Re: [Wikimedia-l] Editor retention (was Re: Big data benefits and limitations (relevance: WMF editor engagement, fundraising, and HR practices))

2013-01-21 Thread Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 10:03 AM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 21 January 2013 01:23, Kim Bruning k...@bruning.xs4all.nl wrote:
 On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 09:53:46AM +, Richard Farmbrough wrote:

 number of years ago the oligarchy destroyed hope (Esperanza) - now the

 Well,  Esperanza ended up ossified faster than the rest of wikipedia,
 so it had to be taken down.


 Esperanza was killed because it became
 problematic.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Esperanza

 Perhaps bits of the idea may be useful, but it was a bad
 implementation and is generally not missed.

It's a bit late to try to ressurect something that never lived... I
don't think there is a way
back from admitting that WMF should stay out of running anything else
than the servers,
and fund (in a fit of honesty) every effort at making forking
feasible... otherwise there is
no hope for them...


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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Aaron Swartz is dead

2013-01-13 Thread Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
The blog post was poignant.


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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Minutes of WMF Board: October 26-27, 2012, meeting

2012-12-10 Thread Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
Doing a quick scan of the minutes, I would be interested to know what
steps are planned to ameliorate the increased lack of transparency
that will be necessarily follow from an increased number of decisions
made without official resolution to record them?

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[Wikimedia-l] CleanIT; as usual, the most useful and comprehensively multifaceted examination is on Slashdot.

2012-09-25 Thread Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
http://slashdot.org/story/12/09/25/004252/plans-for-widespread-monitoring-of-communication-in-europe-revealed

It isn't yet clear if this proposal is intended as a stalking horse
for a later, more sneakily composed scheme,
or whether they really have been smoking crack behind closed doors in
wainscot-panelled rooms... IE, could
just be trolling by the EU.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] (semi-OT) Open access catastrophic for Elsevier

2012-09-24 Thread Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 3:33 AM, Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com wrote:
 It's funny, most organizations point to our community as am example of how
 to manage such things with volunteers.

 Another example: law reviews offer an excellent and widely reproduced model
 where the most esteemed publications are run by students.

Another amusing example is The Economist current affairs magazine. I hear their
contributors don't, as a rule, run to grey whiskers and tweed jackets.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Russian Wikipedia goes on strike

2012-09-19 Thread Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 3:33 PM, Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net wrote:
 On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 1:47 PM, Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net
 wrote:
 But that is not all. The most important issue is extremism. According
 to
 the bill, the materials, that are banned for distribution in Russia
 should be included to the register of banned information on the ground
 of
 the court decision, banning the distribution of that information in
 Russia. We already have such court decisions and a list of extremist
 materials, distribution of which is prohibited in Russia. That list
 contains some really nasty materials, as e.g. nazi propaganda, but
 also
 Islamic texts (including those of famous non-terrorist Islamic authors
 e.g. Said Nursî), Saentologist, Jehova’s witnesses , Falun Gong,
 letters and materials of opposition in Russia, works of contemporary
 art,
 etc.

 letters and materials of opposition in Russia That is the issue. It's
 Russian McCarthyism.

 AFAIK, Huxley's Brave New World, as well, because it promotes drug
 usage.


 There are limits. For example, I am aware of a technique for tattooing
 the whites of your eyes. I'm afraid I have self-censored with respect to
 that matter; there is enough evil nonsense already; idiots can put their
 tongues on frozen lamp posts...

 Fred


Well, the new law is now being considered for application to block
YouTube in Russia. Make of that, what you will.

http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-19648808


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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Open Knowledge Fest this upcoming week

2012-09-15 Thread Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 9:03 PM, Leinonen Teemu teemu.leino...@aalto.fi wrote:
 Hi Sarah et all,

 I am in Helsinki and also partly organizing the Open Knowledge Festival 
 (http://okfestival.org/) - the main venue is my Department of the Aalto 
 University. I'll come to say hi to you.

 If you (or anyone else from the Wikimedia community coming over to Helsinki 
 for the OK Fest) need any help, advice etc. do not hesitate to contact me.

 Welcome to Helsinki!

 - Teemu

 On 15.9.2012, at 19.17, Sarah Stierch wrote:
 I'll be in Helsinki, Finland this upcoming week for Open Knowledge Fest, 
 where I'm co-planning the gender and diversity sessions and also 
 participating in some other aspects of the conference. I know this is super 
 last minute, but, if any Finnish Wikipedians (or Wikipedians living in 
 Helsinki) want to get a drink or are going to the conference, ping me off 
 list. Feel free to forward this message to anyone you know.


I am a nativeborn Helsinki-dweller. I don't have the funds to buy a
ticket to the events, and have limited material means to assist
visitors, but local knowledge is a strong suit. Any questions I can
help with, feel free to contact me by this gmail-account, or via
personal message on FaceBook. Also, if someone wants to visit the
secret awesomeness in Helsinki, on which ever theme, you could do
worse than have me as a tour guide; at least I would know who to
contact if doors need to be opened, even if what you are interested is
something I cannot get you to see myself.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who invoked principle of least surprise for the image filter?

2012-06-22 Thread Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
The core problem here is that the Board is not alive and well.
The Board of Trustees is dead in their shoes. What precisely
are they *Trustees* of?

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who invoked principle of least surprise for the image filter?

2012-06-15 Thread Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 11:40 PM, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 14 June 2012 16:19, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 14 June 2012 20:36, Andrew Gray andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk wrote:

  Least surprise is one way to try and get around this problem of not
  relying on the community's own judgement in all edge cases; I'm not
  sure it's the best one, but I'm not sure leaving it out is any better.


 The present usage (to mean you disagree with our editorial judgement
 therefore you must be a juvenile troll) is significantly worse.



 I'm not entirely certain that you've got the usage case correct, David.
 An example would be that one should not be surprised/astonished to see an
 image including nudity on the article [[World Naked Gardening Day]], but
 the same image would be surprising on the article [[Gardening]].

 The Commons parallel would be that an image depicting nude gardening would
 be appropriately categorized as [[Cat:Nude gardening]], but would be poorly
 categorized as [[Cat:Gardening]].  One expects to see a human and gardening
 but not nudity in the latter, and humans, gardening, *and* nudity in the
 former.

 Now, in fairness, we all know that trolling with images has been a regular
 occurrence on many projects for years, much of it very obviously trolling,
 but edge cases can be more difficult to determine.  Thus, the more neutral
 principle of least astonishment (would an average reader be surprised to
 see this image on this article?/in this category?) comes into play. I'd
 suggest that the principle of least astonishment is an effort to assume
 good faith.

 Risker


There is a serious issue here. least astonishment is very much
distinct from least offence. We don't guarantee the latter, and
never should.The former was hijacked by a silly board resolution, and
should be rescinded.


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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Update on the CISPA drafting process, and its significance to the Wikimedia movement.

2012-05-01 Thread Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 11:29 AM, Alec Meta alecm...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 8:37 AM, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
 cimonav...@gmail.com wrote:
 There have been drastic changes to the CISPA language, (and
 here drastic is an understatement).
 ...
 At this point I think *any* action by Wikimedia would be misinterpreted.
 There is no-longer any text there that would affect Wikimedia directly.

 I think we should take our cues from the American Library Association.
  Wikimedia is really an outcrop of the Public Library movement.   If
 the librarians oppose it, we are on solid ground opposing it to.
 Indeed, we can justify our opposition merely by pointing to the ALA's
 position--   Librarians are like the Military in the US-- everyone
 loves librarians.

 Going full black may not be justified, but releasing a statement of
 some kind (or a small banner of some kind) might be appropriate.

 Also, remember that we are a global organization.  If the US
 'legitimizes' universal cyber-surveillance, it could have deep
 ramifications for our readers editors living under authoritarian
 regimes.  Even if the US is a good steward of these new powers, non-US
 users are unlikely to be so lucky.

 The language is reportedly in flux.  I strongly suggest taking our
 cues from the ALA.   If they librarians oppose it, let us oppose it
 too.


I totally agree with all of the above, butI think we have a good opportunity
to frame the argument as one of Obama and the People against a corrupt
system on the Hill. Not Wikimedia as a nine-hundred pound gorilla against
the peoples duly elected representatives.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Updated Terms of Use

2012-05-01 Thread Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
Tell me what I am missing here. please. Do these new rules not
mean Chinese internet users are violating our terms of service,
if they evade Chinese state censorhip to view our content?

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Updated Terms of Use

2012-05-01 Thread Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 4:47 PM, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote:
 Richard, you removed some relevant language:

 Certain activities, whether legal or illegal, may be harmful to other
 users and violate our rules, and some activities may also subject you to
 liability. Therefore, for your own protection and for that of other users, 
 *you
 may not engage in such activities on our sites*. These activities include:
 [..] Using the services in a manner that is inconsistent with applicable
 law.


 I think that expecting the ToS to condone violations of laws that are in
 some way anti-freedom is unrealistic. It seems like it would be difficult
 to craft language to do that well.

 ~Nathan

Would you like an opportunity to phrase that language in a sense that does
not suggest Wikimedia is in support of laws that are anti-freedom?

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[Wikimedia-l] Update on the CISPA drafting process, and its significance to the Wikimedia movement.

2012-04-20 Thread Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
There have been drastic changes to the CISPA language, (and
here drastic is an understatement). Not only have they removed
the language that would have made Wikimedia look like right
prat -- hooray...ish -- but the emphasis on the agreement between
large scale traffic sites giving their userinformation over in a
quid pro quo fashion, has shifted towards language enabling
them to deputise (security clearances in an expedited fashion) small
time hacker collectives to conduct activities which might or might not
be illegal, as long as it is for the good of the country, and as long as
they can be relied to keep their mouths shut.

At this point I think *any* action by Wikimedia would be misinterpreted.
There is no-longer any text there that would affect Wikimedia directly.
There may be an argument that the bill as a whole is still detrimental
to the internet as a whole and to the United States economy, and by
that route to Wikimedia. But that is such an involved chain, that we
would certainly be accused of being political, if Wikimedia protested
in any shape or form, on those grounds.

Assuming the draft prevails of course. That is a gamble. I think the
backdoor option we have is to pressure Obama to Veto the bill. He
needs a win against Congress, and afte the SOPA affair this could
well be his, He certainly could activate all the people who phoned
in on the SOPA thing, if he wants to.

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[Wikimedia-l] Facebook goes turncoat on the squash internet freedom battle.

2012-04-16 Thread Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
First there were SOPA, PIPA, ACTA and OPEN. Now there is going to be
Yet Another Attempt
to enact draconian legislation through mislabeling the real purpose of
IP legislation by inserting
it as a rider to law supposedly intended to help in combatting
Cyber-terrorism: CISPA.

From the link below:

‎It's a little piece of Sopa [the Stop Online Piracy Act] wrapped up
in a bill that's
supposedly designed to facilitate detection of and defence against
cyber-security
threats. The language is so vague that an ISP could use it to monitor
communications of subscribers for potential infringement of
intellectual property.

In effect this law is directed against file-sharers, not Cyber terrorism.

http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-17730266




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