > >
> > > > We are excited to share a draft of the Universal Code of Conduct
> > > > <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Universal_Code_of_Conduct>, which
> the
> > > > Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees called for earlier this year
> > > > <
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Board_noticeboard/May_2020_-_Board_of_Trustees_on_Healthy_Community_Culture,_Inclusivity,_and_Safe_Spaces
> > > > >,
> > > > for your review and feedback. The discussion will be open until
> October
> > > 6,
> > > > 2020.
> > > >
> > > > The UCoC Drafting Committee
> > > > <
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Universal_Code_of_Conduct/Drafting_committee
> > > > >wants
> > > > to learn which parts of the draft would present challenges for you or
> > > your
> > > > work. What is missing from this draft? What do you like, and what
> could
> > > be
> > > > improved?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Many thanks to the Committee, and everyone who has helped with
> > > translations
> > > > so far.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Please join the conversation
> > > > <
> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Universal_Code_of_Conduct/Draft_review>
> > > > and share this email with others who may be interested to join, too.
> > > >
> > > > To learn more about the UCoC project, see the Universal Code of
> Conduct
> > > > page
> > > > <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Universal_Code_of_Conduct>, and the
> > FAQ
> > > > <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Universal_Code_of_Conduct/FAQ>, on
> > > Meta.
> > > >
> > > > [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Universal_Code_of_Conduct
> > > >
> > > > [2]
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
&g

Re: [Wikimedia-l] A Universal Code of Conduct draft for review

2020-09-08 Thread Isaac Olatunde
On the contrary, I do not think this is an imposition by the Board or WMF
as we are allowed to comment on the draft, and suggest improvement.

I have been following the process closely and I do not see anything that
looks like an "imposition"

The Universal Code of Conduct is not a substitute to the existing policy or
guidelines but a behavioural guidelines expected of users in any Wikimedia
project.

Regards

Isaac


On Tue, 8 Sep 2020, 16:11 Dan Szymborski,  wrote:

> As this is being explicitly imposed by the board from above without
> community approval, participating in any way is ethically unsound. Doubly
> so without a board election preceding this as the WMF has arbitrarily
> denied communities the right, as manifested in the election of the
> community seats, to voice their opinions of actions that WMF has taken over
> the last 18 months. A collaborative process is a collaborative process when
> it's actually a collaborative process, not just when it's called one.
>
> The best use of time at this point is to organize the communities to use
> every means at its disposal to resist such an imposition.
>
> On Mon, Sep 7, 2020 at 4:18 PM Patrick Earley 
> wrote:
>
> > Hello, everyone.
> >
> > We are excited to share a draft of the Universal Code of Conduct
> > , which the
> > Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees called for earlier this year
> > <
> >
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Board_noticeboard/May_2020_-_Board_of_Trustees_on_Healthy_Community_Culture,_Inclusivity,_and_Safe_Spaces
> > >,
> > for your review and feedback. The discussion will be open until October
> 6,
> > 2020.
> >
> > The UCoC Drafting Committee
> > <
> >
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Universal_Code_of_Conduct/Drafting_committee
> > >wants
> > to learn which parts of the draft would present challenges for you or
> your
> > work. What is missing from this draft? What do you like, and what could
> be
> > improved?
> >
> >
> > Many thanks to the Committee, and everyone who has helped with
> translations
> > so far.
> >
> >
> > Please join the conversation
> > 
> > and share this email with others who may be interested to join, too.
> >
> > To learn more about the UCoC project, see the Universal Code of Conduct
> > page
> > , and the FAQ
> > , on
> Meta.
> >
> > [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Universal_Code_of_Conduct
> >
> > [2]
> >
> >
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Board_noticeboard/May_2020_-_Board_of_Trustees_on_Healthy_Community_Culture,_Inclusivity,_and_Safe_Spaces
> >
> > [3]
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Universal_Code_of_Conduct/Draft_review
> > [4] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Universal_Code_of_Conduct/FAQ
> >
> > --
> > Patrick Earley
> > Policy Manager, Trust and Safety
> > Wikimedia Foundation
> > pear...@wikimedia.org
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[Wikimedia-l] Announcement: The WPWP Campaign 2020 is now closed

2020-09-02 Thread Isaac Olatunde
 Hello everyone,

We hope this email finds you well and you are keeping safe amidst the
ongoing COVID-19 pandemic that has disrupted many activities globally.

The WPWP Campaign
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_Pages_Wanting_Photos> is now
closed in many countries and we are excited to inform you that the campaign
added photos to more than 80,000
<https://hashtags.wmflabs.org/graph/?search_type=or==WPWP%2C+WPWPRW%2C+WPWPRT%2C+WPWPUIL%2C+WPWPTH%2C+WPWPSQ%2C+WPWPCA%2C+WPWPCM%2C+WPWPIN%2C+WPWPMK%2C+WPWPNG%2C+WPWPTR%2C+WPWPLV%2C+WPWPTZ%2C+WPWPZM%2C+WPWPPT%2C+WPWPBW%2C+WPWPML%2C+WPWPGN%2C+WPWPIT%2C+WPWPDZ%2C+WPWPHI%2C+WPWPSR%2C+WPWPWLF===>
Wikipedia articles in 269 languages and 569 people participated in the
campaign globally.

This is a huge success and the campaign would not have been this successful
without your support. Although, we experienced some difficulties during the
campaign but that is not uncommon for a new campaign, especially a campaign
that involves editing the main space in multiple languages Wikipedia.

We are documenting our learning and community feedback. We strongly believe
they would be useful for improving the next edition of the campaign.

We plan to constitute the International Jury Team this week and if you
would like to join us in coordinating the Jury, please email the
International Organizing Team at wpwp-organiz...@lists.wikimedia.org

Thanks for all your contributions to the WPWP Campaign this year.

With best regards,
Isaac Olatunde
Project Manager and Global Coordinator
WPWP Campaign.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Sexual harassment

2020-08-23 Thread Isaac Olatunde
Hello Chris,

This isn't a terribly bad advise, AFAICS.

Harassments are treated on a case-by-case basis.

So, if this is something you aren't comfortable discussing publicly, you
could email the Functionary team or ArbCom or similar body in that
community.

If it's something that should be removed from public view, you could
contact the oversight team.

I can't see the contents of the harassment, so I can only speak based on
general principle.

Regards

Isaac

On Sun, 23 Aug 2020, 23:07 Chris Sherlock, 
wrote:

> To be clear, this is what I was advised:
>
> “ Harassment concerns can be reviewed under the appropriate community
> process. I would therefore advise you to report the edit summary to the
> appropriate channels on the wiki it occured. If this happened on English
> Wikipedia, this would be the Administrator's board for incidents.
> I hope the above is helpful.”
>
> Chris
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On 24 Aug 2020, at 6:43 am, Chris Sherlock 
> wrote:
> >
> > Hello all,
> >
> > I have been advised by the WMF that if anyone is concerned about being
> sexually harassed they must report this to AN/I and there are no private
> mechanisms to report this sort of thing.
> >
> > Is this for real?
> >
> > Chris Sherlock
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Sexual harassment

2020-08-23 Thread Isaac Olatunde
Well, I don't know the fact directly but the standard procedure is to
discuss it with a local administrator on the relevant talk page or notice
board. So, Vermont is correct.

The T does not usually take action in cases that can generally be handled
by the local community. Thus, responses such as "falls outside the
Foundation's remit" isn't bad in such cases.

Regards.

Isaac




On Sun, 23 Aug 2020, 22:51 Chris Gates via Wikimedia-l, <
wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org> wrote:

> Chris,
>
> More generally, conduct issues are handled locally. We do not have a
> central authority to handle issues like this; local communities are, in the
> vast majority of cases, capable of handling conduct problems of it’s
> editors. Not to mention that T would be incapable of handling every minor
> conduct problem.
>
> It also is not something that is usually emailed to emergency@; if there’s
> extensive problems with harassment, and local functions do not work,
> c...@wikimedia.org will get you in touch with T who can look into the
> issue.
>
> However, you haven’t tried to handle this locally. Creating an ANI section,
> seeing that people aren’t 100% in agreement with your preferred outcome,
> and then removing it is not very helpful towards resolving this.
>
> From my somewhat limited looking into the events, there’s been some
> problematic shows of incivility on from both parties, with WWGB using the
> word “cutie” in an offhand edit summary. It isn’t appropriate, it certainly
> didn’t improve their point, but calling it sexual harassment and hoping for
> the WMF or others to take immediate and dire action without community input
> is misleading and unrealistic. On a collaborative project, problems are
> handled collaboratively with uninvolved editors looking at the issue from a
> third party perspective, giving their input, and at some point an
> administrator coming along to enact the consensus. That’s why noticeboards
> of this type exist, which discuss and evaluate conduct issues to seek a
> resolution. We do not know how other community members and admins would
> have participated in the discussion because it was cut short.
>
> I noticed that you said, on Facebook, that you did not feel safe talking to
> WWGB directly about it, and that you did not feel safe on ANI. I’m very
> sorry to hear this; though I am not sure what you believe to be unsafe
> about leaving a talk page message stating your having taken offense at
> WWGB’s remarks, or asking for input from administrators and the community
> to resolve the issue, those are the methods of fixing issues. If either
> action were met with hostility, insult, or further harassment, there would
> be a very clear and simple case for an administrator to take action, and
> thus would have been much easier. If WWGB, however, apologized and agreed
> not to continue with such conduct in the future, it would also have been
> much easier. We don’t have a sort of secret police to handle issues in
> private. The community processes exist for a reason, and when permitted to
> take place, usually work.
>
> Best regards,
> Vermont
>
>
> On Sun, Aug 23, 2020 at 17:27 Aron Manning  wrote:
>
> > On Sun, 23 Aug 2020 at 22:43, Chris Sherlock  >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I have been advised by the WMF that if anyone is concerned about being
> > > sexually harassed they must report this to AN/I and there are no
> private
> > > mechanisms to report this sort of thing.
> > >
> > > Is this for real?
> >
> >
> > Assuming you've contacted Trust, "falls outside of the
> Foundation's
> > remit" is a standard answer to receive as a regular editor.
> >
> > Bringing the issue to ANI it will most likely be ignored. If your issue
> is
> > with a long-term / established editor it has a significant chance to
> > boomerang .
> >
> > Sadly, this is for real and somewhat the reason behind the UCoC proposal.
> > Whether that will change this is another question.
> >
> > Aron
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Universal Code of Conduct Drafting Committee - Call for participation

2020-07-31 Thread Isaac Olatunde
I agree with Cieli. I have had the privilege to speak to people offline to
get their view on the proposed UCoc. This includes people on this list who
are not native speakers of the English language and not willing to openly
engage in a discussion about it. Many of them are interested in seeing the
draft.

We can't speak on their behalf here or anywhere else  and we can't assume
they share our feelings or thought. Every contributor matter, regardless of
the language they choose to contribute to and I think we should respect
that.

I look forward to reading the draft and possibly providing feedback.

Good luck to the drafting committee and the WMF staffers who are involved
in this process.

With kind regards
Isaac



On Fri, 31 Jul 2020, 19:24 Ciell Wikipedia, 
wrote:

> Yaroslav did, and again the Framwiki case was mentioned. And while I do
> realise this bruised and scarred the relationship between the English
> community and the WMF, please realise the UCoC could benefit a lot of other
> communities. Those who are not vocal on this list, and are just the silent
> readers. Those who maybe do not even know this list exists, or do not read
> because of English not being their first language. Those who have been
> struggling to keep their wiki on track maybe, and do not have the time or
> knowledge to design and agree on behavioural ground rules. Or in countries
> where the volunteer work we do even might be dangerous, so they just try to
> stick to writing. The UCoC could benefit the whole movement, so please keep
> a global perspective on this.
>
> And yes: I do agree we as volunteers deserve to give our input, and we
> deserve to be heard. But I do think we will get our chance. For now, it
> will be up to the writers to start a draft. Give them time to set this up
> properly.
>
> Ciell
>
>
> Op vr 31 jul. 2020 19:36 schreef Todd Allen :
>
> > Hello Ciell,
> >
> > These discussions took place on meta, not on en.wp. I don't believe
> anyone
> > has brought up the English Wikipedia in particular.
> >
> > Todd
> >
> > On Fri, Jul 31, 2020 at 11:08 AM Ciell Wikipedia <
> > ciell.wikipe...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Since this is about a Universal Code of Conduct, please do not focus
> this
> > > thread on the English language Wikipedia alone.
> > >
> > > Ciell
> > >
> > > Op vr 31 jul. 2020 18:25 schreef Aron Manning  >:
> > >
> > > > As firmly endorsed by 41 community members (out of thousands) in the
> > ToU
> > > > for WMF
> > > > <
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Recommendations/Iteration_1/Diversity/9#Terms_of_Use_for_the_WMF
> > > > >
> > > > discussion,
> > > > I think we can agree that the Terms of Use (and also the Code of
> > Conduct)
> > > > should apply to WMF employees as well, not just volunteers.
> > > >
> > > > However, I don't see how from that it could be inferred that there
> > should
> > > > be no Code of Conduct for the communities.
> > > > I believe that the important question is how the CoC will be
> > implemented:
> > > > will it be a tool for silencing unwanted POVs or a tool for
> addressing
> > > > toxicity?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Just my thoughts.
> > > > Aron
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, 31 Jul 2020 at 18:11, Yaroslav Blanter 
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > It is known and widely recognized that online communities were
> > excluded
> > > > > from the strategy process. There was no way one could open RfC on
> the
> > > > > process, and no approval of the strategy by the editing
> communities.
> > > > >
> > > > > This has to be fixed now. It is difficult to fix, because there are
> > > > already
> > > > > too many boundary conditions attached, and I am personally trying
> to
> > do
> > > > > whatever I can as a member of the transition strategy group.
> > > > >
> > > > > On the other hand, there was no real RfC rejecting the UCoC (at
> > least I
> > > > am
> > > > > not aware of one), even though many users, in particular, on the
> > > English
> > > > > Wikipedia in relation to the Fram affair, were very vocal about
> this.
> > > But
> > > > > people become vocal about many things, some of them, for example,
> > > > continue
> > > > > to advocate that we should fork from the existing project and this
> > > > forking
> > > > > is the only way forward. People say many things, and we have
> > community
> > > > > processes to see what is consensus and what is not.
> > > > >
> > > > > In the current situation, specifically concerning UCoC, is to wait
> > for
> > > > the
> > > > > draft / drafting principle, whatever comes on 24 august. If many
> > people
> > > > > think the product is not acceptable they should open RfC on meta or
> > on
> > > > the
> > > > > projects and see whether there is consensus it is unacceptable. For
> > > these
> > > > > RfCs to happen, but for this people should really follow the
> process,
> > > > read
> > > > > the draft and see what the consequences are. If online 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The Government of Navarre will fund BWUG

2020-07-25 Thread Isaac Olatunde
Hello Galder,

Congratulations to you and the team. Looking forward to reading your report.

Regards

Isaac

On Sat, 25 Jul 2020, 20:38 Denny Vrandečić, 
wrote:

> Congratulations! Looking forward to see the results of this initiative!
>
> On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 2:54 AM Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga <
> galder...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Dear all,
> > It is a real pleasure to announce the agreement reached between Basque
> > Wikimedians User Group and the Government of Navarre to finance projects
> > for the knowledge of Wikimedia platforms in that region.
> >
> > The agreement, of an initial duration of 6 months and endowed with
> > 25,000€, will serve to initiate work related to local knowledge, GLAM and
> > to multiply the educational program that we have already been carrying
> out.
> >
> > You can read more about this agreement in our blog:
> >
> http://wikimedia.eus/2020/07/wikipedian-euskarazko-eduki-digitalak-sortu-zabaldu-eta-kontsumitzea-sustatuko-du-nafarroako-gobernuak/
> >
> > And you can learn more about it in Spanish in the Governments website:
> >
> https://www.navarra.es/es/noticias/2020/07/23/el-gobierno-de-navarra-fomentara-la-creacion-difusion-y-consumo-de-contenidos-digitales-en-euskera-en-wikipedia
> >
> > Sincerely
> >
> > Galder
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Announcing a new Wikimedia project: Abstract Wikipedia

2020-07-02 Thread Isaac Olatunde
Wow! This is a great news.

Thanks for sharing Katherine.

With best wishes

Isaac.

On Thu, 2 Jul 2020, 17:39 Denny Vrandečić,  wrote:

> Katherine, thank you for the warm welcome and your kind words!
>
> I am very happy to be given the opportunity to start this new project, and
> deeply honored by the trust and confidence of the Board and the Foundation.
>
> Thanks to the many who have listened to me talking about this project in
> the last few years, read my papers and plans, commented on them,
> scrutinized them, and offered encouragement, criticism, and advice. Thanks
> to everyone who expressed their support and raised their concerns on the
> proposal page on Meta [1]. It is thanks to you that the Board was confident
> enough to make this decision.
>
> There is a lot of work in front of us, and I will continue to rely on your
> guidance and collective wisdom. We will need to foster a new community.
> Just as with Wikidata, I hope that some of you will become active in the
> new community, and I also want to make sure that we will be welcoming to
> new contributors. We want to extend and grow the Wikimedia movement not
> only with new functionalities, but also with new people.
>
> Settling in this new position will take quite a bit of my attention in the
> next few weeks, so please forgive me if I may be slow with answering your
> questions between now and then. One of the first things we’ll do is to set
> up new communication channels. We will continue discussing the project and
> planning on Meta [2] for now and also welcome you to the new, dedicated
> mailing list [3].
>
> One of our first tasks together will be to find a name for the project. A
> first set of proposals have already been made [4], and I invite you all to
> come up with more ideas. We will start that off in July or August. Did I
> mention that you can join us on Meta [2] to discuss proposals for names,
> the project itself, and much more?
>
> Again, thank you all! I am super excited about figuring this thing out with
> you, and am looking forward to coming back to Wikimedia full-time.
>
> Stay safe,
> Denny
>
> [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Abstract_Wikipedia
> [2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Abstract_Wikipedia
> [3] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/abstract-wikipedia
> [4] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Abstract_Wikipedia/Name
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 2, 2020 at 9:24 AM Brion Vibber  wrote:
>
> > I'm extremely excited about this project!
> >
> > Not only will this be directly useful on its own (and a fascinating
> project
> > in its own right!), but it will help our volunteer editors to ramp up
> good
> > base material to work with on the "prose" Wikipedias we already know and
> > love.
> >
> > The idea is really to make the structured data we've all been putting
> into
> > Wikidata available in a human-readable form at a big scale, that's still
> > able to be shaped and made into something real and readable by human
> > editors. By moving around where in the chain the data gets expressed as
> > human language, we hope to make something that's just as editable but
> much
> > more maintainable in the future and across multiple languages.
> >
> > -- brion
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 2, 2020 at 9:04 AM Katherine Maher 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > (A translatable version of this announcement can be found on Meta [1])
> > >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > It is my honor to introduce Abstract Wikipedia [1], a new project that
> > has
> > > been unanimously approved by the Wikimedia Foundation Board of
> Trustees.
> > > Abstract Wikipedia proposes a new way to generate baseline encyclopedic
> > > content in a multilingual fashion, allowing more contributors and more
> > > readers to share more knowledge in more languages. It is an approach
> that
> > > aims to make cross-lingual cooperation easier on our projects, increase
> > the
> > > sustainability of our movement through expanding access to
> participation,
> > > improve the user experience for readers of all languages, and innovate
> in
> > > free knowledge by connecting some of the strengths of our movement to
> > > create something new.
> > >
> > > This is our first new project in over seven years. Abstract Wikipedia
> was
> > > submitted as a project proposal by Denny Vrandečić in May of 2020 [2]
> > after
> > > years of preparation and research, leading to a detailed plan and
> lively
> > > discussions in the Wikimedia communities. We know that the energy and
> the
> > > creativity of the community often runs up against language barriers,
> and
> > > information that is available in one language may not make it to other
> > > language Wikipedias. Abstract Wikipedia intends to look and feel like a
> > > Wikipedia, but build on the powerful, language-independent conceptual
> > > models of Wikidata, with the goal of letting volunteers create and
> > maintain
> > > Wikipedia articles across our polyglot Wikimedia world.
> > >
> > > The project will allow 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of the Wikimedia Sudan User Group

2020-06-28 Thread Isaac Olatunde
Thanks to AffCom for this recognition. Congratulations to the founding
members.

We look forward to collaborating with you.

Regards,

Isaac


On Sun, 28 Jun 2020, 07:25 Rajeeb Dutta,  wrote:

> What a wonderful news!! Congratulations and all my best wishes to all the
> members of Wikimedia Community User Group Sudan!
>
> Best Regards,
> Rajeeb.
> (U: Marajozkee)
> (Sent from my iPhone pardon the brevity)
>
> > On 28-Jun-2020, at 4:31 AM, Mohammed Bachounda 
> wrote:
> >
> > Welcome Welcome ! \○/ ... Sudanese community with us. with the
> Wikimedian
> > mouvement
> > around the world.
> >
> > مجموعة ويكيميديا السودان معترف بها رسميا مرحبا
> >
> > Mohammed BACHOUNDA
> > leader WIKIDZ Algeria
> >
> >> Le sam. 27 juin 2020 à 22:04, Asaf Bartov  a
> écrit :
> >>
> >> Excellent news!  Welcome, Wikimedia Community User Group Sudan!
> >>
> >> (I hope at least their designated contacts have subscribed to this
> mailing
> >> list.)
> >>
> >>   A.
> >>
> >> Asaf Bartov (he/him/his)
> >>
> >> Senior Program Officer, Emerging Wikimedia Communities
> >>
> >> Wikimedia Foundation 
> >>
> >> Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in
> the
> >> sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality!
> >> https://donate.wikimedia.org
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sat, Jun 27, 2020 at 11:19 PM Rosie Stephenson-Goodknight <
> >> rosiestep.w...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi everyone!
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I'm very happy to announce that the Affiliations Committee has
> recognized
> >>> [1] Wikimedia Sudan User Group [2] as a Wikimedia User Group. The group
> >>> aims to support Sudanese living in Sudan and in the diaspora working to
> >>> help bridge the content gaps about Sudan (and broadly Africa) on the
> web
> >>> through the largest online Encyclopedia, Wikipedia and its sister
> >> projects
> >>> as well as other open projects that allow sharing and accessibility of
> >> free
> >>> knowledge.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Please join me in congratulating the members of this new user group!
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> [1]
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee/Resolutions/Recognition_of_Wikimedia_Community_User_Group_Sudan
> >>>
> >>> [2]
> >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Community_User_Group_Sudan
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Respectfully,
> >>>
> >>> Rosie Stephenson-Goodknight (she/her)
> >>>
> >>> Chair, Affiliations Committee
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Emergency moderation ended

2020-06-23 Thread Isaac Olatunde
Dear Asaf,

Thanks for this update. I trust the judgement of the list moderators.

Regards

Isaac

On Tue, 23 Jun 2020, 22:32 Asaf Bartov,  wrote:

> Dear Wikimedians,
>
> We have ended the emergency moderation of the mailing list
>
> We did our best to process the moderation queue at least several times a
> day, but are happy to return the list to regular operation.
>
> Asaf
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement Strategy: The recommendations are now online

2020-05-12 Thread Isaac Olatunde
Thank you, Katherine, for this update and Nicole (and others) for these
awesome recommendations.

Regards

Isaac

On Tue, 12 May 2020, 11:45 Ilario valdelli,  wrote:

> Thank you Nicole
>
> for all that great job!
>
> On 12/05/2020 12:29, Nicole Ebber wrote:
> > Thanks, Anders and Anton, for your uplifting feedback.
> >
> > We'll update the overview section right away.
> >
> > We have documented the changes in this change log, I hope this is
> helpful:
> >
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Reports/Finalization_Change_Log_(January_-_April_2020)
> >
> > Best wishes,
> > Nicole
> >
> >
> >
> --
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Netha wins 2020 RedHat Women in Open Source Award!

2020-04-29 Thread Isaac Olatunde
Congratulations to Netha. This ward is inspiring.

Regards

Isaac


https://youtu.be/gaFV_LPbSfM


On Wed, 29 Apr 2020, 16:18 Subhashish,  wrote:

> Hope everyone is keeping safe and well in a difficult time like now. There
> is a good news - Netha Hussain has won the 2020 RedHat Women in Open Source
> Award. [1][2]
>
> Congratulations Netha - this is such a proud moment for all of us!
>
> Also, see WikiProject COVID-19, where Netha is a leader, for those who are
> interested to contribute on coronavirus-related articles:
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_COVID-19
>
> 1. https://www.redhat.com/en/about/women-in-open-source
> 2. https://twitter.com/Wikimedia/status/1255513602951430145
>
> Subha
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Launch of Wikimedia Affiliates Data Portal

2020-03-07 Thread Isaac Olatunde
Hello Dumi,

Thank you and Derrick for this work. I look forward to the seminar.

Regards

Isaac

On Sat, 7 Mar 2020, 20:10 Michael Peel,  wrote:

> Hi Dumi,
>
> This looks interesting, but I’m worried that the WMF is still trying to
> exclude itself from reporting its metrics. Will this new tool also make it
> easier for the WMF to post its reports?
>
> Thanks,
> Mike
>
> > On 6 Mar 2020, at 17:51, Dumisani Ndubane 
> wrote:
> >
> > TL;DR: Launch of Wikimedia Affiliates Data Portal
> >
> > We are launching a new form-based annual reporting system for Wikimedia
> > affiliates [1], as well as a basic Affiliates data query system. We would
> > love your feedback.
> > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> - -
> > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> >
> > Hello, Affiliate Leaders & Community Members,
> >
> > Tired of the affiliate reports [2] wiki table of death? SO are we!
> >
> > The Learning & Evaluation team is pleased to announce the launch of the
> > Wikimedia Affiliates Data (WAD) Portal [1]. This portal will serve three
> > purposes as follows:
> >
> >   1. It introduces a new Object-Oriented User Interface (OOUI) [3]
> >   form-based report submission interface for annual activity and
> financial
> >   reports. This replaces the wiki mark-up based submission via the
> >   [[Reports]] page on meta.
> >   2. It introduces the ability for Organizations to update their
> >   information using OOUI forms on the fly.
> >   3. It introduces a new simple data query form that allows anyone
> >   logged-in to their public wiki accounts to run a query and view
> results on
> >   available Affiliates data. The query tool will be improved in the
> coming
> >   financial year, as we work to code data in Affiliate reports into
> >   structured data, to allow for richer analysis.
> >
> >
> > The [[Reports]] page on meta will continue to be visible on meta until
> the
> > end of June 2020, after which it will be protected and archived. All
> > organizations that are due to submit annual reports at the end of March
> are
> > encouraged to use the new report submission forms. If you do use the new
> > forms, please share any feedback you have about this new process on the
> > Portal’s talk page
> >
> > We will hold training seminars for those who wish to be onboarded to the
> > submission forms and the Query system during the months of March and
> April
> > 2020 (Dates will be communicated soon).
> >
> > We have taken time to pre-populate the system with basic information
> about
> > each recognized Wikimedia affiliate, however, should you find any
> incorrect
> > or outdated information about your group, please use the organization
> > information page[4] to provide updated information.
> >
> > We trust that you will enjoy the new portal and that you will find it
> > useful. Should you have any problems or encounter bugs in the new forms,
> > please use the Portal talk page [5] to log these, or to simply ask
> > questions. We will collect similar questions to create an FAQ page in due
> > time.
> >
> > Kindest regards
> >
> > *Dumisani Ndubane* - Lead Designer
> > *Derick Alangi* - Software Developer
> > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> > *Learning & Evaluation team*
> > Wikimedia Foundation
> >
> > *Links:*
> > [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Affiliates_Data_Portal
> > [2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Reports
> > [3] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/OOUI
> > [4]
> >
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> > [5]
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of the Wiki Cemeteries User Group

2020-02-18 Thread Isaac Olatunde
You are probably responding in your personal capacity and not as an AffCom
member. So, I am going to take this as your personal opinion. But if the
intention is to begin to recognize country-specific or region-specific
cemeteries, I doubt you will be able to manage the potential conflicts that
may arise from such recognition in countries with multiple user groups
already.

Regards

On Tue, Feb 18, 2020 at 2:05 AM Camelia Boban 
wrote:

> @Isaac Why not ?
>
> Camelia
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Il giorno mar 18 feb 2020 alle ore 14:00 Isaac Olatunde <
> reachout2is...@gmail.com> ha scritto:
>
>> Congratulations to the founding members. @Rosie, I hope we will not begin
>> to see country-specific cementeries like "Wiki Cemeteries User Group
>> Nigeria", "Wiki Cementeries User Group Africa" etc for example.
>>
>> Regards?
>> Isaac
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 18, 2020 at 1:47 AM Camelia Boban 
>> wrote:
>>
>> > @Ciell
>> > As one of who joined the group, I can say it is not the charm of the
>> > cemetery itself, but the particularities of the local culture and the
>> > history (many of the personalities are buried, often the texts on the
>> > funeral stones are real poems and the funeral stones themselves are
>> > cultural heritage).
>> > Just think to Campo Verano
>> > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campo_Verano> and Protestant
>> > Cimitery <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protestant_Cemetery,_Rome>
>> (Keats,
>> > Shelley, Gramsci and many other) in Rome, Staglieno
>> > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monumental_Cemetery_of_Staglieno> in
>> > Genoa, Merry
>> > Cimitery <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merry_Cemetery> in Săpânța
>> > (Romania) etc.
>> >
>> > Camelia
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > *Camelia Boban*
>> >
>> > *| Java EE Developer |*
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > *Affiliations Committee - **Wikimedia Foundation*
>> > Diversity WG for Wikimedia Strategy 2030
>> > *Interwiki Women
>> > <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Interwiki_Women_Collaboration> |
>> **Wiki
>> > Loves Sport <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiki_Loves_Sport> | Wiki
>> > Loves
>> > Fashion <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiki_Loves_Fashion>*
>> > WMIT <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Italia> - WMSE
>> > <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Sverige> - WMAR
>> > <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Argentina> - WMCH
>> > <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_CH> Member
>> >
>> > M. +39 3383385545
>> > camelia.bo...@gmail.com
>> > *Aissa Technologies* <http://aissatechnologies.eu/>* | *Twitter
>> > <https://twitter.com/cameliaboban> *|* *LinkedIn
>> > <https://www.linkedin.com/in/camelia-boban-31319122>*
>> > *Wikipedia <https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Camelia.boban> **|
>> > **WikiDonne
>> > UG <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiDonne>* | *WikiDonne Project
>> > <https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progetto:WikiDonne> *
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Il giorno mar 18 feb 2020 alle ore 13:27 Ciell Wikipedia <
>> > ciell.wikipe...@gmail.com> ha scritto:
>> >
>> > > What?? There are more Wikipedians with this craaazy fascination for
>> > > cemeteries and burial ceremonies?? 
>> > >
>> > > Congratulations on your recognition as a UG, and I'll surely be in
>> touch.
>> > >
>> > > Best,
>> > > Ciell
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Op di 18 feb. 2020 02:28 schreef Rosie Stephenson-Goodknight <
>> > > rosiestep.w...@gmail.com>:
>> > >
>> > > > Hi everyone!
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > I'm very happy to announce that the Affiliations Committee has
>> > recognized
>> > > > [1] Wiki Cemeteries User Group [2] as a Wikimedia User Group. The
>> group
>> > > > aims to collaborate around the scope of cemeteries with existing
>> > > > Affiliates; connect with new partners and editors, especially in the
>> > > field
>> > > > of traditional genealogy; understand cultural sensitivities around
>> the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of the Wiki Cemeteries User Group

2020-02-18 Thread Isaac Olatunde
Congratulations to the founding members. @Rosie, I hope we will not begin
to see country-specific cementeries like "Wiki Cemeteries User Group
Nigeria", "Wiki Cementeries User Group Africa" etc for example.

Regards?
Isaac

On Tue, Feb 18, 2020 at 1:47 AM Camelia Boban 
wrote:

> @Ciell
> As one of who joined the group, I can say it is not the charm of the
> cemetery itself, but the particularities of the local culture and the
> history (many of the personalities are buried, often the texts on the
> funeral stones are real poems and the funeral stones themselves are
> cultural heritage).
> Just think to Campo Verano
>  and Protestant
> Cimitery  (Keats,
> Shelley, Gramsci and many other) in Rome, Staglieno
>  in
> Genoa, Merry
> Cimitery  in Săpânța
> (Romania) etc.
>
> Camelia
>
>
> --
> *Camelia Boban*
>
> *| Java EE Developer |*
>
>
>
> *Affiliations Committee - **Wikimedia Foundation*
> Diversity WG for Wikimedia Strategy 2030
> *Interwiki Women
>  | **Wiki
> Loves Sport  | Wiki
> Loves
> Fashion *
> WMIT  - WMSE
>  - WMAR
>  - WMCH
>  Member
>
> M. +39 3383385545
> camelia.bo...@gmail.com
> *Aissa Technologies* * | *Twitter
>  *|* *LinkedIn
> *
> *Wikipedia  **|
> **WikiDonne
> UG * | *WikiDonne Project
>  *
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Il giorno mar 18 feb 2020 alle ore 13:27 Ciell Wikipedia <
> ciell.wikipe...@gmail.com> ha scritto:
>
> > What?? There are more Wikipedians with this craaazy fascination for
> > cemeteries and burial ceremonies?? 
> >
> > Congratulations on your recognition as a UG, and I'll surely be in touch.
> >
> > Best,
> > Ciell
> >
> >
> > Op di 18 feb. 2020 02:28 schreef Rosie Stephenson-Goodknight <
> > rosiestep.w...@gmail.com>:
> >
> > > Hi everyone!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I'm very happy to announce that the Affiliations Committee has
> recognized
> > > [1] Wiki Cemeteries User Group [2] as a Wikimedia User Group. The group
> > > aims to collaborate around the scope of cemeteries with existing
> > > Affiliates; connect with new partners and editors, especially in the
> > field
> > > of traditional genealogy; understand cultural sensitivities around the
> > > theme of cemeteries; understand cemetery culture, including the role of
> > > caretakers, specialty items (e.g. flags for veterans, flower wreaths),
> > and
> > > so forth.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Please join me in congratulating the members of this new user group!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Rosie Stephenson-Goodknight
> > >
> > > Chair, Affiliations Committee
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [1]
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee/Resolutions/Recognition_of_Wiki_Cemeteries_User_Group
> > >
> > > [2]  https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiki_Cemeteries_User_Group
> > >
> > > 
> > >
> > > 
> > >
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Affiliates] Recognition of the Wikimedians of Mali User Group

2019-11-08 Thread Isaac Olatunde
Congratulations to Wikimedians of Mali. We look toward to collaborating
with you.

Regards

Isaac

On Fri, Nov 8, 2019, 6:13 PM Kirill Lokshin  Hi everyone!
>
> I'm very happy to announce that the Affiliations Committee has recognized
> [1] the Wikimedians of Mali User Group [2] as a Wikimedia User Group. The
> group aims to promote the Wikimedia Foundation and its projects in Mali,
> and to support and encourage people to collect, develop and disseminate
> knowledge and other educational, cultural and historic content under free
> licenses or in the public domain.
>
> Please join me in congratulating the members of this new user group!
>
> Regards,
> Kirill Lokshin
> Chair, Affiliations Committee
>
> [1]
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee/Resolutions/Recognition_of_Wikimedians_of_Mali_User_Group
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [LGBT] Best practices for awarding scholarships

2019-10-09 Thread Isaac Olatunde
I completely agree with Risker here. In the recent time, most (if not all)
Wikipedian of the year award recipients now have a Wikipedia article.

One would wonder if Wikipedia of the year award confers notability.

This is not to disrespect our WOTY but I do honestly feel that users who
are not notable apart from receiving the award does not merit a Wikipedia
article.

Regards,

Isaac

On Wed, Oct 9, 2019, 4:10 PM Risker  I've never created a Wikidata profile about anyone, not even someone who is
> widely known.  I've never created or edited a biographical article about
> someone who isn't really obviously notable, and who has a broad and widely
> known profile as verified in multiple non-Wikimedia (or
> Wikipedia/Wikimedia-related) sources.
>
> No, I would never create an article about a Wikimedian - or a Wikidata
> profile either - unless they are clearly and obviously notable outside of
> our little microcosm.  Frankly, with very few exceptions, almost nobody
> whose "notability" is primarily related to this movement is actually
> notable in the strictest reading of the policies of most of our Wikipedia
> projects.  As far as I'm concerned, most of the Wikipedia/Wikimedia/other
> project-related articles on most of our projects are a prime example of
> navel-gazing rather than actual notability.
>
> Further, I think it's terrible use of Wikidata to use it to store what are
> essentially the personnel records of Wikimedia volunteers.
>
> Risker/Anne
>
>
>
> On Wed, 9 Oct 2019 at 09:52, Henry Wood  wrote:
>
> > Risker
> >
> > > I'm pretty shocked at this idea; in fact, if someone created a Wikidata
> > > profile about me, I'd have it taken down under applicable legislation.
> >
> > ... and yet you are an energetic volunteer for projects that assert
> > the right to do that to other people?
> >
> > Henry
> >
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [African Wikimedians] [Wikipedia-l] Join the Months of African Cinema Global Edit-a-Thon

2019-09-24 Thread Isaac Olatunde
Dear Antolepore,

It does seem that you want something fixed on Wikipedia but I am not quiet
sure your current approach would be productive. Please do not start
thinking that any of the people on this list would obey your order. I'd
encourage you to consider your tone and immediately stop the threat and
think of a civil approach to resolving the problem. If you need the help of
one or more of our volunteers on this mailing list, politely request for
assistant.

Thank you

Isaac



On Tue, Sep 24, 2019, 8:36 PM antolepore [gmail.com]  Please remove all the filters that Vituzzo, the administrator of the
> Italian version of Wikipedia, put on both the antolep...@gmail.com
> account and all the IPs that he also blocked in IRC because he made a mess.
> The carabinieri and the state police are investigating the case. Please do
> as I say! Thanks
>
> Il giorno mar 24 set 2019 alle ore 19:20 Sam Oyeyele 
> ha scritto:
>
>> Greetings!
>>
>> Apologies for cross-posting. After a successful first iteration of the
>> “Months of African Cinema” last year, we are happy to announce that it will
>> be happening again this year, starting from October 1! In the 2018 edition
>> of the contest, about 600 Wikipedia articles were created in at least 8
>> languages. There were also contributions to Wikidata and Wikimedia commons,
>> which brought the total number of wikimedia pages created during the
>> contest to over 1,000. About 9 in-person events were also organised for the
>> edit-a-thon in different parts of the world.
>>
>> The contest is organized by a Wikimedia project called "The AfroCine
>> Project",[1] which is dedicated to improving the coverage of the history,
>> works, people, places, and events, that are associated with the cinema,
>> theatre and arts of Africa, African countries, the Caribbean, and the
>> diaspora.
>>
>> If you would love to join this exciting event, please list your username
>> as a participant on the English Wikipedia contest page.[2] If you would
>> love to lead this contest for your country or community, please list your
>> name in the coordinators page here.[3] The rapid grants team would be
>> accepting proposals throughout October and November, in case you'd need
>> funds to run local edit-a-thons or some other activities related to this
>> event. Upon listing your name on the coordinators' page, you'd be contacted
>> to talk about the resources you'd need to run the event in your community.
>> You can also contact me directly for any clarifications.
>>
>> Finally, We also need volunteers to handle some aspects of the AfroCine
>> project. These aspects include:
>>
>> 1. Community Liaison: This role essentially involves closely engaging
>> with local communities to support their activities within the scope of
>> Afrocine.
>>
>> 2. Communications: This involves the communications aspects of the
>> project. Sharing relevant information on mailing lists and social media
>> would be the responsibility of this person.
>>
>> 3. MAC Jury: This role involves joining the jury of Months of African
>> Cinema contest. We need as many people as we can get :).
>>
>> 4. Tools: Going forward, we would need relevant tools to better track the
>> metrics and also analyse the general impact of these events. We are calling
>> for Wikimedia volunteers who can navigate wikimedia tools that can be
>> useful for the project.
>>
>> If you would love to help with any of these roles, or some other roles
>> that have not been mentioned, please contact me directly.
>>
>> If you have further questions, complaints, suggestions, etc., please
>> reach out to me personally or right here on the mailing list or the project
>> talkpages.
>>
>> Thank you!
>>
>> Sam Oyeyele.
>>
>> [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/The_AfroCine_Project
>> [2]
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_AfroCine/Months_of_African_Cinema#Participants
>> [3]
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcing the extension of funding by the Basque Government

2019-09-18 Thread Isaac Olatunde
Good news and thanks for sharing. We'd like to replicate this in our
country.

Regards

Isaac

On Wed, Sep 18, 2019, 5:12 PM Florencia Claes  Great news, Galder  And congrats for your fabulous work!
>
> El mié., 18 sept. 2019 a las 16:18, Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga (<
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>
> > Dear wikimedians,
> > Three years have gone since we started with the Basque Wikimedians User
> > Group Education Program, funded by the Basque Government. After two years
> > and a half of great enhancing of Basque Wikipedia (more than 2.500
> students
> > adding more than 1.5 million words on fundamental topics) the Basque
> > Government has announce us today the extension of the funding for four
> more
> > years.
> >
> > In this four years we will try to strengthen our Educaton Program but
> also
> > open to new areas in order to make our knowledge equity vision possible.
> By
> > 2024 we will have taken sure steps towards creating a free knowledge
> > ecosystem centered at Wikimedia.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community feedback and next steps on movement brand proposal

2019-09-06 Thread Isaac Olatunde
We sometimes spend several minutes trying to explain to potentials partners
the difference between Wikipedia and Wikimedia and the relationship between
them.

In most cases we just use "Wikipedia" so as to not confuse them.

Of course some people would share an opposing view for many reasons but I
do think this rebranding is important.

Regards

Isaac

On Fri, Sep 6, 2019, 9:29 PM Strainu  Pe vineri, 6 septembrie 2019, Adrian Raddatz  a
> scris:
>
> > Yet another potentially good idea from the Foundation killed by the usual
> > atrocious style of stakeholder management. No benefits framed for the
> > community,
>
>
>
> >
> > no indication that this change is coming from the bottom up,
>
>
> Huh? Have you seriously never seen people asking the difference between
> Wikipedia and Wikimedia or wiki(m|p) edians complaining about how hard it
> is to explain that difference?
>
> This change is very much a bottom up one, even if it is pushed by the WMF
> using corporate procedures rather than by the community using an RfC.
>
>
>
> > no
> > assurance that this change happens or not based on the results of the
> > consultation.
>
>
> I would say that it was pretty clear the change will happen :)
>
> Strainu
>
> >
> > You can't figure out the benefits to the community - your key stakeholder
> > group - entirely as part of the consultation. You need to frame the
> > consultation as figuring out how to achieve pre-identified benefits to
> your
> > stakeholders in the optimal way. You should also try to get buy-in from
> key
> > community groups *before* you start consulting, and use them as part of
> the
> > consultation, so it stops being Foundation vs. the community and turns
> into
> > the Foundation collaboratively supporting community-led ideas.
> >
> > It pains me to see this being done poorly, time and time again.
> >
> > Adrian Raddatz
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 6, 2019 at 3:28 PM Paulo Santos Perneta <
> > paulospern...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > After the last disastrous WMF intervention in Wikipedia - Framgate - I
> > > believe the timing is just perfect for the WMF to go forward with this
> > fit
> > > of creativity of branding themselves as the "Wikipedia Foundation".
> > >
> > > It's one after another, and never stops.
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > Paulo
> > >
> > > Yaroslav Blanter  escreveu no dia sexta, 6/09/2019
> > à(s)
> > > 18:25:
> > >
> > > > I agree with Fae. I strongly oppose the proposal, and I somehow used
> to
> > > > assume that our opinion would be asked in a structured way.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers
> > > > Yaroslav
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Sep 6, 2019 at 7:03 PM Fæ  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > If the WMF is going to make statements that are not derived from
> all
> > > > > the demonstrable facts, perhaps the community should now respond
> with
> > > > > a completely unambiguous RFC on meta so there can be no doubt?
> > > > >
> > > > > Something along the lines of:
> > > > > "The WMF have employed Wolff Olins for rebranding advice, and they
> > > > > recommend that Wikimedia rebrands itself around the word
> "Wikipedia"
> > > > > and projects like Wikimedia Commons are renamed to "Wikicommons" to
> > > > > ensure marketing of the projects can easily be delivered by the
> WMF.
> > > > > Do you support or oppose this rebranding programme?"
> > > > >
> > > > > With a straightforward RFC to keep on linking to in every
> discussion
> > > > > on every venue, we might then have tangible evidence of whether
> > "There
> > > > > is considerable support for the branding proposal" or "There is
> > > > > considerable opposition for the branding proposal" is factual.
> Rather
> > > > > than drifting along for months with the debate and unhappiness that
> > > > > comes from arguing both sides of a mostly political case without
> > > > > firmly verifiable evidence available or relying on complex and less
> > > > > credible stats from surveys that are likely to suffer from embedded
> > > > > bias, especially considering the already banked investment in
> > > > > consultancy that drives the need to change something, to prove the
> > > > > spent money had impact and "value".
> > > > >
> > > > > P.S. Zack and others, it's best to avoid the word "collaboration"
> > when
> > > > > communicating with an international group. It has unfortunate
> history
> > > > > and gives the impression that you are quoting views from
> > collaborators
> > > > > rather than holding open collegial discussion.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > Fae
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, 6 Sep 2019 at 17:19, Diane Ranville <
> > > dranville-...@wikimedia.org
> > > > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I agree with Pine.
> > > > > > There is a majority of people who actually oppose the rebranding
> > > > > > proposition.
> > > > > > I don't quite understand why this is still going forward (except
> > that
> > > > it
> > > > > is
> > > > > > difficult to acknowledge a mistake and take steps backwards - but
> > it
> 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Departing the WMF, the Future of The Wikipedia Library, and What's Next?

2019-09-06 Thread Isaac Olatunde
Jake, we are really going to miss you. You are an inspiration and a role
model.

Today, I am happy to say that the discussion we had in 2015 about building
an active Wikimedia movement/community in Nigeria was productive.

After the discussion we had, I began to contact Wikipedia editors from
Nigeria via the "email this user" function. That was how I met Olaniyan
Olushola who also share the same mission. We began to preach Wikipedia from
one institutions to another, partner with several organizations to recruit
volunteers.

Jake, today Wikimedia movement is strong in Nigeria with 3 established user
groups, 6 Wikimedia Fan Clubs, 5 Wikimedia Hubs and more than a hundred
volunteer contributors.

Thank you for all your contributions. They will forever be remembered and
you'll always have a special place in my heart.

Farewell

Isaac



On Fri, Sep 6, 2019, 5:14 PM Jake Orlowitz  Dear Wiki-Friends,
>
> September 6th marks the end of my time at the Wikimedia Foundation.
>
> At my center has been the belief that I serve the movement above all else.
> This was what motivated the creation of a research service for editors in
> the first place. Today, it leaves me to look outside the Foundation to how
> I can best influence and impact change for the open knowledge community,
> and our broadly fractured society.
>
> When I founded The Wikipedia Library in 2011, the course of my life
> changed. I became a grantee with an Individual Engagement Grant, guided by
> Siko Bouterse and Anasuya Sengupta, to expand TWL. It was a dream fulfilled
> to be asked to join the Wikimedia Foundation full-time in 2014 to establish
> the program worldwide.
>
> With much mentorship and help, we grew TWL from a one-man, English-only
> publisher signup project into an international, multilingual outreach
> effort with a global campaign, national convenings, and a functioning
> digital library stocked with 100,000 free-to-read scholarly journals. Those
> sources can be used to verify information, write new articles, close
> content gaps, and remedy systemic bias.
>
>
> Now, librarians are as likely to be supporters and contributors as they
> used to be critics. The movement is full of 'wikibrarians', from the
> 200-member Wikimedia and Libraries User Group to the 2000 person Wikimedia
> + Libraries Facebook Group. Conferences around the world have strong
> advocates for the intersection and alliance of Wikipedia and Libraries.
>
> Along the way I had the true privilege of building a team that gave me
> confidence and extremely good company. It's my conviction that good work is
> calm, full of humor, and has care for people at its core. I found that
> generous spirit heartily alive in my team at The Wikipedia Library. I
> cannot thank them enough.
>
> The work is not yet finished and yet it is in good hands. With Sam Walton
> in charge of managing The Wikipedia Library, Felix Nartey and Aaron Vasanth
> running global outreach, Jason Sherman developing the Library Card
> Platform, and a whole crew of coordinated volunteers handling reference
> services…much more is still to come.
>
>
> You can reach out to TWL any time at wikipedialibr...@wikimedia.org.
>
> As I look ahead to new vistas, I leave with questions and hope to hear your
> thoughts. What needs to be done next? Who could use the most support? Which
> organizations are ripe for change? What capacity still needs to be created?
> Where can I best advocate and help grow? How can we collaborate?
>
>
> Email me at jorlow...@gmail.com and share what's on your mind, or just say
> hello.
>
>
> It's been a true pleasure to serve our beautiful, messy movement: I
> couldn't be more excited to join its ranks again.
>
>
> Thanks and cheers,
>
>
> 
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Welcoming Ryan Merkley to the Wikimedia Foundation

2019-08-15 Thread Isaac Olatunde
Good news Katherine. I wish you all the best in your new role Merkley.

Regards,

Isaac

On Thu, Aug 15, 2019, 8:56 AM Itzik - Wikimedia Israel <
it...@wikimedia.org.il wrote:

> Such great news! Welcome, Ryan!
>
>
>
> *Itzik Edri*
> Chairperson (volunteer)
> it...@wikimedia.org.il
> +972-54-5878078
>
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 14, 2019 at 1:02 AM Katherine Maher 
> wrote:
>
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > I’m excited to let you all know that Ryan Merkley, formerly CEO of
> Creative
> > Commons, is joining the Wikimedia Foundation as my new chief of staff.
> >
> > Many of you have met Ryan before -- at CC Summit, Wikimania, Wikimedia
> > Summit, or MozFest. He’s a leader in open source, open knowledge, and
> > free-culture communities, and for the past five years, he’s been the CEO
> of
> > Creative Commons, initiating programs like CC search to index all 1.6
> > billion licensed works online. He’s passionate about the power of the
> > commons, and the role that everyone can play in making it sustainable and
> > open to all. I couldn’t be happier he’s now bringing this passion and
> > experience to our movement.
> >
> > In Ryan’s own words, “My heart has always been in open communities, and
> >  the power of collective acts --  that is, the things that people can
> only
> > do when they work together, like building a commons of free knowledge for
> > every person.”
> >
> > For now, Ryan’s two top priorities will be bolstering the work of the
> > movement strategy team and supporting the Board. He’ll support the
> strategy
> > core team to move the Working Group recommendations into implementation
> > within the community and Foundation over the course of the coming year.
> > He’ll also serve as Board liaison to the Board of Trustees, strengthening
> > the connections, communications, and coordination between Trustees and
> the
> > Foundation. Internally, he’ll support the office of the Executive
> Director,
> > acting in my stead on various projects.
> >
> > I’m excited by this new role for an old friend of the open community.
> Ryan
> > knows our movement well. He has spent many hours with many Wikimedians,
> and
> > understands the centrality of the community to the Wikimedia mission and
> > identity. His background as a partner to Wikimedia, and a leader in the
> > broader open movement will be invaluable to our work, and confirmation of
> > the importance of community experience in Foundation leadership.
> >
> > Ryan doesn’t start in his new role until Monday, September 16th. However,
> > he will be at Wikimania, so for those of you attending, please say hi,
> and
> > join me in welcoming him to Wikimedia!
> >
> > Katherine
> >
> > P.S. This announcement can also be found on our news page:
> >
> >
> https://wikimediafoundation.org/news/2019/08/13/wikimedia-foundation-welcomes-ryan-merkley-as-chief-of-staff-to-the-office-of-the-executive-director
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement Strategy: Draft recommendations are here!

2019-08-10 Thread Isaac Olatunde
I believe there are related discussion pages, Todd. Do you think there
should have been separate pages for discussion aside the talk pages?

Regards,

Isaac.

On Sat, Aug 10, 2019, 2:29 PM Szymon Grabarczuk  How about talk pages?
>
> Z poważaniem / Kind regards
>
> *Szymon Grabarczuk*
> userpage: pl.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Tar_Lócesilion
> 
> 
>
> ᐧ
>
> On Sat, 10 Aug 2019 at 14:28, Todd Allen  wrote:
>
> > There does not seem to be anywhere to comment on these, which there
> should
> > be. I saw at least one which is highly objectionable and which I would
> like
> > to object to.
> >
> > Todd
> >
> > On Fri, Aug 9, 2019 at 12:37 PM Nicole Ebber 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Dear fellow Wikimedians,
> > >
> > > They’re here! [1] We are delighted to announce the first round of
> > > draft recommendations for structural change within our movement have
> > > been published. The recommendations have been developed by the nine
> > > Wikimedia 2030 working groups and are a key tool to help us build the
> > > future of our movement.
> > >
> > > Working group members have been working tirelessly for a year to
> > > research the movement, analyze community input shared via community
> > > conversations, and gain insight into external trends. A huge thank you
> > > to each and every member for helping us reach this key milestone.
> > >
> > > The draft recommendations are a first look at ways we can adapt our
> > > movement’s structures to help us advance in our strategic direction.
> > > They are the starting point for conversations about what kind of
> > > future we want to create together.
> > >
> > > The recommendations are not final. In order to get them to that stage,
> > > your input is needed! We would like to hear from you all what these
> > > changes would mean for you in your local or thematic context, what do
> > > you like about them, and where you potentially see any red flags. And
> > > of course, always critically question whether these recommendations
> > > support the strategic direction.
> > >
> > > There are a few ways to do this:
> > > * Read through the recommendations online and provide your input
> > > directly on Meta. [2]
> > > * If you will be at Wikimania, join us in the Wikimedia 2030 space. [3]
> > > * Attend a Strategy Salon hosted by an affiliate where you live. [4]
> > > * Reach out to a Strategy Liaison in your language to share feedback,
> > > or lead a conversation of your own. [5]
> > >
> > > Over the next month, working groups will take the input they receive
> > > into the recommendations, alongside external advice and research, and
> > > use it to refine and finalize them. Share your views, and help shape
> > > what Wikimedia will look like in 2030 and beyond.
> > >
> > > If you have any questions or feedback, please feel free to get in
> touch.
> > >
> > > Best wishes,
> > >
> > > Nicole
> > >
> > > [1]
> > >
> >
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Recommendations
> > > [2]
> > >
> >
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Recommendations
> > > [3] https://wikimania.wikimedia.org/wiki/2019:Wikimedia_2030
> > > [4]
> > >
> >
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/2019_Community_Conversations/Strategy_Salons
> > > [5]
> > >
> >
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/People/Community_Strategy_Liaisons
> > >
> > > --
> > > Nicole Ebber
> > > Adviser International Relations
> > > Program Manager Wikimedia 2030 Movement Strategy
> > > Wikimedia Deutschland e. V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin
> > > Tel. (030) 219 158 26-0
> > > https://wikimedia.de
> > >
> > > Unsere Vision ist eine Welt, in der alle Menschen am Wissen der
> > > Menschheit teilhaben, es nutzen und mehren können. Helfen Sie uns
> > > dabei! https://spenden.wikimedia.de
> > >
> > > Wikimedia Deutschland — Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Banning real identities

2019-07-05 Thread Isaac Olatunde
Doxxing is often considered as harassment. See:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Harassment#Posting_of_personal_information


Isaac

On Fri, Jul 5, 2019, 12:30 PM Todd Allen  Doxing means to reveal personal data about someone against their wishes. So
> if you found out my address and telephone number and posted it to this
> thread, that would be doxing me.
>
> On Fri, Jul 5, 2019, 5:26 AM Thyge  wrote:
>
> > - and please explain the meaning of 'doxxed" as well. Is that US slang?
> >
> > Thyge - Sir48
> >
> > Den fre. 5. jul. 2019 kl. 11.53 skrev Thomas Townsend <
> > homesec1...@gmail.com
> > >:
> >
> > > Alphos
> > >
> > > You don;t explain why being "doxxed" was a bad thing for you, or
> > > indeed what the downside is for anyone,  You simply assert that it is
> > > a Bad Thing and must not happen.  Would you like to give your reasons
> > > for those assertions?
> > >
> > > The Turnip
> > >
> > > On Thu, 4 Jul 2019 at 15:12, Alphos OGame 
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I was doxxed by someone in the movement a few years ago, and I cannot
> > > stress this enough : WE MUST NOT DOXX PEOPLE.
> > > > It doesn't matter how good our intentions are.
> > > > It doesn't matter how bad these people are.
> > > > We as a community choose to block, ban, lock, whether or not
> globally,
> > > the accounts of people we deem unable to contribute.
> > > > We must not disclose unilaterally after the fact the identity of a
> > > contributor. And not only because we may well have no clue about it. It
> > may
> > > get them jailed for the wrong reasons. It may get them harmed for their
> > > genuine contributions.
> > > > That MUST NOT (rfc2119 [1]) be how we handle things.
> > > > Once again, I cannot stress this enough.
> > > >
> > > > Do not do this. This is a bad idea on so many levels. Pretty much all
> > of
> > > them, really.
> > > >
> > > > Alphos
> > > >
> > > > [1] https://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2119.txt
> > > >
> > > > Le 2 juil. 2019 à 08:17, Thomas Townsend  a
> > > écrit :
> > > >
> > > > >> Why do you think this is important and what real purpose do you
> > think
> > > this
> > > > >> will serve?
> > > > >
> > > > > A good question.  The stated object of global bans is "to help
> assure
> > > > > the safety of users of the Wikimedia projects and/or assist in
> > > > > preventing prohibited behavior that hinders dialogue, project
> > > > > development and expansion".  Identifying those persons banned as
> > fully
> > > > > as possible helps to achieve that assurance and protect the
> > community.
> > > > >
> > > > > The Turnip.
> > > > >
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Banning real identities

2019-07-01 Thread Isaac Olatunde
Why do you think this is important and what real purpose do you think this
will serve? Well, I don't think WMF would log  global banned users by their
real for  a number of reasons and I don't see any reason why they should
start doing that.

Regards,

Isaac
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fram en.wp office yearlock block

2019-06-28 Thread Isaac Olatunde
Nobody seems to be insinuating that Fram is lying. It's just plain
stupidity to demonize the WMF's action solely on their part of the story
alone. Fram has penchant  for irritating  people he disagrees  with and
it's possible they have crossed the line.

Recently there was an AbCom case against Rama,  an English Wikipedia
administrator (now desysoped),  Commons administrator and oversighter.
While the case was ongoing,  Fram began to follow this user to an extent
that they began to mass-nominate for deletion the user's uploads on
Commons, a behavior the user considered as stalking and harassment. Some
users including myself requested that Fram stay away from Rama and their
uploads. A behavior  like this would normally  get users blocked but
nobody  felt the reason to ban or blocked Fram partly because they wear the
English Wikipedia's admin hat.

This incident is barely a month ago.

I am unsure if this form part of the reasons for the ban but I have no
enough reasons to think that the ban was unjustifiable.


Regards,

Isaac


On Fri, Jun 28, 2019, 10:15 AM Benjamin Ikuta 
>
>
> Why do you doubt Fram? What do you think happened? And why can't the WMF
> say even so much as a, "That's not accurate."?
>
> You really think he's just outright lying?
>
>
>
> On Jun 14, 2019, at 4:03 PM, David Gerard  wrote:
>
> > If you really think Fram's framing of events here is even plausible,
> > let alone the story, then you're less competent than I have previously
> > considered you to be.
> >
> > On Fri, 14 Jun 2019 at 18:47, Todd Allen  wrote:
> >>
> >> According to Fram, the WMF told him his "interaction ban" was for
> >> maintenance tagging two articles, yes (and when I looked at the diffs,
> the
> >> maintenance tags were accurate and necessary). So, either Fram is lying
> or
> >> omitting something (and the WMF, for whatever reason, is not challenging
> >> him on it), the WMF lied to Fram, or they did indeed sanction him for
> what
> >> they told him they sanctioned him for.
> >>
> >> Todd
> >>
> >> On Fri, Jun 14, 2019 at 4:37 AM David Gerard  wrote:
> >>
> >>> and you're *seriously* positing that the WMF would ban an admin for
> >>> doing only what you describe?
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, 14 Jun 2019 at 11:32, Todd Allen  wrote:
> 
>  The only case of "harassment" apparently cited here was "I kept
> writing
>  garbage articles, and someone kept flagging them as garbage!
> Harassment!
>  Bad!"
> 
>  If you don't want your articles to be flagged as garbage, FIND YOUR
> >>> SOURCES
>  PRIOR TO WRITING THEM, AND CITE THEM. That's rather a requirement
> anyway.
>  The editor in question repeatedly failed to do that, repeatedly had
> her
>  articles flagged for failure to do that, and regarded that as
> >>> "harassment"
>  rather than her own failure to follow the English Wikipedia's
> policies.
>  Next time, she needs to find the sources first, and write the article
> >>> only
>  after she has them in hand.
> 
>  Todd
> 
>  On Thu, Jun 13, 2019 at 10:14 AM Robert Fernandez <
> >>> wikigamal...@gmail.com>
>  wrote:
> 
> > If someone is able to harass someone for years and nothing is done
> then
> > clearly community procedures are not “perfectly adequate”
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 13, 2019 at 11:36 AM Fæ  wrote:
> >
> >> This misses the point, as others have highlighted already.
> >>
> >> The WMF can and /should/ globally and permanently ban paedophiles,
> >> terrorists, system hackers and people making multiple cross-wiki
> >>> death
> >> threats or threats of suicide. There are perfectly good and
> >> understandable reasons as to why the evidence behind these attacks
> >>> and
> >> threats would be kept unpublished, it's seriously personal or
> >>> criminal
> >> stuff.
> >>
> >> The WMF making topic bans, interaction bans and limited project
> >> specific bans against Wikipedians is a brand new invention, which
> >>> goes
> >> against the pre-existing understanding that the WMF do not replace
> >> existing and perfectly adequate community agreed procedures for
> >> banning bad behaviour on our projects. Once full time WMF employees
> >> start doing in parallel what volunteer administrators already do,
> >>> then
> >> we should question why we do not *pay* volunteers administrators the
> >> same hourly rate and we are likely to see a mass exodus of
> >> administrators. After all, would you, say, deliver the post for free
> >> in your area for fun, but thereby take away decent full time
> >> employment with a guaranteed pension for your local postie?
> >>
> >> If the reason for the WMF stepping in to ban Fram for a year is
> >> because the WMF do not trust Wikipedia administrators or Wikipedia's
> >> Arbcom to take sensible action in harassment cases, then they should
> >> be raising that honestly and openly with Arbcom. If the English
> 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Introducing Wikimedia Space: A space for movement news and conversations

2019-06-26 Thread Isaac Olatunde
The outreach Wiki and Wikimedia Space have some similarities but I don't
they serve the same purposes.

Regards,

Isaac

On Tue, Jun 25, 2019, 7:56 PM Pine W  Hi Maria,
>
> Thanks for this update.
>
> I hope that you can answer a question. I may be mistaken, but my impression
> is that the purposes that are outlined for Wikimedia Space are within the
> intended scopes of the Meta and Outreach wikis, as well as Wikimedia-l. I
> think that the community would be willing to consider design improvements
> and additional features for Meta and Outreach, such as calendar and map
> tools that are easy to use. Design improvements and additional features
> might also be welcome by third parties who use MediaWiki software and could
> eventually have the option to implement the changes on their own sites. Can
> you explain the decision to launch a new site instead of proposing design
> improvements and additional features for Meta and Outreach?
>
> Thank you,
>
> Pine
> ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine )
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Some goodbye to all

2019-06-21 Thread Isaac Olatunde
Hi Natacha

I am not sure this thread is about whether T action was in order or not.

Aside the recent WP:FRAM, I am not aware of a single instance where T
action's was criticized largely by the community or those you described as
official representative of movement/chapters. Most opinion expressed at
WP:FRAM are mere speculations and relies entirely on what  Fram thought
might be the reason for their ban.

That being said, some members of the community who are familiar with
Romaine's past works considered them valuable to our movement and I think
that should be respected. Interpreting their comments as endorsement of the
behaviour that led to T's action and criticising official representative
of chapters who pen down a farewell note is inappropriate.

Romaine, there are other ways to volunteer and as you may already be aware,
you don't have to attend Wikimedia events to add value to our movement.
There are plenty of ways to make a difference. Personally, I appreciate
your on-wiki works and I hope you will continue the good works. But if you
want to quit contributing altogether, I wish you all the best in your
future endeavor.

Good luck.

Isaac


On Fri, Jun 21, 2019, 6:57 AM Natacha Rault via Wikimedia-l <
wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org wrote:

> First of all I don’t know the context of this conversation. I know that I
> personnally find that the actions of  Trust& Safety  very valuable and
> wise. I totally support and trust their judgement.
>
> I am tired of seing their work criticized, and do not appreciate official
> chapter representants and employees publicly supporting alleged offenders,
> showing no aknowledgement of the fact that this is very toxic for alleged
> victims, and does not help to change attitude towards issues of
> harrassment.
>
> How can we feel safe in the movement if the decisions of T are
> questionned by official members of our movement?
>
> Nattes à chat
>
>
>
>
>
> Le 21 juin 2019 à 01:04, Chris Keating  a
> écrit :
>
> >>
> >> It is extremely disappointing, and *extremely typical* of the Wikimedia
> >> movement, to see an entire thread like this dedicated to supporting
> someone
> >> who Trust & Safety has found to have acted in such a way that they had
> to
> >> intervene. It is even more disappointing to see a person who was
> affected
> >> by his actions told "this is not your story" and "it may help you when
> you
> >> grow some sensitivity and respect this experience, the
> >> feelings of others."
> >>
> >> If you're wondering why women leave the Wikimedia movement, and why
> >> Wikimedia has such a bad harassment problem in general, just reflect on
> >> this thread.
> >
> >
> > Thank you, Molly, for expressing what I was just trying to summon the
> > energy to write.
> >
> > Chris
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] New board for Wikimedia Belgium + evaluation behaviour WMF

2019-06-17 Thread Isaac Olatunde
The "sender is Romaine" is not the same as  "Romaine is WMBE". This sort of
confusion should have been prevented by allowing another person to send
this email on behalf of WMBE.

Regards,

Isaac



On Mon, Jun 17, 2019, 3:48 PM Dariusz Jemielniak 
>
> On Mon, Jun 17, 2019 at 4:26 PM Michel Vuijlsteke  > wrote:
> In other words, the best way to ban anyone from any event is to start a
> rumour about them?
>
> My understanding is that noone was banned from an event.
>
> On Mon, Jun 17, 2019 at 4:28 PM Paulo Santos Perneta <
> paulospern...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I've read and reread the WMBE message, and have not found anything near
> "pushing people who felt harassed or mistreated to step forward".
>
> I'm referring to message from Caroline.
>
>
> I also do not understand why you're addressing WMBE as "Romaine" (begging
> the question?).
>
> Can you please clarify?
>
> The message was sent from romaine.w...@gmail.com romaine.w...@gmail.com> account and I assumed that addressing the sender
> as "Romaine" is appropriate.
>
> best,
>
> dj
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] New board for Wikimedia Belgium + evaluation behaviour WMF

2019-06-17 Thread Isaac Olatunde
Considering that it was sent by that person, one may reasonably conclude
that it was written by them. That being said, I do not want to believe that
it was not reviewed and approved by the governing board (assuming it was
written by that person). BUT if it was written by another person, reviewed
and approved by the board why is the involved person sending this email on
behalf of WMBE? Just curious.

Regards,

Isaac

On Mon, Jun 17, 2019 at 2:27 PM Thomas Townsend 
wrote:

> Am I right in thinking that this email, containing a long account of
> the alleged poor treatment of the Treasurer of WMBE, referred to
> throughout in the third person, was in fact written by that person?
>
> The Turnip
>
> On Mon, 17 Jun 2019 at 10:00, Romaine Wiki  wrote:
> >
> > Hello all,
> >
> > On Saturday 15 June 2019 Wikimedia Belgium had its annual General
> Assembly
> > in Brussels.
> >
> > *New board*
> > Two board members have indicated to step down:
> > * Afernand74
> > * SPQRobin
> >
> > We thank them for their work and valuable input in the past years!
> > They remain available for advice to the board.
> >
> > Two board members were up for re-election after their previous terms
> ended.
> > Both board members have been re-elected without any votes against them,
> and
> > they will keep serving Wikimedia Belgium in their roles.
> > * Geertivp - president
> > * Romaine - treasurer
> >
> > One new board member has been elected without any votes against.
> > * Taketa - long term Wikipedia editor and organiser of various activities
> >
> > Welcome Taketa!
> >
> > The rest of the board remains the same and the board continues the work
> and
> > development of our chapter.
> >
> >
> > *Evaluation behaviour WMF*
> > As board we have the obligation to inform the General Assembly and other
> > stakeholders about the developments with our chapter, both the good
> > developments as well as the bad developments.
> >
> > A year ago, with our previous General Assembly, we were hopeful to
> resolve
> > the issues we then had with on other organisation in the movement, the
> > Wikimedia Foundation. Sadly we had to inform the General Assembly that
> > instead of improvements, the behaviour of multiple individuals from the
> > Wikimedia Foundation is below any standard. This concerns one member of
> the
> > grants team and multiple members of the Trust and Safety team, as well as
> > their supervisors.
> >
> > On request of the Trust & Safety team no names are mentioned. Below is a
> > summary of what happened.
> >
> >
> > *Case 1*
> > In April 2017 the treasurer of Wikimedia Belgium (Romaine) spoke with our
> > new grants staff member from the Wikimedia Foundation as WMBE was
> scheduled
> > to change from successful project grants in 2017 and earlier years to
> > Simple Annual Plan grants. During this meeting the plan for WMBE in 2018
> > was proposed and was fine for the grants staff member. In the Summer of
> > 2017 this had been worked out, and with an online call our annual plan
> was
> > considered fine. With the final submission in October 2017, our annual
> > grants proposal was reviewed by the grants staff member from WMF, had
> some
> > minor remarks we fixed, and was considered to be excellent.
> >
> > In December 2017 we were informed that our grant request (suddenly) was,
> to
> > summarise, complete wrong. It contained factual errors (like facts do not
> > matter), inconsistencies, the comment that Wikimedia France and Wikimedia
> > Netherlands could take everything over in Belgium, suggesting that
> Belgium
> > has no culture (this is a serious insult to us), and much more.
> > (For your reference: Wikimedia Belgium had over 90 events and activities
> in
> > 2017, including a photo contest, education program, GLAM program with
> > content donations, workshops and edit-a-thons, and more.)
> >
> > It raised us a lot of questions, which we asked, but our grants member of
> > WMF refused to seriously answer them.
> >
> > Even with our lack of information and received insults, we tried to be
> > constructive and before Christmas we proposed to the grants staff member
> > that we would re-write during the Christmas holidays our annual plan (as
> > the staff member had said many times we could improve it). With the
> e-mail
> > following from the grants member of WMF this proposal was not rejected.
> So
> > during the two weeks of the Christmas holidays we spent many days,
> together
> > with the help from another experienced chapter representative, re-writing
> > our annual plan. After the Christmas holidays, we were ready, and the
> > response from the grants member from WMF was then that the re-written
> > version could not be taken into account...
> >
> > After some further e-mails with this staff member we concluded as WMBE
> mid
> > January 2018 that a collaboration with this individual from WMF is
> > impossible and we banned this individual from ever contacting us again
> and
> > we never communicated ever with this 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fram en.wp office yearlock block

2019-06-15 Thread Isaac Olatunde
if Fram was not an admin, all these discussions would not have been done)
[citation needed]

I don't think this is entirely incorrect. Chances are that people would not
notice or care if Fram was not an admin.

Isaac

On Fri, Jun 14, 2019, 2:05 PM Martijn Hoekstra   if Fram was not an admin, all these discussions would not have been done)
> [citation needed]
>
>
>
>
> why we (other users) have allowed such an attitude without intervening to
> > stop it.
> >
> >
> > Camelia
> >
> >
> > --
> > *Camelia Boban*
> >
> > *| Java EE Developer |*
> >
> > *Affiliations Committee - **Wikimedia *Foundation
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> >
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> >
> > M. +39 3383385545
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> > *
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> >  *
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Il giorno ven 14 giu 2019 alle ore 14:32 Mister Thrapostibongles <
> > thrapostibong...@gmail.com> ha scritto:
> >
> > > Fæ
> > >
> > > [...] the pre-existing understanding that the WMF do not replace
> > > > existing and perfectly adequate community agreed procedures for
> > > > banning bad behaviour on our projects.
> > >
> > >
> > > Unfortunately, there is ample evidence that the existing English
> > Wikipedia
> > > community processes are not "perfectly adequate" for that purpose.
> > >
> > >
> > > > If the English
> > > > Wikipedia's policies are not fit for purpose, or implementation of
> > > > policy is incompetent, we need a much bigger discussion
> > >
> > >
> > > Indeed.  Unfortunately the tone of the discussion here and at
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Community_response_to_the_Wikimedia_Foundation%27s_ban_of_Fram
> > > suggests
> > > that the requisite discussion is now less, not more, likely to happen
> or
> > be
> > > productive.
> > >
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fram en.wp office yearlock block

2019-06-15 Thread Isaac Olatunde
Sadly, people with advanced permissions (admin, checkuser etc) on Wikimedia
projects are almost immune to sanctions. You could imagine a behavior that
would normally lead to a site ban for people with no permission will only
result in a desysop for an administrator. Worst of it is Wikimedia Commons
where there has to be two different RfC/votes to get an admin desysoped.

Isaac

On Fri, Jun 14, 2019, 1:46 PM camelia boban  I quote David and Isaac.
> Harassment is a serious thing and hounding another user is out of any wiki
> behavior.
> Before asking why WMF has banned an admin (and if Fram was not an admin,
> all these discussions would not have been done), we need to ask ourselves
> why we (other users) have allowed such an attitude without intervening to
> stop it.
>
>
> Camelia
>
>
> --
> *Camelia Boban*
>
> *| Java EE Developer |*
>
> *Affiliations Committee - **Wikimedia *Foundation
> Coordinator - Diversity Working Group for Wikimedia Strategy 2030
> Chair & co-founder - WikiDonne User Group *| WikiDonne Project ideator*
>
> *Diversity Space @ Wikimania 2019 Co-Lead*
> WMIT - WMSE - WMCH - WMAR Member
>
> M. +39 3383385545
> camelia.bo...@gmail.com
> *Aissa Technologies* * | *Twitter
>  *|* *LinkedIn
> *
> *Wikipedia  **|
> **WikiDonne
> UG * | *WikiDonne Project
>  *
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Il giorno ven 14 giu 2019 alle ore 14:32 Mister Thrapostibongles <
> thrapostibong...@gmail.com> ha scritto:
>
> > Fæ
> >
> > [...] the pre-existing understanding that the WMF do not replace
> > > existing and perfectly adequate community agreed procedures for
> > > banning bad behaviour on our projects.
> >
> >
> > Unfortunately, there is ample evidence that the existing English
> Wikipedia
> > community processes are not "perfectly adequate" for that purpose.
> >
> >
> > > If the English
> > > Wikipedia's policies are not fit for purpose, or implementation of
> > > policy is incompetent, we need a much bigger discussion
> >
> >
> > Indeed.  Unfortunately the tone of the discussion here and at
> >
> >
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Community_response_to_the_Wikimedia_Foundation%27s_ban_of_Fram
> > suggests
> > that the requisite discussion is now less, not more, likely to happen or
> be
> > productive.
> >
> > Thrapostibongles
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fram en.wp office yearlock block

2019-06-15 Thread Isaac Olatunde
I do think that people should be sanctioned for off-wiki harassment if the
harassment is a result of the on-wiki activities of the victim. It doesn't
matter if it was done on-wiki or off-wiki, if we can identify the harasser
and we are confident that their actions are motivated by onwiki activities
of the victim.

Regards

Isaac

On Fri, Jun 14, 2019, 2:03 PM Isaac Olatunde  Sadly, people with advanced permissions (admin, checkuser etc) on
> Wikimedia projects are almost immune to sanctions. You could imagine a
> behavior that would normally lead to a site ban for people with no
> permission will only result in a desysop for an administrator. Worst of it
> is Wikimedia Commons where there has to be two different RfC/votes to get
> an admin desysoped.
>
> Isaac
>
> On Fri, Jun 14, 2019, 1:46 PM camelia boban  wrote:
>
>> I quote David and Isaac.
>> Harassment is a serious thing and hounding another user is out of any wiki
>> behavior.
>> Before asking why WMF has banned an admin (and if Fram was not an admin,
>> all these discussions would not have been done), we need to ask ourselves
>> why we (other users) have allowed such an attitude without intervening to
>> stop it.
>>
>>
>> Camelia
>>
>>
>> --
>> *Camelia Boban*
>>
>> *| Java EE Developer |*
>>
>> *Affiliations Committee - **Wikimedia *Foundation
>> Coordinator - Diversity Working Group for Wikimedia Strategy 2030
>> Chair & co-founder - WikiDonne User Group *| WikiDonne Project ideator*
>>
>> *Diversity Space @ Wikimania 2019 Co-Lead*
>> WMIT - WMSE - WMCH - WMAR Member
>>
>> M. +39 3383385545
>> camelia.bo...@gmail.com
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>> <https://twitter.com/cameliaboban> *|* *LinkedIn
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Il giorno ven 14 giu 2019 alle ore 14:32 Mister Thrapostibongles <
>> thrapostibong...@gmail.com> ha scritto:
>>
>> > Fæ
>> >
>> > [...] the pre-existing understanding that the WMF do not replace
>> > > existing and perfectly adequate community agreed procedures for
>> > > banning bad behaviour on our projects.
>> >
>> >
>> > Unfortunately, there is ample evidence that the existing English
>> Wikipedia
>> > community processes are not "perfectly adequate" for that purpose.
>> >
>> >
>> > > If the English
>> > > Wikipedia's policies are not fit for purpose, or implementation of
>> > > policy is incompetent, we need a much bigger discussion
>> >
>> >
>> > Indeed.  Unfortunately the tone of the discussion here and at
>> >
>> >
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Community_response_to_the_Wikimedia_Foundation%27s_ban_of_Fram
>> > suggests
>> > that the requisite discussion is now less, not more, likely to happen
>> or be
>> > productive.
>> >
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fram en.wp office yearlock block

2019-06-14 Thread Isaac Olatunde
I have seen a known user attacking me on one of Wikipedia's criticism site
during my ArbCom case on the English Wikipedia but when it was report, they
said there is nothing they can do about off-wiki attacks/harassment. That
event alone gives me an impression that the English Wikipedia community
cannot protect anyone from off-wiki harassment. Why would people feel
comfortable to report a case of harassment to a community or group that can
not protect them?

Isaac

On Fri, Jun 14, 2019, 8:33 AM Pine W  I think that I understand the GamerGate reference. A decentralized swarm of
> harassment can be a major problem, and in this case I am concerned (I
> haven't attempted to review the evidence) that at least one person is being
> hounded off-wiki regarding their alleged involvement in this matter in a
> way that would receive a firm response by ENWP administrators if the same
> hounding was happening on ENWP.
>
> Fear of being hounded can discourage people from reporting problems.
>
> On English Wikipedia we have some administrators who are willing to make
> politically difficult blocks, and we have an arbitration committee that has
> been willing to review alleged misconduct by high profile people including
> administrators, but I'm not sure that all wikis have a sufficient number of
> competent and good faith administrators to address allegations of
> misconduct, especially misconduct by people who have relatively high levels
> of local political support.
>
> Even more challenging to moderate are off-wiki activities in places which
> do not honor ENWP norms. I do not know of a robust solution to this
> problem, and my guess is that there is no robust solution unless we want
> governments to have more ability to proactively filter and to suppress
> Internet content that does not meet with their approval.
>
> I think that ENWP is more like a busy, diverse, and loud public square than
> a quiet office with tight control of what everyone does and a central
> authority that quickly gets rid of people who make statements that are not
> acceptable within narrow parameters. I worry that the concept of "safe
> spaces" may come to mean something like: "People are only allowed to
> participate on Wikimedia sites if they act according to WMF's opinions
> regarding politically correct behavior and create content that does not
> offend WMF". Political correctness and safety are not characteristics that
> I would associate with Wikimedia sites, for better and for worse, and I
> think that attempting to create more political correctness and safety can
> come at too much expense of honesty, due process, freedom of expression,
> and editorial independence. As mentioned by others, WMF’s recent power grab
> calls into question the editorial independence of the Wikimedia
> communities.
>
> This does not mean that I would give a free pass to Fram or that I am OK
> with someone hounding a person who makes a complaint, whether on wiki or
> off wiki.
>
> I think that a good conversation for the ENWP community to have would be
> regarding how we can increase confidence by victims of harassment in the
> integrity of ENWP's investigation and enforcement systems. Courage is
> sometimes necessary to speak up in public, as many of us are doing in this
> thread and on wiki with various degrees of personal risk. I am concerned
> about community members possibly deciding not to report problems because
> they lack confidence that their reports will be taken seriously by ENWP's
> community authorities and lack confidence that they will be protected from
> further harm to the extent that the ENWP community can protect them.
> (Protecting people from off wiki hounding is, unfortunately, probably
> impossible if aggressors are determined to hound someone.)
>
> I have concerns regarding a system for anonymous complaints because I
> generally support transparent enforcement and due process. However, if
> victims are not reporting problems due to fear and if there is a way that
> we can provide due process protections for the accused while increasing the
> confidence of victims in ENWP's investigations and enforcement systems then
> I think that we should consider making modifications. This does not require
> any involvement from WMF, although we might want to ask WMF for technical
> support if needed for a system that we design or agree to implement.
> Pine
> ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine )
>
> P.S. I need to stop posting in this thread so that I do not exceed my limit
> of Wikimedia-l posts for the month, but my silence does not indicate lack
> of interest.
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 13, 2019, 16:24 Paulo Santos Perneta 
> wrote:
>
> > No idea what could be the relation with GamerGate and the current issue
> > onwiki at wiki en. Would you care to elaborate?
> >
> > Paulo
> >
> > A quinta, 13 de jun de 2019, 19:53, David Gerard 
> > escreveu:
> >
> > > I think the problem is that the pathological people, having been
> > > called out on 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fram en.wp office yearlock block

2019-06-14 Thread Isaac Olatunde
Nobody deserves to be harassed on any Wikimedia project.

Unfortunately once you are mobbed on the English Wikipedia, some people
thinks it's fine to harass you. They don't care how you feel, your personal
life does not matter to them.

Imagine someone want the name of the person behind the WMF Office account
revealed. What purpose will this serve if not to harass the staff member?


Isaac



On Thu, Jun 13, 2019, 5:14 PM Robert Fernandez  If someone is able to harass someone for years and nothing is done then
> clearly community procedures are not “perfectly adequate”
>
> On Thu, Jun 13, 2019 at 11:36 AM Fæ  wrote:
>
> > This misses the point, as others have highlighted already.
> >
> > The WMF can and /should/ globally and permanently ban paedophiles,
> > terrorists, system hackers and people making multiple cross-wiki death
> > threats or threats of suicide. There are perfectly good and
> > understandable reasons as to why the evidence behind these attacks and
> > threats would be kept unpublished, it's seriously personal or criminal
> > stuff.
> >
> > The WMF making topic bans, interaction bans and limited project
> > specific bans against Wikipedians is a brand new invention, which goes
> > against the pre-existing understanding that the WMF do not replace
> > existing and perfectly adequate community agreed procedures for
> > banning bad behaviour on our projects. Once full time WMF employees
> > start doing in parallel what volunteer administrators already do, then
> > we should question why we do not *pay* volunteers administrators the
> > same hourly rate and we are likely to see a mass exodus of
> > administrators. After all, would you, say, deliver the post for free
> > in your area for fun, but thereby take away decent full time
> > employment with a guaranteed pension for your local postie?
> >
> > If the reason for the WMF stepping in to ban Fram for a year is
> > because the WMF do not trust Wikipedia administrators or Wikipedia's
> > Arbcom to take sensible action in harassment cases, then they should
> > be raising that honestly and openly with Arbcom. If the English
> > Wikipedia's policies are not fit for purpose, or implementation of
> > policy is incompetent, we need a much bigger discussion than whether
> > Fram did something so terrible it cannot be named, but oddly was not
> > worth a global ban but only the equivalent of a 12 month block on
> > Wikipedia while they are free to do whatever they feel like on other
> > Wikimedia projects.
> >
> > Fae
> > --
> > fae...@gmail.com https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Fae
> >
> > On Thu, 13 Jun 2019 at 15:35, John Erling Blad  wrote:
> > >
> > > When you bad mouth other users there should be, and will be,
> > consequences.
> > > An admin got desysoped and banned after repeated warnings? So what? The
> > > only ting to be learned is that some people believe they can do
> whatever
> > > they want and it has no consequences, and other people goes ballistic
> > when
> > > consequences happen.
> > >
> > > I would have given desysoped fram and 14 days to cool off, and if that
> > did
> > > not work out repeated with one month. Banning someone for one year is
> > like
> > > telling them to leave and don't come back. Someone at WMF is clearly
> > overly
> > > sensitive, but not reacting would also be wrong.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fram en.wp office yearlock block

2019-06-12 Thread Isaac Olatunde
I have read several threads on this incident including Fram and T
statement on the English Wikipedia but I find it difficult to draw any
reasonable conclusion as WMF has not officially says that Fram was banned
for the fuck ArbCom comment. I really do not think we'll be fair to WMF if
we conclude based on Fram's statement alone.

I am also aware that the office action has been override by one of English
Wikipedia's administrator. Even though Jimbo and others asked the user not
to do so.

This whole event is scandalous and I am sad this is happening at the time.

Isaac

On Wed, Jun 12, 2019, 7:28 AM Philippe Beaudette  Martian,
>
> While it’s not something I could conjure up today, my time at WMF exposed
> me to enough things that I could not have imagined prior to seeing them for
> myself that I am unwilling to discount that such a situation could exist.
>
> Philippe
>
> On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 11:25 PM Martijn Hoekstra <
> martijnhoeks...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Phillipe,
> >
> > Can you imagine a hypothetical situation where it would have been
> > appropriate for this WMF office action to exist though - that is to say,
> > not serious enough to ban a user from any other wiki than en. and serious
> > enough to take direct action outside of the community?
> >
> > I sure can't, yet here it happened. That means I also can't really
> > disqualify any other points that I can't imagine as surely false. Can
> you,
> > from your personal experience reconcile what happened here good enough,
> so
> > that when you say you can't imagine, that dismisses the issue? Or do you
> > maybe also have to suspend your judgement on what probably did or didn't
> > happen as you are also in the realm of "can't imagine" already?
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 12, 2019, 04:35 Philippe Beaudette 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Nathan writes:
> > >
> > > *“Why are WMF staffers so*
> > >
> > > *deeply, fundamentally disconnected from the communities where they
> feel
> > > the*
> > > *right to ban people for saying "fuck arbcom"?”*
> > >
> > >
> > > I’ve seen no evidence that this is the case here and would be utterly
> > > shocked if a t staff member had indeed banned for saying that.
> > >
> > > If the situation is anything like what it was when I was at WMF, a ban
> > such
> > > as this requires multiple levels of review by a couple of different
> teams
> > > (in my time, we would not have considered a ban such as this without
> sign
> > > off from the community and legal teams, for instance). I don’t know if
> > the
> > > process is the same now but I would be surprised to hear that any
> single
> > > staff member would feel comfortable banning on his or her authority
> > alone.
> > > Multiple levels of review exist in order to ensure that ban reasons are
> > > valid and appropriate.
> > >
> > > Philippe
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 6:55 PM Nathan  wrote:
> > >
> > > > Wow, what a cluster. How does the WMF get themselves into these
> > things? I
> > > > have ten edits to en.wp since 2018 and even I could have 100%
> predicted
> > > the
> > > > entire spectrum, and scale, of the reaction here. Why are WMF
> staffers
> > so
> > > > deeply, fundamentally disconnected from the communities where they
> feel
> > > the
> > > > right to ban people for saying "fuck arbcom"?
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 3:49 PM Todd Allen 
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Amir, yes, ArbCom members must sign the WMF confidentiality
> agreement
> > > for
> > > > > nonpublic information (
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Confidentiality_agreement_for_nonpublic_information
> > > > > )
> > > > > , as must all functionaries (checkuser, oversight, etc.). I was on
> > the
> > > > > English Wikipedia ArbCom for two years, and it was routine for us
> to
> > > deal
> > > > > with sensitive, private information.
> > > > >
> > > > > Todd
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 9:46 AM Amir Sarabadani <
> ladsgr...@gmail.com
> > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > People who oppose the ban: Are you aware of all aspects and
> things
> > > Fram
> > > > > has
> > > > > > done? Do you have the full picture? It's really saddening to see
> > how
> > > > fast
> > > > > > people jump to conclusion in page mentioned in the email. I
> > > personally,
> > > > > > don't know what happened so I neither can support or oppose the
> > ban.
> > > As
> > > > > > simple as that.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So what should be done IMO. If enwiki wants to know more, a
> > community
> > > > > body
> > > > > > can ask for more information, if body satisfy two things:
> > > > > >  - They had signed NDA not to disclose the case
> > > > > >  - They are trusted by the community
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I think the only body can sorta work with this is stewards but
> not
> > > sure
> > > > > > (Does ArbCom NDA'ed?)
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 3:58 PM Paulo Santos Perneta <
> > > > > > paulospern...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fram en.wp office yearlock block

2019-06-12 Thread Isaac Olatunde
It seems the English Wikipedia community is concern with whether WMF has
jurisdiction to ban a user in a single project with active arbitration
committee and if they may do so without any obligation to notify the
project Arbitration committee or the community.

Well, I don't know the specifics of this particular ban but I believe WMF
took the best decision in banning Fram considering the Foundation has acted
approximately in dealing with similar issues in the past.

Regards,

Isaac



On Tue, Jun 11, 2019, 2:58 PM Paulo Santos Perneta  Lack of transparency from the WMF, whatelse is new.
> I'm currently under a funding ban secretly decided (by who?) based on a
> false accusation, without providing any evidence. Until now I'm waiting for
> an explanation from the WMF. So, this sort of attitude doesn't surprise me
> at all.
> It is very unfortunate that the WMF apparently thrives in this kind of
> medieval obscurity, the opposite of the values of the Wikimedia Movement.
> Matter for Roles & Reponsibilities.
>
> Best,
> Paulo
>
>
> Benjamin Ikuta  escreveu no dia terça, 11/06/2019
> à(s) 05:45:
>
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks for this.
> >
> > I'm glad to see I'm not the only one dismayed by the unilateralism and
> > lack of transparency.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Jun 10, 2019, at 8:25 PM, Techman224 
> wrote:
> >
> > > Forwarding to WIkimedia-l since WikiEN-l is relatively dead.
> > >
> > > Since this message, an Arbcom member (SilkTork) stated that they
> weren't
> > consulted, nor did this action was the result of Arbcom forwarding a
> > concern to the office. [1]
> > >
> > > The only non-response excuse from the WMF [2] was that "local
> > communities consistently struggle to uphold not just their own autonomous
> > rules but the Terms of Use, too.” even though there were no complaints
> > on-wiki nor to Arbcom privately.
> > >
> > > The on-wiki discussion is taking place at the Bureaucrats and the
> Arbcom
> > noticeboards.
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Bureaucrats%27_noticeboard#User:Fram_banned_for_1_year_by_WMF_office
> > <
> >
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Bureaucrats'_noticeboard#User:Fram_banned_for_1_year_by_WMF_office
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Arbitration_Committee/Noticeboard#Request_for_ArbCom_to_comment_publicly_on_Fram's_ban
> > >
> > > [1]
> >
> https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Arbitration_Committee/Noticeboard=prev=901300528
> > <
> >
> https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Arbitration_Committee/Noticeboard=prev=901300528
> > >
> > > [2]
> >
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Bureaucrats%27_noticeboard#Statement_from_the_WMF_Trust_&_Safety_Team
> > >
> > > Techman224
> > >
> > >> Begin forwarded message:
> > >>
> > >> From: George Herbert 
> > >> Subject: [WikiEN-l] Fram en.wp office yearlock block
> > >> Date: June 10, 2019 at 8:54:34 PM CDT
> > >> To: English Wikipedia 
> > >> Reply-To: English Wikipedia 
> > >>
> > >> In case you're not following on-wiki - Office S blocked English
> > Wikipedia
> > >> user / administrator Fram for a year and desysopped, for unspecified
> > >> reasons in the Office purview.  There was a brief statement here from
> > >> Office regarding it which gave no details other than that normal
> policy
> > and
> > >> procedures for Office actions were followed, which under normal
> > >> circumstances preclude public comments.
> > >>
> > >>
> >
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Bureaucrats%27_noticeboard#User:Fram_banned_for_1_year_by_WMF_office
> > >>
> > >> Several people on Arbcom and board have commented they're making
> private
> > >> inquiries under normal reporting and communication channels, due to
> the
> > >> oddity and essentially uniqueness of the action.
> > >>
> > >> There was an initial surge of dismay which has mellowed IMHO into "Ok,
> > >> responsible people following up".
> > >>
> > >> I understand the sensitivity of some of the topics under Office
> actions,
> > >> having done OTRS and other various had-to-stay-private stuff myself at
> > >> times in the past.  A high profile investigation target is most
> unusual
> > but
> > >> not unheard of.
> > >>
> > >> I did send email to Fram earlier today asking if they had any public
> > >> comment, no reply as yet.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> -george william herbert
> > >> george.herb...@gmail.com
> > >> ___
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [African Wikimedians] Happy Africa Day: keyboards for all the languages of Africa

2019-05-28 Thread Isaac Olatunde
Sure, I'd be happy to! This makes a lot of sense. Who is in charge of the
blog at WMF?

Regards,

Isaac

On Sat, May 25, 2019, 11:27 AM Gerard Meijssen  Hey Isaac,
> Would you be willing to either write an article about using the Yoruba
> keyboard. Particularly what it takes to learn to use it and if/how you use
> other software? It would deserve a place on the Wikimedia blog because the
> keyboard effort deserves much more attention :)
> Thanks,
>   GerardM
>
> On Sat, 25 May 2019 at 11:28, Isaac Olatunde 
> wrote:
>
>> Hello Amir,
>>
>> Thank you for this great work. I have been enjoying the Yoruba keyboard
>> you
>> designed for me over over three years ago. I am proud to say that in have
>> translated over 250 articles from English Wikipedia to Yoruba Wikipedia
>> using the keyboards and I have trained others on now to use it and they
>> have also translated over 200 articles to Yoruba Wikipedia. Without, this
>> keyboard it's usually uninteresting for native speakers to contribute to
>> Yoruba Wikipedia but that problem has now been mitigated by your work.
>>
>> Again, thank you so much on behalf of the Yoruba Wikipedia community.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Isaac
>>
>> (Apology for mistakenly posting with the indaba email connected to my
>> device)
>>
>> On Sat, May 25, 2019, 8:29 AM WikiIndaba 2019 Nigeria <
>> wikiindaba2019scholars...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> > Hello Amir,
>> >
>> > Thank you for this great work. I have been enjoying the Yoruba keyboard
>> > you designed for me over over three years ago. I am proud to say that in
>> > have translated over 250 articles from English Wikipedia to Yoruba
>> > Wikipedia using the keyboards and I have trained others on now to use it
>> > and they have also translated over 200 articles to Yoruba Wikipedia.
>> > Without, this keyboard it's usually uninteresting for native speakers to
>> > contribute to Yoruba Wikipedia but that problem has now been mitigated
>> by
>> > your work.
>> >
>> > Again, thank you so much on behalf of the Yoruba Wikipedia community.
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> >
>> > Isaac
>> >
>> > On Sat, May 25, 2019, 8:20 AM Amir E. Aharoni <
>> > amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hello, and happy Africa day!
>> >>
>> >> [ crossposted to African Wikimedians list, general Wikimedia list, and
>> >> mediawiki-i18n ]
>> >>
>> >> To celebrate this, I am announcing the completion of a little pet
>> project
>> >> that I started a year ago: it is now easy to type in all the languages
>> of
>> >> Africa in which there is a Wikipedia or an active Incubator.
>> >>
>> >> This is available in all Wikimedia projects and in translatewiki.net.
>> >> This release is intended for desktop and laptop computers. For mobile
>> >> phones and tablets, I strongly recommend trying apps such as Gboard,
>> >> SwiftKey, or African Keyboard.
>> >>
>> >> For full details and project description see this blog post:
>> >>
>> >>
>> https://aharoni.wordpress.com/2019/05/25/happy-africa-day-keyboards-for-all-african-wikipedia-languages/
>> >>
>> >> Or jump straight into the (easy!!!) technical documentation here:
>> >>
>> >>
>> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Extension:UniversalLanguageSelector/Input_methods/Africa
>> >>
>> >> These keyboards were tested by myself, and some of them were also
>> tested
>> >> by a few other people who speak these languages, and as far as I know
>> they
>> >> are easy to enable and disable and the work correctly. However, it's
>> >> possible that some things are missing: I could have missed some
>> letters, I
>> >> could have made mistakes in documentation, I could have missed some
>> >> languages. Please contact me if you find any problems.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks!
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי
>> >> http://aharoni.wordpress.com
>> >> ‪“We're living in pieces,
>> >> I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬
>> >> ___
>> >> African-Wikimedians mailing list
>> >> african-wikimedi...@lists.wikimedia.org
>> >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/african-wikimedians
>> >>
>> &

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [African Wikimedians] Happy Africa Day: keyboards for all the languages of Africa

2019-05-25 Thread Isaac Olatunde
Hello Amir,

Thank you for this great work. I have been enjoying the Yoruba keyboard you
designed for me over over three years ago. I am proud to say that in have
translated over 250 articles from English Wikipedia to Yoruba Wikipedia
using the keyboards and I have trained others on now to use it and they
have also translated over 200 articles to Yoruba Wikipedia. Without, this
keyboard it's usually uninteresting for native speakers to contribute to
Yoruba Wikipedia but that problem has now been mitigated by your work.

Again, thank you so much on behalf of the Yoruba Wikipedia community.

Regards,

Isaac

(Apology for mistakenly posting with the indaba email connected to my
device)

On Sat, May 25, 2019, 8:29 AM WikiIndaba 2019 Nigeria <
wikiindaba2019scholars...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hello Amir,
>
> Thank you for this great work. I have been enjoying the Yoruba keyboard
> you designed for me over over three years ago. I am proud to say that in
> have translated over 250 articles from English Wikipedia to Yoruba
> Wikipedia using the keyboards and I have trained others on now to use it
> and they have also translated over 200 articles to Yoruba Wikipedia.
> Without, this keyboard it's usually uninteresting for native speakers to
> contribute to Yoruba Wikipedia but that problem has now been mitigated by
> your work.
>
> Again, thank you so much on behalf of the Yoruba Wikipedia community.
>
> Regards,
>
> Isaac
>
> On Sat, May 25, 2019, 8:20 AM Amir E. Aharoni <
> amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il wrote:
>
>> Hello, and happy Africa day!
>>
>> [ crossposted to African Wikimedians list, general Wikimedia list, and
>> mediawiki-i18n ]
>>
>> To celebrate this, I am announcing the completion of a little pet project
>> that I started a year ago: it is now easy to type in all the languages of
>> Africa in which there is a Wikipedia or an active Incubator.
>>
>> This is available in all Wikimedia projects and in translatewiki.net.
>> This release is intended for desktop and laptop computers. For mobile
>> phones and tablets, I strongly recommend trying apps such as Gboard,
>> SwiftKey, or African Keyboard.
>>
>> For full details and project description see this blog post:
>>
>> https://aharoni.wordpress.com/2019/05/25/happy-africa-day-keyboards-for-all-african-wikipedia-languages/
>>
>> Or jump straight into the (easy!!!) technical documentation here:
>>
>> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Extension:UniversalLanguageSelector/Input_methods/Africa
>>
>> These keyboards were tested by myself, and some of them were also tested
>> by a few other people who speak these languages, and as far as I know they
>> are easy to enable and disable and the work correctly. However, it's
>> possible that some things are missing: I could have missed some letters, I
>> could have made mistakes in documentation, I could have missed some
>> languages. Please contact me if you find any problems.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> --
>> Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי
>> http://aharoni.wordpress.com
>> ‪“We're living in pieces,
>> I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬
>> ___
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>> african-wikimedi...@lists.wikimedia.org
>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/african-wikimedians
>>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Dispute between Common and Outreach

2019-05-13 Thread Isaac Olatunde
Not all local sysops have a strong knowledge of image licensing and I think
allowing local sysops not familiar with image licensing and how Commons
community works in general to delete\undelete files would be
counterproductive.

I agree with Yann that training would work. I think resources allocation
and attention should be given to community who wish to train volunteers on
how to contribute to Commons (beyond image uploads)

Regards,

Isaac

On Sun, May 12, 2019, 2:35 PM Vi to  I wonder wheter local sysops could be allowed to delete/undelete images on
> commons in order to reduce workload. Most risky commons' uploads come from
> cw-upload, allow local sysops to handle them could work.
>
> Vito
>
> Il giorno dom 12 mag 2019 alle ore 15:31 James Heilman 
> ha scritto:
>
> > It is hard to get the admin bit there aswell. Is Commons interested in
> > having more admins?
> >
> > James
> >
> > On Sun, May 12, 2019 at 5:41 AM Fæ  wrote:
> >
> > > A couple of years ago a proposed project was for the WMF to pay for
> > > access to the Google image matching API access so we could run a
> > > copyvio bot on the live new uploads list. Such a bot would not be
> > > terribly hard to get working, and would be a great experiment to see
> > > if this aspect of the more boring side of sysop tools could be
> > > reduced.[1]
> > >
> > > Not specifically advocating auto-deletion, but daily housekeeping
> > > image matches to highly likely copyrighted categories would make mass
> > > housekeeping very easy.
> > >
> > > A separate old chestnut was my proposal to introduce systemic image
> > > hashes, which neatly show "close" image matches.[2] With a Commons hat
> > > on, such a project would be of far more immediate pragmatic use than
> > > mobile-related and structured data-related projects that seem to suck
> > > up all the oxygen and volunteer time available.
> > >
> > > Note that the history of these project/funding ideas is so long, that
> > > several of the most experienced long term volunteers that were
> > > originally interested have since retired. Without some positive short
> > > term encouragement, not only do these ideas never reach the useful
> > > experiment stage, but the volunteers involved simply fade away.
> > >
> > > Links
> > > 1.
> > >
> >
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Village_pump/Archive/2016/02#Google_has_opened_an_API_for_image_recognition
> > > 2. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Fae/Imagehash
> > >
> > > Fae
> > >
> > > On Sun, 12 May 2019 at 12:21, Amir Sarabadani 
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > IMO commons need either a Clue Bot NG for new uploads or ores support
> > for
> > > > images that might be copyright violation, or both.
> > > >
> > > > Best
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, May 12, 2019 at 1:10 PM Yaroslav Blanter 
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Just the active community itself is too small, compared with the
> > > amount of
> > > > > material it has to deal with.
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers
> > > > > Yaroslav
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sun, May 12, 2019 at 1:07 PM Benjamin Ikuta <
> > > benjaminik...@gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Is the shortage of admins due to a lack of people willing or
> > capable
> > > to
> > > > > do
> > > > > > the job, or increasing difficulty in obtaining the bit?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On May 12, 2019, at 3:55 AM, Tomasz Ganicz 
> > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Well, Actually, at the moment it looks they are all undeleted.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The good habit - which I was keeping when organizing several
> > > > > GLAM-related
> > > > > > > mass uploads - was to create on Commons project page describing
> > > what it
> > > > > > is
> > > > > > > intended to be uploaded, preferably in English. Then you can
> > > create a
> > > > > > > project template to mark all uploads with them.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > See: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Partnerships
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Despite practical issue of avoiding unnecessary clashes with
> > > Common's
> > > > > > > admins - creating template and project page helps to promote
> you
> > > > > project
> > > > > > > across Wikimedia communities and may inspire others to do
> > something
> > > > > > similar.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Commons is indeed quite hostile environment for uploaders, but
> on
> > > the
> > > > > > other
> > > > > > > hand it is constantly flooded by hundreds  of copyright
> violating
> > > > > files a
> > > > > > > day:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > See the list from just one day:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/2019/05/01
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > so this hostility works both ways - Common's admins have to
> cope
> > > with
> > > > > > > aggressive hostile copyright violators every day, and after
> some
> > > time -
> > > > > > > decide to leave or became being hostile themselves... and the
> > other
> 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Dispute between Common and Outreach

2019-05-13 Thread Isaac Olatunde
I am not in anyway surprise at this nonsensical behavior of Yann.

This user once posted a misleading information about me and when asked to
correct it they issued a block threat.

It's just terrible.

Isaac

On Mon, May 13, 2019, 5:46 PM David Gerard  Yann, you SERIOUSLY need to back up this claim of "dishonesty" on the
> part of a Wikmedian of long experience.  Your assumption of bad faith
> here is stupendous.
>
> You can't simultaneously complain of the workload, then work this hard
> to drive people away.
>
>
> - d.
>
>
> On Mon, 13 May 2019 at 05:10, Yann Forget  wrote:
> >
> > This was reverted. It is a dishonest edit with a misleading summary.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Yann
> > Jai Jagat 2020 Grand March Coordinator
> > https://www.jaijagat2020.org/
> > +91-74 34 93 33 58 (also WhatsApp)
> >
> >
> >
> > Le dim. 12 mai 2019 à 19:59, Andrew Lih  a écrit :
> >
> > > This episode exposes a policy of Commons that may be unknown to many
> folks
> > > - the precautionary principle.
> > >
> > > It is an explicit exception to assuming good faith, so I noted this on
> the
> > > AGF page on Commons.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Commons:Assume_good_faith=prev=349650525
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sun, May 12, 2019 at 10:23 AM Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga <
> > > galder...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > As I am the author of the post, some remarks:
> > > >
> > > >   *   Commons is, indeed, the only [cloud] storage for file in most
> of
> > > the
> > > > Wikipedias. Making an accusation of using Commons as a storage place
> is
> > > > unfair and nonsense.
> > > >   *   Communication could be better, of course, but we don't have to
> > > think
> > > > on experienced editors and wikimedians, but on people we are trying
> to
> > > > convince to upload to the Commons and find this burden. They don't
> know
> > > how
> > > > to communicate and why they must do it.
> > > >   *   The upload system allow you to upload something if you are the
> > > > author. Period.
> > > >   *   Claiming that something is a derivative work without saying
> which
> > > is
> > > > the original work is not a good practice.
> > > >   *   Of course, commons volunteers are few, and they have a great
> > > > job-queue. But outreach volunteers are less, and a project like this
> can
> > > > take a whole year of volunteer work.
> > > >   *   After all the victim-blaming seen on this discussion no one was
> > > able
> > > > to point to a page where the procedure was clear for everyone.
> > > >
> > > > Let's hope we can follow with this project next year and we will have
> > > less
> > > > problems.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers
> > > >
> > > > Galder
> > > > 
> > > > From: Wikimedia-l  on
> behalf of
> > > > Vi to 
> > > > Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2019 3:35 PM
> > > > To: Wikimedia Mailing List
> > > > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Dispute between Common and Outreach
> > > >
> > > > I wonder wheter local sysops could be allowed to delete/undelete
> images
> > > on
> > > > commons in order to reduce workload. Most risky commons' uploads come
> > > from
> > > > cw-upload, allow local sysops to handle them could work.
> > > >
> > > > Vito
> > > >
> > > > Il giorno dom 12 mag 2019 alle ore 15:31 James Heilman <
> jmh...@gmail.com
> > > >
> > > > ha scritto:
> > > >
> > > > > It is hard to get the admin bit there aswell. Is Commons
> interested in
> > > > > having more admins?
> > > > >
> > > > > James
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sun, May 12, 2019 at 5:41 AM Fæ  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > A couple of years ago a proposed project was for the WMF to pay
> for
> > > > > > access to the Google image matching API access so we could run a
> > > > > > copyvio bot on the live new uploads list. Such a bot would not be
> > > > > > terribly hard to get working, and would be a great experiment to
> see
> > > > > > if this aspect of the more boring side of sysop tools could be
> > > > > > reduced.[1]
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Not specifically advocating auto-deletion, but daily housekeeping
> > > > > > image matches to highly likely copyrighted categories would make
> mass
> > > > > > housekeeping very easy.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > A separate old chestnut was my proposal to introduce systemic
> image
> > > > > > hashes, which neatly show "close" image matches.[2] With a
> Commons
> > > hat
> > > > > > on, such a project would be of far more immediate pragmatic use
> than
> > > > > > mobile-related and structured data-related projects that seem to
> suck
> > > > > > up all the oxygen and volunteer time available.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Note that the history of these project/funding ideas is so long,
> that
> > > > > > several of the most experienced long term volunteers that were
> > > > > > originally interested have since retired. Without some positive
> short
> > > > > > term encouragement, not only do these ideas never reach the
> useful
> > > > > > experiment stage, but the volunteers involved simply fade 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Dispute between Common and Outreach

2019-05-13 Thread Isaac Olatunde
The expectations is at
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Administrators#Community role


Regards,

Isaac

On Sun, May 12, 2019, 10:43 PM Todd Allen  I wouldn't even have any idea what I'd need to do to be a sysop on Commons.
> I frequently do find copyvio images and nominate them for deletion on
> Commons while working on the English Wikipedia spam queue (and yes, I'm
> familiar with copyright law, and they have all, to my knowledge, indeed
> been found to be copyvios and deleted), but I wouldn't even have the first
> clue to what being a Commons admin would entail or what the expectations
> are.
>
> On Sun, May 12, 2019 at 2:28 PM Paulo Santos Perneta <
> paulospern...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Anyone doing Commons stuff has to do have Commons skills. Wikipedia
> sysops
> > are not asked to have them, and do not have them by default.
> >
> > If Wikipedia sysops that deal with copyright want to be Commons admins,
> > they can apply anytime for that role. Otherwise, render to Caesar the
> > things that are Caesar's.
> >
> > Paulo
> >
> >
> > Vi to  escreveu no dia domingo, 12/05/2019 à(s)
> > 21:13:
> >
> > > Major projects surely deal with a significant amount of uploads in an
> > > efficient way.
> > >
> > > Vito
> > >
> > > Il giorno dom 12 mag 2019 alle ore 17:31 Paulo Santos Perneta <
> > > paulospern...@gmail.com> ha scritto:
> > >
> > > > I absolutely disagree with this. A Wikipedia sysop do not necessarily
> > > has -
> > > > and from my experience, most of the time hasn't - the necessary
> skills
> > to
> > > > deal with copyright.
> > > >
> > > > Best,
> > > > Paulo
> > > >
> > > > A domingo, 12 de mai de 2019, 14:35, Vi to 
> > > > escreveu:
> > > >
> > > > > I wonder wheter local sysops could be allowed to delete/undelete
> > images
> > > > on
> > > > > commons in order to reduce workload. Most risky commons' uploads
> come
> > > > from
> > > > > cw-upload, allow local sysops to handle them could work.
> > > > >
> > > > > Vito
> > > > >
> > > > > Il giorno dom 12 mag 2019 alle ore 15:31 James Heilman <
> > > jmh...@gmail.com
> > > > >
> > > > > ha scritto:
> > > > >
> > > > > > It is hard to get the admin bit there aswell. Is Commons
> interested
> > > in
> > > > > > having more admins?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > James
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Sun, May 12, 2019 at 5:41 AM Fæ  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > A couple of years ago a proposed project was for the WMF to pay
> > for
> > > > > > > access to the Google image matching API access so we could run
> a
> > > > > > > copyvio bot on the live new uploads list. Such a bot would not
> be
> > > > > > > terribly hard to get working, and would be a great experiment
> to
> > > see
> > > > > > > if this aspect of the more boring side of sysop tools could be
> > > > > > > reduced.[1]
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Not specifically advocating auto-deletion, but daily
> housekeeping
> > > > > > > image matches to highly likely copyrighted categories would
> make
> > > mass
> > > > > > > housekeeping very easy.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > A separate old chestnut was my proposal to introduce systemic
> > image
> > > > > > > hashes, which neatly show "close" image matches.[2] With a
> > Commons
> > > > hat
> > > > > > > on, such a project would be of far more immediate pragmatic use
> > > than
> > > > > > > mobile-related and structured data-related projects that seem
> to
> > > suck
> > > > > > > up all the oxygen and volunteer time available.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Note that the history of these project/funding ideas is so
> long,
> > > that
> > > > > > > several of the most experienced long term volunteers that were
> > > > > > > originally interested have since retired. Without some positive
> > > short
> > > > > > > term encouragement, not only do these ideas never reach the
> > useful
> > > > > > > experiment stage, but the volunteers involved simply fade away.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Links
> > > > > > > 1.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Village_pump/Archive/2016/02#Google_has_opened_an_API_for_image_recognition
> > > > > > > 2. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Fae/Imagehash
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Fae
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Sun, 12 May 2019 at 12:21, Amir Sarabadani <
> > ladsgr...@gmail.com
> > > >
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > IMO commons need either a Clue Bot NG for new uploads or ores
> > > > support
> > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > images that might be copyright violation, or both.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Best
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Sun, May 12, 2019 at 1:10 PM Yaroslav Blanter <
> > > ymb...@gmail.com
> > > > >
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Just the active community itself is too small, compared
> with
> > > the
> > > > > > > amount of
> > > > > > > > > material it has to deal with.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Cheers
> > > > > > > > > Yaroslav
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Dispute between Common and Outreach

2019-05-13 Thread Isaac Olatunde
Hello Paulo,


Thanks for restoring those images. If images are routinely deleted this
way, I'm afraid it would be difficult to retain new editors. Affiliates
invest a lot of time and resources to recruit new volunteers through
various programs/project and if their uploads are blindly deleted this way,
then it's a problem that needs urgent attention.

I honestly can't think of the best approach at the moment but something
needs to be done.

Regards,

Isaac

On Sun, May 12, 2019, 8:48 PM Paulo Santos Perneta  This is true. I verified and restored almost all the files. There was one
> or two problems with students who uploaded an occasional derivative work
> (integrated in their own work), but almost all the files were OK, and
> correctly uploaded. The main problem here, IMO, was marking sourced stuff
> as "no source" without any explanation, marking stiff as derivative work
> without explaining or stating what the original work was, and then deleting
> it uncritically. I understand there is a tremendous backlog in Commons, and
> the community is tiny and most of the sysops (on which I include myself)
> are generally more interested in other activities than the regular
> management of the project, but IMO this sort of behavior should not be seen
> as acceptable. IMO it would be preferable to not delete or mark anything at
> all, and let the backlog grow freely, than to do it this way. On the other
> hand, in general the sysops with this kind of behavior are the most
> productive in the whole management of the project, and I feel I've no right
> to criticize when I have no plans to regularly  help in what they are doing
> with such dedication.
>
> Best,
> Paulo
>
> Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga  escreveu no dia domingo,
> 12/05/2019 à(s) 20:18:
>
> > Well.. there where instructions. All the videos were supervised before
> > uploading, all the songs were perfectly cited at the descriptions and all
> > the own work was marked as own work. This are the instructiones to follow
> > when uploading to Commons.
> > 
> > From: Wikimedia-l  on behalf of
> > Peter Southwood 
> > Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2019 7:59 PM
> > To: 'Wikimedia Mailing List'
> > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Dispute between Common and Outreach
> >
> > It seems to be a situation where there were no clear instructions, so
> > people did what they thought was a good idea, but others thought it was a
> > bad idea. No communications, now the blame is being spread without
> > analysing the problem and proposing a solution. Not an unusual situation
> > really.
> > Cheers,
> > Peter
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On
> > Behalf Of Mister Thrapostibongles
> > Sent: 11 May 2019 08:53
> > To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
> > Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Dispute between Common and Outreach
> >
> > Hello all,
> >
> > There seems to be a dispute between the Outreach and the Commons
> components
> > of The Community, judging by the article "Wikimedia Commons: a highly
> > hostile place for multimedia students contributions" at the Education
> > Newsletter
> >
> >
> >
> https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Education/News/April_2019/Wikimedia_Commons:_a_highly_hostile_place_for_multimedia_students_contributions
> >
> > As far as I can understand it, some students on an Outreach project
> > uploaded some rather well-made video material, and comeone on Commons
> > deleted them because they appeared to well-made to be student projects
> and
> > so concluded they were copyright violations.  But some rather odd remarks
> > were made "Commons has to fight the endless stream of uploaded
> copyrighted
> > content on behalf of a headquarters in San Francisco that doesn't care."
> > and
> >  "you have regarded Commons as little more than free cloud storage for
> > images you intend to use on Wikipedia ".
> >
> > Perhaps the Foundation needs to resolve this dispute?
> >
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] timeline for Project Grants

2019-04-29 Thread Isaac Olatunde
You can email projectgra...@wikimedia.org or Alex Wang (aw...@wikimedia.org)

Regards,

Isaac

On Mon, Apr 29, 2019, 5:30 AM Milan Dojchinovski <
dojcinovski.mi...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi Issac,
>
> Thanks for the info.
> What would be the contact to the grant team? Peron/email address?
>
>
> Thanks a lot,
> Milan
>
> On Mon, 29 Apr 2019 at 00:41, Isaac Olatunde 
> wrote:
>
>> Will it not be better to ask the grant team at WMF directly?
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Isaac
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 28, 2019, 2:36 AM Milan Dojchinovski <
>> dojcinovski.mi...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > does any of you have info on the deadline for the next project grants?
>> >
>> > As far as I remember, it was June, but at the moment there is no info on
>> > this at the official page.
>> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Project
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Milan
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] timeline for Project Grants

2019-04-28 Thread Isaac Olatunde
Will it not be better to ask the grant team at WMF directly?

Regards,

Isaac

On Sun, Apr 28, 2019, 2:36 AM Milan Dojchinovski <
dojcinovski.mi...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> does any of you have info on the deadline for the next project grants?
>
> As far as I remember, it was June, but at the moment there is no info on
> this at the official page.
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Project
>
> Thanks,
> Milan
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Annual Report 2018: Wikimedia Community User Group Turkey

2019-04-16 Thread Isaac Olatunde
Wow! That you and your team continue to do some amazing works despite the
issues in Turkey is something I really appreciate.

Thank you so much for this report.

Regards,

Isaac.

On Tue, Apr 16, 2019, 1:25 PM Eileen Hershenov  #WeMissTurkey -- so much.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Chile Board Election

2019-04-15 Thread Isaac Olatunde
Congratulations to the newly elected board members. Wishing you all the
best in your new role

Regards,

Isaac

On Sun, Apr 14, 2019, 7:38 PM camelia boban  Congratulations to Rocio and all Wikimedia Chile board.
>
> Camelia
>
> On Sun, Apr 14, 2019, 8:24 PM Marco Correa  wrote:
>
> > [Sorry for the cross posting]
> >
> > Dear all,
> >
> > *Wikimedia Chile* (WMCL) held its annual General Assembly on April 13th,
> > which was also the beginning of a new term of our Board (2019-2021). All
> > the members from the 2017-2019 Board were reelected for the next two
> years,
> > and the positions were filled as follows:
> >
> > - Rocío Consales, Chair;
> > - Marco Correa: Vicechair;
> > - Carlos Figueroa, Secretary;
> > - Osmar Valdebenito, Treasurer;
> > - Dennis Tobar, Director:
> > - Claudio Loader, Director.
> >
> > We are glad to have Rocío serving as the new president of WMCL, not just
> > for her amazing work as volunteer and Board Member, but also because she
> is
> > the first woman to hold this position in our chapter's history.
> > Congratulations, Rocío!
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > *Marco Correa Pérez*
> > Vicechair - Wikimedia Chile
> > http://www.wikimediachile.cl
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Ukraine's board and officers

2019-03-17 Thread Isaac Olatunde
Congratulations to NickK and others.

Regards,

Isaac

On Sat, Mar 16, 2019, 8:30 PM Голова Правління   Hello!
>
> Wikimedia Ukraine had its General Assembly on February 16, 2019 and we have
> elected new Board and Audit Committee [1]. We have been working on changes
> in our organisation for quite a while now with the help of Wikimedia
> Foundation grantmaking staff:
>
> 1) for a while we have had our General Assembly (GA) at the end of the
> calendar and financial year, which was an issue for us, as we (according to
> the Bylaws) can have a 100% new Board elected by the membership, and that
> means, that we need to finish all our financial transactions before the GA
> in case a new Board Chair and Secretary are elected (they are the ones who
> have the access to the bank account), so last year we have decided to have
> a GA at the end of a year (December) and the next one in February, to
> switch to a cycle starting February-February, rather than
> December-December. This is now done.
> 2) we have finally started working on a Board handbook [2], documenting our
> processes as we go, trying to get it all in a system. This document is a
> direct outcome from the Affiliate Chairpersons meeting in Prague [3] [4],
> and we are very grateful that Tim Moritz and Frans Grijzenhout continue
> dedicating their time to sharing knowledge in the Movement.
> 3) we had our first Strategy session on February 15 (before the GA) and are
> planning to have a two-day strategy session in June.
> 4) we are planning to have our first ever training on teambuilding and
> onboarding for Board members, Audit Committee members and staff on March
> 24-25, 2019. Onboarding and capacity building are our priorities as of now.
> This complements community-wide trainings we've had this past year during
> our national Wikiconference and the CEE Meeting, which we hosted this year
> in Lviv [5].
>
> That said, the new Board consists of:
> * [[User:Ilya]], Illia Korniiko. I have been Chair since December 2015.
> Re-elected.
> * [[User:JTs]], Yulianna Tsaruk. She is First Deputy Chair and Secretary of
> the Board. Re-elected.
> * [[User:NickK]], Mykola Kozlenko. He is Deputy Chair and Treasurer since
> 2016. Re-elected.
> * [[User:Наталія Ластовець]], Nataliia Lastovets. She is responsible for
> our program "Content Enrichment" [6], which includes editing challenges and
> contests, photography contests and GLAM. She has joined our organisation in
> July 2018. She was also a member of the Audit Committee for two months. It
> is her first term serving on the Board.
> * [[User:IgorTurzh]], Igor Turzhanskyy. He is responsible for our program
> "Increasing Participation", which includes Wikipedia in Education. He is a
> long-term Wikipedian but he has joined our organisation only in November
> 2018. It is his first term serving on the Board.
> * [[User:Friend]], Pavlo Sokhan. He is responsible for our program
> "Community Support and Development", which includes community events,
> trainings for volunteers, scholarships and microgrants. Re-elected.
> * [[User:Олександр Гаврик]], Oleksandr Havryk. He is responsible for our
> program "Awareness for Wikimedia and Free Knowledge", which is concentrated
> on media publicity and promotion activities and free panorama advocacy. He
> has joined our organisation only in October 2018. It is his first term
> serving on the Board.
>
> I want to thank the three Board members who stepped down: Yuri Bulka /
> [[User:Юрій Булка]], Olha Nesterenko / [[User:Нестеренко Оля]] and Andrii
> Hrytsenko / [[User:Андрій Гриценко]]. Being a board member means taking
> upon oneself more boring responsibilities, so their work and dedication is
> much
> appreciated.
>
> Our new Audit Committee:
> * [[User:Venzz]], Viacheslav Mamon
> * [[User:Tohaomg]], Anton Obozhyn
> * [[User:Anntinomy]], Anna Khrobolova. She was our project manager for a
> few years, but she has decided to stay with us in her volunteer role.
>
> Anatolii Honcharov / [[User:Ahonc]] and Serhii Petrov / [[User:Kharkivian]]
> have stepped down from the Audit committee and we are grateful for their
> work while there.
>
> [1] Керівні органи: https://ua.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=313 (in
> Ukrainian)
> [2] Посібник для членів Правління:
> https://ua.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=6085 (in Ukrainian)
> [3] Affiliate Chairpersons meeting November 24 - 25, 2018:
>
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliate_Chairpersons_meeting_November_24_-_25,_2018
> [4] Affiliate Chairpersons meeting (Prague 2018):
> https://ua.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliate_Chairpersons_meeting_(Prague_2018)
> (in Ukrainian)
> [5] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_CEE_Meeting_2018/Schedule
> [6] Wikimedia Ukraine has 4 programs, and we have decided that every Board
> member (except for Chair, Secretary and Treasurer) will be responsible for
> one of them:
>
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Simple/Applications/Wikimedia_Ukraine/2019
>
> Best regards,
> Illia Korniiko
> Chair 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement: Wikimedia's new Chief of Community Engagement

2018-12-15 Thread Isaac Olatunde
Congratulations to Valerie and of course many thanks to Maggie for all the
good work.

Regards,

Isaac

On Dec 11, 2018 8:32 PM, "Philippe Beaudette"  wrote:

> Sounds like an amazing fit for the Wmf. Congrats to you all, and Maggie...
> Take a break now. Good job.
>
> Philippe
>
> On Tue, Dec 11, 2018, 10:36 AM Maggie Dennis 
> > Hello, all.
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 11, 2018 at 1:32 PM Katherine Maher 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi everyone,
> > >
> > > Just over a month ago, we let you know that we had the reached the
> final
> > > stages of our search for a new Chief of Community Engagement.[1]
> Today, I
> > > am thrilled to let you know that we have appointed Valerie D’Costa to
> the
> > > role.
> >
> > 
> >
> > I just wanted to follow up myself on Katherine’s note to voice my
> > enthusiastic and excited congratulations to Valerie on joining us and
> also
> > to congratulate *us* on being joined by Valerie. Being part of the search
> > panel looking for our next Chief of Community Engagement was an
> interesting
> > and illuminating experience; so many people with so many new...and
> > different...approaches. I was absolutely electrified when I completed my
> > first interview with Valerie, whose considerate and experienced approach
> to
> > community resonated with me immediately and deeply. I cannot wait for the
> > opportunity to work with her in her new role. To those of you who haven’t
> > yet: you’ll see what I mean when you meet her. :)
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Maggie
> >
> >
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> > Chief of Community Engagement (for just a little while longer!)
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcing launch of Santali Language Wikipedia

2018-08-09 Thread Isaac Olatunde
I am happy about this news. Congratulations!

Regards,

Isaac

On Aug 8, 2018 6:31 PM, "Jean-Philippe Béland" 
wrote:

> Congratulations and thank you for sharing your experience!
>
> JP
> User:Amqui
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 8, 2018 at 12:34 PM, Subhashish Panigrahi <
> psubhash...@gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
> > Thank you Haidar for sharing in details about the amazing support that
> > Wikimedia Bangladesh has provided to the community there. Kudos to the
> > Santali community for this achievement and all the best for their
> > activities. And Odia Wikimedians User Group will continue to work with
> them
> > more in the future.
> >
> > Subhashish
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 8, 2018 at 8:27 PM Amir E. Aharoni <
> > amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > This is a wonderful achievement. Shows that dedication and organization
> > can
> > > take you far. Good luck in continuing and developing it further!
> > >
> > > בתאריך יום ד׳, 8 באוג׳ 2018, 17:49, מאת Ali Haidar Khan ‏<
> > > tonmoy...@gmail.com>:
> > >
> > > > Dear All,
> > > >
> > > > We are very pleased to announce the launch of Santali Language
> > Wikipedia
> > > (
> > > > https://sat.wikipedia.org). The site has been launched on August 2,
> > 2018
> > > > and, after the import of pages from Wikimedia Incubator and some
> > > > maintenance work, it’s now open for all. Santali Language’s own
> > alphabet,
> > > > Ol Chiki, has been used as the alphabet of this Wikipedia. Santali is
> > > > a language in the Munda subfamily of Austroasiatic languages, spoken
> by
> > > > around 7.4 million people in South Asia (Bangladesh, India and
> Nepal).
> > > >
> > > > This is a very special moment for us and has been made possible
> because
> > > of
> > > > the joint effort by Santali Language Wikipedian’s from Bangladesh,
> > India
> > > > and Nepal. Wikimedia Bangladesh and Bangla Wikimedia Community
> > > > congratulates the Santali Language Community for their accomplishment
> > and
> > > > are honored to be a part of this tremendous achievement. Manik
> Soren, a
> > > > dedicated Santali Wikipedian from Bangladesh, along with some very
> > active
> > > > Santali Language Wikipedians from Bangladesh and India has been
> > > > instrumental in this effort. We would also like to thank Shabab
> > Mustafa,
> > > > President of Wikimedia Bangladesh and Nahid Sultan, a very active
> > steward
> > > > and Secretary of Wikimedia Bangladesh, for coordinating the effort in
> > > > Bangladesh and Odia Wikimedians User Group for coordinating the
> effort
> > in
> > > > India.
> > > >
> > > > It is worth mentioning that the process of creating a Santali
> Language
> > > > Wikipedia began in 2012 and, later on, got momentum in February,
> 2017.
> > > Back
> > > > in 2012, Wikimedia Bangladesh organized a Wikipedia meetup and
> workshop
> > > > with the Santali Language Community in Dinajpur District of
> Bangladesh
> > > with
> > > > the goal of launching a Santali Language Wikipedia. However, that
> > process
> > > > slowed down after some time. Then in September 2017, Wikimedia
> > Bangladesh
> > > > organized another meeting with Santali Language Community in a Dhaka
> > > > Wikipedia meetup where a decision was made to expedite the launch of
> > the
> > > > Wikipedia. Following that discussion, a workshop was organized by
> > > Wikimedia
> > > > Bangladesh for Santali Language Wikipedians on December 30, 2017.
> > Santali
> > > > Language Wikipedians from India also participated in that program
> > through
> > > > online discussion. Subsequently, another workshop was organized for
> > > Santali
> > > > Language Community in India on March 11, 2018 in collaboration with
> > Odia
> > > > Wikimedians User Group.
> > > >
> > > > After months of work, Santali Language Wikipedia got the approval of
> > > > Language Committee on June 28, 2018 and finally, the Santali
> Wikipedia
> > > site
> > > > was launched on August 2, 2018.
> > > >
> > > > Let us congratulate and welcome the Santali Language Community.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Cheers!
> > > >
> > > > Ali Haidar Khan
> > > >
> > > > Executive Committee Member, Wikimedia Bangladesh
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Inc. working with Go Fish Digital, a company that whitewashes Wikipedia

2018-07-26 Thread Isaac Olatunde
Hi Mario,

I don't think it will be considered harassment if the information is posted
here. I believe the WP:OUTING applies to the English Wikipedia and this is
not English Wikipedia mailing list.

Regards,

Isaac

On Jul 22, 2018 5:43 PM, "Mario Gómez"  wrote:

There, is at least, one user that works for Go Fish Digital with a
sockpuppet account in English Wikipedia and has denied conflict of interest
or paid editing disclosure even if he was asked too, since some user was
suspicious. Should I send this privately? I don't want to incur in spurious
ousting/doxxing.

Best,

Mario

On Sun, Jul 22, 2018 at 12:24 AM, MZMcBride  wrote:

> Hi.
>
> Go Fish Digital is a company that whitewashes Wikipedia. From its own
site:
>
> >The primary platforms that define your online reputation include:
> > [...]
> > * Wikipedia
> > [...]
> >
> > With Online Reputation Management, we work hard to make all of the
> >positive information easy to find.  At the same time, we use many
> >different strategies and tactics to diminish the visibility of negative
> >content, or in some cases, remove it from the web altogether.  The end
> >result is a positive online reputation because when people search your
> >name or brand, they immediately find positive content.
>
> Source: https://gofishdigital.com/online-reputation-management
>
> Wikimedia Foundation Inc. has been working with this company on search
> engine optimization: . I have a
> few questions about this work.
>
> How was this vendor chosen? Which other vendors were considered?
>
> Why is this work being undertaken? At least the English Wikipedia has some
> of the best search engine results placement of any site on the Web, so I'm
> curious to know who's prioritizing Wikipedia's search engine optimization
> and for what reason.
>
> How is it appropriate for Wikimedia Foundation Inc. to work with a company
> that is, by its own admission, whitewashing Wikipedia? Doesn't this give
> Go Fish Digital a ton of legitimization by now being able to say it works
> directly with Wikimedia Foundation Inc. ("with Wikipedia")?
>
> Is it appropriate to give a company that sells whitewashing Wikipedia
> services access to private user data, as was done in
>  and
> ? The Wikimedia Foundation Inc.
> legal department apparently approved this access, but I'm curious to know
> why, given the company's role in selling an "Online Reputation Management"
> product. This looks bad to me.
>
> MZMcBride
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia DC: Knight Prototype Fund support for the Wiki Art Depiction Explorer project

2018-07-20 Thread Isaac Olatunde
Thanks for sharing this news, Rob. This is  certainly a good news.

Regards,

Isaac

On Jul 17, 2018 8:14 PM, "Robert Fernandez"  wrote:

Wikimedia District of Columbia is proud to be the recipient of $50,000 in
support from the Knight Prototype Fund, an initiative of the John S. and
James L. Knight Foundation.   Wikimedia DC will collaborate with the
Smithsonian Institution on a project called the "Wiki Art Depiction
Explorer", an effort to create an interface for museum visitors and other
art enthusiasts to crowdsource metadata about visual depictions in museum
artworks.  Making this data more accurate and robust will allow further and
deeper discovery of these works by anyone in the world.

The project was created by three longtime Wikimedia DC volunteers: Andrew
Lih, author of The Wikipedia Revolution, Effie Kapsalis, Chief of Content &
Communications Strategy at the Smithsonian Institution Archives, and Robert
Fernandez, member of the board of directors of Wikimedia DC.   Andrew Lih
is currently in South Africa for Wikimania and looks forward to talking to
other Wikimedia volunteers about this project.

The aim of the Knight Prototype Fund is to support the development of
innovative ideas to use technology to engage people with the arts and
cultural institutions.  The John S. and James L. Knight Foundation has
previously supported organizations and projects related to Wikimedia,
including the Wikimedia Foundation.

For the announcement from the Knight Foundation, see
https://knightfoundation.org/press/releases/knight-prototype-fund-awards-
projects-that-explore-avenues-for-connecting-people-with-
the-arts-through-tech
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] 2 millions articles for the French Wikipedia

2018-07-08 Thread Isaac Olatunde
Congratulations to the French community. I hope Nigerian language
Wikipedias will achieve this milestone one day.

Greetings from Nigeria,

Regards,

Isaac

On Jul 8, 2018 8:36 AM, "Thierry Coudray"  wrote:

> Hi folks,
>
> La grande nouvelle du jour / the big news today : the French Wikipedia
> reached two millions articles a few hours ago  !
>
> The fr.wp community has written a press release for this milestone with
> subpages for more explanations and get new people to edit WP.
> and, off course, a commemorative logo community will be displayed.
>
> Merci à tous les contributeurs / Thanks for all the editors.
>
>
> https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spécial:Statistiques
>
> https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipédia:Deux_millions_d'
> articles_en_français
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Affiliates] Recognition of the Igbo Wikimedians User Group

2018-05-13 Thread Isaac Olatunde
Congratulations to the founding members. I am happy to be part of the story
that led to the establishment of this group. Feel free to ask the existing
user group in Nigeria for help when the need arise.

Congratulations once again!

Regards

Isaac.

On May 11, 2018 5:39 PM, "Kirill Lokshin"  wrote:

> Hi everyone!
>
> I'm very happy to announce that the Affiliations Committee has recognized
> [1] the Igbo Wikimedians User Group [2] as a Wikimedia User Group. The
> group aims to support the Igbo Wikimedia community and to encourage people
> that are literate in Igbo language at any level to become involved in the
> Wikimedia movement.
>
> Please join me in congratulating the members of this new user group!
>
> Regards,
> Kirill Lokshin
> Chair, Affiliations Committee
>
> [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee/Resol
> utions/Recognition_Igbo_Wikimedians_User_Group
> [2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Igbo_Wikimedians_User_Group
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Was macht dich diese Woche glücklich? / What's making you happy this week? (Week of 15 April 2018)

2018-05-11 Thread Isaac Olatunde
Thank you Sidney. We are happy that folks at WMF takes issues of concerns
very seriously and look for ways to address them.

Regards,

Isaac

On May 9, 2018 10:47 PM, "Sydney Poore"  wrote:

> Hello Mz7,
>
> The Anti-Harassment Tools team who is doing this work really appreciates
> your comment. We're happy, too, to address this issue. I'll be sure to let
> the team's developers, David and Daylann know about your comment.
>
> Sydney Poore
> Wikimedia Foundation
> Anti-Harassment Tools team
>
> On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 5:21 PM, Mz7  wrote:
>
> > > What's making you happy this week? You are welcome to comment in any
> > > language
> >
> >
> > The Community Tech team at the Wikimedia Foundation is pushing a fix to a
> > longstanding issue regarding block notices for users on mobile devices. A
> > year ago, if a blocked user attempted to edit a page from their mobile
> > device, a notice popped up for just a few seconds before automatically
> > disappearing, giving most people insufficient time to read it. Moreover,
> if
> > the reason for a block contained a wikilink or a template, the notice
> would
> > fail to render the link, instead displaying raw HTML. This led to botched
> > notifications that looked as bad as this:  > org/wiki/File:Autoblock_of_usernamekiran.png>.
> >
> > I’m happy to see that a fix is almost ready to be deployed which
> addresses
> > many issues, including rendering links properly. :)  .
> > wikimedia.org/T165535>
> >
> > Mz7
> >
> >
> > > On Apr 15, 2018, at 8:18 PM, Pine W  wrote:
> > >
> > > *Conference*
> > >
> > > The 2018 Wikimedia Conference
> > >  starts
> this
> > > week in Germany. The core conference will occur from the 20th through
> the
> > > 22nd.
> > >
> > >
> > > *WMF Research Showcase*
> > >
> > > On Wednesday, the WMF Research Showcase
> > >  >
> > > will include presentations on two subjects that I think will interest a
> > > number of Wikipedians:
> > >
> > > 1. "The Critical Relationship of Volunteer Created Wikipedia Content to
> > > Large-Scale Online Communities"
> > >
> > > 2. "The Rise and Decline of an Open Collaboration System, a Closer
> Look"
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > *Photography*
> > > As often happens, Wikimedia Commons contributors have selected some
> great
> > > pictures of the day for this month
> > > . Here are a
> > few
> > > examples:
> > >
> > > 1. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Lynx_lynx_-_05.jpg
> > > 2.
> > > https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Mezquita_de_Agha_
> > Bozorg,_Kashan,_Ir%C3%A1n,_2016-09-19,_DD_81.jpg
> > > 3. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Soyuz_TMA-13_Edit.jpg
> > > 4. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Rho_Ophiucus_Widefield.jpg
> > > 5.
> > > https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Indosylvirana_urbis-
> > Kadavoor-2017-05-05-001.jpg
> > > 6.
> > > https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Castillo_de_Zafra,_
> > Campillo_de_Due%C3%B1as,_Guadalajara,_Espa%C3%B1a,_
> > 2017-01-04,_DD_41-46_PAN.jpg
> > > 7
> > > https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Cirrus_front_over_
> > Austnesfjorden,_Austv%C3%A5g%C3%B8ya,_Lofoten,_Norway,_2015_April.jpg
> > > 8
> > > https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Fr%C3%BChlingsallee_
> > Tulpenbl%C3%BCte_2010_(1).jpg
> > >
> > >
> > > What's making you happy this week? You are welcome to comment in any
> > > language
> > >
> > > Pine
> > > ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine )
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[Wikimedia-l] How to deal with spam subscription to mailing list

2018-05-08 Thread Isaac Olatunde
Hi all,

We have been receiving tens of subscription to our mailing list (
wikimedia...@lists.wikimedia.org) from aol.com addresses. Today alone we
have received over 30 subscription from that domain addresses and we find
this very problematic. I'll need the help of a more experienced list
administrators in dealing with this.

Thank you,

Isaac
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Does anyone know what wikimedia france are up to with the Request Network ?

2018-04-29 Thread Isaac Olatunde
Hi Geni,

Have you asked executive members of Wikimedia France? I think they are in
the best position to answer you question.

Regards,

Isaac.

On Apr 27, 2018 2:49 PM, "geni"  wrote:

> According to their twitter feed they have announced a partnership with
> something called the "Request Network‏" for cryptocurrency donations.
> Also this article here
>
> https://www.wikimedia.fr/2018/04/27/wikimedia-france-
> annonce-partenariat-fondation-request-network-accepter-
> donations-crypto-monnaies/
>
> Ok. I don't approve but I'm not french so not its not an area where I
> can reasonably expect anyone to pay any attention to my opinions.
>
> What concerns me is that they have retweeted something claiming the
> partnership is with the wikimedia foundation rather than just
> wikimedia france:
>
> https://twitter.com/wikimedia_fr?lang=en
>
> Is some form of clarification possible?
>
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[Wikimedia-l] Craig Franklin (User:Lankiveil) passed away

2018-04-18 Thread Isaac Olatunde
Dear all,

It's with deep sadness to announce the death of our friend and a dedicated
member of the Wikimedia community, Craig Franklin. I got this news on the
wall of his wife, Leanne Maree Franklin.

Franklin served as treasurer of Wikimedia Australia and as member of the
ombudsman commission.

We will forever missed him.

Regards,

Isaac.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Lankiveil
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] The fact-checked encyclopedia

2018-04-18 Thread Isaac Olatunde
Leigh, I disagree that all projects are hostile to outsiders. When someone
edit in a language they do not speak and use machine to translate contents
for example  and refused to stop after multiple warnings, a block in such
case may not be considered an "hostile" response. That being said, I
completely agree with Rob that fact-checked encyclopedia is more
appropriate considering the hostility in some language Wikipedia, notably
the English Wikipedia. How do you describe a Wikipedia where someone create
their first article and got deleted and when the  page creator approached
the deleting admin on why their article got deleted and the response they
received is "Kindly have the decency to create a decent article ", "count
yourself lucky, I don't talk to IP address "?

Regards,

Isaac.


On Apr 15, 2018 3:21 PM, "Leigh Thelmadatter"  wrote:

> Not just English Wikipedia. All of the projects are hostile to "outsiders"
> Those not in English might even be worse for several reasons
>
> Enviado desde mi LG de Telcel
>
> -- Original message--
> From: Robert Fernandez
> Date: Sun, Apr 15, 2018 9:17 AM
> To: Wikimedia Mailing List;
> Cc:
> Subject:Re: [Wikimedia-l] The fact-checked encyclopedia
>
> Considering the barriers to entry, growing thicket of policies,
> organized group harassment, and open hostility on the English
> Wikipedia, I'm not sure we can even call it "the encyclopedia anyone
> can edit" anymore.  So I'd say fact-checked is a more accurate and
> relevant claim these days.
>
> On Sun, Apr 15, 2018 at 8:53 AM, Anthony Cole  wrote:
> > I just googled “wikipedia” and the first result was a Google ad linking
> to
> > wikipedia.org.[1] It calls Wikipedia the fact-checked encyclopedia. We
> used
> > to call it the encyclopedia anyone can edit. The latter seems more honest
> > than this new formulation which to me implies a degree of reliability and
> > oversight I'm not sure we can ethically assert. I missed the discussion
> > about this new self-description. Did it happen on meta? Is anyone else
> > uncomfortabe with this?
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Affiliates] De-recognition of Wikimedia user groups in Brazil

2018-04-09 Thread Isaac Olatunde
Hi Kiril,

You wrote above "all reasonable attempts to resolve the conflict have
failed". It would be interesting to let us have the idea of these
reasonable attempts. Why did you think de-recognizing these groups is the
best decision? What I understood from Tele's comment is that you did
nothing to resolve the issues and you just watched the conflicts escalated.
This is probably  not a good thing to hear about the affiliation committee.

Regards,

Isaac

On Apr 9, 2018 7:54 AM, "Ilario Valdelli"  wrote:

> Hi Kirill
> It makes sense to explain a little bit about the conflict management and
> the position of both sides to define why both groups have been
> derecognized.
>
> At the opposite this decision will give the feeling that, to attack a
> local Group, it will be sufficient to create another local Group and to be
> recognized and to open a conflict and to drive all parties to unresolute it
> to reach the primary and original goal.
>
> Kind regards
>
> On Sun, 8 Apr 2018, 20:20 Kirill Lokshin, 
> wrote:
>
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> Recognition as a Wikimedia movement affiliate — a chapter, thematic
>> organization, or user group — is a privilege that allows an independent
>> group to officially use the Wikimedia trademarks to further the Wikimedia
>> mission. To receive and maintain their status as recognized Wikimedia
>> affiliates, groups are required to comply with certain requirements, which
>> are identified in each group's individual chapter, thematic organization,
>> or user group agreement.  In particular, the terms of the Wikimedia User
>> Group Agreement and Code of Conduct prohibit user groups from engaging in
>> activity that poses significant risk to other Wikimedia organizations or
>> Wikimedia projects.
>>
>> As many of you doubtlessly know, the two Wikimedia user groups based in
>> Brazil — Wikimedia Community User Group Brasil and Wiki Education Brazil —
>> have been engaged in a severe and protracted conflict, which has resulted
>> in significant harm to past, ongoing, and planned Wikimedia movement
>> activities in Brazil.  As all reasonable attempts to resolve the conflict
>> have failed, the Affiliations Committee is left with no choice but to
>> withdraw the groups' recognition as Wikimedia affiliates.
>>
>> Consequently, the recognition of Wikimedia Community User Group Brasil and
>> Wiki Education Brazil as Wikimedia user groups has been revoked, and the
>> Wikimedia Foundation's legal department has been requested to formally
>> terminate their respective user group agreements as soon as practicable.
>> Further, the specific individuals who served as the primary contacts for
>> these user groups will be prohibited from serving as primary contacts for
>> any user group application or existing user group for a period of one
>> year.
>>
>> The Affiliations Committee recognizes that this is an unprecedented and
>> unfortunate development. However, we hope that this step will allow the
>> Wikimedia community in Brazil to work towards a new organizational
>> structure and model that will better serve the needs of movement
>> participants and stakeholders in the country.
>>
>> Any questions regarding this matter should be addressed directly to the
>> Affiliations Committee.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Kirill Lokshin
>> Chair, Affiliations Committee
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] De-recognition of Wikimedia user groups in Brazil

2018-04-09 Thread Isaac Olatunde
Extremely sad news. I can't comment on the fairness but it does seem like
the best decision has been taken.


Regards,

Isaac

On Apr 8, 2018 9:52 PM, "Lucas Teles"  wrote:

> That’s very unexpected. I actually have been trying to talk with WMF plenty
> of times and waiting and waiting for a word from you. Though you probably
> received lots of emails from me and others, I don’t think I have a single
> email from you guys about this in my inbox
>
> I have literally implored you to provide me and answer for a few cases
> opened has been a while in order to have any instruction or advice on how
> to act in many situations. But that never came.
>
> This is probably the first time I hear from you, Kirill, and I respectfully
> disagree that one can consider that you did well on it. You just let it all
> happen and watched this escalate without any help. We were working on our
> mistakes, we were building our code of conduct, accepted mediation with
> Millos and others, but the feeling is that we were totally alone on that.
> Sadly, your actions were always directed to both groups as if you were
> avoiding to take any side or decision, like you are doing now, taking a
> general action and not addressing any issue specifically.
>
> I hope this change is for the best, but also hope that you can recognize
> your own mistakes here as others from WMF did. Just like I don’t think we
> did well every single moment and try to learn from it, you can’t really
> believe that you did a good job here. If you do (and that is the impression
> we have from your message), that is worrying. Then again, I hear from you,
> after so much time of silence and what I hear is punishment. You can’t
> probably think that you are being any educational on the matter. Sorry if
> there is any harsh word above, but that is sincerely unintentional.
>
> Have a good day.
>
> Teles
>
>
> Em dom, 8 de abr de 2018 às 16:32, Vi to 
> escreveu:
>
> > Sad outcome though fair, reasonable and expected.
> > I hope some new group will arise from these ruins.
> >
> > Vito
> >
> > 2018-04-08 20:19 GMT+02:00 Kirill Lokshin :
> >
> > > Hello everyone,
> > >
> > > Recognition as a Wikimedia movement affiliate — a chapter, thematic
> > > organization, or user group — is a privilege that allows an independent
> > > group to officially use the Wikimedia trademarks to further the
> Wikimedia
> > > mission. To receive and maintain their status as recognized Wikimedia
> > > affiliates, groups are required to comply with certain requirements,
> > which
> > > are identified in each group's individual chapter, thematic
> organization,
> > > or user group agreement.  In particular, the terms of the Wikimedia
> User
> > > Group Agreement and Code of Conduct prohibit user groups from engaging
> in
> > > activity that poses significant risk to other Wikimedia organizations
> or
> > > Wikimedia projects.
> > >
> > > As many of you doubtlessly know, the two Wikimedia user groups based in
> > > Brazil — Wikimedia Community User Group Brasil and Wiki Education
> Brazil
> > —
> > > have been engaged in a severe and protracted conflict, which has
> resulted
> > > in significant harm to past, ongoing, and planned Wikimedia movement
> > > activities in Brazil.  As all reasonable attempts to resolve the
> conflict
> > > have failed, the Affiliations Committee is left with no choice but to
> > > withdraw the groups' recognition as Wikimedia affiliates.
> > >
> > > Consequently, the recognition of Wikimedia Community User Group Brasil
> > and
> > > Wiki Education Brazil as Wikimedia user groups has been revoked, and
> the
> > > Wikimedia Foundation's legal department has been requested to formally
> > > terminate their respective user group agreements as soon as
> practicable.
> > > Further, the specific individuals who served as the primary contacts
> for
> > > these user groups will be prohibited from serving as primary contacts
> for
> > > any user group application or existing user group for a period of one
> > year.
> > >
> > > The Affiliations Committee recognizes that this is an unprecedented and
> > > unfortunate development. However, we hope that this step will allow the
> > > Wikimedia community in Brazil to work towards a new organizational
> > > structure and model that will better serve the needs of movement
> > > participants and stakeholders in the country.
> > >
> > > Any questions regarding this matter should be addressed directly to the
> > > Affiliations Committee.
> > >
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> > > Kirill Lokshin
> > > Chair, Affiliations Committee
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Future of video summaries of diseases on EN WP

2018-04-01 Thread Isaac Olatunde
Dear all,

Doc James has announced the termination of the partnership with Osmosis on
Jimbo's talk page.[1]
According to him, they would will be removing any mention of collaborating
with Wikipedia or Wiki Project Mexico Foundation from current documents and
going forward.

Regards,

Isaac
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jimbo_Wales#Update


On Mar 28, 2018 9:54 PM, "Tito Dutta"  wrote:

> Hi
> Really interesting discussion. Thanks for informing. Will watch and add
> comment after a little study of the videos for accessibility etc.
>
>
> Thanks
> Tito Dutta
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> On 29 March 2018 at 02:15, James Heilman  wrote:
>
> > Hey All
> >
> > We are having a discussion about the future of video summaries of
> diseases.
> > This pertains to a collaboration with the Khan Academy / Osmosis and as
> the
> > videos are used across multiple languages and video has been one of the
> top
> > requested items am posting a link to this RfC here
> >
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_
> > Medicine#RfC:_Should_Wikipedia_contain_video_summaries_of_diseases?_And_
> > how_should_they_be_presented
> > ?
> >
> > Best
> > --
> > James Heilman
> > MD, CCFP-EM, Wikipedian
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Future of video summaries of diseases on EN WP

2018-04-01 Thread Isaac Olatunde
I mean collaboration with Wiki Project Med Foundation and "Wiki Project
Mexico Foundation "

Regards,

Isaac

Note: I'm currently on a mobile device

On Apr 1, 2018 2:29 PM, "Isaac Olatunde" <reachout2is...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> Doc James has announced the termination of the partnership with Osmosis on
> Jimbo's talk page.[1]
> According to him, they would will be removing any mention of collaborating
> with Wikipedia or Wiki Project Mexico Foundation from current documents and
> going forward.
>
> Regards,
>
> Isaac
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jimbo_Wales#Update
>
>
> On Mar 28, 2018 9:54 PM, "Tito Dutta" <trulyt...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi
>> Really interesting discussion. Thanks for informing. Will watch and add
>> comment after a little study of the videos for accessibility etc.
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>> Tito Dutta
>> Note: If I don't reply to your email in 2 days, please feel free to remind
>> me over email or phone call.
>>
>> On 29 March 2018 at 02:15, James Heilman <jmh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Hey All
>> >
>> > We are having a discussion about the future of video summaries of
>> diseases.
>> > This pertains to a collaboration with the Khan Academy / Osmosis and as
>> the
>> > videos are used across multiple languages and video has been one of the
>> top
>> > requested items am posting a link to this RfC here
>> >
>> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_
>> > Medicine#RfC:_Should_Wikipedia_contain_video_summaries_of_di
>> seases?_And_
>> > how_should_they_be_presented
>> > ?
>> >
>> > Best
>> > --
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>> > MD, CCFP-EM, Wikipedian
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Future of video summaries of diseases on EN WP

2018-04-01 Thread Isaac Olatunde
I mean collaboration with Wiki Project Med Foundation and *not "Wiki
Project Mexico Foundation "*

Regards,

Isaac

On Apr 1, 2018 2:33 PM, wrote:

> I mean collaboration with Wiki Project Med Foundation and "Wiki Project
> Mexico Foundation "
>
> Regards,
>
> Isaac
>
> Note: I'm currently on a mobile device
>
> On Apr 1, 2018 2:29 PM, "Isaac Olatunde" <reachout2is...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> Doc James has announced the termination of the partnership with Osmosis
>> on Jimbo's talk page.[1]
>> According to him, they would will be removing any mention of
>> collaborating with Wikipedia or Wiki Project Mexico Foundation from current
>> documents and going forward.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Isaac
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jimbo_Wales#Update
>>
>>
>> On Mar 28, 2018 9:54 PM, "Tito Dutta" <trulyt...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi
>>> Really interesting discussion. Thanks for informing. Will watch and add
>>> comment after a little study of the videos for accessibility etc.
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Tito Dutta
>>> Note: If I don't reply to your email in 2 days, please feel free to
>>> remind
>>> me over email or phone call.
>>>
>>> On 29 March 2018 at 02:15, James Heilman <jmh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> > Hey All
>>> >
>>> > We are having a discussion about the future of video summaries of
>>> diseases.
>>> > This pertains to a collaboration with the Khan Academy / Osmosis and
>>> as the
>>> > videos are used across multiple languages and video has been one of
>>> the top
>>> > requested items am posting a link to this RfC here
>>> >
>>> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_
>>> > Medicine#RfC:_Should_Wikipedia_contain_video_summaries_of_di
>>> seases?_And_
>>> > how_should_they_be_presented
>>> > ?
>>> >
>>> > Best
>>> > --
>>> > James Heilman
>>> > MD, CCFP-EM, Wikipedian
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of Grŵp Defnyddwyr Cymuned Wicimedia Cymru

2018-03-23 Thread Isaac Olatunde
One of the objectives of the group is to "cooperate with and represent
Wikimedia UK in Wales". This is not the same as "We legally represent
Wikimedia UK in Wales". User groups does not legally  represent the WMF and
or any chapter. If a group claim they represent a chapter in a state or
district, AffCom may ask for clarification from the group representatives.
If the response is that "we do not legally represent the chapter ", AffCom
will have no choice than to approve their application if they meet the
basic requirements for recognition.

Regards,

Isaac.

On Mar 20, 2018 4:04 PM, "Kirill Lokshin"  wrote:

Descriptions of user group activities on Meta shouldn't be interpreted as
legal documents under UK law (or any other legal code, for that matter).

Any questions regarding potential legal implications for Wikimedia UK
should, of course, be directed to the chapter itself.

Regards,
Kirill Lokshin
Chair, Affiliations Committee

On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 7:11 AM, Fæ  wrote:

> Support the request that AffCom share their understanding of the scope
> and authority of the announced User Group.
>
> From the wording of "represent Wikimedia UK in Wales"[1], the UG is
> not independent of WMUK and consequently acts as a Chapter subsidiary.
> As far as I am aware, there is no other regional based UG which does
> this.
>
> As a corollary, the representation has legal implications for UK
> Charity. WMUK must have both responsibility and the authority to
> monitor and control how they are represented by the UG. It is not
> clear from the meta web page or the community vote how this will work,
> apart from the implicit assumption that funding paid to UG projects is
> effectively managed as a WMUK continuing programme. Presumably the UG
> will not be requesting funds from the WMF or via the FDC process
> separate from WMUK's FDC procedure.
>
> The original vote at the Welsh Wikipedia compared the aims to that of
> the Basque UG.[2] However based on their scope, the Basque UG does not
> officially represent any other affiliate or Chapter.
>
> Links
> 1. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Community_User_Group_Wales
> 2. https://cy.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wicipedia:Sefydlu_Gr%C5%B5p_
> Defnyddwyr_Wicimedia
>
> On 19 March 2018 at 00:10, Philip Kopetzky 
> wrote:
> > Hi Kirill!
> >
> > It would be really helpful to outline these kind of decisions with
> > arguments/deliberations that AffCom decided to follow, considering that
> > this sets a precedence in the worldwide community. For example, UG Wales
> > states that they "cooperate with and represent Wikimedia UK in Wales" -
> > does this mean that we are now accepting UGs within chapters? Is this UG
> > supposed to be able to apply for grants, despite its overlap with WMUK?
> >
> > Best,
> > Philip
> >
> >
> >
> > On 11 March 2018 at 15:44, Shlomi Fish  wrote:
> >
> >> On Sun, 11 Mar 2018 10:32:34 -0400
> >> Kirill Lokshin  wrote:
> >>
> >> > Hi everyone!
> >> >
> >> > I'm very happy to announce that the Affiliations Committee has
> recognized
> >> > Grŵp Defnyddwyr Cymuned Wicimedia Cymru (Wikimedia Community User
> Group
> >> > Wales) [1] as a Wikimedia User Group. The group aims to promote the
> >> > Wikimedia movement in Wales and support the development of Wikimedia
> >> > projects and content in the Welsh language.
> >> >
> >> > Please join me in congratulating the members of this new user group!
> >> >
> >>
> >> congratulations!
> >>
> >> > Regards,
> >> > Kirill Lokshin
> >> > Chair, Affiliations Committee
> >> >
> >> > [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Community_User_
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] #WeMissTurkey social media campaign

2018-03-06 Thread Isaac Olatunde
AFAIK, both Twitter and Facebook are banned by the Turkish government.

Regards,

Isaac

On Mar 6, 2018 8:50 AM, "mathieu stumpf guntz" <
psychosl...@culture-libre.org> wrote:

> Hello Zachary,
>
> First, thank you and all people involved for this great initiative.
>
> There are two points for which I would be happy to have more information
> about.
>
> The first one is about the state of censorship in Turkey, not only
> regarding each Wikimedia project, but also for the communication canal
> intended to diffuse this campaign, namely Facebook and Twitter. Are they
> free of any censorship from the Turkish government? Also, although I guess
> this was already taken into account, is there some some communication
> platform particularly praised among Turkish people outside this two
> platform?
>
> The second is more broad, on the Wikimedia effort regarding censorship.
> There are some resources I easily found [1][2][3], but nothing as an
> official up-to-date comprehensive overview of the state of censorship
> affecting Wikimedia projects in the world. Something like a page including
> a world map showing various degree of censorship and a description of how
> and why it's in place, as well as Wikimedia initiatives aiming at making
> cease this kind of practices.
>
> Thank you again for this initiative, and thank you in advance for any
> feedback on this points.
>
> [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Censorship
> [2] https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Notices_received_from_
> search_engines
> [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_of_Wikipedia
>
>
> Le 05/03/2018 à 20:44, Zachary McCune a écrit :
>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> For the last 10 months, several teams within the Wikimedia Foundation have
>> been working with the local Turkish community to lift the block of
>> Wikipedia in Turkey.
>>
>> Today, we have launched a social media campaign designed to help raise
>> international awareness of the block and send a positive message to our
>> friends in Turkey. We are asking individual volunteers, affiliates, and
>> anyone else who would like to participate to join us in one of several
>> ways. More details are below and on Meta-Wiki:
>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/
>> wiki/Communications/WeMissTurkey
>>
>> The campaign, based around the hashtag #WeMissTurkey, is an opportunity
>> for
>> all of us to tell our friends in Turkey that we miss them and help inform
>> the world what impact their absence is having.
>>
>>
>> == An overview of the #WeMissTurkey campaign ==
>>
>>  From March 5-12, we will be reminding the world about the Turkish block
>> of
>> Wikipedia. We will communicate primarily on Twitter and Facebook- networks
>> where advocates for Wikipedia can increase the reach of messages about the
>> block.
>>
>> On Twitter, we will share a series of tweets about Turkish culture,
>> history, sports, etc. from @Wikipedia . We’ll also be sharing messages
>> that
>> express sadness for missing the perspectives of Turkish people on our
>> projects, and our hopes that access to Wikipedia will be restored in
>> Turkey.
>>
>> On Facebook, we have developed a "photo frame" users can add to their
>> profile picture to show support for Wikipedia in Turkey.
>>
>> In addition to posting messages, we will also be sharing some posters from
>> Turkish artists which help visualize the culture and knowledge we are
>> missing. The posters will be released throughout the week and available
>> for
>> you to utilize. We invite you to develop posters or graphics of your own.
>>
>> We hope that affiliates and volunteers around the world will join us! You
>> can get involved in a number of ways, including by creating, sharing, and
>> retweeting messages, sharing our posters and creating your own, and more!
>> More details on how to get involved are on the Meta-Wiki campaign page:
>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Communications/WeMissTurkey
>>
>>
>> == On tone ==
>>
>> The messages for this campaign are being directed to the people of Turkey,
>> and have a positive message and tone. We do not want to use this campaign
>> to directly confront authorities in Turkey. We are asking that others
>> managing Wikimedia social media accounts join us, and be respectful of the
>> positive goal and message. This messaging approach for the campaign is
>> part
>> of a broader, ongoing strategy from the Wikimedia Foundation to lift the
>> block of Wikipedia in Turkey.
>>
>>
>> If you have any questions, let us know!
>>
>>
>> Zack & the Comms team
>>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] New Stewards elected

2018-03-05 Thread Isaac Olatunde
Congratulations. Wishing you all the best in your new role.

Regards,

Isaac

On Mar 1, 2018 6:49 AM, "Lodewijk"  wrote:

> My best wishes to the new stewards! Enjoy the ride, with all these exciting
> communities...
>
> Lodewijk
>
> On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 9:14 PM, Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedia-l <
> wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org> wrote:
>
> > Compared to the low point of 2016, it is glad that for another year we
> had
> > enough elected candidates.
> > Five is a good number.
> >
> > Il Giovedì 1 Marzo 2018 1:36, Md. Ibrahim Husain 
> > ha scritto:
> >
> >
> >  Congrats to the new stewards.
> >
> > On Thursday, March 1, 2018, Mardetanha 
> wrote:
> >
> > > Hey Wikimedia community
> > > after a long election we finally have couple new stewards elected
> > >
> > >
> > >1. علاء  > D8%A1>
> > > (
> > >talk  > > D8%A7%D8%A1>
> > >· contribs
> > > > > D8%B9%D9%84%D8%A7%D8%A1>
> > >)
> > >2. Green Giant 
> > (talk
> > > · contribs
> > > >)
> > >3. Rxy  (talk
> > > · contribs
> > >)
> > >4. -revi  (talk
> > > · contribs
> > >)
> > >5. There'sNoTime  > wiki/User:There%27sNoTime>
> > > (
> > >talk  ·
> > >contribs
> > > > There%27sNoTime
> > > >)
> > >
> > >
> > > please join me in welcoming them for the new position and
> congratulating
> > > them for gaining communities trust.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Mardetanha
> > > On behalf of election committee
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Paid translation

2018-02-25 Thread Isaac Olatunde
How about training language experts in academic institutions on how to
translate contents from one language Wikipedia (Eg. English wikipedia) to
another? I believe this would be more productive than paying people
directly to contribute or translate contents.

Sometimes in 2016, I discussed with a professor of Yoruba language and Head
of Department of Yoruba language on possible collaboration between the
department and the Yoruba Wikipedia community. We agreed that students
could be assigned to translating high quality articles from the English
Wikipedia to Yoruba Wikipedia and they could be doing these translations as
part of their course work in Yoruba language.

In Nigerian universities for example, Yoruba students take "Àyan Ògbùfò
(the principle of translation) " as part of a course(s) they must pass to
be awarded a degree in Yoruba language.

We could take advantage of this and approach them on possible collaboration.

Today, I had about 30 minutes discussion with  one of the contributors to
the Yoruba language version

of  The watchtower and awake! magazine.

on possible collaboration. He was excited and agreed to be fully involved.

There are institutions and individuals  that would be interested in
translating high quality contents, we just need to reach out to them and
devise a means to get them fully involved.

Regards,

Isaac


On Sat, Feb 24, 2018 at 4:04 PM, James Heilman  wrote:

> I agree with John that it is very difficult to turn a translator into a new
> editor. I also agree with Jean-Philippe that it is key to have involvement
> of the local projects and preferable if they lead the efforts. Of the
> languages we worked in only one explicitly requested not to be involved /
> have translations from TWB.
>
> James
>
> On Sat, Feb 24, 2018 at 7:59 AM, John Erling Blad 
> wrote:
>
> > You can turn it around; give added credits for translations from small
> > language projects and into the larger ones, that is a lot more
> interesting
> > than strictly translating from the larger language projects.
> >
> > On Sat, Feb 24, 2018 at 3:55 PM, Jean-Philippe Béland <
> > jpbel...@wikimedia.ca
> > > wrote:
> >
> > > I think the request for such projects should come from the concerned
> > > language projects, same for the list of articles. If not, in my simple
> > > opinion, it is a form of coloniasm again.
> > >
> > > Jean-Philippe Béland
> > > Vice President, Wikimedia Canada
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sat, Feb 24, 2018 at 9:40 AM John Erling Blad 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Should have added that the remaining points are somewhat less
> > interesting
> > > > in this context. Preloading a set of articles is a bad idea, the
> > > > translators should be able to chose for themselves. Articles should
> > also
> > > be
> > > > pretty broad, not very narrow technical or medical, ie vertical
> > articles,
> > > > as the number of editors that can handle those will be pretty small.
> > > >
> > > > In particular: Do not believe you can turn a teanslator into a new
> > > editor!
> > > > You can although turn an existing editor into a translator.
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, Feb 24, 2018 at 3:34 PM, John Erling Blad 
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > 1) You must start with high quality content and thus all articles
> are
> > > > >> extensively improved before being proposed for translation.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Note that to much pressure on "quality" can easily kill the
> project.
> > > > >
> > > > > 3) The "Content Translation" tool developed by the WMF made efforts
> > > more
> > > > >> efficient than handing around word documents. Would love to see
> that
> > > > tool
> > > > >> improved further such as having it support specific lists of
> > articles
> > > > that
> > > > >> are deemed ready for translation by certain groups. Would also
> love
> > > the
> > > > >> tool to have tracking metrics for these types of projects.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Didn't mention ContentTranslation, but it should be pretty obvious.
> > > > >
> > > > > 4) We used volunteer translators mostly associated with our partner
> > > > >> Translators Without Borders. One issue we found was that languages
> > in
> > > > >> which
> > > > >> their are lots of translators such as French, Spanish, and Italian
> > > there
> > > > >> is
> > > > >> often already at least some content on many of the topics in
> > question.
> > > > The
> > > > >> issue than becomes integration which needs an expert Wikipedia.
> And
> > > for
> > > > >> languages in which we have little content there are often few
> > > avaliable
> > > > >> volunteers.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I used projects below 65k articles as an example, as the chance of
> > > > > competing articles are pretty low.
> > > > >
> > > > > 5) With respect to "paying per word" the 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Lower page views

2018-01-23 Thread Isaac Olatunde
Perhaps our readers aren't getting their topics of interest on Wikipedia,
partly because Wikipedia is becoming nothing more than a biographical
encyclopedia.

Regards,

Isaac.

On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 5:54 PM, James Heilman  wrote:

> Our data is only comparable between May 2015 and Dec 2017 so:
>
> Nov/Dec/Jan 15/16 total 15.7, 14.6, 16.2
>
> Nov/Dec/Jan 16/17 total 16.4, 15.5, 17.0
>
> Nov/Dec/Jan 17/18 total 15.3, 14.3, 16.4 (last number an estimate)
>
> So went up from 15/16 to 16/17 and now come down in 17/18 to about were it
> was in 15/16. We are definitely not seeing growth in pageviews though which
> is concerning.
>
> James
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 5:10 AM, Wojciech Pędzich 
> wrote:
>
> > In order to have at least a partial answer we would need to know how the
> > pageviews relate to actual database traffic I assume? That would explain
> > Google and I do not know whether there are any other services worldwide
> > that use the datastram without actually displaying pages.
> >
> > Wojciech
> >
> > 2018-01-23 11:55 GMT+01:00 Anders Wennersten :
> >
> > > We are seeing a steady decrease of page views to our projects
> > (Wikipedia).
> > > Nov-Dec-Jan it is decreasing in a rate of 5-10% (year-year), and for
> big
> > > languages like Japanese,  Spanish close to 10%, or some months even
> more
> > > [1]
> > >
> > > Is there any insights of why this is so? Could it be that Google take
> > over
> > > accesses with their ever better way of showing results direct  (but
> then
> > > also with showing extracts of Wikipedia articles) . Or that our
> interface
> > > on mobiles is inferior so we miss accesses from mobiles (now being 54%
> of
> > > total). Or horror of horror that users look for facts on all new sites
> > with
> > > fake news instead of Wikipedia?
> > >
> > > Anders
> > >
> > > [1] https://stats.wikimedia.org/EN/TablesPageViewsMonthlyCombined.htm
> > >
> > >
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wmfall] Leadership of Wikimedia Foundation's Communications department

2018-01-07 Thread Isaac Olatunde
I Wish you both the best in your new role.

Regards,

Isaac.

On Jan 5, 2018 10:58 PM, "Michelle Fitzhugh-Craig" 
wrote:

> This is great! Welcome Kui and Heather Congrats! I am excited about the
> direction the team is taking and look forward to working with you both!
>
> MFC:)
>
>
> --
> 
> Michelle Fitzhugh-Craig
> Wordsmith | Communications
> Wikimedia Foundation
> 1 Montgomery St., Suite #1600
> San Francisco, CA 94104
> *mfitzh...@wikimedia.org *
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 12:58 PM, Katherine Maher 
> wrote:
>
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > I am excited to share with you all the results of our search for
> permanent
> > leadership of the Wikimedia Foundation's Communications department.
> >
> > Our own Heather Walls will transition from interim Chief of
> Communications
> > to leading the department full-time, in the newly created role of Chief
> > Creative Officer. She will be joined by a new Vice President of
> > Communications, Kui Kinyanjui, who will join us from her home in Nairobi,
> > Kenya in early March. Please join me in congratulating Heather and
> > welcoming Kui!
> >
> > *The new roles*
> >
> > As Chief Creative Officer, Heather will remain at the Leadership team,
> > with responsibility for the Communications department operations, and a
> > mandate that focuses on helping people better understand our values and
> > mission through our brand. She will oversee the organization and
> movement’s
> > voice, tone, and visual assets, and how they are incorporated into
> > everything from our recent awareness videos to our press statements. What
> > do we sound and look like? How do you feel when you interact with us, as
> an
> > editor, a reader, a donor? How do we spread and share our values? She
> will
> > be responsible for new and creative initiatives that seek to expand the
> way
> > people think about Wikipedia and Wikimedia, not only as an encyclopedia
> but
> > an essential part of the way we understand the world.
> >
> > As Vice President of Communications, Kui will report directly to Heather
> > and oversee our traditional and digital communications efforts. She will
> be
> > responsible for our overall media positioning and coverage, critical
> issue
> > management (also known as crisis communications), extending our digital
> > media strategy, products, and presence, and supporting organizational
> > leadership, such as myself, the Leadership team, and the Board, with
> > effective and clear public communications. Kui also brings new and
> valuable
> > skills that we’re sure to appreciate: first, a background in internal
> > communications, which should help with improved information flows in our
> > ever-more distributed organization, as well as a deep background in
> > communications, campaigns, and marketing for emerging markets -- sure to
> be
> > a critical skill for our efforts around improving awareness about
> Wikimedia
> > in places where we want to reach more people.
> >
> > *About Heather Walls*
> >
> > Since joining the Foundation in 2011, Heather has been a driving force in
> > our creative and brand efforts at the Foundation. Under her stewardship,
> > the Foundation has dramatically reduced barriers to community usage of
> the
> > trademarks under our care while also helping increase consistency in
> their
> > usage. A member of the team before Communications was its own department,
> > Heather was one of the first people I met and worked with when I joined
> as
> > Chief Communications Officer. She graciously stepped in as leader of the
> > department when I transitioned to Executive Director and has since grown
> > into the role while making it her own. During that time, she has helped
> > find the organization's place in the growing social media channels,
> > modernized the Foundation’s brand, bringing it into greater alignment
> with
> > our movement's values and workflows, and overseen pioneering
> > community-supported awareness campaigns.
> >
> > Prior to joining the Foundation, Heather worked in design roles at
> > organizations across California, Massachusetts, and the Midwest. She
> > developed a special collections room and exhibit for California Academy
> of
> > Sciences, and her work has been included in Architectural Record and
> > exhibited at Harvard as well as Detroit and New York.
> >
> > *About Kui Kinyanjui*
> >
> > Kui will join the Foundation in March after concluding her current
> > position as Head of Corporate Communications for Safaricom Limited in
> > Kenya. Safaricom is one of the leading mobile network operators in
> Africa,
> > and one of Kenya’s leading companies, providing mobile and banking
> services
> > to more than 28 million Kenyans. She brings deep communications skills,
> an
> > incredible wealth of knowledge around emerging markets, and a passion for
> > our efforts to reach beyond English-speaking audiences in our
> organization
> > and movement 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Odisha Government's Social media accounts are now under CC-BY 4.0

2018-01-01 Thread Isaac Olatunde
I am happy to begin this year with a good news like this.

Once again, congratulations!

Regards,

Isaac

On Jan 1, 2018 7:37 PM, "Sailesh Patnaik" 
wrote:

> Thank you, Ravi and Isaac!|
>
> I'm happy to share that, continuing the collaboration with the Odia
> community, Today, the Government of Odisha has announced to release the
> content of two major departments;  Information and Public Relations and ST
> & SC Development, Minorities & Backward Classes Welfare Dept.  under
> Creative Commons license. Both the department has a huge collection of
> content and will help in improving a lot of Wikipedia articles.
> It was announced by the I dept. and also by the Chief Minister's Office,
> https://twitter.com/CMO_Odisha/status/947838684874792960. The required
> changes will be made in the upcoming week.
>
> ---
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> Community Advocate, Access To Knowledge Program
> Centre for Internet and Society
> Phone: +91-7537097770
> *LinkedIn* : https://www.linkedin.com/in/sailesh-patnaik-551a10b4
> *Twitter*: @saileshpat
>
> On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 8:42 PM, Ravishankar Ayyakkannu <
> rayyakka...@wikimedia.org> wrote:
>
> > Sailesh and all Odia community members,
> >
> > This is an impressive accomplishment! Congrats!
> >
> > Especially, the short turn-around time to take the decision is remarkable
> > and it was a smart move to ask the social media account to be freely
> > licensed.
> >
> > Ravi
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 6:04 PM, Nurunnaby Hasive 
> wrote:
> >
> > > Wow! Congratulations!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hasive
> > >
> > > On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 7:03 AM, Zachary McCune  >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Very exciting news Sailesh! Congrats on this wide-reaching
> > collaboration.
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 11:35 AM, Sailesh Patnaik <
> > > > sailesh.patnaik...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Thank you, Katy!!
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, 20 Sep 2017 at 12:27 AM, Katy Love 
> > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Sailesh,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What great news!! What a remarkable achievement! Thanks for
> sharing
> > > > this
> > > > > > with us. I really like the blog post, too. Congratulations!!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Katy
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 8:09 AM, Sailesh Patnaik <
> > > > > > sailesh.patnaik...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hello Everyone,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I am glad to share a recent collaboration of Odia Wikipedia
> > > community
> > > > > > with
> > > > > > > the Government of Odisha.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > After releasing the content of 2017 Asian Athletics
> > Championships (
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > https://blog.wikimedia.org/2017/07/28/digest-asia-
> > > > > athletics-championships/
> > > > > > > ) another initiative by the Government of Odisha to bridge the
> > > dearth
> > > > > of
> > > > > > > Information about Odisha on Wikipedia by releasing its social
> > media
> > > > > > > accounts under CC-BY 4.0.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Earlier this week, the community members met the Government
> > > officials
> > > > > > > regarding this, and after understanding the value of Open
> > Content,
> > > it
> > > > > > took
> > > > > > > only 24hrs to release the social media channels under CC-BY 4.0
> > > > > license.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > As a pilot project, 8 social media accounts from Government of
> > > Odisha
> > > > > are
> > > > > > > under CC-BY 4.0,Now, the content is free for everyone to use,
> > > share,
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > build upon their work.
> > > > > > > https://blog.wikimedia.org/2017/09/18/odisha-social-
> > > > > media-free-license/
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The community is also planning to take the collaboration
> further
> > > and
> > > > > > > relicense some of the websites under CC-BY 4.0.
> > > > > > > --
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> > > > > > > Centre for Internet and Society
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Austin Hair is gone

2017-12-19 Thread Isaac Olatunde
Very sad news. May his gentle soul rest in perfect peace.

Regards,

Isaac

On Dec 18, 2017 2:51 PM, "Asaf Bartov"  wrote:

> Dear Wikimedians,
>
> I regret to have to inform this list that veteran Wikimedian and longtime
> volunteer administrator of this mailing list, Austin Hair (User:Austin
> Hair), has died, after prolonged health complications.
>
> If you knew him, a good place to leave condolences is his talk page:
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Austin_Hair#Condolences
>
> Life is short. Be kind to one another.
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of Wikimedia Community User Group Botswana

2017-12-16 Thread Isaac Olatunde
I am happy to hear about this.

 Good luck to the founding members.

Regards,

Isaac.

On Dec 15, 2017 3:57 PM, "Natacha Rault"  wrote:

> Glad to see a new user group in Africa! Welcome and all the best! Nattes à
> chat
> > Le 15 déc. 2017 à 15:52, Samuel Patton  a écrit :
> >
> > Awesome! Congratulations and welcome.
> >
> > On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 9:34 PM, Kirill Lokshin <
> kirill.loks...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Hi everyone!
> >>
> >> I'm very happy to announce that the Affiliations Committee has
> recognized
> >> Wikimedia Community User Group Botswana [1] as a Wikimedia User Group.
> The
> >> group aims to promote the use of Wikipedia and its sister projects by
> the
> >> residents of Botswana, effectively engaging people to help contribute
> >> online content and promoting the use of the free online resources of the
> >> Wikimedia Foundation to enhance the life of every individual.
> >>
> >> Please join me in congratulating the members of this new user group!
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Kirill Lokshin
> >> Chair, Affiliations Committee
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimédia France new Board members

2017-12-08 Thread Isaac Olatunde
Congratulations to the newly elected members.

Regards,

Isaac.

On Dec 8, 2017 5:11 PM, "Nadine Le Lirzin"  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
>
> We’re glad to briefly present to the community the two new members elected
> on December 2 to Wikimédia France Board of Trustees by our General
> Assembly.
>
>
> — Pierre-Selim, 35, is a Product Manager and Data Scientist. Long-time
> wikimedian, he enjoys contributing with his pictures to Wikimedia Commons.
> He has already served on the board of Wikimédia France previously, in 2013
> and from 2015 to Spring 2017. His term runs until October 2019.
>
>
> — Hélène Masson, aka Edhral, is a 41-year-old Business Analyst. She has
> been a Wikimedian since 2006 and strives to explain how Wikipedia works to
> all her relations. Her term runs until October 2019.
>
>
>
> Three other members of the Board, who had been elected in September for
> this very short period, have been successfully reelected too.
>
>
> — Kvardek du, 22, has been contributing to Wikimedia projects for 7 years
> and organizes events like Art+Feminism editathons in Paris. Their PhD
> research focuses on operational management in transportation. Their term
> runs until October 2019.
>
>
> — Lucas Lévêque, 29, a librarian and a passionate wiktionarist, arrived in
> the association in 2014. He co-founded Lingua Libre and he registers
> regional languages for the Wiktionary. His term runs until October 2019.
>
>
> — Florence Raymond, 37, is an assistant curator, at the initiative of
> Wikimuseum Project since 2016. She works for a better place of common goods
> (photos and contents) in cultural structures. Her term runs until October
> 2017.
>
>
> We are now 10 members at the board, but there's work for all :)
>
>
> Nadine Le Lirzin
>
>
> *Board member*
>
> *Wikimédia France*
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Affiliates] Affiliations Committee: Call for Candidates

2017-12-07 Thread Isaac Olatunde
Hi Kirill and other AffCom members,

I believe about ten people or more applied for the position recently and
almost all of them are good candidate. Is there a reason why you can't
appoint some of the candidates? Are they still eligible to apply?

Regards,

Isaac.


 Why can't you appoint one or more of those people tha

On Dec 7, 2017 8:44 PM, "Kirill Lokshin"  wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> The Affiliations Committee – the committee responsible for guiding
> volunteers in establishing Wikimedia chapters, thematic organizations, and
> user groups – is looking for new members!
>
> The main role of the Affiliations Committee is to guide groups of
> volunteers that are interested in forming Wikimedia affiliates. We review
> applications from new groups, answer questions and provide advice about the
> different Wikimedia affiliation models and processes, review affiliate
> bylaws for compliance with requirements and best practices, and advise the
> Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees on issues connected to chapters,
> thematic organizations and Wikimedia user groups.
>
> The committee consists of twelve members, six of whom are selected every
> twelve months for staggered two-year terms. Those joining the committee
> during the current process will serve a two-year term ending in December
> 2019.
>
> *Key skills*
>
> Being a part of the Affiliations Committee requires communication with
> volunteers all over the world, negotiating skills, cultural sensitivity,
> and the ability to understand legal texts. We look for a healthy mix of
> different skill sets in our members, including the following key skills and
> experience:
>
> - Willingness to process applications through a set, perhaps bureaucratic
> process.
> - Readiness to participate in political discussions on the role and future
> of affiliates, models of affiliation, and similar topics.
> - Availability of up to 5 hours per week, and the time to participate in a
> monthly two-hour voice/video meeting.
> - International orientation.
> - Fluency in English.
> - Ability to work and communicate with other languages and cultures.
> - Strong understanding of the structure and work of affiliates and the
> Wikimedia Foundation.
> - Knowledge of different legal systems and experience in community
> building and organizing are a plus.
> - Skills in other languages are a major plus.
> - Experience with or in an active affiliate is a major plus.
> - Strong track record of effective collaboration (such as evidenced skills
> at facilitation, mediation, negotiation, and so forth) are a major plus.
> - Willingness to use one's real name in committee activities (including
> contacts with current and potential affiliates) when appropriate.
>
> We are looking for people who are excited by the challenge of empowering
> volunteers to get organized and form communities that further our mission
> around the world. In exchange, committee members selected will gain the
> experience of supporting their world-wide colleagues to develop their
> communities as well as personal development in guiding organizational
> development, facilitating affiliate partnerships, and professional
> communications.
>
> *Selection process*
>
> As a reflection of our commitment to openness, transparency, and bilateral
> engagement with the Wikimedia community, the 2017 member selection process
> will include a public review and comment period. All applications received
> by the committee will be posted on Meta at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wik
> i/Affiliations_Committee/Candidates/December_2017, and the community will
> be invited to provide comments and feedback about each candidate.
>
> At the end of the public comment period, the applications will be voted on
> by the members of the committee who are not seeking re-election, taking
> into account comments put forward by the committee's members, advisors,
> Wikimedia Foundation staff and board liaisons, and the community. A final
> decision will be made by mid-January 2018, with new members expected to
> join later that month.
>
> *How to apply*
>
> If you are interested in joining the committee, please post your
> application on the nomination page and send an email announcing your
> application to aff...@lists.wikimedia.org by 31 December 2017. Your
> application must include the following information:
>
> - Your full name and Wikimedia username
> - A statement describing your relevant experience, skills, and motivation
> for joining the committee.
> - Answers to the following three questions:
> (1) How do you think affiliates work best together to partner on
> effective projects and initiatives?
> (2) What do you see as the role of affiliates in the Wikimedia
> movement in the next three years?
> (3) What do you feel you will bring to the committee that makes
> you a uniquely qualified candidate?
>
> If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to contact me and/or the
> committee as a 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Appointment of Esra’a Al Shafei to Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees

2017-12-02 Thread Isaac Olatunde
Respecting the privacy of others is one of our core values as a movement.
Esra’a Al Shafei is not an anonymous person, AFAIK. If they are not willing
to share their photos or video or does not wish to be photographed, I don't
see any problem with that and I think we should respect their decision.

Regards,

Isaac

On Dec 2, 2017 5:31 AM, "Cristian Consonni"  wrote:

> On 01/12/2017 23:22, Michael Peel wrote:
> > Thank you, Esra’a, for volunteering!
>
> Welcome,Esra'a!
>
> > However, I’m very concerned by this:
> >
> > "P.S. Due to the nature of Esra’a’s work, sharing photos or videos of
> Esra’a may endanger her safety or the safety of others. To help ensure the
> privacy and safety of Esra’a and her colleagues, we are not sharing any
> photographs or videos of Esra'a. We ask that you please join us in
> supporting this important safety consideration.”
> >
> > This is security by obscurity (https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q133735) -
> which is at best a temporary measure that won’t last, particularly in a
> high-profile position like this. Aside from the potential media coverage,
> Wikimedia events are very well photographed by Wikimedians who want to
> illustrate a rather well-read encyclopaedia… This leads to an awkward
> situation where someone’s safety and Wikimedia’s openness are conflicting,
> which is not OK.
>
> Sorry, but I have to disagree, Mike.
>
> Openness - as generally understood in Wikimedia - does not conflict with
> respecting someone's privacy, much less so with not endangering their
> safety. I believe that respecting the privacy and anonymity of our
> editors (and readers, as well) is a value of Wikimedia.
>
> Furthermore, I feel that Wikimedians value very highly their privacy and
> anonimity, in fact, there are several Wikipedians with whom I have
> edited pages for years now, and I still have no idea of their real
> names, their age, their gender or where they live. All I know is their
> nicknames on the projects and it's perfectly fine like that. There are
> several rules that the communities have adopted to protect the privacy
> and anonymity of every user.
>
> Even at in-person events, there are usually ways to signal the fact that
> one does not want to be photographed or have photos or recordings of
> him/her, put online. You can also wear a badge with just your nickname
> and not your real name, so that's not new even for our live events.
>
> I agree with the idea that occupying a high-profile position and trying
> to limit one's own exposure are conflicting goals, but I am sure that
> this was very carefully.
>
> So, I understand that this may seem different from the usual, but,
> actually, it is not.
>
> Ciao,
>
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia movement under DMCA attack!

2017-11-16 Thread Isaac Olatunde
Hi Βικιπαιδιστής,

I am sorry to learn that you felt harassed by some users at Greek
Wikipedia. However, you wrote "*From what I understand Wikimedia foundation
is not really interested of helping women who are being harassed*". So they
are interested in helping men who are being harassed? I don't know the
logic behind that comment but it sounds like something that does not exist
anywhere. Allegations of harassment requires strong evidences and in cases
where insufficient evidences were provided, I doubt the WMF will take any
action against the alleged person. This fundamentally have nothing to do
with gender. I'll encourage you to forward any complaints and evidence of
harassment to WMF SuSa. Mailing lists like this is often not the best place
for discussing issues like this. You may want to follow Asaf's advise
above.

Regards,

Isaac

On Nov 13, 2017 1:29 PM, "Ανώνυμος Βικιπαιδιστής" <
anonymuswikiped...@gmail.com> wrote:

I' m sorry to hear that Portuguese Wikipedia has similar problems as Greek
Wikipedia. Being the victim of harassment from administrators of Greek
Wikipedia (they post my real sex, name and email and archived my personal
data for future use to threaten me and the wikipedians who help me, telling
me that my harassment won t stop just in wikipedia but and in other social
media as the had done in the past) which led me to stop editing even tho
I'm a 100wikidayer and 100wikicommonsdayer and participated in an
international conference here in Greece presenting the work that the
community have done in Wikipedia. I think that letting fellow wikipedians
know about this kind of problems is crucial for the improvement of
community health because it can start some actions to resolve such cyber
crimes. From what I understand Wikimedia foundation is not really
interested of helping women who are being harassed as long as the bullying
is not reported to the police and the bullies are useful in wikipedia
projects as for example hosting a cee meeting or wikimania in Greece. They
are even rewarded with trips and let them participate in projects such as
women in Red, which is actually really funny if you think about it. The
bullies who sent women away from wikipedia are getting grands for
contacting workshops to find women who would like to participate in
wikipedia. :P They present themselves as educators in Greece but really who
would you like persons like that teaching their kids?
There is always a standard answer from wmf when someone complains of being
harassed: they say that this person is bitterful and not talking with
courtesy. In my case SUSA even implied that me (the victim) should
contacted my bullies and ask them politely to stop harassing me and did
absolutely nothing to help me. You see I m only a volunteer and not a
professional wikimedian so I m not really important to them.
I really hope the issues in Portuguese Wikipedia will resolve quickly
because I know how stressful and sad these situations can be not only for
the people involved but for all the community.

Ανώνυμος Βικιπαιδιστής





On 06/11/2017 11:55 μμ, Asaf Bartov wrote:

> A message from your list moderators:
>
> This thread does not belong on this list.
>
> It is spillover of a long and bitter conflict in the Portuguese community,
> and this list's membership is not well situated to contribute to a solution
> through discussion on this list.  Those particularly interested and able
> can participate in relevant threads on the Portuguese Wikipedia.
>
> However, moving the mutual recriminations onto this list is escalation that
> can only upset people and exacerbate the conflict, and is not an effective
> way to seek help.
>
> As was mentioned, the matter involves allegations of harassment --
> investigated by the Support and Safety team in the Community Engagement
> department at WMF -- as well as legal action.  Both avenues would not
> benefit from partial and probably-biased context shared on this list.
>
> The parties in conflict should continue to seek a modus vivendi on the wiki
> they share, on-wiki, as well as through the channels they are already
> pursuing.  Smearing the other side on this list won't accomplish anything.
>
> Accordingly, *please stop posting on this thread*.  We have also placed the
> Brazilians involved in this conflict on temporary moderation, to prevent
> further escalation.
>
> (putting on my WMF hat for a moment -- As a further point of context, both
> sides have at one point requested WMF intervention in Brazil.  WMF has not
> yet announced whether and how it would intervene, though several
> alternatives have been discussed. Stay tuned.)
>
>   A.
>
> On Mon, Nov 6, 2017 at 5:47 PM Vi to  wrote:
>
> This is a very complex long-term "war" which, in my experience, never ends
>> in a "reconciliation".
>>
>> Also, honestly, I don't think how can this comply with wikiversity
>> mission.
>>
>> Vito
>>
>> <
>> https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email_source=
>> 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference 2018: Program themes, eligibility criteria and reporting deadlines

2017-10-23 Thread Isaac Olatunde
I share Lodewijk's concerns here. My understanding is that local chapters
have no control/authority over any language community. Unless we want
language communities to be under the control of local chapters or user
groups,  language communities should be allowed to choose their
representatives if they must be represented.

Regards,

Isaac.

On Oct 23, 2017 7:16 PM, "Lodewijk"  wrote:

That all depends on the goals that the conference sets itself, as always :)

As I understood it, the conference is intended for structured and organized
groups, rather than to be a representative forum for the whole movement. In
2017, I understood there to be mostly two events taking place in the same
location - with some overlap in program. In that sense, this was quite a
unique situation because of the strategic process.

The first question would be whether you accept each challenge as a goal. If
being representative of the whole movement becomes the goal, the structure
probably needs to be overhauled much more, and the default invitation for
all groups may have to be reconsidered. One representative from the
Japanese community wouldn't cut it, then (for example).

On the other side, I could also imagine a different goal, which would be to
fill certain gaps in input diversity from the participants. This could be
input from certain language communities, or from certain cultures where we
even lack readership. This would make more sense to me - as it would not
imply a representation as much. In part it would lead to a similar
consideration and outcome, but it would force you to also consider other
areas where input is lacking from. For example, allied movements or project
communities beyond Wikipedia (for example, the collective of developing
language communities in Africa or communities that are government-blocked -
of which I'm uncertain if they are covered by affiliates). This would also
send the message to the communities you ask to send a representative what
you expect of such participant (if that would indeed be your goal).

There could be many other goals of course, that you (plural) could have in
mind. I'm not sure which applies best. I would suggest not to deviate from
the official line that chapters don't represent language communities,
though. That is, unless this official line has changed.

Warmly,
Lodewijk

On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 10:56 AM, Cornelius Kibelka <
cornelius.kibe...@wikimedia.de> wrote:

> Hi Lodewijk, hi JP,
>
> Over the last years, we received the feedback that the Wikimedia
Conference
> would not be as (globally) representative as it could or should be. For
the
> Wikimedia Conference 2017, several “Community Leaders” were invited to the
> conference to be heard for the Movement Strategy process, but the
> selection/invitation process was not as clear as it could have been.
>
> To be more representative on a global scale and to have more different
> people from different regions present at the conference, we needed clear,
> transparent and non arbitrary criteria. However, there is no solution that
> covers every possible challenge. Therefore, we chose to give this approach
> – with clear criteria – at least a try for the Wikimedia Conference 2018.
> Also, as we expect more changes in the Movement in the upcoming year, this
> approach is a try for 2018 only, as an overhaul of the whole concept of
the
> Wikimedia Conference will be needed anyway.
>
> Additionally, I want to highlight this, because this was criticized in the
> past as well, all regularly eligible affiliates may send at least two
> representatives.
>
> I’m aware that this approach implies challenges, though. I’m happy to
> receive suggestions on how to come up with equally clear and transparent
> criteria.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Cornelius
>
>
> On 23 October 2017 at 19:37, Jean-Philippe Béland 
> wrote:
>
> > I share the questions of Lodewijk
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 23, 2017, 19:22 Cornelius Kibelka, <
> > cornelius.kibe...@wikimedia.de> wrote:
> >
> > > Of course, I meant:
> > >
> > > "The registration process will start on November 24, *2017* and will
> end
> > > sharply (no exceptions), on January 15, 2018."
> > >
> > > Thank you
> > > Cornelius
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > Cornelius Kibelka
> > >
> > > Program and Engagement Coordinator (PEC)
> > > for the Wikimedia Conference
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Am 23.10.2017 18:04 schrieb "Cornelius Kibelka" <
> > > cornelius.kibe...@wikimedia.de>:
> > >
> > > > Dear Wikimedians, dear representatives of Wikimedia affiliates,
> > > >
> > > > A few weeks ago, we announced that the next Wikimedia Conference
will
> > > take
> > > > place from April 20 to 22, 2018 at the Mercure Hotel in
> Berlin-Neukölln
> > > > (same location as in 2017). This email contains information about
the
> > > > program themes and the Eligibility Criteria for invited affiliates
> > > > including the relevant reporting deadlines.
> > > >
> > > > == Program Themes ==
> > > >
> > 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikitribune!

2017-10-22 Thread Isaac Olatunde
Fae, Wikitribune is not a Wikimedia project but a project owned by one of
 the Foundation's trustee, Jimbo. Thus, any question about Wikitribune
should be sent to Jimbo. I don't just see the need for this thread if there
is a possibility to ask Jimbo personally.

Regards,

Isaac.



On Oct 21, 2017 3:48 PM, "Fæ" <fae...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 21 October 2017 at 13:05, Isaac Olatunde <reachout2is...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Hi Fae,
> >
> > Is there a possibility for you to contact Jimbo or any Wikitribune staff
> > member about this? I don't just think a thread here on what has happened
> to
> > Wikitribune serves any useful purpose.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Isaac.
> >
> > On Oct 21, 2017 12:45 PM, "Fæ" <fae...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On 25 April 2017 at 22:59, Jimmy Wales <jimmywa...@wikia-inc.com>
> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Today I announced a new initiative, outside of my Wikimedia
> activities,
> >> > to combat fake news. It is important to me that I share directly with
> >> > all of you information about this new initiative early on.
> >> >
> >> > The new project  will use a wiki-style setup and experiment with
> >> > bringing together professional journalists and community contributors
> to
> >> > produce fact-checked, global news stories.  At launch, we'll be using
> a
> >> > hacked version of wordpress and we'll be evaluating whether that's the
> >> > right tool moving forward.  Wordpress has a lot to
> >> > commend it (free software, mature platform, used by lots of newsrooms,
> >> > active developer ecosystem) but also has some philosophy that's quite
> >> > "top down" in a way.
> >> > (Not many people would think in a wiki way when setting up a
> newsroom!)
> >> >
> >> > This new initiative, Wikitribune, will be a learning experience - my
> >> > vision is one that I've had a hard time explaining... except to
> >> > Wikimedians who tend to immediately
> >> > get it.
> >> >
> >> > While I am launching this project independent from Wikipedia and the
> >> > Wikimedia Foundation, it is my plan that this new project will work
> >> > alongside Wikimedia in the free knowledge movement. For example, I
> hope
> >> > that the numerous Wikinews/Wikinoticias/Wikinotizie/etc. communities
> can
> >> > collaborate with the  Wikitribune community in way that allows both to
> >> > learn and benefit from each other. Additionally, Wikitribune will
> >> > utilize the same Creative Commons license (CC-BY) as other free
> content
> >> > projects in
> >> > the news space - so they can take the stories written by our
> >> > professional journalists and communities and make use of them.
> >> >
> >> > You can find out more information about Wikitribune at:
> >> > https://www.wikitribune.com
> >> >
> >> > Thank you for your time and I'm happy to answer questions!  (But I'm
> >> > quite swamped with everything at the moment so please forgive me if I
> >> > answer in bursts!)
> >> >
> >> > --Jimbo
> >>
> >> Would anyone like to give an update, with some verifiable sources, on
> >> what has happened to Wikitribune? Perhaps it will remain at an
> >> indefinite "venture capital stage" with no launch date, or maybe there
> >> been a decision to pull the plug?
> >>
> >> I have been hunting around for publications since the announcement on
> >> this list, and believe there has been none apart from a poorly judged
> >> "taster" article, based on an interview with Richard Curtis, which
> >> appeared intended to promote a forthcoming charity event aimed at
> >> media luvvies. The "taster" had a poor reception for its bias and
> >> errors.[1][2][3]
> >>
> >> In the light of how huge "fake news" has become this year, it is
> >> surprising that the team of journalists employed by Wikitribune for
> >> over six months (fack check please?) have missed out on the
> >> opportunity to be seen influencing press coverage of say, Trump,
> >> Brexit, Facebook ads or even planet Niburi by providing their own fact
> >> checks.
> >>
> >> Links:
> >> 1. Taster article:
> >> https://medium.com/wikitribune/wikitribune-taster-1-the-great-and-the-
> >> good-meet-to-

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikitribune!

2017-10-21 Thread Isaac Olatunde
Hi Fae,

Is there a possibility for you to contact Jimbo or any Wikitribune staff
member about this? I don't just think a thread here on what has happened to
Wikitribune serves any useful purpose.

Regards,

Isaac.

On Oct 21, 2017 12:45 PM, "Fæ"  wrote:

> On 25 April 2017 at 22:59, Jimmy Wales  wrote:
> >
> > Today I announced a new initiative, outside of my Wikimedia activities,
> > to combat fake news. It is important to me that I share directly with
> > all of you information about this new initiative early on.
> >
> > The new project  will use a wiki-style setup and experiment with
> > bringing together professional journalists and community contributors to
> > produce fact-checked, global news stories.  At launch, we'll be using a
> > hacked version of wordpress and we'll be evaluating whether that's the
> > right tool moving forward.  Wordpress has a lot to
> > commend it (free software, mature platform, used by lots of newsrooms,
> > active developer ecosystem) but also has some philosophy that's quite
> > "top down" in a way.
> > (Not many people would think in a wiki way when setting up a newsroom!)
> >
> > This new initiative, Wikitribune, will be a learning experience - my
> > vision is one that I've had a hard time explaining... except to
> > Wikimedians who tend to immediately
> > get it.
> >
> > While I am launching this project independent from Wikipedia and the
> > Wikimedia Foundation, it is my plan that this new project will work
> > alongside Wikimedia in the free knowledge movement. For example, I hope
> > that the numerous Wikinews/Wikinoticias/Wikinotizie/etc. communities can
> > collaborate with the  Wikitribune community in way that allows both to
> > learn and benefit from each other. Additionally, Wikitribune will
> > utilize the same Creative Commons license (CC-BY) as other free content
> > projects in
> > the news space - so they can take the stories written by our
> > professional journalists and communities and make use of them.
> >
> > You can find out more information about Wikitribune at:
> > https://www.wikitribune.com
> >
> > Thank you for your time and I'm happy to answer questions!  (But I'm
> > quite swamped with everything at the moment so please forgive me if I
> > answer in bursts!)
> >
> > --Jimbo
>
> Would anyone like to give an update, with some verifiable sources, on
> what has happened to Wikitribune? Perhaps it will remain at an
> indefinite "venture capital stage" with no launch date, or maybe there
> been a decision to pull the plug?
>
> I have been hunting around for publications since the announcement on
> this list, and believe there has been none apart from a poorly judged
> "taster" article, based on an interview with Richard Curtis, which
> appeared intended to promote a forthcoming charity event aimed at
> media luvvies. The "taster" had a poor reception for its bias and
> errors.[1][2][3]
>
> In the light of how huge "fake news" has become this year, it is
> surprising that the team of journalists employed by Wikitribune for
> over six months (fack check please?) have missed out on the
> opportunity to be seen influencing press coverage of say, Trump,
> Brexit, Facebook ads or even planet Niburi by providing their own fact
> checks.
>
> Links:
> 1. Taster article:
> https://medium.com/wikitribune/wikitribune-taster-1-the-great-and-the-
> good-meet-to-promote-un-global-goals-729a22401bd3
> 2. Times response to the taster:
> https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/jimmy-wales-wikitribune-s-weak-debut-
> rattles-backers-lily-cole-5zs3q37gs
> 3. Related announcement of launch edition, Aug 2017:
> https://www.journalism.co.uk/news/wikitribune-announces-
> launch-editor-and-plans-to-publish-first-edition-this-year/s2/a708086/
>
> Thanks,
> Fae
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMFR financials, 1.2 mio budget, team of 15 FTE

2017-10-14 Thread Isaac Olatunde
Hi Rupert,

I am just curious. What are you trying to archive by posting this
information?

Thank you,

Isaac.

On Oct 14, 2017 12:23 PM, "rupert THURNER"  wrote:

> the linkedin page of emeric says that WMFR has 1.2 Mio Eur budget, 15 FTE
> employees. which year was this?
>
> https://www.linkedin.com/in/evallespi/
>
> DirectorCompany NameWikimédia FranceDates EmployedDec 2012 – Sep 2017
> Employment
> Duration4 yrs 10 mosLocationMontpellier | Paris
> 
>
> - June 2017 to present : Board of trustees member
> - May 2016 to may 2017 : Chairman / President
> - October 2014 to April 2016: Vice-chair
> - December 2012 to September 2014: Deputy treasurer
>
> Wikimedia France is a non-profit organization (based on "the Association
> act of 1901" in France) which promotes and supports 14 projects, the best
> known is Wikipedia. The 3 main missions are:
> - Increase contents on this projects (quality and quantity) ;
> - Facilitation of interested communities ;
> - Action on the environment (economic, legal, technical) to make it
> favorable to our movement.
>
> Budget: € 1,200,000
> Team (Full Time Equivalent) : 15
>
> Main skills: strategy, volunteers & staff management, dyarchical
> governance, international relationships, financial and accounting analysis,
> internal control, human resources, labour law, press and media
> relationships, public policy, lobbying, internal and external
> communication.
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of Open Foundation West Africa

2017-10-14 Thread Isaac Olatunde
Good news. Congratulations!!

Regards,


Isaac

On Oct 14, 2017 12:24 PM, "shola ishola"  wrote:

> Congratulations to the team!!!
>
> This is long overdue.
>
> Best Regards
> Olushola
>
>
>
> Olaniyan Ishola Olushola|MD, Data Access Systems
> Ltd|Treasurer,FOSSFA|Skype:ozo734
> Tweeter:@oluwanishola73|www.facebook.com/olaniyan.shola|Alt email :
> treas...@fossfa.net|Team Leader Wikimedia Community User Group, Nigeria
> (WCUGN)|
> Phone: 2348154876844;2348167352512
>
>
> 
> On Sat, 10/14/17, Nurunnaby Hasive  wrote:
>
>  Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of Open Foundation West Africa
>  To: "Wikimedia Mailing List" 
>  Cc: "Wikimedia Movement Affiliates discussion list"
> 
>  Date: Saturday, October 14, 2017, 10:31 AM
>
>  Great! Congratulations Open
>  Foundation West Africa!
>
>
>  Hasive
>  WMBD
>
>  On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 5:09 AM, Kirill Lokshin
>  
>  wrote:
>
>  > Hi
>  everyone!
>  >
>  > I'm
>  very happy to announce that the Affiliations Committee has
>  recognized
>  > Open Foundation West Africa
>  [1] as a Wikimedia User Group. The group aims
>  > to extend the reach of Wikimedia movement
>  activities in West Africa through
>  > open
>  education programs, digitizing open resources, preserving
>  cultural and
>  > heritage items for
>  educational purposes, and promoting content about the
>  > West African region.
>  >
>  > Please join me in
>  congratulating the members of this new user group!
>  >
>  > Regards,
>  > Kirill Lokshin
>  > Chair,
>  Affiliations Committee
>  >
>  > [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Open_Foundation_West_Africa
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] September 28: Strategy update - Final draft of movement direction and endorsement process (#25)

2017-10-01 Thread Isaac Olatunde
Thanks for the update, Katherine.

Regards,

Isaac

On Sep 30, 2017 9:29 PM, "Katherine Maher"  wrote:

Hi all,

Since my update last month, we have been collecting, processing, and
including your most recent input into the lastest version of the movement
strategic direction. This version is available on Meta-Wiki.[1]

We're so close! The direction will be finalized tomorrow, October 1.
Starting tomorrow, we will begin to invite individuals and groups to
endorse our movement's strategic direction. I want to share my greatest
thanks and appreciation for the work and contributions so many of you have
made throughout this first phase (Phase 1) of developing a shared strategic
direction.

In the coming weeks we will be preparing for Phase 2, which will involve
developing specific plans for how we achieve the direction we have built
together. I do not have many more details to share right now, but will of
course offer an update as they become available.

*Strategic direction*. Thank you to everyone who provided feedback on the
draft introduced at Wikimania. The version on Meta-Wiki is based on the
feedback you offered.

*Endorsements*. Once the strategic direction closes tomorrow,
organizations, groups, and individuals within the movement will be invited
to endorse the direction, in a show of support for the future we are
building together. We'll be sending an update next week on the process and
timeline.

*Concluding Phase 1*. Please join me in offering thanks to the volunteers,
staff, and contractors who came together to make this possible! As we
transition into Phase 2, some of these roles will be concluded and new ones
created in their place. We'll keep you updated.

*Wikimedia CEE Meeting 2017*. I was fortunate to join Wikimedians from
Central and Eastern Europe (CEE) last weekend at the sixth annual Wikimedia
CEE Meeting[2] in Warsaw, Poland. Nicole Ebber and Kaarel Vaidla led a
series of discussions on the direction, including what it means for CEE.[3]
Thank you our hosts, Wikimedia Polska, and to all of the attendees for such
a wonderful event!

*In other news.* I've heard from many people how much you appreciate these
updates as a means of keeping track about what is going on. I'm talking to
the Communications department about keeping them going once the strategic
planning process concludes, with a focus on more general updates. Keep the
feedback coming.

Since my last update, our planet has reminded us of its incredible and
often unforgiving strength. My thoughts, and those of many within the
Wikimedia Foundation, are with our Wikimedia family which have been
affected by the natural disasters of recent weeks. We have been in touch
with our affiliates in the areas impacted, and will offer any support we
can.

Finally, as our CFO Jaime mentioned last week,[3] the Foundation is in the
process of moving into our new office, in One Montgomery Tower. We invite
you to visit its new page on Meta-Wiki.[4]

We are at the halfway mark of this movement strategy process, and I am
incredibly proud of the work we have done together on the strategy. Thank
you, again, to everyone for your contributions to this process. We have
more work ahead but should be proud of what we have achieved already.

Ten cuidado (Spanish translation: “Be safe”),

Katherine

[1]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2017/Direction
[2]  https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_CEE_Meeting_2017
[3]
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:CEE_meeting_2017_%
E2%80%93_Movement_Strategy.pdf
[4]
https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2017-September/088654.html
[5]  https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_headquarters

--
Katherine Maher
Executive Director

*We're moving on October 1, 2017!  **Our new address:*

Wikimedia Foundation
1 Montgomery Street, Suite 1600
San Francisco, CA 94104

+1 (415) 839-6885 ext. 6635
+1 (415) 712 4873
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Diversity Award for the mentoring program of the 2017 Wikimedia Hackathon in Vienna

2017-09-30 Thread Isaac Olatunde
Congratulations to you all.

Greetings from Nigeria.

Regards,

Isaac

On Sep 30, 2017 12:01 PM, "Moheen Reeyad"  wrote:

> Congratulations!
>
> --
> Moheen
>
> On Sat, Sep 30, 2017 at 3:06 PM, Nurunnaby Hasive  wrote:
>
> > Congratulations!
> >
> >
> > Hasive
> > WMBD
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 8:13 PM, Tanweer Morshed  >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Congratulations to Wikimedia Austria!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thursday, September 28, 2017, Sandra Rientjes - Wikimedia Nederland
> <
> > > rient...@wikimedia.nl> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Congratulations!
> > > >
> > > > Sandra Rientjes
> > > > Directeur/Executive Director Wikimedia Nederland
> > > >
> > > > tel.(+31) (0)30 3200238
> > > > mob. (+31) (0)6 31786379
> > > >
> > > > www.wikimedia.nl
> > > >
> > > > *Postadres*: *
> > > > Bezoekadres:*
> > > > Postbus 167
> Mariaplaats
> > 3
> > > > 3500 AD  Utrecht Utrecht
> > > >
> > > > 2017-09-28 15:39 GMT+02:00 Claudia Garád  > > > >:
> > > >
> > > > > Hello everyone!
> > > > >
> > > > > We wanted to share some good news with you: Our international team
> > > around
> > > > > the Wikimedia Hackathon mentoring program won the first Austrian
> Open
> > > > > Source Award in the category "Diversity" [1].
> > > > >
> > > > > The Austrian Open Source Award was established this year in order
> to
> > > > raise
> > > > > awareness and visibility for our local Open Source Communities and
> > > their
> > > > > projects. The jury consisted of representatives from across the
> > various
> > > > > Open Communities in Austria (Open Knowledge, Linux, and Drupal
> among
> > > > > others) and honoured outstanding projects in the categories Open
> > Data,
> > > > Open
> > > > > Software, Open Hardware, and Diversity.
> > > > >
> > > > > The Jury particularly mentioned our comprehensive documentation
> > under a
> > > > > free license which enables other event organizers to apply our
> ideas
> > > and
> > > > > concepts and to build on them [2] [3].
> > > > > We are very happy about this positive signal for inclusive events,
> > > which
> > > > > make it easier for all newcomers to join our great communities and
> we
> > > > hope
> > > > > it encourages even more people to also make our other Wikimedia
> > events
> > > > more
> > > > > and more newcomer friendly. A special thanks goes to our awesome
> > > mentors
> > > > > who were the heart and soul of the mentoring program and the
> > Hackathon!
> > > > >
> > > > > For more information about what we learned around the mentoring
> > program
> > > > > you can also check out our post from the Wikimedia Blog [4].
> > > > >
> > > > > [1]: https://www.openminds.at/
> > > > > [2]:https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Hackathons/Handbook
> > > > > [3]:https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Hackathon_2017/
> > > > > Mentoring_Program
> > > > > [4]: https://blog.wikimedia.org/2017/05/31/vienna-hackathon-
> > learnings/
> > > > > --
> > > > > Claudia Garád
> > > > > Executive Director
> > > > >
> > > > > *Wikimedia Österreich*
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> > > > > 1070 Wien
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Defamation of Wikipedia in a Telugu (te) Motion Picture

2017-09-26 Thread Isaac Olatunde
I must agree with Asaf here. Fwiw, this isn't a defamatory and I think
legal action should be restricted to serious issues.

Regards,

Isaac.

On Sep 26, 2017 7:09 PM, "Asaf Bartov"  wrote:

> Hi, Krishna.
>
> First of all, this isn't "defamation", which is a precise legal term, that
> is best not bandied about too lightly.
>
> Secondly, Wikipedia is mentioned often in popular media these days, not
> always in a very factual manner.  It is hard to imagine such casual
> mentions have any significant impact on the Wikipedia brand.  It is
> precisely Wikipedia's ubiquity in Internet-connected people's lives that
> makes it possible to refer to it in such ways.
>
> Thirdly, legal action is always expensive and sometimes risky.  It follows
> that we need a very good reason to undertake the expense and (sometimes)
> risk.  This does not look like an important thing to spend our resources
> on.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Asaf
>
> On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 7:05 PM Krishna Chaitanya Velaga <
> kcvel...@wikimedia.in> wrote:
>
> > Greetings,
> >
> > Introducing myself, I am Krishna Chaitanya Velaga from Andhra Pradesh,
> > India. My user name is "Krishna Chaitanya Velaga", I've been actively
> > contributing to en Wikipedia and Commons since December 2014. I also form
> > the Executive Committee of Wikimedia Chapter (India). My mother tongue is
> > Telugu (te).
> >
> > A Telugu movie titled Paisa Vasool
> >  was released
> on 1
> > September 2017. In the movie, male lead boasts himself by referring to
> > Wikipedia. His statement in the movie is as follows: *"36 brawls, 24
> > murders, 36 stabbings, This is visible record in Wikipedia" *(The same
> may
> > be observed from the trailer of the movie, between 0:22 to 0:32 at
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVUZ-jG_i3c). As far I am concerned I
> feel
> > this as serious defamation of the brand, the community and the work we
> do.
> > It really degrades the reality and the efforts we put to produce
> > encyclopedic content to the readers.
> >
> > In this context, I request the community to take interest in their to
> voice
> > their opinions, and also discuss any legal action to be enforced.
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > [image: photo]
> > *Krishna Chaitanya Velaga*
> > Member | Executive Committee
> > 
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Odisha Government's Social media accounts are now under CC-BY 4.0

2017-09-24 Thread Isaac Olatunde
This is a great news. Congratulations to Odia Wikipedia community.

Regards,

Isaac

On Sep 19, 2017 4:36 PM, "Tito Dutta"  wrote:

> Awesome news. :)
>
>
> Thanks
> Tito Dutta
> Note: If I don't reply to your email in 2 days, please feel free to remind
> me over email or phone call.
>
> On 19 September 2017 at 21:00, James Heilman  wrote:
>
> > Amazing and exciting changes. Congrats :-)
> >
> > J
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 9:09 AM, Sailesh Patnaik <
> > sailesh.patnaik...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hello Everyone,
> > >
> > > I am glad to share a recent collaboration of Odia Wikipedia community
> > with
> > > the Government of Odisha.
> > >
> > > After releasing the content of 2017 Asian Athletics Championships (
> > > https://blog.wikimedia.org/2017/07/28/digest-asia-
> > athletics-championships/
> > > ) another initiative by the Government of Odisha to bridge the dearth
> of
> > > Information about Odisha on Wikipedia by releasing its social media
> > > accounts under CC-BY 4.0.
> > >
> > > Earlier this week, the community members met the Government officials
> > > regarding this, and after understanding the value of Open Content, it
> > took
> > > only 24hrs to release the social media channels under CC-BY 4.0
> license.
> > >
> > > As a pilot project, 8 social media accounts from Government of Odisha
> are
> > > under CC-BY 4.0,Now, the content is free for everyone to use, share,
> and
> > > build upon their work.
> > > https://blog.wikimedia.org/2017/09/18/odisha-social-
> media-free-license/
> > >
> > > The community is also planning to take the collaboration further and
> > > relicense some of the websites under CC-BY 4.0.
> > > --
> > > ---
> > > *Sailesh Patnaik*  "*ଶୈଳେଶ ପଟ୍ଟନାୟକ "*
> > > Community Advocate, Access To Knowledge Program
> > > Centre for Internet and Society
> > > Phone: +91-7537097770
> > > *LinkedIn* : https://www.linkedin.com/in/sailesh-patnaik-551a10b4
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] RFC on wikimedia-l posting limits

2017-08-24 Thread Isaac Olatunde
May I respectfully ask why Rogol is not on moderation already?

Regards,

Isaac.

On Aug 24, 2017 5:31 AM, "Craig Franklin"  wrote:

> Joining the pile-on here.  The focus on nitpicking semantics rather than
> substantive issues, passive-aggressive grandstanding ("May I suggest that
> you withdraw your original posting"), and the threat to tattletale on
> someone to their boss for expressing a perfectly reasonable perspective are
> exactly the sort of toxic conduct that is outside of the community's
> expectations and outside of what I believe the community wants to see on
> this list.
>
> Cheers,
> Craig
>
> On 24 August 2017 at 12:05, Robert Fernandez 
> wrote:
>
> > Agreed.  This sort of thinly veiled threat towards someone, whether the
> > Foundation is their employer or not, should be grounds for moderation or
> > banning.
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 4:14 PM, Dan Rosenthal 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hey Rogol:
> > >
> > > "Alternatively,
> > > perhaps you would prefer me to ask your line manager whether this is
> the
> > > sort of behaviour that she expects you to exhibit in a public forum."
> > >
> > > This is the kind of "unconstructive" behavior the list is talking
> about.
> > I
> > > fail to see how threatening to tattle to someone's manager, because
> they
> > > disagreed with you about the wording of your posts in public, is either
> > > constructive or the "sort of behavior" one would "expect you to exhibit
> > in
> > > a public forum." But then again, I'd venture to guess you knew that
> > > already.
> > >
> > > Cheers.
> > >
> > > Dan Rosenthal
> > >
> > > On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 12:31 PM, Samuel Klein 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Thoughtful, practical, good. Thank you.
> > > >
> > > > On Aug 22, 2017 9:03 PM, "John Mark Vandenberg" 
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi list members,
> > > >
> > > > The list admins (hereafter 'we', being Austin, Asaf, Shani and I,
> your
> > > > humble narrator) regularly receive complaints about the frequent
> > > > posters on this list, as well as about the unpleasant atmosphere some
> > > > posters (some of them frequent) create.
> > > >
> > > > It is natural that frequent posters will say specific things that
> more
> > > > frequently annoy other list members, but often the complaints are due
> > > > to the volume of messages rather than the content of the messages.
> > > >
> > > > We are floating some suggestions aimed specifically at reducing the
> > > > volume, hopefully motivating frequent posters to self-moderate more,
> > > > but these proposed limits are actually intending to increasing the
> > > > quality of the discourse without heavy subjective moderation.
> > > >
> > > > The first proposal impacts all posters to this list, and the last
> > > > three proposals are aimed at providing a more clear framework within
> > > > which criticism and whistle-blowing are permitted, but that critics
> > > > are prevented from drowning out other discussions. The bandwidth that
> > > > will be given to critics should be established in advance, reducing
> > > > need to use subjective moderation of the content when a limit to the
> > > > volume will often achieve the same result.
> > > > --
> > > >
> > > > Proposal #1: Monthly 'soft quota' reduced from 30 to 15
> > > >
> > > > The existing soft quota of 30 posts per person has practically never
> > > > been exceeded in the past year, and yet many list subscribers still
> > > > clearly feel that a few individuals overwhelm the list. This suggests
> > > > the current quota is too high.
> > > >
> > > > A review of the stats at
> > > > https://stats.wikimedia.org/mail-lists/wikimedia-l.html show very
> few
> > > > people go over 15 in a month, and quite often the reason for people
> > > > exceeding 15 per month is because they are replying to other list
> > > > members who have already exceeded 15 per month, and sometimes they
> are
> > > > repeatedly directly or indirectly asking the person to stop repeating
> > > > themselves to allow some space for other list members also have their
> > > > opinion heard.
> > > > --
> > > >
> > > > Proposal #2: Posts by globally banned people not permitted
> > > >
> > > > As WMF-banned people are already banned from mailing lists, this
> > > > proposal is to apply the same ‘global’ approach to any people who
> have
> > > > been globally banned by the community according to the
> > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Global_bans policy.
> > > >
> > > > This proposal does not prevent proxying, or canvassing, or “meat
> > > > puppetry” as defined by English Wikipedia policy.  The list admins
> > > > would prefer that globally banned people communicate their grievances
> > > > via established members of our community who can guide them, rather
> > > > than the list admins initially guiding these globally banned people
> on
> > > > how to revise their posts so they are suitable for 

[Wikimedia-l] What's making you happy this week? (Week of 16 August 2017)

2017-08-17 Thread Isaac Olatunde
Hi all,

I am happy this week because a Wikimedian from Africa, Felix Nartey was
named Wikipedian of the Year 2017 in Montreal.

What's making you happy this week?

Regards,

Isaac
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Sharing sad news about Bassel

2017-08-03 Thread Isaac Olatunde
Extremely sad news. May his soul continue to rest in perfect peace.

My condolence to the family.

Regards,

Isaac Olatunde.

On Aug 2, 2017 9:57 AM, "Richard Farmbrough" <rich...@farmbrough.co.uk>
wrote:

Very sad news  indeed.  Frustrating that we could not gain more social
media traction, when there is such nonsense that does.

On 2 Aug 2017 08:37, "kayode yussuf" <kayusyus...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> This is a very sad news.
>
> Bassel will continue to be an hero in our hearts and we will take solace
> in his activities in the Open movement.
>
> Kayode Yussuf
>
> > On Aug 2, 2017, at 00:19, David Gerard <dger...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On 2 August 2017 at 00:00, Katherine Maher <kma...@wikimedia.org>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> at his article [2], and at https://freebassel.org.
> >
> >
> > This is giving an SSL error ...
> >
> >
> > - d.
> >
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimediauk-l] Please welcome new chair for Wikimedia UK

2017-07-18 Thread Isaac Olatunde
Congratulations to the newly elected members and many thanks to Michael
Maggs for his meritorious service.

Regards,

Isaac.

On Jul 15, 2017 7:44 PM, "Swapnil Karambelkar" 
wrote:

> Congratulations !!!
>
> On Jul 15, 2017 11:07 PM, "Chris Keating" 
> wrote:
>
> > Congratulations Josie! And delighted to see that Wikimedia UK has its
> > highest ever numbers of members and volunteers. :)
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Chris
> > (former Wikimedia UK chair from back deep in the mists of time)
> >
> > On Sat, Jul 15, 2017 at 6:34 PM, Michael Maggs 
> wrote:
> > > Dear friends
> > >
> > > At today's AGM, three trustees (Doug Taylor, Nick Poole and me) were
> > > re-elected to the board.
> > >
> > > I have today retired as chair, and the role has been taken by my
> > colleague
> > > Josie Fraser. I'll be remaining on the board as an ordinary board
> member
> > to
> > > support Josie until my new term expires in two years time.
> > >
> > > Our board lineup is now:
> > >
> > > Josie Fraser - Chair
> > > Carol Campbell - Vice-chair
> > > Greyham Dawes - Treasurer
> > > Kate West  - HR trustee
> > > Nancy Bell - Trustee
> > > Lorna Campbell  - Trustee
> > > Jordan Landes  - Trustee
> > > Nick Poole - Trustee
> > > Doug Taylor - Trustee
> > > Michael Maggs - Trustee
> > >
> > >
> > > Please join me in welcoming Josie as our new Chair.
> > >
> > > Michael
> > >
> > >
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Affiliates] Recognition of the Odia Wikimedians User Group

2017-07-10 Thread Isaac Olatunde
Congratulations to the founding members.

Regards
Isaac.

On Jul 7, 2017 3:33 PM, "Kirill Lokshin"  wrote:

Hi everyone!

I'm very happy to announce that the Affiliations Committee has recognized
the Odia Wikimedians User Group [1] as a Wikimedia User Group. The group
aims to bring together contributors to Odia-language Wikimedia projects, as
well as individuals who contribute to other Wikimedia projects on topics
related to the Odia language, the Odia people, and the Indian state of
Odisha.

Please join me in congratulating the members of this new user group!

Regards,
Kirill Lokshin
Chair, Affiliations Committee

[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Odia_Wikimedians_User_Group

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