e even larger. We could be talking about $6M
or $8M or more. That's a lot of money to spend and I'm struggling to understand
what the return on investment is.
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additional hundreds of thousands of
dollars in donor money on this sham exercise.
But don't worry, highly deceptive advertising is back on the projects, in
mid-April, to ensure continued funding of this and other charades.
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that at least one party is no longer acting in good faith.
So, no, I don't think everyone is working toward the same goals here.
Should we have a conversation about the neglected sister projects?
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>permanent global block by the WMF should be handled by the community or
>ArbCom. We therefore need a fuller statement, signed by an individual, as
>soon as possible. [...]
Well
The current model of having a
very top-heavy Wikimedia Foundation Inc. headquartered in San Francisco is
bad. While we never want to conflate change with improvement, there's
plenty of room for the latter.
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>Gregory Varnum wrote:
>>After many months of work by over 100 individuals around the organization
>>and movement, the Wikimedia Foundation's new website soft launched this
>>week!
>>
>>You can check it out for yourself here (you may need to clea
raised objections to this decision to move to
WordPress and they were ignored. I think this type of behavior by the
communications department is really inappropriate, unbecoming, and
inconsistent with Wikimedia's values.
I also agree with Yair Rand that the focus on "Advocacy&qu
rations like GEICO, the New York Times
>and Marriott to startups you haven't heard of (yet). ((Hopefully you'll
>be able to add Wikipedia here shortly)).
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why, given the company's role in selling an "Online Reputation Management"
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ontributions as being part of that group, instead of having "User:Herman"
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should give a lot more flexibility to regular users to handle various
device sizes and constraints using Cascading Style Sheets (CSS). A big
thanks to Anomie, Tgr, and others who are helping move this task
ot;Tor onion service" in this context is
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who could be against ideas from a usability initiative? Perhaps this new
responsive skin for MediaWiki wikis needs a similar marketing strategy.
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examples.
I'd like to see links to Gerrit changesets and Phabricator tasks where
this new policy and its committee would help. If you want to make claims
of serious unacknowledged problems, substantiate them with evidence. This
is exactly the same burden of proof you would expect from anyone else.
al vote, presumably
because there's a concern that a final vote would result in rejection of
this policy. Bleh.
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agree that it's time for dessert, not everyone agrees with having pudding.
Or the flavor of the pudding. Or the means used to make and eat it.
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of them. These two templates are decent
attempts: <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Affiliates> and
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Affiliations_Committee>.
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Andy Mabbett wrote:
>On 3 February 2017 at 00:00, MZMcBride <z...@mzmcbride.com> wrote:
>> I guess this is referring to
>> <https://blog.wikimedia.org/2017/01/30/knowledge-knows-no-boundaries/>.
>
>There were speakers and delegates at Wikimania 2012, in Washington
propriate for this mailing list. Your recent medium.com,
cnbc.com, and aol.com links all fail this test.
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At least the recent blog post was signed by Katherine. That's better than
some of these other essays.
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now greatly expanded the group of people who
can alter global policies. This is a pretty big and sudden shift.
To Lodewijk's point about consultation and notification, was/is the Board
of Trustees planning to announce this seemingly large and significant
change to the affected Wik
evious Executive Director resigned
after being forced out by her staff. In the context of the recent history,
this resolution is all the more puzzling.
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<https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Code_of_Conduct/Draft>.
It's plain to see in discussions like this that every support vote came
from Wikimedia Foundation employees or employees of another Wikimedia
affiliate (WMDE and WMFR). The opposing votes came
;maintain this for the English campaign.
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* https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T387
* https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T29242
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>compensation from it.
I can't help but think about the tempestuous past year that the Wikimedia
Foundation has had, including issues with Sue's immediate successor.
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The reply is vaguely related to the vacant seats; I imagine its contents
will be of interest to this list.
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ign to write articles about female scientists
>is only the most recent and prominent example illustrating that the
>audience is there.
This is somewhat tangential, but
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emily_Temple-Wood> exists now. I personally
find this to be both unfortunate and potenti
mandated that anyone be able to do. With multiple copies of the data
on the Web, we're better ensuring that the content lives on in perpetuity.
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>On Sat, Mar 5, 2016 at 7:54 AM, MZMcBride <z...@mzmcbride.com> wrote:
>> Removing a roof without also having a plan for an interim roof is a
>>really amateur mistake.
>
>Not really if the roof was radioactive, and on fire.
The roof
Jimmy Wales wrote:
>On 3/5/16 3:07 AM, MZMcBride wrote:
>> I don't see it as a sign of strength to abdicate your responsibility in
>> this way.
>
>There are at least two things I disagree with about this remark - one
>that seeking the advice and participation and buy-
now noticed your use of community-selected here. I think
sometime this year, we should hold a community straw poll on Meta-Wiki
about changing the selection to an election. I think the Board of Trustees
needs to hear from the Wikimedia editing community about this issue.
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s were the ones complaining for a
new roof, but it's the landlord's responsibility to have the roof replaced
in a professional and orderly way.
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huge matter. Are you suggesting we re-open that discussion?
The Croatian Wikipedia would be (re)started if LangCom approves it. We
have processes for both starting and closing Wikipedias.
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Thank you very much for creating and publishing this timeline, Molly. I
really appreciate that you built the timeline in a way that enables
tracking changes and allows for collaborative improvements. Well done!
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>to your satisfaction.
I've e-mailed you privately.
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counsel and two legal directors), eight community liaisons, or a mobile
apps team? I'm sure these are all great people doing excellent work, but
when I see how much the Wikimedia Foundation staff has ballooned (and
frankly bloated), it makes me sad
y with the full grant agreement being published?
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unding this Knight Foundation grant? Or do you
know who at the Wikimedia Foundation would be the best/most appropriate
contact to figure this out? Geoff and the legal team? One of the
grants-related staff such as Janice? Any help would be appreciated!
MZM
MZMcBride wrote:
>Wes and Katherine: do you know what steps need to be taken in order to
>release the documents surrounding this Knight Foundation grant? Or do you
>know who at the Wikimedia Foundation would be the best/most appropriate
>contact to figure this out? Geoff and the leg
understand what you are doing. Please take my vote
>as a respectful record of my perplexity.
>
>(*)Citing community-born members only. Appointed members bring great
>perspective, but I do not expect them to know it all about Wikimedia
>community.
e a fast and dedicated stream for title prefix
searches. Apple's built-in Dictionary application has been the primary
consumer of this feed, though I believe it's open to anyone.
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woven. My suspicion is that if you or others put in the time to thoroughly
document the connection between the two entities, you'd miraculously find
more than a single concern about a failed project, as your reply suggested.
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er>. By my
count, the Board of Trustees has passed six separate resolutions to
accommodate the Sloan Foundation's request to have a Board observer.
I agree with you that the current lack of openness and transparency
surrounding the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees
ard>.
I think it would be nice to get clarification on the current status of the
Advisory Board before discussing ways to improve it.
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Yury Bulka wrote:
>MZMcBride <z...@mzmcbride.com> writes:
>> A few years ago, the Wikimedia Foundation switched over to the Google
>>Apps platform, which means that most e-mail sent on the wikimedia.org
>>domain is now hosted by Google.
>Are you sure? It doesn't look
member;
* strongly urge the Board of Trustees to be more transparent and
communicative, embracing the values that keep our projects running; and
* evaluate the process for filling community-selected Board of Trustees
seats, perhaps changing the seats to
undation's responsibilities, keeping the sites
running fast, reliably, and securely, is being appropriately handled.
The world continues to be able to read and contribute to our shared free
content and for that I'm grateful. The rest is commentary, as they say.
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information related to this removal, but it seemed remiss to omit an
official statement from the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees on the
subject, especially when we have already included a number of other
statements from individual trustees and the Board in this thread.
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e a plan of
action, write the necessary code, and get it deployed. But for now, it
seems pretty silly to try to give credit for essentially having a group of
people vote on Phabricator Maniphest tasks.
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starting and continuing a tangential (meta-)discussion without changing
the subject line to create a new thread. We'll all strive indeed. :-)
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mes to the
rescue: <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IEP> and
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IEG>. Maybe we should start selling
decoder rings.
Acronyms and abbreviations are fine, especially in a long document, but at
minimum the first reference should always be spelled out.
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long-time trusted and
respected Wikimedians and all of whom take their role seriously.
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my mind, he's the person
likely able to speak most freely about this removal and probably is more
familiar with it than most. For now, he seems to have chosen not to say
very much. Others involved in the removal likely can't (or maybe won't)
say much more, which of
rising vote,
it was a nearly unanimous decision (8 to 1). I have a good deal of respect
for many of the current Board of Trustees members and I have no doubt that
all of them understand and appreciate the gravity of removing a colleague.
This wasn't a close vote and to me that says quite a bit.
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teers, would go far toward a more sustainable fund-raising model.
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en expand in-your-face banners as far as they can,
>and only stop once their sites are quite difficult to use. It happens
>gradually (I'm looking at you, Wikia ;) but the result is the usability
>equivalent of linkrot. Let's not let WP end up like that.
I d
ical capacity and capability to add
more redirects. We already support a ton of them (donate.wikipedia.org,
careers.wikipedia.org, textbook.wikipedia.org, etc.), the question is
whether we want to add a small number of redirects to the pile.
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Amir Ladsgroup wrote:
>The subject is self-explanatory (also I have this suggestion for
>blog.wikiquote.org and other projects as well)
>
>What do you think?
Hi.
Why? The request is self-explanatory, but the uses and use-cases are not
Dariusz Jemielniak wrote:
>On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 2:37 PM, MZMcBride <z...@mzmcbride.com> wrote:
>>Or from a different angle: how is the Wikimedia Foundation budget
>>allocated? Does the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees currently do
>>its own direct allocation, b
data ::
Wikimedia Foundation : Wikipedia, right? If one organization is expected
to separate out costs for its largest technical project, shouldn't the
other be as well?
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gt;strategic and annual planning, and the WMF’s approach to budget
>transparency (or lack thereof).
Sort of inline with the first question, but perhaps more direct: what
power does the Funds Dissemination Committee have over the amount of donor
money allocated toward the Wikimedia Foundation? Can
Wil Sinclair wrote:
>Thanks for bringing me up, MZMcBride; should get a lot more people to look
>at those IRC logs I was hoping to bring to everyone's attention.
I'm looking forward to your posts about the current and upcoming Wikimedia
Foundation strategic plans. That's why you came
trolling a
few Wikipedia-related IRC channels on freenode. Such productivity. :-/
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at news to read that "superprotection" is dead! Erik brought an
invaluable amount of good to Wikimedia, but that mis-feature was
unequivocally bad. Personally, I think it was more of an albatross than a
red herring. ;-) Good riddance.
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planning for Montreal
started in 2010 for an eventual 2017 bid. However, you continue on to
write that it's wasted effort if a bid fails in a particular year.
Wouldn't failed bids be re-usable in subsequent years?
My guess is that sponsors and venues are capable of understand
nsequently, it seems most prudent to be asking what went wrong
and how it will be better next time. The underlying reality is that we
still need a better on-wiki discussion system and it now looks like
neither LiquidThreads nor Flow are going to be it.
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Forwarding this to wikimedia-l as it doesn't seem to be very technical in
nature, but definitely seems worthy of discussion.
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Danny Horn wrote:
>For a while now, the Collaboration team has been working on Flow, the
>structured discussion system. I want to let you know abou
r why the previous work has failed and what will be better next time.
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account, did you seriously just suggest
that stewards would try to go around randomly super-protecting pages
instead of simply removing admin rights from the compromised account? I'm
boggling pretty hard at your reply here.
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(English) has an article.
And https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q918113#sitelinks-wikipedia tracks
which other Wikipedias have similar articles. :-)
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investigated what the e-mail was about.
The text of the e-mail I received is pasted below.
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Bonjour MZMcBride,
L’équipe Recherche de la Fondation Wikimédia (Wikimedia Research)
travaille actuellement sur l’identification d’articles populaires et
importants[1] dans certaines
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This story about an art exhibit opening in New York on Thursday is pretty
neat. A Wikipedian has been working for years to create a print version of
Wikipedia, described as half utilitarian data visualization project, half
absurdist poetic gesture
Hi.
This op-ed by Andrew Lih appeared in today's New York Times. I'm sending
it here in case anyone is interested in reading or discussing it. I
enjoyed the piece; congrats to Mr. Lih on getting this published!
MZMcBride
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/21/opinion/can-wikipedia-survive.html
. Hopefully we'll have photos of the project on
Wikimedia Commons soon.
Related reading: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Size_in_volumes.
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