Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: [Wikitech-l] Audio derivatives, turning on MP3/AAC mobile app feature request.

2013-02-02 Thread Michael Dale
It was not and has not yet been decided afaik. This is just another 
recommendation that we do so. Last I heard on these lists, was legal was 
looking into as a prerequisite to inform any decision. Someone from the 
foundation can probably make a more official comment.


--michael

On 2/2/13 2:31 PM, David Gerard wrote:

So when and who authorised non-free formats?


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From: Michael Dale md...@wikimedia.org
Date: 2 February 2013 16:25
Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] Audio derivatives, turning on MP3/AAC 
mobile app feature request.
To: Wikimedia developers wikitec...@lists.wikimedia.org
Cc: Jan Gerber j...@thing.net


+correct content-type this time ;) Note this has already been merged,
but still worth mention for visibility.

On 2/1/13 12:10 PM, Michael Dale wrote:

We are about to merge in support for audio derivatives to Timed Media Handler 
(TMH). The big value here, I think is encoding to AAC or MP3 and adding a 
/listen to this article/ feature to the mobile app.
https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/39363/

This can really help with improving accessibility of Wiktionary pronunciation 
media files as well.

Also AAC / m4v ingestion, could make audio recordings a lot easier to import into the 
site, i.e a record a reading of this article mobile app feature #2  ;)

There are already thousands of spoken articles, with some promotion their could 
probably be a lot be more:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Spoken_articles

The software patent situation for mp3 is sad, considering how long the mp3 
format has been around:
http://www.tunequest.org/a-big-list-of-mp3-patents/20070226/

I think AAC is a similar situation, encoder wise:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Audio_Coding#Licensing_and_patents

But fundamentally Wikimedia is not distributing these encoders and there are 
no royalties for media distribution. Likewise we are not shipping decoders ( the decoders 
are in browser or the mobile OS )

I don't know why Wikimedia's commitment to being accessible in royalty free 
formats, somehow also precludes making content accessible for folks on 
platforms that ~don't~ decode royalty free formats. But hopefully we can change 
that over time.

Not sure if this is the right forum for this, but I hope we could come out of 
this thread with rough consensus to enable these formats to help increase the 
reach of audio works.

peace,
--michael



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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] Release of educational videos under creative commons (Wikimedia-l Digest, Vol 97, Issue 73)

2012-04-24 Thread Michael Dale

Thanks Sumana! :)

--michael

On 04/24/2012 09:10 PM, Sumana Harihareswara wrote:

https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Roadmap indicates that we aim to have
TimedMediaHandler deployed onto Wikimedia Foundation sites by the end of
May 2012.

TimedMediaHandler has been reviewed by Ian Baker and Kandalgaonkar
extensively, with lots of changes made in response by Michael Dale.
Review notes and Michael's follow-up are at
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/TimedMediaHandler/ReviewNotes . It is
currently being tested, including transcoding support, at
http://commons.wikimedia.beta.wmflabs.org/wiki/File:Electric_sheep.webm
.  (Copied this from the extensions review queue status at
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Review_queue .)





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