Re: [Wikimedia-l] A Universal Code of Conduct draft for review

2020-09-12 Thread Natacha Rault via Wikimedia-l
Hi, 

This has just been published on the Mozilla community blog by Emma Irwin and I 
thought it could interest some of you here. 

https://blog.mozilla.org/community/2020/09/10/weaving-safety-into-the-fabric-of-open-source/

It brings insight into the experience of enforcing a code of conduct in an open 
source community.

Wikilove! 

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> Le 12 sept. 2020 à 05:23, Zainan Zhou (a.k.a Victor)  a écrit :
> 
> 
> I might be wrong, but I couldn't help noticing some disagreements of whether 
> we should have a Universal CoC lies in the different mindset of how conflicts 
> should be governed, just like legal systems of Common Laws vs Civil Laws. 
> 
> 
>> On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 9:25 AM Natacha Rault via Wikimedia-l 
>>  wrote:
>> {{trigger warning : French joke included}}
>> 
>> Dear Pete, let me explain  why this is problematic.  
>> 
>> First I am sorry to say there is no hidden agenda or awful witchery plot to 
>> uncover including WMF influence. I have myself severely criticised the WMF 
>> in the course of the branding process (and was never scolded for that so I 
>> think we can express criticism). Maybe not all the time, maybe not just in 
>> any format. 
>> 
>>  I made the initial comment, and no one pushed me into.  If it has offended 
>> people, I am sorry, maybe I should in effect have reached out to Dan 
>> privately first. Dan I am sorry of the attention, your wording is being 
>> given, and I would like us to move on, as suggested by Alphos to a more 
>> constructive debate. 
>> 
>> Pete, because your are asking repeatedly for clarification and only because 
>> of that, what I have learned from my #black lives matter friends, it that s 
>> not my obligation to educate you on why this is problematic.  In fact when 
>> you ask for clarifications, you are putting pressure on people who find the 
>> use of disrespectful language a problem instead of  asking why the initial 
>> comment had to include flatulistic scenery (and this for French speakers has 
>> nothing to do with Brice de Nice’s expression « ça farte » see for reference 
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhZ_kkVzx18 
>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhZ_kkVzx18>) which blurrs the actual 
>> meaning behind the criticisml, especially for people whose language is not 
>> English in the first place. Then one could argue that it is targeting people 
>> of an institution. Full stop. 
>> 
>> I wish to  move on to why I believe spaces should be moderated, which 
>> basically would mean enforcing a code of conduct, that many members of our 
>> community have been asking for for years.
>> 
>>  « As I am a nice guy » I will give a few ressources explaining why I think 
>> lists, and wikimedia spaces should be moderated. Basically it is because you 
>> can : 
>> 
>> 1- allow free roaming speech and leaving agressive behaviours unchecked 
>> creating a space where only certain social groups are over represented but 
>> thus you can’t claim to be designing the sum of all human knowledge
>> 
>> OR 
>> 
>> 2 - design free open source inclusive spaces  that are allowing anyone to 
>> participate but you then have to moderate content because, people have 
>> different « cultures" and may not understand what offends others, there is a 
>> learning curve. 
>> 
>> Here is  a timeline of incidents 
>> https://geekfeminism.wikia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_incidents#2018for 
>> <https://geekfeminism.wikia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_incidents#2018for> 
>> 
>> This time line of incidents is often cited by women as a reason for having 
>> OS code of conducts (which includes moderation of mailing lists most of the 
>> time) 
>> 
>> History tells us, that in the early internet days, the first experiments of 
>> virtual spaces encountered less harassment and more women. This is told in 
>> the following book : https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/35953464-broad-band 
>> <https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/35953464-broad-band>, where the story 
>> of Stacy Horn and how she actually designed the Esat Coast Hanger (ECHO) see 
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stacy_Horn 
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stacy_Horn> is detailed.  Why? Because Stacy 
>> Horn moderated each chan and reached out to every member that left the 
>> community so that she would eventually know about abusive behaviours and 
>> document it. 
>> 
>> Designing a safe space does not mean you cannot address just any topic, it 
>> just means that you do so paying attention to how you treat potential 
&

Re: [Wikimedia-l] A Universal Code of Conduct draft for review

2020-09-11 Thread Natacha Rault via Wikimedia-l
{{trigger warning : French joke included}}

Dear Pete, let me explain  why this is problematic.  

First I am sorry to say there is no hidden agenda or awful witchery plot to 
uncover including WMF influence. I have myself severely criticised the WMF in 
the course of the branding process (and was never scolded for that so I think 
we can express criticism). Maybe not all the time, maybe not just in any 
format. 

 I made the initial comment, and no one pushed me into.  If it has offended 
people, I am sorry, maybe I should in effect have reached out to Dan privately 
first. Dan I am sorry of the attention, your wording is being given, and I 
would like us to move on, as suggested by Alphos to a more constructive debate. 

Pete, because your are asking repeatedly for clarification and only because of 
that, what I have learned from my #black lives matter friends, it that s not my 
obligation to educate you on why this is problematic.  In fact when you ask for 
clarifications, you are putting pressure on people who find the use of 
disrespectful language a problem instead of  asking why the initial comment had 
to include flatulistic scenery (and this for French speakers has nothing to do 
with Brice de Nice’s expression « ça farte » see for reference 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhZ_kkVzx18 
) which blurrs the actual meaning 
behind the criticisml, especially for people whose language is not English in 
the first place. Then one could argue that it is targeting people of an 
institution. Full stop. 

I wish to  move on to why I believe spaces should be moderated, which basically 
would mean enforcing a code of conduct, that many members of our community have 
been asking for for years.

 « As I am a nice guy » I will give a few ressources explaining why I think 
lists, and wikimedia spaces should be moderated. Basically it is because you 
can : 

1- allow free roaming speech and leaving agressive behaviours unchecked 
creating a space where only certain social groups are over represented but thus 
you can’t claim to be designing the sum of all human knowledge

OR 

2 - design free open source inclusive spaces  that are allowing anyone to 
participate but you then have to moderate content because, people have 
different « cultures" and may not understand what offends others, there is a 
learning curve. 

Here is  a timeline of incidents 
https://geekfeminism.wikia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_incidents#2018for 
 

This time line of incidents is often cited by women as a reason for having OS 
code of conducts (which includes moderation of mailing lists most of the time) 

History tells us, that in the early internet days, the first experiments of 
virtual spaces encountered less harassment and more women. This is told in the 
following book : https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/35953464-broad-band 
, where the story of 
Stacy Horn and how she actually designed the Esat Coast Hanger (ECHO) see 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stacy_Horn 
 is detailed.  Why? Because Stacy 
Horn moderated each chan and reached out to every member that left the 
community so that she would eventually know about abusive behaviours and 
document it. 

Designing a safe space does not mean you cannot address just any topic, it just 
means that you do so paying attention to how you treat potential readers, and 
contributors to create a discussion that is actually evolving around the 
subject, and not the format of it. 

A 2018 incident about wether or not a joke should be removed  
https://lwn.net/Articles/753646/  questions 
wether there is a need for a safe space or not in open source projects. I’m 
taking this example, because it shows how power and privilege iin a community 
can be used to influence « keeping a joke that is upsetting to some ». 

So the question of « censorship » is central, but it usually has a pending side 
: who is silenced, whose voice is not being heard?  I like the way the Django 
FAQ adresses the problem of « censorship » in a community 

https://www.djangoproject.com/conduct/faq/ 


Quote from the above :
This is censorship! I have the right to say whatever I want

You do -- in your space. If you'd like to hang out in our spaces (as clarified 
above), we have some simple guidelines to follow. If you want to, for example, 
form a group where Django is discussed using language inappropriate for general 
channels then nobody's stopping you. We respect your right to establish 
whatever codes of conduct you want in the spaces that belong to you. Please 
honor this Code of Conduct in our spaces.


https://web.archive.org/web/20141109123859/http://speakup.io/coc.html 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] A Universal Code of Conduct draft for review

2020-09-10 Thread Natacha Rault via Wikimedia-l
Hello,

A code of conduct id something many of us have asked the WMF to write for many 
years. We are asking the WMF to take an active part in stopping abusive 
behaviors in our community.

On fr wiki, many admins say they are tired of conflicts and that they did not 
enroll to deal with them. A code of conduct could help then take action because 
it offers a frame. 

This is COMPLETELY different with the branding process. 

We are one of the few projects in the open source world without a code of 
conduct.

So thank you for this draft, thank you for opening up for discussions, and I 
hope the language will remain respectful.

I believe moderators should ban from this list the person who spoke about « wmf 
flatulence ». 


 I dont want to read that type of language among people who are supposedly 
asked to write neutral enccyclopedias. 

It puts pressure and stress on those who would like to answer on this thread, 
it sets an aggressive climate. 

Please could we all feel empowered to  apply our founding principles and refuse 
any such language here and on meta in these discussions? 

Kind regards, 

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> Le 10 sept. 2020 à 03:53, Gnangarra  a écrit :
> 
> Yair
> 
> I was in the room in 2017 when the first community consultation on the
> strategy program took place. Affiliates were asked to send a person
> specifically for the strategy process, and  WMF also invited some other
> community members. There was absolutely no coercion, or control over what
> topics were raised during those discussions. The program was not run by the
> WMF and everyone was free to contribute any ideas they had, as the program
> went on we chose which areas and topics we wanted to be the focus. Trust
> and safety, and user conduct were areas that were identified as necessary
> to the future development of the movement. This process has been open for
> ideas, comments, and suggestions. Yes the WMF has funded the process but
> every choice has been made by community members without any duress or
> reward as to where each step lead.
> 
> As someone who actively runs projects for the last 10 years to bring in new
> contributors, I have concerns about the UCoC process in giving advantages
> to those who have been around longer but that is not something that will be
> unique to this as its already an issue in all projects where the new person
> is the one frequently dismissed as wrong when there is a clash between
> them and someone who has been around long enough to be known.
> 
> 
> 
>> On Thu, 10 Sep 2020 at 09:11, Yair Rand  wrote:
>> 
>> The UCoC is obviously a WMF-driven project. It was announced in June 2019
>> by a member of the WMF Trust and Safety team, was added to the strategy
>> process by the group of WMF appointees (or sometimes WMF
>> appointee-appointees) who made up the working group, had
>> pseudo-consultations about it started by WMF staff (with wildly-misleading
>> reports written up afterward, again by the WMF), and the UCoC itself was
>> drafted by a mixed group of WMF staff and WMF appointees, through a process
>> set by the WMF.
>> 
>> The communities have repeatedly expressed unambiguous consensus against
>> having a WMF-imposed UCoC. The WMF has absolutely no business in setting
>> ordinary conduct policy, and they could have the ED and every board member
>> and C-level declare the UCoC to be policy, and threaten every affiliate
>> into declaring it as policy, and the only impact would be demonstrating how
>> far removed they are from Wikimedia. The communities are self-governing and
>> will implement policy based on community decisions.
>> 
>> That said,  I disagree with Dan's calls for nonparticipation/noncooperation
>> or for specifically withholding funds or support. If we end up in a
>> situation where the WMF tries to block, desysop, threaten, or sue
>> contributors, or to seize control over the projects, that would be the time
>> for all editors and affiliates and donors to level-headedly level the
>> Foundation to its foundations. Until then, we should attempt to work with
>> them, even when their behaviour leaves much to be desired.
>> 
>> -- Yair Rand
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ‫בתאריך יום ד׳, 9 בספט׳ 2020 ב-16:03 מאת ‪Jackie‬‏ <‪
>> jackie.koer...@gmail.com‬‏>:‬
>> 
>>> Hi Dan,
>>> 
>>> I hear that you are upset by the suggestion and likely implementation of
>> a
>>> Universal Code of Conduct. I also hear that you feel like this is a
>>> WMF-driven project. I cannot change your opinion about the UCoC, but I
>> can
>>> say your feelings about this being a WMF-driven project are untrue. It
>>> doesn't matter how strongly you feel this, it's actually many groups of
>>> people working together. It was determined as a major need during
>>> discussions I had as part of the Community Health Working Group and I am
>>> glad to see this moving forward.
>>> 
>>> I am glad you feel comfortable expressing yourself and your feelings
>> about
>>> the UCoC. I also would like to say the way 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] June 4 1800 Maggie Dennis office hour (with a twist)

2020-06-05 Thread Natacha Rault via Wikimedia-l
Yes thank you very much. I really liked the sincerity and the straight to the 
point amswers. It feels great to be listened at and given sincere answers. 

Make this call a best practice, it rocked. 

Warm regards, 

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> Le 4 juin 2020 à 22:16, Tito Dutta  a écrit :
> 
> True, (because of connectivity issues I was disconnected for some time).
> Thanks Maggie for answering the questions and clarifying things. All the
> best and good wishes.
> 
> Thanks
> Tito Dutta
> Note: If I don't reply to your email in 2 days, please feel free to remind
> me over email or phone call.
> 
> 
>> On Fri, 5 Jun 2020 at 01:17, Aron Manning  wrote:
>> 
>> Thank you, Maggie, Elena and Nick for this meeting!
>> 
>> The event was very well organized on the first try, focused and
>> informative.
>> Special thanks to Maggie for tirelessly answering all the questions and
>> giving insight to the wide spectrum of challenges.
>> 
>> It was great to hear that transparency will be an important part of the
>> processes to be developed and that the communities will be involved in
>> working out the details. I think this is going in the right direction to
>> establish trust and cooperation with the communities and a mutually
>> agreeable outcome.
>> 
>> Thank you to all participants and I hope there will be more meetings as
>> this project progresses!
>> 
>> 
>> Aron
>> 
>> 
>>> On Tue, 2 Jun 2020 at 23:24, Maggie Dennis  wrote:
>>> 
>>> We will post notes from the meeting, with the identity of question-askers
>>> anonymized, afterward. Questions can be submitted on Telegram [1], on IRC
>>> [2] or in the YouTube Chat or by email in advance to
>> answ...@wikimedia.org
>>> (To make sure they are presented during this meeting, please use “Trust &
>>> Safety” as the subject line.)
>>> 
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of Les sans pagEs User Group

2020-02-19 Thread Natacha Rault via Wikimedia-l
Thank you for this announcement! And to all the wonderful people, contributors 
and organisations (Wikimedia France, Wikimedia CH and the WMF) who have helped 
us achieve this goal. 

A special thanks to Anthere who did all the preliminary work to achieve this.

With wiki love

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> Le 18 févr. 2020 à 12:09, GERBET Remy via Wikimedia-l 
>  a écrit :
> 
> Congratulations to this wonderfull group :) 
> 
> Gerbet Rémy
> 
> Délégué
> opérationnel 
> _07 84 37 91
> 04_
> 
> _---__-_
> 
> 
> WIKIMEDIA FRANCE
> Association pour le libre partage de la
> connaissance
> _WWW.WIKIMEDIA.FR [1] _ 
> 
> _40 rue de clery, __75002 Paris_ 
> [2] 
> _ _ _ [3]_ 
> 
> Le 2020-02-18 07:41, Camelia Boban a écrit :
> 
>> Happy
> for this.
>> Congratulations to the group members ❤.
>> 
>> Camelia
>> 
>> 
> --
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>> 
>> *| Java EE Developer |*
>> 
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>> Il giorno mar
> 18 feb 2020 alle ore 02:33 Lucas Werkmeister <
>> 
> m...@lucaswerkmeister.de> ha scritto:
>> 
>>> That sounds great,
> congratulations to the group and all the best for
>>> your future
> work!
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Lucas
>>> 
>>> On 17.02.20 20:05, Rosie
> Stephenson-Goodknight wrote:
 Hi everyone!
 
 
 
 I'm very
> happy to announce that the Affiliations Committee has recognized
 [1]
> Les sans pagEs [2] as a Wikimedia User Group. The group aims to be a
 
> community effort and an association for users who work on issues
> related
>>> to
 women and gender issues and more generally to
> diversity (territorial,
 cultural, linguistic, generational, gender,
> attitudinal and ability,
>>> etc.)
 within the French speaking
> wikimedia movement.
 
 
 
 Please join me in congratulating the
> members of this new user group!
 
 
 
 Regards,
 
 Rosie
> Stephenson-Goodknight
 
 Chair, Affiliations
> Committee
 
 
 
 [1]
 
>>> 
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee/Resolutions/Recognition_of_Les_sans_pagEs_User_Group
 
 
> [2]  https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Les_sans_pagEs
 
 
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Welcome back, Turkey

2020-01-17 Thread Natacha Rault via Wikimedia-l
Great news and welcome back indeed,
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> Le 16 janv. 2020 à 19:25, Rupika Sharma  a écrit :
> 
> Thank for sharing the wonderful news Amanda! Welcome back Turkey!!
> 
> Warmly,
> Rupika
> 
>> On Thu, Jan 16, 2020, 11:51 PM Amanda Keton  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi everyone,
>> 
>> My name is Amanda Keton, the new General Counsel at the Wikimedia
>> Foundation. While Katherine is inflight traveling back from a busy week of
>> community meetings in Chile, I wanted to share the exciting news that
>> today, we have started to receive reports that the block of Wikipedia in
>> Turkey is being lifted, data which is also indicated by our internal
>> traffic reports. After more than two and a half years, access to Wikipedia
>> has been restored in Turkey - and on a timely occasion, as we celebrate
>> Wikipedia’s 19th birthday today!
>> 
>> Please join me in welcoming back our friends and colleagues from Turkey.
>> While many have remained active during the block, restoring access to
>> Wikipedia will allow thousands more to return in the days and weeks ahead.
>> It is our shared responsibility and honor to help make them feel welcome
>> again and make sure they know how much we missed them. I am confident that
>> our community will successfully welcome them back with open arms. I know we
>> have community members around the world who have been eagerly looking
>> forward to the block being lifted and brainstorming activities to
>> celebrate, and I welcome them to share their ideas as we move forward.
>> 
>> Our case in the European Court of Human Rights (ECHR) is also still
>> pending, and remains important even in light of the unblock as a way to
>> continue advocating for strong protections for free expression online. We
>> will continue to post updates about the next steps in our case before the
>> ECHR on the Wikimedia Foundation website. We have also published a
>> statement to reflect that access has now been restored in Turkey. [1]
>> 
>> Thank you all for your efforts, kind words, and encouraging thoughts as we
>> worked to restore access to Wikipedia in Turkey. I want to thank our
>> Turkish community, in particular, for their patience, resolution, and
>> continued participation in the movement during the more than two and a half
>> years Wikipedia was inaccessible. This was a prolonged global effort, on
>> behalf of free knowledge everywhere.
>> 
>> Of course, there are other blocks around the world still in place, and our
>> efforts in addressing this type of censorship of knowledge is far from
>> over. That said, I hope all of you will celebrate this momentous
>> accomplishment for free knowledge today and join me in welcoming back the
>> people of Turkey to our projects, movement, and community.
>> 
>> With gratitude,
>> 
>> Amanda
>> 
>> [1]
>> 
>> https://wikimediafoundation.org/news/2020/01/16/access-to-wikipedia-restored-in-turkey-after-more-than-two-and-a-half-years/
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia is going to be available in turkey again

2019-12-26 Thread Natacha Rault via Wikimedia-l
Great news! Thanks for sharing 
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> Le 26 déc. 2019 à 21:24, RhinosF1 -  a écrit :
> 
> Well done to everyone who fought for the freedom.
> 
> RhinosF1
> 
>> On Thu, 26 Dec 2019 at 13:16, Rajeeb Dutta  wrote:
>> 
>> A wonderful news to end 2019, thanks for the update.
>> 
>> Best Regards,
>> Rajeeb Dutta.
>> (U: Marajozkee)
>> (Sent from my iPhone pardon the brevity)
>> 
>>> On 26-Dec-2019, at 6:40 PM, Abhinav srivastava 
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> This is a wonderful news! Thanks for sharing.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Thu, Dec 26, 2019, 6:22 PM Shlomi Fish 
>> wrote:
 
 On Thu, 26 Dec 2019 16:10:09 +0330
 Mardetanha  wrote:
 
> Dear friends and colleagues
> before new year I would like to share the wonderful news that we
>> received
> today. Turkey's Constitutional Court finds that the Wikipedia ban
> constitutes a violation of the right to freedom of expression. The high
> court also requests Ankara 1st Criminal Judgeship of Peace to remove
>> the
> ban immediately. Wikipedia has been banned since Apr 2017.
> 
 
 Great news! Thanks for sharing.
 
> 
> Mardetanha
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] "The Foundation does not care so much of the French-speaking contributors"

2019-09-19 Thread Natacha Rault via Wikimedia-l
I think Florence resumed quite well what I was trying to express. 
It’s not a criticism - its a fact : I would have been happy to chat with her to 
understand the ligic behind the recent rapid grant changes. 
Kind regards,
Nattes à chat

> Le 16 sept. 2019 à 13:14, Florence Devouard  a écrit :
> 
> Sorry to say Jane, but your answer strikes me as being completely beside the 
> point :(
> 
> The issue Natachat was raising is related to funding our local activities, a 
> situation currently made difficult by the new rapid grant system (*) She gave 
> the example of the Art and Feminism, but this is a single example and other 
> projects are also impacted by those changes.
> I do not see how a problem with WMF funding scheme could be solved by talking 
> to other volunteers. I very much doubt Natachat would need Valerie to explain 
> her how to set up and run a local project on gender-gap issues. We are 
> slightly beyond this...
> 
> The bottom line is that the community engagement department changed a LOT in 
> the past few months, with arrivals and departures. And this department is 
> essential for the smoothness of volunteer-run initiatives.
> 
> So yes, it was to be expected that the project leads would have been happy to 
> meet WMF staff to have the opportunity to better understand the changes and 
> the new directions the WMF is heading to.
> 
> Florence
> 
> 
> * in the new system, grant requests for some targetted drive (such as art and 
> feminism or wiki loves) must be made during specific time frame. The idea in 
> itself is not a bad one and could help the grant team to be more efficient. 
> The problem is that the agenda is too tight, which means volunteers have to 
> start activities before they get the financial support and to a certain 
> extent even start the activities before they get the approval of support.
> 
>> Le 16/09/2019 à 08:45, Jane Darnell a écrit :
>> As far as Art+Feminism goes, this project concentrates on biographies of
>> female artists. The English Wikipedia project "Women in Red" is open 24x7
>> all year round and concentrates on biographies of women on English
>> Wikipedia, period. So you can take all of your local Wikipedia questions
>> about A+F to your local WiR women for each non-English Wikipedia, and if
>> there is no overlap yet, I suggest starting your own local A+F/WiR in your
>> local Wikipedia. We should probably start a multi-lingual one for Commons,
>> since it has proven so difficult to get pictures of female artists to
>> illustrate articles about them.
>> On Sun, Sep 15, 2019 at 8:27 PM Natacha Rault via Wikimedia-l <
>> wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org> wrote:
>>> Thank you Thierry. To be honnest a few of us were really waiting for
>>> Valerie D'Costa, the new Chief of Community Engagement because we had
>>> questions for her about the new rapid grant funding agenda which seems
>>> totally inadapted to volunteer’s need in terms of flexibility. One has to
>>> wait a soecific month for Art+feminism and very often the timing has not
>>> been adapted to when the events are actually taking place. For a volunteer
>>> this is way too procedural. We need more flexibility.
>>> We had other questions regarding the departure of several people which
>>> were very important for the gender gap.
>>> So ... Some of us were disappointed indeed.
>>> Kind regards,
>>> Natacha
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Le 15 sept. 2019 à 20:02, Thierry Coudray  a écrit :
>>>> 
>>>> Valerie D'Costa, the new Chief of Community Engagement,
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcing the extension of funding by the Basque Government

2019-09-18 Thread Natacha Rault via Wikimedia-l
Great news and great example! Thanks for sharing with us,
Nattes à chat

> Le 18 sept. 2019 à 17:17, Alex Stinson  a écrit :
> 
> Thats Fantastic! Congratulations!
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Alex
> 
>> On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 10:20 AM Asaf Bartov  wrote:
>> 
>> Fantastic news, Galder!  Kudos to everyone involved!
>> 
>>   A.
>> 
>> On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 5:17 PM Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga <
>> galder...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Dear wikimedians,
>>> Three years have gone since we started with the Basque Wikimedians User
>>> Group Education Program, funded by the Basque Government. After two years
>>> and a half of great enhancing of Basque Wikipedia (more than 2.500
>> students
>>> adding more than 1.5 million words on fundamental topics) the Basque
>>> Government has announce us today the extension of the funding for four
>> more
>>> years.
>>> 
>>> In this four years we will try to strengthen our Educaton Program but
>> also
>>> open to new areas in order to make our knowledge equity vision possible.
>> By
>>> 2024 we will have taken sure steps towards creating a free knowledge
>>> ecosystem centered at Wikimedia.
>>> 
>>> Sincerely,
>>> 
>>> Galder
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] "The Foundation does not care so much of the French-speaking contributors"

2019-09-17 Thread Natacha Rault via Wikimedia-l
Merci Delphine! Et moi je travaillais donc je n’ai pas pu faire les 
pre-learning days.
Est-ce que ta présentation est en ligne? 
Bien à toi, 
Natacha 

> Le 17 sept. 2019 à 15:14, Delphine Ménard  a écrit :
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I participated in the pre-conference in Brussels this year, to which I was
> invited to give a workshop about grants. I decided not to stay the whole 4
> days because of personal commitments too.
> 
> Mais si tu as des questions sur les grants, je suis là :)
> 
> Best,
> 
> Delphine
> 
> On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 7:04 AM Natacha Rault via Wikimedia-l <
> wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org> wrote:
> 
>> Thank you Katherine,
>> We will be happy to see you in Tunis!
>> Along with other reps of the WMF I hope, with the possibility of booking
>> appointments with :
>> - T
>> - outreach
>> - grant rep
>> - tech rep
>> Kind regards,
>> 
>> Nattes à chat
>> 
>>> Le 16 sept. 2019 à 23:54, Katherine Maher  a
>> écrit :
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> Just a quick note that I was invited to Wikiconvention on Friday 9 August
>>> by Wikimedia France. On Monday 12 August (delayed by travel to
>> Wikimania!)
>>> I sent a note expressing my regrets, as I had a family wedding to attend
>>> during that same weekend as the Convention. I also asked at the same time
>>> to be notified as soon as the 2020 Tunis dates were confirmed, so that I
>> or
>>> other members of the Foundation's leadership team are able to plan to
>>> attend (and I have already put those dates in my calendar).
>>> 
>>> Unfortunately, as all volunteers know, sometimes personal/family
>>> commitments do preclude travel. I similarly cannot attend the CEE
>>> Conference due to a personal commitment this year. Sometimes there are
>> also
>>> scheduling conflicts: This year the German-speaking WikiCon gathering is
>>> the same weekend as WikiArabia, and WikiCon North America is the same
>>> weekend as WikiIndaba. This means there's always going to be a sense of
>>> missing something important!
>>> 
>>> I would also agree with what Leila shared. I was very appreciative to be
>>> invited to Wikiconvention, WikiArabia, and WikiIndaba this year. But I
>> want
>>> to respect that not every community feels that it is the place of the
>>> Foundation's ED to participate or speak at their events, and that's
>> totally
>>> fine. I don't think people always need to hear from me, but I am always
>>> very happy to support any event in which I am invited!
>>> 
>>> Katherine
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Sep 16, 2019 at 2:25 PM Natacha Rault via Wikimedia-l <
>>> wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Thanks for sharing this Leila! This is of course a useful angle.
>>>> Nattes
>>>> 
>>>>> Le 16 sept. 2019 à 21:51, Leila Zia  a écrit :
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> 
>>>>> A different angle for looking at the question of WMF staff attending
>>>>> community events which may help this conversation:
>>>>> 
>>>>> As a staff member (and acknowledging that my position is none of the
>>>>> ones Thierry called out in their first email on this thread), with the
>>>>> exception of a few community events, I very much hesitate to attend a
>>>>> local community-run event unless the specific community, or at least
>>>>> one person from that community, has specifically invited me or told me
>>>>> I should consider attending. There is definitely some feeling of
>>>>> fear/self-consciousness on my end about entering in a place where I
>>>>> may not be welcome, where I impose my presence to others, or entering
>>>>> conversations where my expertise may not be valued/considered because
>>>>> I'm carrying a history which may or may not even be really mine.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'm sharing my feelings and the way I think about whether to attend a
>>>>> local event or not here not to ask for empathy in my specific case
>>>>> (which is btw, always welcomed:) but to say that there may be other
>>>>> staff members like me, especially those who have joined WMF more
>>>>> recently, who may be in the same boat. My recommendation would be for
>>>>> the local communities to signal to the specific people which they want
>>>>> in the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] "The Foundation does not care so much of the French-speaking contributors"

2019-09-17 Thread Natacha Rault via Wikimedia-l
I love the idea of “This
Month in Diversity” although I dont like the word “diversity” 
Nattez 
> Le 17 sept. 2019 à 10:29, Jane Darnell  a écrit :
> 
> This
> Month in Diversity


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Re: [Wikimedia-l] "The Foundation does not care so much of the French-speaking contributors"

2019-09-16 Thread Natacha Rault via Wikimedia-l
Thank you Katherine,
We will be happy to see you in Tunis!
Along with other reps of the WMF I hope, with the possibility of booking 
appointments with :
- T
- outreach
- grant rep
- tech rep
Kind regards, 

Nattes à chat 

> Le 16 sept. 2019 à 23:54, Katherine Maher  a écrit :
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Just a quick note that I was invited to Wikiconvention on Friday 9 August
> by Wikimedia France. On Monday 12 August (delayed by travel to Wikimania!)
> I sent a note expressing my regrets, as I had a family wedding to attend
> during that same weekend as the Convention. I also asked at the same time
> to be notified as soon as the 2020 Tunis dates were confirmed, so that I or
> other members of the Foundation's leadership team are able to plan to
> attend (and I have already put those dates in my calendar).
> 
> Unfortunately, as all volunteers know, sometimes personal/family
> commitments do preclude travel. I similarly cannot attend the CEE
> Conference due to a personal commitment this year. Sometimes there are also
> scheduling conflicts: This year the German-speaking WikiCon gathering is
> the same weekend as WikiArabia, and WikiCon North America is the same
> weekend as WikiIndaba. This means there's always going to be a sense of
> missing something important!
> 
> I would also agree with what Leila shared. I was very appreciative to be
> invited to Wikiconvention, WikiArabia, and WikiIndaba this year. But I want
> to respect that not every community feels that it is the place of the
> Foundation's ED to participate or speak at their events, and that's totally
> fine. I don't think people always need to hear from me, but I am always
> very happy to support any event in which I am invited!
> 
> Katherine
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Sep 16, 2019 at 2:25 PM Natacha Rault via Wikimedia-l <
> wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org> wrote:
> 
>> Thanks for sharing this Leila! This is of course a useful angle.
>> Nattes
>> 
>>> Le 16 sept. 2019 à 21:51, Leila Zia  a écrit :
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> A different angle for looking at the question of WMF staff attending
>>> community events which may help this conversation:
>>> 
>>> As a staff member (and acknowledging that my position is none of the
>>> ones Thierry called out in their first email on this thread), with the
>>> exception of a few community events, I very much hesitate to attend a
>>> local community-run event unless the specific community, or at least
>>> one person from that community, has specifically invited me or told me
>>> I should consider attending. There is definitely some feeling of
>>> fear/self-consciousness on my end about entering in a place where I
>>> may not be welcome, where I impose my presence to others, or entering
>>> conversations where my expertise may not be valued/considered because
>>> I'm carrying a history which may or may not even be really mine.
>>> 
>>> I'm sharing my feelings and the way I think about whether to attend a
>>> local event or not here not to ask for empathy in my specific case
>>> (which is btw, always welcomed:) but to say that there may be other
>>> staff members like me, especially those who have joined WMF more
>>> recently, who may be in the same boat. My recommendation would be for
>>> the local communities to signal to the specific people which they want
>>> in their meetings that they're welcome to attend. At least this way
>>> you will know the person has felt invited/welcomed and will have a
>>> higher chance to decide to attend.
>>> 
>>> To be clear: I'm not saying WMF not attending this specific event
>>> would have been addressed by the above. I don't know. I'm just
>>> explaining one of the reasons this may have happened, and providing a
>>> suggestion to address this specific reason.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> Leila
>>> --
>>> Leila Zia
>>> Principal Research Scientist, Head of Research
>>> Wikimedia Foundation
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Sep 16, 2019 at 4:20 AM Philip Kopetzky
>>>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Gereon, you clearly forget the whole Mediaviewer saga and attendance of
>> WMF
>>>> staff at the following WikiCon in Cologne ;-) But that was a long time
>> ago
>>>> :-)
>>>> 
>>>>> On Mon, 16 Sep 2019 at 01:53, Gereon Kalkuhl 
>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Since 2010 we have the WikiCon for the German language communities with
>>>>> more than 300 attendants. I don't remember that the WMF has sent anyo

Re: [Wikimedia-l] "The Foundation does not care so much of the French-speaking contributors"

2019-09-16 Thread Natacha Rault via Wikimedia-l
Hi Jane,
Thank you for your answer, but I think I did not make my point clear enough 
given the answer you made. 
On the francophone wiki there is not “local WIR”. There are a few sister 
projects like les sans pages of which I am the founder (so people might turn to 
me  for questions) or ateliers femmes et féminismes, Wikimatrimoine ect. I 
think we view WIR as a sister project, not as an umbrella. We would like equal 
access to ressources, finance and management, which is why it is important for 
us to have WMF reps at our regional events. Local chapters are great, but it’s 
not the same. I have tried to go to as many international events as possible, 
because this is where you learn about the politics and new tools and financing 
possibilities. I could not go most of the time because our project was very 
successful. and nearly every two week two there are events and because I have a 
family too, and limited finances. So yes, having a person representing outreach 
would have been great. I think we need T and Outreach to be there, with the 
possibility of booking appointments. 

I was writing about rapid grants not questions about wikipedia, saying  that 
local reps are worried about the way rapid grants have been designed with 
timing to apply according to themes.
See https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Project/Rapid/Learn
What was great about rapid grants was:
-flexibility : you could ask for funding anytime and receive it within 3 weeks 
(now you have to apply between the 1rst and 15th of each month and decision is 
made one month after)
- for certain themes you can only apply at certain time in the year making it 
very rigid. No doubt volunteers will miss lots of opportunities because of 
this. 
IMO the major asset of the rapid grants, flexibiiity and speed to adapt to 
volunteers fluctuating engagement is now gone. Why? 

I copy and paste below the new rules. I was wondering why this new ruling is in 
place as it seems to some volunteers very complicated and rigid as opposed to 
the last system.
I was wondering if the advice of volunteers was taken into account. 

You must submit your application between the 1st and 15th of each month. Please 
plan to make your applications accordingly, so you will have a decision about 
your grant within the timeframe you need to plan your event. Decisions will be 
made by the 15th of the following month.
In the months specified below, we will prioritize support to contests and 
campaigns. These months will be solely dedicated to different contests 
throughout the year:
August: only receiving proposals for Wiki Loves Monuments
September: only receiving proposals for Awareness Grants(campaign)
December: only receiving proposals for Wiki Loves Africa
January: only receiving proposals for Art + Feminism (campaign)
March: only receiving proposals for Wiki Loves Earth
Outside the months specified above, proposals are welcomed in all other 
categories: edit-a-thons, contests, photowalks, general promotion campaigns, 
and video campaigns. We will also consider proposals outside of these 
categories, such as software development.
I hope I have clarified a little what I meant, which is basically that WMF is 
so useful that until regional hubs are set up if they are, we need them more 
present at our events. 

Kind regards,
Natacha 

> Le 16 sept. 2019 à 08:45, Jane Darnell  a écrit :
> 
> As far as Art+Feminism goes, this project concentrates on biographies of
> female artists. The English Wikipedia project "Women in Red" is open 24x7
> all year round and concentrates on biographies of women on English
> Wikipedia, period. So you can take all of your local Wikipedia questions
> about A+F to your local WiR women for each non-English Wikipedia, and if
> there is no overlap yet, I suggest starting your own local A+F/WiR in your
> local Wikipedia. We should probably start a multi-lingual one for Commons,
> since it has proven so difficult to get pictures of female artists to
> illustrate articles about them.
> 
> On Sun, Sep 15, 2019 at 8:27 PM Natacha Rault via Wikimedia-l <
> wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org> wrote:
> 
>> Thank you Thierry. To be honnest a few of us were really waiting for
>> Valerie D'Costa, the new Chief of Community Engagement because we had
>> questions for her about the new rapid grant funding agenda which seems
>> totally inadapted to volunteer’s need in terms of flexibility. One has to
>> wait a soecific month for Art+feminism and very often the timing has not
>> been adapted to when the events are actually taking place. For a volunteer
>> this is way too procedural. We need more flexibility.
>> We had other questions regarding the departure of several people which
>> were very important for the gender gap.
>> So ... Some of us were disappointed indeed.
>> Kind regards,
>> Natacha

Re: [Wikimedia-l] "The Foundation does not care so much of the French-speaking contributors"

2019-09-16 Thread Natacha Rault via Wikimedia-l
Thanks for sharing this Leila! This is of course a useful angle. 
Nattes

> Le 16 sept. 2019 à 21:51, Leila Zia  a écrit :
> 
> Hi,
> 
> A different angle for looking at the question of WMF staff attending
> community events which may help this conversation:
> 
> As a staff member (and acknowledging that my position is none of the
> ones Thierry called out in their first email on this thread), with the
> exception of a few community events, I very much hesitate to attend a
> local community-run event unless the specific community, or at least
> one person from that community, has specifically invited me or told me
> I should consider attending. There is definitely some feeling of
> fear/self-consciousness on my end about entering in a place where I
> may not be welcome, where I impose my presence to others, or entering
> conversations where my expertise may not be valued/considered because
> I'm carrying a history which may or may not even be really mine.
> 
> I'm sharing my feelings and the way I think about whether to attend a
> local event or not here not to ask for empathy in my specific case
> (which is btw, always welcomed:) but to say that there may be other
> staff members like me, especially those who have joined WMF more
> recently, who may be in the same boat. My recommendation would be for
> the local communities to signal to the specific people which they want
> in their meetings that they're welcome to attend. At least this way
> you will know the person has felt invited/welcomed and will have a
> higher chance to decide to attend.
> 
> To be clear: I'm not saying WMF not attending this specific event
> would have been addressed by the above. I don't know. I'm just
> explaining one of the reasons this may have happened, and providing a
> suggestion to address this specific reason.
> 
> Best,
> Leila
> --
> Leila Zia
> Principal Research Scientist, Head of Research
> Wikimedia Foundation
> 
> On Mon, Sep 16, 2019 at 4:20 AM Philip Kopetzky
>  wrote:
>> 
>> Gereon, you clearly forget the whole Mediaviewer saga and attendance of WMF
>> staff at the following WikiCon in Cologne ;-) But that was a long time ago
>> :-)
>> 
>>> On Mon, 16 Sep 2019 at 01:53, Gereon Kalkuhl  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Since 2010 we have the WikiCon for the German language communities with
>>> more than 300 attendants. I don't remember that the WMF has sent anyone
>>> to these conventions. And why should they? It's all in German, the
>>> communities are established and have strong chapters. I suppose the same
>>> applies to the French language communites. The WMF visits emerging
>>> communities, to learn about them and to help them by transfering
>>> knowlege. They visit the CEE meetings, they visit Wiki Indabas. I don't
>>> think that the WMF is neglecting big communities, it rather makes sense
>>> that when sending employes across half the planet they check before,
>>> what benefits the conferences have from their attendance and what
>>> benefits their attendance bring to the particpants of the conference.
>>> Cheers, Gereon
>>> 
 Am 15.09.2019 um 20:02 schrieb Thierry Coudray:
 "*The Foundation does not care so much of the French-speaking
>>> contributors*".
 This harsh sentence is the translation of a statement in French, I've
>>> just
 said in a conversation a week ago at the Francophone Wikiconvention held
 last weekend in Brussels. The statement may seem excessive, because the
 Foundation does things for the Francophone community as well as for other
 communities (and its website is fairly well translated into French). But
>>> it
 reflected my feeling, shared by my three interlocutors, all non-French,
 facing that no Foundation high-level members were present to this
 Wikiconvention: no executive director, nor members of the Board, nor any
 level-C staff. In an another conversation, where the subject came up over
 again, someone said this absence was offensive. I do not know if it
 reflects the majority of attendees feelings but with varying degrees, I
 would said it was widely shared.
 
 In 2017, for the Francophone Wikiconvention in Strasbourg we had a very
 quick visit of Katherine Maher, in 2018, a simple video message and in
>>> 2019
 ... nothing. At the same time, the Francophone Wikiconvention has stepped
 up with ever more participants, always more countries represented. This
 year, it brought together more than 220 Francophones, Algerian, Belgian,
 Beninese, Cameroonian, Canadian, French, Guinean, Ivorian, Swiss and
 Tunisian contributors, and I may forget some, with varied and enriching
 conferences and meetings. A huge success, very well organized by
>>> employees
 but also by several volunteers, who dedicated time and energy. This
 Wikiconvention and the projects and achievements submitted have shown the
 French-speaking Wikimedia community vitality, which will continue to
>>> grow.
 FYI, French is 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] "The Foundation does not care so much of the French-speaking contributors"

2019-09-15 Thread Natacha Rault via Wikimedia-l
Thank you Thierry. To be honnest a few of us were really waiting for Valerie 
D'Costa, the new Chief of Community Engagement because we had questions for her 
about the new rapid grant funding agenda which seems totally inadapted to 
volunteer’s need in terms of flexibility. One has to wait a soecific month for 
Art+feminism and very often the timing has not been adapted to when the events 
are actually taking place. For a volunteer this is way too procedural. We need 
more flexibility. 
We had other questions regarding the departure of several people which were 
very important for the gender gap. 
So ... Some of us were disappointed indeed. 
Kind regards,
Natacha 



> Le 15 sept. 2019 à 20:02, Thierry Coudray  a écrit :
> 
> Valerie D'Costa, the new Chief of Community Engagement,


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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Some goodbye to all

2019-06-20 Thread Natacha Rault via Wikimedia-l
First of all I don’t know the context of this conversation. I know that I 
personnally find that the actions of  Trust& Safety  very valuable and wise. I 
totally support and trust their judgement. 

I am tired of seing their work criticized, and do not appreciate official 
chapter representants and employees publicly supporting alleged offenders, 
showing no aknowledgement of the fact that this is very toxic for alleged 
victims, and does not help to change attitude towards issues of harrassment. 

How can we feel safe in the movement if the decisions of T are questionned by 
official members of our movement? 

Nattes à chat





Le 21 juin 2019 à 01:04, Chris Keating  a écrit :

>> 
>> It is extremely disappointing, and *extremely typical* of the Wikimedia
>> movement, to see an entire thread like this dedicated to supporting someone
>> who Trust & Safety has found to have acted in such a way that they had to
>> intervene. It is even more disappointing to see a person who was affected
>> by his actions told "this is not your story" and "it may help you when you
>> grow some sensitivity and respect this experience, the
>> feelings of others."
>> 
>> If you're wondering why women leave the Wikimedia movement, and why
>> Wikimedia has such a bad harassment problem in general, just reflect on
>> this thread.
> 
> 
> Thank you, Molly, for expressing what I was just trying to summon the
> energy to write.
> 
> Chris
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] ¿Qué te hace feliz esta semana? / What's making you happy this week?

2019-06-12 Thread Natacha Rault via Wikimedia-l
What’s making me happy is also sad (how can one separate hapiness from sadness 
as you obviously need one to measure the other). My mom is in hospital, her 
breath cancer spreaded again with metastasis. Yep, looks bad. 

But I discovered a thread which was shared on twitter by francophone 
wikipedians by the sixth form poet and we laughed so much... I had to stop 
reading the puns as she held her sides telling me it was hurting her. 

It was great she could forget the pain for a moment. #metoo

Here is one of his puns : 
https://twitter.com/sixthformpoet/status/617649146841989120?s=21

People found guilty of not using punctuation deserve the longest sentence 
possible.

We also appreciated the story of the cemetary. Weird but sweet. 
https://twitter.com/sixthformpoet/status/1137658720698228736?s=21


And another thing, in times of great pressure, I take time to make myself a 
vegan jogurt, very very slowly. This is how it looks like : 
Cos wikimedian geeks need to get involved in some kind of earthly activities 
for a change and to balance the sometimes extreme emotions we experience in our 
heated debates. I will also at one point when it stops raining take a book and 
wander of the Rhone with my kayak to find moments of peace : 



If you come to Geneva and you want a ride, shout (you will probably have to 
bring earplugs too if you want a peaceful ride as I am an awful chatterbox). 

That’s all geeks! 

Nattes à chat

> Le 11 juin 2019 à 22:09, Pine W  a écrit :
> 
> Hello colleagues,
> 
> I hope that you feel welcome to add your own comments to this email thread.
> Your participation would be appreciated, including starting these threads
> in future weeks.
> 
> I like this
> 
> Commons Picture of the Day. The photo is of a sun parakeet. The photo was
> taken on the Canary Islands.
> 
> The May issue 
> of *This Month in GLAM* was published.
> 
> What's making you happy this week? You are welcome to comment in any
> language.
> 
> Pine
> ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine )
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thank you and farewell

2019-05-17 Thread Natacha Rault via Wikimedia-l
Dear Sati,

I wish you all the best for the future and I feel like we are losing a very 
valuable person. 
Thank for sharing your thoughts about the “limit of knowledge”. Of course some 
of us would certainly like to know why we are losing you. I would in any case. 

Kind regards,

Natacha 




>> Le 17 mai 2019 à 01:50, Isarra Yos  a écrit :
>> 
>> On 16/05/2019 23:29, Joseph Fox wrote:
>> Maybe let's not turn this into a debate about what epistemology is.
> 
> Would this really be the Wikimedia we all know and love if we didn't?
> 
> Regardless, I'm glad Sati took the time to write this up. I thought it was an 
> excellent description of just how truly terrible and wonderful things can be 
> around here, and such poetry put to words only does us good, really. Now 
> let's bikeshed!
> 
> -I
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Reviewing our brand system for our 2030 goals

2019-04-10 Thread Natacha Rault via Wikimedia-l
Thank Andrew for summing up all the issues around this rebranding issue. I 
really dont believe it should be done. 
I can’t see that  this could be done without community consultation. I doubt 
all versions of wikipedia could agree in a unanimous move. 
How would Wikipedia be named if wikimedia takes its name?
As a wikimedian, I think that Wikimedia is just a lot more than Wikipedia, and 
that the similarity of the names already establishes a link between the two. 

Kind regards, 

Natacha / Nattes à chat


> Le 10 avr. 2019 à 21:05, Andrew Lih  a écrit :
> 
> I agree with Galder's and Camelia's thoughts and believe we should slow
> down to think about this issue as a whole. We cannot, and should not,
> consider this purely a "branding" exercise because the internal and
> external risks go well beyond this. We need to carefully take them into
> consideration.
> 
> At the Berlin Wikimedia Summit, I was asked by Zack McCune and Heather
> Walls about the branding issue. We talked about this at length so here is a
> summary of what I expressed to them:
> 
> - Outside view: I respect the work the comms/branding team has done, but
> let's remember that the recommendations are from an outside consultancy
> that focuses on only one dimension of this issue. Their work does not
> consider our internal community and movement dynamics as a whole. So the
> recommendation should be seen as just one data point.
> 
> - Unproven causality: While it's true that familiarity of the "Wikimedia"
> brand is low, the case has not been made that unifying our identity under
> "Wikipedia" is a solution for the particular markets in question. There are
> many other factors regarding adoption and recognition of any brand, not
> just Wikimedia, including the commercial context of mobile/Internet users
> and default consumer entry points to the information landscape (ie. search
> engine settings, starting home page, financial incentives and
> partnerships). Other factors are: first mover advantages (e.g. Korea, with
> Naver.com's dominance over Wikipedia), or government regulation (e.g.
> China, Turkey censorship) that affect any brand footprint. Remaking our
> whole identity for the possibility that we *might* get better recognition
> in certain markets needs much more careful study.
> 
> - That was then, this is now: If this was 10 years ago, I would
> enthusiastically embrace the idea of putting everything under the Wikipedia
> umbrella. In 2003, before the WMF had staff and resources, I was one of the
> primary volunteer contacts for almost all press inquiries about Wikipedia.
> I know the headaches of having to explain what "Wikimedia" is to
> journalists and the public. The book I wrote in 2009 was titled "The
> Wikipedia Revolution" for name recognition, even though I knew "Wikimedia"
> would be more accurate. But that was then. We are a whole lot more than
> Wikipedia today.
> 
> - We stand on three legs (and more): If there was ever a time that
> Wikimedia was more than Wikipedia, it is now. The trio of Wikipedia,
> Commons and Wikidata is the bedrock of open knowledge sharing in a way that
> was not true even 3 years ago. Wikimedia Commons is a community of its own
> with users of its content who never touch Wikipedia. See the many news
> outlets and publications that use now use CC licensed Commons images to use
> as visuals for their stories and products. Wikidata has quickly emerged as
> the de facto way for libraries, archives and museums to connect their
> metadata to each other. They are adopting it as their global crosswalk
> database that has been proven to be more scalable and highly available than
> anything in the information landscape. Wikidata is now regularly
> incorporated into conferences outside of our own Wikimedia community, and
> has the largest museum and library groups (Europeana, AAC, OCLC, IFLA-WLIC,
> et al) working with it.
> 
> Many times, I've had librarians and curators tell me the equivalent of: "I
> never engaged with Wikipedia, because 'article writing' is not what we do.
> But metadata and authority control records on Wikidata coincide with what I
> do every day." I just had a phone call with a prominent museum collections
> manager who said her goal was to eliminate their own local metadata
> vocabulary in favor of using all Wikidata Q numbers instead. We are
> reaching a new public with Commons and Wikidata that many Wikipedians, and
> WMF employees, may not be aware of.
> 
> - Wikipedia has a systemic bias: The biggest problem with Wikipedia is that
> you have to know how to read. This sounds ridiculously obvious but
> consider: in developing countries, we're often looking at a maximum 70%
> literacy rate. That's a big hurdle for our strategic goal of knowledge
> equity. We have yet to tap into video, multimedia, interactive and audio
> content as a major mode of knowledge sharing. What of oral histories or
> nontraditional/non-academic forms of human knowledge? The Wikipedia
> community 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Use of Wikimedia projects for anti-LGBT+ "humour"

2019-03-06 Thread Natacha Rault via Wikimedia-l
Hi Peter, 

It

> Le 6 mars 2019 à 08:25, Peter Southwood  a 
> écrit :
> 
> Natasha,
> I seldom rush to be the first to express an opinion. It may be that this 
> humour has deeply affected some people, but it is my considered opinion that 
> they have jumped to a conclusion without due reflection themselves. Accusing 
> a person with no known history of baiting people for their gender 
> identification of doing just that, when they tried to make it clear that that 
> was not their intention within the constraints of not over-explaining a joke, 
> seems like attempting to use the article for political purposes to push an 
> agenda for special use of terminology on Wikipedia which is not used by 
> reliable sources by claiming extreme outrage. Maybe I am wrong, but that is 
> what it looks like to me. I can imagine other alternatives too, and they are 
> even worse. 
> As far as I am aware, we are having the conversation freely, so yes, by all 
> means. 
> The "joked about party" can express what they feel about such "jokes", and 
> are doing so to the extent that they appear to consider it quite OK to assume 
> that their assumption that they are the target of the jokes is true because 
> they choose to take it that way, and that the word of the author is 
> irrelevant, and that it is perfectly acceptable to harass someone because 
> they chose to be offended. This may be happening with others who do not feel 
> personally targeted too, but I don’t know what  their reasoning is.
> Cheers, 
> Peter
> 
> -Original Message-----
> From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf 
> Of Natacha Rault via Wikimedia-l
> Sent: 05 March 2019 16:12
> To: Wikimedia Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Use of Wikimedia projects for anti-LGBT+ "humour"
> 
> Hi Peter, 
> 
> Please take time to reflect that this humour has deeply affected some people 
> (and not only the persons who outed publicly taking risks), hence the 
> reaction. To those who do not understand how LGBTIQ people feel about jokes 
> on their identity and the legitimate desire that adequate language be used to 
> express it might just seem superfluous and look like an overreaction, but it 
> does echo a deep suffering which takes place after being joked about 
> virtually everywhere and not being able to express opinion when on the 
> otherside, freedom of speech is invoked to promote such jokes. Advocates of 
> freedom of speech do not try to silence opinions. 
> Just look at what happened recently in France around the Ligue du lol affair, 
> and maybe you will understand what is at stake here (1). 
> 
> Jokes are not bad in themselves, they become problematic when they 
> systematically target the same group of people (women, LGBTIQ  people, 
> minorities ect...) , and when they are issued systematically by the same 
> group of people not aware of their own priviledge, and when they are 
> disseminated through official channels. They can pave the way to problematic 
> behaviors if the « joked about party » cannot in turn express freely what 
> they feel about these jokes. 
> I have a request : can we have the conversation freely? 
> This is in no way underevaluating the value of the Signpost and the 
> remarkable work done by people like you.
> Maybe more articles on the subject of harassement and gender issues are 
> needed in the Signpost to adress this issue, to lay down the cards, and maybe 
> not in humour tone.
> To finish  I want to thank Barbara  from the bottom of my heart  for showing 
> willingness to apologize and understand (because the effect of this is 
> soothing and shows willingness to understand) and I thank Fae for speaking 
> out. 
> If all protagonists could now calm down and consider that the very fact the 
> conversation is taking place is positive, I think we would all have gained in 
> freedom of speech. 
> 
> Good afternoon, 
> 
> Nattes à chat
> 
> (1) 
> https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/12/world/europe/la-ligue-du-lol-sexual-harassment.html
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> Le 5 mars 2019 à 10:07, Peter Southwood  a 
>> écrit :
>> 
>> "When in danger or in doubt, run in circles, scream and shout."
>> Overreacting is a tradition at Wikipedia. 
>> Cheers, 
>> Peter
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf 
>> Of Michel Vuijlsteke
>> Sent: 03 March 2019 19:49
>> To: Wikimedia Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Use of Wikimedia projects for anti-LGBT+ "humour"
>> 
>> I don't understand in which possible world anyone thought this was a good

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Use of Wikimedia projects for anti-LGBT+ "humour"

2019-03-05 Thread Natacha Rault via Wikimedia-l
Hi Peter, 

Please take time to reflect that this humour has deeply affected some people 
(and not only the persons who outed publicly taking risks), hence the reaction. 
To those who do not understand how LGBTIQ people feel about jokes on their 
identity and the legitimate desire that adequate language be used to express it 
might just seem superfluous and look like an overreaction, but it does echo a 
deep suffering which takes place after being joked about virtually everywhere 
and not being able to express opinion when on the otherside, freedom of speech 
is invoked to promote such jokes. Advocates of freedom of speech do not try to 
silence opinions. 
Just look at what happened recently in France around the Ligue du lol affair, 
and maybe you will understand what is at stake here (1). 

Jokes are not bad in themselves, they become problematic when they 
systematically target the same group of people (women, LGBTIQ  people, 
minorities ect...) , and when they are issued systematically by the same group 
of people not aware of their own priviledge, and when they are disseminated 
through official channels. They can pave the way to problematic behaviors if 
the « joked about party » cannot in turn express freely what they feel about 
these jokes. 
I have a request : can we have the conversation freely? 
This is in no way underevaluating the value of the Signpost and the remarkable 
work done by people like you.
Maybe more articles on the subject of harassement and gender issues are needed 
in the Signpost to adress this issue, to lay down the cards, and maybe not in 
humour tone.
To finish  I want to thank Barbara  from the bottom of my heart  for showing 
willingness to apologize and understand (because the effect of this is soothing 
and shows willingness to understand) and I thank Fae for speaking out. 
If all protagonists could now calm down and consider that the very fact the 
conversation is taking place is positive, I think we would all have gained in 
freedom of speech. 

Good afternoon, 

Nattes à chat

(1) 
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/12/world/europe/la-ligue-du-lol-sexual-harassment.html





> Le 5 mars 2019 à 10:07, Peter Southwood  a 
> écrit :
> 
> "When in danger or in doubt, run in circles, scream and shout."
> Overreacting is a tradition at Wikipedia. 
> Cheers, 
> Peter
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf 
> Of Michel Vuijlsteke
> Sent: 03 March 2019 19:49
> To: Wikimedia Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Use of Wikimedia projects for anti-LGBT+ "humour"
> 
> I don't understand in which possible world anyone thought this was a good
> idea.
> 
> The MfD, that is. It, and the entire discussion in favour, reads as some
> sort of caricature of the worst SJW-type excesses.
> 
> M.
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sun, 3 Mar 2019 at 16:41, Fæ  wrote:
>> 
>> As the last second repost had the same format error, I am trying for a
>> final time. How embarrassing!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I would like to apologise to SMcCandlish and Barbara (WVS), and more
>> generally to the Wikipedia community, for any possible implication
>> given in my previous email to this list, that authors of the
>> problematic Signpost "Pronouns beware" essay, might in any way be
>> thought to be transphobic. This was an important matter to word
>> precisely and accurately. I take responsibility and apologise, it was
>> stupid of me to fail to ensure that there could be no way that my
>> words might appear to be intended as an attack on the person, rather
>> than criticism of the judgement used when writing this essay, and the
>> choice to publish it on Wikipedia.
>> 
>> I refrained from correcting this email previously, as it was thought
>> to be better to avoid stirring up any further drama, however this was
>> being interpreted by one of the authors as deliberately avoiding
>> making any correction.[1] I apologise for that misjudgement, and my
>> failure to understand how a delay would appear. My thanks go to
>> SMcCandlish for raising their complaint that a correction was needed.
>> 
>> The rest of this email runs on the long side, if you have been
>> following the deletion discussion, there is probably nothing new here.
>> :-)
>> 
>> My action in acting transparently as a whistleblower, was to criticise
>> the editorial judgement of creating an essay which made jokes about
>> pronoun usage which would, and has, been read as making a bad joke
>> that mocks genderqueer and transgender people. This problem of how the
>> article could be read, was raised by others before publication.
>> Overwhelmingly the deletion discussion created for the essay has had
>> feedback from many long term and experienced Wikipedians who were
>> alarmed and upset that the article was published without this problem
>> being acted on, and either halting publication, or ensuring a
>> resubmission so there could be no confusion that the article appeared
>> abusive or a failure to 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WikiGap 2019

2019-02-22 Thread Natacha Rault via Wikimedia-l
Thanks for sharing this Mia!  Îm really glad to read that it can be an ongoing 
project and not just an equality token on March, 8. 

I have a question: do you have a budget for transportation for people who want 
to attend and babysitting facilities? 
Could it be possible for organizers to get a volunteering certificate from the 
sweedish embassy as a  kind of aknowledgement of the work done? 

Thank you for your commitment on these issues!

Kind regards,

Natacha / Nattes à chat 

> Le 21 févr. 2019 à 16:19, Mia Jacobsson  a écrit :
> 
> WikiGap 8 March 2019
> 
> 
> WikiGap is an initiative taken to close the gender gap and other gaps
> relevant for diversity of Wikipedia. The initiative is made possible by a
> cooperation between Wikimedia Sverige, the Swedish Ministry for Foreign
> Affairs, Swedish embassies and Wikimedia affiliates, volunteers and local
> organizations around the world. WikiGap was first organized in March 2018
> and now we would like to do it again. We are planning to organize several
> Wikipedia edit-a-thons during 8 March 2019. The purpose of the edit-a-thons
> is to create more articles about women to achieve a more gender-equal
> Internet – and a more gender-equal world and by doing so reduce the gender
> gap a bit.
> 
> The 8 March is just the starting point of the campaign. If the embassy,
> your local partner and you finds a better date to cooperate and implement a
> WikiGap event during 2019 then that also works.
> 
> Main page on Meta: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiGap
> 
> The background to WikiGap 2019
> 
> The initiative started in March 2017 with a sister edit-a-thon in four
> languages between the Swedish embassy in New Delhi and Stockholm
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/India-Sweden_edit-a-thon.
> 
> During 2017 the Swedish embassies in Pretoria and Washington DC also
> successfully hosted Wikipedia edit-a-thons with Wikimedia chapters. In 2018
> The Ministry of Foreign Affairs wanted to increase outreach and the number
> of partnering Wikimedia affiliates and we decided to implement WikiGap 2018
> together.
> 
> Together with the Ministry we have developed a toolkit for how embassies
> should organise Wikipedia edit-a-thons, and they are committed to surfacing
> the achievements of women in the world’s largest encyclopedia, in
> partnership with Wikimedia affiliates and other local organisations.
> 
> Changes from previous year
> 
> This year we’re also going to have an online-competition which is called
> the WikiGap Challenge during the first month of WikiGap.
> 
> The WikiGap Challenge is an attempt to connect the individual events with
> each other. It is also a possibility for the organizing Wikimedia
> organizations and volunteers to highlight important women from their
> context that they believe deserve articles on multiple languages.
> 
> More information about the contest will be shared with local organizers
> shortly
> 
> and on the WikiGap Campaign portal on Meta.
> 
> 
> How you can join?
> 
> The WikiGap invites broad and diverse participation, just like last year,
> and allows for local adaptations to the theme. If you think that you have
> an interest in taking part of WikiGap but have any questions about the
> implementation you can either contact the Swedish embassy in your country,
> they have all the material that you need to make this event a success, or
> you can send me a question – I’m more than happy to help you sort out some
> question marks.I will be out of office February 25 to March 4 so please
> send a copy of your request to i...@wikimedia.se and someone at the office
> will get back to you as soon as possible.
> 
> If you don’t think that you will be the main organizer of WikiGap in your
> country or if you are a part of a larger team, I, as part of coordinating
> the WikiGap, would like you to please help share this information with the
> right individuals.
> 
> Are you interested in taking part of WikiGap 2019?
> 
> Please send me an email to confirm your interest. At the WikiGap portal
>  on Meta you can find a list of
> WikiGap events . Use this
> space to find events and share details of your own WikiGap event, such as
> user name of the organizer(s), your local theme and if you’re merging the
> event with other wiki initiatives.
> 
> Here you will find some more information about WikiGap:
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiGap/Events
> 
> Join WikiGap on Programs & Events Dashboard to show impact
> 
> We also have a WikiGap campaign 2019
> 
> up on Programs & Events dashboard
>  to
> facilitate running and keeping track of all events on various language
> version. Please go in there and register your event as soon as possible.
> 
> Please help us spread the word about WikiGap.
> 
> Best 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] To Wikimedians, with love from our donors

2019-02-14 Thread Natacha Rault via Wikimedia-l
Dear Caitlin, 

Thank you for this inspiring message! 

With Wikilove then...

Nattes à chat
> Le 14 févr. 2019 à 18:17, Caitlin Cogdill  a écrit :
> 
> In January, the WMF fundraising team asked our donors a single question: is
> there anything you want to say to the volunteers who make the Wikimedia
> projects possible?The result was enchanting. More than 5,000 donors took
> the opportunity to express their thanks, gratitude, and love for the
> contributors who give the world the joy of free and open knowledge. Today
> is Valentine’s Day, a holiday that, at least in our modern world, is about
> expressing love for the individuals in our lives who make the world just a
> bit sweeter.We thought this was the perfect opportunity to pass all this
> wikilove over to you. Today, we get to play Cupid, nurturing the lasting
> partnership between our contributors and donors that has helped Wikipedia
> blossom in its 18 years of existence.
> 
> *Read our donors' messages to you, the contributors to Wikimedia projects,
> here: *
> *https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fundraising/Donor_love
>  *
> 
> -- 
> Caitlin Cogdill
> Senior Fundraising Email Manager
> Wikimedia Foundation
> 
> Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in
> the sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality!
> 
> *https://donate.wikimedia.org *
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[Wikimedia-l] Wiki Loves Love on Wikipedia with a gender gap focus!

2019-02-07 Thread Natacha Rault via Wikimedia-l
Hi, 

You probably all know that the Commons contest Wiki Loves Love (WLL) started 
since last friday. 

What you might not know yet is that we are now having a multilingual wikipedian 
contest running at the same time from February 10 to March 31st.

The idea is to generate wikipedian content on the same very theme : festivals, 
ceremonies, testimonies, gestures and other symbols of love, and if possible 
use the photos generated by Wiki Loves Love to illustrate content on Wikipedia, 
with a special focus on reducing the gender gap, as this idea stems from les 
sans pagEs who has been asked by Psychoslave to collaborate with WLL. We 
thought adding encyclopedic content would create a win win for everybody and 
bring visibility to what we are all doing. 

We have set up a multilingual and multi project page on meta with Rupika. 

To participate you have two options: subscribe individually, or via another 
project. Several projects have already joined and we hope we can have others 
too!

Main page on Meta : 
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiki_Loves_Love_2019#Timeline 


Registration page (individuals AND projects most welcome) : 
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiki_Loves_Love_2019/Project_Page 


We would gladly accept help to pimp up the page and add ideas on the working 
list as well….

Kind regards, 

Nattes à chat

With Wiki Love !







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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Invitation from Wiki Loves Love 2019

2019-01-10 Thread Natacha Rault via Wikimedia-l
Hi, I spoke to Psychoslave and we thought we could contribute on the 
francophone wikipedia by setting up a project page dedicated to contribution on 
the subject of love ceremonies with a gender gap approach. 

I am not very gifted in photographs, but maybe we could try to write articles 
using the Wikiloves photographs? 

If more projects are interested, we could even put up a page on meta. Maybe 
Women in red, Wikimujeres and Wikidonne would like to participate with les sans 
pagEs?

Sending you wikilove! 

Nattes à chat
> Le 10 janv. 2019 à 10:23, Rupikaa Sharma  a écrit :
> 
> Love is an important subject for humanity and it is expressed in different
> cultures and regions in different ways across the world through different
> gestures, ceremonies, festivals and to document expression of this rich and
> beautiful emotion, we need your help so we can share and spread the depth
> of cultures that each region has, the best of how people of that region,
> celebrate love.
> 
> Wiki Loves Love (WLL) is an international photography competition of
> Wikimedia Commons with the subject love testimonials happening in the month
> of February from 1th - 28th.
> 
> 
> 
> The primary goal of the competition is to document love testimonials
> through human cultural diversity such as monuments, ceremonies, snapshot of
> tender gesture, and miscellaneous objects used as symbol of love; to
> illustrate articles in the worldwide free encyclopedia Wikipedia, and other
> Wikimedia Foundation (WMF) projects.
> 
> 
> 
> The theme of 2019 WLL is Celebrations, Festivals, Ceremonies and rituals of
> love.
> 
> 
> 
> Sign up your affiliate or individually at
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Love_2019/Participants
> .
> 
> To know more about the contest, check out our Commons Page
> and FAQs
> page .
> 
> There are several prizes to grab. Hope to see you spreading love this
> February with Wiki Loves Love!
> 
> Imagine...The sum of all love!
> 
> Wiki Loves Love team
> 
> Rupika Sharma
> 
> Co-ordinator
> 
> Wiki Loves Love
> 
> *https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Love_2019
> *
> 
> 
> *https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Wikilover90
> *
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMSUMMIT19 - 3 days left to register

2018-12-14 Thread Natacha Rault via Wikimedia-l
Thank you Michelle, I dint see Wikiwomen user group in there…

Kind regards, 

Natacha
> Le 14 déc. 2018 à 15:47, Michelle Poltier  a 
> écrit :
> 
> Dear Wikimedians,
> 
> The deadline to register for the Wikimedia Summit 2019 is in three
> days, on Monday, December 17!
> 
> If you want to be part of the event as a representative of your
> affiliate and haven’t registered yet, do not miss this last chance to
> sign up via the registration form [1]. The link to the registration
> form is at the bottom of the page.
> 
> Registrations from the following affiliates are still missing:
> 
> =Chapters=
> Wikimedia Belgium
> Wikimedia Canada
> Wikimedia Chile
> Wikimedia Danmark
> Wikimedia Eesti
> Wikimedia España
> Wikimedia Suomi
> Wikimédia Magyarország
> Wikimedia India
> Wikimedia Italia
> Wikimedia México
> Wikimedia Norge
> Wikimedia Russia
> Wikimedia Sverige
> Wikimedia Taiwan
> Wikimedia Ukraine
> Wikimedia District of Columbia
> Wikimedia New York City
> Wikimedia Uruguay
> Wikimedia Venezuela
> 
> =Thematic Organizations=
> Amical Wikimedia
> 
> =User Groups=
> Azerbaijani Wikimedians User Group
> Basque Wikimedians User Group
> Wikimedians of Bulgaria User Group
> Wikimedia Community User Group Belarus
> Wikimedia Community User Group in China
> Wikimedia Digitization User Group
> Wikimedia Community User Group Ghana
> Wikimedia Community User Group Greece
> Wikipedia Community Schools Association Greece
> 위키미디어 대한민국(Wikimedians of Korea)
> Wikimedians of the Levant User Group
> Wikimedians of Latvia User Group
> Wikimedia MA User Group (Morocco)
> Maithili Wikimedians User Group
> Wikimedia Community User Group Malta
> Wikimedians of Nepal
> Punjabi Wikimedians
> Wikimedia Community User Group Pakistan
> Wikimedians of Albanian Language User Group
> Tremendous Wiktionary User Group
> Cascadia Wikimedians User Group
> Wikimedians of Colorado User Group
> Florida Librarians of Wikipedia User Group
> Georgia Piedmont Wikimedians User Group
> Wikimedians of Iowa User Group
> Kentucky Wikimedians User Group
> North Carolina Triangle Wikipedians User Group
> New England Wikimedians
> Ohio Wikimedians User Group
> Wikimujeres
> Wikisource Community User Group
> WikiToLearn User Group
> WikiConference North America
> WikiDonne
> Wikimaps User Group
> Hindi Wikimedians User Group
> Wikimedia Tool Developers Group
> Wikimedia and Libraries User Group
> Wikimedians of Cameroon User Group
> Wikimedians of Chicago User Group
> San Diego Wikimedians User Group
> 
> =Allied Organizations=
> Centre for Internet & Society - Access to Knowledge Program
> 
> To enhance the anticipation for the event and to find out who you’re
> going to meet at the Wikimedia Summit, feel free to review the current
> list of participants [2].
> 
> You can reach out to us any time via wmsum...@wikimedia.de should you
> have any questions or comments.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Michelle
> For the Wikimedia Summit Organizing Team
> Wikimedia Deutschland
> wmsum...@wikimedia.de
> 
> [1] 
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Summit_2019/Registration_Information
> [2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Summit_2019/Participants%27_List
> 
> -- 
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Writing weeks started about German-speaking Community

2018-12-09 Thread Natacha Rault via Wikimedia-l
Hi Riomaine Thank you! Do you think you could put the working list on metal and 
have sections in the different languages? It would make it easier. That’s what 
we did with the Wikialpen forum where three languages were involved.

Kind regards, 

Nattes à chat


> Le 10 déc. 2018 à 06:53, Romaine Wiki  a écrit :
> 
> Hi everyone,
> 
> From Monday 10 December to Friday 21 December we (community/Wikimedia
> Belgium) organise the writing weeks about the German-speaking Community of
> Belgium.
> 
> The German-speaking Community is one of the three communities in Belgium,
> located near the border with Germany and comprises nine municipalities:
> Amel, Büllingen, Burg-Reuland, Bütgenbach, Eupen, Kelmis, Lontzen, Raeren
> and Sankt Vith. The area stretches from the 3-country point near Vaals
> (Netherlands) in the north to the 3-country point near Ouren and Luxembourg
> in the south.
> 
> This area is unfortunately only very limited described on Wikipedia. That
> is why we invite you to write on Wikipedia about this area and help to fill
> this gap bit by bit.
> 
> Please add the articles you write or translate to the project page. In this
> way we know what has been done and it can stimulate other writers to write
> and translate.
> 
> Project page:
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Writing_week/German-speaking_Community_of_Belgium
> 
> 
> If you would like to stay informed about future writing weeks, please add
> yourself to the mass message list and receive a message when a new writing
> week starts:
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Global_message_delivery/Targets/WritingWeek
> 
> For those who are in the area, on Saturday 15 December we also organise and
> edit-a-thon in Eupen, the capital of this area.
> 
> Greetings from Belgium!
> 
> Romaine
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Avoiding sensory overload at Wikimedia Events

2018-10-25 Thread Natacha Rault via Wikimedia-l
Hi Michelle,

 during the francophone wikiconvention we had a special calm room for people 
who need to retire a moment from the crowd because of special needs they could 
have. We were asked also not to come nearby with perfumes and other sensory 
distractions. 

A calm room for other people (breastfeeding moms, tired or stressed out 
speakers ect), anybody needing a little rest would be real cool I think. 

Also we were given advice at the beginning of the convention that we should not 
force people to present themselves in a group and accept the idea of touching 
people can be felt as being intrusive for some. 

Kind regards,

Natacha / Nattes à chat

> Le 15 oct. 2018 à 15:38, Michelle Boon  a écrit :
> 
> Dear all,
> 
> Like many other affiliates, Wikimedia Nederland hosts several events per
> year. We do our best to make these events an inclusive and pleasant
> environment for all participants.
> 
> Last summer, there was a mail thread on Wikimedia-l
> 
> on sensory overload  at
> Wikimedia events. We would like to learn how we can adapt our events to
> support people who experience sensory overload during events. With this we
> hope to create a safe and pleasant environment for all.
> 
> In order to learn, we want to hear from you. We therefore made a page
> with
> more information about this initiative. On the talkpage
> there
> is room for sharing ideas and experiences, and discussing  potential
> solutions.
> 
> Kind Regards,
> 
> Michelle Boon
> Event Organiser & Community Support
> Wikimedia Nederland
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Qu'est-ce qui te rend heureuse cette semaine? / What's making you happy this week? (Week of 14 October 2018)

2018-10-14 Thread Natacha Rault via Wikimedia-l
Great story from Yann, thanks for sharing.

Nattes à chat



> Le 14 oct. 2018 à 23:23, Pine W  a écrit :
> 
> Recently I spent some time on Commons, and I came across two things that I
> especially appreciated.
> 
> The first is a story on Yann's user page
> . While I think that
> experience with participating on public Wikimedia projects is an important
> qualification for many roles in the Wikimedia universe, this story reminds
> the reader to place edit count into a wider perspective.
> 
> ---
> 
> 
> *A novice was once curious about the nature of the Edit Count. He
> approached the Zen master and asked, "Zen master, what is the nature of the
> Edit Count?""The Edit Count is as a road," replied the Zen master. "You
> must travel the road to reach your destination, and some may travel longer
> roads than others. But do not judge the person at your door by the length
> of the road he has travelled to reach you."*
> 
> 
> *And the novice was Enlightened.*
> 
> *---*
> 
> The second thing that I especially liked on Commons is this photo
> 
> that was taken in Laos by Basile Morin. As you can guess, I generally like
> trees.
> 
> On a different subject, Markus Kroetzsch wrote
> 
> to the Wikidata list that he is "happy to report that we" (Stanislav
> Malyshev, Markus Krötzsch, Larry González, Julius Gonsior, and Adrian
> Bielefeldt) "have just won the Best Paper Award of the In-Use track of this
> year's International Semantic Web Conference (ISWC), for our description of
> the SPARQL/RDF technology use on Wikidata. I keep telling people here that
> the general awesomeness of Wikidata is the work of many, and in particular
> of this great community of editors."
> 
> In older news, some time ago I was told about this video on Commons
>  by Trey
> Jones that provides an introduction to full-text search. I thought that
> presentation was very interesting.
> 
> What's making you happy this week? You are welcome to write in any
> language.
> 
> Pine
> ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine )
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