Re: [Wikimedia-l] FY1920 Fundraising Report

2020-10-13 Thread Philippe Beaudette
Pats, thank you for this.  It's a wonderful report.  (I commend it to the
full list to look at.  Fascinating).

I flashed back to years ago, when Megan and Zack (Exley) and I stood in the
middle of the large empty 6th floor of the old headquarters and wondered
how the heck we were gonna come up with $16Million. I believe Megan's
catchphrase that year was "There's NO CRYING IN FUNDRAISING!" It's
fantastic to see the way that the fundraising team has grown and
developed.  You and your team are to be congratulated!

Thanks for raising the money to keep the lights on.

Philippe

On Tue, Oct 6, 2020 at 11:38 AM Patricia Pena  wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
>
> We have just completed and published our annual report that summarises
> fundraising activities for the financial year covering July 1, 2019 - June
> 30, 2020. Wikipedia is supported by people — people around the world who
> read knowledge on the site, editors who contribute their time to add and
> improve articles with up-to-date information, and donors who chip in to
> keep Wikipedia thriving. We are proud to present our 2019-2020 Fundraising
> Report  and
> share insights into how the Wikimedia Foundation earns revenue to sustain
> the Wikimedia projects. Thank you to everyone who supports our mission to
> ensure that everyone, everywhere, can share in and access free knowledge.
>
>
> Long term financial sustainability is at the core of our department’s
> activities, an importance that holds further weight given the ongoing
> challenges faced globally. The report highlights the importance of growing
> support to the endowment and notes the ongoing focus on our monthly giving
> donor program.
>
>
> A huge thanks to all those across the Wikimedia Foundation, affiliates, and
> volunteers, who have contributed to the success of this year's fundraiser.
> Without that support, we wouldn’t be able to deliver the resources needed
> for the movement to fulfill and achieve its mission. I'd also like to thank
> everyone who contributed and collaborated on this report: Online
> Fundraising, Major Gifts & Endowment, Fundraising Operations, Donor
> Services, Fundraising Tech, Legal, Communications, Finance, Product
> Analytics and more! Special thanks to Runjini Murthy for project managing
> this entire effort.
>
>
> We welcome your feedback and questions on the talk page.
>  [1]
>
>
> Thank you,
>
> Pats
>
>
> [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Fundraising/2019-20_Report
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Writing Wikimedia's history [Re: Institutional memory @WMF]

2020-08-28 Thread Philippe Beaudette
Adam writes:

“The Wikimedia-pedia [1] is a treasure, thank you Philippe for linking!  
I'd love to see this content migrated to a public wiki, where maybe it 
can come to life again.”

Not-terribly-secretly, Eugene and I had always hoped that this section of the 
deliverables would continue to be updated and would then be useful for the next 
strategy design process. Obviously, once the wiki was locked, that ceased to be 
an option without moving/transcluding/transmogrifying/something-scary-sounding 
the content somewhere else. I’ve always thought that was a great loss.

Philippe



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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Institutional memory @ WMF

2020-08-25 Thread Philippe Beaudette
Credit for that goes to the inestimable Eugene Eric Kim and the hundreds of 
Wikimedians who contributed to it. It still exists I believe, at 
strategy.wikimedia.org. 

Regards,
pb 

Philippe Beaudette
philippe.beaude...@icloud.com


> On Aug 25, 2020, at 7:32 PM, Pete Forsyth  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Philippe. Funny, the minute I hit "send" I thought of you -- I don't
> know whether or not it was your idea originally, but the "Wikimedia-Pedia"
> that was created during the 2010 Strategic Planning process was probably
> the closest thing I've seen to an organized effort to do this.
> 
> -Pete
> [[User:Peteforsyth]]
> 
>> On Tue, Aug 25, 2020 at 5:25 PM Philippe Beaudette 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Pete, one thing that I loved about my time at reddit was the existence of
>> a subreddit called “r/museumofreddit”. It was mandatory reading for every
>> new hire on my team and every other team I could convince and it was
>> critical to onboarding me.
>> 
>> It lived to serve just the documentary process that you mention.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> pb
>> 
>> Philippe Beaudette
>> 
>>>> On Aug 25, 2020, at 6:35 PM, Pete Forsyth  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I've thought about institutional memory quite a lot since I stopped
>> working
>>> at WMF in 2011. A few points I think are worth considering:
>>> 
>>>  1. Often, institutional memory is measured in terms of
>>>  staff/executive/board turnover; while there has indeed been a very high
>>>  rate of turnover at times, I would argue that another factor (see #2)
>> is
>>>  actually more important.
>>>  2. An organization can do a great deal, with a well-planned top-down
>>>  approach, to ensure institutional memory is *generated* and *retained*
>> even
>>>  if there's a lot of turnover.
>>>  3. The main thing that can be done is to ensure that significant events
>>>  are *debriefed and summarized *("documented") in a way that is clearly
>>>  and concisely articulated, supported by evidence and logic, and fair to
>>>  various good faith perspectives.
>>>  4. We might call that an "encyclopedic" approach. (The skills required
>>>  are almost exactly the skills that tend to be cultivated in our
>> Wikipedia
>>>  volunteer community, as codified in its policies and norms, and learned
>>>  through practice by its core volunteers.)
>>>  5. The Wikimedia Foundation has not historically done very much in
>> terms
>>>  of thorough encyclopedic documentation of important events in its
>> history.
>>>  There have been exceptions, and I believe that where it has been done
>> and
>>>  done well, much good has come of it. The best example of this, in my
>>>  opinion, is the Assessment of Belfer Center Wikipedian in Residence
>>>  program
>>>  <
>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Assessment_of_Belfer_Center_Wikipedian_in_Residence_program
>>> .
>>>  This was initiated by then-Executive Director Sue Gardner and her
>> deputy
>>>  Erik Möller, who participated actively in it. Specific programmatic
>>>  improvements in the Grants department were a direct outcome.
>>>  6. But many events have never been documented with
>>>  guidance/resourcing/participation by the WMF. It's worthwhile to
>> debrief
>>>  and summarize both positive and negative experiences.
>>>  7. If you don't document positive outcomes, WMF staff may have
>>>  difficulty replicating that success, because the experience is not
>> widely
>>>  understood within the WMF (or in the community, etc.) The example
>> foremost
>>>  in my mind is the 2012 rewrite of the Terms of Use, overseen by
>>>  then-General Counsel Geoff Brigham. He made changes to his process to
>>>  leverage the knowledge and experience within the volunteer community,
>> and
>>>  ended up with a document substantially superior to his initial draft,
>> and
>>>  that also had the buy-in of many volunteers whose fingerprints were on
>> the
>>>  final document. (I hope to write this up myself some day; if I ever get
>>>  around to it, it'll be linked here
>>>  <
>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Peteforsyth/governance#Organizational_governance
>>> 
>>>  .
>>>  8. If you don't summarize/debrief negative outcomes, you don't learn in
>>>  the moment what went wrong (so as to avoid repeating the mistakes),
>> and you
>>>  leave anybody impacted by the problems (e.g. vol

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Institutional memory @ WMF

2020-08-25 Thread Philippe Beaudette
Pete, one thing that I loved about my time at reddit was the existence of a 
subreddit called “r/museumofreddit”. It was mandatory reading for every new 
hire on my team and every other team I could convince and it was critical to 
onboarding me. 

It lived to serve just the documentary process that you mention.

Regards,
pb 

Philippe Beaudette

> On Aug 25, 2020, at 6:35 PM, Pete Forsyth  wrote:
> 
> I've thought about institutional memory quite a lot since I stopped working
> at WMF in 2011. A few points I think are worth considering:
> 
>   1. Often, institutional memory is measured in terms of
>   staff/executive/board turnover; while there has indeed been a very high
>   rate of turnover at times, I would argue that another factor (see #2) is
>   actually more important.
>   2. An organization can do a great deal, with a well-planned top-down
>   approach, to ensure institutional memory is *generated* and *retained* even
>   if there's a lot of turnover.
>   3. The main thing that can be done is to ensure that significant events
>   are *debriefed and summarized *("documented") in a way that is clearly
>   and concisely articulated, supported by evidence and logic, and fair to
>   various good faith perspectives.
>   4. We might call that an "encyclopedic" approach. (The skills required
>   are almost exactly the skills that tend to be cultivated in our Wikipedia
>   volunteer community, as codified in its policies and norms, and learned
>   through practice by its core volunteers.)
>   5. The Wikimedia Foundation has not historically done very much in terms
>   of thorough encyclopedic documentation of important events in its history.
>   There have been exceptions, and I believe that where it has been done and
>   done well, much good has come of it. The best example of this, in my
>   opinion, is the Assessment of Belfer Center Wikipedian in Residence
>   program
>   
> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Assessment_of_Belfer_Center_Wikipedian_in_Residence_program>.
>   This was initiated by then-Executive Director Sue Gardner and her deputy
>   Erik Möller, who participated actively in it. Specific programmatic
>   improvements in the Grants department were a direct outcome.
>   6. But many events have never been documented with
>   guidance/resourcing/participation by the WMF. It's worthwhile to debrief
>   and summarize both positive and negative experiences.
>   7. If you don't document positive outcomes, WMF staff may have
>   difficulty replicating that success, because the experience is not widely
>   understood within the WMF (or in the community, etc.) The example foremost
>   in my mind is the 2012 rewrite of the Terms of Use, overseen by
>   then-General Counsel Geoff Brigham. He made changes to his process to
>   leverage the knowledge and experience within the volunteer community, and
>   ended up with a document substantially superior to his initial draft, and
>   that also had the buy-in of many volunteers whose fingerprints were on the
>   final document. (I hope to write this up myself some day; if I ever get
>   around to it, it'll be linked here
>   
> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Peteforsyth/governance#Organizational_governance>
>   .
>   8. If you don't summarize/debrief negative outcomes, you don't learn in
>   the moment what went wrong (so as to avoid repeating the mistakes), and you
>   leave anybody impacted by the problems (e.g. volunteers) with the
>   impression that you don't care. The example I think of is Superprotect
>   <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Superprotect>. As the author of a
>   diplomatic letter, signed by more than 1000 people, making straightforward
>   requests of the WMF, I am not too bothered that they didn't do what we
>   requested; but I am very bothered that they never acknowledged the
>   existence of the letter, nor stated which parts of it they agreed/disagreed
>   with, or what motivated the subsequent decisions they did make. (These are
>   things they could still do, even several years later, that would still make
>   a difference.)
>   9. As any seasoned Wikipedia writer/editor knows, there is an important
>   difference between writing that aims first and foremost to be useful and
>   informative ("encyclopedic"), vs. writing that aims first and foremost to
>   present an organization in a good light, or to advance an agenda ("public
>   relations" or "communications" for an organization). People who excel at
>   one of those types of writing are not always great at doing the other kind;
>   the two types of writing require a different mindset.
>   10. The kind of writing required to summarize and debrief
>   important events, to create and preserve instituti

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimania 2020 will be on August 5-9. Bangkok, Thailand.

2019-10-08 Thread Philippe Beaudette
Well, if it wasn't BEFORE it surely must be NOW

On Tue, Oct 8, 2019 at 11:31 AM Samuel Klein  wrote:

> Surely synchronized vandalfighting is in the pipeline for a future Olympic
> lineup!
>
> 
>
> On Tue., Oct. 8, 2019, 1:54 p.m. Kiril Simeonovski, <
> kiril.simeonov...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Dear Roman,
> >
> > Thank you for announcing the dates of Wikimania 2020 and suggesting a
> trip
> > to other East Asian countries, including Japan for the Olympics, but was
> it
> > inevitable to schedule the event during the Olympics?
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Kiril
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 8, 2019 at 18:54 Roman Bustria Jr. 
> wrote:
> >
> > > Dear Wikimedians,
> > >
> > > I am delighted to announce that Wikimania 2020 will happen from 5-9
> > August,
> > > 2020 in Bangkok, Thailand.
> > >
> > > We will announce other details in the upcoming weeks.
> > >
> > > For now, you may start planning your Asian tour iterinary. You may
> > consider
> > > doing a side trip in other ESEAP countries like Myanmar, Cambodia,
> Japan
> > > (Olympic Games), Philippines, Malaysia, Indonesia, Timor Leste, Taiwan,
> > > Australia, New Zealand, South Korea, China, Vietnam, and many others.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Kind regards,
> > >
> > > Butch Bustria
> > > Wikimedia ESEAP
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Welcoming Wikimedia Foundation’s new CTO, Grant Ingersoll

2019-09-18 Thread Philippe Beaudette
On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 12:32 PM Andy Mabbett 
wrote:

> On Wed, 18 Sep 2019 at 17:55, Katherine Maher 
> wrote:
>
> > I’m excited to officially welcome Grant Ingersoll as our Chief Technology
> > Officer! Grant
>
> It is UTTERLY OUTRAGEOUS of Katherine to post this...
>
> > In Grant’s own words
>
> > We're adjusting to the empty nest life with our dog Allie (a
> > black lab mix).
>
> ...without linking to at least one cute pic of Allie ;-)
>




 Frankly I am shocked ... shocked! that a woman of Katherine’s obvious
talents must be reminded of this basic pillar of the movement: If you
invoke a cute puppy, you better be prepared to prove it.

Geez, K, have we taught you nothing in the, what, half a decade, that
you’ve been part of this movement?

-philippe

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wiki loves SDGs

2019-09-18 Thread Philippe Beaudette
Respectfully, my friend, I disagree. I often make silly or ill considered
comments.  I hope those will not be the only data points used to describe
me.

Philippe



On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 2:59 AM Gerard Meijssen 
wrote:

> Hoi,
> Sorry but when you call my comments flippant, you call me flippant.
> Thanks,
>   GerardM
>
> On Wed, 18 Sep 2019 at 11:06, Andy Mabbett 
> wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 18 Sep 2019 at 09:24, Gerard Meijssen  >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Calling someone "flippant" is a direct attack -
> >
> > Nobody called you flippant. Fæ said "your comments are flippant"
> >
> > Please stop this, now.
> >
> > --
> > Andy Mabbett
> > @pigsonthewing
> > http://pigsonthewing.org.uk
> >
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fram en.wp office yearlock block

2019-06-15 Thread Philippe Beaudette


Todd, I have to tell you, this comment made me absolutely LOL.  All I could
imagine was Sue Gardner (from my WMF days) and Geoff Brigham interrogating
me about my desire to send out a goon squad after, i dunno, Risker and
Newyorkbrad or something.  I could imagine Geoff telling me that I needed
more evidence (as he ALWAYS said) and Sue telling me that this required a
memo first, and I better have budgeted the money in the annual plan.

The image was very vivid for me.

As a Trust and Safety professional, with almost two decades of experience
under my belt, all I can say is this:  I freakin' wish.  Really.




Philippe

On Sat, Jun 15, 2019 at 1:16 PM Todd Allen  wrote:
I think everyone here is clear that no one is literally going to be drug off

> in a white van by a balaclava-wearing goon squad from the WMF and sent to a
> gulag.
>
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fram en.wp office yearlock block

2019-06-12 Thread Philippe Beaudette
On Wed, Jun 12, 2019 at 4:20 PM Nathan  wrote:

>   Philippe moved on, so the easy solution - put him in charge of
> everything - isn't going to work.



I laughed. Thank you for this. But remember, I was in front of Arbcomm for
a not too dissimilar case, being accused of overreaching and an unhelpful
response and tone (false, true and true, in that order). I learned from my
mistakes. More importantly, I hope (and believe) that the WMF learned from
my mistakes.

The people on the T team are neither dumb nor disconnected. Quite the
opposite. I hired and worked with a couple  of them and know them to be
talented, thoughtful and deliberate. I know Katherine to be the same.

On the basis of that “insider” knowledge - and that is truly all the
insider knowledge that I have here - I trust that there is more here that I
do not and can not know.

I trust the people and the process. I wish I could find a way to share that
trust in such a way that it would be adopted by more. Maybe you have to
live it to develop it,  but these are talented staff making hard decisions.
No doubt they will err some - but it’s not because they didn’t try
everything they know to get it right.

I wish we could put away the pitchforks - and also (on the wmf side) make
ourselves available and open to listening and sharing whatever we can - if
there is anything and try like hell to deescalate this thing.


Or give me time to go buy more popcorn. One or the other.

Philippe



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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fram en.wp office yearlock block

2019-06-12 Thread Philippe Beaudette
Martian,

While it’s not something I could conjure up today, my time at WMF exposed
me to enough things that I could not have imagined prior to seeing them for
myself that I am unwilling to discount that such a situation could exist.

Philippe

On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 11:25 PM Martijn Hoekstra 
wrote:

> Phillipe,
>
> Can you imagine a hypothetical situation where it would have been
> appropriate for this WMF office action to exist though - that is to say,
> not serious enough to ban a user from any other wiki than en. and serious
> enough to take direct action outside of the community?
>
> I sure can't, yet here it happened. That means I also can't really
> disqualify any other points that I can't imagine as surely false. Can you,
> from your personal experience reconcile what happened here good enough, so
> that when you say you can't imagine, that dismisses the issue? Or do you
> maybe also have to suspend your judgement on what probably did or didn't
> happen as you are also in the realm of "can't imagine" already?
>
> On Wed, Jun 12, 2019, 04:35 Philippe Beaudette 
> wrote:
>
> > Nathan writes:
> >
> > *“Why are WMF staffers so*
> >
> > *deeply, fundamentally disconnected from the communities where they feel
> > the*
> > *right to ban people for saying "fuck arbcom"?”*
> >
> >
> > I’ve seen no evidence that this is the case here and would be utterly
> > shocked if a t staff member had indeed banned for saying that.
> >
> > If the situation is anything like what it was when I was at WMF, a ban
> such
> > as this requires multiple levels of review by a couple of different teams
> > (in my time, we would not have considered a ban such as this without sign
> > off from the community and legal teams, for instance). I don’t know if
> the
> > process is the same now but I would be surprised to hear that any single
> > staff member would feel comfortable banning on his or her authority
> alone.
> > Multiple levels of review exist in order to ensure that ban reasons are
> > valid and appropriate.
> >
> > Philippe
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 6:55 PM Nathan  wrote:
> >
> > > Wow, what a cluster. How does the WMF get themselves into these
> things? I
> > > have ten edits to en.wp since 2018 and even I could have 100% predicted
> > the
> > > entire spectrum, and scale, of the reaction here. Why are WMF staffers
> so
> > > deeply, fundamentally disconnected from the communities where they feel
> > the
> > > right to ban people for saying "fuck arbcom"?
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 3:49 PM Todd Allen 
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Amir, yes, ArbCom members must sign the WMF confidentiality agreement
> > for
> > > > nonpublic information (
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Confidentiality_agreement_for_nonpublic_information
> > > > )
> > > > , as must all functionaries (checkuser, oversight, etc.). I was on
> the
> > > > English Wikipedia ArbCom for two years, and it was routine for us to
> > deal
> > > > with sensitive, private information.
> > > >
> > > > Todd
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 9:46 AM Amir Sarabadani  >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > People who oppose the ban: Are you aware of all aspects and things
> > Fram
> > > > has
> > > > > done? Do you have the full picture? It's really saddening to see
> how
> > > fast
> > > > > people jump to conclusion in page mentioned in the email. I
> > personally,
> > > > > don't know what happened so I neither can support or oppose the
> ban.
> > As
> > > > > simple as that.
> > > > >
> > > > > So what should be done IMO. If enwiki wants to know more, a
> community
> > > > body
> > > > > can ask for more information, if body satisfy two things:
> > > > >  - They had signed NDA not to disclose the case
> > > > >  - They are trusted by the community
> > > > >
> > > > > I think the only body can sorta work with this is stewards but not
> > sure
> > > > > (Does ArbCom NDA'ed?)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 3:58 PM Paulo Santos Perneta <
> > > > > paulospern...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Lack of transparency fro

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF commitment for a Wikimedia projects archive

2019-05-14 Thread Philippe Beaudette
This. What Risker said. Fae raises a fair point. And while the Foundation
 certainly does not make policy based off of small discussions on mailing
list, it should (and used to) listen to those lists, and use them to aid in
decisions about what policy to make.

I like you a lot Joseph, but I’m afraid your comment here was regrettable.
  Nobody here was suggesting that the foundation make that policy based off
of the small group discussion, whether in a public mailing list or
otherwise. However, a long time valued member of the community was raising
a reasonable question. It deserves a better answer than that.

Respectfully, and with great fondness,
Philippe

On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 4:49 PM Risker  wrote:

> Well, I think perhaps Fae's question may be considered more generally.  Fae
> is knowledgeable about the structure of the Wikimedia movement as well as
> the WMF, and I think it might be best to work from the assumption that
> their core question is probably more along the lines of whether (and how)
> the current long-term strategy development process will, in fact, make
> recommendations that are in line with ensuring that there will be (at
> minimum) a publicly accessible archive of the Wikimedia projects.
>
> The movement strategy process is very broad, and  contains a lot of diverse
> ideas about how the movement/WMF/chapters/other entities/projects can be
> improved, maintained, developed and supported.  I'm pretty deep in the
> strategy stuff, and as far as I know, at this point there's no clear path
> to maintaining (or dissolving) any of the existing structures; more to the
> point, there's no guarantee that the final summary recommendations of the
> combined strategy groups will continue to support the current WMF mission
> statement - that is, the part that says " [t]he [Wikimedia] Foundation will
> make and keep useful information from its projects available on the
> internet free of charge, in perpetuity."
>
> I don't think that's really a bad question to ask - in fact, it may be one
> of the more important ones.  I hope I am not presuming too much, but I
> think Fae is saying that this is something that is really important and
> valuable, and that continuity/perpetuation of that particular aspect of the
> mission statement should be a recommendation that gets included in the
> final reports - regardless of which entity assumes responsibility for it or
> who pays for it.
>
> Risker/Anne
>
> On Tue, 14 May 2019 at 18:03, Nathan  wrote:
>
> > The Internet Archive, incidentally, already seems to maintain copies of
> > Wikimedia projects. I don't know to what degree of fidelity.
> Additionally,
> > the WMF's core deliverable is already to provide and sustain access to
> its
> > projects. It has an endowment for that purpose already. Other websites
> and
> > media that might have ephemeral access due to their nature as short-term
> > tools need the IA to be preserved, but the WMF's projects seem to occupy
> a
> > different space. It's sort of like asking if the Library of Congress
> needs
> > to invest in some external project to preserve and organize its
> > collections. No, that is its actual raison d'etre.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Supporting Wikinews [was: Reviewing our brand system for our 2030 goals]

2019-04-27 Thread Philippe Beaudette
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Supporting Wikinews [was: Reviewing our brand system for our 2030 goals]

2019-04-26 Thread Philippe Beaudette
(Hit send too early).To my mind the larger problem is that the content
becomes static over time, Rather than growing and evolving as it does with
many of our more successful Projects.

On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 9:25 AM Philippe Beaudette 
wrote:

> Respectfully Disagree. They can formulate questions, coordinate and fact
> check answers... and that’s off the top of my head.
>
> That said I think wikinews is fundamentally not one is our success
> stories, but I don’t agree with what my friend Ziko said there. There are
> many roles for community there.
>
> On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 9:15 AM Ziko van Dijk  wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> One of the central problems of Wikinews is that the content is not
>> suitable for collaboration.
>>
>> Content suitable for collaboration is related to a reality to which
>> the collaborators equally have access. Think if an encyclopedia based
>> on scholarly literature that (potentially) everybody can find in a
>> library.
>>
>> When a journalist has spoken to her 'sources' (relevant people), she
>> is the one who had a special access to theses sources. The editors in
>> the wiki did not have this access. They can correct typos but do
>> little more.
>>
>> Kind regards
>> Ziko
>>
>>
>>
>> Am Fr., 26. Apr. 2019 um 00:43 Uhr schrieb Philippe Beaudette
>> :
>> >
>> > The very smart Mr. Lih sayeth:
>> >
>> > I have been a fan of the times Wikinews did original interviews with
>> > notable folks [1] so this is perhaps a sustainable niche. But as a
>> direct
>> > news wire competitor to AP, Reuters or AFP, no.
>> >
>> > [1]
>> >
>> https://en.m.wikinews.org/wiki/Shimon_Peres_discusses_the_future_of_Israel
>> >
>> > Me too.  In fact, I think this is something that Wikinews has always
>> done
>> > very well.  It also strikes me as an excellent, and quite functional,
>> use
>> > for a Wiki.  A wikivoices or wiki-interviews type project would be a
>> fine
>> > addition to the ecosystem, imho.  And it is very reasonable to think
>> that
>> > given its success in this area, Wikinews could very easily pivot to fill
>> > that spot.
>> >
>> > But a news competitor to traditional news outlets?  Nope, that it isn't.
>> >
>> > Philippe
>> >
>> > On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 4:05 PM Andrew Lih 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > > On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 4:23 PM Jennifer Pryor-Summers <
>> > > jennifer.pryorsumm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > Andrew
>> > > >
>> > > > It seems to me that you're saying that, on the one hand, the
>> policies
>> > > that
>> > > > make Wikipedia work well as an encyclopaedia (NOR, RS, V, NORUSH)
>> are a
>> > > > poor fit for a news-gathering operation and on the other hand,
>> Wikipedia
>> > > is
>> > > > a success as a news-gathering operation.  These seem inconsistent
>> to me.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > As Wikimedians we are secondary source news summarizers rather than
>> primary
>> > > source news gatherers. That’s where the difference lies primarily.
>> > >
>> > > I have been a fan of the times Wikinews did original interviews with
>> > > notable folks [1] so this is perhaps a sustainable niche. But as a
>> direct
>> > > news wire competitor to AP, Reuters or AFP, no.
>> > >
>> > > [1]
>> > >
>> https://en.m.wikinews.org/wiki/Shimon_Peres_discusses_the_future_of_Israel
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > > However, I conclude from what you're saying that the best way
>> forward is
>> > > to
>> > > > fold the Wikinews operation into Wikipedia.  Is that right?
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Fold Wikinews altogether so it doesn’t confuse the public. Wikipedia
>> > > editors are already doing a stellar job.
>> > >
>> > > Andrew
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > > On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 8:15 PM Andrew Lih 
>> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 2:27 PM Jennifer Pryor-Summers <
>> > > > > jennifer.pryorsumm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Wikinews may not be doing too well, but (English-language)
>> Wikipedia
>> > > > > seems
>&g

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Supporting Wikinews [was: Reviewing our brand system for our 2030 goals]

2019-04-26 Thread Philippe Beaudette
Respectfully Disagree. They can formulate questions, coordinate and fact
check answers... and that’s off the top of my head.

That said I think wikinews is fundamentally not one is our success stories,
but I don’t agree with what my friend Ziko said there. There are many roles
for community there.

On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 9:15 AM Ziko van Dijk  wrote:

> Hello,
>
> One of the central problems of Wikinews is that the content is not
> suitable for collaboration.
>
> Content suitable for collaboration is related to a reality to which
> the collaborators equally have access. Think if an encyclopedia based
> on scholarly literature that (potentially) everybody can find in a
> library.
>
> When a journalist has spoken to her 'sources' (relevant people), she
> is the one who had a special access to theses sources. The editors in
> the wiki did not have this access. They can correct typos but do
> little more.
>
> Kind regards
> Ziko
>
>
>
> Am Fr., 26. Apr. 2019 um 00:43 Uhr schrieb Philippe Beaudette
> :
> >
> > The very smart Mr. Lih sayeth:
> >
> > I have been a fan of the times Wikinews did original interviews with
> > notable folks [1] so this is perhaps a sustainable niche. But as a direct
> > news wire competitor to AP, Reuters or AFP, no.
> >
> > [1]
> >
> https://en.m.wikinews.org/wiki/Shimon_Peres_discusses_the_future_of_Israel
> >
> > Me too.  In fact, I think this is something that Wikinews has always done
> > very well.  It also strikes me as an excellent, and quite functional, use
> > for a Wiki.  A wikivoices or wiki-interviews type project would be a fine
> > addition to the ecosystem, imho.  And it is very reasonable to think that
> > given its success in this area, Wikinews could very easily pivot to fill
> > that spot.
> >
> > But a news competitor to traditional news outlets?  Nope, that it isn't.
> >
> > Philippe
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 4:05 PM Andrew Lih  wrote:
> >
> > > On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 4:23 PM Jennifer Pryor-Summers <
> > > jennifer.pryorsumm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Andrew
> > > >
> > > > It seems to me that you're saying that, on the one hand, the policies
> > > that
> > > > make Wikipedia work well as an encyclopaedia (NOR, RS, V, NORUSH)
> are a
> > > > poor fit for a news-gathering operation and on the other hand,
> Wikipedia
> > > is
> > > > a success as a news-gathering operation.  These seem inconsistent to
> me.
> > >
> > >
> > > As Wikimedians we are secondary source news summarizers rather than
> primary
> > > source news gatherers. That’s where the difference lies primarily.
> > >
> > > I have been a fan of the times Wikinews did original interviews with
> > > notable folks [1] so this is perhaps a sustainable niche. But as a
> direct
> > > news wire competitor to AP, Reuters or AFP, no.
> > >
> > > [1]
> > >
> https://en.m.wikinews.org/wiki/Shimon_Peres_discusses_the_future_of_Israel
> > >
> > >
> > > > However, I conclude from what you're saying that the best way
> forward is
> > > to
> > > > fold the Wikinews operation into Wikipedia.  Is that right?
> > >
> > >
> > > Fold Wikinews altogether so it doesn’t confuse the public. Wikipedia
> > > editors are already doing a stellar job.
> > >
> > > Andrew
> > >
> > >
> > > > On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 8:15 PM Andrew Lih 
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 2:27 PM Jennifer Pryor-Summers <
> > > > > jennifer.pryorsumm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Wikinews may not be doing too well, but (English-language)
> Wikipedia
> > > > > seems
> > > > > > to have taken up a news-gathering role not entirely consistent
> with
> > > its
> > > > > > encyclopediac mission: perhaps that's the reason.  Maybe the WMF
> > > should
> > > > > > sort out the demarcation issues.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Jennifer,
> > > > >
> > > > > This has been a topic of discussion for more than a decade and the
> vast
> > > > > majority of the community has converged on the conclusion that
> Wikinews
> > > > > hasn't and won't ever work at any scale given its fundamental
> > > properties.
> > > >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Supporting Wikinews [was: Reviewing our brand system for our 2030 goals]

2019-04-25 Thread Philippe Beaudette
The very smart Mr. Lih sayeth:

I have been a fan of the times Wikinews did original interviews with
notable folks [1] so this is perhaps a sustainable niche. But as a direct
news wire competitor to AP, Reuters or AFP, no.

[1]
https://en.m.wikinews.org/wiki/Shimon_Peres_discusses_the_future_of_Israel

Me too.  In fact, I think this is something that Wikinews has always done
very well.  It also strikes me as an excellent, and quite functional, use
for a Wiki.  A wikivoices or wiki-interviews type project would be a fine
addition to the ecosystem, imho.  And it is very reasonable to think that
given its success in this area, Wikinews could very easily pivot to fill
that spot.

But a news competitor to traditional news outlets?  Nope, that it isn't.

Philippe

On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 4:05 PM Andrew Lih  wrote:

> On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 4:23 PM Jennifer Pryor-Summers <
> jennifer.pryorsumm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Andrew
> >
> > It seems to me that you're saying that, on the one hand, the policies
> that
> > make Wikipedia work well as an encyclopaedia (NOR, RS, V, NORUSH) are a
> > poor fit for a news-gathering operation and on the other hand, Wikipedia
> is
> > a success as a news-gathering operation.  These seem inconsistent to me.
>
>
> As Wikimedians we are secondary source news summarizers rather than primary
> source news gatherers. That’s where the difference lies primarily.
>
> I have been a fan of the times Wikinews did original interviews with
> notable folks [1] so this is perhaps a sustainable niche. But as a direct
> news wire competitor to AP, Reuters or AFP, no.
>
> [1]
> https://en.m.wikinews.org/wiki/Shimon_Peres_discusses_the_future_of_Israel
>
>
> > However, I conclude from what you're saying that the best way forward is
> to
> > fold the Wikinews operation into Wikipedia.  Is that right?
>
>
> Fold Wikinews altogether so it doesn’t confuse the public. Wikipedia
> editors are already doing a stellar job.
>
> Andrew
>
>
> > On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 8:15 PM Andrew Lih  wrote:
> >
> > > On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 2:27 PM Jennifer Pryor-Summers <
> > > jennifer.pryorsumm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Wikinews may not be doing too well, but (English-language) Wikipedia
> > > seems
> > > > to have taken up a news-gathering role not entirely consistent with
> its
> > > > encyclopediac mission: perhaps that's the reason.  Maybe the WMF
> should
> > > > sort out the demarcation issues.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Jennifer,
> > >
> > > This has been a topic of discussion for more than a decade and the vast
> > > majority of the community has converged on the conclusion that Wikinews
> > > hasn't and won't ever work at any scale given its fundamental
> properties.
> > >
> > > News is often described as "the best obtainable version of the truth
> > given
> > > the constraints of a deadline." News depends on memorializing direct
> > > observation at a point in time. Therefore, the following policies that
> > make
> > > Wikipedia work are a bad fit for original, deadline reporting:
> > >
> > > Wikipedia:NOR - no original research
> > > Wikipedia:RS - requirement for reliable sources
> > > Wikipedia:V - verifiability
> > > Wikipedia:NORUSH - there is no deadline/eventualism
> > >
> > > Most anyone who tries Wikinews first hand will experience this mismatch
> > and
> > > realize it is a poor fit.
> > >
> > > However, rather than lament why Wikinews doesn't work, we should
> > celebrate
> > > the fact that we have found a better mode: entries that evolve minute
> to
> > > minute (oftentimes second to second) to best reflect the world as we
> know
> > > it. Embrace that new, live, constantly updated snapshot of reality –
> the
> > > Wikipedia article.
> > >
> > > If you want to see some of the earlier debates about the origins of
> > > Wikinews, October 2004 is a good place to look:
> > > [1]
> > >
> >
> https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2004-October/thread.html
> > > [2]
> > >
> >
> https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2004-October/061017.html
> > >
> > > -Andrew
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Reviewing our brand system for our 2030 goals

2019-04-14 Thread Philippe Beaudette
As usual, Phoebe states very eloquently what I've been struggling to put
into words myself.  And like she, I would have been excited about this
brand change several years ago.  But we weren't ready / missed / didn't see
the need for that opportunity then.  I think that moment has passed.  I'm
not sure that the cost outlay and the time that it will take to clear up
the confusion that a rebrand will cause is demonstrably worth the value
received from it, for the reasons that Phoebe lays out below.

Best,
Philippe
(former staff, still a volunteer, though of greatly reduced volume)



On Sat, Apr 13, 2019 at 9:42 AM phoebe ayers  wrote:

>
> Dear all,
> I haven't weighed in before. But it seems to me there's a simple question
> underlying all of this: do we actually want, or need, to increase public
> awareness of the Wikimedia Foundation and Wikimedia chapters/affiliates (as
> opposed to the projects themselves)?
>
> Having Wikimedia be a more recognizable entity or brand does not seem to me
> like it would help us in our core goals, of recruiting editors and content
> to the *projects*. We do not typically use the Wikimedia name to do
> outreach, or to talk about the projects; the handful of us that are
> insiders and give presentations about the WMF is small, relative to the
> number of educators and librarians and editors talking about Wikipedia. (I
> give many trainings on editing Wikipedia every year; talking about
> Wikimedia is irrelevant for this purpose). Perhaps a rebrand would make
> fundraising easier -- but we already use the project brand for that, as
> most fundraising is directly off the projects, and the fundraising that
> isn't (grants and large donations) has a lot of communication around it. So
> I'm not sure how a rebrand would help here either.
>
> The premise of this whole exercise is that people knowing about Wikimedia
> as an entity will somehow help us. But we are not trying to recruit
> contributors to the Foundation, or to the chapters; we are trying to
> recruit them to the projects, and if the infrastructure of our network is
> invisible, I am fine with that. I think to increase the centrality of the
> *organization* is a distraction that misses the point of both our mission
> and the role of the organization, which is to provide infrastructure. We're
> not selling shoes here; more brand awareness of the Foundation does not
> translate into a direct furthering of our mission, and more focus on the
> organization is at best a distraction for overworked volunteers.
>
> Like Andrew, I might have been excited about naming it the Wikipedia
> Foundation ten or fifteen years ago. But now, I think there is a wide world
> of free knowledge that we want to imagine -- including a future of our
> projects remixed into something new, beyond Wikipedia. So for that reason
> too, I am skeptical.
>
> regards,
> Phoebe
> (former WMF trustee)
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Farewell, Erik!

2019-02-06 Thread Philippe Beaudette
 the massive trove of data and metrics Erik has made
> available had a direct causal role in the birth and growth of the academic
> field of Wikimedia research, and more broadly, scholarship of online
> collaboration.
>
> Like I said this morning, Erik -- you have been not only an invaluable
> colleague and a steward for the movement, but also a very decent human
> being, and I am grateful we shared some of this journey together.
>
> Please join me in celebrating Erik on his well-deserved retirement, read
> his statement <http://infodisiac.com/back_to_volunteer_mode.htm> to learn
> what he's planning to do next, or check this lovely portrait
> <https://www.wired.com/2013/12/erik-zachte-wikistats/> Wired published a
> while back about "the Stats Master Making Sense of Wikipedia's Massive Data
> Trove".
>
> Dario
>
>
> --
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Katherine Maher is now CEO and ED of the Wikimedia Foundation

2019-02-01 Thread Philippe Beaudette
This is a common sense, reasonable update.  Nice work. :)

On Fri, Feb 1, 2019 at 10:21 AM María Sefidari 
wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> When the Wikimedia Foundation was first established, the head of the
> organization was assigned the title of Executive Director (ED). In the US,
> this is the standard title for non-profit leaders, and made sense for the
> organization at the time.
>
> This week, at our Board meeting, we made a decision to change to this
> convention. We resolved to change Katherine Maher’s title to Chief
> Executive Officer (CEO) and Executive Director. She retains the title of
> Executive Director, and is also now the CEO of the Foundation. She can use
> either, or both, titles to describe her position.
>
> This was an easy decision to make, for a number of reasons.
>
> As our movement has grown in the world, we’ve found that the title of ED is
> not as easily understood outside the United States. As a Board with many
> non-US people, many of us already used the term CEO to describe Katherine’s
> responsibilities. While still an English-language term, it is a very common
> term for many global organizations.
>
> The CEO title is increasingly common in US non-profits as well, especially
> larger ones. This is increasingly considered best practice, as a way to
> communicate that the work of non-profit organizations is as serious,
> complex, and worthy of respect as that of for-profit organizations. For
> example, Creative Commons, one of our closest allies, uses the title of
> CEO.
>
> As the Foundation already uses the convention of “chief officer” for the
> leaders of its internal departments (Chief Financial Officer, Chief
> Technology Officer), it also makes sense. An executive director would be
> the most senior director, whereas a chief executive officer is the most
> senior of the officers.
>
> The Board’s Human Resources Committee recommended this change and reviewed
> the details. As this is an update to Katherine’s title, and not a change in
> her duties as an officer, it does not require an update to the Bylaws or a
> wider consultation.
>
> The Wikimedia Foundation’s Board of Trustees is very supportive of this
> change, as we believe this title better reflects the scope of Katherine’s
> duties over Executive Director alone. This will better support her work
> with global partners and leaders around the world, helping to share our
> vision and supporting the strategic direction of Wikimedia in new markets.
> Katherine’s job is not changing in any other sense.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> María
>
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>
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>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] America may go bizarro, but Wikipedia has a choice to make

2019-01-08 Thread Philippe Beaudette
Perhaps that's the answer, James. But maybe there are others as well,
especially since, by their own admission, that tech is not ready for prime
time (meaning fully editable encyclopedia) yet.

On Tue, Jan 8, 2019 at 5:17 PM James Salsman  wrote:

> Why not just officially support Wikipedia on IPFS, which has been
> hosting the Turkish Wikipedia in Turkey, unlike the Foundation, for
> almost two years now?
>
> https://blog.ipfs.io/24-uncensorable-wikipedia/
>
> https://github.com/ipfs/distributed-wikipedia-mirror
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 8, 2019 at 3:10 PM Philippe Beaudette 
> wrote:
> >
> > Nathan, when you write "the very nature of Wikipedia is
> > maybe the best protection there could be, even against the absurdly
> > unlikely circumstance of a United States government takeover of
> Wikipedia",
> > it's very easy for me to fully and totally agree -- as I would have,
> three
> > years ago.  But in those three years, I've seen things in the US that I
> had
> > never thought I would see.  I've seen the rights that I considered
> > inviolable... violated.  I've seen the resurgence of a brand of
> > conservatism that I find alarming.
> >
> > I find myself, reluctantly, agreeing with Fae that there should be a
> backup
> > plan.  However I choose to believe this is also an opportunity.  What
> > about a fully distributed version that's hosted everywhere, and nowhere?
> > What other options, besides the traditional, can the WMF's bright staff
> and
> > creative volunteers come up with? Surely there's something 
> >
> > Failing that, there's always Iceland. :-)
> >
> > Philippe
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 8, 2019 at 3:05 PM Nathan  wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Fae,
> > >
> > > I'm curious what nation you have in mind for your stable Plan B. Is it
> > > Brexit Britain? France of the Yellow Vests and Front National? Perhaps
> > > Orban's Hungary, Putin's Russia, or Germany with its recent right-wing
> > > resurgence?
> > >
> > > Maybe you'd prefer Jair Bolsonaro's Brazil? I suppose in Italy we'd
> worry
> > > about Beppe and criminal libel statutes, while BJP would hardly seem
> > > welcoming in India and I can't imagine you'd suggest a home on the
> other
> > > side of the Great Firewall.
> > >
> > > Maybe you're hinting at Canada, but otherwise, I'd love to understand
> what
> > > island of liberal stability and legal safeguards you think is safe
> from the
> > > vagaries of electoral politics or rigid authoritarianism.
> > >
> > > The countries I list above have their own flaws (although in each
> case, I
> > > believe, many desirable traits as well) as does any other alternative.
> > > Anyone could reasonably argue it's unfair to stigmatize any of them by
> > > glaringly public flaws.
> > >
> > > To my mind Steve Walling has it right - the very nature of Wikipedia is
> > > maybe the best protection there could be, even against the absurdly
> > > unlikely circumstance of a United States government takeover of
> Wikipedia.
> > >
> > > Nathan
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jan 8, 2019 at 12:17 PM Fæ  wrote:
> > >
> > > > Dear fellow Wikimedians, please sit back for a moment and ponder the
> > > > following,
> > > >
> > > > For those of us not resident in the US, it has been genuinely
> alarming
> > > > to see highly respected US government archives vanish overnight,
> > > > reference websites go down, and US legislation appear to drift to
> > > > whatever commercial interests have the loudest current political
> > > > voices. Sadly "populism" is happening now, and dominates American
> > > > politics, driving changes of all sorts in response to politically
> > > > inflated and vague rhetoric about "security" and "fakenews". It is
> not
> > > > inconceivable that a popularist current or future US Government could
> > > > decide to introduce emergency controls over websites like Wikipedia,
> > > > virtually overnight.[1][2][3][4]
> > > >
> > > > The question of whether the Wikimedia Foundation should have a hot
> > > > switch option, so that if a "disaster" strikes in America, we could
> > > > continue running Wikipedia and Wikimedia Commons from other countries
> > > > has been raised on this list several times over many years. The WMF
> > > > and its employees are heavily invested in staying in Silicon Valle

Re: [Wikimedia-l] America may go bizarro, but Wikipedia has a choice to make

2019-01-08 Thread Philippe Beaudette
Nathan, when you write "the very nature of Wikipedia is
maybe the best protection there could be, even against the absurdly
unlikely circumstance of a United States government takeover of Wikipedia",
it's very easy for me to fully and totally agree -- as I would have, three
years ago.  But in those three years, I've seen things in the US that I had
never thought I would see.  I've seen the rights that I considered
inviolable... violated.  I've seen the resurgence of a brand of
conservatism that I find alarming.

I find myself, reluctantly, agreeing with Fae that there should be a backup
plan.  However I choose to believe this is also an opportunity.  What
about a fully distributed version that's hosted everywhere, and nowhere?
What other options, besides the traditional, can the WMF's bright staff and
creative volunteers come up with? Surely there's something 

Failing that, there's always Iceland. :-)

Philippe

On Tue, Jan 8, 2019 at 3:05 PM Nathan  wrote:

> Hi Fae,
>
> I'm curious what nation you have in mind for your stable Plan B. Is it
> Brexit Britain? France of the Yellow Vests and Front National? Perhaps
> Orban's Hungary, Putin's Russia, or Germany with its recent right-wing
> resurgence?
>
> Maybe you'd prefer Jair Bolsonaro's Brazil? I suppose in Italy we'd worry
> about Beppe and criminal libel statutes, while BJP would hardly seem
> welcoming in India and I can't imagine you'd suggest a home on the other
> side of the Great Firewall.
>
> Maybe you're hinting at Canada, but otherwise, I'd love to understand what
> island of liberal stability and legal safeguards you think is safe from the
> vagaries of electoral politics or rigid authoritarianism.
>
> The countries I list above have their own flaws (although in each case, I
> believe, many desirable traits as well) as does any other alternative.
> Anyone could reasonably argue it's unfair to stigmatize any of them by
> glaringly public flaws.
>
> To my mind Steve Walling has it right - the very nature of Wikipedia is
> maybe the best protection there could be, even against the absurdly
> unlikely circumstance of a United States government takeover of Wikipedia.
>
> Nathan
>
> On Tue, Jan 8, 2019 at 12:17 PM Fæ  wrote:
>
> > Dear fellow Wikimedians, please sit back for a moment and ponder the
> > following,
> >
> > For those of us not resident in the US, it has been genuinely alarming
> > to see highly respected US government archives vanish overnight,
> > reference websites go down, and US legislation appear to drift to
> > whatever commercial interests have the loudest current political
> > voices. Sadly "populism" is happening now, and dominates American
> > politics, driving changes of all sorts in response to politically
> > inflated and vague rhetoric about "security" and "fakenews". It is not
> > inconceivable that a popularist current or future US Government could
> > decide to introduce emergency controls over websites like Wikipedia,
> > virtually overnight.[1][2][3][4]
> >
> > The question of whether the Wikimedia Foundation should have a hot
> > switch option, so that if a "disaster" strikes in America, we could
> > continue running Wikipedia and Wikimedia Commons from other countries
> > has been raised on this list several times over many years. The WMF
> > and its employees are heavily invested in staying in Silicon Valley,
> > and that will stay true unless external risks become extreme.
> >
> > However, there has never been a rationale to avoid investing in a Plan
> > B. A robust plan, where the WMF can switch operations over to a
> > hosting country with a sufficiently welcoming with stable national
> > government and legislation, that our projects could continue to meet
> > our open knowledge goals virtually uninterrupted and without risk of
> > political control. A Plan B would ensure that if the US Government
> > started to discuss controlling Wikipedia, then at least that published
> > plan would be a realistic response. If they tried doing it, we could
> > simply power off our servers in the USA, rather than compromise our
> > content.
> >
> > If anyone knows of committed investment in a practical WMF Plan B, it
> > would be reassuring to share it more widely at this time. If not, more
> > of us should be asking about it, politely, persistently but perhaps
> > less patiently than indefinitely. :-)
> >
> > Links:
> > 1. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-46739180
> > 2. http://www.lse.ac.uk/ideas/research/updates/populism
> > 3.
> >
> https://www.cnet.com/news/obama-signs-order-outlining-emergency-internet-control
> > "... this order was designed to empower certain governmental agencies
> > with control over telecommunications and the Web during natural
> > disasters and security emergencies."
> > 4.
> >
> https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2019/01/presidential-emergency-powers/576418
> > "The president could seize control of U.S. internet traffic, impeding
> > access to certain websites and 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement: Wikimedia's new Chief of Community Engagement

2018-12-11 Thread Philippe Beaudette
Sounds like an amazing fit for the Wmf. Congrats to you all, and Maggie...
Take a break now. Good job.

Philippe

On Tue, Dec 11, 2018, 10:36 AM Maggie Dennis  Hello, all.
>
> On Tue, Dec 11, 2018 at 1:32 PM Katherine Maher 
> wrote:
>
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > Just over a month ago, we let you know that we had the reached the final
> > stages of our search for a new Chief of Community Engagement.[1] Today, I
> > am thrilled to let you know that we have appointed Valerie D’Costa to the
> > role.
>
> 
>
> I just wanted to follow up myself on Katherine’s note to voice my
> enthusiastic and excited congratulations to Valerie on joining us and also
> to congratulate *us* on being joined by Valerie. Being part of the search
> panel looking for our next Chief of Community Engagement was an interesting
> and illuminating experience; so many people with so many new...and
> different...approaches. I was absolutely electrified when I completed my
> first interview with Valerie, whose considerate and experienced approach to
> community resonated with me immediately and deeply. I cannot wait for the
> opportunity to work with her in her new role. To those of you who haven’t
> yet: you’ll see what I mean when you meet her. :)
>
> Best,
>
> Maggie
>
>
> --
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Avoiding sensory overload at Wikimedia Events

2018-10-25 Thread Philippe Beaudette
When I was at the WMF, one of the things that I most appreciated about
Gayle, our CTCO at the time, was that she always made sure there were
spaces where I, or other deep introverts, could go to reset.  What I liked
about it was that she always had them adjacent to the main activities - for
instance, I could go to a corner of the main area and be alone while
listening to the speaker, as opposed to being surrounded by coworkers at a
table.  I could still engage, but could do it in an area of relative calm.
I would encourage that type of thinking - not just a "total disconnect and
withdraw" model.

Philippe

On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 10:39 AM Natacha Rault via Wikimedia-l <
wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org> wrote:

> Hi Michelle,
>
>  during the francophone wikiconvention we had a special calm room for
> people who need to retire a moment from the crowd because of special needs
> they could have. We were asked also not to come nearby with perfumes and
> other sensory distractions.
>
> A calm room for other people (breastfeeding moms, tired or stressed out
> speakers ect), anybody needing a little rest would be real cool I think.
>
> Also we were given advice at the beginning of the convention that we
> should not force people to present themselves in a group and accept the
> idea of touching people can be felt as being intrusive for some.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Natacha / Nattes à chat
>
> > Le 15 oct. 2018 à 15:38, Michelle Boon  a écrit :
> >
> > Dear all,
> >
> > Like many other affiliates, Wikimedia Nederland hosts several events per
> > year. We do our best to make these events an inclusive and pleasant
> > environment for all participants.
> >
> > Last summer, there was a mail thread on Wikimedia-l
> > <
> https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2018-August/090914.html>
> > on sensory overload  at
> > Wikimedia events. We would like to learn how we can adapt our events to
> > support people who experience sensory overload during events. With this
> we
> > hope to create a safe and pleasant environment for all.
> >
> > In order to learn, we want to hear from you. We therefore made a page
> > <
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Nederland/Organising_events:_avoiding_sensory_overload
> >with
> > more information about this initiative. On the talkpage
> > <
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_Nederland/Organising_events:_avoiding_sensory_overload
> >there
> > is room for sharing ideas and experiences, and discussing  potential
> > solutions.
> >
> > Kind Regards,
> >
> > Michelle Boon
> > Event Organiser & Community Support
> > Wikimedia Nederland
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Update on recruiting for the Chief of Community

2018-10-24 Thread Philippe Beaudette
There are no words for how fantastic Maggie is - personally, and to work
with.  Katherine, you've done the right thing here, and I'm thrilled to see
it.

Philippe

On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 2:33 PM Pine W  wrote:

> Putting our differences aside for a minute, one thing for which Maggie
> will have my eternal appreciation is her stepping into her current role
> during a time of higher-than-average chaos. I don't know how that felt from
> inside of WMF, but from my perspective that appeared to be generous and
> courageous.
>
> Thanks for the update, Katherine.
>
> Pine
> ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine )
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Proposal regarding norms for meeting/deadline announcements

2018-10-23 Thread Philippe Beaudette
On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 4:30 AM Fæ  wrote:

>
>
> I propose that we create a movement wide announcements list
> (wikimedia-announcements) that is intended for broadcasting, rather
> than discussion...
>
>
Hi Fae,

Are you suggesting the creation of another announcements list?  In addition
to  https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaannounce-l?  Is
there something wrong with wikimediaannounce-l?  It even forwards all
replies to this list for discussion.

Thanks,

pb
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Board Recruitment: Updates

2018-05-14 Thread Philippe Beaudette
And even if such laws do not exist (and I'm no expert), as an employee I
would be gravely concerned about taking a role with any employer where I
knew that they would be publishing the reason for my departure.

Now, employees may /choose/ to publish a reason (as I did) but to presume
that it would be mandatory (and to be willing to stake your career on it in
advance) would likely seriously inhibit some candidates from applying.
When you pair that with the WMF's (relatively) transparent organization, I
think the two together would be a significant inhibitor to recruiting.

Philippe

On Sun, May 13, 2018 at 2:10 PM, Joseph Seddon 
wrote:

> "I am unaware of any laws which would prohibit WMF from publishing the
> entirety of executives' compensation
> details including their employment contracts, severance agreements,
> and the circumstances
> in which their departures happen."
>
> Pine, I often appreciate your view and input on a range of topics but to be
> blunt if this is your genuine opinion I'm personally rather glad my
> employer does not base its HR policies and practices on your personal
> interpretation of employment law.
>
> Seddon
>
> On Sun, May 13, 2018 at 8:59 PM, Pine W  wrote:
>
> >
> > Given Jaime's previous statement on this matter, and my general
> > dissatisfaction with WMF's level of financial transparency, I am
> > uncomfortable with his involvement with selecting a new WMF Board member
> > based on his or her finance expertise. I would encourage the Board to
> > reconsider Jaime's role in the selection process, and to place a strong
> > emphasis on identifying a new board member who has experience with
> > significantly increasing the financial transparency of organizations.
> >
> > Pine
> > ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine )
> >
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] The fact-checked encyclopedia

2018-04-16 Thread Philippe Beaudette
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] YouTube shooting and risk assessment

2018-04-05 Thread Philippe Beaudette
I can not speak to current practice at the WMF, but I can speak to practice
when I was there (ancient history, long ago, I know) when I say that this
is something that was carefully considered and there were appropriate
experts consulted at the time.  Knowing the team there like i do, I'm
confident that those plans have not lapsed, and that they continue to give
appropriate (though not paranoiac) consideration to the realities of the
world.

I also know that when I was there, we would have considered it
inappropriate to share detail about those plans publicly, and I continue to
believe that is good practice.

Philippe

On Thu, Apr 5, 2018 at 5:19 PM, Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedia-l <
wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org> wrote:

> Safety of attendees has for a long time been a criteria ... agree, but the
> risk assesement we are discussing here is not about safety, but security. I
> am sure we might not use them all properly, I am also not a native English
> speaker, but they are not the same concept, right?
>
> Now, there were examples where looking at a dossier where the information
> was about only the first one... that's the point here. I am talking about
> events, the first email was about the place of the office... but the
> motivation of a criminal act in both case can be overlapping, so they are
> an unicum in a proper evaluation, IMHO. I am not expert in the field, but
> if you start to assess the risk of someone harming you in SFO, that could
> happen also in another place where many of the same people gather annually,
> and that you also inform millions of people with sitenotices about it.
>
> Now, I don't say that you must inform a lot. But if you are not the police
> you are also not the fire brigade, but you wouldn't write in a candidature
> nothing or simply "if there is a fire someone is paid to extinguish it"...
> you would make more effort, and we do. If you don't want to add another
> paragraph in the final document, rename it "safety and security" but start
> to think organically about it.
>
> Alex
>
>
>
> Il Venerdì 6 Aprile 2018 1:59, Gnangarra  ha
> scritto:
>
>
>  Safety of attendees has for a long time been a criteria that needs to be
> addressed when bidding for any WMF event, the people bidding are the better
> placed to assess the reality of the local situation.  Open bidding
> processes enable others to also critically look at the options,  ultimately
> we are more at risk at home where feel comfortable then when travelling.
>  Every location has its risks, its undesirables, and crime, just getting a
> taxi to and from the airport is a risk reality is its also more likely than
> a terrorist event
> On 6 April 2018 at 03:24, Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedia-l <
> wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org> wrote:
>
> That's why people offwiki say they don't discuss this thing on meta or
> here, because you always have an "answer" like this... this sarcasm. in
> it's way, an example of an unhealthy community.
>
>  Look at what I wrote:
>
> "Even if it is not nice to think about it, and of course you try to do it
> mostly in private, you should clearly write down at least at a certain
> point that you are preparing to all scenario, contacting the police and so
> on. it should be a paragraph in a candidature for an event, IMHO. but it
> should be done."
> that's it. it's not complicated... I know because of partially direct
> experience... it's part of the world, when you are professional. You can't
> prepare an event of certain scale and in a certain areas and ignore it in
> the final dossier. There will be someone who take a look at that. So, who
> talked about "solving terrorism"? just the one who wanted to make a joke.
>
> Maybe people are not big babies and even without constant reminder they
> don't exaggerate. You have no idea with whom I discuss this aspect so far,
> what such wikimedians do in their real life.  They are able to focus on the
> point... the point is security and if you replied this way to this question
> in many situations, you will be considered unprepared.
>
> Alex
>
>
> Il Giovedì 5 Aprile 2018 20:29, Alphos OGame 
> ha scritto:
>
>
>  I heartily agree : build that firewall, and let Cisco pay for it !
> Wait, what were you suggesting in your incipit ? Oh, right, "a way that's
> rational, avoiding to create unnecessary panic of course".
> I'd rather not ask of people organizing conventions (which is already
> time-consuming by itself) that they solve terrorism in their town, which is
> what the police are probably more suited for, if you don't mind ; as a
> matter of fact, it is not one of their duties as convention holders, plain
> and simple, and neither are they doctors, police officers, judges, jesters,
> masseuses, nannies, yoga instructors, cooks, indentured servants, etc
> (except of course if they are, which may happen).
>
> So let's please not overreact, and stick to the current discussion instead
> of 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcing the 2018 Ombuds Commission members

2018-01-31 Thread Philippe Beaudette
Great group!  This is such an important role, it's good to see serious
people filling it.

On Jan 31, 2018 3:47 PM, "Karen Brown"  wrote:

> Apologies for the broken formatting in my original message! I forgot how
> Mailman handles HTML in messages. Please see below for (hopefully) a more
> legible version of the announcement:
> ---
>
> Hello all,
>
> I am happy to announce the new and returning members of the 2018 Ombudsman
> Commission (OC), the small group of volunteers who investigate complaints
> about violations of the privacy policy, and in particular concerning the
> use of CheckUser and Oversight[1] tools, on any Wikimedia project for the
> Board of Trustees.
>
> [1]
> https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Resolution:Amending_
> the_Scope_of_the_Ombudsman_Commission
>
> I apologize for the length of the announcement. :)
>
> The application period for new commissioners for 2018 recently closed. The
> Wikimedia Foundation is extremely grateful to the many experienced and
> insightful volunteers who offered to assist with this work. This year we
> received applications representing the widest variety of languages,
> projects, and regions I’ve seen since I started working with the committee
> three years ago.
>
> Given the increasing caseload OC has been handing year over year, we have
> decided to take advantage of the opportunity the diverse candidate pool
> afforded us and expand the committee by one seat; this year’s OC will
> consist of eight, rather than seven, members, with a two-member advisory
> team who will guide the new commission.
>
> I am pleased to announce the composition of the 2018 OC. First, the *new
> members* are:
>
> *Billinghurst*
> Billinghurst () is a
> long-term Metapedian/Wikimedian who served as a steward from 2012 to 2016
> and still serves as a global sysop. He considers his home wiki to be the
> English Wikisource where he's performed over 260,000 edits and focuses on
> transcribing biographical reference data from the 19th and early 20thC. In
> addition, however, to serving as a local administrator on Wikisource he
> also holds the sysop hat on Commons, Meta and the English Wikipedia racking
> up almost 700,000 edits across the projects with almost a million edits
> when you count his bot. He claims to still have a bit of wisdom and
> knowledge to give.
>
> *Jamie Tubers*
> Sam, who edits as Jamie Tubers (<
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Jamie_Tubers>), joined the English
> language Wikipedia community in 2011 and has over the years expanded his
> activities into a wide range of movement activities including co-founding
> the Wikimedia user group Nigeria and helping to organize events like Wiki
> Loves Africa and Wiki Loves Women. He is dedicated to correcting our
> content gaps and biases related to Africa and raising awareness of the
> projects on the continent.
>
> *Dyolf77*
> Habib () started editing in
> 2010 and has been heavily engaged in community affairs, both onwiki and as
> part of user groups, for years. A native of Tunisia, he has been a
> free-culture advocate on a wide range of issues in and beyond the movement.
> Onwiki, you can mainly find him helping out on Commons, where he is a
> sysop, as well as the Arabic and French language editions of Wikipedia.
>
> *Saileshpat*
> Saileshpat () started
> editing Wikipedia in 2012 and soon became deeply involved in the Odia
> community. He has helped organize outreach events and worked to spread
> awareness in his region. In addition he was one of the co-organizers of
> WikiConference India 2016. Saileshpat has helped in a content relicensing
> process, where the Government of Odisha decided to release content under
> Creative Commons licenses. Online he is mainly active on the Odia Wikipedia
> and Commons.
>
> *Elmacenderesi*
> Elmacenderesi () has
> been working on Wikimedia projects since 2007, primarily on the Turkish
> Wikipedia. There, he has been a CheckUser and a Bureaucrat since 2008 and
> an Oversighter since 2011. He is also a member of Wikimedia OTRS and serves
> as a global outreach coordinator, working with academic institutions and
> GLAMs, for The Wikipedia Library.
>
> *Teles*
> Lucas () became a Wikipedian
> in
> 2007 and started to engage with CheckUser rights in 2009, when he became a
> local CU on the Portuguese Wikipedia. He held both Oversight and Checkuser
> rights on Ptwiki between 2015 and 2017, when his term with the rights
> expired. He is currently an administrator on Commons. His traditional main
> focus has been on anti-vandalism work. In 2012, the global community
> elected him as a steward, a position he has held since.
>
> In addition, experienced OC members Lankiveil and Góngora will be
> *returning
> as 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Update on Wikimedia vs. NSA

2018-01-29 Thread Philippe Beaudette
sion of
> these surveillance practices by the U.S. Congress[15] demonstrates that the
> courts may well be the only venue to stop or restrict these practices.
>
> The nature of litigation means that we will not always be able to discuss
> certain details of any case in public. For example, deliberations about
> tactical or strategic decisions will need to remain confidential in order
> to preserve the attorney-client privilege.[16] In such situations,
> particularly in a sensitive and important case like this, we are always
> balancing the need for confidentiality with our commitment to transparency.
> So while some information will not be public, we want to be available to
> address your questions, should you have any. Please direct them to Greg
> Varnum gvar...@wikimedia.org, who can help provide answers.
>
> We will continue keeping you updated on our progress and anything that
> might affect our communities and visitors to the Wikimedia sites.[17]
>
> I would like to thank Tilman Bayer, Nuria Ruiz, Faidon Liambotis, Andrew
> Otto, James Alexander, Brandon Black, Byron Bogaert, Dan Foy, Grace
> Gellerman, Aeryn Palmer and Jim Buatti for their extensive dedication to
> this case.  And thanks to the C-levels supporting this work, Eileen
> Hershenov, Victoria Coleman, and Toby Negrin.
>
> Yours,
> Katherine
>
> [1] https://blog.wikimedia.org/2017/06/23/wikimedia-v-nsa-present-future/
> [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Security_Agency
> [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Department_of_Justice
> [4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pro_bono
> [5] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Civil_Liberties_Union
> [6] https://knightcolumbia.org/
> [7] https://www.cooley.com/
> [8] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upstream_collection
> [9] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_backbone
> [10] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_courts_of_appeals
> [11] https://blog.wikimedia.org/2017/05/23/wikimedia-nsa-appeal-standing/
> [12] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standing_(law)
> [13] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discovery_(law)
> [14] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Data_retention_guidelines
> [15]
> https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-cyber-
> surveillance/trump-signs-bill-renewing-nsas-internet-surveillance-program-
> idUSKBN1F82MK
>
> [16] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attorney%E2%80%93client_privilege
> [17] https://policy.wikimedia.org/stopsurveillance/
>
> *Previous updates for your review:*
>
> June 23 2017
> https://blog.wikimedia.org/2017/06/23/wikimedia-v-nsa-present-future/
> June 16 2017
> https://blog.wikimedia.org/2017/06/16/fake-news-nsa-lawsuit-yale/
> May 23 2017
> https://blog.wikimedia.org/2017/05/23/wikimedia-nsa-appeal-standing/
> December 9 2016
> https://blog.wikimedia.org/2016/12/09/wikimedia-v-nsa-
> hearing-fourth-circuit/
> October 17 2016
> https://blog.wikimedia.org/2016/10/17/wikimedia-v-nsa-appeal-hearing/
> May 9 2016 https://blog.wikimedia.org/2016/05/09/wikimedia-nsa-appeal/
> April 11 2016
> https://blog.wikimedia.org/2016/04/11/new-resource-wikimedia-nsa/
> February 17 2016
> https://blog.wikimedia.org/2016/02/17/wikimedia-nsa-appeal-filed/
> December 15 2015
> https://blog.wikimedia.org/2015/12/15/wikimedia-nsa-notice-of-appeal/
> October 23 2015
> https://blog.wikimedia.org/2015/10/23/wikimedia-v-nsa-lawsuit-dismissal/
> September 28 2015
> https://blog.wikimedia.org/2015/09/28/wikimedia-nsa-first-hearing/
> September 4 2015
> https://blog.wikimedia.org/2015/09/04/motion-to-dismiss-wikimedia-v-nsa/
> March 10 2015 https://blog.wikimedia.org/2015/03/10/wikimedia-v-nsa/
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Austin Hair is gone

2017-12-18 Thread Philippe Beaudette
A tremendous loss to the movement and the world. I count myself lucky to
have known him. My thoughts are with all you grieve.

Philippe

On Dec 18, 2017 5:52 AM, "Asaf Bartov"  wrote:

> Dear Wikimedians,
>
> I regret to have to inform this list that veteran Wikimedian and longtime
> volunteer administrator of this mailing list, Austin Hair (User:Austin
> Hair), has died, after prolonged health complications.
>
> If you knew him, a good place to leave condolences is his talk page:
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Austin_Hair#Condolences
>
> Life is short. Be kind to one another.
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Tool to help reaching community consensus

2017-12-07 Thread Philippe Beaudette
Other than mediawiki, with some extensions?  I'm not trying to be snarky,
but there's not a ton on that page that can't be done with mediawiki.  :-)

On Thu, Dec 7, 2017 at 4:51 AM, mathieu stumpf guntz <
psychosl...@culture-libre.org> wrote:

> Saluton ĉiuj,
>
> Despite the fact that reaching community consensus is an easy task, I'm
> nonetheless wasting time at looking for tools which might help achieve
> that. I just red /4 simplaj ideoj por direkti vian komunumon al
> interkonsento/ <https://lasindias.blog/4-simplaj-ideoj-por-direkti-vian-
> komunumon-al-interkonsento#comments> (4 simple ideas to drive your
> community toward consensus, I'm not aware of an available translation)
> written by David de Ugarte <https://lasindias.blog/indian
> opedia/david-de-ugarte> (in Spanish), which point to Loomio <
> https://www.loomio.org/> as a possible tool for just that.
>
> Loomio offers free use for community cases. But it's non-free software, as
> far as I can see, but I didn't made deep inquiry. So I wondered if anyone
> was aware of a free software equivalent.
>
> Ĝis baldaŭ
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Publicpolicy] Wikimedia Sverige vs. the Visual Copyright Society in Sweden (BUS)

2017-07-08 Thread Philippe Beaudette
For reference, I believe Fae refers to the Defense of Contributors Fund:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Legal/Legal_Policies#Defense_of_Contributors

On Sat, Jul 8, 2017 at 1:09 AM, Fæ <fae...@gmail.com> wrote:

> John,
>
> The WMF has a large legal fund to support volunteers and projects like
> Commons, which from my memory has only ever been paid out on a couple
> of occasions (if anyone has a link to a list, I love to see it). At
> least part of the 89,000 USD mentioned seems suitable for this
> emergency funding, especially as Wikimedia Sverige cannot have been
> expected to plan for these costs.
>
> Has WMF legal been approached to give them a chance to say yes?
>
> Thanks,
> Fae
>
> On 7 July 2017 at 16:41, John Andersson <john.anders...@wikimedia.se>
> wrote:
> > Today we received some bad news in Sweden. The Swedish Patent and Market
> > Court ruled against Wikimedia Sverige in a lawsuit filed by Visual
> Copyright
> > Society in Sweden (BUS). The case concerns images of public art online,
> more
> > specifically in the case of our website Offentligkonst.se, a service
> created
> > by Wikimedia Sverige using images from Wikimedia Commons.
> >
> >
> > The ruling means that Freedom of Panorama is eroded and the public space
> is
> > diminished. It is a detrimental loss for our projects. Next we will talk
> to
> > our lawyers and WMF legal team to see what our remaining legal options
> are.
> > Our lawyers however believe that success is not very likely if we would
> > decide to move forward.
> >
> >
> > Intensive efforts to advocate for our elected officials to change the
> > outdated and problematic clauses in Swedish copyright law will be
> initiated
> > during the year.
> >
> >
> > We have also started a crowdfunding campaign to cover some of the cost of
> > the legal expenses and fines of about 750,000 SEK stated in the verdict
> > (around 89,000 USD) and for future national and international lobbying
> > efforts. Please consider making a donation at
> http://wikimedia.se/en/donera,
> > even if it is a symbolic sum. Simply  add “BUS” in the comment, and all
> the
> > money will be used for these costs.
> >
> >
> > Some useful links (in Swedish):
> >
> > The legal argumentation from the court:
> > http://www.bildupphovsratt.se/sites/default/files/upload/
> stockholms_tr_pmt_8448-14_dom_2017-07-06.pdf
> >
> > Our press release:
> > https://www.mynewsdesk.com/se/wikimedia-sverige/
> pressreleases/domslut-krymper-det-offentliga-rummet-i-sverige-2054679
> >
> > A timeline of what has happened:
> > https://se.wikimedia.org/wiki/Offentligkonst.se/Stämning
> >
> >
> > Best,
> >
> >
> > John
> >
> > - - - -
> >
> > John Andersson
> >
> > Executive Director
> >
> > Wikimedia Sverige
> >
> > Phone: +46(0)73-3965189
> >
> > Email: john.anders...@wikimedia.se
> >
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] General Counsel: Welcome Eileen Hershenov

2017-04-26 Thread Philippe Beaudette
For nearly a decade, I worked (sometimes closely, sometimes not as closely)
with Michelle Paulson.  She dazzled me with her brilliance and her care for
Wikimedia and Wikimedians around the globe.  Anytime that I needed someone
to fight with me because a Wikimedian was in some way threatened, I never
had to check - because I knew that Michelle was either there ahead of me,
or right besides me.

She is unwavering in her care for Wikimedians - she feels that calling very
deeply.  Wikimedia owes much to her.

But speaking personally, I've seen the toll that it took on her, and I've
felt a touch of it myself.  Michelle - go take a good long break.  You've
earned it.  Well done, my friend.  Well done.

philippe

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> 2017-04-26 15:33 GMT+02:00 Katherine Maher <kma...@wikimedia.org>:
>
> > Michelle
>
>
> Michelle was one of my personally favourite employees of WMF with which I
> had occasion to meet face to face - so I wish her great continuation of her
> carrier somewhere else and be missing her.
>
> Hopefully, our new General Counsel will be even better.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Should the Foundation take a position on a general strike?

2017-01-29 Thread Philippe Beaudette
In addition to my previous message

This.

Rogol asks a reasonable question here, and one that concerns me.  The WMF
wields tremendous influence, and attempts to hijack that influence -
however well intentioned and well grounded - should always be stress tested.

On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 9:49 AM, Rogol Domedonfors <domedonf...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> James,
>
> Is there any special relevance to the mission of the Foundation here, or
> this is simply an attempt to use the resources of the Foundation to gain
> publicity for a political cause that you personally favour?
>
>
> "Rogol"
>
> On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 5:41 PM, James Salsman <jsals...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > No. This is very much a case where the foundation sits and waits.
> >
> > Please take this survey: https://plus.google.com/+
> > jsalsman/posts/HPav2YWUag3
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 8:01 AM, James Salsman <jsals...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > Should the Foundation take a position on a general strike?
> > >
> > > https://twitter.com/trevortimm/status/825395993789157376
> > >
> > > https://twitter.com/ericgarland/status/825403294667436033
> > >
> > > I know this is an unusual question, but when is the last time that the
> > U.S.
> > > judiciary has deployed Federal Marshals against its own executive
> branch?
> > >
> > > https://professional-troublemaker.com/2017/01/29/
> > federal-judge-sends-u-s-marshals-to-prevent-trump-
> > from-enforcing-muslim-ban/
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > > Jim Salsman
> > >
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Should the Foundation take a position on a general strike?

2017-01-29 Thread Philippe Beaudette
I could see the Foundation making reasonable preparations against what may
be inevitable - backing up servers, off-site contingencies, etc - but I do
not see this as an issue where the WMF should be a leader in driving
influence.  The issue of a general strike is a generalized protest
against .  I see this as
somewhat different from the SOPA/PIPA issue in that there is no clear and
delineated threat to the WMF's existence - there is certainly a danger in
the form of troubling policy, and I personally am gravely concerned that
such a threat to the WMF's existence may materialize, but I don't yet see
an immediate single incident/issue/law/case that the WMF should take a
leadership role in advocacy against.

I'm prepared to be convinced otherwise, however.



On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 9:46 AM, Todd Allen <toddmal...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 8:01 AM, James Salsman <jsals...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Should the Foundation take a position on a general strike?
> >
> > https://twitter.com/trevortimm/status/825395993789157376
> >
> > https://twitter.com/ericgarland/status/825403294667436033
> >
> > I know this is an unusual question, but when is the last time that the
> U.S.
> > judiciary has deployed Federal Marshals against its own executive branch?
> >
> > https://professional-troublemaker.com/2017/01/29/
> federal-judge-sends-u-s-
> > marshals-to-prevent-trump-from-enforcing-muslim-ban/
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Jim Salsman
>
>
> I'm alright with the WMF taking a position on issues when they're likely to
> have a serious impact on the core mission of Wikimedia.
>
> I fail to see how this is one of those things. The WMF is not a political
> advocacy organization.
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wimedia on line?

2016-09-10 Thread Philippe Beaudette
​No problems here.​

On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 10:20 PM, Peter Southwood <
peter.southw...@telkomsa.net> wrote:

> I have been unable to access Wikipedia, Wikivoyage or Meta since last
> night. Maybe 8 to 10 hours ago. Are the servers on line? Other internet
> seems OK
> Cheers,
> Peter
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] With my thanks to everyone ...

2016-07-13 Thread Philippe Beaudette
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Cross-wiki notifications beta feature now available on all wikis

2016-03-14 Thread Philippe Beaudette
This is an example, in my opinion (as is most of the echo feature) an
example of the WMF doing an extremely fine implementation of a feature that
the community has dreamed of for years.  This is really fine.  Well done to
all involved.

pb

On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 10:01 AM, Fæ <fae...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Is this change related to the standard notifications pop-up window no
> longer working in Chrome (it just sits waiting to get painted), or was
> that an existing bug?
>
> Thanks,
> Fae
>
> On 11 March 2016 at 07:07, Roan Kattouw <rkatt...@wikimedia.org> wrote:
> > In late 2015 and early 2016, the Collaboration team worked on building a
> > cross-wiki notification feature: listing notifications from other wikis
> in
> > the notification panel. We made this feature available on a small set of
> > wikis [1] initially, and about six hours ago we made it available on all
> > wikis as a beta feature.
> >
> > You can enable cross-wiki notifications by clicking the "Beta" link [2]
> in
> > the top right corner (or top left in RTL languages) and enabling the
> > "Enhanced notifications" setting. The notification panels (accessible
> > through the bell and speech bubble icons in the top right/left corner)
> will
> > now display an additional item telling you which other wikis you have
> > unread notifications on, and you can click this item to expand it and see
> > those notifications [3]. For more information, see the documentation on
> > mediawiki.org [4], with mostly complete translations in 13 languages at
> the
> > time of this writing.
> >
> > Because we don't have cross-wiki preferences, enabling the beta feature
> on
> > one wiki doesn't automatically enable it on any other wiki. However, you
> > only have to enable the beta feature to see cross-wiki notifications on a
> > wiki, not to get them from that wiki. For example, if you only enable the
> > beta feature on the French Wikipedia, you will see notifications from the
> > French Wikisource, the Spanish Wikipedia and the Upper Sorbian Wiktionary
> > even if you haven't enabled the beta feature on those wikis. In fact, if
> > you've had an account for a while, you are likely to see some very old
> > notifications from wikis you haven't visited in years; Magnus Manske
> > tweeted a screenshot of this yesterday [5].
> >
> > Please try this out and let us know what you think! There's a talk page
> on
> > mediawiki.org [6] where you can leave feedback. If you find a bug,
> please
> > report it on Phabricator [7] or on the feedback page.
> >
> > Thanks a lot to the Collaboration team [8] as well as community liaisons
> > Nick Wilson (Quiddity) and Benoît Evellin (Trizek) for their work on this
> > over the past few months.
> >
> > --Roan Kattouw (User:Catrope)
> >
> > [1] All French wikis, all Hebrew wikis, Commons, Wikidata and
> mediawiki.org
> > [2] Or go to [[Special:Preferences]] and click the "Beta features" tab
> > [3]
> >
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Notification_panel_with_cross-wiki_notification.png
> > [4] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Notifications/Cross-wiki
> > [5] https://twitter.com/MagnusManske/status/707712047065210882
> > [6] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help_talk:Notifications
> > [7]
> >
> https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/maniphest/task/edit/form/1/?projectPHIDs=Notifications
> > [8] https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Staff#Collaboration
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Disabe Media Viewer for non-logged-in users and logged-in users on Wikimedia Commons

2016-03-14 Thread Philippe Beaudette
Consensus can and should be ignored when it is detrimental to improving the
end product.  https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Ignore_all_rules is an
applicable cite, I think.  It's even categorized as global.

On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 12:31 PM, Vi to <vituzzu.w...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Same with consensus from logged-out users to implement MV.
>
> I have no strong feelings about the issue (anons shouldn't be affected by
> MV side effects but also MV is almost useless on Commons) but well,
> consensus cannot be ignored.
>
> Vito
>
> 2016-03-14 15:28 GMT+01:00 Marc A. Pelletier <m...@uberbox.org>:
>
> > On 16-03-14 10:24 AM, Steinsplitter Wiki wrote:
> > > I request the Wikimedia Foundation to disable Media Viewer for logged
> > out users as well. There is consensus to do so. Please respect community
> > consensus.
> >
> > Really?  You have consensus from logged out users?  How did you
> > ascertain that?
> >
> > Or did you mean that you have consensus from a community that is
> > explicitly not affected by the feature to turn it off for people other
> > than themselves?
> >
> > -- Coren / Marc
> >
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Open letter: Issues needing addressing by the Wikimedia Foundation's Board of Trustees

2016-03-02 Thread Philippe Beaudette
It is deeply unsettling to have my WHAT?  I confirmed no such thing, and
your misrepresentations do you no favors.

One thing I have learned over the last few years is that it is impossible
to have a conversation in a spirit of openness when one party so wildly
misrepresents the statements of the other. That's not good faith dealing.

Therefore, I won't be continuing this discussion with you.

pb

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> Philippe
>
> There is no public evidence of your misleading statements re years of
> careful planning.and execution.
>
> What there is public evidence of is that the WMF has systematically
> evaded its enforcement responsibilities under the Terms of Use.
>
> To cite 1 specific instance, Sue Gardner was repeatedly informed about
> the pedo on-wiki grooming by User Demiurge1000
>
> "Who is responsible for child protection ?"
>
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Sue_Gardner=10496213#Response_to_your_question
>
> It is deeply unsettling to have your confirmation that Sue Gardner sat
> on this for years and it was only Lila (an outsider with no great ties
> to the community) who could globally ban this user out.
>
> PS: You surely recall “I won’t allow the accusations that the anon is
> making to stand on my talk page. I’ve redacted them. Philippe
> Beaudette, Wikimedia Foundation (talk) 21:21, 12 January 2014 (UTC)”
>
> David
>
> On 3/2/16, Philippe Beaudette <phili...@beaudette.me <javascript:;>>
> wrote:
> > Additionally, I believe Coren was referring to the expanded TOU as a
> whole,
> > not to that amendment alone.  And I agree with him, for the record.
> >
> > Lila's support in expanding the size of the CA team was useful in helping
> > to combat the abuses mentioned, but the vast majority of the systemic
> work
> > took place under Sue, and was the result of years of careful planning and
> > execution.
> >
> > pb
> >
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Open letter: Issues needing addressing by the Wikimedia Foundation's Board of Trustees

2016-03-01 Thread Philippe Beaudette
Additionally, I believe Coren was referring to the expanded TOU as a whole,
not to that amendment alone.  And I agree with him, for the record.

Lila's support in expanding the size of the CA team was useful in helping
to combat the abuses mentioned, but the vast majority of the systemic work
took place under Sue, and was the result of years of careful planning and
execution.

pb

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> Dave, you're simply mistaken.
>
> The paid editing amendment was passed by the Board in April 2014 (before
> Lila was hired); it was merely *announced* in June.
>
> -Pete
> [[User:Peteforsyth]]
>
> On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 8:59 AM, David Emrany <david.emr...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Dear Coren
> >
> > I think you are mistaken. The paid editing amendment was added in 2014
> > (16th June) during Lila's term.[1] Lila took over the reins from Sue
> > on 1 June 2014.
> >
> > I'm appalled that you credit Sue for the steps taken (under Lila) to
> > widen the volunteer base by exposing many rotten apples, including
> > through better technology.
> >
> > I equally state with certainty that your claim re the WMF's not
> > preventing in any way the investigations is tremendously flexible with
> > the truth and is completely divorced from reality. The enforcement of
> > the Terms of Use lies exclusively with the WMF. There is no point
> > repeating here the legal defeats WMF has suffered in many
> > international courts during Sue's regime. We can discuss this
> > privately.
> >
> > [1]
> >
> https://wikimediafoundation.org/w/index.php?title=Terms_of_Use=revision=98138=90463
> >
> > BTW, its unclear how someone "tangentially involved" can state facts
> > with "absolute certainty".
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > On 3/1/16, Marc A. Pelletier <m...@uberbox.org> wrote:
> > > On 16-03-01 03:57 AM, David Emrany wrote:
> > >> What nobody is prepared to acknowledge is that only under Lila's term
> > >> some of the most blatant and egregious instances of coordinated PR
> > >> socking and on-wiki abuses could come out.
> > >
> > > I was tangentially part of the investigation that led to many of those
> > > things being ferreted out and I can tell you with absolute certainty:
> > >
> > > (a) The Foundation did not in any way prevent those investigations for
> > > abuse in the past (before or after Lila), so saying that "only under
> > > Lila's term [they] could come out" is at best misguided.
> > >
> > > (b) The single biggest help we have had in being able that kind of
> abuse
> > > were the revised terms of use, that were put in place in 2012 and
> > > started being worked on at least a year prior.  As far as I know the ED
> > > had minor to no involvement in this - that was a long-overdue
> initiative
> > > from Legal.  But even *if* it had ED involvement, it would have been
> all
> > > Sue.
> > >
> > > (c) The foundation has always given volunteers support when we needed
> > > Legal/Comm help getting rid of significant abuse, for as long as I can
> > > remember (At least since 2008).  The help they were *able* to give at
> > > the time was more limited because the LCA team was tiny and overworked,
> > > but they always tried their best.
> > >
> > > So, nobody is "prepared to acknowledge" your assertion because it has
> no
> > > relationship with reality.
> > >
> > > -- Coren / Marc
> > >
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] NY Times on Google team dynamics/success research

2016-02-29 Thread Philippe Beaudette
Jordan,

This is fantastic stuff. Thanks to you and to George for calling it to our
attention. This is my reading for the night...

Philippe

On Monday, February 29, 2016, Jordan Adler <jmad...@google.com> wrote:

> We've shared our findings here: https://rework.withgoogle.com/
>
> On Sat, Feb 27, 2016 at 9:50 AM George Herbert <george.herb...@gmail.com
> <javascript:;>>
> wrote:
>
> >
> > Relevant to the discussion on Foundation issues...  The NY Times reports
> > on Google's research into what made some teams succeed and some fail.
> >
> > Short answer: Team norms to respect the individual members, for everyone
> > to get a chance to talk and contribute and be heard.
> >
> >
> >
> http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/02/28/magazine/what-google-learned-from-its-quest-to-build-the-perfect-team.html?smid=tw-nytimes=cur&_r=0=https://t.co/m4sRhDftJz
> >
> > George William Herbert
> > Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] The right time is now!

2016-02-25 Thread Philippe Beaudette
the rest
> of
> > > > us in your and our common revolution.
> > > >
> > > > I imagine one democratic Wikimedia movement, based on solidarity,
> > > > common values and common culture. I imagine all of us have the same
> > > > goals and help each other to achieve them. I imagine us as the seed
> > > > for the future United Federations of Planets (and, yes, when I come
> to
> > > > San Francisco, I want you to show me Starfleet Command!).
> > > >
> > > > So, please, go back to your revolutionary cells, create your vision
> of
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> > > > to us on Meta, lead the discussion, lead the revolution! You've shown
> > > > that you are capable to do that.
> > > >
> > > > The right time to do that is now! Please, don't miss this
> > > > once-in-lifetime opportunity!
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Katy Love to direct WMF Resources team

2016-02-25 Thread Philippe Beaudette
Congrats to Katy. She will be an excellent person for this role.

On Thursday, February 25, 2016, Maggie Dennis <mden...@wikimedia.org> wrote:

> Hello, all.
>
> I am delighted to announce that Katy Love has agreed to step into the role
> of Director of Resources in the Community Engagement department, picking up
> the baton so ably carried by Siko Bouterse before her. Katy has been with
> the Wikimedia Foundation since January 2013, beginning as the first program
> officer to work with the Funds Dissemination Committee (FDC). I’m grateful
> to her for moving into this role and am looking forward to collaborating
> with her closely in WMF’s Community Engagement department.
>
> We will be hiring her replacement to oversee the FDC/full annual plan
> grants program in the weeks ahead.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Maggie
>
> P.S. Their page! https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Resources
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Another goodbye

2016-02-11 Thread Philippe Beaudette
Wow.  What a loss. I will never forget your boundless enthusiasm for this
movement, and I loved our semi-regular walking meetings, Siko. I know you
will do so much for wherever you end up.  What a tremendous asset you will
be to them!  Your gifts are tremendous - almost as big as your heart.

Best,
pb

On Thursday, February 11, 2016, Steven Crossin <cro0...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Wow Siko. This comes as a massive surprise. It was a pleasure working with
> you on dispute resolution on my time as a Wikimedia Fellow. I'll always
> remember the support you gave me and how I grew as a result. I consider you
> a great friend and I'll miss you a lot. I wish you all the best in your
> future endeavours. You will be sorely missed.
>
> Steve
>
> *Steven Crossin*
> *cro0...@gmail.com <javascript:;> <cro0...@gmail.com <javascript:;>>*
>
> On 12 February 2016 at 12:24, Siko Bouterse <sboute...@wikimedia.org
> <javascript:;>> wrote:
>
> > Dear friends and colleagues,
> >
> > I’ve had the amazing privilege of serving this movement in a staff
> capacity
> > for the past 4 ½ years, but I’ve now decided to move on from my role at
> the
> > Wikimedia Foundation.
> >
> > Transparency, integrity, community and free knowledge remain deeply
> > important to me, and I believe I will be better placed to represent those
> > values in a volunteer capacity at this time. I am and will always remain
> a
> > Wikimedian, so you'll still see me around the projects (User:Seeeko),
> > hopefully with renewed energy and joy in volunteering.
> >
> > This movement has become my home in so many unexpected ways, and I’m
> truly
> > honored to have learned from so many of you. It was an amazing experience
> > to have partnered with smart, bold, and dedicated community folks to
> > experiment with projects like Teahouse, IdeaLab, Inspire, Individual
> > Engagement Grants, and Reimagining Grants. I’ve seen you create some
> really
> > incredible content, ideas, tools, programs, processes, committees and
> > organizations, all in the service of free knowledge.
> >
> > I expect my last day to be Thursday, February 25th. I have full
> confidence
> > in Maggie Dennis's abilities to lead the Community Engagement Department,
> > and I trust that my team will remain available to support the community’s
> > needs for grants and other resources throughout this time of transition.
> >
> > Much love,
> > Siko
> >
> > --
> > Siko Bouterse
> > Wikimedia Foundation, Inc.
> >
> > *Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in
> the
> > sum of all knowledge. *
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Farewell <3

2016-02-09 Thread Philippe Beaudette
] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IEG
> > [6] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Diversity_Conference
> > [7] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/The_Wikipedia_Library
> > [8] https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/The_Wikipedia_Adventure
> > [9] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Evaluation
> > [10]
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Central_and_Eastern_Europe
> > [11] https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Education
> > [12]
> >
> https://outreach.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Education/Countries=70367
> > [13] https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Education/Countries
> > [14]
> >
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File%3ACEE_2015_State_of_the_CEE_Movement_Presentation.pdf=28
> > [15] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/The_wiki_way
> > [16] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Msannakoval
> >
> > --
> >
> > Anna Koval, M.Ed.
> > Manager, Wikipedia Education Program
> > Wikimedia Foundation
> > +1.415.839.6885 x 6729
> > Skype: annakoval.wiki
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Upcoming Changes to Community Engagement

2016-02-08 Thread Philippe Beaudette
Losing Luis will be a substantial loss to the WMF.  I sat across the wall
from him for a couple of years and watched him grow and adapt to the WMF;
his legal insight was welcome and targetted.  When he transitioned to CE,
he ably created that team and shaped it.  His loss will be a real hit.

However, with that said YAY MAGGIE!  I've watched her grow for several
years since I hired her as our first community liaison, and you could not
have come up with a better choice for an interim head of department.  She
always had my confidence and respect, and I have often thought her one of
the great under-utillized assets of the WMF.  Exceptional choice.

Best,
pb

On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 12:16 PM, Lila Tretikov <l...@wikimedia.org> wrote:

> Dear all,
>
>
> I am sad to let you know that Luis Villa, our lead for the Community
> Engagement department, will be leaving the Wikimedia Foundation. A year
> ago, Luis took on a big challenge, transitioning from the Legal Department
> to lead the newly created  Community Engagement organization. In that role,
> Luis and our teams were tasked with many recent community initiatives, such
> as the creation of the Community Tech team, gender-related and
> anti-harassment programs, and improved alignment of WMF annual planning
> with the Funds Dissemination Committee. Prior to that, as Deputy General
> Counsel he was responsible for a number of legal initiatives, including
> licensing, contracts, and product counseling. I’m grateful for his counsel,
> and his leadership in the WMF movement throughout these years.
>
> Later this month, Luis will transition out of his current position with the
> Wikimedia Foundation to pursue other opportunities. He will remain in a
> consulting role with the Foundation over the next few months, continuing to
> support our ongoing strategy and annual planning processes.
>
> I want to thank Luis for his commitment to the WMF mission, and for the
> inspired energy and contributions he has brought to our movement. I’m
> looking forward to his future accomplishments and staying in close touch as
> he grows in his career.
>
> Maggie Dennis will step in as the interim director for the CE team
> effective immediately. Her deep community background, passion for our
> mission, and outstanding teamwork are great assets in this transition. She
> will also continue to serve as Director of Support and Safety. Maggie is a
> respected leader, colleague, and community member. I am confident she will
> bring critical insights, especially now as we plan for our next year.
>
> The work of of the CE department will continue as planned, and the overall
> structure of the department (including the Community Tech team, which will
> continue to report into the Product organization) will stay on-course. Our
> goal is to ensure a smooth transition as we continue our progress to
> improve the WMF support for our communities.
>
> It is my priority that the WMF continues to build upon the initiatives we
> started in 2015 in support for the global Wikimedia community. Continued
> leadership of the Community Engagement department at executive level in the
> WMF is a part of delivering on those commitments. We will be looking to
> fill the Community Engagement leadership role with someone with a strong
> background in community programs, and an understanding of the Wikimedia
> movement. We will also look to engage with you to find the right person for
> this role. We will send an update on the next steps and the job description
> shortly, which will include a further discussion of the role on-wiki.
>
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Offlist Re: In Support of Community

2016-01-16 Thread Philippe Beaudette
You called? :)

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wrote:

> Ok, spot the idiot who can't send an offlist email offlist.
> On 13 Jan 2016 09:38, "Chris Keating" <chriskeatingw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > That's what the Googleplex wants you to think!
> > On 13 Jan 2016 00:56, "Asaf Bartov" <abar...@wikimedia.org> wrote:
> >
> > > (perhaps it would be nice to stop wasting everyone's time with this.)
> > >
> > >A.
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 4:32 PM, Nathan <nawr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I've written a guess on what Damon is hinting at. I will reveal this
> > > guess
> > > > at some later date, but for now here is the hash value:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> bd17ae9eef103aec4ce75c8e8ba0c0b9cb45bc63c7bb0b52145642b68b1c6bfb586ea67f18e07e6767b5522765a00e096cf29eceadc0450e8840a19bacb692f2
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [announcement] Ombudsman commission wider scope

2016-01-14 Thread Philippe Beaudette
This is excellent news, and has been years in the making.

On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 1:40 PM, Tomasz Ganicz <polime...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks Dariusz. As not all members of the Ombudsman Commission subscribe
> this list, I forwarded this to them :-)
>
>
>
> 2016-01-14 15:58 GMT+01:00 Dariusz Jemielniak <dar...@alk.edu.pl>:
>
> > hi,
> >
> > I'm writing to you to bring the news that, after a while of work and
> > discussion, the Board has finally addressed the need to amend the scope
> of
> > our Ombudsman Commission, following the community consensus from a while
> > back [1]
> > <
> >
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Scope_of_Ombudsman_Commission
> > >
> > .
> >
> > The resolution was approved in November [2]
> > <
> >
> https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Resolution:Amending_the_Scope_of_the_Ombudsman_Commission
> > >
> > and
> > has been just published.
> >
> > As a former ombudsman, as well as an endorser of the proposal, I can say
> > that while this may not be a huge thing, it still is important and will,
> > hopefully, make our work easier :)
> >
> > best,
> >
> > dj
> >
> > The Ombudsman Commission is currently the body which investigates
> > complaints about violations of the privacy and access to nonpublic
> > information policies established by Wikimedia Foundation and which apply
> to
> > all Wikimedia wiki projects. The Ombudsman Commission was appointed on 23
> > July 2006 by the Wikimedia Foundation Board with the generally narrow
> scope
> > of investigating potential privacy violations performed by users having
> > access to the CheckUser interface (namely CheckUsers and Stewards).
> >
> > Over time, the Ombudsman Commission has received a growing number of
> > requests to investigate cases which are not clearly complaints about
> > individual CheckUser actions but may be potential or real violations of
> the
> > privacy policy. Following the 2006 Board Resolution's definition of the
> > scope, the Ombudsman Commission has consistently rejected these requests,
> > and the applicants remain unsatisfied as there is no other body in the
> > Wikimedia movement tasked to resolve these problems. Therefore, the
> members
> > of Ombudsman Commission, with help of the WMF legal team, asked the WMF
> > Board to redefine the scope of the Ombudsman Commission.
> > The Board of Trustees of the Foundation has accepted the community's
> > consensus and has authorized an expansion of the Ombudsman Commission's
> > scope to include two more tasks:
> > To review, upon request, local project CheckUser and Oversight policies
> to
> > ensure that they do not violate the respective global policies.
> >
> > To investigate, upon request, potential violations of the appropriate
> > global policies by local CheckUsers and Oversighters.
> >
> > Investigation of potential violations of local policies which are not
> > violations of the global polices remain the responsibility of the local
> > project and not within the scope of the Ombudsman Commission at this
> time.
> >
> >
> > [1]
> >
> >
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Scope_of_Ombudsman_Commission
> > [2]
> >
> >
> https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Resolution:Amending_the_Scope_of_the_Ombudsman_Commission
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Strategic planning

2016-01-12 Thread Philippe Beaudette
On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 1:25 PM, John Mark Vandenberg <jay...@gmail.com>
wrote:
>
> Also agree.
>
> I'd like to see strategic plan for the movement done first, and then
> one undertaken for the Foundation when the 'movement's plan is
> finished.
>
>

​That has long been one of my take-aways from the process.  Count me as a
+1 for this idea.

pb

PS - Yaroslav, few things make me happier than hearing that your children
are impressed by the iron barnstar.  I'd love to take credit, but that
credit belongs solely in my friend Eugene Eric Kim's camp - that was his
idea; I just had charge of execution, but I'm so very glad that it is an
idea that you liked.  Working with Eugene was an honor and a privilege, and
I learned a tremendous amount about coordination of a massive process from
him.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] How To Recover From Having Made A Mistake [a reminder]

2016-01-11 Thread Philippe Beaudette
On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 11:41 AM, Marc A. Pelletier <m...@uberbox.org>
wrote:

> On 2016-01-11 1:37 PM, Asaf Bartov wrote:
>
>> "I neglected to look at relevant data before deciding to fund
>> Wikimedia Antarctica"
>>
>
> But, but... the editathon at McMurdo Station was a resounding success!
>
> -- Marc


Plus I know of at least one donation made from Antarctica, that year i ran
the fundraiser...  If that isn't enough to justify chapter creation
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thank you, Jan-Bart and Stu

2016-01-06 Thread Philippe Beaudette
t; > > seem to almost ignore the fact that two long time veterans are
> > > leaving
> > > > > the
> > > > > > Wikimedia Foundation board, as scheduled. Jan-Bart de Vreede and
> > Stu
> > > > West
> > > > > > have been around longer than many regular editors nowadays, and I
> > > think
> > > > > > there are not many people who can recall the days that the board
> > > didn't
> > > > > > have them on it. I have never had the pleasure to serve on the
> > board
> > > > with
> > > > > > them, but a little thank-you from our community side, would seem
> in
> > > > > place.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Stu joined the board already in 2008 (filling Michael Davis'
> seat),
> > > and
> > > > > has
> > > > > > been a solid power on the board's audit responsibilities (I
> believe
> > > he
> > > > > > chaired the audit committee for quite a while) and was a force
> > behind
> > > > the
> > > > > > accountability of movement affiliates. While we often strongly
> > > > disagreed
> > > > > on
> > > > > > affiliate issues, I appreciate the fact that he always remained
> > > > > > constructive and wanted to think about solutions rather than
> > > problems.
> > > > He
> > > > > > served both as treasurer and vice chair.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Jan-Bart was on the board even longer, since early 2007, and I
> > recall
> > > > > > already working with him through Kennisnet (a Dutch foundation
> for
> > > > > > education and IT) before that. Jan-Bart is one of those rare
> people
> > > who
> > > > > > went to ALL wikimania conferences, and can be easily recognised
> > there
> > > > > with
> > > > > > his big smile. I can't remember a theme Jan-Bart didn't work on
> in
> > > the
> > > > > past
> > > > > > years (Affiliates, HR, searching a new Executive Director) and he
> > > > served
> > > > > > the board in many positions, including as chair.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm sure that the WMF communications staff and/or board has a
> nice
> > > > > thankyou
> > > > > > coming up - with a more accurate description of the awesome work
> > they
> > > > > did,
> > > > > > that I now made up from the top of my head. But in the mean time,
> > I'd
> > > > > like
> > > > > > to do it myself: Thank you Jan-Bart and Stu for all the time,
> > energy
> > > > and
> > > > > > effort that you poured into our movement. I know that not all of
> us
> > > > > > appreciate this as much as we perhaps should, and sometimes you
> may
> > > > even
> > > > > > have perceived us as hostile. I do sincerely hope that you had
> fun
> > > with
> > > > > us
> > > > > > though, and I'm confident that you made a big dent in our
> > impossible
> > > > > > mission of sharing the sum of all knowledge with everyone.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I hope to meet you again soon, at least in Italy at Wikimania,
> and
> > I
> > > > hope
> > > > > > to see you around in our movement in many different ways.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Best,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Lodewijk
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Strategic plan

2016-01-06 Thread Philippe Beaudette
On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 2:29 PM, Pete Forsyth <petefors...@gmail.com> wrote:

> ​[Pete]​
>  editorializing, very briefly for now:
>
> This answer is very bizarre. Characterizing the 2010 process as having been
> "outsourced" or not involving staff is wildly inaccurate
> ​
>
-- 

​Quite.  The two people hired for that process (Eugene Eric Kim and myself)
had deep involvement with the Wikimedia community prior to being hired.  I
believe Lila was likely referring to the involvement of the Bridgespan
Group in the process, but I would hasten to point out that their
involvement was largely advisory, and deeply informed by the involvement of
the more than 1000 people who contributed to the development of the
2010-2015 plan.

I can only suspect that Lila's language here was imprecise - I don't think
that process could be legitimately thought of as "outsourced" in the common
usage of the word, nor do I believe that Lila thinks that.  I think she was
mostly operating on the fly and grabbed the wrong word.

But I've been wrong before. :-)
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement about changes to the Board

2016-01-02 Thread Philippe Beaudette
Kevin,

I disagree with nothing you’ve said here.  What I disagreed with was the 
characterization that “certainly” something untoward had taken place.

pb


> On Jan 2, 2016, at 9:41 PM, Kevin Gorman <kgor...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Philippe -
> 
> I totally agree with you that none of my experiences with WMF suggest that
> such a thing is likely to happen.  Organizations and people change over
> time, though - similarly, this is the first time a sitting trustee has been
> dismissed.  Given the unusuality of the situation, in my opinion at least,
> given the *drastic* seriousness that something like deliberately
> withholding documents in such a manner under California state law (I can't
> speak with familiarity about Florida NPO governance,) and the fact that
> both the BoT and James could pretty easily give flat out answers to the
> question of whether or not they think it occurred, I think it's worth
> asking for those answers.
> 
> If James and the BoT agree that such withholding took place, I think it
> demands an outside review of WMF governance.  If James thinks it did, but
> the rest of the BoT disagrees.. given the general respect held for James'
> and the seriousness of the charge, I think an outside review of WMF
> governance is *still* probably reasonably necessary.  If neither thinks
> such withholding took place, then it settles a serious charge quite simply.
> 
> Best,
> KG
> 
> On Sat, Jan 2, 2016 at 7:01 PM, <phili...@beaudette.me> wrote:
> 
>> I don't believe that's "very clear" at all.  You yourself said "If what
>> Ben said is true"  I think it's very possible - to the extent that Ben
>> cautioned against it himself - that this may be a misunderstanding.
>> 
>> In my nearly seven years at the WMF I never once saw corruption of the
>> sort you suggest. Not once. And I think it's safe to say I was well
>> connected.
>> 
>> --
>> Philippe Beaudette
>> philippe.beaude...@icloud.com
>> 
>>> On Jan 2, 2016, at 5:48 PM, Comet styles <cometsty...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> We should probably start with our high and mighty leader, Jimbo, just
>>> like everyone else, He should now be 'elected' into the BoT, no more
>>> free seats..Wikimedia has now grown to an extent where we may no
>>> longer need him to run the foundation or to hold a deciding vote on
>>> issues where he has his own interests in..This problem of lacking
>>> transparency has leaked down to the lower levels of wikimedia as well,
>>> is that the example they are going to set? .. As I said before, the
>>> longer this drags on, the more likelihood of a 'manufactured' truth
>>> coming out..
>>> 
>>> People who do wrong need time to come up with a good lieeveryone
>>> knows this..James spoke the moment he was "fired" for which he was
>>> reprimanded by the same authority that 'fired' him...If what Ben
>>> Creasy said is true, then its definitely not James on the wrong here
>>> and I'd be really effing pissed if he was made a 'scapegoat' by the
>>> powers that be to save their own useless hide..Its very clear that
>>> there is corruption at the highest order at WMFthe question is..
>>> How deep does it go? ..
>>> 
>>> --
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement about changes to the Board

2016-01-02 Thread Philippe Beaudette
again, i disagree with little (if any) of what you say that.  I don’t agree 
with the characterization, prior to any sort of investigation, that something 
was absolutely wrong.  We don’t KNOW what’s gone on, is my point.

So let’s not speculate until and unless an investigation is completed - and 
probably not then either.

pb


> On Jan 2, 2016, at 9:54 PM, Comet styles  wrote:
> 
> I'm quite aware of what James was trying to achieve
> (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Doc_James/Foundation) and I'm
> fully in support of his ideas so if whatever he did was related to one
> of those he mentions on the link, then its quite understandable why
> right now I'm on his side  and not on the the other side...5 of whom
> the community did not appoint (or trusts) and one who is there by
> 'default'
> 
> The issue is not what James did, it was the drastic step taken and
> above all the silence in relation to this from the 'BoT' which has
> become quite deafening..When you fire someone and them make a
> statement regarding it and why, we all would have accepted it  and
> possibly fought it if we had found it unjustified..but when you fire
> someone and then run back into the hole...what are we to assume?..Its
> too early to start an investigation since no one is forthcoming...so
> speculation and allegations are the only things left... I'm not angry,
> I personally don't care but I have seen too much nonsense by the
> hierarchy over the last 5 years to allow another one to be swept under
> the rug under the veil of "privacy" ...
> 
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement about changes to the Board

2016-01-02 Thread Philippe Beaudette
Quite right, I didn’t mean to imply (and in retrospect i understand a reading 
that would miss that detail) that the verbiage in question was yours.

It was not.

pb


> On Jan 2, 2016, at 9:56 PM, Kevin Gorman <kgor...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I know you probably realize this pb, but I just want to emphasize that the
> verbiage that certainly something untoward has taken place wasn't coming
> from me, and would like to stress that to the rest of the list.  It's just
> such a serious matter, that I believe outside investigation is almost
> certainly warranted, unless James agrees that there was no such withholding
> and additionally agrees that the degree of transparency with which his
> removal took place is in line with both the law and the values of the
> movement.  On the extreme end, under california NPO governance, there are
> certain situations where such intentional document withholding could
> actually risk eliminating the normal shield trustees enjoy for most of
> their actions and making them personally liable, so it's a situation that's
> weird enough that clearing it up with transparency and speed is in the best
> interests of the Wikimedia movement.
> 
> Best,
> KG
> 
> On Sat, Jan 2, 2016 at 9:43 PM, Philippe Beaudette <phili...@beaudette.me>
> wrote:
> 
>> Kevin,
>> 
>> I disagree with nothing you’ve said here.  What I disagreed with was the
>> characterization that “certainly” something untoward had taken place.
>> 
>> pb
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 2, 2016, at 9:41 PM, Kevin Gorman <kgor...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Philippe -
>>> 
>>> I totally agree with you that none of my experiences with WMF suggest
>> that
>>> such a thing is likely to happen.  Organizations and people change over
>>> time, though - similarly, this is the first time a sitting trustee has
>> been
>>> dismissed.  Given the unusuality of the situation, in my opinion at
>> least,
>>> given the *drastic* seriousness that something like deliberately
>>> withholding documents in such a manner under California state law (I
>> can't
>>> speak with familiarity about Florida NPO governance,) and the fact that
>>> both the BoT and James could pretty easily give flat out answers to the
>>> question of whether or not they think it occurred, I think it's worth
>>> asking for those answers.
>>> 
>>> If James and the BoT agree that such withholding took place, I think it
>>> demands an outside review of WMF governance.  If James thinks it did, but
>>> the rest of the BoT disagrees.. given the general respect held for James'
>>> and the seriousness of the charge, I think an outside review of WMF
>>> governance is *still* probably reasonably necessary.  If neither thinks
>>> such withholding took place, then it settles a serious charge quite
>> simply.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> KG
>>> 
>>> On Sat, Jan 2, 2016 at 7:01 PM, <phili...@beaudette.me> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I don't believe that's "very clear" at all.  You yourself said "If what
>>>> Ben said is true"  I think it's very possible - to the extent that
>> Ben
>>>> cautioned against it himself - that this may be a misunderstanding.
>>>> 
>>>> In my nearly seven years at the WMF I never once saw corruption of the
>>>> sort you suggest. Not once. And I think it's safe to say I was well
>>>> connected.
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> Philippe Beaudette
>>>> philippe.beaude...@icloud.com
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jan 2, 2016, at 5:48 PM, Comet styles <cometsty...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> We should probably start with our high and mighty leader, Jimbo, just
>>>>> like everyone else, He should now be 'elected' into the BoT, no more
>>>>> free seats..Wikimedia has now grown to an extent where we may no
>>>>> longer need him to run the foundation or to hold a deciding vote on
>>>>> issues where he has his own interests in..This problem of lacking
>>>>> transparency has leaked down to the lower levels of wikimedia as well,
>>>>> is that the example they are going to set? .. As I said before, the
>>>>> longer this drags on, the more likelihood of a 'manufactured' truth
>>>>> coming out..
>>>>> 
>>>>> People who do wrong need time to come up with a good lieeveryone
>>>>> knows this..James spoke the moment he was "fired"

[Wikimedia-l] Announcement

2015-08-31 Thread Philippe Beaudette
Dear friends,

Six years is a long time.  Over the last six years, I've been privileged to
be a part of so many things with you.  And I'm proud of what we've done
together.  For the last six years, I've been a part of things that will
excite me until the day that I die - the things that, together, we did in
service of that phrase - "the sum of human knowledge" - were magical.  I'll
never forget them, and I've been honored to be a part of this movement.

But it's time for me to move on.

As many of you know, for the last couple of years, I've struggled with my
health.  I've come to the unpleasant realization that for my own good, I
need to step back and focus on healing, and then look around for new and
exciting opportunities.

When Sue left, she said that her decision process included looking around
and taking stock of the people and the condition of the Foundation, and
asking herself "Is it safe? If I leave, is it safe?" and when she knew it
was, she began to consider the idea.

I've been doing the same, obviously focused on projects and programs that
are important to me.  And I look around and I know that with the
contributors that we have - brilliant, dedicated, passionate people and
the staff that we have - dynamic, talented, devoted, and fearless it's
safe.  So it's time for me to move on, and to leave it to them.

As a housekeeping note:  I've agreed with Luis that I'll be available until
9/15, though I'll be out on medical leave, so may be slow to answer
questions.  If I owe you something, please remind me so that we can get it
properly assigned out.

You can all reach out to me at any time... phili...@beaudette.me and
any time I see you will be a celebration.

With my deepest affection,

Philippe

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation quarterly reviews for April-June 2015

2015-07-20 Thread Philippe Beaudette
On Sun, Jul 19, 2015 at 1:42 PM, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote:

 2. CA says that there are ...a (legal-approved) list of... event banned
 users, a protocol for appearance (or threat of it) at events by banned
 users and that it will Supply to Conference Coordinators for events
 beginning in Q1 (6/30). Here at Cascadia Wikimedians, I didn't receive the
 list or the protocol. I'm not sure that we need the list, but having access
 to the protocol would be helpful, and I suggest that it be circulated among
 the leaders of affiliate organizations which have in-person meetings even
 if they are not conferences, since we may want to use WMF's protocol as a
 basis for developing our own, keeping in mind that local laws may vary.
 This aligns with the general goal of having friendly spaces in Wikimedia,
 both physical and virtual.


Quite right - you haven't received it... because it was just finished
before Wikimania.  Give us a bit of time to breathe, please. :-)  It will
be circulated as necessary - meaning, we will likely not be providing the
list of names, except to event organizers.  I believe the current intent is
to share the protocol with those who are interested, but I'm honestly not
sure of this - while it was developed on my team, I honestly didn't have
day to day involvement with it, so I need to refresh my memory. :-)

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Board of Trustees Chair and Vice Chair positions

2015-07-16 Thread Philippe Beaudette
Wonderful officer choices; welcome to the new Board, thanks to the
departings.

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On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 4:10 PM, Patricio Lorente 
patricio.lore...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thank you all for your nice words. Just to follow up Jan-Bart's email I'd
 like to add that today were officially apointed to the Board the recently
 elected Board members: Dariusz Jemielniak, James Heilman and
 Denny Vrandečić. Please, join me in congratulating them as well.

 And also to thank the work and continuous commitment with the Wikimedia
 movement of Maria Sefidari, Phoebe Ayers and Samuel J. Klein, who left
 today the Board but we all know that they will continue working along with
 our community.

 And thank you, Jan-Bart, for leading the Board in these past two years of
 changes and transition. You did a great work!


  Patricio

 El jue., 16 de jul. de 2015 a la(s) 7:37 p. m., Edward Galvez 
 egal...@wikimedia.org escribió:

  Congratulations!
 
  On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 5:32 PM, Katy Love kl...@wikimedia.org wrote:
 
   Congratulations Patricio and Alice!!
   Katy
  
   On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 5:27 PM, Christophe Henner 
   christophe.hen...@gmail.com wrote:
  
Congrats Patricio and Alice.
   
Jan-Bart when are you buying rounds?
Le 16 juil. 2015 5:12 PM, Pierre-Selim pierre-se...@huard.info a
écrit :
   
 Congrats Patricio and Alice!

 And thank you Jan-Bart :)

 2015-07-16 17:08 GMT-05:00 Gregory Varnum 
 gregory.var...@gmail.com
  :

  Congratulations (and condolences) to Patricio and Alice! Good
 news.
   :)
 
  Thank you Jan-Bart for your service as Chair and for staying for
sticking
  around for the transition. :)
 
  -greg
 
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   On Jul 16, 2015, at 5:04 PM, Jan-Bart de Vreede 
 jdevre...@wikimedia.org
  wrote:
  
   Hello Everyone
  
   I am happy to inform you that the Board has unanimously
  appointed a
new
  Chair and Vice Chair of the Wikimedia Foundation Board of
 Trustees.
  
   Patricio Lorente will be the new Chair and Alice Wiegand will
 be
   the
 new
  Vice-Chair. Both have several.years of experience on the board
 and
  we
are
  confident that they will help the board grow and be successful in
  the
  coming years.
  
   Personally I am looking forward to helping them get acquainted
  with
  their new role in the coming months as my time on the Wikimedia
  Board
 ends
  in December.
  
   I hope you can join me in congratulating them on their new
  position
and
  wish them success in the challenges facing them.
  
   Jan-Bart de Vreede
   Wikimedia Board of Trustees
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] GLAM Mailing lists

2015-06-08 Thread Philippe Beaudette
The canonical home for the list of lists is
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo.  While it is possible to have
a list hidden from there, it would be pretty unusual for a GLAM list, I
think.

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 Hi guys.

 Just how many GLAM lists do we have?

 Not counting regional ones, I know of GLAM, Cultural-Partners, Libraries,
 got to know about existence of some the paris group (not sure if it's
 even a mailing list technically, but in case it's not then it's weird even
 more). Perhaps there are some (or is it many?) others.

 Should they not be all listed in one place, e.g. on
 https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Mailing_lists with clear data
 about who manages them, what are their scope, rules and how you might joint
 them?

 Just having many is already confusing but when you can't even get a list
 of all of them it's confusing even more.

 I'm sorry if some of the lists I listed were intended as cabalish and not
 to be disclosed to others. I don't think cabalish lists are a good way to
 collaborate for wikimedians.

 Yours sincerely,
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Banner for voting board not displayed in Italian Wikipedia

2015-05-21 Thread Philippe Beaudette
Hi there -

Just acknowledging that we've seen this and are checking it.

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On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 4:49 AM, Ilario Valdelli valde...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all,
 there is a strange behavior in the Italian Wikipedia. The banner for the
 vote for the WMF board is not visible.

 Also from Switzerland I do not see it but I see the banner of Wiki Loves
 Earth.

 The behavior is that I see the banner of WLE more or less 40% of the time
 and in the remaining 60% of time I do not see any banner.

 It seems that the timeslot dedicated to the banner of WMF board is taken by
 an empty banner.

 I have checked the configuration of the centralnotice and it seems OK.

 May someone check it?

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Banner for voting board not displayed in Italian Wikipedia

2015-05-21 Thread Philippe Beaudette
OK, I think the banner is back on for it now.

Not sure exactly WHY it happened, but it's fixed.


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 Hi there -

 Just acknowledging that we've seen this and are checking it.

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 wrote:

 Hi all,
 there is a strange behavior in the Italian Wikipedia. The banner for the
 vote for the WMF board is not visible.

 Also from Switzerland I do not see it but I see the banner of Wiki Loves
 Earth.

 The behavior is that I see the banner of WLE more or less 40% of the time
 and in the remaining 60% of time I do not see any banner.

 It seems that the timeslot dedicated to the banner of WMF board is taken
 by
 an empty banner.

 I have checked the configuration of the centralnotice and it seems OK.

 May someone check it?

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Banner for voting board not displayed in Italian Wikipedia

2015-05-21 Thread Philippe Beaudette
I'm getting it on Spanish.


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On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 8:46 AM, Santi Navarro 
santiagonava...@wikimedia.org.es wrote:

 Actualy I didn't see it on Spanish Wikipedia, but yes on other=20
 projects.

 Santi Navarro

 El 2015-05-21 13:12, Philippe Beaudette escribió:

 OK, I think the banner is back on for it now.

 Not sure exactly WHY it happened, but it's fixed.


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  Hi there -

 Just acknowledging that we've seen this and are checking it.

 pb


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 wrote:

  Hi all,
 there is a strange behavior in the Italian Wikipedia. The banner for the
 vote for the WMF board is not visible.

 Also from Switzerland I do not see it but I see the banner of Wiki Loves
 Earth.

 The behavior is that I see the banner of WLE more or less 40% of the
 time
 and in the remaining 60% of time I do not see any banner.

 It seems that the timeslot dedicated to the banner of WMF board is taken
 by
 an empty banner.

 I have checked the configuration of the centralnotice and it seems OK.

 May someone check it?

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] 2015 Strategy/Community consultation

2015-04-29 Thread Philippe Beaudette
That would be Kim Gilbey, who has been guiding us through the consultation
and the development of the strategic priorities.  We had a meeting about it
this morning, in fact.  Further information is coming soon, I hope.

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On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 8:17 AM, Anthony Cole ahcole...@gmail.com wrote:

 Who has been tasked with summarising the themes in the feedback from the
 2-week community consultation that was held in February/March?

 https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/2015_Strategy/Community_consultation

 Anthony Cole http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Anthonyhcole
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Foundation-l] Single login - decision 2004

2015-04-22 Thread Philippe Beaudette
On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 9:44 AM, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote:

 Eloquence~metawiki


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[Wikimedia-l] Reminder: Office hours on strategy

2015-03-25 Thread Philippe Beaudette
Just a reminder that we're going to hold an office hours on the Wikimedia
Foundation strategy development process in about 15 minutes.  Usual place
and stuff... #wikimedia-office on freenode. :-)

More info on meta at [[IRC Office hours]]

Thanks,
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Open Well-Tempered Clavier

2015-03-21 Thread Philippe Beaudette
Likewise, I adore this project.  I'm so delighted to see this, and love
that it happened just before 3/21, 330 years after the birth of JS Bach.
Thank you, Amir, for sharing this.

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On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 9:41 PM, Gayle Karen Young gayleka...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Listening to this right now with joy. Thanks!


 On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 8:55 AM, Ricordisamoa 
 ricordisa...@openmailbox.org
 wrote:

  Il 20/03/2015 14:39, Amir E. Aharoni ha scritto:
 
  My personal thanks to the people who develop Pywikibot, thanks to which
  uploading 48 huge files to Commons was easy (and indeed, possible - one
 of
  them is over 100MB).
 
 
  \o/
 
 
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[Wikimedia-l] Office Hours with Lila re: NSA suit - 23 March 2015 18:00 UTC / 11:00 PDT

2015-03-19 Thread Philippe Beaudette
Hello everyone,

We’ll be holding IRC office hours on Monday, March 23 at 18:00 UTC / 11:00
PDT to discuss the Wikimedia Foundation’s decision to file suit against the
NSA http://blog.wikimedia.org/2015/03/10/wikimedia-v-nsa/. Wikimedia
Foundation Executive director Lila Tretikov will be there to answer
questions about why we decided to file suit, the importance of this action,
and to hear your thoughts on the issue.

The office hours will be held in #Wikimedia-office on the Freenode network.
You can find information on how to get online, including a link to a
webchat option if you don't have an IRC client, on the meta office hours
page https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC_office_hours#How_to_participate.
You can also find a time converter for the start of the start of the hour
here
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=IRC+Office+Hours%3A+Wikimedia+Foundation+and+NSA+Complaint+iso=20150323T11p1=224ah=1.
Note that the U.S. has just switched to Daylight Savings Time, so you may
want to double check for the time in your location.

Like most of our public office hours, this one will be publicly logged and
will be posted on the meta office hour page shortly after it's conclusion.

Due to the legal issues surrounding this topic, this will be a moderated
session and Lila will not be able to comment on specific legal arguments or
theory. We are currently finalizing the selection of a moderator and will
update the meta office hours page prior to the office hours.

Also, tomorrow (Friday, March 20), Jimmy, Lila, and ACLU attorney Jameel
Jaffer will be doing a Reddit AMA at 4:00 PM UTC to answer questions about
this topic. Anyone who would like to join can do so via this link:
https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA.

Thank you,

Philippe

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimediauk-l] Using list moderation as censorship

2014-11-24 Thread Philippe Beaudette
It should.  As I recall, the idea came from their work. :-)   (Don't quote
me, but pretty sure I'm right.)


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On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 3:58 PM, MF-Warburg mfwarb...@googlemail.com
wrote:

 Looks like Extension:MoodBar aka FeedbackDashboard, which was enabled on
 enwiki for some time.
 Am 24.11.2014 22:26 schrieb svetlana svetl...@fastmail.com.au:

  Think I can run an instance of https://github.com/mozilla/fjord on Labs
  and have various Wikimedia projects (Wikis and Chapters) point to it in
  their sidebar. A universal Leave Feedback link.
 
  It would take people to a page similar to
  https://input.mozilla.org/en-US/feedback, with an appropriate
 disclaimer:
  If you need help or have a problem with Firefox, please visit Firefox
  Support. We could be able to customize it for each project to fit our
  needs. (Include aggressive pointers to OTRS queues and village pumps for
  each project, as appropriate).
 
  Thoughts?
 
  --
  svetlana
 
 
  On Tue, 25 Nov 2014, at 08:19, svetlana wrote:
   I maintain that I would love to have a formal universal feedback
 channel
  for Chapters work. It has to be drama-free, but transparent, and not
  moderated.
  
   Feedback is occasionally not negative, and may contain thorough project
  ideas.
  
   --
   svetlana
  
   On Mon, 24 Nov 2014, at 18:03, Gerard Meijssen wrote:
Hoi,
As there is this constant call for more paper work for chapters, it
  has to
be understood that this is exactly what kills the productivity of
  chapters.
There are always more people with their opinion why this that or the
  other
is amiss. They all have their arguments why they think they are right
  and
consequently contribute to the noise level that is already way too
  high.
   
If anything we should look for ways of appreciating the effect of
  chapters
that does not make them beholden to every John Dick AND Harry and at
  the
same time gives them equal space to move as effectively as the
  Wikimedia
Foundation itself.
Thanks,
  GerardM
   
On 23 November 2014 at 23:02, svetlana svetl...@fastmail.com.au
  wrote:
   
 To clarify: I would like to see a more strong mechanism for review
 of
 Chapters work. This includes thorough feedback channels about how
  Chapters
 communicate, how they spend their funding. Including means to
  dissolve a
 Chapter if a large chunk of people believes it is not working well
  (such
 as, providing inadequate support to the Wikimedia movement).

 This feedback channel is probably not here, but I feel this list
  could be
 an appropriate place to discuss how the above could be implemented.

 On Mon, 24 Nov 2014, at 08:28, svetlana wrote:
  I disagree, the question raised is relevant to the Wikimedia
  movement as
 a whole.
 
  On Mon, 24 Nov 2014, at 02:37, Austin Hair wrote:
   Fae,
  
   Please do not drag this list into whatever trouble you've found
   yourself in on another. Wikimedia-l is neither a court of
  appeals for
   Wikimedia-related lists nor a bullhorn for your personal
  grievances.
  
   Austin
  
  
   On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 1:45 PM, Fæ fae...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Darcy,
   
I am concerned at what appears to be deliberate suppression
 of
questions raising governance related issues from the
 wikimedia
  UK
email list. The email below is an example. The list was
 always
intended to be independent of the UK chapter, though one of
 the
moderators is one of your employees.
   
Could you please confirm that neither you, nor your
 employees,
  are
manipulating this public list to your political advantage.
   
Thanks,
Fae
   
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From: Fæ fae...@gmail.com
Date: 18 November 2014 at 19:24
Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Welcome ro D'Arcy Myers
To: UK Wikimedia mailing list 
  wikimediau...@lists.wikimedia.org
Cc: geni...@gmail.com, Harry Mitchell hjmitch...@ymail.com
   
   
It would be nice to hear from the board how this was
 discussed
  before
offering the interim position. After all, in the several
  interviews I
took part in for WMUK staff, pretty much the first basic
  question was
along the lines of 'have you ever edited Wikipedia?' as a way
  of
assessing what the candidate knows about Wikimedia; so I can
  not
believe this would come as a surprise considering how
  sensitive the
board is on COI and its perception by our community.
   
Fae
   
   
   
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference 2015

2014-09-12 Thread Philippe Beaudette
On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 10:52 PM, Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.org
wrote:

 I suggest we use 'the Oompa Loompa discussion meeting' and
 be done with it.


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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Next steps regarding WMF-community disputes about deployments

2014-09-01 Thread Philippe Beaudette



 On Sep 1, 2014, at 8:45 AM, Todd Allen toddmal...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 That's contradicted by, among other things, ACTRIAL as mentioned above. The
 en.wp community came to a clear consensus for a major change, and the WMF
 shrugged and said Nah, rather not.

That's... Not exactly what I remember happening there. What I remember was that 
a pretty good number (~500) of enwiki community members came together and 
agreed on a problem, and one plan for how to  fix it and asked the WMF to 
implement it. The WMF evaluated it, and saw a threat to a basic project value. 
WMF then asked what's the problem you're actually trying to solve?, and 
proposed and built a set of tools to directly address that problem without 
compromising the core value of openness. And it seems to have worked out pretty 
well because I haven't heard a ton of complaints about that problem since. 

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Superprotect user right, Comming to a wiki near you

2014-08-12 Thread Philippe Beaudette
All,

I just want to call your attention to Lila's statement at
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:LilaTretikov#On_a_Scale_of_Billions
.

pb


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 On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 5:33 PM, Henning Schlottmann 
 h.schlottm...@gmx.net
 wrote:

  On 12.08.2014 16:57, Magnus Manske wrote:
   German Wikipedia had 1.1 billion page views in June [1]. ~300 votes
 (~2/3
   against MediaViewer) do not represent the readers, IMHO.
 
  Claiming to speak for a perceived silent majority will not help you much
  in this discussion.
 

 I do not make any such claim. All I say is that the 300 (is there a movie
 plot here?) do not necessarily speak for it, either.


 
  There is a common pattern in the conflicts between WMF and several
  communities over software developments during the last few years. As I
  wrote two weeks ago to Rachel:
 
  | Decision making seems to be focused on reader experience, including
  | winning readers to become authors, but existing authors and their
  | experience (in both meanings of the word) is ignored. Even by people |
  like Eric, who once was a prolific author himself
 
  | Authors see themselves as the single most important group in the
  |Wikimedia universe. Without their content, there would be nothing: No
  | readers, no fundraising banners, no donations, no employees, no
  | foundation. On the other hand, WMF seems to see the readers (and
  | donors) as their main target audience. Of course WMF knows, that all
  | the projects need content and authors, but in my opinion most of them
  | fail in appreciating the existing authors and focus too much on
  | winning readers to become authors, by simplifying the entry.
 
  This is serious. WMF really needs to appreciate the expertise of the
  author community and accept their experience a important and valid. If
  authors tell the WMF and particularly the devs, that a particular
  function is necessary, then the devs really, really need to think.
 

 I do agree with this. Visual Editor (which works much better these days)
 and MediaViewer are not aimed at the experienced editor. They aim to make
 the reader more comfortable, and try to ease the first steps into editing.
 Winning new editors has been deemed a priority, somewhat at the expense of
 WMF-made support for the power user. This is a judgement call the
 Foundation has to make.


 
  If the community tells the devs, that a particular idea is a bad one, a
  feature is too buggy to be rolled out (as default) or is unsuitable for
  a project at all, this warrants more than just a cursory thought.
 
  A formal RfD must not be taken lightly, overruling it by creating a
  whole new user class, and crippling the elected admins is inpermissible.
  WMF has broken trust again and this time in a unprecedented way.
 

 As Erik pointed out, WMF had made it quite clear that they reserve the
 right to overrule the community in that specific matter, before the
 Meinungsbild was done. WMF then acted as announced, and refused to be
 hacked out of their own servers. An unfortunate escalation on both sides,
 but since they never promised to accept the Meinungsbild (quite the
 opposite!), it was not a breach of trust.


 
  Until this event, I thought the dev process to be broken, not just the
  communication around devs. But now I believe the conflict runs deeper.
 

 It points out an issue we (community and WMF) should discuss, in a more
 general sense. What should the decision process be for technical changes?
 When does the Foundation get precendence, and when should the community
 have the last word? What weight should small-scale votes of editors have?
 Should random polls be done, and included in such votes? Etc.

 The MediaViewer affair itself gets blown out of proportion IMO.


 Cheers,
 Magnus
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Superprotect user right, Comming to a wiki near you

2014-08-11 Thread Philippe Beaudette


 On Aug 11, 2014, at 7:13 PM, Todd Allen toddmal...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 like suppression, it should be
 used only by stewards and community approved functionaries.


I'm confused. Are you suggesting that suppression is not used by staff?  

Super protection can be used by staff, and was. Suppression can be used by 
staff as well, and regularly is. (For instance, if legal were to ask me to 
suppress an edit, under court order). It (suppression) is not a tool we use 
without careful consideration, but it is one we use. I should think the same 
would be true of superprotection- it's not to be used lightly but it is a tool 
in our belt. 

Philippe
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Welcome Rachel diCerbo, Director of Community Engagement

2014-05-28 Thread Philippe Beaudette
Hi Nathan,

Succinctly, at a 30,000 foot level:

The Community Engagement team (staffed with Community Liaisons and the
Director of Community Engagement, Product) leads the efforts to engage the
community around the development and deployment of new tools and
product/features for the projects.

The Community Advocacy team (staffed with Community Advocates and the
Director, Community Advocacy) leads engagement with the community around
strategic change management and major policy rollouts (Terms of Use,
Privacy Policy) and serves as an entry point for things related to
governance functions (Arbcoms, Checkusers and Oversighters, etc).

The descriptions of the work of each team can be found in more depth in the
appendix to WMF's FDC submission. [1].

Best,
pb


[1] -
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:APG/Proposals/2013-2014_round2/Wikimedia_Foundation/Proposal_form/Ongoing_work_areas#Legal_and_Community_Advocacy


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On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 10:15 AM, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote:

 Welcome Rachel!

 Erik (or someone else), is there a succinct description of the mission of
 the Community Engagement and Community Advocacy departments, and/or
 especially a summary of the difference between their roles? Your e-mail
 from December included some of this information, I'm just curious if it has
 been codified in a way that would allow an outsider to quickly grok the
 split.

 Thanks!
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Welcome Rachel diCerbo, Director of Community Engagement

2014-05-28 Thread Philippe Beaudette
Right, we did that last year.  It occurred to me after I sent that that it
wasn't up to date on that section, but you're quite correct.  That work has
now transitioned to the CE team  :)

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On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 10:55 AM, Federico Leva (Nemo)
nemow...@gmail.comwrote:

 Philippe Beaudette, 28/05/2014 19:27:

 The descriptions of the work of each team can be found in more depth in
 the
 appendix to WMF's FDC submission. [1].

 https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:APG/Proposals/
 2013-2014_round2/Wikimedia_Foundation/Proposal_form/
 Ongoing_work_areas#Legal_and_Community_Advocacy


 «We support the rollouts of major Foundation initiatives - such as
 software changes or site policy updates [...] among them the VisualEditor
 beta launch»
 https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:APG/Proposals/
 2013-2014_round2/Wikimedia_Foundation/Proposal_form/
 Ongoing_work_areas#Community_Advocacy

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Child Protection and Harassment Policy

2014-05-28 Thread Philippe Beaudette
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On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 8:28 PM, Chad Horohoe choro...@wikimedia.orgwrote:

 On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 7:08 PM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote:

  I just want to chime in here that I really enjoyed reading Molly and
  John's recent posts in this thread. Simply fantastic posts.
 
  I also loved posts from Thomas, Erik, and Milos in other threads from
  the past day. I think this month of wikimedia-l has made me more
  appreciative of some of the wonderful people in the Wikimedia movement
 and
  I'm grateful for that.
 
 
 This.



Yep.



  And for anyone feeling discouraged about where we are right now, you need
  only consult https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/ for
  memories of bumpy times past that ultimately turned out pretty great. (I
  got curious the other evening... check out June 2007 for Florence's
  announcement of Sue's arrival to the Wikimedia Foundation and November
  2007 and December 2007 for her transition to Executive Director. It's
  pretty good reading and it made me feel a bit better.)
 
 
 2007 was...oh man.

 I was such an immature asshat. How the heck did I never get banned?


What surprises me is how many of the names on the June 2007 archive are
people we still hear from.  Here's to old-timers.  :)

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Slide deck about Wikimedia?

2014-05-25 Thread Philippe Beaudette
What's the intended use?  I may have one that will work. Write me
offlist with details. :)

pb

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 On May 25, 2014, at 1:31 PM, Yves Z zyzz...@outlook.com wrote:

 Hello, Where can I find recent presentations about Wikimedia and what each of 
 the main projects is for?  I visited outreach.wikimedia.org but didn't see 
 slides or overviews.  Thanks!
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] general strategic goals

2014-05-10 Thread Philippe Beaudette
On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 3:02 AM, James Salsman jsals...@gmail.com wrote:

 There have been 64
 respondents from about nine people on three continents to
 http://www.allourideas.org/wmfcsdraft


I think it's important to point out that the survey you have created there
is without context.  That is, simply asking which of those things people
support *in a vacuum* is not informative.  It's also not the question at
hand.  What you intend to ask is which they would prefer *that the
Wikimedia Foundation*, an organization chartered for a particular goal,
adopt as action points.

Your survey is grossly misleading through the absence of context.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement regarding Host for Wikimania 2015

2014-04-21 Thread Philippe Beaudette
On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 6:08 PM, Steven Walling steven.wall...@gmail.comwrote:

 it would be comforting to hear how we've assessed the bid
 regarding the safety issue, and how we're going to be prepared in case the
 worst (robberies, kidnappings) do happen.


Not a small concern.  But, I should point out, one that we've dealt with
before.  We had laptops stolen in Argentina, and physical safety concerns
in Alexandria, as I recall.  I say this not to put a panacea of oh, there
there, it'll be fine in place, but to assure people that this is something
that I know that Garfield and Elle, and the rest of the WMF team working on
this will consider and keep in mind. :-)

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Affiliation in username

2014-04-20 Thread Philippe Beaudette
Amir, this is the first time that one's been brought up.  I'll chat with
OIT about potentially changing moving forward.

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On Sat, Apr 19, 2014 at 11:39 PM, Amir E. Aharoni 
amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il wrote:

 Silly technical remark: Everybody, please stop doing this with parentheses.
 It breaks in right to left languages. Gary-WMF is just as readable, and
 doesn't have this problem. Thanks for the attention.
 בתאריך 20 באפר 2014 02:17, מאת Gryllida gryll...@fastmail.fm:

  On a second thought, do we want to add an optional affiliation field to
  the signup form, so the affiliation goes at the end of username in
 braces?
 
  - DGarry (WMF)
  - Fred (DesignSolutionsInc)
  - David (MIT)
  - ...
 
  So the signup form would look like this:
 
   -
  | |
  | [ Username preview in large green font ]|
  | |
  | Username:   |
  |  ___|
  | Password:   |
  |  ___|
  | Password 2: |
  |  ___|
  | Email (optional):   |
  |  ___|
  | Affiliation (optional; if your editing is related to work): |
  |  ___|
  | |
   -
 
  I.e.
 
   -
  | |
  | [ Gryllida (FOO) in large green font ]|
  | |
  | Username:   |
  |  _Gryllida__|
  | Password:   |
  |  ___|
  | Password 2: |
  |  ___|
  | Email (optional):   |
  |  ___|
  | Affiliation (optional; if your editing is related to work): |
  |  _FOO___|
  | |
   -
 
  Gryllida.
 
 
  On Sun, 23 Feb 2014, at 1:25, rupert THURNER wrote:
   hi,
  
   could wmf please extend the mediawiki software in the following way:
   1. it should knows groups
   2. allow users to store an arbitrary number of groups with their
 profile
   3. allow to select one of the groups joined to an edit when saving
   4. add a checkbox COI to an edit, meaning potential conflict of
  interest
   5. display and filter edits marked with COI in a different color in
  history
   views
   6. display and filter edits done for a group in a different color in
   history views
   7. allow members of a group to receive notifications done on the group
  page,
  or when a group is mentioned in an edit/comment/talk page.
  
   reason:
   currently it is quite cumbersome to participate as an organisation. it
 is
   quite cumbersome for people as well to detect COI edits. the most
  prominent
   examples are employees of the wikimedia foundation, and GLAMs. users
 tend
   to create multiple accounts, and try to create company accounts. the
  main
   reason for this behaviour are (examples, but of course valid general):
   * have a feedback page / notification page for the swiss federal
 archive
   for other users
   * make clear that an edit is done private or as wmf employee
  
   this then would allow the community to create new policies, e.g. the
  german
   community might cease using company accounts, and switch over to this
   system. this proposal is purely technical. current policies can still
 be
   applied if people do not need something else, e.g. wmf employees may
   continue to use sue gardner (wmf) accounts.
  
   what you think?
  
   best regards,
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] I'm back

2014-04-17 Thread Philippe Beaudette
Hasn't been the same without you.  Welcome.


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On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 2:09 PM, JP Béland lebo.bel...@gmail.com wrote:

 Welcome back.

 JP aka Amqui


 2014-04-17 15:07 GMT-06:00 Nathan nawr...@gmail.com:

  Welcome back Millosh! Luckily I feel like you never left, because your FB
  commentary is often so interesting :P
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Proposal: Transparency for Wikimedia paid volunteers

2014-04-04 Thread Philippe Beaudette
Perhaps I'm just being obtuse, but I'm a little unclear on the definition
of a paid volunteer.  Could you possibly try rephrasing it so that I'm more
clear?

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On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 4:14 AM, Fæ fae...@gmail.com wrote:

 Proposal: Paid volunteers should take care to identify themselves on
 Wikimedia Projects and discussions related to Wikimedia Projects.

 Sue Gardner's initial report by the WMF into the Belfer case makes  a key
 decision that there must be effective processes for escalation of employee
 activities that may not comply with Wikimedia local project best
 practice.[1][2] The WMF can direct their own processes for their staff, but
 a consequence for the wider community is that on our projects we should
 have policies that ensure there is simple and straight-forward transparency
 for who is a paid volunteer and may have interests related to their edits
 or their contributions to discussion. The current situation is that paid
 volunteers have no requirement to identify themselves and may contribute
 anonymously or pseudonymously in ways that obscure their interest, in fact
 this is current common practice.

 I am thinking of raising this proposal on meta, so initial thoughts and
 comments on this list would be welcome to decide whether this is worth
 taking forward as beneficial to our volunteer community.

 *Definition of paid volunteer:*
 Paid volunteers are employees, contractors or part time contractors of
 Wikimedia organizations or other organizations having agreements or
 partnerships with Wikimedia. The paid volunteer contributes to Wikimedia
 projects and discussions that influence the content of Wikimedia projects.
 This includes employees and contractors that may not be paid for their
 on-project activities, however their employer benefits from the content of
 the same projects.

 Links:
 [1]
 http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2014-April/070827.html
 [2]

 https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikipedian_in_Residence/Harvard_University_assessment

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Our next strategy plan-Paid editing

2014-03-25 Thread Philippe Beaudette
During the last strategy plan, we struggled a lot with article quality.
Specifically, we struggled with how to MEASURE article quality... we don't
have a strong metric for it or a tool to do it.  AFT actually played with
that a little bit, as well as it's attempt to engage and convert readers
into editors but I haven't yet seen anything that measures article
quality very well.

I'd very much like to see that change.  I had actually hoped, as we
finished up that strategy, that there would be such a tool by this point.

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On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 12:13 PM, rupert THURNER
rupert.thur...@gmail.comwrote:

 The more and more rules is also a concern i experience when discussing
 with newbies, but also with more experienced contributors. My main concern
 is that the terms of use are reflecting US law and English speaking
 countries worries. In this light they should be as slim as necessary for
 fulfilling legal requirements. Everything else should imo go to volunteers
 driven rules in the respective language editions.

 Rupert
 Am 25.03.2014 17:06 schrieb Anders Wennersten m...@anderswennersten.se
 :

  The discussion on the proposed amendment is now closed [1) and it is up
 to
  the Board will review the community comments. And with almost 5,000 edits
  in the discussion - with more than 2,000 editors and 320,000 words in
  various languages and with very different opinions on the subject, it
 will
  be a challenge for the Board to come to a common standpoint if it as all
 is
  possible
 
  Stephen LePorte writes: /The !vote is one strong indicator of the
  importance of addressing this topic/, in which I fully agree
 
  I would like suggest that the issue of paid editors should become one
 area
  to look when we start the work with the next version of our strategy plan
 
  In our last strategy it stated more editors which in reality became
  about the same number but where a few became semi-professional who make
 an
  increasing percentage of all edits. And I believe we should instead of
  more editors had stated more, better articles with higher quality and
  then been more open to means to reach that goal (where more editors could
  had been one mean)
 
  In the same way I would like something like more, better articles with
  higher quality to be a goal for next five year strategy plan and where
  paid edits could be one mean to reach that goal, but which then need to
 be
  supported with proper guidelines recommendations etc.
 
  Personally I am a bit concerned that we introduce more and more elaborate
  rules for qualified editing at the same time the base technique is
 getting
  more complicated (wikidata is great but it puts higher demand on skill
 for
  editors). I do not see that this trend necessary means higher treshhold
 for
  new beginner, as other tools like visual editors make it easier to start.
  But I do beleive the treshhold to become a qualified  a
 semi-professional
  editor IS becoming higher. And perhaps the receipt for last five years -
  more semiprofessional - is not a viable option for next five years
 
  Anders
 
  [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Terms_of_use/Paid_
  contributions_amendment
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Our next strategy plan-Paid editing

2014-03-25 Thread Philippe Beaudette
I wouldn't know, Pete.  But as I recall, it was a manual process, wasn't
it?  And therefore quite difficult to scale and/or adapt for some usages?



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On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 4:35 PM, Pete Forsyth petefors...@gmail.com wrote:

 Philippe,

 The Public Policy Initiative produced strong validation for the Wikipedia
 1.0 approach to assessing article quality. Was Amy Roth's research ever
 published, and are there any plans to repeat it with a larger sample size
 etc.? I'd say we're closer than you think to having a good way to measure
 article quality.

 Pete
 [[User:Peteforsyth]]


 On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 4:25 PM, Philippe Beaudette
 phili...@wikimedia.orgwrote:

  During the last strategy plan, we struggled a lot with article quality.
  Specifically, we struggled with how to MEASURE article quality... we
 don't
  have a strong metric for it or a tool to do it.  AFT actually played with
  that a little bit, as well as it's attempt to engage and convert readers
  into editors but I haven't yet seen anything that measures article
  quality very well.
 
  I'd very much like to see that change.  I had actually hoped, as we
  finished up that strategy, that there would be such a tool by this point.
 
  pb
 
 
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  On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 12:13 PM, rupert THURNER
  rupert.thur...@gmail.comwrote:
 
   The more and more rules is also a concern i experience when
 discussing
   with newbies, but also with more experienced contributors. My main
  concern
   is that the terms of use are reflecting US law and English speaking
   countries worries. In this light they should be as slim as necessary
 for
   fulfilling legal requirements. Everything else should imo go to
  volunteers
   driven rules in the respective language editions.
  
   Rupert
   Am 25.03.2014 17:06 schrieb Anders Wennersten 
  m...@anderswennersten.se
   :
  
The discussion on the proposed amendment is now closed [1) and it is
 up
   to
the Board will review the community comments. And with almost 5,000
  edits
in the discussion - with more than 2,000 editors and 320,000 words in
various languages and with very different opinions on the subject, it
   will
be a challenge for the Board to come to a common standpoint if it as
  all
   is
possible
   
Stephen LePorte writes: /The !vote is one strong indicator of the
importance of addressing this topic/, in which I fully agree
   
I would like suggest that the issue of paid editors should become one
   area
to look when we start the work with the next version of our strategy
  plan
   
In our last strategy it stated more editors which in reality became
about the same number but where a few became semi-professional who
 make
   an
increasing percentage of all edits. And I believe we should instead
 of
more editors had stated more, better articles with higher quality
  and
then been more open to means to reach that goal (where more editors
  could
had been one mean)
   
In the same way I would like something like more, better articles
 with
higher quality to be a goal for next five year strategy plan and
 where
paid edits could be one mean to reach that goal, but which then need
 to
   be
supported with proper guidelines recommendations etc.
   
Personally I am a bit concerned that we introduce more and more
  elaborate
rules for qualified editing at the same time the base technique is
   getting
more complicated (wikidata is great but it puts higher demand on
 skill
   for
editors). I do not see that this trend necessary means higher
 treshhold
   for
new beginner, as other tools like visual editors make it easier to
  start.
But I do beleive the treshhold to become a qualified  a
   semi-professional
editor IS becoming higher. And perhaps the receipt for last five
  years -
more semiprofessional - is not a viable option for next five years
   
Anders
   
[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Terms_of_use/Paid_
contributions_amendment
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Our next strategy plan-Paid editing

2014-03-25 Thread Philippe Beaudette
Handy link for background:  https://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/Quality
(quite old and outdated now, but still good).


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On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 4:45 PM, John Mark Vandenberg jay...@gmail.comwrote:

 If nothing else, the existing community quality rating system (i.e. FA, GA,
 etc.) should be used. It may not be perfect at the individual article
 level, but it does scale well.
 On Mar 26, 2014 6:36 AM, Pete Forsyth petefors...@gmail.com wrote:

  Philippe,
 
  The Public Policy Initiative produced strong validation for the Wikipedia
  1.0 approach to assessing article quality. Was Amy Roth's research ever
  published, and are there any plans to repeat it with a larger sample size
  etc.? I'd say we're closer than you think to having a good way to measure
  article quality.
 
  Pete
  [[User:Peteforsyth]]
 
 
  On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 4:25 PM, Philippe Beaudette
  phili...@wikimedia.orgwrote:
 
   During the last strategy plan, we struggled a lot with article quality.
   Specifically, we struggled with how to MEASURE article quality... we
  don't
   have a strong metric for it or a tool to do it.  AFT actually played
 with
   that a little bit, as well as it's attempt to engage and convert
 readers
   into editors but I haven't yet seen anything that measures article
   quality very well.
  
   I'd very much like to see that change.  I had actually hoped, as we
   finished up that strategy, that there would be such a tool by this
 point.
  
   pb
  
  
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   Foundation, Inc.
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   @Philippewikihttps://twitter.com/Philippewiki
  
  
   On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 12:13 PM, rupert THURNER
   rupert.thur...@gmail.comwrote:
  
The more and more rules is also a concern i experience when
  discussing
with newbies, but also with more experienced contributors. My main
   concern
is that the terms of use are reflecting US law and English speaking
countries worries. In this light they should be as slim as necessary
  for
fulfilling legal requirements. Everything else should imo go to
   volunteers
driven rules in the respective language editions.
   
Rupert
Am 25.03.2014 17:06 schrieb Anders Wennersten 
   m...@anderswennersten.se
:
   
 The discussion on the proposed amendment is now closed [1) and it
 is
  up
to
 the Board will review the community comments. And with almost 5,000
   edits
 in the discussion - with more than 2,000 editors and 320,000 words
 in
 various languages and with very different opinions on the subject,
 it
will
 be a challenge for the Board to come to a common standpoint if it
 as
   all
is
 possible

 Stephen LePorte writes: /The !vote is one strong indicator of the
 importance of addressing this topic/, in which I fully agree

 I would like suggest that the issue of paid editors should become
 one
area
 to look when we start the work with the next version of our
 strategy
   plan

 In our last strategy it stated more editors which in reality
 became
 about the same number but where a few became semi-professional who
  make
an
 increasing percentage of all edits. And I believe we should instead
  of
 more editors had stated more, better articles with higher
 quality
   and
 then been more open to means to reach that goal (where more editors
   could
 had been one mean)

 In the same way I would like something like more, better articles
  with
 higher quality to be a goal for next five year strategy plan and
  where
 paid edits could be one mean to reach that goal, but which then
 need
  to
be
 supported with proper guidelines recommendations etc.

 Personally I am a bit concerned that we introduce more and more
   elaborate
 rules for qualified editing at the same time the base technique is
getting
 more complicated (wikidata is great but it puts higher demand on
  skill
for
 editors). I do not see that this trend necessary means higher
  treshhold
for
 new beginner, as other tools like visual editors make it easier to
   start.
 But I do beleive the treshhold to become a qualified  a
semi-professional
 editor IS becoming higher. And perhaps the receipt for last five
   years -
 more semiprofessional - is not a viable option for next five years

 Anders

 [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Terms_of_use/Paid_
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] draft revised volunteer community survey

2014-03-17 Thread Philippe Beaudette
On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 9:31 PM, Oliver Keyes oke...@wikimedia.org wrote:

 Ah. Yeah. The job of the Community Advocacy bit of Legal and Community
 Advocacy is, as I understand it, to advocate for the community's need
 within the Foundation, and act as a conduit to the community for legal
 stuff. Their job is not to advocate for reduction in public school class
 sizes or more steeply progressive taxation. Indeed, these things are not
 the job of anyone at the Foundation, and never should be. I'm kind of
 bemused as to why these are even being brought up.


That.  :)

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Statement for the police about the fundraising?

2014-03-01 Thread Philippe Beaudette
Hi Alex,

I have checked with Legal.  Our deadline for the response was Friday, and
our response was indeed filed yesterday.  We received an email confirmation
from the authorities that the document had been received and we called them
as well to confirm safe receipt.  It might of course have been that the
writer of the article contacted the authorities before we filed the
document.  We are taking steps to correct this inaccurate report.

Best,
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On Sat, Mar 1, 2014 at 6:38 AM, Alex Monk kren...@gmail.com wrote:

 Apparently they got no response:

 http://www.finlandtimes.fi/national/2014/03/01/5137/Wikipediafailstomeetdeadlineonpolicerequest


 On 10 February 2014 15:41, Jane Darnell jane...@gmail.com wrote:

  Yes, he would definitely have enjoyed this one
 
  2014-02-10 9:51 GMT+01:00, Leinonen Teemu teemu.leino...@aalto.fi:
   On 8.2.2014, at 13.51, Jane Darnell jane...@gmail.com wrote:
   I love this thread - it make me think of Matti Wuori in the movie The
   man without a past
  
  
   Heh :-) These days, I also miss Matti Wuori. :-'(
  
   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matti_Wuori
  
   - Teemu
  
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Link to Wikimedia Shop now included in the English Wikipedia sidebar

2014-02-27 Thread Philippe Beaudette
I'm confused.  That link has been there, like, forever, hasn't it?  Or for
quite a long time?  Or am I misremembering that?

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 wrote:

 I wonder what next will we be offered to buy.

 Tomasz

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] RfC: Should we support MP4 Video on our sites?

2014-01-15 Thread Philippe Beaudette
Clarification:  while LCA would love to accept the compliment (and indeed, both 
the l and the ca sides are providing support for this process), it is 
Fabrice's initiative, not one of ours. 

pb

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 On Jan 15, 2014, at 8:05 PM, Liam Wyatt liamwy...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Or better yet... elaborate on your reasons on the RfC page. https://commons.
 wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Requests_for_comment/MP4_Video
 I think it is commendable that the WMF legal team is proposing this
 discussion in such an open and honest way. It is a discussion that has been
 bubbling away for a long time and it is perfectly sensible that we should
 address it formally every now and then. Even if we come up with the same
 answer it is important to revisit major policy decisions periodically in
 case the situation has changed.
 
 I think we can all acknowledge that this particular issue is a good example
 of where two of our deeply held principles are somewhat conflicting. On the
 one hand we hold firm to the idea that our purpose is to share information
 as widely as possible, and on the other we also are very committed to the
 principles of open source. These are both real, valid, principles and it is
 important that we look at the ways that we can balance the competing
 choices that these principles force upon us without pre-judging the
 outcome.
 
 - Liam / Wittylama
 
 
 
 On 16 January 2014 14:28, Brandon Harris bhar...@wikimedia.org wrote:
 
 
 On Jan 15, 2014, at 7:25 PM, Fajro fai...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 No.
 
I think you should probably include a reason why you feel this
 way.  A one-word answer doesn’t leave room for conversation.
 
 ---
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thanking anonymous users

2014-01-14 Thread Philippe Beaudette
Barnstars mostly use a set of templates, right?  (At least, the 80% case).
 We could ballpark it fairly effectively by checking for that set, no?

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 On 13 January 2014 20:32, Philippe Beaudette pbeaude...@wikimedia.org
 wrote:

   On Jan 13, 2014, at 4:18 PM, Oliver Keyes oke...@wikimedia.org
 wrote:
  
   we're getting almost 3,000 thanks
   actions a day, every day
 
  It would be interesting to know if that impacted the number of
  barnstars
 
 
 That would be difficult to track, but we can totally find out if there's
 been any change in, say, wikilove.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thanking anonymous users

2014-01-14 Thread Philippe Beaudette
On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 11:32 AM, Marc A. Pelletier m...@uberbox.orgwrote:


 Add to this the complexity that several barnstars are subst:ed rather
 than transcluded -- but not all -- and you end up with a completely
 intractable problem.


Bah humbug.


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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thanking anonymous users

2014-01-13 Thread Philippe Beaudette
 On Jan 13, 2014, at 4:18 PM, Oliver Keyes oke...@wikimedia.org wrote:

 we're getting almost 3,000 thanks
 actions a day, every day

It would be interesting to know if that impacted the number of barnstars


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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Dells are backdored

2013-12-29 Thread Philippe Beaudette
On Sun, Dec 29, 2013 at 2:25 PM, Emilio J. Rodríguez-Posada 
emi...@gmail.com wrote:


  Naw, it's a great idea.  Let's switch to building our own ARM-based
  servers (by the way, which have already been a flop commercially),
  using only unproven, low-volume available motherboards and having to
  buy and assemble all of the rest of the components.  And then of
  course, we need to design our own cases... and since these have such a
  low performance, we'll need to have a lot more rack and datacenter
  space, of course which comes with a cost... and we'll have to figure
  out how to run our caching layers which require large amounts of
  memory... and our storage layers which require large amounts of disk
  space.  At that point we'll probably need to redesign those boards
  which are incapable of doing these things, so we'll need a team of
  hardware engineers, plus a deal with a manufacturing plant.
 
  So... I think with about a 100 million dollar per year research budget
  we can do this.  Who's ponying up? ;)
 
 
 Funny huh?

 If we use free software, I don't see why we can't move to open-source
 hardware ASAP.



Well, I think Leslie just listed a few, but I'll recap:
- low-availability
- Requires in house assembly
- Requires in house design capacity
- Substantially more rack and datacenter space required
- Insufficient for caching and storage layers
- Cost of manufacturing.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Copyright URAA trolls on Wikimedia Commons

2013-12-29 Thread Philippe Beaudette
On Sun, Dec 29, 2013 at 2:43 PM, Klaus Graf klausg...@googlemail.comwrote:

 But in the case of in the country of origin PD works which are foreign
 government works it is needed that the WMF clearly speaks out


https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikilegal/Use_of_Foreign_Works_Restored_under_the_URAA_on_Commons
 --- like that?

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Some sad news

2013-11-20 Thread Philippe Beaudette
Corrected link:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jackson_Peebles


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On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 9:24 AM, Jake Orlowitz jorlow...@gmail.com wrote:

 User:Jackson Peebles is no longer with us, he passed away in late
 October. Jackson was a Western Michigan University Honors student
 studying behavioral science and biology. He worked as an ice hockey
 referreee and volunteered with the Red Cross. His Wikipedia efforts
 focused on counter-vandalism and adoption, greeting new users,
 encouraging civility, and [obsessively] reviewing recent changes.

 Jackson was a Teahouse host, an instructor in the Education Program,
 and the lead on a Video Tutorials Project through the WMF. User:Go
 Phightins! originaly adopted Jackson but he went on to run his own
 adoption school and facilitated a Western Michigan University course
 himself. Among his userboxes he said, This user is not a Wikipedia
 administrator but would like to be one someday.

 Jackson was born in 1992 in Kalamazoo, Michigan. He graduated Mattawan
 High School and was Senior Class President there. At Western Michigan
 University, he was a 2011 Medallion Scholar. He worked at the Waldo
 Library at the reference desk and volunteered for the National
 Alliance for Mental Illness. He was one of three students in the
 nation invited to represent the US at the International Red Cross and
 Red Crescent’s Global Youth Conference in Vienna in 2012.

 Jackson had recently proposed a WMF Individual Engagment Grant called
 Reimagining Wikipedia Mentorship. I think this project is incredibly
 important and should be pursued, User:EpochFail wrote in an
 endorsement. The grant scored highly and looked likely to be funded.
 A very interesting concept...may become a 'keystone piece' in the new
 editor onboarding process. wrote one IEG committee member. Another
 wrote, Taking a 'Teahouse approach' in building sustained motivation
 and preventing editor dropouts is a wonderful opportunity to develop a
 true mentor-mentee support system that would increase the activity of
 new contributors. Finally, Proposers are highly qualified and driven
 mentors with a useful background in teaching new editors and
 understanding the learning process.

 He was excitedly planning a trip to Australia in the coming weeks.

 On Wikipedia, Jackson earned barnstars in Mentorship, Random Acts of
 Kindness and Resilience. Friends and teachers glowingly recalled his
 sense of humor and his hard work ethic.

 His last edit to our site was on October 21 2013, the day he died.
 Jackson welcomed an i.p. editor to Wikipedia: Thank you for your
 contributions, such as the one you made to Nikah mut‘ah. I hope you
 like the place and decide to stay.

 Please leave remembrances and condolences at
 http://enwp.org/User_talk:Jackson_Peebes. We'll try and contact the
 family and share your thoughts with them. You can read more
 reflections on Jackson's amazing life there. Donations to the
 Kalamazoo NAMI chapter would have made Jackson very happy and are the
 family's wish.

 --Ocaasi14:26, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Copyright infringement - The real elephant in the room

2013-11-13 Thread Philippe Beaudette
On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 2:37 AM, Matthew Flaschen 
matthew.flasc...@gatech.edu wrote:

 A significant problem with TurnItIn is that is proprietary, and can not be
 customized by anyone in the movement.  The fact that it is proprietary also
 means it can never be port of the main infrastructure, nor run on Wikimedia
 Labs.


Another significant issue is the False Positive factor that is created by
our overwhelming popularity.  Frankly, we're mirrored all over the place.
And tools like Turnitin find the mirrors too.  It's not an easy problem to
solve.  I was on the team that looked at this a couple of years back - it's
just not simple, and there are complex challenges.


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Re: [Wikimedia-l] New access to non-public information policy, re-ID requirements and data retention

2013-10-26 Thread Philippe Beaudette
Hi George -

I can tell you that I was in the room as this was being discussed
today. I'm fairly sure that Michelle is going to be following up on
this question shortly. It wasn't being ignored - we are just in that
territory where lawyers like to be certain that when they answer
clarifying queries like yours, they aren't accidentally muddying the
waters further. More soon.

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 On Oct 25, 2013, at 9:19 PM, George Herbert george.herb...@gmail.com wrote:

 Again I ask:

 Can the WMF either publicly or privately provide enough detailed assurance
 as to the digital medium storage plan for these IDs?

 This is or should be a no-go for requiring IDs (or at least allowing them
 to be transferred that way).

 I would be happy to contribute a free independent security audit to a plan,
 if there is a detailed plan to audit.  And do so under confidentiality
 agreement if you need that, as long as you let me share a non-exploitable
 summary with the community...




 On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 4:21 PM, George Herbert 
 george.herb...@gmail.comwrote:

 Going back to the 2011 discussions on otrs lists, a flag was raised that
 challenged whether the WMF had sufficiently secure servers to host copies
 of ID documents that might be electronically submitted, including
 sufficient firewalling and/or airgapping, internal access controls, etc.

 My impression was that once that was raised as a detailed concern, the
 push died off rapidly, but I may be misremembering.

 Let me now ask - Can the WMF either publicly or privately (I live in the
 SF Bay Area and can come over and talk) provide enough detailed assurance
 as to the digital medium storage plan for these IDs?

 This is enough data for someone to do an identity theft with.  The
 physical handling is relatively easy to ensure is proper (locked cabinet or
 the like requires a physical office intrusion).  The electronic...



 On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 4:15 PM, Rschen7754 rschen7754.w...@gmail.comwrote:

 Speaking for myself, I have no problems with the overall idea, and I
 doubt that a lot of the others who have signed the petition do either.

 The problem is in the details of how it is implemented, and that
 appropriate safeguards are not written into place to protect the privacy
 and legal rights of those who (re)identify. I know some European users have
 raised concerns about how the overall policy does not work for them and/or
 would cause them to break the law. I don't believe that they should have to
 stand alone.

 Thanks,

 Rschen7754
 rschen7754.w...@gmail.com



 On Oct 23, 2013, at 4:07 PM, Marc A. Pelletier m...@uberbox.org wrote:

 On 10/23/2013 07:01 PM, Newyorkbrad wrote:
 (I myself can
 think of one and only one, but am curious if there are others.)

 I can also think of exactly one off the cuff (and it is almost certainly
 the same); but I can think of a couple of scenarios where the dissuasive
 effect alone might have made a difference.

 But my understanding is that this is prompted by a more serious focus on
 accountability than over any particular incident.

 -- Marc


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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Use of YouTube videos in fundraising banners

2013-07-16 Thread Philippe Beaudette
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 10:09 PM, Victor Grigas vgri...@wikimedia.orgwrote:

 My thanks to everyone who made it happen - we actually had a player that
 would work on many (but not all) devices and it had the added benefit of
 open source closed captions, which I had never seen anywhere else. It was
 awesome, but the reality of it was that WMF just didn't have enough servers
 or bandwidth to support video on that scale - even if it was open source.
 Everyone in the engineering department who I spoke to agreed that it was
 impossible. I had to speak to the legal department about embedding a video
 from a third party (if that was even possible). I was told that if we were
 to have a link from a third party, on each and every video we would have to
 provide this disclaimer:



The other bit that Victor didn't mention (and I was in the room for these
meetings too) is that the links that were used were Youtube's privacy
enhanced mode links.  They don't actually store any user data unless the
user plays the video (and ours weren't set to play by default) - you had to
choose to play them, presumably after you read the disclaimer that Victor
mentions.  There was certainly informed consent there - I may be
misremembering, but I believe all the videos were also hosted on commons as
well, so that one could search and watch them there instead.  Victor could
confirm that, though.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF unclaimed Google Docs

2013-07-13 Thread Philippe Beaudette
I can only speak for myself, and I don't know what the standard policy is,
but I have an archive of the google docs of everyone who worked for me,
prior to their departures.  I don't know if Office IT does that routinely
or not.

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On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 1:00 AM, K. Peachey p858sn...@gmail.com wrote:

 Only if you bulk transfer action before you delete the account otherwise
 no.

 And afaik (unless they changed it recently) no you can't list them all.

 Its only of the many reasons some people dislike google apps.

 On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 5:46 PM, Federico Leva (Nemo)
 nemow...@gmail.com wrote:
  I was wondering, does WMF still have access to Google Docs left without
  owners, e.g. created by or shared with employees who left (with the
  wikimedia.org Google Apps account, which gets disabled immediately it
  seems)? This may be the same as all documents ever created under the
 domain
  https://docs.google.com/a/wikimedia.org/ , perhaps. Alternatively, does
  someone at WMF have access to a list of all documents created under said
  domain?
  I'm worried about the information loss in the long term. Everything
 should
  be archived, in a way or another, especially as it's produced with
 movement
  money.
 
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