[Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Wikimedia Café - Sat 25 April 2020...

2020-04-22 Thread Lane Rasberry
Hello,

I am writing to invite anyone to join the next online meeting of Wikimedia
Café on Saturday 25 April 2020 4:30 PM UTC. Details for joining are at
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Café
> (video room open at that time) https://virginia.zoom.us/my/wikilgbt

The agenda for this month includes discussing maps on Wikipedia and
Wikimedia community fundraising outside the Wikimedia Foundation.

Wikimedia Café is a modest, one-hour, monthly online meeting which for the
past few months has had fewer than 10 attendees. At these meetings anyone
can propose to discuss any topic of broad Wikimedia community interest, as
if we all were able to meet in person over coffee. The meetings themselves
are an experiment in small group Wikimedia community conversation with
video chat, phone access options, and online shared notetaking. Please see
WikiProject Remote Event Participation for more information about this
general style of online event.
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiProject_remote_event_participation

   - Anyone interested in joining may do so.
   - Anyone interested in reading notes of past meetings can find them on
   the meta page.
   - If there is anyone who wants to get their ideas published in the wiki
   world, consider looking at how this Café works, because voice chat with
   notetaking could be a way to organize your own wiki community.

Thanks Pine for performing as host in this and thanks to anyone who submits
topics for discussion or who is able to join.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Café - Sat 28 March 2020...

2020-03-27 Thread Lane Rasberry
reminder - Wikimedia Café online meeting tomorrow Saturday 28 March 2020
4:30 PM UTC. Details for the event are at
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Café
> (video room open at that time) https://virginia.zoom.us/my/wikilgbt

If you have a story to share about COVID-19 and Wikimedia, this is an
opportunity to briefly tell it and have it go into a permanent record.

thanks

On Sun, Mar 15, 2020 at 6:42 PM Lane Rasberry  wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I am writing to invite anyone to join the next online meeting of Wikimedia
> Café on Saturday 28 March 2020 4:30 PM UTC. Details for joining are at
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Café
> > (video room open at that time) https://virginia.zoom.us/my/wikilgbt
>
> The agenda for this month includes discussing COVID-19 and Wikipedia and
> how Wikimedia community members feel about WMF/community relations.
>
> Wikimedia Café is a modest, one-hour, monthly online meeting which for the
> past few months has had fewer than 10 attendees. At these meetings anyone
> can propose to discuss any topic of broad Wikimedia community interest, as
> if we all were able to meet in person over coffee. The meetings themselves
> are an experiment in small group Wikimedia community conversation with
> video chat, phone access options, and online shared notetaking. Please see
> WikiProject Remote Event Participation for more information about this
> general style of online event.
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiProject_remote_event_participation
>
>- Anyone interested in joining may do so.
>- Anyone interested in reading notes of past meetings can find them on
>the meta page.
>- If there is anyone who wants to get their ideas published in the
>wiki world, consider looking at how this Café works, because voice chat
>with notetaking could be a way to organize your own wiki community.
>
> Thanks Pine for performing as host in this and thanks to anyone who
> submits topics for discussion or who is able to join.
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Message to readers from the Wikimedia Foundation regarding COVID-19

2020-03-19 Thread Lane Rasberry
I see this error message

Content Security Policy violation detected! Tried to load something from
https://xtools.wmflabs.org/api/page/articleinfo/en.wikipedia.org/NASA?format=html=en
.

On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 4:27 PM Joseph Seddon  wrote:

> Dear list,
>
> Given the unfolding global events, the Wikimedia Foundations feels it is
> important to reassure readers across the globe.
>
> We'll be displaying a short message at the top of the projects reaffirming
> our commitment to keep Wikipedia and the Wikimedia projects online, open
> and free for all. Readers often turn to Wikipedia for neutral information
> in times of stress. This is a critical moment for students who can't go to
> school, people who have to stay home with their families, and anyone who
> needs a trusted source of unbiased information.
>
> We also want to take a moment to acknowledge the invaluable work of all the
> medical contributors on Wikipedia. Thank you for keeping a close watch and
> keeping misinformation at bay. Coronavirus topics have received tens of
> thousands of edits by thousands of editors since the start of the pandemic.
> The article has been read more than 30 million times, in English alone.
>
> The message will be displayed just once to readers, and you can preview the
> banner [1]. The draft is in English but we want this message to be
> multilingual. If you have a moment, please help translate this banner into
> your language [2]. Thank you all, for your work and efforts.
>
> Stay safe, and wash your hands!
>
> --
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>
> [1] - Banner Preview:
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NASA?banner=programmatic_mlWW_rsp_covid19=1=US
>
>
> [2] - Translate link:
>
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Translate=Centralnotice-tgroup-Programmatic_translations_2020=view=%21translated=translate
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[Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Café - Sat 28 March 2020...

2020-03-15 Thread Lane Rasberry
>
> Hello,

I am writing to invite anyone to join the next online meeting of Wikimedia
Café on Saturday 28 March 2020 4:30 PM UTC. Details for joining are at
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Café
> (video room open at that time) https://virginia.zoom.us/my/wikilgbt

The agenda for this month includes discussing COVID-19 and Wikipedia and
how Wikimedia community members feel about WMF/community relations.

Wikimedia Café is a modest, one-hour, monthly online meeting which for the
past few months has had fewer than 10 attendees. At these meetings anyone
can propose to discuss any topic of broad Wikimedia community interest, as
if we all were able to meet in person over coffee. The meetings themselves
are an experiment in small group Wikimedia community conversation with
video chat, phone access options, and online shared notetaking. Please see
WikiProject Remote Event Participation for more information about this
general style of online event.
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiProject_remote_event_participation

   - Anyone interested in joining may do so.
   - Anyone interested in reading notes of past meetings can find them on
   the meta page.
   - If there is anyone who wants to get their ideas published in the wiki
   world, consider looking at how this Café works, because voice chat with
   notetaking could be a way to organize your own wiki community.

Thanks Pine for performing as host in this and thanks to anyone who submits
topics for discussion or who is able to join.

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[Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Café - Saturday 25 Jan 2020 4:30 PM UTC...

2020-01-23 Thread Lane Rasberry
Hello,

I am writing to invite anyone to join the next online meeting of Wikimedia
Café on Saturday 25 Jan 2020 4:30 PM UTC. Details for joining are at
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Café
> (video room open at that time) https://virginia.zoom.us/my/wikilgbt

The agenda for this month includes discussing Wikipedia holidays, Wikipedia
video tutorials, and the Wikimedia Strategic recommendations.

Wikimedia Café is a modest, one-hour, monthly online meeting which for the
past few months has had fewer than 10 attendees. At these meetings anyone
can propose to discuss any topic of broad Wikimedia community interest, as
if we all were able to meet in person over coffee. The meetings themselves
are an experiment in small group Wikimedia community conversation with
video chat, phone access options, and online shared notetaking.

Anyone interested in joining may.
Anyone interested in reading notes of past meetings can find them on the
meta page.
If there is anyone who wants to get their ideas published in the wiki
world, consider looking at how this Café works, because voice chat with
notetaking could be a way to organize your own wiki community.

Thanks,

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Remember Wikipedia Zero.. Where is the research about the effects of its demise?

2019-12-02 Thread Lane Rasberry
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Café online meeting for November 2019

2019-11-20 Thread Lane Rasberry
Hello,

Wikimedia Café meets tomorrow 21 November 2019 at 1 PM Eastern / 5 PM UTC
(13:00 Eastern / 17:00 UTC)
join zoom video --> https://virginia.zoom.us/my/wikilgbt

See the agenda, joining information, and notes from previous meetings below.
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Caf%C3%A9

The topic for discussion in this meeting is the recent WMF/AffCom
de-recognition of Wikimedia India as a chapter. Future meetings can have
any topic of community interest. A goal of these meetings is to produce
media records of conversation for hot topics in the wiki world.

Thanks to Wikipedian Pine for ongoing experiments like this one in
promoting community conversation. If any wiki community member wishes to
play host at this or future online meetups, Pine is good for emailing
notices, I support with note-taking, and participation is welcome for
anyone who can bring in any small group to discuss any wiki topic. Take any
role you like, including friendly observer.

Rules for all meetings - friendly space, follow code of conduct, be nice
and positive and avoid negativity.

thanks -

On Wed, Nov 6, 2019 at 5:23 PM Pine W  wrote:

>  Hello colleagues,
>
> For this month's Wikimedia Café online video meeting we will continue last
> month's discussion regarding Wikimedia activities and organizations in
> India. Additional topics may be added to the agenda.
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [LGBT] Best practices for awarding scholarships

2019-10-07 Thread Lane Rasberry
Hello,

I have wished that eventually when people apply for scholarships or even
when they attend wiki events they create profiles for themselves in
Wikidata so that we could generate visualizations of the demographics of
participants.

I do not think the wiki movement is quite ready for this, but if we
actually want to track and report demographics, doing so in Wikidata is
probably the way most natural for the wiki community.

On Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 9:27 AM Fæ  wrote:

> Plans for a Wikimedia LGBT+ conference and workshops in 2020 are
> moving forward. We would very much like to learn and borrow successful
> experiences from other conferences. This conference is expected to be
> relatively modest in size, around 50 attendees, and is to be hosted in
> Linz, Austria.
>
> We are planning on opening up applications for scholarships very soon,
> to allow several months for early booking of travel tickets and visa
> applications where needed. Naturally this means we have to create a
> process for assessing applications to a hopefully short and
> non-subjective checklist (we are all volunteers after all!).
>
> Can anyone recommend documented good practices for assessing
> applications for travel grants and expenses for similar sized events?
> Some issues we have discussed that need to be addressed before
> finalizing our policies are:
> * Creating a fair assessment process that balances the diversity of
> attendees against other metrics like on-project experience, for
> example ensuring that we have a healthy gender balance and a wide
> geographic representation
> * Whether it may be better to prefer the simplicity of assessing for
> full scholarships, or whether partial payments are a good way of
> ensuring wider access
> * How to draw up rules for travel and partial scholarships for folks
> planning on making this part of a holiday, as often happens for those
> travelling long distances
> * When to recommend that specific Wikimedia Affiliates should provide
> grants and expenses, which may have additional requirements for
> applications and reporting
> * How to build in incentives for greener travel options, even where
> this may not be the cheapest option
>
> You can read the conference proposal at
>
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Conference/Kawayashu/Queering_Wikipedia
> and everyone is welcome to provide suggestions and feedback on the
> discussion page there, if on-wiki editing works better for you than
> email. :-)
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Affiliates] Recognition of the Wikimedians of Saint Petersburg User Group

2019-10-03 Thread Lane Rasberry
A usergroup for every city!

On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 10:15 AM Philip Kopetzky 
wrote:

> Hi Kirill,
>
> so it seems like geographically large countries are being split up into
> different user groups - do you think that this is a viable model for the
> future or just happened because of certain circumstances within the Russian
> community? Would your template allow a User Group from Rome, Paris, Munich
> or Sydney for example?
>
> Best,
> Philip
>
> On Thu, 3 Oct 2019 at 12:20, Kirill Lokshin 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone!
>>
>> I'm very happy to announce that the Affiliations Committee has recognized
>> [1] the Wikimedians of Saint Petersburg User Group [2] as a Wikimedia User
>> Group. The group aims to unite Wikimedians living in St. Petersburg, to
>> support the development of content on topics related to St. Petersburg
>> across different Wikimedia projects, to promote the Wikimedia projects and
>> movement in St. Petersburg, and to build partnerships between the Wikimedia
>> community and cultural, scientific, educational, and media institutions in
>> St. Petersburg.
>>
>> Please join me in congratulating the members of this new user group!
>>
>> Regards,
>> Kirill Lokshin
>> Chair, Affiliations Committee
>>
>> [1]
>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee/Resolutions/Recognition_of_Saint_Petersburg_User_Group
>> [2]
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Medicine: Changes in Board Compositions

2019-08-14 Thread Lane Rasberry
Lots of good news with medicine and wiki lately!

   - Wikimedia Medicine is established at the chapter rank!
   - stable leadership and membership in the organization for years!
   - lots of medicine + wiki + university partnerships!
   - ongoing medical content programs!
   - people are enjoying!
   - 20% of the Wikimedia Foundation board of Trustees are highly engaged
   in medicine



On Tue, Aug 13, 2019 at 12:36 AM Rajeeb Dutta  wrote:

> Congrats Shani & Doug Taylor and all my best wishes for your upcoming
> future endeavour.
>
> Best Regards,
> Rajeeb Dutta.
> (U: Marajozkee)
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On 13-Aug-2019, at 4:43 AM, Shani Evenstein 
> wrote:
> >
> > Dear all,
> >
> > If you've seen my post yesterday then you might have expected this this
> > announcement as well; if you haven't -- as some of you may know, I will
> > soon be joining the Board of Trustees (August 15), and am therefore
> > required to resign my formal role as Chair of Wikimedia Medicine (a.k.a.
> > WikiProject Medicine Foundation). This means a new vacancy in the board
> has
> > to be filled and a new Chair must be appointed.
> >
> > I'm happy to report that in an online board meeting earlier this month
> the
> > board chose *Doug Taylor* to serve as the new Chair for our newly
> approved
> > Thematic Organization. Doug has been part of WikiProject Medicine for
> years
> > now and has diligently served as the group's formal secretary. Doug not
> > only has the institutional memory of the organization, but has actively
> > taken part in a variety related activities in the UK and in collaboration
> > with other countries. Doug also brings management skills to the board,
> > experience from the board of Wikimedia UK, as well as a deep
> understanding
> > of the movement as a whole, which I have no doubt will allow the
> > organization to grow and expand its activities around the world.
> >
> > As Doug transitions into his new position as Chair, *Dr. Stuart Ray* will
> > be supporting him as Vice Chair and continue to serve as co-treasurer,
> and
> > *Mossab* will continue to serve as Membership Admin. A new secretary will
> > be appointed soon, hopefully during the board's in-person meeting at
> > Wikimania. The board will also soon co-opt a new board member to fill out
> > the vacant spot, till the next election in 2022.
> >
> > I'll remain involved in the organization as an 'adviser to the board' and
> > look forward to seeing this Thematic Organization grow, as well as to
> > continue contributing to medical-related topics as a volunteer and
> lecturer
> > at the Tel Aviv University.
> >
> > Best,
> > Shani Evenstein.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Open Letter to Affiliations Committee : Wikimedia India's Demand For A Fair And Transparent Hearing

2019-07-07 Thread Lane Rasberry
https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaindia-l/2018-January/013188.html
>
> [9]
>
> https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaindia-l/2018-April/013295.html
>
>
>
>
> -
>
> Annexure
>
> [A] Reallocating the Affcom - WMIN Communication To Meta : No
> communications over email, video call, social media, instant messaging, or
> anywhere but wiki! While this would not just be aligned with the editing
> spirit, it would promote greater transparency and also helpful for us to
> communicate the message to our community members. While, we understand
> Affcom had been advocating the same, however, taking care of privacy
> concerns, do let us.  Once we hear from Affcom on having no privacy
> concerns, we may reallocate the discussions.
>
> If there a consent to this, would request a green light also for
>
>1.
>
>Archiving the entire email conversation over a cloud document and
>linking it to the relevant Meta page.
>2.
>
>Documenting Internet Calls in an attempt to resolve communication gaps
>and linking them to Meta page for greater transparency.
>3.
>
>Based on Principal of Free Speech, allowing anybody to use the
>discussion page for expression of their views.
>4.
>
>Any Volunteer is free to translate the text into the language of their
>choice.
>5.
>
>Upload All PDF sent via Mails to Commons and link them to the Meta Page.
>6.
>
>All relevant customs and procedures which exist for any Meta page to be
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Interpretation of CC NC from SUISA

2019-05-19 Thread Lane Rasberry
In 2009 Creative Commons published "Defining Noncommercial", a 250-page
report presenting survey data on what people consider to be
"noncommercial". There is a copy of the report at
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creative_Commons_NonCommercial_license

My summary of that report is that no one knows or cares what noncommercial
means, except that it is better than completely closed but still should not
be called free or open media. the majority of media using any CC license
has an NC license. Creative Commons advises that they do not know how to
define "noncommercial", and neither does anyone else. No one has any intent
to clarify the situation. Creators and consumers demand the ambiguity as a
feature. In practice, content creators imagine whatever they like when they
apply the license to their work, and remixers imagine whatever they like
when they reuse the work. The differences in imagination never get
reconciled or checked, and typically no one cares.

There is no organization anywhere which has ever given a reasonable or
thoughtful explanation for why they use NC licenses, where their concept
matches any common understanding of what an NC license actually does.

Creative Commons calls NC licenses "non-free", which I think is a great
place to start any conversation about them.

If anyone knows of an reasonable essay or statement justifying the use of
these licenses then please share on the article's talk page.

On Sun, May 19, 2019 at 6:17 AM James Heilman  wrote:

> Per "the Foundation has decided", it is not the foundation but our movement
> that has decided that we will mostly only allow licenses that allow
> commercial reuse.
>
> By the way EN WP also allows fair use of certain images which may not
> permit commercial reuse in certain jurisdictions.
>
> James
>
> On Sun, May 19, 2019 at 11:48 AM Mister Thrapostibongles <
> thrapostibong...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Yury
> >
> > I'm not quite sure what you mean here.  Firstly, this isn't the right
> venue
> > for a discussion of the general principle of non-commercial licensing,
> > especially as the Foundation has decided on the use of licences that
> permit
> > commercial reuse.  And secondly, there's nothing to prevent a rights
> owner
> > from granting a full/libre licence if they want to for the works they
> own:
> > so why would one need to advocate for it, here or anywhere else?
> >
> > Thrapostibongles
> >
> > On Sat, May 18, 2019 at 10:42 AM Yury Bulka <
> > setthemf...@privacyrequired.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hello everyone,
> > >
> > > Just stumbled upon an page where Swiss collecting society SUISA lists
> > > things which they consider commercial use within CC NC licenses, as
> > > applied to works they have copyright on (delegated from authors who are
> > > their members). It's quite interesting and I think it is a very good
> > > example for advocating for fully free/libre licensing of works.
> > >
> > > Here's the page:
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://www.suisa.ch/en/members/authors/how-to-register-a-work/creative-commons.html
> > >
> > > The list of uses that they consider commercial use is quite
> > > interesting. For instance, it includes things like:
> > >
> > > - involving a counterpart, of a financial or other nature, regardless
> of
> > > the beneficiary, title or grounds;
> > > - in exchange for other goods, whether or not the exchange generates
> > >   direct or indirect revenues or gives rise to a payment of any nature
> > >   whatsoever;
> > > - at places of work;
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > Yury.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Dispute between Common and Outreach

2019-05-14 Thread Lane Rasberry
wiki norms which seem to have been transgressed -

   - recognition that the program and submitted content was unusual and
   extraordinary
   - lack of on-wiki documentation of program
   - lack of links between submitted content and on-wiki documentation
   - lack of small pilot before collecting the attention of many new
   Wikimedia contributors doing something unusual
   - failure to tag participants in the program as being connected to the
   program and its documentation

It is not the fault of your program and organization that you did not do
these things. The documentation for all this should have been in place from
~2013, because this situation happens repeatedly. Unfortunately we as a
movement are losing tremendous value in institutional engagement and
donations for lack of documentation. I would guess that in the United
States we identify hot leads for about 10 organizations to pay their staff
to do wiki programs which have a salary cost of US$50,000 in addition to
the value of their media contributions. Globally the amount of content lost
for lack of documentation could be 1 million / year, when conceivably we
could stop a lot of this loss with a one-time investment in training
material development.

Programs have to follow rules. The rules are not published but lots of
people know them. It seems like as a movement we prefer the damage of
opportunity costs in favor of risky or more expensive administrative
development. I feel like if somehow you had connected to a guide for what
to do, then with preparation none of these problems would have happened.

I do not blame the moderators. If these moderators had not reached this
decision, then almost any other moderator would have reached the same
decision. The moderators are well trained and precise in the sense that
they tend to uniformly make the same evaluations in situations. Besides the
reviewers that you saw issue judgement, at least 5 times as many people
reviewed the case and declined to comment or make their presence known.
Those quiet people agreed with the discussion.

You and everyone else deserve clear documentation and guidance. For our
inability to create this and deliver it to you, I apologize and have
regret.

On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 10:13 AM Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga <
galder...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Sorry Lane... which " wiki publishing norm" did we fail?
>
> Thanks
> 
> From: Wikimedia-l  on behalf of
> Lane Rasberry 
> Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2019 4:01 PM
> To: Wikimedia Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Dispute between Common and Outreach
>
> I see the problem as lack of access to basic training information.
>
> It appears that the team doing the uploads failed to comply to wiki
> publishing norms. I do not see this as a problem between editors and
> moderators, but rather as being between who editors versus our rules.
>
> Wikimedia projects already have an low quality standard. The two most
> common complaints that Wikipedia gets are #2 Wikipedia publishes low
> quality content and #1 Wikipedia's quality standards are too high. I see
> this issue as a complaint for us to lower quality.
>
> The answer is not to lower the quality of our content, but rather to
> communicate more effectively the standard of quality that we require. With
> our standards already being so low, requiring things like proof of legal
> compliance, minimal verifiability, and having brief civil conversations in
> case of difficulty, it is challenging for me to imagine us reducing any of
> these already reasonable expectations.
>
> If anyone wants to meet professional Wikimedia colleagues for institutional
> partnerships then here is a Wikimedia community organization which supports
> Wikimedians in Residence with a monthly online meetup and some conversation
> space.
> WREN - Wikimedians in Residence Exchange Network
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedians_in_Residence_Exchange_Network
>
>
>
> On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 9:46 AM Yann Forget  wrote:
>
> > Le mar. 14 mai 2019 à 15:32, Andy Mabbett  a
> > écrit :
> >
> > > On Tue, 14 May 2019 at 04:50, Yann Forget  wrote:
> > >
> > > > Currently, we require a confirmation via OTRS if an image was
> > previously
> > > > published elsewhere before being uploaded to Commons.
> > >
> > > Really? can you provide a link to a policy age proving that assertion?
> > >
> > > Your claim rather makes a mockery of the suggestion that people should
> > > publish to, for example, Flickr before importing to commons
> > >
> >
> > Unless the external publication is done with a free license, of course.
> > AFAIK, there is no "official" suggestion that people should publish to
> > Flickr before importing

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Dispute between Common and Outreach

2019-05-14 Thread Lane Rasberry
I see the problem as lack of access to basic training information.

It appears that the team doing the uploads failed to comply to wiki
publishing norms. I do not see this as a problem between editors and
moderators, but rather as being between who editors versus our rules.

Wikimedia projects already have an low quality standard. The two most
common complaints that Wikipedia gets are #2 Wikipedia publishes low
quality content and #1 Wikipedia's quality standards are too high. I see
this issue as a complaint for us to lower quality.

The answer is not to lower the quality of our content, but rather to
communicate more effectively the standard of quality that we require. With
our standards already being so low, requiring things like proof of legal
compliance, minimal verifiability, and having brief civil conversations in
case of difficulty, it is challenging for me to imagine us reducing any of
these already reasonable expectations.

If anyone wants to meet professional Wikimedia colleagues for institutional
partnerships then here is a Wikimedia community organization which supports
Wikimedians in Residence with a monthly online meetup and some conversation
space.
WREN - Wikimedians in Residence Exchange Network
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedians_in_Residence_Exchange_Network



On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 9:46 AM Yann Forget  wrote:

> Le mar. 14 mai 2019 à 15:32, Andy Mabbett  a
> écrit :
>
> > On Tue, 14 May 2019 at 04:50, Yann Forget  wrote:
> >
> > > Currently, we require a confirmation via OTRS if an image was
> previously
> > > published elsewhere before being uploaded to Commons.
> >
> > Really? can you provide a link to a policy age proving that assertion?
> >
> > Your claim rather makes a mockery of the suggestion that people should
> > publish to, for example, Flickr before importing to commons
> >
>
> Unless the external publication is done with a free license, of course.
> AFAIK, there is no "official" suggestion that people should publish to
> Flickr before importing to Commons.
> This is the primary evidence when images are deleted as copyright
> violation.
> Others may be watermarks, copyright mentions in EXIF data, etc.
>
> > I think professional photographers should have their account confirmed by
> > > OTRS.
> >
> > Feel free to raise an RfC to make that policy if you think it would
> > gather support.
>
>
> This is simply a consequence of the above.
> If images of professional quality are imported to Commons after being
> published elsewhere, their copyright status will be questioned,
> and rightly so. Now if these images are only published on Commons, fine,
> but the objective of a professional is to sell his images, not to give them
> away for free.
> In addition, many professionals use stock image agencies (Getty, etc.),
> which often requires exclusivity, and therefore prevent publication under a
> free license.
>
> Regards, Yann
> PS: I am probably one of the most inclusive admins on Commons (or less
> strict regarding copyright issues), so if you think yelling at me would
> solve the issue, you are mistaken. I really want Commons to improve, and I
> am open to critics, that's why I come here to discuss, but do not shoot the
> messenger.
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikidata] Wikimedia Sverige receives a total of USD 500, 000+ in funding for three new projects, and a cost reduction of USD 30, 000/year

2019-03-28 Thread Lane Rasberry
ng the generous subsidy).
>
> Please contact John Andersson (john.anders...@wikimedia.se) if you have
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>
> [1] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikispeech
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Bylaws changed plus next steps

2019-02-19 Thread Lane Rasberry
at now will
> > include over a hundred user groups, the Wikimedia Foundation is offering
> > its support to set up infrastructure and help with communications if
> > requested by the affiliates.
> >
> > A page for translation can be found at:
> >
> >
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliate-selected_Board_seats/2019/Wikimedia_Foundation_Bylaws_changed_plus_next_steps
> >
> > On behalf of the Board
> >
> > antanana / Nataliia Tymkiv
> >
> > Chair of the Board Governance Committee
> >
> > [1]
> >
> >
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_bylaws/December_2018_-_Affiliate-selected_trustees,_term_limits,_and_diversity
> >
> >
> > [2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_user_groups
> >
> >
> > [3] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliate-selected_Board_seats/2019
> >
> >
> > [4]
> >
> >
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_bylaws/January_2014_-_Amendment_for_Trustees_selected_by_Chapters_and_Thematic_Organizations
> >
> > *NOTICE: You may have received this message outside of your normal
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Publication of WMF Affiliate agreements

2019-01-23 Thread Lane Rasberry
I agree that this is a problematic issue which someone should answer.
Likely entities to answer this could be the WMF board, because they
recently granted voting rights to user groups, or the Affiliations
Committee, which instituted the practices of privacy in applying to be a
user group.

I expect that all of this is a bureaucratic misunderstanding that probably
arose from WMF staff rather than Wikimedia community management in the
Wikimedia affiliate application process.

In answer to Fae, no, the agreements are not available, because the
application process is intentionally private, off-wiki, and only to be
known to the WMF and the in confidence to the Affiliations Committee.

I made similar points here
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_Foundation_bylaws/December_2018_-_Affiliate-selected_trustees,_term_limits,_and_diversity#User_groups_are_unknown_to_Wikimedia_community

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Affiliations_Committee#No_more_private_user_group_applications
!





On Wed, Jan 23, 2019 at 7:41 AM Fæ  wrote:

> It appears that Affiliate agreements with the Wikimedia Foundation are
> not published on-wiki in a consistent way.[1]
>
> Though the standard templates are available, these have varied over
> time, so at a minimum to understand which Chapter/Thorg/User Group has
> currently agreed which legally binding statement, there should be an
> indication or link to the specific version. The templates have to be
> customized, and this may include some legally meaningful changes, not
> just bureaucratic ones.
>
> As an example, the table of 108 User Groups, simply gives the names of
> the groups. It would be extremely difficult, perhaps impossible, to
> work out exactly when each signed up to the UG agreement, or confirm
> which User Groups legally signed up to the post May 2015 version that
> makes compliance with the Code of Conduct mandatory. As a second
> example, tracking down the UK Chapter agreement,[2] a customized one
> was agreed by the WMF and WMUK, but when I followed the 'official'
> links, the version I was directed to was a 2009 draft version on the
> UK Chapter wiki (no copy on Meta), which appears unlikely to be the
> current chapters agreement due to a fairly obvious drafting error.
>
> Could the Affiliates Committee look into this as a matter of its
> necessary and tracked administration of a correct public record,
> rather than relying on it happening ad hoc?
>
> Thanks,
> Fae
>
> Links
> 1.
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_movement_affiliates/Agreements
> 2. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Chapter_agreements
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Survey about the Foundation's Mission

2019-01-16 Thread Lane Rasberry
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Is the death of Wikipedia imminent?

2018-12-30 Thread Lane Rasberry
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Proposed changes to the Wikimedia Foundation Bylaws

2018-12-07 Thread Lane Rasberry
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of the Wikimedians in Residence Exchange Network User Group

2018-11-17 Thread Lane Rasberry
Wo woo w yippee



On Fri, Nov 16, 2018 at 5:47 PM Kirill Lokshin 
wrote:

> Hi everyone!
>
> I'm very happy to announce that the Affiliations Committee has recognized
> [1] the Wikimedians in Residence Exchange Network User Group [2] as a
> Wikimedia User Group. The group aims to protect the common elements of the
> Wikimedian in Residence role, creating a peer support network which invites
> new and experienced Wikimedians in Residence to find each other for
> collaboration, and to encourage a global professional environment which
> inspires institutions to offer appointments to persons to engage with
> Wikimedia projects.
>
> Please join me in congratulating the members of this new user group!
>
> Regards,
> Kirill Lokshin
> Chair, Affiliations Committee
>
> [1]
>
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee/Resolutions/Recognition_of_Wikimedians_in_Residence_Exchange_Network_User_Group
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Monthly skill share idea

2018-10-15 Thread Lane Rasberry
You are on the main mailing list, did you know? Is this UK workshop to be
online?

Ideas:
Using the Programs and Events Dashboard.
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Programs_%26_Events_Dashboard>

Related, generating traffic reports with massviews.
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Traffic_reporting#Massviews_Analysis>

On Mon, Oct 15, 2018 at 8:48 AM Benoît Evellin (Trizek) <
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> Have you checked about similar initiatives from other chapters or user
> groups? I've heard that Wikimédia France ou Wikimedia Deutschland host
> similar workshops, both in their offices or inside of local groups. They
> may have some feedback to share.
>
> Benoît
>
> On Mon, Oct 15, 2018 at 1:36 PM Peter Southwood <
> peter.southw...@telkomsa.net> wrote:
>
> > I like the idea. Once you have worked out how to do it efficiently, maybe
> > the WMF can send out trainers to places where the skills are thin on the
> > ground.
> > Cheers,
> > Peter
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On
> > Behalf Of John Lubbock
> > Sent: 15 October 2018 13:14
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> > Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Monthly skill share idea
> >
> > Hi all, after talking to community members at the London meetup
> yesterday,
> > I want to suggest that we start running a monthly skillshare after work
> at
> > the Wikimedia UK office. It would be good to organise a 12 month
> programme
> > with skillshares on things like 'getting an article to featured article
> > status', AWB, Wikidata infoboxes, something on commons or photography
> > perhaps.
> >
> > Would anybody like to suggest other subjects which it would be good to
> have
> > a workshop on? We need a list of 12 which would have some broad appeal to
> > the community and chapter members.
> >
> > I would suggest Tuesday, Wednesday or Thursday, maybe first week of the
> > month. How does that sound to everyone?
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Plea from Wikimedia Portugal

2018-10-09 Thread Lane Rasberry
ening in parallel. They are
> > listed on our activities plan for anyone to see [14], and more are
> planned.
> > After several years of inactivity, we are happy to be on a sustainable
> > growth path, gradually building capacity and doing the best we can with
> the
> > resources available to us. We’ve also been using our personal contacts
> with
> > other movements in order to increase our organization’s capacity. Ana,
> > newly appointed to the Board, has just returned from Wiki Takes Zamora,
> > where she was learning from Wikimedia Spain, relaunching the
> collaboration
> > between both chapters. Two of the events we have planned for November are
> > using this paradigm. We’ll celebrate Wikidata’s sixth anniversary with a
> > local group of data enthusiasts in Porto, and near Lisbon we’re helping
> > with the organization and will participate in a FOSS event, so in both
> > cases we’ll also acquire event organization skills. This growth path is
> in
> > peril if you continue to undermine our efforts.
> >
> > Over the last half year we’ve been attacked, offended, insulted, received
> > multiple threats of judicial action by Vasconcelos, and even an actual
> > intimidatory letter from a lawyer working for him (but purportedly on
> > behalf of WMPT); and during this entire time we’ve tried not to escalate
> > the situation, not to engage with such attempts at direct confrontation,
> > nor make them public. You force us now to disclose this in order to clear
> > our name and set the record straight. With the help and support of the
> > legal and security departments of the Wikimedia Foundation, we have dealt
> > with the actions of Vasconcelos so far. And we will follow the
> disciplinary
> > procedures foreseen for these situations in our bylaws which may result
> in
> > his removal from the chapter.
> >
> > We’ve repeatedly complied in unusually strict terms with legal
> > requirements, and with AffCom’s roadmap, while dealing with Vasconcelos’
> > actions as privately as we could in order not to affect the public image
> of
> > the Wikimedia movement, nor its community – but honestly, we’re reaching
> > the point of exhaustion in light of AffCom’s puzzling behavior along this
> > process. We understand that AffCom may have reserves regarding our
> future,
> > but the way it is dealing with the situation is clearly
> counterproductive.
> > How can AffCom keep making new accusations without at least asking us for
> > information or confirmations?
> >
> > Currently, our major source of disruption, distress and anxiety is each
> new
> > message we receive from AffCom, as they repeatedly defy our expectations
> of
> > a partner claiming to be attempting to help us getting back on our feet.
> We
> > are actually wary that the next address could be an announcement that
> > Wikimedia Portugal has been de-recognized, even after we have passed our
> > “road of trials”, due to the ever moving goalposts. Several of our key
> > people have reported insomnia, including myself, after receiving your
> > communications. We’re reaching our physical, psychological, and
> > motivational limit, in great part due to AffCom’s actions and
> inexplicable
> > lack of support and transparency.
> >
> > It is time to stop this! Despite what we still believe were your best
> > intentions, AffCom has inadvertently caused significant destabilization
> for
> > Wikimedia Portugal.
> >
> > Please honor your part of the compromise, lift this suspension and let us
> > proceed in the productive pursuit of our collective mission.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Gonçalo
> > Gonçalo Themudo
> >
> > *Presidente*
> > *Wikimedia Portugal*
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Paid translation

2018-02-24 Thread Lane Rasberry
Excellent idea.

I have the idea that the WMF invests $10,000 in the developing world to
recruit $1000 of volunteer labor.

We need to be realistic about the relative costs of doing Western-style,
rich country outreach in all economies. In the past, the strategy has been
to fund the recruitment of volunteers and avoid hiring content producing
staff no matter the outcomes, cost, or impact.

In the spectrum of the average income of individuals in some places, it is
obviously easier and more impactful to hire someone with a masters degree
to outright produce content than to pay for a program which will recruit
volunteers.

Obviously, the WMF cannot and will never pay for content. However, I think
that we need to make it easier for Wikimedia chapters, community groups,
and partner organizations to hire paid contributors. Translation is the
most obvious place to start because having base content in an encyclopedia
is the foundation for demonstrating the legitimacy and value of Wikimedia
projects. Funding should go from WMF to chapters to paid staff for content.

To make this project a go we would need to have a conversation about what
sort of content is a priority for translation. I have a draft of an idea
for prioritizing content for translation.
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiki99>
The idea is that for any given field of study, subject matter experts
identify 99 articles in that field which they deem and come to consensus as
priorities for having a global conversation in that field. So for example,
if a group funds translation of LGBT+ content, then we would need to
develop a canon of LGBT topics to which everyone in the world would have
access. I have no idea how to choose topics, but fewer than 100 is probably
not enough and more than 100 is probably too much for an all-languages
translation project. I could use some help drafting guidelines for how to
make priorities for what to translate given limited resources.


On Sat, Feb 24, 2018 at 7:51 AM, John Erling Blad <jeb...@gmail.com> wrote:

> This discussion is going to be fun! =D
>
> A little more than seventy Wikipedia-projects has more than 65k articles,
> the remaining two hundred or so are pretty small.
>
> What if a base set of articles were opened for paid translators? There are
> several lists of such base sets. We have both the thousand articles from
> "List of articles every Wikipedia should have"[1] and and the ten thousand
> articles from the expanded list[2].
>
> Lets say verified good translators was paid about $0.01 per word (about $1
> for a 1k-article) for translating one of those articles into another
> language, with perhaps a higher pay for contributors in high-cost
> countries. The pay would also have to be higher for languages that lacks
> good translation tools.
>
> I believe this would be an _enabling_ activity for the communities, as
> without a base set of articles it won't be possible to build a community at
> all. By not paying for new articles, and only translating well-referenced
> articles, some of the disputes in the communities could be avoided. Perhaps
> we should also identify good source articles, that would be a help.
> Translated articles should be above some minimum size, but they does not
> have to be full translations of the source article.
>
> A real problem is that our existing lists of good articles other projects
> should have is pretty much biased towards Western World, so they need a lot
> of adjustments. Perhaps such a project would identify our inherit bias?
>
> [1]
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/List_of_articles_every_
> Wikipedia_should_have
> [2]
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Appointment of Esra’a Al Shafei to Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees

2017-12-01 Thread Lane Rasberry
oversight, governance, and organizational development; and a
> > commitment
> > >>> to
> > >>>> advancing Wikimedia’s mission of free knowledge for all.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> She was approved unanimously by the Wikimedia Foundation Board of
> > >>> Trustees.
> > >>>> Her term is effective December 2017 and will continue for three
> years.
> > >>>> Please see the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees
> > >>>> <https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.google.com/url?q%
> > >>>> 3Dhttps://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Board_of_Trustees%
> > >>>> 26amp;sa%3DD%26amp;ust%3D1512164054873000%26amp;usg%
> > >>>> 3DAFQjCNHvsp86oFFv5hD8SZzexjBIHdrkWA=D=1512164054901000=
> > >>>> AFQjCNGS6qlGUSUBQzF5PmvviPecf7Kw4A>
> > >>>> for
> > >>>> complete biographies.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> About the Wikimedia Foundation
> > >>>>
> > >>>> The Wikimedia Foundation is the non-profit organization that
> supports
> > >> and
> > >>>> operates Wikipedia and its sister free knowledge projects. Wikipedia
> > is
> > >>> the
> > >>>> world’s free knowledge resource, spanning more than 45 million
> > articles
> > >>>> across nearly 300 languages. Every month, more than 200,000 people
> > edit
> > >>>> Wikipedia and the Wikimedia projects, collectively creating and
> > >> improving
> > >>>> knowledge that is accessed by more than 1 billion unique devices
> every
> > >>>> month. This all makes Wikipedia one of the most popular web
> properties
> > >> in
> > >>>> the world. Based in San Francisco, California, the Wikimedia
> > Foundation
> > >>> is
> > >>>> a 501(c)(3) charity that is funded primarily through donations and
> > >>> grants.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Esra’a Al Shafei profile
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Esra'a Al Shafei is a human rights activist and the founder and
> > >> director
> > >>> of
> > >>>> Majal, a nonprofit which helps build communities that celebrate,
> > >> protect,
> > >>>> and promote diversity, and social justice.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> A native of Bahrain, Esra'a works avidly to increase and protect
> free
> > >>>> speech, promote expression for youth and underrepresented voices,
> and
> > >>>> improve the lives of LGBTQ people in the Middle East and North
> Africa.
> > >>> She
> > >>>> founded Majal in 2006 as Mideast Youth. The organization has built
> > >> online
> > >>>> platforms that creatively facilitate the struggle for social change
> in
> > >>> the
> > >>>> Middle East and North Africa.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Esra'a received the Berkman Award for Internet Innovation from
> Berkman
> > >>>> Klein Center for Internet & Society at Harvard Law School in 2008
> for
> > >>>> "outstanding contributions to the internet and its impact on
> society."
> > >>> The
> > >>>> World Economic Forum listed her as one of "15 Women Changing the
> World
> > >> in
> > >>>> 2015."
> > >>>>
> > >>>> She has won the "Most Courageous Media" Prize from Free Press
> > >> Unlimited,
> > >>>> and the Monaco Media Prize, which acknowledges innovative uses of
> > media
> > >>> for
> > >>>> the betterment of humanity.
> > >>>>
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> > >> Director’s
> > >>>> Fellow at the MIT Media Lab. She received a Shuttleworth Foundation
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Berkman Klein Center: Will Wikipedia exist in, 20 years?

2017-10-26 Thread Lane Rasberry
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Predictions_of_Wikipedia%27s_end

Thanks Andreas, Mathieu, Christian, Asaf, Cornelius, and SJ for advancing
the conversation and promoting the video. I felt inspired also so I started
an article on English Wikipedia.

On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 12:09 PM, Cornelius Kibelka <
cornelius.kibe...@wikimedia.de> wrote:

> I've added them.
>
> Cheers
> Cornelius
>
> On 26 October 2017 at 11:13, mathieu stumpf guntz <
> psychosl...@culture-libre.org> wrote:
>
> > Yes, please, it would be warly welcome. Sure they are not good, but still
> > it might greatly help, especially if they come with relevant timecodes.
> >
> > Kind regards
> >
> > Le 26/10/2017 à 01:07, Cornelius Kibelka a écrit :
> >
> > You can download the Youtube machine-generated subtitles, but they are
> not
> > really good (in terms of spelling, etc.). If someone is eager to review
> > them, I'm happy to upload them.
> >
> > Cheers
> > Cornelius
> >
> > On 25 October 2017 at 16:39, Asaf Bartov <asaf.bar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 11:32 PM mathieu stumpf guntz <
> >> psychosl...@culture-libre.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Great, thank you Asaf.
> >> >
> >> > Would it possible (both technically and legally) to also transfer
> >> > subtitles? They would surely need some fixes, as it's automated (I
> >> guess)
> >> > transcription , but it would probably be less workload than a
> >> transcription
> >> > from scratch. If so, I would be happy to translate it to Esperanto —
> and
> >> > the more obscure French language. ;)
> >> >
> >> It would have been possible, had there been any subtitles. It seems the
> >> YouTube version at the moment contains only machine-generated subtitles,
> >> and those are not available in the same mechanism as human-generated
> >> subtitles, so the (wonderful) video2commons tool could not import them.
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >>
> >>A.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Odisha Government's Social media accounts are now under CC-BY 4.0

2017-09-19 Thread Lane Rasberry
This is really progressive and unusual.

Years ago when The Centre for Internet & Society began focused outreach to
the Odia community I did not expect great progress and precedents. This is
a big deal beyond what I imagined could happen so quickly. Everyone
involved should be proud.

This is good for all of India even though it is for a regional language,
because it will make it for other organizations and government offices to
follow the model.

On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 8:35 AM, Tito Dutta <trulyt...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Awesome news. :)
>
>
> Thanks
> Tito Dutta
> Note: If I don't reply to your email in 2 days, please feel free to remind
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>
> On 19 September 2017 at 21:00, James Heilman <jmh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Amazing and exciting changes. Congrats :-)
> >
> > J
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 9:09 AM, Sailesh Patnaik <
> > sailesh.patnaik...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hello Everyone,
> > >
> > > I am glad to share a recent collaboration of Odia Wikipedia community
> > with
> > > the Government of Odisha.
> > >
> > > After releasing the content of 2017 Asian Athletics Championships (
> > > https://blog.wikimedia.org/2017/07/28/digest-asia-
> > athletics-championships/
> > > ) another initiative by the Government of Odisha to bridge the dearth
> of
> > > Information about Odisha on Wikipedia by releasing its social media
> > > accounts under CC-BY 4.0.
> > >
> > > Earlier this week, the community members met the Government officials
> > > regarding this, and after understanding the value of Open Content, it
> > took
> > > only 24hrs to release the social media channels under CC-BY 4.0
> license.
> > >
> > > As a pilot project, 8 social media accounts from Government of Odisha
> are
> > > under CC-BY 4.0,Now, the content is free for everyone to use, share,
> and
> > > build upon their work.
> > > https://blog.wikimedia.org/2017/09/18/odisha-social-
> media-free-license/
> > >
> > > The community is also planning to take the collaboration further and
> > > relicense some of the websites under CC-BY 4.0.
> > > --
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> > > *Sailesh Patnaik*  "*ଶୈଳେଶ ପଟ୍ଟନାୟକ "*
> > > Community Advocate, Access To Knowledge Program
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimania-l] Scholarships for people whose visa were declined

2017-08-11 Thread Lane Rasberry
This is a great idea! I was really feeling down hearing about how so many
people got denied a visa and I did not know how to respond.


On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 9:36 AM, ViswaPrabha (വിശ്വപ്രഭ) <
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> Great gesture and so much re-assuring of the spirit that's called
> Wikimedia revolution!
>
> Kudos!
> -user:Viswaprabha
>
>
> On 11 August 2017 at 19:02, Chris Keating <chriskeatingw...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Sounds very sensible!
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 2:26 PM, Andy Mabbett <a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk>
>> wrote:
>> > Katherine Maher just announced at Wikimania 2017 that all scholarship
>> > recipients who were unable to obtain a visa, will be automatically
>> > granted a scholarship for Wikimania 2018.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Let's set up a Tor onion service for Wikipedia

2017-06-13 Thread Lane Rasberry
an excellent idea and very much aligned with our
> > > > > commitment
> > > > > > to provide free information also for those who are living under
> > > > > unfavorable
> > > > > > conditions.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I personally endorse it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks Cristian for suggesting it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > Micru
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Jun 5, 2017 19:11, "Cristian Consonni" <crist...@balist.es>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> Hi,
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> I have written a proposal about setting up an onion (hidden)
> > service
> > > > to
> > > > > >> serve Wikipedia over Tor:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IdeaLab/A_Tor_
> > > > > >> Onion_Service_for_Wikipedia
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> I was thinking about this and I also discovered that the
> Internet
> > > > > >> Archive is experimenting with a very similar idea:
> > > > > >> www.hackerfactor.com/blog/index.php?/archives/750-
> > > > > >> Freedom-of-Information.html
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> I would like to have some feedback on this, I am also in contact
> > > with
> > > > > >> the author of the aforementioned proxy which could be able to
> give
> > > > some
> > > > > >> help in setting it up.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Thank you.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Cristian
> > > > > >>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Join us for a conversation with Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustee candidates

2017-05-06 Thread Lane Rasberry
Since this is live on YouTube, that also means this will be recorded and
available after, right?

Thanks.
On Fri, May 5, 2017 at 10:20 PM Samuel Klein <meta...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks ElecComm, this is great to hear.   SJ
>
> On Fri, May 5, 2017 at 9:07 PM, James Alexander <jalexan...@wikimedia.org>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi all!
> >
> > Upon request User:Matanya (from the Election Committee) will be hosting a
> > discussion with the Candidates currently running for the community spots
> on
> > the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees[1]. The conversation will take
> > place at 17:00 UTC (10:00 Pacific) on Sunday May 7th and we currently
> > expect up to 8 of the 9 Candidates to be able to attend and all
> candidates
> > attending will get equal time. If you'd like to watch you can do so on
> > Youtube[2] and a back channel will be set up for conversation on the
> > #wikimedia-office IRC channel on Freenode. We will also send a reminder
> > email to this list shortly before the event.
> >
> > I hope to see you all there!
> >
> >
> > 1.
> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_
> > elections/2017/Board_of_Trustees
> > 2. The event will be live at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AhwrJ9qcgc
> > once it starts.
> >
> > For the Election Committee,
> > James Alexander
> > Advisor
> >
> >
> > *James Alexander*
> > Manager, Trust & Safety
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] General Counsel: Welcome Eileen Hershenov

2017-04-26 Thread Lane Rasberry
Hello,

Eileen has been a great support to me at Consumer Reports in doing
Wikimedia projects with in New York City.  Many Wikimedia community members
take for granted that organizations can easily engage in Wikimedia
projects, but actually, if an organization attempts a collaboration with
Wikipedia then all sorts of unexpected challenges arise. I think that it is
great that the Wikimedia Foundation is taking a lawyer who has seen the
other side and knows what it is like to be in an organization which wishes
to do things on-wiki, but encounters barriers and has many questions.

Eileen's essential help with Wikipedia at Consumer Reports has been my
major interaction with her but I know her to be well regarded from many
perspectives. I am thrilled that the WMF has brought on someone with a long
history of advocacy in consumer nonprofit media and whose values match
those of the Wikimedia community as I understand it.

Best wishes -


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On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 9:33 AM, Katherine Maher <kma...@wikimedia.org>
wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I am writing to share some news about the leadership of our Legal
> department at the Wikimedia Foundation. Over the last eight months, we’ve
> worked to identify a permanent General Counsel for the Wikimedia
> Foundation. I am delighted to share that we have found a new General
> Counsel, Eileen Hershenov.  I am sad to say that our respected colleague
> and friend Michelle Paulson has decided this is a good time to move on to
> something new.
>
> *Michelle moving on*
>
> Michelle Paulson, who has been serving as interim General Counsel, has
> decided that after nine years it is time to move on from the Wikimedia
> Foundation. Michelle has made her mark here: she served as interim General
> Counsel twice; created our legal fellowship program, pushed to make key
> policies more user-friendly and aligned with our core values; protected the
> office, organization, and volunteers from threats; helped built a new
> Foundation public policy program; vigorously and passionately defended the
> privacy and security of our users; advocated for truly inclusive policies
> and recruiting practices; and acted as a steadfast voice and advocate for
> the values which make our movement possible.
>
> Michelle’s brilliance, humor, professionalism, and determination have
> fundamentally shaped our organization and movement. We will miss her
> immensely, and I look forward to seeing what she will achieve in the name
> of justice, equity, openness, and opportunity.
>
> *Eileen Hershenov joining our movement*
>
> Today I would like to introduce you to Eileen Hershenov, who will join us
> as General Counsel on May 8th.
>
> Eileen has nearly 30 years of experience in media and intellectual property
> law, as well as in civil rights and civil liberties law, not-for-profit law
> and governance, and privacy and cyber-security. She is passionately
> committed to values that make our movement possible: free expression,
> access to knowledge, freedom of association and an internet that embodies
> the open-source movement and that resists censorship and surveillance.
> Throughout her career, she has applied these values to her work with a
> unique focus on grassroots organizing and advocacy.
>
> Previously, Eileen served as Vice President and General Counsel for
> Consumers Union, the not-for-profit publisher of Consumer Reports magazine
> and ConsumerReports.org, for 10 years. In that role, she worked with tens
> of thousands of volunteers in the organization’s advocacy programs. Before
> Consumer Reports she spent 11 years at the Open Society Foundations, where
> she served as the General Counsel to the global foundation network,
> overseeing the legal work of the foundations in close to 40 countries
> across the globe.
>
> Eileen was also the founding general counsel for the Central European
> University,[1] the first U.S.-accredited liberal arts university located in
> a former Communist country. She has worked for the American Civil Liberties
> Union and the NOW Legal Defense Fund. Most recently, she has been working
> at Miller Korzenik Sommers Rayman LLP, a media law firm, and serving on the
> boards of a number of public interest justice organizations.
>
> *Next steps*
>
> Eileen is based in New York City, and will relocate to San Francisco with
> her family this summer. Until then, she will be commuting to the office
> starting in May to begin work with the Legal team.
>
> Transitions can feel uncertain, but I know that this movement is one that
> is welcoming and appreciative of what new c

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Board Recruitment Kick-Off: Changes to the Timeline

2017-03-17 Thread Lane Rasberry
 for the vacant and soon-to-be-vacant seats and gave
> its
> > recommendations to the Board in December 2016.
> >
> > During its December meeting, the Board decided that it hopes to find the
> > following types of experience and expertise:
> >
> >
> >1.
> >
> >Growing a global movement: apply
> ><https://boards.greenhouse.io/wikimedia/jobs/567318?gh_src=
> 3vh7tx1#.WIZGvrYrL-Y>
> >[2]
> >2.
> >
> >Engaging new communities: apply
> ><https://boards.greenhouse.io/wikimedia/jobs/567342?gh_src=
> b1ftgs1#.WIZL_FyzlP1>
> >[3]
> >3.
> >
> >Social sector governance: apply
> ><https://boards.greenhouse.io/wikimedia/jobs/567375?gh_src=
> 5gwopi1#.WIZMoFyzlP1>
> >[4]
> >
> >
> > After that Anna, Michelle, and the Communications team integrated Board
> > feedback and developed recruitment materials, which include background
> > information about the Wikimedia movement and Foundation as well as the
> > profiles describing the types of candidates we are looking for. These
> > recruitment materials can be found at: https://commons.wikimedia.org/
> > ?curid=55283092 [5].
> >
> > The Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees currently has two vacant
> > appointed seats. We also have a vacant community-selected seat, but this
> > seat will be filled through the community selection process. The Election
> > Committee, who runs the election process for community-selected seats,
> will
> > provide further information about the process and timeline at a later
> date.
> > We hope to have all three candidates join the Board no later than
> Wikimania
> > in August.
> >
> > We will begin accepting applications and referrals for these positions
> > today and will close the submission period on Monday, 06 March 2017 at
> > 17:00 PST. A more detailed timeline of the full recruitment process is
> > available on Meta here: https://meta.wikimedia.org/?curid=10176203 [6].
> >
> > Applicants may apply online at: https://wikimediafoundation.
> > org/wiki/Work_with_us#Wikimedia_Careers. We also accept applications and
> > referrals by email at board-nominati...@lists.wikimedia.org.
> >
> > Over the next six weeks, we invite you all to tell us about people who
> are
> > potentially interested in serving the Wikimedia community on the
> Wikimedia
> > Foundation Board of Trustees. And we look forward to hearing from you.
> >
> > [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_
> > Board_Governance_Committee/2016_competence_matrix
> >
> > [2] https://boards.greenhouse.io/wikimedia/jobs/567318?gh_src=
> > 3vh7tx1#.WIZMiFyzlP1
> >
> > [3] https://boards.greenhouse.io/wikimedia/jobs/567342?gh_src=
> > b1ftgs1#.WIZL_FyzlP1
> >
> > [4] https://boards.greenhouse.io/wikimedia/jobs/567375?gh_src=
> > 5gwopi1#.WIZMoFyzlP1
> >
> > [5] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:2017_Board_
> > Recruiting_Candidate_Packet.pdf
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Board Recruitment Kick-Off: Changes to the Timeline

2017-03-17 Thread Lane Rasberry
t; > > > potentially interested in serving the Wikimedia community on the
> > > Wikimedia
> > > > Foundation Board of Trustees. And we look forward to hearing from
> you.
> > > >
> > > > [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_
> > > > Board_Governance_Committee/2016_competence_matrix
> > > >
> > > > [2] https://boards.greenhouse.io/wikimedia/jobs/567318?gh_src=
> > > > 3vh7tx1#.WIZMiFyzlP1
> > > >
> > > > [3] https://boards.greenhouse.io/wikimedia/jobs/567342?gh_src=
> > > > b1ftgs1#.WIZL_FyzlP1
> > > >
> > > > [4] https://boards.greenhouse.io/wikimedia/jobs/567375?gh_src=
> > > > 5gwopi1#.WIZMoFyzlP1
> > > >
> > > > [5] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:2017_Board_
> > > > Recruiting_Candidate_Packet.pdf
> > > >
> > > > [6] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Welcoming 19 long-time Wikimedians as Coordinators for Movement strategy

2017-03-10 Thread Lane Rasberry
Congratulations to everyone.

I notice that some of these users do not have their WMF accounts connected
to their user accounts.

Would it be a problem to ask for user and work accounts to reference each
other?

Thanks,



On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 10:55 AM, Guillaume Paumier <gpaum...@wikimedia.org>
wrote:

> Hello Yaroslav,
>
> Yes, the Foundation's Community Engagement department, who are the most
> familiar with Wikimedia communities, reviewed the applications thoroughly.
> If you have concerns about a specific person, which obviously can't be
> discussed on a public list, I happy to discuss them with you privately.
>
>
> 2017-03-09 23:48 GMT-08:00 Yaroslav Blanter <ymb...@gmail.com>:
>
> > Thanks the coordinators. I do not know everybody on the list, but I
> > recognize there names of many excellent people.
> >
> > I also see there a name which has rung a bell for me, and the sound of
> the
> > bell was somewhat alarming. I checked and found indeed that the
> coordinator
> > has a sizable block log on the Russian Wikipedia, their home project, for
> > actions which include trolling and disruptive editing, and at some point
> > had to be placed under a topic ban. The most recent block is one and half
> > years ago. Which poses a natural questions whether the candidates were
> > actually screened.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Draft Code of Conduct for Technical Spaces

2017-02-21 Thread Lane Rasberry
Hello,

As of January the WMF has presented these also -

Dealing with online harassment
<
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Training_modules/Online_harassment/First_draft
>

Keeping events safe
<
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Training_modules/Keeping_events_safe/First_draft
>

I would like for whatever is adopted to match other similar proposals. So
far as I know, the technical space proposal is not compared with the
"online" proposal or the "events" proposal.

All of these are fine for informal consideration but I am not sure that now
is the time to call for final review of any of them. Votes take so much
community attention. I would be happy with any small group informally
approving any of these and circulating them slowly for a while instead of
calling for a vote just yet.

Thoughts?



On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 5:27 PM, Rogol Domedonfors <domedonf...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> This code has been under discussion at
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Code_of_Conduct/Draft since the summer
> of 2015, and is finally nearing completion.  The original consensus in 2015
> had been that the completed code would be submitted to the community for
> ratification and adoption.  However, since the end of 2015 the drafting of
> the code has largely been in the hands of a small group of WMF staff, and
> they have taken it on themselves to change that consensus and stated that
> the code will come into effect as soon as the last section is agreed, which
> will be quite soon.
>
> Do the WMF and the wider Community wish to adhere to the initial consensus,
> and put the draft code out to the comunity for adoption?  Or will the WMF
> choose to enact it on their own authority irrespective of any community
> views on the subject?
>
> If the code is to be voted on by the Community, what would be the
> appropriate venue for the vote, and where should the vote be publicised?
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: [discovery] Interactive Team putting work on pause

2017-01-25 Thread Lane Rasberry
Hello,

I have just been informed that Yuri is no longer with the WMF. I was not
aware. I think he might have left within the past 10 days, or perhaps I am
just way out of touch.

Whatever the case - that is all the more reason to seize the moment!
Brilliant people come and go in the wiki community, and when they are gone,
it becomes more difficult to access the institutional knowledge they had.
Catch people when they are presenting!

Yuri is a Wikipedian to the core and I expect him to be around as a
volunteer, but still - I wish it were easier for more people to present
their stories more often in more attractive formats, whether video,
interviews, or anything else that has a human element of reporting in it.

yours,



On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 1:39 PM, Lane Rasberry <l...@bluerasberry.com>
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> Hello,
>
> I do not know the situation with the Interactive Team but among other
> things, there is a wiki community request for better communication about
> projects. I would like to share something positive that already happens,
> and which is an opportunity for better communication going forward.
>
> I happen to live in New York City, and one of the developers on this team
> happens to live here also.
>
> Yuri Astrakhan
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Yurik>
>
> In NYC in the last year we have 1-2 administrative meetups a month for
> people to talk about coordinating Wikimedia projects. Yuri has presented at
> several of these local meetups to 200+ people total in the past few months.
> He is a great speaker who pleases audiences of developers, and audiences of
> general Wikipedians, and audiences of people who come to Wikipedia meetups
> without ever having edited any wiki before. Among others, he works on the
> projects mentioned in this email thread -
>
> <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API:Main_page>
> <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Maps>
> <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Graph>
>
> I cannot speak to the entire challenge of improving communication among
> WMF developers, the regular Wiki community like subscribers to this list,
> people who request better on-wiki documentation, and the general public,
> but I can say that I have felt that there was some loss when someone like
> Yuri is so personable, involved, and talented as a speaker and yet has
> limited opportunity to be heard. He is great in person, and when I hear
> him, I wish his presentations could be recorded and shared. Here is one
> attempt that we in NYC made to record him on Wikipedia Day, 15 January.
> <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikipedia_Day_NYC_
> Jan_15_2017_-_04_Multimedia_-_Tech_Panel.ogg>
>
> If the presentations which people like Yuri already make were recorded and
> better circulated, then perhaps some problems related to lack of
> communication would be lessened.
>
> I think there is some demand in the wiki community for more access to time
> in front of a camera to give presentations. NYC has the privilege of
> getting to hear a lot of great speakers in person. Globally at local
> meetups everywhere and even at Wikimania events, many talented people put a
> lot of labor and insight into the presentations they do. Usually those
> presentations do not persist beyond the live performance. When the
> presentation is video recorded, it usually has low quality audio and video
> that is not of the standard that many people expect from YouTube and other
> similar sites, and I think that the challenge of producing good video is
> more of a barrier to communication than lack of great presenters with
> interesting things to say. Encouraging people to do video presentations
> might not be the solution to communication challenges, but when there is
> someone who puts the work into making a great in-person presentation, then
> I wish it were easier to record and share it. I have not been satisfied
> with most of the wiki-related recordings produced, except for the most
> professional ones made with professional equipment and editing. I wish that
> there could be more video support getting more interviews and updates from
> more people at wiki events around the world.
>
> I have been very pleased with the quality of in-person, in NYC
> presentations that Yuri has shared about maps and graphs. I think that he
> and others like him would use opportunities to be interviewed and better
> presented in wiki community media, and I think that the community wants
> better in-community media coverage. I feel grateful to have heard Yuri in
> my own city and the WMF should be glad to have someone who is a developer
> and such a great speaker.
>
> yours,
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 11:11 AM, Anna Stillwell <astillw...@wikimedia.org
> > wrote:
>
>>  Hey DJ
>

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: [discovery] Interactive Team putting work on pause

2017-01-25 Thread Lane Rasberry
 team review earlier.
> >
> > 1: This is exactly the kind of communication that 'the community' keeps
> > complaining about. Reactive instead of proactive. Evasive instead of
> > transparent. Now volunteers need to spend time to figure out what is
> > happening here ? This has cost me over 3 hours today. I would have liked
> to
> > have spent that time differently.
> > 2: It shouldn't matter that Katie is on holidays, I'd assume/hope someone
> > takes over her duties while she is away (Likely Dan himself and/or Wes
> > Moran). Providing information on topics like this shouldn't have to wait
> > until someone returns from a (likely well deserved) holiday.
> > 3: Why do I have to write this email ? It's really not that hard: Make a
> > decision, explain it.
> >
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Ray Saintonge has died

2016-09-13 Thread Lane Rasberry
Editor since 2002

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/User:Eclecticology
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Eclecticology
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Ray_Saintonge,_Heathrow_Terminal_5,_20110801_P1020446.jpg
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/Board_elections/2008/Candidates/en#Ray_Saintonge_.28Eclecticology.29
https://www.ivoox.com/episode-18f-ray-saintonge-audios-mp3_rf_7274453_1.html

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> this is really sad news :(
>
> dj
>
> On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 12:00 PM, Milos Rancic <mill...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > He died yesterday. As he was an important member of our community, I
> > think we should make something appropriate so he would be remembered.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Affiliates] Changes to current chapter and thematic organisation criteria

2016-08-19 Thread Lane Rasberry
Hello,

Do these criteria apply to existing groups? Maybe I misunderstand, but from
this proposal it sounds like new groups will be held to significantly
higher standards than any currently recognized organizations. Is that the
case?

yours,


On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 8:36 AM, Carlos M. Colina <ma...@wikimedia.org.ve>
wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> On behalf of the Affiliations Committee, I would like to present some
> changes to the current chapter and thematic organisation criteria, which we
> will begin piloting as we officially reopen applications for chapter and
> thematic organization status. Until now, the criteria had not clearly
> defined what constitutes sufficient programmatic activity to justify
> chapter or thematic organisation status. To address this issue, we have set
> out three new criteria:
>
>1. Diversity of Activities: Chapters and thematic organisations are
>expected to plan and conduct a variety of different programs and events; to
>balance online and offline projects; to strive for continuous activity; and
>to conduct programs and events at least once every two months.
>2. Planning and Evaluation: Chapters and thematic organisations are
>expected to set specific goals and targets for programs, projects, and
>events before executing them; to measure the results of programs, projects,
>and events against those targets; and to report on those results to the
>Wikimedia Foundation and the wider Wikimedia movement.
>3. External Partnerships: Chapters and thematic organisations are
>expected to engage in programmatic partnerships with external groups and
>organizations (for example, cultural, academic, or government institutions,
>and so on) to promote the Wikimedia movement and to add and improve content
>on Wikimedia projects.
>
> In order to officially reopen the chapter and thematic organization
> recognition process, the Board of Trustees has instructed the Affiliations
> Committee to provisionally use these three new criteria for all new
> applicants. In addition, potential chapters and thematic organisations will
> continue to be assessed against the existing legal, governance, and
> viability criteria; more details, including the benefits and limitations of
> these affiliation models, are available on Meta.[1] [2]
>
> Please note that the use of these three new criteria is a pilot; there
> will be opportunities to share feedback about the criteria, as well as
> other ways to help define the chapter and thematic organisation affiliate
> models, during the upcoming strategy consultation. The Affiliations
> Committee and the Board of Trustees will continue to evaluate results and
> feedback during the initial pilot period and consider potential revisions
> to the criteria before they are finalized.
>
> Thank you,
> M.
>
> 1: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee/
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community Wishlist Survey: Status report #2

2016-06-01 Thread Lane Rasberry
Thanks so much.

The pageview stats tool is amazing. This saves me so much time. I like it
so much that I did my best to start documenting the concept so that other
people would not have to waste so much time like I had in the page.

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Traffic_reporting

The pageview analysis and the massviews analysis tools make it very easy to
list Wikipedia articles and a date range then get a traffic report. Almost
any Wikipedian with a partnership with an organization will need to give a
traffic report for Wikipedia articles to that organization. This tool is
fundamental to maintaining good relationships with universities, research
institutes, government agencies, publishers, and any other organization
which provides experts to review and edit Wikipedia content.

yours,

On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 12:00 PM, Toby Negrin <tneg...@wikimedia.org> wrote:

> Hi James -- the Community Tech team is growing! We just added another
> developer and we have another position in the Annual Plan. Agreed -that
> it's been really great watching this team grow and partner with the German
> chapter as well as other community members.
>
> -Toby
>
> On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 2:43 AM, James Heilman <jmh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Thanks Johan for the update. The teams are working on a lot of important
> > projects and have a mountain of requests ahead of them. Hopefully we will
> > see the Community Tech team grow in size this coming year :-)
> >
> > James
> >
> > On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 2:42 PM, Johan Jönsson <jjons...@wikimedia.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi everyone,
> > >
> > > The important part of this email is this link:
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/2015_Community_Wishlist_Survey/Status_report_2
> > >
> > > This is the second Community Wishlist Survey status report. In November
> > and
> > > December, active contributors to Wikimedia projects proposed, discussed
> > and
> > > voted on the features and fixes that they most want to see. The
> Wikimedia
> > > Foundation Community Tech team has been tasked with working on
> > > these. Additionally, Wikimedia Deutschland's Technical Wishes team has
> > been
> > > working on wishes from the German-speaking community. There's overlap
> > > between the two wishlists, and the teams are collaborating on various
> > > wishes, so this report includes progress made by both teams as well as
> > > great work being done by volunteer developers and other WMF staff.
> > >
> > > So far, we (in the broad sense) have added support for:
> > >
> > > *) Migrating dead external links to archives (but there's more work to
> be
> > > done!)
> > > *) Pageview stats
> > > *) Global notifications
> > > *) A category watchlist
> > >
> > > We're currently working on:
> > >
> > > *) Improving the plagiarism detection bot
> > > *) Improving the diff compare screen
> > > *) Numerical sorting in categories
> > > *) The possibility to add an expiry date to watchlist items
> > > *) A revision slider to help editors navigate through diff pages
> > >
> > > For more information on these projects as well as upcoming tasks, see
> the
> > > full status report on Meta:
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/2015_Community_Wishlist_Survey/Status_report_2
> > >
> > > We're looking forward to talking and working with you as we go along.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] The end

2016-05-19 Thread Lane Rasberry
Hundreds of more comments on this email thread are available at Slashdot.

<
https://news.slashdot.org/story/16/05/18/1442245/wikipedia-editor-says-sites-toxic-community-has-him-contemplating-suicide
>

On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 9:03 AM, David Emrany <david.emr...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Thanks for the input, but is there any way for your statement to be
> confirmed directly from Chris ?
>
> Online harassment and stalking is a serious Federal crime [1], and
> this episode will have to be reported to the US and Australian law
> enforcement authorities.
>
> Dave
>
> [1] "47 U.S. Code § 230 – Protection for private blocking and
> screening of offensive material"
> https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/47/230
>
> On 5/18/16, David Gerard <dger...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On 17 May 2016 at 13:44, Chris Sherlock <chris.sherloc...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> I've just been blocked forever. I've been bullied, and I'm having
> suicidal
> >> thoughts.
> >
> >
> > Followup: Chris is fine :-)  All is well. He's quite touched at how
> > many people rallied around to help him. Mostly he's a bit embarrassed
> > about just how many people this email went out to, but he's pretty
> > public about his depressive illness in order that others will be less
> > shy.
> >
> > He wants you to know: "Please tell anyone else who has similar
> > suicidal feelings that life is wonderful and it's worth every painful
> > and wonderful moment."
> >
> > Also I told him to put 127.0.0.1 en.wikipedia.org in /etc/hosts ;-)
> >
> >
> > - d.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] election for 2 seats on WMF board of trustees ends May 7...

2016-05-04 Thread Lane Rasberry
@Andreas -

I am serving as an election facilitator in this process. That means I
volunteer to organize the election, but not that I have any rank or power
to set rules or to interpret the process. I have read what I can, and
talked to people, and I can probably answer easy questions about the
election and the nature of the board. I cannot give any authoritative
answer to deep questions like the one you asked.

My perspective is that no one can directly answer your question - not even
the WMF board itself. Whatever else the WMF board is legally, it is also
accountable to the Wikimedia community and must align itself to Wikimedia
community culture every three years or otherwise it seems positioned
because of this election structure to be completely replaced with radical
quickness. If the WMF board takes a position that conflicts with the
Wikimedia community then it could be elected out if the community wants to
correct the perspective. There are no other institutions like this anywhere
that elect 5 of ten board members then appoint the other 4, and have no
permanent touchstone with the board or institution itself. The board was
designed to be elected by Wikimedia community control from inception - 3
directly elected, 2 by authorized organizations, and those 5 appoint
another 4 and they better make a choice the community likes to fulfill
election promises.

If I were to answer your question, I would say to call this process an
election. It was intended to be an election at its founding. The community
of voting organizations and Wikimedia community stakeholders perceive it as
an election, even if some individuals have questions. The nature of the
board is to originate from elected approval from the Wikimedia community
and their closely watched representatives. People can imagine nuance in the
word "election" if they like but I do not know of a better word to call
this than "election". I think it is good to call the community selected
members "elected", despite what happened, and good for the community to
keep rather than divest the power it has always recognized and claimed to
elect the WMF board.

The reason why it is hard to answer your question is because you are asking
a legal question, and Wikimedia processes are designed to be human
understandable even if less legally precise. In human terms, "election" is
what this is called and how it should be imagined. I do not think that
anyone benefits from trying to legally analyze this and instead people
should emphasize the humanity of the process and build the precedent of
what this means in simple, human terms that everyone accepts as a cultural
norm. "Election"

yours,





On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 8:36 AM, Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijs...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hoi,
> There is a difference between your formality and what actually happens. The
> board is unlikely to not accept a chosen representative. I wonder if it
> ever did. Given the quality of the people who can be chosen from, do you
> really expect this to happen and consequently what is it what you want to
> achieve except for airing your formality?
> Thanks,
>   GerardM
>
>
> On 4 May 2016 at 12:58, Andreas Kolbe <jayen...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 12:43 PM, Lane Rasberry <l...@bluerasberry.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > As of now, 13 of 42 eligible organizations have voted in the 2016
> > chapters'
> > > election for 2 of 10 Wikimedia Foundation seats on the board of
> trustees.
> > >
> >
> >
> > Lane,
> >
> > A procedural question: Is the chapters' vote binding on the board, or is
> it
> > the same as for the three community board seats, where the community
> > members selected in the community vote are merely recommendations that
> the
> > sitting board is free to accept or reject?
> >
> > If the winners' actually joining the board is dependent on the sitting
> > board's approval of these candidates, then it's not really a chapter
> > "election" for those board seats: it would be more precise to speak of
> the
> > chapters' vote as a vote to identify chapter-recommended candidates for
> > those two board seats.
> >
> > While that's more clunky – if that's what it really is, then I think it's
> > important that we use language that accurately reflects the process by
> > which community- and chapter-selected candidates end up on the board.
> >
> > Best,
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] election for 2 seats on WMF board of trustees ends May 7...

2016-05-03 Thread Lane Rasberry
It is possible to self disclose now - it is a wiki. The problem is that
there is no table set up for anyone to do it, and then it is confusing to
tell people to report in two places.

We could ask now, "who wants to self-disclose?" then copy those votes into
a public space.

The ideal way would be to have a way to note intent to self disclose in the
one voting location, then anyone on the chapters wiki could report those
votes publicly. I think it is too much to ask to have voting organizations
take more than one action to vote. I do not want voting to be complicated.

On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 8:09 AM, John Mark Vandenberg <jay...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 7:03 PM, Lane Rasberry <l...@bluerasberry.com>
> wrote:
> >..
> > For the next election (in three years) I will propose a change. I want it
> > to be easier for chapters to self-report their votes in a public way, if
> > they choose to do so. Even if the election is closed, enough individual
> > chapters seem to want to self-disclose.
>
> This is a bit odd.  I vaguely remember that in previous years that
> some chapters held discussions with their members online, and publicly
> published the chapter decision before it was recorded on chapters
> wiki.  Is that no longer possible?
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] election for 2 seats on WMF board of trustees ends May 7...

2016-05-03 Thread Lane Rasberry
Or - I could be wrong. Should the list of voting chapters be reported? What
is the correct interpretation of closed voting in this case?

On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 8:03 AM, Lane Rasberry <l...@bluerasberry.com> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I am unable to report which chapters voted. The voting process is closed.
> Right now I have to recommend encouraging all chapters to vote.
>
> The election rules are decided by chapters and chapters have said closed
> election. I do not think this was a well-discussed rule, but whatever the
> case, it cannot be changed by the community and needs to be changed by
> chapters. Community discussion could influence it. I think that it is a
> rule that could change. Asking chapters to have open voting could be
> another reason to contact chapters, or open voting might be a problem - I
> am not sure.
>
> Even if voting were not completely open, there could be other kinds of
> openness, like just a list of who voted. Right now, I cannot provide that.
> Any chapter can look at the list and see who voted and who did not.
>
> For the next election (in three years) I will propose a change. I want it
> to be easier for chapters to self-report their votes in a public way, if
> they choose to do so. Even if the election is closed, enough individual
> chapters seem to want to self-disclose.
>
> yours,
>
>
>
> On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 7:50 AM, Andrew Gray <andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Lane,
>>
>> While I agree that it's good for people to encourage their
>> chapters/other organizations to vote, we would need to know whether
>> they've voted before doing this...
>>
>> As far as I can see, the voting is entirely done on chapterswiki -
>> which is fair enough, and it's reasonable to have this semi-private.
>> However, it means that the only people who can tell if a given chapter
>> has voted or not are people closely associated with the chapters, who
>> presumably already know whether they've voted or not.
>>
>> Would it be possible to have a public list of which organizations have
>> voted and which ones have yet to do so? I don't think this would
>> materially affect the confidentiality of the vote itself, and it might
>> help encourage some groups to actually vote.
>>
>> Andrew.
>>
>> On 3 May 2016 at 12:43, Lane Rasberry <l...@bluerasberry.com> wrote:
>> > Hello,
>> >
>> > As of now, 13 of 42 eligible organizations have voted in the 2016
>> chapters'
>> > election for 2 of 10 Wikimedia Foundation seats on the board of
>> trustees.
>> > In the last election, 1/3 of organizations did not vote. Anyone who
>> wishes
>> > to influence the election could do so by asking sleepier chapters to
>> vote
>> > by the May 7 end of election.
>> >
>> > Feel free also to pressure more active chapters to do their duty to
>> support
>> > less organized chapters in voting. Support can mean having
>> > chapter-to-chapter encouragement to vote. All chapters appreciate being
>> > reminded. All eligible organizations are supposed to vote. The election
>> > result is more sound with more votes.
>> >
>> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliate-selected_Board_seats/2016
>> >
>> > yours,
>> >
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] election for 2 seats on WMF board of trustees ends May 7...

2016-05-03 Thread Lane Rasberry
Hello,

I am unable to report which chapters voted. The voting process is closed.
Right now I have to recommend encouraging all chapters to vote.

The election rules are decided by chapters and chapters have said closed
election. I do not think this was a well-discussed rule, but whatever the
case, it cannot be changed by the community and needs to be changed by
chapters. Community discussion could influence it. I think that it is a
rule that could change. Asking chapters to have open voting could be
another reason to contact chapters, or open voting might be a problem - I
am not sure.

Even if voting were not completely open, there could be other kinds of
openness, like just a list of who voted. Right now, I cannot provide that.
Any chapter can look at the list and see who voted and who did not.

For the next election (in three years) I will propose a change. I want it
to be easier for chapters to self-report their votes in a public way, if
they choose to do so. Even if the election is closed, enough individual
chapters seem to want to self-disclose.

yours,



On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 7:50 AM, Andrew Gray <andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk>
wrote:

> Hi Lane,
>
> While I agree that it's good for people to encourage their
> chapters/other organizations to vote, we would need to know whether
> they've voted before doing this...
>
> As far as I can see, the voting is entirely done on chapterswiki -
> which is fair enough, and it's reasonable to have this semi-private.
> However, it means that the only people who can tell if a given chapter
> has voted or not are people closely associated with the chapters, who
> presumably already know whether they've voted or not.
>
> Would it be possible to have a public list of which organizations have
> voted and which ones have yet to do so? I don't think this would
> materially affect the confidentiality of the vote itself, and it might
> help encourage some groups to actually vote.
>
> Andrew.
>
> On 3 May 2016 at 12:43, Lane Rasberry <l...@bluerasberry.com> wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > As of now, 13 of 42 eligible organizations have voted in the 2016
> chapters'
> > election for 2 of 10 Wikimedia Foundation seats on the board of trustees.
> > In the last election, 1/3 of organizations did not vote. Anyone who
> wishes
> > to influence the election could do so by asking sleepier chapters to vote
> > by the May 7 end of election.
> >
> > Feel free also to pressure more active chapters to do their duty to
> support
> > less organized chapters in voting. Support can mean having
> > chapter-to-chapter encouragement to vote. All chapters appreciate being
> > reminded. All eligible organizations are supposed to vote. The election
> > result is more sound with more votes.
> >
> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliate-selected_Board_seats/2016
> >
> > yours,
> >
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[Wikimedia-l] election for 2 seats on WMF board of trustees ends May 7...

2016-05-03 Thread Lane Rasberry
Hello,

As of now, 13 of 42 eligible organizations have voted in the 2016 chapters'
election for 2 of 10 Wikimedia Foundation seats on the board of trustees.
In the last election, 1/3 of organizations did not vote. Anyone who wishes
to influence the election could do so by asking sleepier chapters to vote
by the May 7 end of election.

Feel free also to pressure more active chapters to do their duty to support
less organized chapters in voting. Support can mean having
chapter-to-chapter encouragement to vote. All chapters appreciate being
reminded. All eligible organizations are supposed to vote. The election
result is more sound with more votes.

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliate-selected_Board_seats/2016

yours,

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Access and Participation in the ASBS

2016-03-11 Thread Lane Rasberry
Nataliia,

You asked the WMF to fund and commission translations for the election.

I am not the WMF and do not know what they might think, but I wanted to
carry on the conversation. One part of your concern that I would like to
address is pricing. You suggested that for a small amount of money,
translation could be done of election writings. You say, "If WMF refuses, I
am going to use my own money [5], it costs 150 UAH (around 6 USD) to have a
page translated".

The active Wikipedia community needs perhaps 10-25 languages, and maybe we
could select 15. If we hired a translation service for this amount of text
and that many languages, the cost I would expect is not less than USD
$75,000. I think that if we discuss your request, we should begin by
imagining it as a request for $75,000 to go to a translation company. I am
not sure why you mentioned a $6 price. This would not be inexpensive.

Can you please clarify how much money you are proposing be spent on
translation?

yours,


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[Wikimedia-l] last day to nominate for 2 seats on WMF board of trustees...

2016-03-07 Thread Lane Rasberry
Hello,

The board of trustees for the Wikimedia Foundation has 10 seats. The office
holders for 2 of these 10 seats will be selected in the "2016
affiliate-selected board seats" process described at
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliate-selected_Board_seats/2016>

For a candidate to be considered in this election, they must be nominated
by 8 March and endorsed by a voting Wikimedia organizational affiliate by
23 March.

If anyone has any nomination to make, we are now in the last day!
Nominations must be made by the end of 8 March! Make a nomination for
yourself or another person at
<
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliate-selected_Board_seats/2016/Nominations
>

For those making a nomination, please follow up by soliciting for
endorsement of the nomination from one voting organization. That
endorsement must be posted by 23 March. Candidates in the election must be
nominated by the end of March 8 and must have their endorsement by 23 March.

Beyond nomination, please participate in the election by encouraging all
organizations which are eligible to vote to cast their vote later during
the voting period.

Thanks - and forgive me if I misspoke in any part of this. I am anxious
about writing correctly and clearly. The official election documentation is
on-wiki.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Crowdfunding campaign for User:Rehman

2016-02-27 Thread Lane Rasberry
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Crowdfunding>

On Sat, Feb 27, 2016 at 9:05 AM, Azeez Abubakr <azeez.abub...@live.com>
wrote:

> Hello everyone,
>
> Cross-posting User:Odder's message from Commons VP:
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Village_pump#Crowdfunding_campaign_for_Rehman
>
> 
> Hi everyone, just as I did with the crowdfunding campaign for Jee,
>  I think it important to let you know that a crowdfunding campaign is
> currently running to support one of our contributors, photographers and
> administrators, Rehman; Azeez is the organiser and author of a truly
> fabulous video presenting Rehman's work on energy-related subjects in Sri
> Lanka. The campaign is being run on Indiegogo's Generosity site, and was
> co-ordinated at User talk:Rehman/Campaign
>  (in case anyone wants to comment). I'm sure that Rehman will deeply
> appreciate even the tiniest of donations, if anyone is willing to
> support his campaign. odder (talk) 22:07, 25 February 2016 (UTC)
> 
>
> Thank you,
> User:Azeez
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Transition plans for WMF leadership - Board Reform

2016-02-23 Thread Lane Rasberry
Hello,

Could I remind you all that there is a board election in progress right now
for 2 of the 10 seats? Please see details for the 2016 Affiliate-selected
board seats election at
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliate-selected_Board_seats/2016>

Amir, you said that you wanted representation from "India, China, Russia,
Iran, Brazil, Korea, Vietnam, Philippines, Indonesia, Arab countries and
finally, all of Africa". If you like, you may encourage anyone from those
countries to seek a nomination. Also, it would be very helpful if you could
encourage the Wikimedia chapters in those countries to participate in the
election in any way that they could, especially by planning to vote during
the upcoming voting period.

Thyge - we do have a sort of house of representatives and it has a board
election happening right now.

Nominations for the board are open till March 8! Election starts March 24!
Please share the message.

Thanks - if anyone has questions post on the election page.

yours,



On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 9:47 AM, Yaroslav M. Blanter <pute...@mccme.ru>
wrote:

> On 2016-02-23 14:54, Thyge wrote:
>
>> We should not have direct elections to the board. We should have a "house
>> of representatives" with X members from each part of the world and charged
>> with electing the board and decide major issues like location of the WMF,
>> changed of bylaws etc.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Thyge
>>
>>
> I do not think it could solve the diversity issue.
>
> To appoint the number of individuals with a set of skills and needed
> diversity, one needs candidates which will have needed skills and desired
> diversity to start with.
>
> Our experience as a movement (and also of people in other organizations in
> different contexts) that these people do not always queue at the doors of
> the WMF office to wait for being elected. They need to be scouted,
> negotiated with, and convinced to be willing to sit at the board. This is
> what currently various companies are paid to do, and this seems to be a
> reasonable arrangement to me.
>
> As far as the candidates are there, I do not see much of a difference
> whether the community, a selected group (like house of representatives), or
> the Board votes for them. And as soon as there is no difference there is
> also no need to make the structure more complicated. I thus conclude that
> this House of representatives is not needed for the Board elections.
>
> (It might be needed for other things, which are outside the scope of this
> discussion).
>
>
> Cheers
> Yaroslav
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Call for Candidates - Affiliate Selected members of the WMF Board

2016-02-19 Thread Lane Rasberry
Risker, SJ, Pete, and others -

Help! This election is what people make of it. It might be the case that
many people concerned about Wikimedia governance do not even realize what
is at stake in this election. There has recently been a lot of discussion
about the board of trustees. In this election, there will be turnover of
two seats. If anyone has ideas for getting chapters more involved in the
election then please get anyone involved in any way that you can.

SJ in response to your questions

   1. So far as I know no one has contacted chapters directly. I would like
   for every chapter to take responsibility for contacting a few others and
   confirming that they are engaged in the election. It would be difficult to
   centrally manage communication with everyone. Do you know anyone at any
   chapter that you could ask to have their chapter discuss the election with
   a few others?
   2. I do not expect anyone to contribute to the election questions.
   Anyone may. Last election there were four candidates and only about 2/3 of
   chapters voted, so perhaps the votes were cast by personal connections. My
   personal perspective is that a lively election discussion has not
   historically happened. One could happen this time - if you can encourage
   anyone to start one then please do so.

Anne -

   1. Yes there are three white males on the election committee. If you
   identify someone else who wants the role then please have them contact me
   and I will advocate that the election committee give them my position if
   you think diversity is useful. There is nothing that I am doing in this
   role that I could not do outside of it, and I feel that any non-white male
   in this role would get no particular privilege to do anything they could
   not otherwise, but just the same, consider my position open for anyone who
   wants it. I would coach my replacement.
   2. I care less about the characteristics of candidates and more about
   the characteristics of voting organizations. I want every organization with
   a vote to vote, and if you can think of a way to encourage more
   organizations to vote, then share. I want the inactive chapters to vote
   even if they have not had wiki-engagement for years. Election success from
   my perspective is the highest possible vote rate and the most communication
   among chapters to encourage each other to vote and to discuss how they will
   vote. If possible, I would like every voting organization to give a
   statement describing how they decided their vote, but that is left to the
   chapter to share as they like and I think it would be unfair to pressure
   anyone to do this. In some cases voting might mean one person cast the vote
   without consulting with others, and in other cases it might mean that there
   was an effort to get opinions from a large chapter membership. Whatever the
   case, I want all organizations to vote, and I would prefer that chapters
   look to each other and think about everyone else's vote process.

Everyone - feel free to speak up if you want election assistance!

yours,




On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 11:07 PM, Sam Klein <sjkl...@hcs.harvard.edu> wrote:

> Lane writes:
> > Can you please contact any Wikimedia chapter and ask them to request
> > nominations?
>
> Ok.  I take it they have already been emailed directly?  And each chapter
> can handle this however they like?
>
> > Get any chapter to make any request for whatever kind of person they
> > would nominate, then maybe they can call for whatever they want.
>
> Where should they do this – on Meta somewhere, on this list, on the private
> chapters mailing list? Is there somewhere they can see wishlists others
> have proposed?
>
> This questions page does not shed much light; who is expected to contribute
> to it?
>
>
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliate-selected_Board_seats/2016/Questions
>
>
>
> ===
> Risker writes:
> > Well, I was interpreting SJ's question to be directed to everyone who is
> > involved in this election, not just the three election coordinators.
>
> Yes.  And +1 to your other comments.
>
> I think the selection process would benefit from the affiliates considering
> & sharing what is on their wishlist for candidates, before nominations are
> closed.  If the facilitators can help make this happen, all the better.
>
>
> ===
> > Ask questions everywhere. This is a wiki election and should proceed in
> > wiki style.
>
> ++ Good, that's why I asked in the first place.  Feel free to migrate this
> discussion elsewhere.
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Call for Candidates - Affiliate Selected members of the WMF Board

2016-02-18 Thread Lane Rasberry
SJ,

Can you please contact any Wikimedia chapter and ask them to request
nominations?

There are two criteria for nominations - one is that their name has to be
posted on the nomination page, and the other is that a Wikimedia chapter
has to support their nomination.
<
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliate-selected_Board_seats/2016/Nominations
>

Get any chapter to make any request for whatever kind of person they would
nominate, then maybe they can call for whatever they want.

Going into more detail - the traditional duties of a board member are that
they approve the annual budget and oversee an organization's executive
director. That could mean anything, but such as it is, this is the role
description.

The election belongs to the chapters. My request would be that anyone get
chapters engaged in any way possible, from discussing nominations, to
talking now about what kind of person they would elect, to planning
questions to ask before and during the election, and to plan how to choose
how each organizations vote will be cast in such a way that it reflects the
desire of chapter members.

All Wikimedia chapters are encouraged to request the involvement of all
other Wikimedia chapters in this election. 2 of 10 seats of the board of
trustees will be chosen.

Ask questions everywhere. This is a wiki election and should proceed in
wiki style.

yours,



On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 8:48 PM, Samuel Klein <meta...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear Chris and all,
>
> What sorts of candidates are you looking for?  How are you directing your
> search / how can we best help get the word to people who might be good
> candidates?  What do you see as the skills or other qualities the a Trustee
> needs, or that would be effective on the Board?
>
> The FAQ says little about nominations, and the nomination form is also
> extremely generic.  Given the current difficulties around strategy &
> governance, more detail seems called for.
>
> Warmly,
> Sam
>
> On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 4:29 AM, Chris Keating <chriskeatingw...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Dear Wikimedia friends,
> >
> > **Call for Nominations - Affiliate Selected Board Seats**
> >
> > This year the Wikimedia chapters and Thematic Organisations will select
> two
> > members of the Wikimedia Foundation Board.
> >
> > We would like to invite nominations for candidates to be elected to the
> WMF
> > board in this process.  Please help us by distributing this call for
> > candidates as widely as possible through such forums as mailing lists,
> > village pumps, and blogs.
> >
> > *Role of WMF Board members*
> >
> > The Wikimedia Foundation board provide governance and strategic oversight
> > of the WMF. The role of Wikimedia Foundation board members is set out in
> > detail here: https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Board_member
> >
> > Successful candidates will bring expertise and understanding to help the
> > Board further its goals and ability to work effectively at a strategic
> and
> > governance level. The work of the Board is conducted in English (though
> > fluency in additional languages is an advantage) and the role involves a
> > significant commitment, including travel to several in-person meetings in
> > California or worldwide.
> >
> > *Nominations and selection process*
> >
> > Nominations should be posted using this form on Meta-Wiki:
> >
> >
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliate-selected_Board_seats/2016/Nominations
> >
> > If you need assistance completing the wiki-template, please contact one
> of
> > the election facilitators who will be happy to assist.
> >
> > Nominations are open until the end of 8 March 2016 (midnight UTC). To be
> > entered into the ballot, a candidate's nomination must be accompanied by
> a
> > statement of support from a Chapter or Thematic Organisation, which may
> > accompany the nomination or be received no later than 22 March 2016.
> >
> > The timeline for the selection process can be seen here:
> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliate-selected_Board_seats/2016
> >
> > There is also a selection FAQ here:
> >
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliate-selected_Board_seats_election_FAQ
> >
> >  Many thanks,
> >
> > Chris Keating
> > Lorenzo Losa
> > Lane Rasberry
> > - Election Facilitators
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Meta is apparently down

2016-01-26 Thread Lane Rasberry
And Commons.

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> https://meta.wikimedia.org/
>
> Thanks,
> Pharos
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Meta is apparently down

2016-01-26 Thread Lane Rasberry
"Looks like some new code went wonky (needless to say). Operations is aware
and working on reverting it. Everyone take deep breaths and hug a kitten
while we wait for them to fix things! Kbrown (WMF)
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Kbrown_%28WMF%29> "
<
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_%28technical%29#WM_Commons_and_Meta_seem_to_be_redirecting_to_the_WMF_site
>

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> Also Commons, and anything else at *.wikimedia.org. Apparently, "Bad
> deployment, being reverted currently."
>
> Thanks,
> Mike
>
> > On 26 Jan 2016, at 18:44, Pharos <pharosofalexand...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/
> >
> > Thanks,
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF Board of Trustees

2015-12-28 Thread Lane Rasberry
I hope that the WMF board and James are able to collaborate a bit further
to give an explanation of the cause of this, and that the explanation given
is to the mutual satisfaction of both the board and James.

I presume that the current notice of dismissal without explanation is not
the explanation that pleases all those involved in this.

yours,

On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 5:43 PM, James Heilman <jmh...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Dec 28th 2015 I was removed from the board of the Wikimedia Foundation.
> Many thanks to all those who gave me their support during the last
> election. I have worked in the last six month to honor the trust placed in
> me by advocating for our values, communities, and projects.
>
> Sincerely
> James Heilman
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community Wishlist Survey: Top 10 wishes!

2015-12-16 Thread Lane Rasberry
ikimedia Developer Summit in the first week of January. We're
> planning
> > to talk about the preliminary assessment there, and then share it more
> > widely.
> >
> > If you're eager to follow the whole process as we go along, we'll be
> > documenting and keeping notes in two places:
> >
> > On Meta: 2015 Community Wishlist Survey/Top 10:
> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/2015_Community_Wishlist_Survey/Top_10
> >
> > On Phabricator: Community Wishlist Survey board:
> > https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/community-wishlist-survey/
> >
> > Finally: What about the other 97 proposals?
> >
> > There were a lot of good and important proposals that didn't happen to
> get
> > quite as many support votes, and I'm sure everybody has at least one that
> > they were rooting for. Again, the whole list is here:
> >
> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/2015_Community_Wishlist_Survey/Results
> >
> > We're going to talk with the other Wikimedia product teams, to see if
> they
> > can take on some of the ideas the the community has expressed interest
> in.
> > We're also going to work with the Developer Relations team to see if some
> > of these could be taken on by volunteer developers.
> >
> > It's also possible that Community Tech could take on a small-scale,
> > well-defined proposal below the top 10, if it doesn't interfere with our
> > commitments to the top 10 wishes.
> >
> > So there's lots of work to be done, and hooray, we have a whole year to
> do
> > it. If this process turns out to be a success, then we plan to do another
> > survey at the end of 2016, to give more people a chance to participate,
> and
> > bring more great ideas.
> >
> > For everybody who proposed, endorsed, discussed, debated and voted in the
> > survey, as well as everyone who said nice things to us recently: thank
> you
> > very much for coming out and supporting live feature development. We're
> > excited about the work ahead of us.
> >
> > We'd also like to thank Wikimedia Deutschland's Technischer
> Communitybedarf
> > team -- they came up with this whole survey process, and they've been
> > working successfully on lots of community wishes since their first survey
> > in 2013.
> >
> > You can watch this page for further Community Tech announcements:
> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Tech/News
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Danny Horn
> > Product Manager, WMF Community Tech
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] In Solidarity with Library Genesis and Sci-hub

2015-12-01 Thread Lane Rasberry
Hello,

I felt strongly enough about Wikipedia's relationship with open access
content that I wrote about the issue.
<
http://bluerasberry.com/2015/10/wikipedia-open-access-and-the-wikipedia-library/
>

yours,

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> For what it's worth, we had a panel discussion at WMF about this, with Open
> Access advocates and staff from WMF. Freely licensed video of the session
> is available on YouTube. See here for video links:
> http://wikistrategies.net/oa-Wikipedia-panel/
>
> One of our panelists, John Dove, wrote a follow-up blog post; others are in
> the works.
>
> Pete
> [[User: Peteforsyth]]
>
> https://blog.wikimedia.org/2015/11/12/open-access-in-closed-access-world/
> On Nov 30, 2015 6:33 PM, "Milos Rancic" <mill...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > May we actually stop having anything with these pest?
> >
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Imminent block of access to Wikipedia in Russia

2015-08-24 Thread Lane Rasberry
I wonder if this is related to the recent blocking of reddit.


http://www.vocativ.com/news/221534/the-story-behind-russias-reddit-shutdown/


On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 6:28 PM, Romaine Wiki romaine.w...@gmail.com
wrote:

 To me the basic step in such a case like this is translating the article
 about the agency in more languages, so that people can get more background
 information. The article:

 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Service_for_Supervision_in_the_Sphere_of_Telecom,_Information_Technologies_and_Mass_Communications

 Creating awareness starts with having a good article about the organisation
 in question.

 Romaine

 2015-08-24 17:24 GMT+02:00 Yaroslav M. Blanter pute...@mccme.ru:

  Today, the Russian Federal Service for Supervision in the Sphere of
  Telecom, Information Technologies and Mass Communications instructed all
  Russian internet providers to block all user access to Wikipedia. All
  involved parties are aware of the development. I am not sure whether only
  ru.wikipedia.org will be blocked, or all WMF projects. In the latter
  case, if you are going to travel to Russia, you will need to gen an IP
  exempt flag in advance in the projects you are going to edit.
 
  Cheers
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [tangential] Dutch universities start Elsevier boycott plan

2015-07-02 Thread Lane Rasberry
This is one legacy of
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cost_of_Knowledge

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 https://universonline.nl/2015/07/02/dutch-universities-start-their-elsevier-boycott-plan

 This is pretty big news.

 (and in conclusion, Elsevier delenda est.)


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Re: [Wikimedia-l] CAPTCHA issues discouraging new editors

2015-06-18 Thread Lane Rasberry
Hello,

I confirm that the CAPTCHA has problems.

When someone is asked to do one, it is not clear why, and there is a
strange and non-intuitive disconnect between saving the article initially,
entering the CAPTCHA, and saving again. It is hard to explain but something
odd happens in Wikipedia that does not happen in other websites with other
CAPTCHAs- text is not clear and there is an extra step which seems
extraneous.

I also consistently encounter this problem in outreach to new users. The
problem is related to new users submitting external links.

yours,



On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 10:22 AM, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk
wrote:

 [I'm posting this here because although the experiences described
 relate to en.WP, I'm sure it applies to other projects as well]


 I have trained over 100 people to edit Wikipedia this year; in around
 a dozen different sessions.

 Not a single session has occurred, when someone has not had a problem
 with our CAPTCHA interface. Often, several editors in a single sesison
 are confused.

 A user saves an edit, and the system responds with the requirement for
 them to complete a CAPTCHA .

 Sometimes, they do not realise what has happened (the paragraphs
 beginning with the words Your edit includes new external links...
 seem insufficiently prominent), or they do not understand what is
 being asked of them (what words are they being asked to retype?), or
 they do not see the very small box where they are supposed to enter
 the CAPTCHA (on my screen, in Firefox and signed out, it is
 pre-populated with Enter the words yc, where the c is half of a
 letter o).

 Naturally I am then able to assist them, but a user editing alone may
 simply abandon the task in frustration.

 I urge each of you to try this, by editing while logged out

 I suggest the WMF conduct some urgent usability tests around this
 feature, and either redesign or remove it.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Research question - page views : Google ranking

2015-05-15 Thread Lane Rasberry
Hello,

Based on its search engine ranking and page view statistics, the English
Wikipedia is a prominent source of online health information compared to
the other online health information providers studied.

Laurent, M. R.; Vickers, T. J. (2009). Seeking Health Information Online:
Does Wikipedia Matter?
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2705249. *Journal of the
American Medical Informatics Association* *16* (4): 471–479. doi
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_object_identifier:
10.1197/jamia.M3059 https://dx.doi.org/10.1197%2Fjamia.M3059. PMC
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PubMed_Central 2705249
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2705249. PMID
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PubMed_Identifier 19390105
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19390105.

yours,

On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 12:01 PM, Anthony Cole ahcole...@gmail.com wrote:

 Does anyone here know if any research has been done relating Wikipedia
 article daily page views to their Google ranking? I'm particularly
 interested in medical articles, but any topic or an average sample would
 interesting too.

 Anthony Cole http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Anthonyhcole
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimediameta-l] Bye

2015-02-24 Thread Lane Rasberry
Hello,

On English Wikipedia I have met with resistance in documenting crowdfunding
projects. I would like clarity on the extent to which the Wikimedia
community feels that it is acceptable to discuss crowdfunding in Wikimedia
community information channels.

I posted about this on the talk page

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Crowdfunding#User_banned_for_discussing_crowdfunding


If [[WP:CROWDFUNDING]], which is mostly blanked pending a community
discussion of whether crowdfunding can be mentioned.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Crowdfunding

yours,



On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 9:35 AM, Cristian Consonni kikkocrist...@gmail.com
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 2015-02-24 14:55 GMT+01:00 Nathan nawr...@gmail.com:
  On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 3:59 PM, John Mark Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  Which email ? the crowdfunding email?
  Austin, do the list admins have another perspective to justify their
  action?

 [...]
  I'd like the answer to this question too.

 It does seem the crowdfunding e-mail, also the original e-mail was
 crossposted to Commons-l and WIkimedia-l. Possibly Nemo overlooked
 this, but anyway I do not think this is a good reason to put someone
 in the moderation list.
 If this was the rationale, this action should be undone.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] edited mercilessly

2014-12-03 Thread Lane Rasberry
Hello,

This text has been a part of the five pillars for a long time.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Five_pillars

Wikipedia is free content that anyone can use, edit, and distribute: Since
all editors freely license their work to the public, no editor owns an
article and any contributions can and will be mercilessly edited and
redistributed. Respect copyright laws, and never plagiarize from sources.
Borrowing non-free media is sometimes allowed as fair use, but strive to
find free alternatives first.

yours,

On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 8:15 AM, Andrew Gray andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk
wrote:

 I remember edited mercilessly as well...

 The current message is from
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Editpage-head-copy-warn and
 dates from 2012. I wonder if this was changed when the ToU came in?

 An unscientific hint is that posters to the Wikimedia mailing lists
 more or less stopped using mercilessly in 2009 ;-)

 Andrew.

 On 3 December 2014 at 13:11, Amir E. Aharoni
 amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il wrote:
  ... Oh, actually now I see at the top of the English Wikipedia source
  editing page: Work submitted to Wikipedia can be edited, used, and
  redistributed—by anyone—subject to certain terms and conditions.
 
  As far I recall, however, it was near the Save button, and it definitely
  said something more hard-core, like it will be edited mercilessly.
 
  And I can't find anything like that in the Visual Editor.
 
 
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  I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬
 
  2014-12-03 15:08 GMT+02:00 Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il
 :
 
  Hi,
 
  I have a vague recollection that when I started editing the English
  Wikipedia ten years ago, there was a notice near the Save button, which
  said something like this: Your changes will be edited mercilessly.
 
  I remember similar notices in other languages as well, though even more
  vaguely.
 
  I don't see it now. I checked English, Hebrew and Russian.
 
  Does anybody know why was it removed? Did the editors communities just
  decide independently to remove it for whatever reason? If it was, I'd
 love
  to see links to discussions if anybody has them. Or was it a design
  decision by the Foundation?
 
  Thanks!
 
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia France] WikiCheese crowdfunding - Let's photograph 'em all

2014-11-25 Thread Lane Rasberry
Two other people are doing this right now also! Is this a coincidence?


https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2056561545/tonythetiger-wikipedian-for-the-world-tttwftw


https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1990377981/creative-commons-camera

yours,

On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 4:09 AM, Christophe Henner 
christophe.hen...@gmail.com wrote:

 So on the wine project, the issue is we would have to target wines bottled
 before 1900, just to be quite sure there's no copyright issue on the wine
 bottles labels.

 Having said that, you could imagine the price we'd have to pay to run that
 project.

 On Twitter, last night, another wikimedian had a great idea. He suggested
 that we would buy a mass spectrometer so we could digitaly record the smell
 of the cheeses. Everyone could enjoy how smelly some are



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 On 25 November 2014 at 09:59, Jon Davies jon.dav...@wikimedia.org.uk
 wrote:

  And next the wine project? Count me in.
 
  On 24 November 2014 at 18:22, Christophe Henner 
  christophe.hen...@gmail.com
   wrote:
 
   Good news everyone,
  
   Cheese articles are gonna get improved!
  
   As french, it was dreadful for us to see so few illustrations of cheese
  on
   Wikipedia. This is about to change.
  
   A group of french Wikimedians, lead by Pierre-Yves Beaudouin, designed
 a
   project to photograph many cheeses, up to 200 for the moment.
  
   This project is perticular as we aim to have it found through a french
   crowdfunding platform, KissKissBankBank.
  
   Of course Wikimedia France could have funded it itself, but we wanted
 to
   use the project as a way to get the larger audience aware of their
  ability
   to contribute and to give a fun image of contributing.
  
   The project in few words iss follow :
   * 10 cheeses per session
   * During the session the cheeses are photographed and their articles
   improved
   * During the sessions experimented wikimedian would train new editors
   * At every session every participant would enjoy eating good cheese too
  
   If you want to read more, or even contribute, about the project you can
  go
   on KissKissBankBank :
   http://www.kisskissbankbank.com/fr/projects/wikicheese
  
  
   If you have any questions, please feel free to shoot them on or off
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   All the best,
  
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] New Wikipedia Library Signups: Free Research Accounts!

2014-11-06 Thread Lane Rasberry
 

 It would be nice if the Wikipedia Library encouraged, or perhaps even
 required, that everytime a citation is added from a source behind a
 paywall, the Open Access button should be used to report it.


I would love to see this happen. While that button is not mentioned here,
the coordinators of the Signalling open access project are supporters of
the button and if the Wikipedia community had more presence in the open
access movement then promoting the button and perhaps even automating its
use would be a next step I would like to see happen.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Open_Access/Signalling_OA-ness





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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Research Committee

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] AFD survey

2014-07-16 Thread Lane Rasberry
 
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimediach-l] red cross

2014-07-04 Thread Lane Rasberry
Hello,

I work at an international organization (Consumer Reports, part of
Consumers International) which has an organizational relationship with Red
Cross especially in the United States. If someone has a proposal for
partnership then I could present it to the American chapter of the Red
Cross, or help anyone anticipate what their organizational needs are.

yours,


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 On Jul 4, 2014 7:55 AM, Frédéric Schütz sch...@mathgen.ch wrote:

  Their main worry seems to be how do we make sure that people do not use
  the pictures in a way we're not happy with

 That question qualifies as frequently asked; my usual answer is to the
 effect that You cannot - but anyone who is going to use them maliciously
 is not going to worry about niceties like copyright. The people whose
 activities you limit by applying a restrictive license are the good guys -
 and yourselves.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [MED] Most visited articles of a topic

2014-06-04 Thread Lane Rasberry
Hello Alex,

WikiProject Medicine on English discusses this issue in various ways.
Consider posting this message on that project's talk page.

The most prominent international project is with the Translation Task
Force, in which there is a coordinated international effort to get 80
medical articles presumed to be the most popular in the world all
translated and interconnected between every language.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Medicine/Translation_task_force/RTT


Right now Catalan is not part of this only because we have not yet
identified any Catalan community working on health articles.

If you want to talk more then please write me or just go to English
WikiProject Medicine - it would be great to collaborate.

yours,


On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 10:50 AM, Àlex Hinojo alexhin...@gmail.com wrote:

 Oh thanks! Didn't know it was moved to wmflabs and improved so well!




 2014-06-04 16:06 GMT+02:00 Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com:

  Àlex Hinojo, 04/06/2014 15:35:
 
   Do you know if there is a tool for that?
 
  - tracking which are the most visited articles in a category tree on a
  wiki
 
 
  https://tools.wmflabs.org/glamtools/treeviews/
  https://tools.wmflabs.org/wikiviewstats/ (if you're lucky and they share
  a title prefix; can work for asteroids and proteins I guess :P )
 
  Nemo
 
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] About Wikipedia medical entries

2014-05-27 Thread Lane Rasberry
Hello,

I am a participant in WikiProject Medicine on English Wikipedia and know
about this case. I also have talked to the researcher who published this
paper since its publication.

Lots of people have lots of objections to Wikipedia. In my opinion, the
study itself is correct for what it reports, but no newspaper or other
media understands what the study is saying and they are reporting all kinds
of silly things. Here is the discussion of this paper in WikiProject
Medicine -

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Medicine/Archive_48#Poor_paper_.5B4.5D_on_Wikipedia

That is in the archives, so if someone has more to say, post to the main
forum.

While I think this study is being perceived negatively, I appreciate any
research team who does any kind of research on Wikipedia's health content.
Here is a list of what has been done:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Medicine/Research_publications


@geni - The problem is the number of doctors who use wikipedia.

I disagree. I feel that the problem is that for all of history there has
never been health information accessible to doctors and patients. Wikipedia
at least says that people should have health information, whereas every
government and health organization in the world (NIH, NHS, WHO and the
rest) are still saying Not yet, it is not important, nobody wants this
and not providing any alternative. There are no alternatives or competitors
to Wikipedia for what it does, so of course doctors use it. The problem is
that no one else thinks doctors need ready access to good information right
now, and Wikipedia is just doing the best it can to meet the existing
demand that is otherwise ignored.

@Todd Allen - ask your doctor should always be the end of the process.

The number of people how have as much access to their doctors as they wish
is definitely not more than 20% of the English speaking world and the
reality is probably closer to 2-3% of people. Doctors simply do not have
more than minutes to answer questions and many people would like to study
for hours over their lifetimes. Referring people to doctors ignores the
problem that people do not get as much access to healthcare as they would
like, and doctors are not ready to provide health information on demand. At
the same time, patients are being encouraged to make more health decisions
with their doctors, but not given educational resources to help them make
those decisions.

I wish there were enough doctors, and people should try hard to ask them
lots of questions, but something more is needed too.

yours,




On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 10:33 AM, Todd Allen toddmal...@gmail.com wrote:

 Actually, Don't diagnose yourself is just generally good advice. Even if
 the medical information you have is accurate, there might be other possible
 causes or factors that need to be considered.

 Internet information, Wikipedia or otherwise, might be a good place to get
 things to ask your doctor about, but ask your doctor should always be the
 end of the process.


 On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 8:22 AM, Marc A. Pelletier m...@uberbox.org
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  On 05/27/2014 10:18 AM, Martijn Hoekstra wrote:
   From what I remember from it is that
   what is called Osteopathy in the UK isn't the same thing that's called
   Osteopathy in the US
 
  Ah, that explains it.  :-)
 
  Regardless, Don't diagnose yourself with Wikipedia seems to be
  infinitely good advice, regardless of any hyperbole about article
 accuracy!
 
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Child Protection Policy

2014-05-23 Thread Lane Rasberry
Hello,

Without ever being standardized or including age, there is a social
tradition called the Friendly space policy adopted by many Wikimedia
events. Here is one instance:
http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Friendly_space_policy

The idea is that in-person Wikimedia events should be safe and welcoming to
everyone. It does not mention age in this iteration.

In practice, this policy and derivations have been used to promote positive
behavioral norms in imitation of those developed by Western diversity
training and sensitivity training traditions.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diversity_training
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sensitivity_training

I would like for the Friendly space policy to continue to be developed
into a short, easy-to-read behavioral guideline which can be adopted by
anyone for in-person events and which guide online behavior. I would like
for policies like that child protection policy to serve as more nuanced
backing of the intent of the friendly space policy.

I favor development of best practices not only for the sake of the
Wikimedia community, but also to set standards which can be adopted by
other groups. Developing these kinds of policies has proven to be a lot
more complicated than anyone anticipated but I think our community is
positioned to come to consensus about what suits many people.

With regard to the child protection policy - beyond connecting that to a
friendly space policy, I wish that there could be some kind of support for
harassment of people in any context. I would like for some minimal plan to
be made to receive harassment complaints of any kind then to refer people
to whatever services are available, or to tell them that no services are
available. For my own interests I wanted this with regard to LGBT related
harassment on Wikipedia, but I know that harassment of women is also a
problem, and if we develop a youth policy then I think it would be useful
to combine all the concerns of the stakeholders into one place in which
anyone can present their report and have it considered, whatever that means.

yours,






On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 1:09 PM, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 23 May 2014 13:05, Wil Sinclair w...@wllm.com wrote:

  Is the following a full statement of Wikipedia's Child Protection
  Policy, reflecting all responsibilities that the Wikipedia community
  and the Wikimedia Foundation have taken on to protect children in all
  of the projects they are involved with and/or sponsor?
 
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Child_protection
 
  Are there any other *published* policies of WP or the WMF pertaining
  to child protection that I might have missed?
 
  I know that this is a very politically charged issue in the WP
  community. I'd appreciate a high light:heat ratio if anyone has
  comments beyond links to current policy statements.
 
  Thanks!
  ,Wil
 


 English Wikipedia policy:
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Child_protection

 The existence of a 'formalized' policy has been a topic of heated debate
 since its creation, although there is some truth that its original form
 more or less documented existing practice at the time.

 Risker/Anne
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] MET allows free image download for 390, 000+ works already in the pubic domain

2014-05-21 Thread Lane Rasberry
Hello,

Only their photographs of public domain two-dimensional works are
compatible with Wikimedia Commons' upload policy, so that excludes most of
what they are sharing.

The works that they are sharing which are compatible with Wikipedia are
very impressive. I know of no one who is uploading them to Commons as a
collection but I have taken their work as I liked it and shared it.

Despite what the museum director says in the press release, they are not
providing images in accord with open access principles as they forbid
reuse in commercial publications, like school textbooks.

The project is a big deal but still keeps major barriers between itself and
the open educational resource movement.

yours,


On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 4:03 PM, Maria Cruz mc...@wikimedia.org wrote:

 Hi,
 anyone knows if this MET initiative[1] is viable to have a reverberation in
 Commons, or if it is already a project in the community?

 I see this is very similar to the British Library donation, on December
 2013[2], that quickly started to spread on to Commons[3].

 Any knowledge about this would be much appreciated!

 Thanks,

 María


 [1] http://metmuseum.org/about-the-museum/press-room/news/2014/oasc-access
 [2]

 http://britishlibrary.typepad.co.uk/digital-scholarship/2013/12/a-million-first-steps.html
 [3]

 https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Images_from_the_British_Library_Mechanical_Curator_collection
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Commons tagging and/versus categorization

2014-05-21 Thread Lane Rasberry
Hello,

Here is another perspective on this same issue and an actionable remedy for
a lot of the problems we are discussing here.
http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/gendergap/2014-May/004287.html

That email describes a game in which people use a game on Wikidata to tag
biographies with a gender.

MzMcbride identified the major problem in the old system -
The general rule is always place an image in the most specific categories, and
not in the levels above those. Because of this, we had infrastructure
which precluded the development of finding all kinds of intersections. It
did not have to be that way, but that is how we used categories.

Read the above email in the link to see an example of how this new system
will prevent problems, make things simpler, and be more fair to people by
not defining them so discreetly.

Also, play the Wikidata game.

yours,



On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 8:56 AM, Nikolas Everett never...@wikimedia.orgwrote:

 On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 3:06 AM, Jan Ainali jan.ain...@wikimedia.se
 wrote:

  2014-05-20 8:41 GMT+02:00 Chad Horohoe choro...@wikimedia.org:
 
   The search engine (new, as well as old) supports category intersection.
  So
   actually, searching intersections of categories is very easy.
  
  
  Our definitiions of very easy are not intersecting :)
 
  It is possible yes, but to qualify for very easy I would suggest a GUI
 for
  modifying a search and a hotcat like functionality for selecting
  interescting categories. Such addition to Special:Search would be
 awesome.
 

 I think of most the syntax that Special:Search supports as for
 experts/power users.  Pretty much everything beyond quoting phrases is
 non-intuitive.  I'd describe it as useful but not discoverable.

 I remember seeing on a draft backlog a mention of writing some kind of more
 discoverable interface for complex category queries.  I don't remember
 which backlog (so no link, sorry) but I recall it being scheduled
 reasonably high on the list.  I don't know what that means for when work
 starts, much less when a first copy is released.  I don't even know how
 well it'd work with categories being leaves rather than tags or
 declarations of facts like I imagine you'd get with an ontology based
 solution.  And I don't know how you'd get from the categories we have now
 to something more like tags or facts.  I don't know lots of things

 It might be worth it to jump over category queries and implement it
 directly against wikidata.  I'll be sure to talk about this with the
 wikidata team when I see them later this week

 One advantage that categories do have is that they are built in so whatever
 more intuitive intersection mechanism we make would be useful to all
 mediawiki installs willing to install the search backend.  If it is hitched
 directly to wikidata the installation burden goes up considerably.  Not to
 mention it'd be easier for me to test locally with categories then with
 wikidata.  On the other hand having some mechanism where facts in wikidata
 are reflected into the local wiki sounds a bit jangly and breakable.  On
 the other other hand reflecting the facts into the local wiki would
 translate them into that wiki's language which would delay the need for
 some kind of translation integration (probably with wikidata as well).  On
 the other other other hand that doesn't help commons be multilingual.  Or
 do anything about toothbrush.

 I'm going to stop rambling now and go work on something else and let my
 subconscious filter through this.

 Nik
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Commons tagging and/versus categorization

2014-05-19 Thread Lane Rasberry
MZMcBride - Categories are hierarchical and people worry about them
overlapping. Tags have no hierarchy.

The major problem is that labor is wasted because there is no easy way to
search intersections of categories. Instead of having a category for 18th
century French painters, it would be ideal to just have tags for people in
the 18th century French people and painters and let the users remix
those tags instead of being forced to look in only that branch.

A proposal is at
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Beyond_categories

The problem has two parts - WMF cannot coordinate this kind of search with
existing categories, and there is no need to reform categories unless there
is a commitment to make this search capacity.

I see this as a serious problem.


On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 9:57 PM, Gerard Meijssen
gerard.meijs...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hoi,
 Easy and obvious when you look at it with eyes that do not expect English.
 A tag will be linked to Wikidata. Consequently it will show differently
 depending on the language you have selected for yourself.

 It is just these other people who will be serviced. Another reason is that
 there are artificial constraints with categories that are no longer valid..
 Who cares that we have more than one million items in a category for
 instance? Having tags with over one million items is for instance human.
 Thanks,
  GerardM


 On 20 May 2014 03:16, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote:

  David Gerard wrote:
  I'll be leaving Commons categorisation until it's tags rather than
  ridiculously specific subcategories.
 
  Commons has tags right now: they're called categories. Or is there a
  distinction you're making? :-)
 
  Tim and I discussed this a few weeks ago and I was mostly on your side,
  but when he asked what would be different, I had difficulty articulating
 a
  great response. It seems to really come down to a social problem on
  Commons. Some Commoners seem to have very specific views of what
  categories should be for and how they should be constructed and named.
 But
  this isn't a technical problem, per se. Poor labeling or other interface
  design problems (or outright limitations) in MediaWiki may contribute to
  this problem, but is there a larger technical issue here? It seems to
  primarily be a social issue, from what I've seen, not a technical issue.
  I'd be interested in your thoughts on this.
 
  There are specific features we'd like to have (such as built-in
  intersections), but is there a fundamental difference between categories
  and tags? Or perhaps put another way: what are we waiting for, exactly?
 
  MZMcBride
 
 
 
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Concerns regarding the APG Proposal from CIS, India

2014-05-10 Thread Lane Rasberry
Hello everyone,

It is my opinion that the complaints are serious enough to merit a response
before finalizing a decision about the annual plan grants proposal from the
Computer and Internet Society.

I hope for a satisfying resolution to all concerns raised.

yours,


On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 12:52 PM, Tanweer Morshed wiki.tanw...@gmail.comwrote:

 I've been seeing the discussion on the APG proposal for the past one month.
 Concerns and comments from community members, Wikimedians from and beyond
 India indicates that the actions of CIS in the past and what they says in
 the proposal to do in future, have raised serious concerns among
 Wikimedians and those involved with the movement. Those who are not yet
 aware of this, please look over the situation and help take the issue in
 proper way.


 On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 1:17 AM, Hari Prasad Nadig m...@hpnadig.net
 wrote:

  Fellow Wikimedians,
 
  There were several concerns raised about the CIS India's APG Proposal
 here:
 
 
 https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants_talk:APG/Proposals/2013-2014_round2/The_Centre_for_Internet_and_Society/Proposal_form
 
  Despite those, the FDC process seems to be moving on, with apparently the
  staff assessment not taking the comments from the community into account
  seriously. My concerns about this are stated here:
 
 
 https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants_talk:APG/Proposals/2013-2014_round2/The_Centre_for_Internet_and_Society/Staff_proposal_assessment
 
  Kindly participate in the discussion and help steer this in the right
  direction.
 
  Thank you,
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