Re: [Wikimedia-l] Surveys using third party tools on Wikimedia projects

2021-02-22 Thread K. Peachey
On Tue, 23 Feb 2021, 7:18 am Valerio Bozzolan via Wikimedia-l, <
wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org> wrote:

> Hello everyone,
>
> Apologies for my TL;DR
>
> Interesting topic. I'm recently working on making ethical surveys more
> and more widespread, starting from here:
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Italia/LimeSurvey
>
> Every hand is welcome.
>
> Warm wishes!
>
> --
>
> [[User:Valerio Bozzan]]
>

Did WMIT do any sort of security review before deploying lime?

Security issues were found the previous two times wmf looked at from my
understanding and that was without doing a full security review process

Have any sort of privacy impact assessment (PIA) since surveys could
potentially collect personally identifiable data (PIDs)

>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF political activism, yet again

2020-04-22 Thread K. Peachey
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T250508

On Thu, 23 Apr 2020 at 09:53, Chris Gates via Wikimedia-l
 wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> It seems that they just gave a link to that website, which...eh...
> When I opened it, I heard one sentence of the stream before I stopped it
> and read the rest of the webpage: "and then we give thanks to spirit, for
> the air we breathe, for the earth..." After reading the rest of the
> webpage, I un-paused it, and am currently listening to a bit of propaganda
> promoting unions and more extensive labor laws.
>
> The linked website is explicitly political, explicitly  on the American
> left, and explicitly in favor of certain highly contentious American
> political proposals. I would like to hear the reasoning for why that link
> has been shown, and it seems to me simply unjustifiable. The WMF is the
> host of a series of community-built projects, not a political activism
> organization.
>
> Regards,
> Vermont
>
> On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 5:12 PM Ziko van Dijk  wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> > I can confirm that I see the same also here in the Netherlands. Which is
> > strange, there are no general elections here before 2021...
> > An explanation about this link would be interesting.
> > Kind regards
> > Ziko
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Am Mi., 22. Apr. 2020 um 22:50 Uhr schrieb Yair Rand  > >:
> >
> > > The WMF corporate site (wikimediafoundation.org) currently has a
> > > full-page ad with the text "We are watching Earth Day Live today. Will
> > > you?". This links to an external site with the text "Click here to sign
> > on
> > > to the US Youth Climate Strike Coalition Earth Day Demands - From
> > congress
> > > and the next president, we demand a People’s Bailout, a Green New Deal,
> > and
> > > Land Back for Indigenous Peoples", and prompting readers to "Pledge to
> > vote
> > > for our future" and to subscribe to "US Climate Strike".
> > >
> > > Everyone here already knows how unacceptable this is, and why, so I don't
> > > think this requires any further explanation. The WMF should immediately
> > > take this down, and make certain that this kind of thing can't happen
> > > again. They've failed yet again at preventing inappropriate
> > > political activism in WMF's communications, and must take serious action
> > to
> > > fix this constant stream of terrible failures.
> > >
> > > -- Yair Rand
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Snøhetta and Wikimedia

2020-01-17 Thread K. Peachey
Domain Registered on: 2020-01-02
Linked Wiki page is still getting edits:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Communications/Wikimedia_brands/2030_movement_brand_project=history

On Sat, 18 Jan 2020 at 09:36, Pine W  wrote:
>
> Umm.
>
> Looking at https://brandingwikipedia.org/, I wonder if this refers to WMF's
> ill-fated effort to rebrand Wikimedia as Wikipedia that I hope has been
> abandoned. I hope that WMF did not, without consulting the community or
> even having the courtesy to notify us, decide to launch another rebranding
> effort
>
> Pine
> ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine )
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 11:27 PM John Erling Blad  wrote:
>
> > Note that "Dagens næringsliv" printed the story Thursday, so they must
> > have had information about it before WMF left the meeting with
> > Snøhetta. This is no longer a breaking story.
> >
> > On Sat, Jan 18, 2020 at 12:04 AM John Erling Blad 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > This is out in several newspapers now.
> > >
> > > "Snøhetta shall create new visual profile for Wikipedia-owner" [1]
> > >
> > > A quick Google Translate dump
> > >
> > > The mission is the largest in the field of graphic design ever, writes
> > > Dagens Næringsliv.
> > >
> > > - For me personally, this is very big, but you see it in a larger
> > > perspective - Norway, Norwegian design and graphic design - then this
> > > is one of the largest international customers who have come to Norway
> > > and chosen a Norwegian design agency. So it's very big, says strategic
> > > advisor Sanda Zahirovic in the design department in Snøhetta to the
> > > newspaper.
> > >
> > > Eight companies were in the competition for the assignment. Creative
> > > director Heather Walls at Wikimedia will not go out with Dagens
> > > Næringsliv with what other companies were talking about, but says that
> > > Snøhetta was the obvious choice.
> > >
> > > Snow hood founder and partner Kjetil Trædal Thorsen cannot say how
> > > much the contract is worth, but emphasizes that the work is devoting a
> > > good deal of resources during the project period, which is half a
> > > year.
> > >
> > > [1]
> > https://www.aftenposten.no/kultur/i/mRd1pp/snoehetta-skal-skape-en-ny-visuell-profil-for-wikipedia-eier
> >
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Welcome messages at arwiki

2017-12-29 Thread K. Peachey
Have you asked the user how the finding the users?
Have you considered other steps than just jumping to mailing list?
Where are the complaints from the other users to show this is a long
running issue?

On 29 December 2017 at 19:20, John Erling Blad  wrote:
> Users on other projects are complaining about the welcome messages at
> arwiki. A bot at that project are welcoming people that has no activity at
> that project at all. The bot operator claims the activity is valid, but I
> can't see that this is a well-behaving bot at all.[1]
>
> I suspect the bot is welcoming every user it can find, but using user
> accounts from central login and not users that has local contributions at
> arwiki.
>
> Can someone shut down the bot until the user fix the spam problem.
>
> [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Meno25#Welcome_messages
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Advertizing Wikimania (youtube) livestreams on centralnotice

2017-08-19 Thread K. Peachey
I notice those youtube links didn't use the nocookie domain or display
warnings about external youtube links, example being the previous WP
Zero Petition 

On 18 August 2017 at 22:45, Lodewijk  wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Wikimania is well over, and now that everyone is slowly getting home, I'd
> like to touch on a hallway discussion that was going on during Wikimania.
> This was regarding the centralnotice banners advertizing a livestream of
> Katherine's and Christophe's presentation of the draft direction for the
> 2030 strategy.
>
> First a few quick facts:
> The banners were on Fri 11 Aug shown for 1,5 hour in 'emergency mode' on
> all English language projects (including Commons, meta) to all logged in,
> anonimous and mobile visitors. The campaigns can be found here
> ,
> here
> and
> here
> ,
> for reference. The text in the banner was "Where will Wikipedia and
> Wikimedia be in 2030? Find out LIVE from Montreal" with a link to a youtube
> page with a stream  .
>
> I was quite taken by surprise with this, and taken aback. Here we were, the
> Wikimedia community telling all these visitors of Wikipedia and other
> projects that we are so important, that we should have them watch a
> presentation of a first draft of a direction of a strategy that still needs
> to be worked out. Not only was the text in the banner a bit misleading (I
> didn't see much crystal bowl gazing - but rather a statement of where we
> would like to go - but soit, I can overlook that), but it feels especially
> pretentious to me. Maybe this is a cultural matter, and in other cultures
> this kind of bragging (which is what it feels like to me) is normal.
>
> I could have understood an advertizement of this and other sessions to our
> logged in community members - that would actually have been a nice way of
> engaging them in an expensive conference that we would like more online
> audience to be part of. But only this session, and then all visitors of
> Wikimedia projects? No, thanks.
>
> Totally separate of the message displayed and whether we want to show it to
> this kind of large audience, I was surprised that this link was pointing to
> Youtube. This goes against our policies on Centralnotice
> , stating:
> "Wikimedia Owned - Banners must link to Wikimedia controlled domains (owned
> either by Wikimedia Foundation, Wikimedia affiliates or Wikimedia
> Volunteers identified to the Wikimedia Foundation)." I guess there is a
> very remote interpretation possible that the channel is owned by the
> Wikimedia Foundation, and I did not see any indication that Youtube was
> running ads on that particular channel.
>
> I was unable to locate any community discussions or consultation about
> this. Could someone at the WMF share where this was discussed prior to the
> decision, and could they explain their reasoning? I'm not looking to blame
> anyone for this - shit happens - but I would like to see some discussion on
> what we want and dont want to do in this field, so that we can actually
> learn from this exercise. I was told in (very rapid and somewhat unwilling)
> hallway discussions that this was signed off by multiple layers of
> management at the WMF, so I assume some documented reasoning and
> consultation is available.
>
> Best,
> Lodewijk
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] (no subject)

2016-11-15 Thread K. Peachey
On 15 November 2016 at 18:36, John Mark Vandenberg  wrote:
> Rather than IRC or video, which both have significant problems for
> this type of open engagement, perhaps WMF could install a modern group
> chat system, like Zulip, or another Slack-like tool.
> ...snip...

There is conphrenece as part of our phabricator install, One example
is the team that triages and handles site requests which can be seen
here 

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wimedia on line?

2016-09-10 Thread K. Peachey
Hi Peter,

There is currently a report of a user experiencing similar issues in
our Phabricator instance at
.

If you could either post a tracert onto this email or into the
phabricator ticket would be of great assistance.

On 10 September 2016 at 15:20, Peter Southwood
 wrote:
> I have been unable to access Wikipedia, Wikivoyage or Meta since last night. 
> Maybe 8 to 10 hours ago. Are the servers on line? Other internet seems OK
> Cheers,
> Peter
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who runs the Wikimedia Shop ?

2016-03-21 Thread K. Peachey
On 21 March 2016 at 22:47, Marc A. Pelletier  wrote:
>
> The extra control is hypothetically nice, but in practice one-off services
> that are different from the rest of the infrastructure (as a shop would be,
> like the blog, OTRS, etc) tend to be *extremely* expensive and difficult to
> care for, and tend to be the very weakest points of the system (including
> privacy and security).
>
> Those are only limited by the choice of the foundation.

If they wanted someone with OTRS/wordpress/cisco ios/SmartTeam/etc skills,
they would hire appropriately so the operations team was equipped with the
staff and skills needed.

It's like running a shop without a retail manager, It could work, but would
work a lot better if it was staffed with people with the appropriate
skillsets.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] My posts going to spam

2016-02-29 Thread K. Peachey
If you are using gmail, Set a rule that *@lists.wikimedia.org never go to
the spam folder.

(If you are using  rule to label them, it can be done at the same time.)

On 1 March 2016 at 09:48, SarahSV  wrote:

> On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 3:10 PM, George Herbert 
> wrote:
>
> >
> > Just to confirm, all Jimmy's email in these threads were in my Gmail spam
> > folder when I looked.
> >
> > If you're using Gmail, go look at the spam folder and bring his messages
> > back in...
> >
> >
> That is why I asked Jimmy a question yesterday that he had already answered
> in another thread. I wasn't aware that he had been replying until I saw
> someone else answer one of his emails.
>
> So yes, everyone using gmail, check your spam folders.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Knight Foundation grant for search and discovery

2016-01-08 Thread K. Peachey
On 7 January 2016 at 22:45, Andreas Kolbe  wrote:

> ...
>
> I am also struck by the fact that the grant is really a very paltry one,
> compared to the resources the Foundation is investing in this. The
> MediaWiki page on Discovery[2] lists sixteen people working on this.
> $250,000 would hardly begin to cover their salaries.
>
> In fact, Risker said as long ago as May last year,[3]
> ...


I'm not sure what the standard is for grant applications is in the US, but
I know locally that is it is extremely rare that allow the funding to be
used to pay for salaries and the likes, Although the grant applications I
used to have common knowledge were designed to have a physical end goal as
per the agreement (example: Replace kitchen cabinets in a Scout den)
compared to what will be software changes.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Sick of the subject "(no subject)"

2015-12-04 Thread K. Peachey
I think that is a tad inappropriate, when it's been pointed out it's most
likely a bug in gmail causing it.

You can always create a filter in your email client of choosing if you
don't want to see what, the two(?) threads that are active atm.

On 4 December 2015 at 19:55, Richard Ames  wrote:

> If anybody posts another message  or reply with the subject "(no
> subject)"... they go on moderation for at least a week.
>
> Richard.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Sick of the subject "(no subject)"

2015-12-04 Thread K. Peachey
If a respondent changes the subject, It splits the thread off to yet
another thread (for those in a threaded client) which in my personal view
is even more disruptive.

Each to their own I guess.

On 4 December 2015 at 21:32, Richard Ames <rich...@ames.id.au> wrote:

> I was venting and I had had a drink or two.  I think any reasonable
> correspondent can change the subject line.
>
> So I was sort of serious,
>
> Richard.
>
> On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 9:51 PM, Austin Hair <adh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I won't speak for him, but I think Richard was venting more than
> > making a serious threat. Assuming this is indeed unintentional, nobody
> > has anything to worry about.
> >
> > Austin
> >
> > On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 11:12 AM, K. Peachey <p858sn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > I think that is a tad inappropriate, when it's been pointed out it's
> most
> > > likely a bug in gmail causing it.
> > >
> > > You can always create a filter in your email client of choosing if you
> > > don't want to see what, the two(?) threads that are active atm.
> > >
> > > On 4 December 2015 at 19:55, Richard Ames <rich...@ames.id.au> wrote:
> > >
> > >> If anybody posts another message  or reply with the subject "(no
> > >> subject)"... they go on moderation for at least a week.
> > >>
> > >> Richard.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fundraising banner (again)

2015-12-02 Thread K. Peachey
I would assume you are also going to provide some input some comment into
the discussion other than just dumping a pile of quotes in here?

On 3 December 2015 at 07:06, Lisa Gruwell  wrote:

> I thought this might be a good point in the conversation to share some of
> the comments we have received from donors over the past day and a half. I
> think they really appreciate all of your work:
>
>
> Wikipedia has provided an unfathomable outlet for the inexhaustible chorus
> of "why? why? why?" that has run through my brain since I was old enough to
> think. I also believe its a factor in why I am currently in the eligible
> Jeopardy! contestant pool. In short, thanks Wikipedia.
>
> Wikipedia helps me almost daily, I cannot count the number of times me and
> friends have been debating the answer to life, the universe and everything
> (42, in case you were wondering!) and Wikipedia has dispelled the
> discrepancies in one or more of our arguments. Thanks to wiki, we have been
> able to convince each other we were wrong, and educate on topics we have
> never considered. Wiki is very important, and for this I will continue to
> donate as long as I can afford to. The more the world has open access to
> information for free, the sooner mankind will get along. Wikipedia is
> making the world a better place one article at a time. Thank you.
>
> I've had a roadrunner and wild turkey with poults in my yard and I've used
> Wiki to obtain information about them.
>
> There was a time I used to get embarrassed due to lack of general
> knowledge. Wikipedia gave me confidence. Thank you.
>
> well, over time, using it became a reflex, like breathing but when i pause
> to think about it, it is one of the source of knowledge I use most and I am
> the better for it.
>
> It's one of a tiny number of fund raising calls that I respond to. The
> charter or quest of Wikipedia , I think is among the highest ideals that
> humans can aspire to.
>
> Wikipedia is the first point of call for any research i am performing,
> especially on a new subject. It has been a life-saver on more than one
> occasions
>
> Wikipedia is part of my information ecosystem. It's like a road map for new
> intellectual territory.
>
> There was (more than) one time when I needed to know if some dumb obscure
> TV actor from the 70s was still alive and Wikipedia was there for me. Plus
> all the other times when I just need a quick bit of info: size of a
> country's population, name of a president, details about a math function;
> it's endless.
>
> Helped me with my uni degree, gave me medical information on health
> problems, let me learn new things about animals that I like :D Helps me
> answer questions from my kid about the world that I want to give her, but
> don't know the answers to
>
> I think you're the only organisation that can fundraise that way and you
> deserve it.
>
> My older sister doesn't have a computer (she's 82), so we talk on the phone
> and I look up stuff for her. It's a nice way to spend time with her, and it
> brings us together
>
> As a journalist and travel writer, this online research is often my first
> port of call. For a quick scan of even just the most basic information
> about a topic, I used to have to walk down to the basement of the national
> television building I worked in to ask the archivist to dig out a series of
> reference books that applied to my topic. Sometimes the books were already
> in use by someone else, which meant I had to wait even longer or beg the
> person to share the book with me. Now, I just Google it and often end up on
> Wikipedia. While I always still double check everything I read on these
> pages and use other sources for my actual fact finding, it no longer takes
> hours or days to get started with my research
>
> I've lost many bets because of wikipedia. So because of you I have looked
> stupider than if you didn't exist
>
> Wikipedia is the first step in any student's research. When it comes to
> education, Wikipedia is the real MVP!
>
> As a student, Wikipedia is a goldmine. I love you guys.
>
> I use it for everything from government and politics to celebrities and tv
> shows to authors and books. There's a facebook group I'm a part of called
> "Cool Freaks' Wikipedia Club." People post weird, strange, interesting
> wikipedia pages they've found. Basically, wikipedia is awesome! (I'd really
> love there to be an accuracy scale though, since I usually end up
> researching stuff after I read the wikipedia page, just to make sure it's
> correct.)
>
> I'm an engineer. I was not the smartest nor the dumbest in uni. I was
> average and over the years I forget concepts/theories/formulae all the time
> and I use Wikipedia to give my memory the nudge it needs to get back on
> track. Thank you.
>
> It is my main source of information.
>
> Taking AP Physics in high school I would constantly get confused with all
> of the unites and what they actually measured. Joules, watts, 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fundraising banner (again)

2015-12-01 Thread K. Peachey
I might have missed it, but I can't see any attribution for the image… as I
doubt it will be a click through to the file page.

Which style guide was used for the creation of this ad?
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Advertising in Central notice?

2015-11-08 Thread K. Peachey
E:QuickSurvey is currently under development by the WMF for this.



On 8 November 2015 at 18:52, Steinsplitter Wiki  wrote:

> Some thoughts:
> Pete, Thanks for bringing this up here and taking action on meta. I was
> concerned seeing the link to a commercial company in the central notice
> banner.
>
> I am wondering why the wmf can't set up a own survey. For example using
> https://www.limesurvey.org/en/ (
> https://www.limesurvey.org/en/about-limesurvey/license)
>
> To protect users privacy third party services shouldn't be used,
> especially in central noticed.
>
> It would be worth knowing if the wmf needs to pay for that survey stuff.
>
> I am also wondering what's the benefit of this survey, but that's a other
> question...
>
> Best,
> :-)
>
> > Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2015 10:09:06 -0800
> > From: petefors...@gmail.com
> > To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
> > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Advertising in Central notice?
> >
> > This is under discussion on Meta Wiki, and I made some changes this
> > morning. Please be sure any significant comments are put on-wiki, where
> > Meta admins and community are more likely to see them.
> >
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meta:Requests_for_help_from_a_sysop_or_bureaucrat#Re:_Survey_powered_by_Qualtrics
> >
> > -Pete
> >
> > On Fri, Nov 6, 2015 at 8:02 AM, Patrick Earley 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Itzik,
> > >
> > > We placed that note as it is standard practice to let users know when a
> > > link will be taking them outside the Wikimedia projects.  We linked to
> the
> > > Qualtrics privacy statement, as we felt that users should have access
> to
> > > that if they wanted to read it.
> > >
> > > Petefosyth has made some changes to it, based on this discussion [1].
> It
> > > now reads "Survey data handled by a third party".
> > >
> > > Best,
> > >
> > >
> > > [1]
> > >
> > >
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meta:Requests_for_help_from_a_sysop_or_bureaucrat#Re:_Survey_powered_by_Qualtrics
> > >
> > > On Fri, Nov 6, 2015 at 5:28 AM, Mardetanha 
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > ​it was strange for me too, we never did such thing before​
> > > >
> > > > Mardetanha
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Nov 6, 2015 at 3:12 PM, Bence Damokos 
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > My first guess would be that the company is mentioned as a way to
> > > notify
> > > > > users that they will be sending data to an outside company if they
> > > click
> > > > on
> > > > > the link (but the text you quote is not that clear on the privacy
> > > aspect
> > > > > here).
> > > > >
> > > > > Best regards,
> > > > > Bence
> > > > >
> > > > > 2015-11-06 12:33 GMT+01:00 Itzik - Wikimedia Israel <
> > > > > it...@wikimedia.org.il>
> > > > > :
> > > > >
> > > > > > "We invite you to participate in a survey about online
> harassment on
> > > > > > Wikimedia projects.
> > > > > > *Survey powered by Qualtrics"*
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It's not the the first survey runs through the Qualtrics, but
> that's
> > > > the
> > > > > > first time I see credit to them. We most of the time, even in
> GLAM
> > > and
> > > > > > others partnerships trying to avoid as much as we can mentions
> > > > > > organizations names, as it can be consider to be advertising.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > But mention a company (that we even paid them), and linking to
> their
> > > > > > website? that's new and concern a bit. I'll be happy if someone
> > > related
> > > > > to
> > > > > > this decision can give more information about the idea behind it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thank you.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > *Regards,Itzik Edri*
> > > > > > Chairperson, Wikimedia Israel
> > > > > > +972-(0)-54-5878078 | http://www.wikimedia.org.il
> > > > > > Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely
> share in
> > > > the
> > > > > > sum of all knowledge. That's our commitment!
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wiki Towns

2015-04-30 Thread K. Peachey
I believe Wikimedia AU  did some work with this type of stuff…

On Friday, May 1, 2015, d...@bisharat.net wrote:

 What is the status of the Wiki Towns effort? I first heard of it at
 Wikimania 2012, but looking at the list of actual projects, it appears to
 have had limited appeal. Noting also that in a couple of cases there were
 controversies.

 I tracked down a Wikitown email list, but no reply to an inquiry there.

 TIA for any info,

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Request

2015-04-06 Thread K. Peachey
Just dont read the thread?

On Monday, 6 April 2015, Aleksey Bilogur aleksey.bilo...@gmail.com wrote:

 Is that not the function of the mailing list? I'm certainly learning a lot.
 I oppose such a move.
 On Apr 5, 2015 2:36 PM, Pete Forsyth petefors...@gmail.com
 javascript:; wrote:

  There has been a protracted thread in the last couple of days that seems
 to
  amount to an escalating ego battle among 2-3 participants. I could be
  wrong, but I don't think this has much interest beyond those 2-3
  individuals.
 
  I'd like to request that the participants or the list moderators take
 steps
  to move this discussion off list.
  Pete
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Gendergap-I] Re: Fundraising banners (again)

2014-12-06 Thread K. Peachey
The view at 3200x1800 http://i.imgur.com/IY28Tmp.png

On 6 December 2014 at 17:59, Ryan Kaldari rkald...@wikimedia.org wrote:

 Why would you need an IT team to track the A/B testing? 100% of the code
 for the banners and banner delivery is publicly accessible and there is a
 detailed automatically-generated log of all changes to fundraising banners
 and campaigns (https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralNoticeLogs).
 If you want anybody to believe your asinine conspiracy theories, you're
 going to need to point to some code to prove it.

 Kaldari

 On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 11:05 AM, Site Admin 1924@gmail.com wrote:

  Dear David
 
  This is yet another example of how Wikipedia is seriously broken
 
  Here is a screenshot of a deliberate full screen advt being thrust on
  the global south.
  http://i.imgur.com/2J0FgAP.jpg
 
  Our IT team has extensively engaged in tracking the A-B testing WMF is
  doing.
  Here are some raw findings
 
  1. WMF seems able to access Google's data base API to target logged-in
  Google
  users for their ads text content and initial banner size.
 
  2. Males get larger banners then females.
 
  3. Persons in UK and India get a large percentage of full screen ads.
  Something to do with
 
  4. Multiple viewed pages get these advts. In other words they don't
  stop / give up after you've clicked the X and said no.
 
  5. Logged in Wikipedian declared females {we had a tiny sample
  size on this} got advts no larger than 25% screen size.
 
  6. The more males refuse these advts by clicking the X,
  the larger the advt size on your next visit. In one case, an
  especially persistent no sayer, the banner width was 8x his
  actual screen width.
 
  HRA1924
 
  On 12/5/14, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
   Just used a not-logged-in browser for once. Literally the whole page
   was the ad. It was startlingly obnoxious. I'm sure you can get
   startling click-through rates with an ad that appears to completely
   replace the thing you actually went to the page for.
  
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fundraising banners (again)

2014-12-06 Thread K. Peachey
On 6 December 2014 at 20:47, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Whining about effective fundraising is just that.. Please help us with
 approaches that bring in the additional money to do even more in stead.
 Thanks,
   GerardM


Oh, I don't know, maybe have smaller ads which don't cover up whole screens
or over half (like in my case). We have seemed to do alright with smaller
[screen wise] ads in previous years, which we could more efftively target
rather then pushing people away.
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[Wikimedia-l] Superprotect user right, Comming to a wiki near you

2014-08-10 Thread K. Peachey
Lets all welcome the new overlord Erik.

Add a new protection level called superprotect
Assigned to nobody by default. Requested by Erik Möller for the purposes
of protecting pages such that sysop permissions are not sufficient to


edit them.
Change-Id: Idfa211257dbacc7623d42393257de1525ff01e9e
https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#q,Idfa211257dbacc7623d42393257de1525ff01e9e,n,z

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/153302/



Someone clearly can't take criticism of their projects well.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Unacceptable -- CheckUser abuse gone uninvestigated

2014-08-02 Thread K. Peachey
On 2 August 2014 17:18, rupert THURNER rupert.thur...@gmail.com wrote:

 ...

 i personally do not care about the russavia case in particular i must
 say. but i care about the (non-)care of persons having access to
 account data triggered by a bad policy. imo
 * checkuser usage must be requested traceable
 * checkuser usage must be done traceable
 * data retrieved via checkuser usage must not be given outside the
 persons authorized to have technical access right to this data anyway.


CheckUser usage is logged internally, Although the logs are not maintained
indefinitely due to possible privacy issues.

I believe from memory it's approximately three (3) months at the current
stage.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community RfCs about MediaViewer

2014-07-09 Thread K. Peachey
Has a bug request been filed?


On 10 July 2014 15:03, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote:

 This discussion has closed on English Wikipedia:
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Media_Viewer/June_2014_RfC

 Will WMF deactivate MediaViewer on English Wikipedia per community
 consensus?

 Also, as WMF probably knows, Commons is currently having a similar
 discussion:

 https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Requests_for_comment/Media_Viewer_software_feature

 Thanks,

 Pine
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Commons' frontpage probably shouldn't prominently feature a decontextualised stack of corpses.

2014-05-08 Thread K. Peachey
Have you discussed this on commons, or just trying to bypass them?

On Friday, May 9, 2014, Kevin Gorman kgor...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all -

 This is a slightly unusual email for me, in that I'm wearing more hats than
 I usually do. I'm writing as a community member, but also as someone
 currently employed by one of the best public universities in the world in a
 department that is, at least in decent part, aimed at ensuring that
 injustices of the past do not go forgotten.  This email represents my own
 opinions alone, mostly because I don't want to go through the process of
 getting approval for any sort of formal statement, and also don't view
 doing so as necessary, but it does highlight my views as someone actively
 employed by a major university, and not just as an editor.

 Today, Common's front page highlighted a video taken shortly after the
 liberation of Buchenwald, one of the largest concentration camps to operate
 on German soil during the second world war, where more than 50,000 people
 lost their lives. (Since Commons apparently uses UTC, it's already changed
 to a different piece of media.)  For reasons that baffle me a bit, the
 video screenshot displayed on Commons' frontpage is that of a stack of
 corpses, taken from a five minute long video (that is primarily not stacks
 of corpses.)  To make things worse: because Commons only supports open
 video formats, an overwhelming majority of people who look at the Commons
 frontpage in any one day are not using a browser that can view the actual
 video - so they would've only been able to see a photo of stacked up
 corpses, with no accompanying video (and no accompanying explanation if
 they didn't speak english or one of four other languages.)  The caption of
 the video does hyperlink to the English Wikipedia's article about
 Buchenwald, but displays only after the graphic image and video link.

 I want to be clear: I'm not objecting in any way whatsoever to the fact
 that the Wikimedia Commons contains a video of Buchenwald.  I would be
 disturbed if we /didn't/ have a video like this on Commons.  It is of great
 historical significance, and it's a video that absolutely needs to be on
 Commons.  In fact, it's a video that I think should probably have appeared
 on Commons frontpage sooner or later... just not like this.  The same video
 is played in multiple classes at UC Berkeley, after the context behind the
 video is given and people are warned about the nature of what they're about
 to see.  Even in that setting, I've pretty regularly seen people burst into
 tears upon watching the video that Commons links today.  Such video
 evidence of the atrocities committed by Hitler's regime plays an incredibly
 important role in understanding the past, but what differentiates an effort
 to understand the past and a shock site can pretty much be summed up as
 contextualisation. A video with explanation of its context and some degree
 of warning before a pile of corpses is displayed is a large part of the
 difference between a shock site and documenting history.  Common's front
 page today leans a lot more towards the shock site aspect than the
 documenting history one.

 This isn't the first time that Commons frontpage has featured content that,
 while often appropriate material to be hosted by Commons, has been framed
 in an inappropriate way likely to cause dismay, upset, or scandal to the
 average Wikimedia Commons viewer.  It flies in the face of the WMF-board
 endorsed principle of least astonishment - [1] - no one expects to click on
 Commons homepage to see a still image of a stack of corpses at Buchenwald.
  This is not the first time that Commons administrators and bureaucrats
 have drastically abrogated the principle of least astonishment, and the
 continued tendency of those in charge of Commons to ignore such a principle
 makes me hesitate to recommend the Wikimedia Commons to my students or my
 colleagues.  In fact - if there was an easy way to completely bypass
 Commons - at this point I would suggest to my students and colleagues that
 they do so. I don't want to (and given another option will not) recommend
 using Wikimedia Commons to professional edu or GLAM colleagues knowing that
 when they show up at it's front page they may happen upon bad anime porn or
 a completely uncontextualised stack of corpses. I can think of absolutely
 no legitimate reason why anyone thought it was a good idea to highlight a
 video of Buchenwald on Common's main page by using a freezeframe of a stack
 of corpses from a broader video.

 If we want to gain truly mainstream acceptance in the education and GLAM
 world (and thus greatly improve our acceptance among the general public as
 a side effect,) Commons cannot keep doing stuff like this.  I know that
 project content decisions are normally left up to the individual project,
 but as Commons is a project that by its nature effects all other projects,
 I don't think discussion of this issue should be 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] My choice for ED

2014-02-01 Thread K. Peachey
On 1 February 2014 18:29, ENWP Pine deyntest...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Chad, I wonder if Rory has been considered. (:

 Pine


Who can say no to the HR penguin? 
http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/File:Stuffed_penguin.JPG.

I wonder if She/He has been bestowed the privilege of a name?
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community consultation + Wikimedia Foundation Executive Director selection process

2014-01-30 Thread K. Peachey
On 30 January 2014 11:22, Steve Zhang cro0...@gmail.com wrote:

 Funnily enough the cost of doing so has been looked into:

 http://news.com.au/technology/lehigh-university-figure-out-how-much-it-costs-to-build-death-star/story-e6frfro0-1226275852491

 In short, $8,100,000,000,000,000 and would take about 800,000 years.
 Probably not a viable solution :)


Due to our focus on knowledge, The Library[1][2] might be a more preferable
option.

[1]. Silence in the Library 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silence_in_the_Library
[2]. Forest of the Dead https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forest_of_the_Dead
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] (no subject)

2013-12-30 Thread K. Peachey
Can't we please kept this to one thread were possible? This is now the
third I believe.

On Tuesday, December 31, 2013, James Salsman wrote:

  Neither of Calxeda's articles gives a figure for capital cost

 I think they went under the moment their first competitor charging typical
 markups (Mitac) started shipping. Get some GFX servers and some of these to
 do your own tests: http://www.mitac.com/Business/7-Star.html

  you can't just plug a fiber cable into an ethernet socket

 The RADXA Rock includes SPDIF, and it's open source. Spare fiber isn't more
 expensive than spare Ethernet, but it's far more resistant to
 eavesdropping. http://wiki.radxa.com/Rock/hardware_revision
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] The Old Wikipedia logo is still widely used - what can we do?

2013-12-20 Thread K. Peachey
Most news agencies don't just go to the web for their images due to
copyright reasons.

They will have a media collection system that they have the logo stored in.

So the best response would be for the Media Relations/Comms teams to
actually contact them and request they use the updated logo.


On 21 December 2013 07:02, Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.ilwrote:

 Hallo.

 The old version of the puzzle globe Wikipedia logo was retired in 2010.
 It had wrongly painted letters in several languages as well as some
 graphical imperfections. The current logo has correct letters and improved
 vector graphics quality.

 Despite the replacement having taken place almost four years ago, I still
 see the old logo in news stories about Wikipedia in many languages every
 few days. I find it very frustrating.

 One likely reason for this is that Google images search shows mostly images
 of the old logo when queried for wikipedia logo.

 Can we do anything about it? My SEO skills are about non-existent. A
 Facebook friend suggested changing the title of the Commons file
 File:Wikipedia-logo.png to File:Wikipedia-logo-v1.png and
 File:Wikipedia-logo-v2.svg to File:Wikipedia_logo.svg. This sounds
 reasonable, though it may have considerable technical implications.

 Is there anything else we can do?

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] First Wikimedia-related contributor Kickstarter?

2013-11-01 Thread K. Peachey
On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 8:34 AM, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote:

 Anyone know if this is the first Wikimedia-related Kickstarter campaign, or
 has it happened before? What do people think about someone raising ~$13k to
 contribute photos to Commons? How does that fit in the debate about paid
 editing? To me it has a very different feel than, say, Wiki-PR. But...


Depending on how that $13K is spent (eg: on better photography equipment)
WMAU does something similar for grants, have a look at
http://www.wikimedia.org.au//wiki/Proposal:Camera_equipment_program
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] How to force to enable Visual Editor

2013-10-15 Thread K. Peachey
On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 7:22 PM, Jon Davies jon.dav...@wikimedia.org.ukwrote:

 Thanks, but newbies shouldn't have to do all that - it should sit there as
 an option.


The same can be argued for the many other features that can be found in
your preferences.

No reason to see that as a downside, but a chance to cover that in the
intro training explaining that many features and additional options can be
found under your preferences and for example we will enable Visual Editor.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Use of YouTube videos in fundraising banners

2013-07-17 Thread K. Peachey
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 5:10 PM, Federico Leva (Nemo)
nemow...@gmail.com wrote:
 The fundraising team is very careful about making banners that the editors
 don't notice. Trying to check how the banners are doing is like playing hide
 and seek, and only a true masochist would do so given how invasive they are.
 It's better to try and forget they exist.

Yes, I will just forget about that big bright yellow/orangy banner
whenever I view wikipedia at the place I volunteer.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Snake on a magic towel... help needed transforming a shitty logo into something wonderful

2013-07-16 Thread K. Peachey
I've had enough with these snakes on my magic towel... .

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF unclaimed Google Docs

2013-07-13 Thread K. Peachey
Only if you bulk transfer action before you delete the account otherwise no.

And afaik (unless they changed it recently) no you can't list them all.

Its only of the many reasons some people dislike google apps.

On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 5:46 PM, Federico Leva (Nemo)
nemow...@gmail.com wrote:
 I was wondering, does WMF still have access to Google Docs left without
 owners, e.g. created by or shared with employees who left (with the
 wikimedia.org Google Apps account, which gets disabled immediately it
 seems)? This may be the same as all documents ever created under the domain
 https://docs.google.com/a/wikimedia.org/ , perhaps. Alternatively, does
 someone at WMF have access to a list of all documents created under said
 domain?
 I'm worried about the information loss in the long term. Everything should
 be archived, in a way or another, especially as it's produced with movement
 money.

 Nemo

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Staff Images

2013-07-13 Thread K. Peachey
The issue at the 26 odd email chain is that the staff member should be
the main focus of their staff photo? That doesn't seem unreasonable…

On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 9:44 AM, Lucas Teles salvadore...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Is that [1] the photo? I was expecting something worse per the opening of 
 this discussion. It seems to be fine for me (in a manly way of saying a photo 
 of another man is fine), expect for the removal of Brandon's fingers.
 --Teles


 [1] - https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/File:Brandon_Harris_courage.jpg

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] PRISM

2013-06-09 Thread K. Peachey
On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 2:30 PM, Anthony wikim...@inbox.org wrote:
 Maybe not priority-wise, but remember that the cooperation between
 Mediawiki developers and the CIA goes back several years at the least.


Please feel free to elaborate, Just because they use MediaWiki doesn't
mean the developers are cooperating with them.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage logo

2013-06-01 Thread K. Peachey
On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 12:22 AM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote:
 I would think some of these issues would be of concern to you. This isn't
 about asking anyone to play chicken. It's about ensuring that communities
 are free to choose their own identity.


Change it to a blank/transparent square for the logo at the current
time, Then let WV take as long as they want to choose a new logo?

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Simple English hits 100k this week

2013-05-30 Thread K. Peachey
On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 9:10 PM, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote:
 On 30 May 2013 03:36, Sarah Stierch sarah.stie...@gmail.com wrote:

 Simple English is a Wikipedia that is for children and adults learning how
 to speak English.

 And for people with a learning disability.

Ahem…

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia Zero in Google search result

2013-05-27 Thread K. Peachey
Can you please file this in bugzilla https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org.

Thanks.

On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 9:41 PM, Benjamin Chen bencmqw...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 I noticed that when I'm searching on Google, many Wikipedia results are in 
 the form of lang-code.zero.wikipedia.org, perhaps just since a day or two ago.

 I'm not sure what items are indexed this way, but it would really be a 
 trouble - there is no link on the page that jumps you to the standard site 
 (even the notice links to main page of m.wikipedia.org, not the corresponding 
 article on m.wikipedia.org)

 Regards,

 Benjamin Chen / [[User:Bencmq]]


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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Go away, community (from WMF wiki at least)

2013-05-11 Thread K. Peachey
(Inline comments most likely, So shoot me)

On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 2:48 AM, Sue Gardner sgard...@wikimedia.org wrote:
 …
 But, my understanding is also that occasionally volunteers have overridden
 decisions made by staff on the Wikimedia Foundation wiki. I don't think
 that's ever been a huge problem:
 …

Can you expand on this? I haven't really involved in foundationwiki
and I'm not going to go check all the edits for this, But this seems
like a kindly odd-shaped argument in my view. (The only time I was
involved with a staff-vol spat on wmfwiki, is when the staff member
decided the to need to take it to another wiki and then onto IRC as
well, where I and others had to bug staff members to find out whom
they were reporting to)

I highly doubt volunteers are just randomly undoing edits of staff
just because, We should be looking at the underlining issues behind
this, with what they are trying to fix and improving the workflow of
staff and volunteers. Just /randomly/ revoking seems counter-proactive
and detrimental to this.

 …
 So I would say this:

 This decision is not about the community versus the WMF. This decision
 is about the WMF staff, and making it possible for them to do their work on
 the WMF wiki with some reasonable degree of efficiency and effectiveness.

How many staff members that have jobs that rely on editing
foundationwiki? I did a quick scan of the last ~1000 or so edits and
really couldn't see any examples that stood out, If a volunteer
changes a staff edit, Yes it should be looked at but there is
generally a good reason (I've seen plently of staff members editing
other wikis that are clueless about the wiki world and people have
been fixing up their edits), And just removing admin rights doesn't
seem to have anything to do with that at all, Because the volunteers
can still edit (afaik the only rights they really loose are delete and
protect now)

 …
 This decision clarifies roles-and-responsibilities…

Not really, It was done randomly and at the end of a Friday when
most of the foundation stops working for the weekend, with lack of
meaningful communication to those involved (or in some cases,
communication at al), Personally it leaves more questions than
anything.

 …
 Personally, I feel like
 we're moving into a period now in which things are getting clearer. We
 don't pay staff to edit the projects:

I know at least one staff on a project, that has a bit to do with
there work, and has been directed to append staff to all their edit
summaries.

-Crazed ramblings out,
Peachey

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Comments on compliance and the FDC Round 2 decisions

2013-04-30 Thread K. Peachey
On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 1:04 PM, Asaf Bartov abar...@wikimedia.org wrote:
 ...
 I would like to stress that this is not a minor point of slight tardiness
 or some missing receipt -- this is actual mismanagement of funds (though
 not necessarily mis-use of funds, and NO ONE IS SUGGESTING BAD FAITH here
 -- we do not think WMHK has done anything illicit or ethically improper!),
 and _does indeed_ reflect on WMHK's ability to handle large grants.

Was this ever formally audited, and if so, is there a link to this
report? Just your implication using the word mismanagement sounds
like Bad faith to me...

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Single User Login finalisation: some accounts will be renamed

2013-04-30 Thread K. Peachey
On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 7:11 PM, Benjamin Chen bencmqw...@gmail.com wrote:
 ...
 One thing to note is the technical limitation on # of edits. If account has 
 too many edits, he may not be able to get it renamed further.
 ...

It just needs to be done server side, The same way it already is.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Proposal to use the internal wiki more

2013-04-29 Thread K. Peachey
Based on just flicking though the conversation, The main issue here is
historical content that is mostly in the way of the re-purposing?

Why not just close down internal.wiki and start a Internal.wiki 2.0
with a more defined scope that suits the purpose?

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Resignation announcement, and a parting remark to everyone

2013-04-29 Thread K. Peachey
On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 9:57 AM, Erlend Bjørtvedt erl...@wikimedia.no wrote:
 To clarify, my message is that the WMF should rather open an OFFICE in Hong
 Kong, to serve the 1.3 billion chinese-speaking, and other south-east
 Asians aswell from there.


India, anyone?

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Tweet this page from some or all sites???

2013-04-17 Thread K. Peachey
Discussion about this has occurred on en.wiki at least multiple times,
info can be found here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Perennial_proposals#Share_pages_on_Facebook.2C_Twitter_etc.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Announcement *please read*

2013-03-28 Thread K. Peachey
On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 7:52 PM, Mathias Schindler
mathias.schind...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 10:08 AM, Steven Zhang cro0...@gmail.com wrote:
 We all started talking about Sue Gardner for President 2016 on IRC today. 
 I'd vote for her...

 In order to do so, there are two minor prerequisites

 a) We must get rid of the clause in Section 1 of Article Two of the
 United States Constitution (natural born citizen). A quick look in
 Wikipedia tells me that really no-one has any emotional attachment to
 this clause and there have been no previous disputes over the
 eligibility of candidates for this office.

 or

 b) We must overthrow the political system in Canada and change the
 monarchy into a republic that actually has a President so that Sue can
 run for it.

 Mathias

Sue Gardner, Prime Minister of Australia.

especially with our current options it's very doable.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Will Beback, Arbcom and Community oversight

2013-03-24 Thread K. Peachey
On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 4:02 PM, Peter Southwood
peter.southw...@telkomsa.net wrote:
 Is there a policy that requires that he do so? 

Mailing list wise, No. But it is considered good ettique to do so.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation's non-disclosure agreement

2013-03-09 Thread K. Peachey
On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 12:20 AM, Tomasz W. Kozłowski
odder.w...@gmail.com wrote:
 ...
 #1: Does anyone know who might be able to provide a copy of an example
 NDA signed by WMF staff for use on Meta (at
 https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Non-disclosure_agreements)?
 #2: If it isn't possible to release the text for the public, is there
 any particular reason behind that? We all know (or can guess) what's
 usually covered by such documents, so it doesn't really make sense
 /not/ to publish that.

1. The legal department could quiet easily do it.
2. Normally I would find it strange that a legal document could be
copyrighted, But you know 'merica where the Law is actually
copyrighted (*sigh*) [or at least argued that it is] and the issues
surrounding that, Although I do believe the foundation did give a
pledge awhile back to make as much as possible under licenses (and
iirc transparentancy as well)

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] fiction: WMF policy of paying less than market

2013-03-08 Thread K. Peachey
On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 5:31 AM, Leslie Carr lc...@wikimedia.org wrote:
 On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 12:17 AM, Peter Gervai grin...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 7:43 PM, Leslie Carr lc...@wikimedia.org wrote:

 Though I do feel that the WMF salary is discriminating against my
 right to fly first class everywhere.  My champagne glass won't refill
 itself, you know!

 Do you accept donations?

 Cash, paypal, and of course bottles of champagne ;)

Bitcoin?

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation's support of OTRS

2013-02-21 Thread K. Peachey
On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 6:02 PM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote:
 James Alexander wrote:
Yeah, I have to agree sadly that we need more tech support and this has
been a thing that has been ongoing for a while. I personally think it
should remain in the foundation for many reasons (the least of which is
relatively large legal reasons) but we REALLY need to focus on it, or a
replacement, more.

 I would think the Wikimedia Foundation would want to remain pretty distant
 from unfiltered volunteer replies to e-mails, from a legal standpoint, but
 maybe someone from the Wikimedia Foundation legal team can chime in on
 this point.

 Thanks again for your post. Some of the background info in particular was
 enlightening.

As long as there is a NDA (or such) in place, It would be fine, No
different than having one of the OTRS devs work on it (see the bz
report about updates).

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimediaau-l] Fwd: Sue Gardner interview on ABC Radio

2013-02-14 Thread K. Peachey
Perhaps we should find out from the SLQ what license that is under, If
its under a decent license It might be worthwhile uploading it to
commons (in the appropriate format)

On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 10:56 AM, Thehelpfulone
thehelpfulonew...@gmail.com wrote:
 Alternatively you can play back the recorded video on Ustream:
 http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/29236225

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] Fwd: [Tech/Product] Engineering/Product org structure

2012-11-06 Thread K. Peachey
(Double Post, Since this was crossposted in the first place, and to
make sure I hit both lists, Sorry Wikitech)

On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 1:03 PM, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote:
 The way we’d get there:

 I’m prepared to resign from my engineering management responsibilities
 and to focus solely on my remaining role as VP of Product, as soon as
 a successor for VP of Engineering has been identified. We would start
 that hiring process probably in early 2013. I’m recommending to Sue
 that we seriously consider internal candidates for the VP of
 Engineering role, as we have a strong engineering management team in
 place today.

 So realistically we'd probably identify that person towards the end of
 the fiscal year.

Due to the nature of the foundation and to ensure continued growth and
prosperity I would be hoping that the foundation ensured both
positions became vacant and the person/s are chosen on the merits of
their applications to ensure the continued and best growth.

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