Google has been offering reverse image search as part of their vision API:
The pricing is $3.50 per 1,000 queries for up to 5,000,000 queries per month:
Above that quantity "Contact Google for more
Okay, let's see how these go:
> I think what you really mean is that you want (1) for yourself as
> opposed to the movement in general to be personally involved in
> the decision-making process,
I would be happy if the Foundation was doing anything to involve
the community in the process. We are constantly told to
Jennifer, I would like to comment on the search and requirement
criteria. In particular, I'd like to know whether the Foundation is
interested in reinforcing their privacy infrastructure, and whether
that is more or less important than being able to provide personally
identifiable information to
I withdraw any opinions and suggestions about the branding discussion,
and don't intend to continue participating in it. Instead, I would
like to have a more substantive discussion:
(1) I ask that the CTO search team please publish their search and
requirement criteria, including the CTO job
Is there a middle ground that would satisfy all the objections? E.g.,
"Wikipedias and media" as a brand identifier?
On Wed, Apr 10, 2019 at 12:25 PM Natacha Rault via Wikimedia-l
> Thank Andrew for summing up all the issues around this rebranding issue. I
> really dont believe it
If by "branding project" you mean replacing references to Wikimedia
with Wikipedia, that is fine with me.
On Tue, Apr 9, 2019 at 1:58 AM Elena Lappen wrote:
> Hi all,
> Thanks to those of you who have participated in the branding project
> community consultation
I would like to send some proposals, less than a kilobyte each, to
this email list, but just in case I would like to know whether anyone
seeing this would prefer that I not send them. Please let me know.
Thank you. Best regards, -Jim
I noticed just now that the Foundation is soliciting applications for a new CTO:
Can we please hire a CTO who would prefer to protect reader privacy
above the interests of any State or non-state actors, whether they
weekly list linked from the Community Portal "Help out" section
addresses the issue directly, thanks to ORES. It would be great if
that were adopted by the Foundation for Wikipedias other than English.
Also, the links from the numbers
WOW! How did you find a MOOC enthusiast who still likes class size
On Fri, Feb 1, 2019 at 9:18 AM Shlomi Fish wrote:
> On Thu, 31 Jan 2019 21:45:00 +0100
> María Sefidari wrote:
> > Dear all,
> > I am very happy
Are those objecting to discussion of specific choices of advocacy
areas of the Foundation aware that the Movement Strategy staff have
seated an Advocacy Working Group and begun discussions with it
focusing on "public policies and agendas to define areas where active
advocacy and political
wever, I believe this is a
> step too far for someone who has been asked in the past on multiple
> occasions to stay on topic. I am not sure that James needs to remain a
> contributor to this list.
> On Wed, 16 Jan 2019 at 11:56, James Salsman wrote:
h the survey measures. The
idea that the abundance of contributors would not increase under the
proposals is clearly not shared by most, and whether that means
contributors would therefore be "empowered" by them is subjective.
> On Tue, Jan 15, 2019, 8:21 PM James Salsman
> > H
Happy 18th birthday to Wikipedia!
What does it mean for the Wikimedia Foundation to empower
contributors? Please share your opinion of what the Wikimedia
Foundation's mission statement means when it describes empowering
people to collect and develop educational content:
Why not just officially support Wikipedia on IPFS, which has been
hosting the Turkish Wikipedia in Turkey, unlike the Foundation, for
almost two years now?
On Tue, Jan 8, 2019 at 3:10 PM
Why aren't the two mobile banners listed on
https://frdata.wikimedia.org/campaign-vs-amount.csv -- or am I just
not finding them?
Also, how do you feel about measuring the extent to which you would
have to run more single-line banners to match the donation volume of
For those of you who have not seen the mobile fundraising banner this
year, and thus are uncertain of what all the fuss is about, here is an
The fundraising message literally takes 4.5 screens that have to be
scrolled through to get to the article. I
I'm presently in Oakland, California at the Ranked Choice Voting
Summit 2018, where FairVote California's Director Jennifer Pae has
pointed out this excellent resource from the U.S. national Alliance
for Justice designed to answer questions about what kind of advocacy
nonprofit organizations can
Why does the https://wikimediafoundation.org/ blog not allow comments?
Is the software capable of allowing comments? If so, could someone
please turn that on?
Why are we not using a wiki for the main blog?
Seddon, thanks for addressing this.
What are your thoughts about measuring the extent to which you would
have to run a minimalist banner to achieve current goals, as per
Both of the "small" banners in the set of four
I would like to appeal
on the grounds that adding a different behavior to existing behavior
in order to try to measure which is better is an
On the contrary, Nathan, every single time I have asked them to hold
the campaigns open after the fundraising goal has been met (most if
not almost all of the past ten years) in order to, for example, fund
the Endowment or save more money before the Endowment existed, they
have refused to do so.
Does anyone have any objections to running fundraising experiments to
measure the cost of donations from https://ads.nextdoor.com and
https://ads.google.com similar to the recent Facebook ads experiment?
I predict NextDoor will offer the best value, and I'm guessing Google
will place a relatively
nother venue. It has little
> to nothing to do with this movement.
> On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 18:15, geni wrote:
> > On Thu, 1 Nov 2018 at 07:23, James Salsman wrote:
> > >
> > > Geni, it's the "Day of the Dead" now so I want to attempt to
g more common,
> > >> though the largest coins (e.g. BTC) are still resistant due to the size
> > >> of
> > >> their community.
> > >> https://www.coindesk.com/blockchains-feared-51-attack-now-becoming-regular/
> > >>
On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 7:21 AM James Salsman wrote:
> > Cryptocurrency. If your first thought isn't "how could a scammer
> > exploit this" you are doing it wrong.
> I've thought about that for several hours now, and I'm sure scammers
> From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf
> Of James Salsman
> Sent: Friday, October 5, 2018 7:17 PM
> To: Wikimedia Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] when is the last time a one-line fundraising
> banner was
Someone recently complained that referring to the equivalent of USD $3
as the cost of a cup of coffee was incorrect and substantially
offensive in Brazil. And then a few weeks later there was a discussion
about how donations are so much smaller in the developing world.
Coincidence? I don't think
The fundraising banner has gotten much bigger again:
I know it is bigger because it performs better relative to similar
somewhat smaller banners, but I have a quantitive question: How much
longer would the annual fundraiser need to take in order to raise the
Ah, I see, it's the Endowment Advisory Board member Peter Baldwin and
his wife Lisbet Rausing.
Was the donation from the individuals or the Arcadia Fund?
On Sat, Sep 29, 2018 at 4:38 PM James Salsman wrote:
What or who is "Arcadia," listed in the Endowment Benefactors as
having given more than $5 million?
On Sat, Sep 29, 2018 at 3:16 PM Thea Skaff wrote:
> Hi everyone,
> I am writing to share with you our fundraising report for fiscal year 2018
Does the restriction on "Disclosure of a person's identity or other
private information without their consent" forbid the Foundation from
sharing the geolocation and IP addresses of editors with researchers
under NDA or law enforcement officials claiming to have, e.g., an
On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 2:13 AM, Mario Gómez wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 4:56 AM, Yair Rand wrote:
>> The new website highlights "Advocacy" as one of the three areas that the
>> Foundation deals with, along with Research and
Chris Henner's proposal to limit future Wikimanias to the developing
world caught my interest:
I'd certainly support that as we all ponder whether the US is a
reasonable HQ anymore.
On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 12:26 PM,
I'm forwarding my Movement Strategy proposals for wider comment.
-- Forwarded message --
From: James Salsman
Date: Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 8:06 PM
Subject: Movement Strategy Working Group goal proposals some of which
overlap Thematic Areas
Can we move the Department of Health and Human Services' National
Guideline Clearinghouse to Wikisource? Do we have contacts in HHS to
"The Trump Administration is planning to eliminate a
Gerard and Alessandro,
The taxonomy question is very important. I touched on it in the
ethnicity categorization discussion:
I suggest that both the Enwiki Categories and Wikidata are most
deficient from a utilitarian
> On Sat, Jul 7, 2018 at 8:53 PM, James Salsman wrote:
>> The is between arbitrary border security theater and allowing the
>> Foundation to recruit and hire the best candidates. If the Foundation
>> was silent on the matter, there would be less of a chance of retai
P.S. The choice* is between
On Sat, Jul 7, 2018 at 12:53 PM, James Salsman wrote:
> The is between arbitrary border security theater and allowing the
> Foundation to recruit and hire the best candidates. If the Foundation
> was silent on the matter, there would be l
The is between arbitrary border security theater and allowing the
Foundation to recruit and hire the best candidates. If the Foundation
was silent on the matter, there would be less of a chance of retaining
Thank you for your reply on the other thread about the Executive
I want to ask about something you wrote:
>... Not taking a position is definitely not the same as
> taking a 'neutral' position or holding the middle ground.
Suppose for the sake of argument that there are two competing popular
opinions, one of which is more true than another. If the
Thanks for your reply. Can you say more about which kind of SMART you
prefer? According to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SMART_criteria the
definitions have drifted since original publication of the term,
including by authors who seem to have eclipsed the original's
popularity. The T =
> WMF APs consistently fail to meet my expectations
Pine do you have a list of specific flaws somewhere? You have good
advice, but I've lost track of much of it.
Did you participate in the AP talk page discussions? Did you try
editing it to meet your standards?
On Fri, Jun
map internationalization: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otAX58IZ6KA?t=8m40s
Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at:
to do. This has to do with core fundamental values our movement is
> built on. Not taking a position in political debates is a core requirement
> for us to remain acceptable as a source of information to all parties.
> On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 6:57 AM James Salsman wrote:
ant American and UK wikipedians to have
free health care, shorter work weeks, and a more equitable tax and
>> On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 4:58 PM, Dennis During wrote:
>> > I'd reconsider contributing content to WMF projects if WMF
> partisan on issues outside its basic remit.
> On Jun 15, 2018 16:11, "James Salsman" wrote:
> Regarding https://twitter.com/SuePGardner/status/998302792946102273
> I propose that the Executive Director resume regular periodic
> correspondence wi
; with email but only a finite amount of resources in this area with which to
> achieve it so it'll be something for to thinking about in the future.
> Many Thanks
> On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 9:11 PM James Salsman wrote:
>> Regarding https://twitter.com/
I propose that the Executive Director resume regular periodic
correspondence with donors on other ways they can support the
movement, beyond copyright and internet law advocacy that the
Foundation traditionally supports directly
Thanks for posting the minutes. Regarding "Jaime presented a proposed
revision to the Foundation investment policy that shifted to a model
more focused on cash preservation than on short-term equity," who is
Jamie and why is appreciation not considered a goal on equal footing
Are we planning to compare the costs and outcomes of donation appeals
using other internet advertisers?
I predict Nextdoor.com have a substantially lower cost per donation
than Facebook, but there is only one way to find out. I would say the
same for Google Adwords and Bing ads, in that
Oh, it's this discussion again. This is my favorite discussion.
Movement roles discussion is how we got the UK chapter recognized as a
charity capable of political lobbying. That was satisfying.
Maybe we can get the letter to donors back.
Are questions regarding electricity sourcing and usage better directed
to you or Bryan?
Do you have any objections to questions being asked directly of you,
and if not, do you intend to answer questions from the community?
To whom are questions about the user targeting selections
> categories and lists related to ethnicity, religious views, and sexual
> orientation are often created and/or filled by POV pushers who usually do
> not care much about sourcing. On top of this, the inclusion criteria,
> especially for categories, are often not defined
an essential characteristic of living people, relative to their
accomplishments and the events for which they are notable, I doubt
anyone is going to actually put in the effort.
On Mon, May 28, 2018 at 11:50 AM, James Salsman wrote:
>> categories and lists related to ethnicity, religious
Hi Nadine, thank you for this update.
Does the French Chapter have a position on replacing bitcoin mining
with foldingcoin (http://foldingcoin.net)? I hope that all Wikimedians
will oppose the wasteful consumption of electricity when useful
On Mon, May 28,
> I am open to more input, and more exchange of views.
My view is that the Foundation was suddenly (but not without warning)
made legally responsible for its own content after Trump made hosting
providers responsible for facilitating online prostitution
advertising, at pretty much the same time
On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 4:48 PM, David Cuenca Tudela <dacu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 9:16 PM, James Salsman <jsals...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Paid professionals work alongside volunteers in fire departments and
>> hospitals throughout the world.
Nathan, the Enwiki organic category system is not very good. For
example, there are no consistent ontological constraints placed on the
entire ontological tree (which should not be surprising because the
Library of Congress Card Number system, the Dewey decimal system, the
SIC ontology, and even
>... about the classical employer-employee relationship, I am totally
> against it. The reason is that there is so much effort wasted tracking
> and keeping people accountable
Priyanka Mandikal implemented a way to keep paid editors accountable
using reputation tracking two years ago:
The English Wikipedia has finally returned to economics topics:
-- Forwarded message --
From: Weeklypedia Digest
Date: Fri, May 18, 2018 at 4:20 AM
Subject: Weeklypedia English #218
Issue 218, May 18, 2018 (English Wikipedia edition)
> On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 11:22 AM, James Salsman <jsals...@gmail.com>
> > To follow up on this, Katherine, would you please state the relative risk
> > to politically controversial editors of using CPUs w
Are there a corresponding subpoena and national security letter burden
differences in choosing open source hardware without backdoor coprocessors?
Thank you for considering these questions.
On Mon, May 14, 2018 at 12:28 PM, James Salsman <jsals...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On the origi
On the original topic of technology advocacy representation on the Board,
an we please get someone from the open source hardware community and Legal
to tell us how much we could save in subpoena, hardware, and overhead costs
by avoiding backdoors? Has anyone on the Board ever championed open
> On Tue, May 8, 2018 at 1:44 PM, James Salsman <jsals...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks you again,
> On 4 May 2018 at 22:54, James Salsman <jsals...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi Rupika,
>> Here are the artists who did the Accuracy Review fundraising video:
> What's making you happy this week? You are welcome to comment in any
Les lecteurs du Wikipédia français ont 75% plus de chances de faire un
don que les lecteurs du Wikipedia anglais.
On Mon, Apr 16,
The more I survey different language wikipedias, the more I am
convinced an effort at the chapters level is needed to address this
It occurred to me that this Max Roser video might help:
A Selfish Argument for
Here are the artists who did the Accuracy Review fundraising video:
Animator: Steve Lewis, hello at SteveLew dot is.
Voiceover: Bryan Pike http://www.bryanpike.com/voicework.html
Does your answer at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vMFUaEeH3w=33m
pertain to these specific links about IPFS?
Are there any reasons the Foundation or community volunteers shouldn't
>> It can be interesting to use blockchain technology in our movement for
>> transparency purposes.
> Not really. At best you end up with a less efficient version of a
> downloadable database
Less efficient unless a government authority is attempting to censor.
After advocating all this
Anthony, it is not off topic at all, and some of the related Annual
Plan effects are very troubling in their present manifestation.
Please see: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Topic:Ubi1v8gwsq09bzjp
On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 6:23 AM, Anthony Cole wrote:
> This is off-topic (I
I propose https://store.wikimedia.org/collections/accessories
branded with the Wikimedia logo.
Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at:
If we want to do fact checking, which we do whether Congress has
decided publishers are responsible for the content of their
publications or not, the way to automate it is shown at
On Sun, Apr 15, 2018 at 9:35
> Cryptocurrency. If your first thought isn't "how could a scammer
> exploit this" you are doing it wrong.
I've thought about that for several hours now, and I'm sure scammers
far prefer bitcoin. Folding@Home's lab director is a partner
Andreessen Horowitz, so he has certainly had no lack of
> Only works if most people aren't trying to scam you
What else works that way?
> you'd need to get Bitpay to accept FoldingCoin in this arrangement
On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 4:39 PM, David Gerard wrote:
> On 11 April
on should offer to
convert Bitcoin to FoldingCoin for those who wish to contribute
On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 3:24 PM, geni <geni...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 10 April 2018 at 22:45, James Salsman <jsals...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> The Foundation has be
The Foundation has been accepting BitCoin donations. Unfortunately,
BitCoin is very wasteful in terms of electricity, and is therefore a
I recommend that the Foundation immediately cease accepting BitCoin,
and require donors who wish to donate in cryptocurrency to convert to
Would you please comment on how these two techniques for creating new
articles affects the quality of ORES models?
I'm sure by now most everyone has heard of YouTube's new plan to link
questionable videos to YouTube articles:
which was probably a reaction to the recent coverage of the issues
with their recommendation engine,
https://disconnect.me works well for this with both AdBlock (which can
do the same thing by itself with its advanced options) and AdBlock
Plus (which can't, and is a completely different product.)
On Sat, Mar 17, 2018 at 1:24 AM, Liam Wyatt wrote:
> How insidious!
> On Wed, 7 Mar 2018, 16:22 James Salsman, <jsals...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I wanted to share this because it's pertinent to issues with large
>> companies using our information without complying with the license
I wanted to share this because it's pertinent to issues with large
companies using our information without complying with the license
One discussions I've had with both Erik Moeller
If the Foundation Endowment paid for translations of articles across
Wikipedias, it would still be like a Foundation Grant in terms of the
legal effect on the DMCA safe harbor provisions and the practical
effect on whether mistakes could bring the Foundation into disrepute.
Maybe the Foundation
Pine, why not ask your namesake?
On Sat, Mar 3, 2018 at 7:13 PM, Pine W wrote:
> On the subject of paid translation, I could imagine this being included in
> the scope of work for a
> Wikidata's Lexeme project is progressing slowly, but its direction is right.
> It will finally build a technical platform that is actually good for a
A wiki article is a very similar type to dictionary presentation of lexemes.
The best dictionaries also cover morphemes, e.g.,
> building an authoritative dictionary is considerably
> harder than building a (de facto) authoritative encyclopedia.
What reason is there to think that? My any measure of editor hours, or
the amount of money it would take to replicate the effort, or the
maintenance load going forward, I'm sure
n than teaching subjects of encyclopedia
On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 1:11 PM, Amir E. Aharoni
> 2018-02-27 21:23 GMT+02:00 James Salsman <jsals...@gmail.com>:
>> Languages are taught by authoritative dictionaries (after people, a
Languages are taught by authoritative dictionaries (after people, and
ahead of almost all other similar reference books.)
Wiktionary has multiple teaching functions whether we want it to or
Have you seen how
> wonder if creating dynamic articles from Wikidata is better
> than creating static articles
Not for years to decades.
On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 3:02 AM, John Erling Blad wrote:
> I wonder if creating dynamic
had a bias towards usually undeserved
fame. Luckily, the damage is merely memetic and can be repaired with
literature. But the schemers turn into fraud cases, so they get more
attention than they should relative to the larger, general problem.
On Wed, Feb 21, 2018 at 11:27 PM, Jam
>... make sure people are taking the work seriously and not
> simply using Google translate
People are likely to start with Google Translate whether they are
taking the translation seriously or not, so it would still help if we
could get Google to provide numeric per-word translation
I am happy about https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpmRWCE7F_I=30m30s
Aaron Halfaker describes optimized ways to refine backlog presentation.
But I am unhappy that his first slides are missing and I hope he will
post the whole deck.
Also I would love to see the Turkish Wikipedia in InterPlanetary
Here is a good example of instructional software to solve a systemic
How can we sustain progress towards resolution of the issues?
Also, does the date by which Titan is likely
xtract from our sites as CC0 or Fair Use.
> A few legal letters and maybe a court case a year should be easily affordable
> for the WMF and an excellent investment.
>> Message: 2
>> Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2018 00:12:43 +
Attribution is often considered impractical, but providing the source
date along with e.g. the article name can be used to derive the
attribution, so it should be required. It's not just a good idea to
require this information from content re-users like Amazon, Apple, and
Google, but doing so will
gt;> > organizations? But again, it seems you just used this statement as an
>> > opportunity to push a tangent.
>> > Please don't do that.
>> > Thanks,
>> > Lodewijk
>> > On Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at
> the WMF doesn't have the resources to prevent a
> state level actor from gaining access to its servers.
Do you think merely avoiding the most mass-produced and arguably
widest backdoor is a step in the right direction?
> Switching to little used, little supported and more expensive
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