Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Block of Wikipedia in Turkey ruled as unconstitutional

2020-01-07 Thread Mike Godwin
I'd have been surprised if they had been unblocked, but, as I said, the constitutional win is still important. Mike On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 11:32 AM John Erling Blad wrote: > Both en.wikipedia.org and tr.wikipedia.org are still blocked. > > On Thu, Dec 26, 2019 at 10:44 PM Mike Godw

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Block of Wikipedia in Turkey ruled as unconstitutional

2019-12-26 Thread Mike Godwin
Great news! Even if the court's decision isn't implemented by the current Turkish government, it is important to have established that the block was a violation of constitutional principles. Mike On Thu, Dec 26, 2019 at 4:40 PM Katherine Maher wrote: > Hi all, > > I have some good news to

[Wikimedia-l] My nomination for the Internet Society Board of Trustees

2019-02-05 Thread Mike Godwin
=IwAR1qozU-R5KlhH7By4pSijOqB24wVJtPVqjSQKjuzno3vLPALzPSJUrtGHA Best regards! Mike Godwin ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcing the Foundation's challenge to recent U.S. immigration executive order

2017-02-06 Thread Mike Godwin
Yair Rand writes: > I find it difficult to believe that this situation is so critical > and urgent that an RfC in advance was impossible, so if it does fall under > that section, the policy was yet again violated. I don't find it difficult at all to believe time was of the essence, but, then,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Politics

2017-02-04 Thread Mike Godwin
ne, outward-looking, courageous movement that acknowledges self-doubt but also remains committed to enabling us all to raise our individual and collective voices in defense of values grounded in generosity, love, and tolerance. Thanks for listening. --M

Re: [Wikimedia-l] My article on Wikipedia Zero and Net Neutrality, just out today at Reason.com

2015-04-09 Thread Mike Godwin
Charter for Cambodian Internet Freedom. https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/great-charter-cambodian-internet-freedom-mike-godwin. --Mike On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 5:35 AM, geni geni...@gmail.com wrote: On 9 April 2015 at 00:51, Mike Godwin mnemo...@gmail.com wrote: http://reason.com/archives/2015/04

Re: [Wikimedia-l] My article on Wikipedia Zero and Net Neutrality, just out today at Reason.com

2015-04-09 Thread Mike Godwin
On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 5:35 AM, geni geni...@gmail.com wrote: On 9 April 2015 at 00:51, Mike Godwin mnemo...@gmail.com wrote: http://reason.com/archives/2015/04/08/nothing-but-net --Mike I'm not convinced you are helping your case with your choice of venue. -- geni

[Wikimedia-l] My article on Wikipedia Zero and Net Neutrality, just out today at Reason.com

2015-04-08 Thread Mike Godwin
http://reason.com/archives/2015/04/08/nothing-but-net --Mike ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia-l Digest, Vol 133, Issue 17

2015-04-05 Thread Mike Godwin
Kourosh Karimkhany, Vice President of Strategic Partnerships Message-ID: 55210367.6020...@tygers-of-wrath.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed On 02/04/2015 02:54, Mike Godwin wrote: Andreas writes: Prominent organisations campaigning for a free and open web very

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Introducing Kourosh Karimkhany, Vice President of Strategic Partnerships

2015-04-04 Thread Mike Godwin
Rupert Thurner writes: while i love irony, and value your opinion a lot, i find the tone of this email a little harsh, not to call it unfair. I'm strangely untroubled by harsh, but I'm glad you don't call it unfair. I don't think I was unfair. Besides, when someone is as insignificant as I am,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Introducing Kourosh Karimkhany, Vice President of Strategic Partnerships

2015-04-01 Thread Mike Godwin
. Best regards, --Mike Godwin WMF General Counsel 1007-2010 Director of Innovation Policy and General Counsel, The R Street Institute ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Introducing Kourosh Karimkhany, Vice President of Strategic Partnerships

2015-04-01 Thread Mike Godwin
for impact. Seems to me that in its current form it's just going to drag along---Zero either needs a clear procedural rethink or it needs to be would down. On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 7:05 AM, Mike Godwin mnemo...@gmail.com wrote: GerardM writes: With Wikipedia Zero people have access to knowledge

[Wikimedia-l] Introducing Kourosh Karimkhany, Vice President of Strategic Partnerships

2015-04-01 Thread Mike Godwin
that the prominence of those organizations has not led them to being so casually dismissive of me as you have chosen to be. Best regards, --Mike Godwin On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 8:02 PM, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 12:05 PM, Mike Godwin mnemo...@gmail.com wrote

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WaPo Wikipedia's 'complicated; relationship with net neutrality

2014-12-09 Thread Mike Godwin
Jens writes: (I'm still a little bit irritated by your rhetoric trickery, Mike, when calling the usual and established understanding of net neutrality repeatedly absolutist. This cheap rhetorical maneuver doesn't fit you.) I suppose at this point I could declare that its rhetorical trickery,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WaPo Wikipedia's 'complicated; relationship with net neutrality

2014-12-09 Thread Mike Godwin
+1 I agree entirely with every word of Erik's response here. --Mike Message: 2 Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2014 22:28:37 -0800 From: Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org To: Wikimedia Mailing List wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] WaPo Wikipedia's 'complicated; relationship

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WaPo Wikipedia's 'complicated; relationship with net neutrality

2014-12-08 Thread Mike Godwin
there for me yet, if he has posted them. --Mike On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 8:10 PM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: Mike Godwin wrote: Does this mean some platform providers will use Wikipedia Zero to justify their own self-serving economic alliances? Of course it does. But we don't have to let

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WaPo Wikipedia's 'complicated; relationship with net neutrality

2014-12-08 Thread Mike Godwin
MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: I can't say I watch PBS very much, but I do occasionally listen to NPR. And to borrow a phrase from the West Coast, I find those advertisements hella annoying and I certainly don't think we should emulate them. If you have an alternative funding plan for

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WaPo Wikipedia's 'complicated; relationship with net neutrality

2014-12-08 Thread Mike Godwin
On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 10:56 PM, John Mark Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com wrote: Comparisons to PBS/TV are not a useful pro-Wikipedia Zero argument ... Nor was it offered as a pro-Wikipedia Zero argument! It is instead an argument intended *specifically to underscore inconsistent standards of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WaPo Wikipedia's 'complicated; relationship with net neutrality

2014-12-01 Thread Mike Godwin
Tim Landscheidt writes: I think on the contrary Wikipedia Zero illustrates nicely why net neutrality is so important: Wikipedia Zero favours solely Wikipedia (und sister projects), while contradicting or simply other opinions and resources bite the dust. I'm not following your reasoning

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Superprotect user right, Comming to a wiki near you

2014-08-14 Thread Mike Godwin
Henning writes: To describe Eric's action I am tempted to use a metaphor that includes black uniforms and heavy boots. But that would not be appropriately written by a German to a German. My experience over the last quarter century suggests that this metaphor rarely works out well. --Mike

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Applying the Right to Be Forgotten to Wikipedia (Was Re: Right to be forgotten)

2014-06-04 Thread Mike Godwin
??? writes: On 02/06/2014 21:14, Mike Godwin wrote: Google has a clear purpose too, and it was no defense. Plus, there is a public-interest argument in favor of eschewing the erasure of true, accurate public data that happens to be old. There is nothing in the judgement about erasing true

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Applying the Right to Be Forgotten to Wikipedia (Was Re: Right to be forgotten)

2014-06-04 Thread Mike Godwin
Chris writes: I think there's a philosophical issue about privacy here. As far as I can see the ECJ interprets privacy as the right to enjoy a private life, and sees any party holding a significant amount of data about a private individual without good reason as a potential infringement on

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Applying the Right to Be Forgotten to Wikipedia (Was Re: Right to be forgotten)

2014-06-03 Thread Mike Godwin
On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 4:19 PM, Todd Allen toddmal...@gmail.com wrote: Would WMF, being in the US, need to worry about this to any greater degree than it worries about, say, Chinese publishing restrictions, or UK superinjunctions? First, WMF operates globally, and while I took pains as general

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Applying the Right to Be Forgotten to Wikipedia (Was Re: Right to be forgotten)

2014-06-03 Thread Mike Godwin
On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 4:48 PM, Chris Keating chriskeatingw...@gmail.com wrote: I don't believe Wikipedia could be a data controller as it has no legal personality, and legal personality is quite difficult to acquire when you set out to avoid acquiring it. On this point I must disagree.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Applying the Right to Be Forgotten to Wikipedia (Was Re: Right to be forgotten)

2014-06-03 Thread Mike Godwin
On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 10:37 AM, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote: Does the ECJ need to establish jurisdiction over Wikimedia or specific users (presumably only those users directly involved in creating or curating the content in dispute)? We've seen in some situations in the past (e.g. with

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Applying the Right to Be Forgotten to Wikipedia (Was Re: Right to be forgotten)

2014-06-02 Thread Mike Godwin
:02 PM, Chris Keating chriskeatingw...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 6:39 PM, Mike Godwin mnemo...@gmail.com wrote: Chris writes: As I understand it, the right to be forgotten will only affect the discoverability of content, rather than existence of content. So if we rely

[Wikimedia-l] Applying the Right to Be Forgotten to Wikipedia (Was Re: Right to be forgotten)

2014-05-30 Thread Mike Godwin
Chris writes: As I understand it, the right to be forgotten will only affect the discoverability of content, rather than existence of content. So if we rely on a source which says that person X did Y many years ago, and X succeeds in invoking their right to be forgotten, then the source

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Child Protection and Harassment Policy (also relevant to A personal note)

2014-05-29 Thread Mike Godwin
with their consensus, as I frequently do. I hope this note is taken in the spirit in which it is written. Thanks for your attention. --Mike Godwin Senior Legal Advisor, Global Internet Policy Project, Internews General Counsel, Wikimedia Foundation, 2007-2010

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why not everyone have the right to vote in the Board FDC elections?

2013-04-28 Thread Mike Godwin
Sue writes: Interesting thread, Itzik --- to be honest, I had forgotten that staff had been granted the right to vote regardless of edit count. I wouldn't be surprised if the only staff members who do vote are those who would qualify under the edit count requirement anyway. Seems to me that

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF Policy and Political Affiliations Guideline

2012-08-03 Thread Mike Godwin
Michael Snow writes: Perhaps worth adding, I think it's fair to say that these reviews did take place with respect to the use of Wikimedia Foundation resources in the context of the January SOPA protest. They didn't necessarily follow the form of the current policy, since it didn't exist yet,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Russian Wikipedia goes on strike

2012-07-12 Thread Mike Godwin
Anthony writes: I wonder if the WMF will shut down in protest should one of the proposals to amend the constitution to overturn Citizens United gain traction in Congress. I'm not speaking for WMF, but I don't see the connection here. Wikimedia Foundation, as a corporation, is profoundly

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Russian Wikipedia goes on strike

2012-07-12 Thread Mike Godwin
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 6:38 AM, Anthony wikim...@inbox.org wrote: I'm not speaking for WMF, but I don't see the connection here. The connection is free speech. Analytically, however, the issue raised by Citizens United is not simply an issue of free speech. It centers on the precise question

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Russian Wikipedia goes on strike

2012-07-12 Thread Mike Godwin
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 9:19 AM, Anthony wikim...@inbox.org wrote: Analytically, however, the issue raised by Citizens United is not simply an issue of free speech. It centers on the precise question of what role corporate expenditures can play in elections. The law in question was with

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Russian Wikipedia goes on strike

2012-07-12 Thread Mike Godwin
I wrote: 'I'm entirely comfortable with The New York Times Company (a corporation) and its efforts to influence the outcome of elections (e.g., through candidate endorsements; I wouldn't want to prohibit The New York Times Company from political speech.' That paragraph got truncated through an

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Russian Wikipedia goes on strike

2012-07-12 Thread Mike Godwin
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 10:08 AM, Anthony wikim...@inbox.org wrote: You specifically contrasted regulations as a corporation with regulations by virtue of its being a nonprofit corporation. I responded to both. You then quoted my response to the first, with information with respect to the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Russian Wikipedia goes on strike

2012-07-12 Thread Mike Godwin
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 11:34 AM, Anthony wikim...@inbox.org wrote: So? I gave you pointers to regs for 501(c)(3), (c)(4), etc. Well, no, you didn't. I think most people will agree that I did give you pointers to the regs. I agree that I did not give you direct links to the regs. Perhaps you

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Russian Wikipedia goes on strike

2012-07-12 Thread Mike Godwin
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 11:59 AM, Anthony wikim...@inbox.org wrote: Okay. Is there something in those regs which regulates what WMF can and cannot do politically? All I see is regulations stating that WMF may be taxed based on what is does. I'm afraid I don't understand the distinction