Re: [Wikimedia-l] Future of Wikipedia

2015-07-14 Thread Renata St

 I know this probably sounds like I had to hike 20 miles to school with
 snow up to my waist - which I didn't -  but I offer it only to say that we
 humans are a pretty persistent and creative bunch and when determined
 enough we can make things work.  Sometimes, having to really dig for
 something makes it all that much more precious.


That is my point exactly. The kids these days don't struggle like that -
type in google, hit enter, and boom! No digging required. Served on a
silver platter. And you don't develop appreciation for something you don't
struggle for.

No struggle = no appreciation = no labor of love creating it for others.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Future of Wikipedia

2015-07-14 Thread Renata St

  These kids do not appreciate knowledge and information because they grew
 up
  with its abundance. When I was growing up (and I am only 30), printed
  encyclopedia was the only research tool.

 You would have been 8 years old when Encarta was launched.


I am from a small non-English speaking country. There was lack of even
general books on topics because on how small the population (3.5 million).
I remember I had to do a long research paper on India (history, geography,
culture, religion, etc.). You would think easy - India is a big,
interesting country. Surely there must be books on it. Not so much...
Unless you wanted to read someone's travel impressions from 30 years ago
for 300 pages. Finding the info was the biggest struggle. And so we had
this 12-volume encyclopedia. And it was was like the crown jewel of our
possessions. My mom forbade me to mark anything (even with a pencil) at all
on the pages.


 Those kids never deprived of knowledge and information will never know how
  precious it is.

 Eh you always hit walls sooner or later. A lot of information is still
 buried in libraries (the best soruce I'm aware of for theThe jewelry of
 roman Britain is a book written in 1996). Other stuff is behind paywalls or
 is commercially sensitive. Or simply doesn't exist (there doesn't seem to
 be a solid history of calshot castle anywhere).


You are talking about niche, specialized topics graduate students might
care. Yes, there is still a lot of info locked in the dead-tree world, but
anything that an average high school kid might need is in overabundance on
the Internet (Wikipedia included). In fact, I am becoming convinced that
for this new generation filtering the info from the flood out there will be
a lot more valuable skill than finding info.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Dillon gallery?

2013-08-30 Thread Renata St
Hi Lisa,

Thanks for the reply, I never doubted it's WM event -- it just majorly
surprised me and I still have a bunch of questions:

1) is this the first fundraising event? I have never heard of them before...
2) what's going to happen at that event and why should I go? Invitation had
not a peep about that...
3) why there is nothing about it anywhere?
4) when did this policy change come about? I know Sue was quite adamantly
against it...

Thanks!
Renata


On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 8:39 PM, Lisa Gruwell lgruw...@wikimedia.orgwrote:

 Hi Renata St and Dan-

 I just wanted to assure you that there is no change in fundraising
 strategy. WMF raises that great majority of its funds from online
 donations, with most of them being under USD $30.

 We also raise approximately $6 million from foundations and major donors.
 The guidance for this comes from the Revenue Plan that was developed in the
 five year strategic plan (page 17):

  “In addition to seeking increased support from community donations,
 Wikimedia will continue to raise limited but critical funds from
 foundations, major donors, and licensing and other business partnerships.”

 Yes, the event at the Dillion Gallery is our. That said, we focus the
 lion’s share of our work on the online donation model.

 Thank you,

 Lisa Seitz Gruwell



 On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 5:30 PM, Dan Collins en.wp.s...@gmail.com wrote:

  What are you talking about? A quick Google reveals no evidence that the
  Wikimedia Foundation and the Dillon Gallery have any association, apart
  from we have a wiki page on them. Who is the mail from - WMF or a
 chapter?
  Do you often receive snail mail from them? If not, do you have any
 evidence
  that you haven't fallen victim to an elaborate scam? What is an
  invitation(?) and how does it differ from an invitation?
 
  To borrow your TL;DR, In short: huh???
 
 
  On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 8:09 PM, Renata St renataw...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   Hi, so I got this snail mail with an invitation(?) to an event(?) at
  Dillon
   Gallery on Oct 1 for a suggested(?) donation of $500... and it left me
   confused more than anything else.
  
   What's the event about? I can't find anything anywhere else (not that I
   looked very hard). I understand it's a fundraising function, but
 besides
   that? If I go there, what am I going to get (other than Cocktails 
 Hors
   d'oeuvres)?
  
   What if I don't do the suggested donation?
  
   On a whole different level, since when does Wikimedia do fundraising
   events? I thought it was a policy to abandon attempts to gain major
  donors
   and to focus on the $10 donations? When did that change?
  
   In short: huh???
  
   R.
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[Wikimedia-l] Dillon gallery?

2013-08-29 Thread Renata St
Hi, so I got this snail mail with an invitation(?) to an event(?) at Dillon
Gallery on Oct 1 for a suggested(?) donation of $500... and it left me
confused more than anything else.

What's the event about? I can't find anything anywhere else (not that I
looked very hard). I understand it's a fundraising function, but besides
that? If I go there, what am I going to get (other than Cocktails  Hors
d'oeuvres)?

What if I don't do the suggested donation?

On a whole different level, since when does Wikimedia do fundraising
events? I thought it was a policy to abandon attempts to gain major donors
and to focus on the $10 donations? When did that change?

In short: huh???

R.
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