[Wikimedia-l] Some goodbye to all

2019-06-20 Thread Romaine Wiki
 Dear community,

First I need to mention that the message I sent a few days ago had too
limited information regarding the context of the message. The e-mail was
written by me personally alone, written from my perspective. The email
contained an overview what has happened, written based on e-mails and
eyewitnesses. So if anyone would say it is not true, please add {{Citation
needed}} to that person's saying.




About a month ago I have decided that I will indefinitely no longer attend
any WMF funded events as result of bullying, attempts to silence me,
intimidation and treats against me. This has resulted in that I feel
extremely unsafe as the result of the behaviour of only a few individuals.

This has lead that since the start of this occurring about 18 months ago I
have been over a dozen of times very ill, while I was in the 10 years
before only twice that ill.

I see no indication that the issues addressed are taken seriously, so I see
no safe space for me to be present. In my childhood I was bullied for being
different, I am not interested in a second episode now.




From my parents I have learned to lend others always a helping hand where I
can. As such I was happy to be able to help the organisers of various
conferences and I always tried to make it a comfortable place for everyone.

To my regret I have been informed that some people have indicated that I
have given them an unpleasant feeling. You must know that I never ever had
such intention (also still largely unsure what of me has given you this
emotion) and I am feeling bad that I gave you such feeling. My apologies!


Some people have indicated with last year's conference that they had an
impression of me while I never ever had intended as such. In the past
period I have been thinking about it what would make some people think that
I gave that impression. This includes that some people think that I was
flirting or something with other people, while I actually had no interest
in the other.

I suspect it might have something to do that I almost never really
introduced myself as I always thought that widely diverse people in our
movement would respect me in my diversity.


Perhaps it is good to create some clarity. Traditionally looking, I
understand people expect me as "man" to fall on women, but I do not fall on
the women present at the conferences, as well as that I have a different
gender identification. In other words: LGBT+   Also I am autistic, having
aspergers, having sensory overloads, being claustrophobic, having a hearing
problem, avoiding touching, having an eidetic memory (photographic memory),
etc, being divergent in comparison to many others, I am feeling a bit
socially clumsy.

The first 8 years in the wiki world I was not feeling safe to meet anyone.
In 2011 I visited the first wiki event when Wikipedia celebrated its 10th
birthday. I felt more and more safe and joined more events. You might have
seen me with my large enthusiasm as I feel by providing knowledge to the
world, we make the world a better place for anyone. Now 8 years later I am
leaving as I am not feeling safe again.

But please, do not get me wrong. I live in a country that would probably
win the world championships in complaining. I believe everyone has the
right to complain, as that I see as part of the basic rights of freedom of
expression and thought. It matters however what happens next with
complaints. Every complaint should be judged by independent individuals,
with impartiality, without also any *appearance* of partiality, with taking
into account *all* information, with care and respect to all individuals
involved. (etc) Also anyone has the right to defend themselves against
allegations *before* conclusions are drawn and before decisions are made.
Among other things, three times a conclusion was drawn without talking with
me, with as excuse "we know how he thinks", sorry, but that is a heavy
insult to me.

Behind the scenes I have been trying to address the issues with dialogues,
as well as various other people, who have indicated their concerns, offered
help, offered (actual) solutions, tried to intermediate, etc etc, zero
results, zero self reflection.

There is a limit of what a human being can bear, my limit is here.



In the world, people have been discriminated for their religion, political
beliefs, the colour of their skin, because of their gender, because of a
different gender identity, how they look like, ..., or just because they
are considered to be "weird" when people do not understand the other. I
would prefer that we do not copy that and instead organise a civilised
complaint handling that works independently.



Many of you gave me a welcome feeling, independent from who/how I am. Thank
you!

As I likely will not meet you again, the one thing that rests me to say is:
thank you for collaborating, talking and sharing your thoughts, I wish you
all the best!


Romaine
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[Wikimedia-l] New board for Wikimedia Belgium + evaluation behaviour WMF

2019-06-17 Thread Romaine Wiki
Hello all,

On Saturday 15 June 2019 Wikimedia Belgium had its annual General Assembly
in Brussels.

*New board*
Two board members have indicated to step down:
* Afernand74
* SPQRobin

We thank them for their work and valuable input in the past years!
They remain available for advice to the board.

Two board members were up for re-election after their previous terms ended.
Both board members have been re-elected without any votes against them, and
they will keep serving Wikimedia Belgium in their roles.
* Geertivp - president
* Romaine - treasurer

One new board member has been elected without any votes against.
* Taketa - long term Wikipedia editor and organiser of various activities

Welcome Taketa!

The rest of the board remains the same and the board continues the work and
development of our chapter.


*Evaluation behaviour WMF*
As board we have the obligation to inform the General Assembly and other
stakeholders about the developments with our chapter, both the good
developments as well as the bad developments.

A year ago, with our previous General Assembly, we were hopeful to resolve
the issues we then had with on other organisation in the movement, the
Wikimedia Foundation. Sadly we had to inform the General Assembly that
instead of improvements, the behaviour of multiple individuals from the
Wikimedia Foundation is below any standard. This concerns one member of the
grants team and multiple members of the Trust and Safety team, as well as
their supervisors.

On request of the Trust & Safety team no names are mentioned. Below is a
summary of what happened.


*Case 1*
In April 2017 the treasurer of Wikimedia Belgium (Romaine) spoke with our
new grants staff member from the Wikimedia Foundation as WMBE was scheduled
to change from successful project grants in 2017 and earlier years to
Simple Annual Plan grants. During this meeting the plan for WMBE in 2018
was proposed and was fine for the grants staff member. In the Summer of
2017 this had been worked out, and with an online call our annual plan was
considered fine. With the final submission in October 2017, our annual
grants proposal was reviewed by the grants staff member from WMF, had some
minor remarks we fixed, and was considered to be excellent.

In December 2017 we were informed that our grant request (suddenly) was, to
summarise, complete wrong. It contained factual errors (like facts do not
matter), inconsistencies, the comment that Wikimedia France and Wikimedia
Netherlands could take everything over in Belgium, suggesting that Belgium
has no culture (this is a serious insult to us), and much more.
(For your reference: Wikimedia Belgium had over 90 events and activities in
2017, including a photo contest, education program, GLAM program with
content donations, workshops and edit-a-thons, and more.)

It raised us a lot of questions, which we asked, but our grants member of
WMF refused to seriously answer them.

Even with our lack of information and received insults, we tried to be
constructive and before Christmas we proposed to the grants staff member
that we would re-write during the Christmas holidays our annual plan (as
the staff member had said many times we could improve it). With the e-mail
following from the grants member of WMF this proposal was not rejected. So
during the two weeks of the Christmas holidays we spent many days, together
with the help from another experienced chapter representative, re-writing
our annual plan. After the Christmas holidays, we were ready, and the
response from the grants member from WMF was then that the re-written
version could not be taken into account...

After some further e-mails with this staff member we concluded as WMBE mid
January 2018 that a collaboration with this individual from WMF is
impossible and we banned this individual from ever contacting us again and
we never communicated ever with this person again.

The supervisor of this staff member has been informed by us about what
happened, and refused to even investigate the situation.

A colleague from the staff member took over and we received our budget for
2018. Later during 2018 and 2019 this WMF staff member helped us very well
with questions, provided useful feedback and the annual plan for 2019 which
was approved. We are now happy with this collaboration.


*Case 2*
During the Wikimedia Conference in April 2018 we still had many questions
and our treasurer spoke with various other affiliates if they had advice,
good practices, etc etc, so that we could improve our future annual plans.
Instead of that good advice was given, they shared their similar bad
experiences they had in the past years with our former grants person from
WMF. Many of them indicated that they do not want the feedback/criticism to
be public as they feel that their budget would be cut by WMF as result of
it.

With multiple chapter representatives we started to collect the feedback so
that we could come up with some recommendations for improvements for both
the 

[Wikimedia-l] Tell us about your projects in January, earlier and more!

2019-02-04 Thread Romaine Wiki
Hello all!

What kind of activities have been organised together with or related to
cultural institutions in January or earlier months? Let us know and write a
(short) report about it for the newsletter '*This Month in GLAM*' so that
the worldwide and local Wikimedia community can read what happened in your
area. Also this will encourage others to participate and donate material.

Besides it encourages other people and gives ideas and inspiration for
others in the movement, it also helps the affiliate in your area to do the
annual reporting.

You can start writing here:
http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/Newsroom

If your country/area isn't mentioned on the page, you can always add it to:
http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/January_2019/Contents

Please mention also the coming GLAM activities on our calendar on:
http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Calendar/February_2019

The deadline is at the 7th of each month, this month: 7 February


If anyone needs help/explanation about the newsletter, please ask!

Thanks & greetings!
Romaine


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[Wikimedia-l] How to educate participants of an edit-a-thon so it sticks?

2019-01-31 Thread Romaine Wiki
Hi all,

A few days ago we organised an edit-a-thon in what we had participants
write about important women.

With most edit-a-thon we start with a group of people that know Wikipedia,
but are fully new to editing on Wikipedia. We usually start with an
introduction, which includes telling about:

   - Do not copy paste from other sources, but write in your own words.
   - For all facts sources need to be added.
   - Link keywords to other articles in Wikipedia.

and some more things...


The participants usually do their best, but usually also forget something.
Like for example that a participant forgot to add a source for a sentence.

In our recent edit-a-thon we tried something new: besides the presentation
given and the handout of some instructions, we also created a checklist for
the participants to use at the end of their writing so they did not forget
anything.

That gave us better results than what we have got with similar groups in
the past.



This leads me to my question: when you organised an edit-a-thon, what kind
of cheatsheets, tricks, ... do you use so that the articles of participants
have a higher quality?
(Or that they are more inspired/enthusiastic, more aware, ..., etc)

Good examples?


If we can share those, we all can learn from good ideas and examples!

Thanks!

Romaine
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[Wikimedia-l] Best Dutch contributors of 2018 awarded

2019-01-13 Thread Romaine Wiki
Hi all,

In the Dutch Wikipedia we started in 2015 with awarding the best
contributors of that year with an award to celebrate the best among the
many welcome contributions. We (Taketa & Romaine) got inspired by the German
initiative  on the German
Wikipedia that started a year earlier to do the same and was a big success

The WikiOwls, WikiUilen in Dutch, are symbol for wisdom and free knowledge
of Wikipedia.

The Dutch Wikipedia is known for its hard criticism and we hope that these
awards, to celebrate the valuable contributions, help to balance out the
criticism, as well as that they give inspiration for future contributions.

The process of the WikiUilen on the Dutch Wikipedia is twofold: first any
active contributor on the Dutch Wikipedia can nominate in six categories
other users that they think are the most valuable contributors for the past
year. The six categories are best newcomer, best writer, best illustrator,
best editor, best collaborator and best project. We then make a list of the
nominees and publish it (without indicated who nominated) on Wikipedia.
Second any active contributor on the Dutch Wikipedia can vote secretly.
Traditionally the most valued contributors of the past year are awarded
with a small statue at the new year's event of the local chapter.

The new year's event is an interested event for many editors to come to as
result of a mix of things together. It is hosted at an institution (often
an museum, usually one we worked together with in the past year) where
there is an overview of what happened in the past year and what will happen
in the coming year, an award ceremony for the WikiOwls, a free visit and
guided tour through the institution, and concluded with a drink. This
formula of a combined activity works very well and is for many years a
great success.

Yesterday the new year's event took place in the Netherlands in Burgers' Zoo
 in Arnhem where the
participants had half a day to freely walk through the zoo (and take photos
to enrich Wikipedia of course). With the award ceremony I first gave an
introduction, followed by experienced editors we asked to hand out the
awards.

Today the results of the fully community driven voting (and preceeding
nomination) for the WikiOwls also has been published on the Dutch Wikipedia
(in Dutch) at: https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiUilen/2018


The next edition of the WikiUilen will be organised again starting in
November 2019.


Greetings (also from my colleague Taketa),

Romaine
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[Wikimedia-l] Invitation to organize Wiki Loves Love 2019 + to translate

2019-01-07 Thread Romaine Wiki
*Wiki Loves Love
*
(WLL) is an International photography competition of Wikimedia Commons
happening in the month of February 2019 to document love testimonials.

The primary goal of the competition is to document love testimonials
through human cultural diversity such as monuments, ceremonies, snapshot of
tender gesture, happenings like Valentine's Day, and miscellaneous objects
used as symbol of love; to illustrate articles in the worldwide free
encyclopedia Wikipedia, and other Wikimedia Foundation (WMF) projects.
February is around the corner and Wiki Loves Love team invites you to
organize and promote WLL19 in your country and join hands with us to
celebrate love and document it on Wikimedia Commons. The theme of 2019
is *Festivals,
ceremonies and celebrations of love*.

To organize Wiki Loves Love in your region, sign up at WLL Organizers

page. You can also simply support and spread love by helping us translate

the Commons page in your local language which is open for translation
.


The contest runs from 1-28 February 2019. Independent from if there is a
local contest organised in your country, you can help by making the photo
contest Wiki Loves Love more accessible and available to more people in the
world by translating the upload wizard, templates and pages to your local
language. See for an overview of templates/pages to be translated at
our Translations
page
.


Imagine...The sum of all love!

Wiki Loves Love team

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[Wikimedia-l] Writing weeks about German-speaking Community of Belgium

2018-12-10 Thread Romaine Wiki
Hi all,

From Monday 10 December to Friday 21 December we (community/Wikimedia
Belgium) organise the writing weeks about the German-speaking Community of
Belgium.

The German-speaking Community is one of the three communities in Belgium,
located near the border with Germany and comprises nine municipalities:
Amel, Büllingen, Burg-Reuland, Bütgenbach, Eupen, Kelmis, Lontzen, Raeren
and Sankt Vith. The area stretches from the 3-country point near Vaals
(Netherlands) in the north to the 3-country point near Ouren and Luxembourg
in the south.

This area is unfortunately only very limited described on Wikipedia. That
is why we invite you to write on Wikipedia about this area and help to fill
this gap bit by bit.

Please add the articles you write or translate to the project page. In this
way we know what has been done and it can stimulate other writers to write
and translate.


Project page:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Writing_week/German-speaking_Community_of_Belgium


If you would like to stay informed about future writing weeks, please add
yourself to the mass message list and receive a message when a new writing
week starts:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Global_message_delivery/Targets/WritingWeek


For those who are in the area, on Saturday 15 December we also organise and
edit-a-thon in Eupen, the capital of this area.


Greetings from Belgium!
Romaine
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[Wikimedia-l] Writing weeks started about German-speaking Community

2018-12-09 Thread Romaine Wiki
Hi everyone,

From Monday 10 December to Friday 21 December we (community/Wikimedia
Belgium) organise the writing weeks about the German-speaking Community of
Belgium.

The German-speaking Community is one of the three communities in Belgium,
located near the border with Germany and comprises nine municipalities:
Amel, Büllingen, Burg-Reuland, Bütgenbach, Eupen, Kelmis, Lontzen, Raeren
and Sankt Vith. The area stretches from the 3-country point near Vaals
(Netherlands) in the north to the 3-country point near Ouren and Luxembourg
in the south.

This area is unfortunately only very limited described on Wikipedia. That
is why we invite you to write on Wikipedia about this area and help to fill
this gap bit by bit.

Please add the articles you write or translate to the project page. In this
way we know what has been done and it can stimulate other writers to write
and translate.

Project page:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Writing_week/German-speaking_Community_of_Belgium


If you would like to stay informed about future writing weeks, please add
yourself to the mass message list and receive a message when a new writing
week starts:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Global_message_delivery/Targets/WritingWeek

For those who are in the area, on Saturday 15 December we also organise and
edit-a-thon in Eupen, the capital of this area.

Greetings from Belgium!

Romaine
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[Wikimedia-l] Sensory overloads

2018-08-15 Thread Romaine Wiki
Hi everyone,

In our movement we have a lot of different people, including people with a
different neurodiversity.

Then it can happen that with events organised by the Wikimedia movement,
there are people that get sensory overloads. it basically means that the
input through the senses gets too much at some point. This can result in an
emotional outburst, an instant heavy headache/migraine attack, or in my
case I go (almost) completely blank.

It is really hard to complain how it is like to people who have no
experiences with it.
I think however that we need as inclusive movement to be more aware of the
huge amount of varieties of people and there needs. For that reason I like
to share a thread on Twitter with you how a user I know well has
experienced it herself.

Read at: https://twitter.com/dodocurieux/status/1029743772584865792


Thank you!

Romaine
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[Wikimedia-l] Celebrating Wikimania 2018 online

2018-07-23 Thread Romaine Wiki
 The official part of Wikimania is over, this does not prevent ourselves
from celebrating Africa's first Wikimania online, in more particular:
writing Wikipedia articles.

Africa is under represented in Wikipedia, by writing about it we both
celebrate our great conference as well as we work on solving the Africagap

With some Dutchies we started the idea of having a list of like 10-20
articles of subjects from Cape Town and surrounding area. For example:


Well-known park in Cape Town:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Company%27s_Garden

The often referred to Dassie:
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q323847

Input needed!

Romaine
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Gendergap approach causing problems

2018-05-14 Thread Romaine Wiki
Was it the first time I noticed this subject in the Wikimedia movement, no.
It happens too many times that people get frustrated because the gender,
color of their skin or native background is the key reason to ask someone,
instead of the qualities that this person has.

There are two main reasons why I do not go into further detail:
1. the privacy of this individual is something I can't ignore
2. My previous email gives an example in a generic topic, and the topic is
not about an individual case.

Also is zooming in on an individual case not a solution, as we need to be
aware as movement how we are perceived by others.

I disagree that it is related to the attitude of an individual. The way how
someone will respond to it is depending on the attitude yes. But I think
that being asked for something just because of the colour of your face is
degrading you from being a person with various qualities and/or the work
you do. The possible demotivation is the result, but the core is in the
approach itself.

But yes, it is a difficult topic. But in this case it is much harder for
that individual who (temporarily?) gave up on editing/contributing.


I think it comes to inclusiveness, being able to include anyone independent
from how a face looks like. being inclusive to anyone, so that all the
knowledge of the world can be collected.
What we should not do is trying to be inclusive by being exclusive. We
should be making it possible for anyone to have a safe and pleasant space
and in that way bridge the gaps, instead of just trying to ask specific
people to come for the colour of their skin, etc. As said, that last thing
is creating gaps instead of closing them.

Romaine



2018-05-07 8:03 GMT+02:00 Amir E. Aharoni <amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il>:

> This is a sensitive topic, and I'm a white man myself, so please slap me if
> I say something dumb.
>
> 2018-05-07 7:10 GMT+03:00 Romaine Wiki <romaine.w...@gmail.com>:
>
> >
> > What has happened?
> >
> > She was invited to participate in a Wikimedia activity, because:
> > 1. she is a woman
> > 2. she is from a minority
> > 3. she is from an area in the world with much less editors (compared to
> > Europe/US)
> >
> > and perhaps also because her colour of her skin is a bit different then
> > mine (Caucasian).
> >
> > At the same time she has the impression that the work she does on the
> > Wikimedia wiki('s) is not valued, nor taken into account.
> >
>
> By whom?
>
> By the people who invited her?
>
> By other participants in the event?
>
> By other editors in the same wiki site?
>
> By the readers?
>
>
>
> > She does not want to be invited because she is a woman, nor because she
> is
> > from a minority, nor ... etc. This is offensive.
> > She only wants to be invited because of the work she contributes on
> > Wikipedia/etc.
> >
>
> This makes a lot of sense to me, but that's just me and attitudes are
> different for each person.
>
>
> > Besides the many good initiatives and intentions, this kind of approaches
> > to our contributors is demotivating them, please be aware of this.
>
>
> Again, it's probably demotivating to some. Maybe to 98%, maybe to 30%,
> maybe to 5%. I honestly don't know.
>
> I believe demotivation/frustration is the largest problem we face as
> > movement.
> >
>
> I don't know if its the biggest problem. On this mailing list we are a
> small group of meta-active Wikimedians, and we are the minority among
> editors. We don't actually represent all the editors. And of course the
> editors are a tiny minority compared to the readers.
>
> I'd argue that the hard time that some editors are giving newcomers is a
> bigger problem. Gender is certainly a part of that, and there are many
> other parts.
>
> We meta-wikimedians can find a better way to invite people to events, and
> we can change ourselves. That doesn't sound too hard. Changing the wider
> editor culture is harder.
>
> I heard from people that the problem described is called tokenism
> > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tokenism>.
> >
>
> Yes, that's when representation is given to a weakened group, but that
> representation is too weak to be meaningful, and may do more harm than
> good.
>
>
> > I believe the only way to close the gaps related to gender, minorities,
> > etc, is to create an atmosphere in what everyone is appreciated for what
> > she/he is doing, completely unrelated to the gender someone appears to
> > have, the ethnicity, race, area of the world, etc etc etc etc.
> >
>
> So that's where it gets really complicated, because it's always related, in
> ways that are sometimes visible and sometimes invisible.
>
&

[Wikimedia-l] Gendergap approach causing problems

2018-05-06 Thread Romaine Wiki
Hi all,

On Wikipedia and in our movement we are aware of the gendergap that exists
and all kinds of activities are organised to make the gap smaller. I think
this is great as no single gap should exist in collecting all the knowledge
in the world, as well as our movement should be diverse as the world's
population is diverse.

The statistics are clear on this matter, this is something to take care of.
However, a part of the approach is causing problems, because general
statistics should not be applied on individuals as that reduces humans to
numbers only.

The reason why I bring this up is because I recently received an e-mail
from a user in the Wikimedia movement who has (temporarily?) stopped
contributing as she is not happy with a specific aspect of the atmosphere
in Wikimedia.

She does not speak out at loud, but I think we must be aware as movement of
the silent cry, therefore this e-mail to bring awareness (but with respect
for the privacy of this individual).


What has happened?

She was invited to participate in a Wikimedia activity, because:
1. she is a woman
2. she is from a minority
3. she is from an area in the world with much less editors (compared to
Europe/US)

and perhaps also because her colour of her skin is a bit different then
mine (Caucasian).

At the same time she has the impression that the work she does on the
Wikimedia wiki('s) is not valued, nor taken into account.

She does not want to be invited because she is a woman, nor because she is
from a minority, nor ... etc. This is offensive.
She only wants to be invited because of the work she contributes on
Wikipedia/etc.



Besides the many good initiatives and intentions, this kind of approaches
to our contributors is demotivating them, please be aware of this. I
believe demotivation/frustration is the largest problem we face as movement.


I heard from people that the problem described is called tokenism
.


I believe the only way to close the gaps related to gender, minorities,
etc, is to create an atmosphere in what everyone is appreciated for what
she/he is doing, completely unrelated to the gender someone appears to
have, the ethnicity, race, area of the world, etc etc etc etc.

Thank you!

Romaine
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[Wikimedia-l] How do you translate "Wiki Loves Love" into your language?

2018-04-28 Thread Romaine Wiki
Hi all!

A group of users started with the organisation of the photo contest Wiki
Loves Love.

See for info at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiki_Loves_Love


What we like to know from you: how do you translate "Wiki Loves Love" into
your language?

Please add it to: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q52286144

Thanks!

Romaine
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Does anyone know what wikimedia france are up to with the Request Network ?

2018-04-27 Thread Romaine Wiki
We in Belgium received a mail with a question if we want to work together
with a blockchain organisation. For us to develop that it is too much work,
and we suggested them to contact WMF to develop a system we could easily
adopt ourselves.

It can be interesting to use blockchain technology in our movement for
transparency purposes.

Romaine


Op vrijdag 27 april 2018 heeft Victoria Coleman 
het volgende geschreven:

> Yes, the platform claim is far from accurate.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Victoria
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Apr 27, 2018, at 7:27 AM, James Heilman  wrote:
> >
> > While the WMF accepts bitcoin this claim is definitely concerning
> >
> > "the Wikimedia Foundation reinforces its leading status by widely
> > integrating blockchain technology on its platform"
> >
> > Have cc'ed Chuck from legal regarding potential trademark issues.
> >
> > James
> >
> > On Fri, Apr 27, 2018 at 8:23 AM, Devouard (gmail) 
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Definitly confusing.
> >>
> >> See also this : https://blog.request.network/r
> >> equest-network-project-update-april-27th-2018-partnership-
> >> with-wikimedia-woocommerce-plugin-c598372e9b58
> >>
> >>
> >> Florence
> >>
> >>> Le 27/04/2018 à 15:49, geni a écrit :
> >>>
> >>> According to their twitter feed they have announced a partnership with
> >>> something called the "Request Network‏" for cryptocurrency donations.
> >>> Also this article here
> >>>
> >>> https://www.wikimedia.fr/2018/04/27/wikimedia-france-annonce
> >>> -partenariat-fondation-request-network-accepter-donations-
> >>> crypto-monnaies/
> >>>
> >>> Ok. I don't approve but I'm not french so not its not an area where I
> >>> can reasonably expect anyone to pay any attention to my opinions.
> >>>
> >>> What concerns me is that they have retweeted something claiming the
> >>> partnership is with the wikimedia foundation rather than just
> >>> wikimedia france:
> >>>
> >>> https://twitter.com/wikimedia_fr?lang=en
> >>>
> >>> Is some form of clarification possible?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] How to recognise a Wikipedian

2018-04-23 Thread Romaine Wiki
Hi Yaroslav,

To answer your question: no, you can't conclude with a high degree
certainty that that person is a Wikimedian, because it is the same as: if
person X lives in Berlin, X is an inhabitant of Berlin, and X is also an
inhabitant of Germany.
By editing Wikipedia, you are a Wikipedian, and (as all dogs are mammals)
also a Wikimedian.

But if you see someone editing Wikipedia during breakfast, why are you
still asking yourself if it is a Wikimedian? I would advice anyone to have
confidence in your own observation abilities (and not denying things you
have established).
When people have confidence in themselves, they can achieve more, more
happy, but also more Wikipedia articles, and here more people to talk to
and share your great experiences and time spending with.

Romaine






2018-04-23 17:06 GMT+02:00 Yaroslav Blanter <ymb...@gmail.com>:

> Well, if the person edits Wikipedia during the breakfast in the hotel,
> should not we conclude with a high degree of certainty that the person is a
> Wikimedian?
>
> Cheers
> Yaroslav
>
> On Mon, Apr 23, 2018 at 2:17 PM, Romaine Wiki <romaine.w...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > During the past Wikimedia Conference and the preceding days, a lot of
> > Wikimedians came together and many of them did not know anyone and where
> > wondering who in the hotel also is a Wikipedian/Wikimedian.
> >
> > To make it easier for users, a page has been published to help them:
> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/How_to_recognise_a_Wikipedian
> >
> > The page describes what you can look for with the subsequent levels for a
> > higher level of recognisability.
> >
> > Hopefully this page makes it easier to recognise other people you share
> the
> > same passion with.
> >
> > Thanks all for the conference, see you soon again!
> >
> > Romaine
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[Wikimedia-l] How to recognise a Wikipedian

2018-04-23 Thread Romaine Wiki
Hi all,

During the past Wikimedia Conference and the preceding days, a lot of
Wikimedians came together and many of them did not know anyone and where
wondering who in the hotel also is a Wikipedian/Wikimedian.

To make it easier for users, a page has been published to help them:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/How_to_recognise_a_Wikipedian

The page describes what you can look for with the subsequent levels for a
higher level of recognisability.

Hopefully this page makes it easier to recognise other people you share the
same passion with.

Thanks all for the conference, see you soon again!

Romaine
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[Wikimedia-l] New board for Wikimedia Belgium

2018-04-14 Thread Romaine Wiki
Hello all,

During the past day on 14 April 2018, Wikimedia Belgium
 had its annual General Assembly.

One board member leaves (due time constraints):
* Loraine Furter  (Lfurter) - our board member dedicated to Gender and
Diversity aspects in Wikimedia projects

We thank her for all her work and valuable input in the past years!


Two board members come in:
* Lionel Scheepmans - long term Wikipedia and Wikiversity editor and
organiser of activities

* AnneJea - long term Wikipedia editor and organiser of activities

Welcome Lionel & AnneJea!


The rest of the board remains the same and the board continues the work and
development of our chapter.

We also have decided one the next steps to come to a solution for the
problems with one of the other organisations in the movement, which we hope
to be able to resolve together.


Kind regards,

Romaine
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[Wikimedia-l] Yearly prize (WikiUilen) of Dutch Wikipedia awarded to most valued contributions of 2017

2018-01-20 Thread Romaine Wiki
Dear all,

On the Dutch Wikipedia it has become a tradition to award each year the
most valued contributions of users and projects and give them extra
appreciation in the form of a prize. The prize is inspired on the similar
one of the German language Wikipedia.

Today during the new year's event of Wikimedia Nederland in Utrecht, the
yearly WikiUilen have been awarded to the most valued contributions to the
Dutch Wikipedia in 2017.


In six categories, the community nominated and voted which projects were
especially valued. All valuable contributions are welcome on Wikipedia, but
today the most valued ones received their prize.

See for the result here:
https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiUilen/2017
View the photos here:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:WikiUilen_ceremony_2017,_20_January_2018


For the organising committee WikiUilen Academie,
Romaine
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Banners for logged-in users (was:How can we fix the two-stage page loading problem?)

2017-09-12 Thread Romaine Wiki
I am sorry to say but I am constantly logged in and do see fundraising
banners every year.

Each time when it was announced fundraising banners would come, I have seen
them logged in, in multiple countries.

Romaine


Op dinsdag 5 september 2017 heeft Joseph Seddon  het
volgende geschreven:

> Hey Strainu,
>
> You are probably right in that you saw a banner but regarding specifically
> fundraising banners, I am 100% certain that the WMF does not and has not
> for some years actively shown banners to users who are logged in. The
> caveat with that is this does not preclude any possibility of human error
> or a software bug. I'm not aware of any specific occasion where this has
> occurred in the last two years but with a piece of software that serves
> billions of page views, across 20-30 countries and some probably some 3000
> banner tests during that period, probabilities that something hadn't gone
> wrong start reaching levels of sigma that not even I would attempt to claim
> :P
>
> Regards
>
> Seddon
>
> On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 1:38 PM, Strainu  > wrote:
>
> > Changing subject, the other thread is about something totally different.
> >
> > 2017-09-05 14:38 GMT+03:00 Joseph Seddon  >:
> > > WMF hasn't shown fundraising banners to logged in users for several
> > years.
> >
> > While I wouldn't bet my life on it, I'm pretty sure I saw banners on
> > mobile just last month, while being logged in.
> >
> > Strainu
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Regards
> > > Seddon
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 5 Sep 2017 08:33, "Lodewijk"  > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hey Ori,
> > >>
> > >> I like the creative thinking :) For the fundraising that could indeed
> > work
> > >> well (although I have no numbers on what percentage of domations comes
> > from
> > >> logged in users etc), but there are also campaigns tht are quite
> > relevant
> > >> for logged in users.
> > >>
> > >> Lodewijk
> > >>
> > >> On Sun, Sep 3, 2017 at 7:16 PM, Ori Livneh  >
> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > On Sep 3, 2017 13:02, "David Gerard"  > wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > On 2 September 2017 at 02:09, Michael Peel  >
> > wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > > This is possibly the most annoying feature of the Wikimedia
> > projects at
> > >> > the moment. You access a page. Then you start reading or editing it.
> > And
> > >> > then suddenly the page jumps when a fundraising banner / central
> > notice /
> > >> > gadget / beta feature loads. So you have to start reading the page
> > again,
> > >> > or you have to find where you were editing again, or you have to
> undo
> > the
> > >> > change you just made since you made it in the wrong part of the
> page.
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > Or you click "edit" and it hits the banner that suddenly popped up
> > >> > under your click. 
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > One possible solution would be to exempt anyone who edits an article
> > from
> > >> > being shown a banner by means of a cookie with a suitable expiry.
> > Since
> > >> > only a tiny fraction of visitors edit, I would expect the impact on
> > the
> > >> > WMF's bottom line to be negligible.
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[Wikimedia-l] Diversity in Wikimedia

2017-09-06 Thread Romaine Wiki
I made a mistake, a very personal mistake. Not realising that I made this
mistake at that time, but ever since I kept an unpleasant feeling about it.
I signed up for attending the Diversity Conference later this year, and
with that there were a lot of personal questions asked on the field of
diversity. I think it is very good to have attention for diversity is my
opinion, as Wikipedia (etc) should cover the whole of the diversity of
mankind in knowledge. I stayed vague in the application about my personal
way of diversity, but even with doing that I disclosed too much of my
personal "diversity" feelings, and that is my mistake. Any more deeper
explaing on this I do not want, that is too personal.

But why do I write about it here? Because in the rejection of the
application I was triggerd by something what concerns me. In the message it
said:
"Many strong applications were submitted [...]"
To me this reeds as that if someone does not want to open up their feelings
regarding personal diversity, while trying to influence the movement with
more diversity, this can't ever lead to a strong application.

In this world there are many people that express themselves strongly in
their diversity, but that is only half of the people with the diversity.
The other half keeps it indoors, mostly hidden for the outside world of
anonymous people.

It can be a choice of organisers to select only those applications that
have a strong story in the field of diversity (like for example because WMF
funds only a meager conference). But then I think half of the diversity is
missing. That is my concern.

In many conferences it is natural that if someone has a strong application,
that person gets granted to come to the conference. With a Diversity
Conference I think it should work the other way round: the stronger the
story, and thus the stronger the application, the less it is needed to
attend. The weaker the application, as result of a weaker story, the more
that person can benefit from a conference on Diversity. I think we should
be aware of this, otherwise we miss the big gaps in diversity, big gaps
that are not addressed, aren't seen.


To say it otherwise:
What are the topics in Wikipedia with the loudest form of expression in the
world? football, disasters, politics, religion, ...
What are the topics with the softest form of expression in the world? ...
I think those are not in Wikipedia.


Romaine
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[Wikimedia-l] Help requested for finding certain subjects in your local Wikipedia

2017-08-01 Thread Romaine Wiki
Hi all,

In the Dutch part of Belgium there exists a performing arts database, and
they are donating parts of it to Wikidata. Over the past century they have
collected the theatre venues and festivals where a Flemish theatre group
had its première. For many locations I already found an article in
Wikipedia or an item in Wikidata, for some not yet. For those of which no
article nor item could be found, I need your help!

Please help me identify which venues and festivals from your country listed
on this page have in your Wikipedia already an article?
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:Romaine/Kunstenpunt_venues
You can edit the page!

The countries of what I have at least one or more locations are:

Argentina
Australia
Austria
Belarus
Brazil
Canada
Chile
China
Congo-Kinshasa
Croatia
Cyprus
Czech Republic
Denmark
Egypt
Estonia
Finland
France
Germany
Greece
Hong Kong
Iceland
Iran
Ireland
Israel
Italy
Japan
Latvia
Liechtenstein
Lithuania
Luxembourg
Macedonia
Morocco
Netherlands
Norway
Philippines
Poland
Portugal
Romania
Russia
Slovakia
Slovenia
South Africa
South Korea
Spain
Switzerland
Taiwan
Turkey
UK
USA
Vietnam

Thanks!
Romaine
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[Wikimedia-l] Photo contest Wiki Loves Public Space started in Belgium

2017-06-30 Thread Romaine Wiki
Hi all,

Today at 1 July the photo contest Wiki Loves Public Space started in
Belgium. This year is the first year in what we have during the full
Summer freedom
of panorama  in Belgium (
info ), which means that
modern buildings and artworks in the public space can be photographed and
freely be published. For years it was not possible to illustrate articles
with photos of modern buildings and artworks in the public space due the
limitations of the Belgian copyright law. To celebrate this freedom and to
compensate the many years of not being allowed to upload photos of these
Belgian subjects (and thus bare articles), we organise this photo contest.

During the Summer months July and August 2017 you can participate by
uploading your photos from modern buildings, public artworks, heritage
monuments and memorials, present in the public space in Belgium. Also
photos you made earlier are welcome!

See for more information about how to participate at:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Public_Space_2017_in_Belgium

This photo contest is supported by Wikimedia Belgium
.

Romaine
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[Wikimedia-l] Wikisource type of site for sheet music at kickstarter

2017-06-22 Thread Romaine Wiki
Hi all,

I came across the following Kickstarter project about sheet music. The
project aims for making public domain sheet musuc available and keeping
them open. The project is a sort of Wikisource, but then for sheet music,
and I think as Wikimedia movement we should support this somehow.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/openscore/openscore-join-the-sheet-music-revolution

Seeing this project I realise that with Wikimedia platforms we provide all
kinds of knowledge, but sheet music is too limited possible in Wikimedia
yet.

Romaine
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Launch of translation drive #16WikiWomen

2017-02-20 Thread Romaine Wiki
Why using a category?

Categories are especially useful for navigation purposes or maintenance. A
category here seems useless.

The only categories that are useful are the ones for categorising women in
various ways like profession, country, etc. I hope that kind of categories
can be filled with many articles about women in Africa.

Romaine

2017-02-20 22:11 GMT+01:00 Olatunde Isaac :

> Hi Flo,
>
> I am curious, is there a category we could place articles translated as
> part of 16 WikiWomen?
>
> Best,
>
> Isaac.
> Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld from Glo Mobile.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Florence Devouard 
> Sender: "Wikimedia-l" 
> Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2017 11:10:52
> To: 
> Reply-To: Wikimedia Mailing List 
> Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Launch of translation drive #16WikiWomen
>
> In the run up to International Women’s Day on the 8th March, Wiki Loves
> Women is launching the on-Wikipedia translation drive #16WikiWomen.
>
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/16_African_Women_Translate-a-thon
>
> The idea is for Wikipedians to take 16 days to make translate the
> Wikipedia biographies on 16 notable African women, into at least 16
> languages (African or international languages).
>
> The articles to be translated will be the biographies of African women.
> The list of language can be, but is not limited to:
> * International languages: Arabic, English, French, Spanish, Portuguese,
> Mandarin, German
> * African languages: Akan, Afrikaans, Igbo, Hausa, Wolof, Tswana, Zulu,
> Xhosa, Shona, Swahili, Yoruba, Sudanese, Amharic, Tsonga, Ewe, Sesotho,
> Chichewa
>
> The list of the 16 women biographies that will be translated are:
> * Malouma, a Mauritanian singer, songwriter and politician
> * Nozizwe Madlala-Routledge, a South African politician. The best
> initial version was in French
> * Cri-Zelda Brits, a South African cricketer
> * Anna Tibaijuka, a Tanzanian politician and former
> under-secretary-general of the United Nations
> * Funmilayo Ransome-Kuti, a Nigerian women’s rights activist
> * Flora Nwapa, a Nigerian author who writes predominantly in Igbo
> * Samia Yusuf Omar, Sprinter from Somalia
> * Maggie Laubser, a South African painter
> * Fatima Massaquoi, a pioneering educator from Liberia
> * Frances Ames, a South African neurologist, psychiatrist, and human
> rights activist
> * Asmaa Mahfouz, a Egyptian activist. The best version is currently in
> Arabic
> * Yaa Asantewaa, the legendary former Queen Mother of Ghana
> * Fatou Bensouda, a Gambian lawyer
> * Martha Karua, a Kenyan politician
> * Chinwendu Ihezuo, a Nigerian professional footballer
> * Nassima Saifi, a Paralympian athlete from Algeria
>
> Please jump in ! And help relay this message accross communities !
>
>
> If you wish to participate, please feel free to add your name and any
> comments here :
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/16_African_Women_
> Translate-a-thon/participants
>
> Results will be tracked on this page :
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/16_African_Women_Translate-a-thon/tracking
>
>
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Moderation notice

2017-02-13 Thread Romaine Wiki
Calling that anyone who does not want a banner = someone who does not care
for our colleagues, is very very disrespectful.

That is way beyond the line of what can be accepted.

Romaine


Op maandag 13 februari 2017 heeft Jane Darnell  het
volgende geschreven:

> When I first read this I didn't think twice about it, because Gerard has
> often gone over the 30 message limit, so nothing new. But after reading
> later comments I see that he was disrespectful? I don't think so. I checked
> and indeed he didn't go over his limit in January. The only disrespectful
> thing I could find in his recent edits was his remark that he is not a
> collaborator because his cultural heritage assumes "collaborators" are
> "nazis", which is offensive in English. I would like to point out here that
> the word collaborator really does mean nazi in Dutch. It's one of many
> translation challenges, so there is even a Wikipedia article that spells it
> all out:
> https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collaboratie
> It's little things like this that make adding English-language Tech news to
> the Dutch Village pump a bit controversial btw.
>
> On Sat, Feb 11, 2017 at 7:49 PM, Asaf Bartov  > wrote:
>
> > Hello, everyone.
> >
> > I share the opinion that moderation actions should be transparent. So:
> >
> > I have now placed Gerard Meijssen on moderation.  He has been posting
> very
> > frequently to the list, far exceeding the requested "soft limit" of 30
> > posts per month, and has exhibited disrespectful discourse.
> >
> > I encourage Gerard to revise his approach to communicating on this list.
> > He will be unmoderated next month.
> >
> >A.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] banner proposals

2017-02-11 Thread Romaine Wiki
> because it has proven that we do not care about our own.

Besides this is complete nonsense, that the discussion goes in this way it
proofs we fail in being able to have a mature discussion on arguments and
not emotions.

And claiming this kind of nonsense like "we do not care about our own"
shows a complete disrespect to those who have a different opinion.

This kind of messages are the core of the problem: writing claims that are
not supported by any evidence. Conclusion: it are fake claims, strongly
related to the *fake news* subject of the past weeks. The thing that is
proven is that some people in our movement spread fake information.

And for clarity reasons: a friend of mine is affected. If I consider a
banner is not suitable, would that make me then not caring? Totally not.


2017-02-07 8:01 GMT+01:00 Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijs...@gmail.com>:

> Hoi,
> Credibility like quality is a two edged sword. When the suggestion is that
> we lose credibility, the question is to whom and also is that not exactly
> the point. When we take a stance or when we do not take a stance it has
> consequences.
>
> The huha with no banner for Bassel has cost our community because it has
> proven that we do not care about our own.
> Thanks,
>   GerardM
>
> On 7 February 2017 at 00:37, Romaine Wiki <romaine.w...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > To stay short and in addition of Seddon said: The more the Wikimedia
> > movement/WMF chooses to pick a side by using a banner above all projects
> > (like Wikipedia) - calling yes/no for a strike is taking a side - the
> more
> > it can loose credibility. For the same reason as we do not want
> > advertisements, we do not want to take any sides, because that can
> directly
> > damage Wikipedia as being neutral, as well as being independent, and
> more.
> > Therefore banners for advocacy are not done.
> >
> > The only exception of having advocacy banners is in some exceptional
> cases
> > where all other efforts where insufficient, and the specific legislation
> > would have with implementation a direct influence on the key principles
> of
> > Wikipedia (or other Wikimedia project). Even in such cases there need to
> be
> > a local team that is completely informed about the situation, that is in
> > direct communication with the legal department of WMF, with a common
> > understanding between them, with a clear timeline, community approval (!)
> > and even then we need to be as neutral as possible, not calling for
> action
> > but informing why something would directly influence Wikipedia (etc).
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 2017-02-05 21:29 GMT+01:00 Bill Takatoshi <billtakato...@gmail.com>:
> >
> > > In the past two days I've been four off-list messages in response to
> > > my request for proposed banner language, all but one from James
> > > Salsman, who I recently defended here and who was subsequently "placed
> > > on moderation." I asked moderator Richard Ames whether it would be
> > > appropriate to forward his messages, and he said they should be sent
> > > to the moderation queue. James then sent me a BCC of a very brief post
> > > yesterday, which apparently has not yet been approved. James then sent
> > > me, but not the list, arguments about the merits of the various
> > > alternatives. I don't agree with the censorship, but in deference to
> > > the moderator I am sending these links without James's commentary:
> > >
> > > http://i.imgur.com/3Fb8Zrr.png
> > >
> > > http://www.cosmopolitan.com/politics/a8671628/national-
> > > strike-protest-president-donald-trump/
> > >
> > > https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/5s6ay6/
> activists_call_for_a_
> > > nationwide_strike_in_protest/ddctj1h/
> > >
> > > https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2017/01/
> > > 31/wheres-the-best-place-to-resist-trump-at-work/
> > >
> > > https://www.thenation.com/article/throw-sand-in-the-
> gears-of-everything/
> > >
> > > Another respondent who asked that I not use their name suggested that
> > > an effective campaign can be patterned after this recent success:
> > >
> > > http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/progressive-
> > > activism-forces-uber-ceo-break-trump
> > >
> > > Could we please have banner text proposals do NOT call for a general
> > > strike? I am not suggesting it be ruled out, nor am I suggesting that
> > > we not join the call. I am simply asking for discussion in the middle
> > > ground.
> > >
> > > -Wi

Re: [Wikimedia-l] banner proposals

2017-02-06 Thread Romaine Wiki
To stay short and in addition of Seddon said: The more the Wikimedia
movement/WMF chooses to pick a side by using a banner above all projects
(like Wikipedia) - calling yes/no for a strike is taking a side - the more
it can loose credibility. For the same reason as we do not want
advertisements, we do not want to take any sides, because that can directly
damage Wikipedia as being neutral, as well as being independent, and more.
Therefore banners for advocacy are not done.

The only exception of having advocacy banners is in some exceptional cases
where all other efforts where insufficient, and the specific legislation
would have with implementation a direct influence on the key principles of
Wikipedia (or other Wikimedia project). Even in such cases there need to be
a local team that is completely informed about the situation, that is in
direct communication with the legal department of WMF, with a common
understanding between them, with a clear timeline, community approval (!)
and even then we need to be as neutral as possible, not calling for action
but informing why something would directly influence Wikipedia (etc).




2017-02-05 21:29 GMT+01:00 Bill Takatoshi :

> In the past two days I've been four off-list messages in response to
> my request for proposed banner language, all but one from James
> Salsman, who I recently defended here and who was subsequently "placed
> on moderation." I asked moderator Richard Ames whether it would be
> appropriate to forward his messages, and he said they should be sent
> to the moderation queue. James then sent me a BCC of a very brief post
> yesterday, which apparently has not yet been approved. James then sent
> me, but not the list, arguments about the merits of the various
> alternatives. I don't agree with the censorship, but in deference to
> the moderator I am sending these links without James's commentary:
>
> http://i.imgur.com/3Fb8Zrr.png
>
> http://www.cosmopolitan.com/politics/a8671628/national-
> strike-protest-president-donald-trump/
>
> https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/5s6ay6/activists_call_for_a_
> nationwide_strike_in_protest/ddctj1h/
>
> https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2017/01/
> 31/wheres-the-best-place-to-resist-trump-at-work/
>
> https://www.thenation.com/article/throw-sand-in-the-gears-of-everything/
>
> Another respondent who asked that I not use their name suggested that
> an effective campaign can be patterned after this recent success:
>
> http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/progressive-
> activism-forces-uber-ceo-break-trump
>
> Could we please have banner text proposals do NOT call for a general
> strike? I am not suggesting it be ruled out, nor am I suggesting that
> we not join the call. I am simply asking for discussion in the middle
> ground.
>
> -Will
>
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[Wikimedia-l] General Assembly: board + annual reports

2017-01-28 Thread Romaine Wiki
Dear all,

Today Wikimedia Belgium had the annual General Assembly
.

At 1 January 2017 the board had five board members. Every board member is
elected for a two years term, besides the president who is elected every
year. From these five board members, the two year term of two of them ended
(Romaine + Afernand74), as well as the term of the president ended
(Geertivp).

With no new applications for board members and the General Assembly and
board happy with how the past period has been dealt and how stable the
board has become, the General Assembly voted to give the three board
members a new term. Meaning that the board stays the same and as stable
team can move forward with our chapter.

The board is composed out of Geertivp (president), Romaine (treasurer),
SPQRobin (secretary), Afernand74 (National Liaison) and Lfurter (Gender and
Diversity Liaison).
See also: https://be.wikimedia.org/wiki/Board


Before the voting, the reporting from the past year was discussed, and the
board has been cleared responsibility.

The financial report from Wikimedia Belgium about 2016 can be found at:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_chapters/Reports/
Wikimedia_Belgium/Financial/2016

The activity report from Wikimedia Belgium about 2016 can be found at:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_chapters/Reports/
Wikimedia_Belgium/Activity/2016


Kind regards,
Romaine
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Concerns in general

2017-01-28 Thread Romaine Wiki
On every continent there are likely risks and we should be aware of them.

Copyrights issues are also something to look out for.

In the Netherlands the telecom enforcement agency is pretty strict and
active in enforcing net neutrality.

But yes, risks are spread over the world.

Where the servers are located I do not mind that much, but spread around
the world seems to be required to spread the risk.

Romaine


Op zaterdag 28 januari 2017 heeft Vi to <vituzzu.w...@gmail.com> het
volgende geschreven:

> Actually some parties might bring EU to low standards of freedom of
> expression.
> For what concerns Wikimedia, I fear more lobbying about copyright related
> legislation or about net neutrality than USA turning into a dictatorship.
> I'm not afraid of a complete service disruption but instead of things
> getting more and more complicate in a globalized World being broken up. We
> rely upon a level of freedom to move people and data (mainly among the two
> shorelines of the Atlantic ocean) which has no precedents in human history.
> Offline backups -to renew on yearly basis- are not so expensive to be
> physically sent to chapters, or at least a certain number of chapters
> meeting some requirements (e.g. a physical location, some IT, etc.). It
> would instead be *hard* to rebuild an infrastructure almost from the
> scratch.
> What puzzles me is our ability to nullify impact of end of USA safe harbor
> or (possible) or, for example, Netherlands ceasing net neutrality
> (currently almost impossible) or similar kind of changes in any Country,
> which doesn't imply dictatorship but still will have a significantly impact
> over our operations.
>
> Vito
>
> 2017-01-28 13:07 GMT+01:00 Romaine Wiki <romaine.w...@gmail.com
> <javascript:;>>:
>
> > Hi Nathan,
> >
> > You describe what I tried to say: threats to the environment in what
> > Wikimedia operates.
> >
> > In the Netherlands there has been a government based on populism (with
> > Geert Wilders) but the effects were very limited. The same in other EU
> > countries. Political parties and political leaders in Europe are aware of
> > the world wars that took place and are not out of the minds, so extremes
> > are much less extreme. Even in comparison with the US now less extreme.
> >
> > Like the archives of Alexandria got lost due being stored in one place,
> let
> > us not make that mistake again. Whatever the cause of troubles is,
> nature,
> > humans, fire, etc.
> >
> > To me the most safe option would be to have a back up at every continent,
> > thus the risks are spread.
> >
> > Romaine
> >
> > Op zaterdag 28 januari 2017 heeft Nathan <nawr...@gmail.com
> <javascript:;>> het volgende
> > geschreven:
> >
> > > Romaine makes some good points. There is a legitimate concern that the
> > turn
> > > to populism and unpredictability threatens the environment in which
> > > Wikimedia operates, and its only reasonable to consider a move of core
> > > assets somewhere safer from the unspooling of Western social fabric.
> > > Perhaps the Netherlands is a good alternative, although Geert Wilders
> is
> > > quite popular there... The United Kingdom, perhaps? Yet with Brexit and
> > > UKIP, one wonders how safe Wikimedia would be there. Perhaps France, if
> > not
> > > for Marine Le Pen... This is more challenging than I expected. Where
> will
> > > we find some place that is protected from the pernicious threats that
> > beset
> > > the Wikimedia Foundation in the United States?
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 10:33 PM, Romaine Wiki <romaine.w...@gmail.com
> <javascript:;>
> > > <javascript:;>>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Today I was reading in the (international) news about websites with
> > > > knowledge on the topic of climate change disappear from the internet
> as
> > > > result of the Trump administration. The second thing I read is that
> > > before
> > > > something can be published about this topic, the government needs to
> > > > approve this.
> > > >
> > > > Do you realise what the right word for this is? censorship.
> > > > Even if it is only partially.
> > > >
> > > > Luckily there are many scientists working on getting all the data
> > abroad,
> > > > out of the US to ensure the research data is saved, including on
> > servers
> > > in
> > > > the Netherlands where Trump (hopefully) has no reach.
> > > >
> > > > In the past we

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Concerns in general

2017-01-28 Thread Romaine Wiki
Hi Nathan,

You describe what I tried to say: threats to the environment in what
Wikimedia operates.

In the Netherlands there has been a government based on populism (with
Geert Wilders) but the effects were very limited. The same in other EU
countries. Political parties and political leaders in Europe are aware of
the world wars that took place and are not out of the minds, so extremes
are much less extreme. Even in comparison with the US now less extreme.

Like the archives of Alexandria got lost due being stored in one place, let
us not make that mistake again. Whatever the cause of troubles is, nature,
humans, fire, etc.

To me the most safe option would be to have a back up at every continent,
thus the risks are spread.

Romaine

Op zaterdag 28 januari 2017 heeft Nathan <nawr...@gmail.com> het volgende
geschreven:

> Romaine makes some good points. There is a legitimate concern that the turn
> to populism and unpredictability threatens the environment in which
> Wikimedia operates, and its only reasonable to consider a move of core
> assets somewhere safer from the unspooling of Western social fabric.
> Perhaps the Netherlands is a good alternative, although Geert Wilders is
> quite popular there... The United Kingdom, perhaps? Yet with Brexit and
> UKIP, one wonders how safe Wikimedia would be there. Perhaps France, if not
> for Marine Le Pen... This is more challenging than I expected. Where will
> we find some place that is protected from the pernicious threats that beset
> the Wikimedia Foundation in the United States?
>
> On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 10:33 PM, Romaine Wiki <romaine.w...@gmail.com
> <javascript:;>>
> wrote:
>
> > Today I was reading in the (international) news about websites with
> > knowledge on the topic of climate change disappear from the internet as
> > result of the Trump administration. The second thing I read is that
> before
> > something can be published about this topic, the government needs to
> > approve this.
> >
> > Do you realise what the right word for this is? censorship.
> > Even if it is only partially.
> >
> > Luckily there are many scientists working on getting all the data abroad,
> > out of the US to ensure the research data is saved, including on servers
> in
> > the Netherlands where Trump (hopefully) has no reach.
> >
> > In the past week I was reading about the Internet Archive organisation,
> who
> > is making a back up in Canada because of the Trump administration. I did
> > not understood this, you may call me naive, but now I do understand,
> > apparently they have some visionary people at the Internet Archive.
> >
> > I miss a good answer to this situation from the Wikimedia Foundation.
> >
> > Trump is now promoting harassment and disrespect, already for some time,
> >
> > What signal is given to the rest of the world if an America based
> > organisation is spreading the thought of a harassment free Wikipedia and
> > the free word, while the president of the US is promoting harassment,
> > disrespect and censorship on a massive scale.
> >
> > This is just the first week of this president!
> >
> > I am 100% sure everyone in the Wikimedia movement is willing to make sure
> > Wikimedia faces no damage whatsoever, including in WMF, but to me this
> > still starts to get concerning.
> >
> > If we as Wikimedia movement think that free knowledge, free speech,
> freedom
> > of information, etc are important, I would think that the location where
> > the organisation is based is that country where liberty is the largest, I
> > do not know where this is but it is definitely not the US.
> >
> > To my impression WMF is stuck in the US, so I do not believe they would
> > actually move when the danger grows.
> >
> > But I think it is possible to make sure risks are spread over the world.
> > Certainly as we are an international movement that intends to cover the
> > knowledge of the whole humanoid civilisation.
> >
> > To come to a conclusion, I think WMF and the Wikimedia movement should
> > think about a back-up plan if it actually goes wrong.
> >
> >
> > If you do not agree with me: that is perfectly fine, that's your right
> and
> > should be protected.
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> > Romaine
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Concerns in general

2017-01-28 Thread Romaine Wiki
Hi!

Sorry, I had not the intention to write a Wikipedia article that is
balanced.

The only thing I tried to describe is some signals in the media that give
me concerns.

But I am sorry to say, but your reaction is something what I would call
naieve, and biased as well. You are free to think that way, as I think now
otherwise.

At this point in time I do not think full censorship will be implemented in
the US, but I found partially censorship (government) already very
concerning. And it is not just the government but a large number of
institutions that should deliver facts, but are no longer allowed to freely
publish facts. This also includes universities.

Yes, a government is free to determine what policy it chooses, but that
gives no reason to delete everything (read: all data) they do not like.
There is a big difference between chosing something different and ordering
to censor.

Also this will in the end lead to a situation that this will affect
everyone via an indirect route.

Freedom of press already is troubled by attacking media.

I do not say it will happen, but I say we should consider what options we
have if it would go wrong in any form we currently do not expect.

Romaine

Op vrijdag 27 januari 2017 heeft John  het
volgende geschreven:

> I must say the tone of the initial post to this is alarmingly biased and
> almost misleading. Yes the incoming president has placed a hold on
> releasing additional material. By no means does that imply that they will
> start censoring data that they release or in any way affect the private
> sector. Because the incoming president holds a opposite view as the
> predecessor it's not surprising that they would want to audit the releases
> to ensure that the data has a solid factual grounding. I've lost count of
> the number of research studies and papers that I have seen that when
> actually placed under a microscope don't hold up. However often the
> mainstream media takes these and runs with them.
>
> The United States is based on freedom of the press, not freedom of the
> government. there is zero chance that the president will be able to censor
> the private sector.
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[Wikimedia-l] Concerns in general

2017-01-26 Thread Romaine Wiki
Today I was reading in the (international) news about websites with
knowledge on the topic of climate change disappear from the internet as
result of the Trump administration. The second thing I read is that before
something can be published about this topic, the government needs to
approve this.

Do you realise what the right word for this is? censorship.
Even if it is only partially.

Luckily there are many scientists working on getting all the data abroad,
out of the US to ensure the research data is saved, including on servers in
the Netherlands where Trump (hopefully) has no reach.

In the past week I was reading about the Internet Archive organisation, who
is making a back up in Canada because of the Trump administration. I did
not understood this, you may call me naive, but now I do understand,
apparently they have some visionary people at the Internet Archive.

I miss a good answer to this situation from the Wikimedia Foundation.

Trump is now promoting harassment and disrespect, already for some time,

What signal is given to the rest of the world if an America based
organisation is spreading the thought of a harassment free Wikipedia and
the free word, while the president of the US is promoting harassment,
disrespect and censorship on a massive scale.

This is just the first week of this president!

I am 100% sure everyone in the Wikimedia movement is willing to make sure
Wikimedia faces no damage whatsoever, including in WMF, but to me this
still starts to get concerning.

If we as Wikimedia movement think that free knowledge, free speech, freedom
of information, etc are important, I would think that the location where
the organisation is based is that country where liberty is the largest, I
do not know where this is but it is definitely not the US.

To my impression WMF is stuck in the US, so I do not believe they would
actually move when the danger grows.

But I think it is possible to make sure risks are spread over the world.
Certainly as we are an international movement that intends to cover the
knowledge of the whole humanoid civilisation.

To come to a conclusion, I think WMF and the Wikimedia movement should
think about a back-up plan if it actually goes wrong.


If you do not agree with me: that is perfectly fine, that's your right and
should be protected.

Thank you.

Romaine
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[Wikimedia-l] Appreciation shown on Wikipedia

2017-01-22 Thread Romaine Wiki
Hi all,

Past Saturday during the new year's event in Leiden, the Netherlands, the
Dutch Wikipedia community reached the annual prizes for most valued
contributions to this Wikipedia in 2016.

In six categories users and projects were nominated by the community and in
a closed voting they decided which of them should receive the physical
appreciation.

The most valued contributors received a stone statue of an owl, standing
for wisdom.
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:WikiUilen_2016_(2).jpg

See for more photos of the ceremony and statues at:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:WikiUilen_ceremony_2016,_21_January_2017

More information about the special awards can be found at:
https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiUilen

Congratulations to all receivers!

Romaine
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[Wikimedia-l] Writing weeks about Norway start on Wikipedia

2016-12-24 Thread Romaine Wiki
Hi all,

As tradition describes we organise also this year the writing weeks on the
Dutch Wikipedia We invite everyone, starting today in the coming two weeks,
to write about the Kingdom of Norway (including Svalbard, Jan Mayen, Bouvet
Island, Peter I Island, and Queen Maud Land).

More information can be found on:
https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikiproject/Schrijfweek/Noorwegen

We would invite any other community to start a local writing week too!

I wish you all pleasant days to come!

Greetings,
Romaine
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[Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia printed in Gent

2016-10-29 Thread Romaine Wiki
*Nederlands naar onder - français ci-dessous*

Hello all,

In the coming weekend the Dutch Wikipedia will be printed as an art project
in the city of Ghent. The project also has been done in New York and Berlin
with the English and German language Wikipedia. See also the English
article about this project at: Print Wikipedia
.In total exist the
encyclopedia out of 1065 books, including 2 books with the appendix of the
contributors.

   - Location: Zebrastraat 32/001 - 9000 Ghent
   - Date: 5 November 2016
   - Time: 14:00-18:00
   - Entrance: frees
   - Location info: http://www.zebrastraat.be/contact.html
   - Exhibition: http://www.ntaa.be/

Wikimedia Belgium  provides together with
the artist for a snack and drink and anyone interested is welcome.

--

Hallo allen,

Komend weekend wordt de Nederlandstalige Wikipedia uitgeprint als onderdeel
van een kunstproject in Gent. Het project is ook al eens onder andere in
New York en Berlijn gedaan met de Engelstalige en Duitstalige Wikipedia.
Zie eventueel ook het Engelstalige Wikipedia-artikel: Print Wikipedia
. In totaal zal de
encyclopedie uit 1065 boeken bestaan, inclusief 2 boeken met de appendix
van de bijdragers.

   - Locatie: Zebrastraat 32/001 - 9000 Gent
   - Datum: 5 november 2016
   - Tijd: 14:00-18:00
   - Entree: gratis
   - Locatie info: http://www.zebrastraat.be/contact.html
   - Tentoonstelling: http://www.ntaa.be/

Wikimedia België  zorgt samen met de
kunstenaar voor een hapje en een drankje en iedereen is welkom.

Aanmelden is niet verplicht, maar wel handig om een inschatting te kunnen
maken, en kan op: Wikipedia:Ontmoeten#Wikipedia_uitgeprint
.
Wie foto's wil maken is ook van harte welkom! Dit moet natuurlijk goed
gedocumenteerd worden. Tot dan!

--

Salut à tous,

L’encyclopédie d’internet Wikipédia néerlandaise sera imprimée le weekend
prochain à Gand dans le cadre d’un projet d’art. L'impression de la
Wikipédia a également été faite à New York pour l’edition anglaise et à
Berlin pour l’édition allemande. Vous pouvez trouver plus d’information
dans la page Print Wikipedia
.  La Wikipédia imprimée
se composera en total de 1065 livres, dont un annexe de deux livres avec
une liste de contributeurs.

· Lieu de la manifestation: Zebrastraat 32/001 - 9000 Gent

· L’heure: 14:00-18:00 (5 novembre 2016)

· L’entrée est gratuite

· La route: http://www.zebrastraat.be/contact.html

· L’exposition: http://www.ntaa.be/

Wikimedia Belgique  et l'artiste vous invitent
pour des rafraîchissements, vous êtes les bienvenus.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Affiliates] Changes to current chapter and thematic organisation criteria

2016-08-19 Thread Romaine Wiki
The criteria are for those groups who want to apply for an official status
at WMF. In general I think all chapters should try to meet with these
criteria. If a chapter is not able to structurally full-fill these
criteria, a different board is the solution to revive the chapter.

I personally think the criteria are a balanced set of guidelines to be
followed.

It is important for the movement to share the experiences and the results.
Much more should be shared through best practices, how to's, reports and
newsletters, like https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter for
collaborations with various partner organisations.

Romaine

2016-08-19 16:51 GMT+02:00 Lane Rasberry :

> Hello,
>
> Do these criteria apply to existing groups? Maybe I misunderstand, but
> from this proposal it sounds like new groups will be held to significantly
> higher standards than any currently recognized organizations. Is that the
> case?
>
> yours,
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 8:36 AM, Carlos M. Colina 
> wrote:
>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> On behalf of the Affiliations Committee, I would like to present some
>> changes to the current chapter and thematic organisation criteria, which we
>> will begin piloting as we officially reopen applications for chapter and
>> thematic organization status. Until now, the criteria had not clearly
>> defined what constitutes sufficient programmatic activity to justify
>> chapter or thematic organisation status. To address this issue, we have set
>> out three new criteria:
>>
>>1. Diversity of Activities: Chapters and thematic organisations are
>>expected to plan and conduct a variety of different programs and events; 
>> to
>>balance online and offline projects; to strive for continuous activity; 
>> and
>>to conduct programs and events at least once every two months.
>>2. Planning and Evaluation: Chapters and thematic organisations are
>>expected to set specific goals and targets for programs, projects, and
>>events before executing them; to measure the results of programs, 
>> projects,
>>and events against those targets; and to report on those results to the
>>Wikimedia Foundation and the wider Wikimedia movement.
>>3. External Partnerships: Chapters and thematic organisations are
>>expected to engage in programmatic partnerships with external groups and
>>organizations (for example, cultural, academic, or government 
>> institutions,
>>and so on) to promote the Wikimedia movement and to add and improve 
>> content
>>on Wikimedia projects.
>>
>> In order to officially reopen the chapter and thematic organization
>> recognition process, the Board of Trustees has instructed the Affiliations
>> Committee to provisionally use these three new criteria for all new
>> applicants. In addition, potential chapters and thematic organisations will
>> continue to be assessed against the existing legal, governance, and
>> viability criteria; more details, including the benefits and limitations of
>> these affiliation models, are available on Meta.[1] [2]
>>
>> Please note that the use of these three new criteria is a pilot; there
>> will be opportunities to share feedback about the criteria, as well as
>> other ways to help define the chapter and thematic organisation affiliate
>> models, during the upcoming strategy consultation. The Affiliations
>> Committee and the Board of Trustees will continue to evaluate results and
>> feedback during the initial pilot period and consider potential revisions
>> to the criteria before they are finalized.
>>
>> Thank you,
>> M.
>>
>> 1: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee/Chapt
>> er_Summary_Matrix
>> 2: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee/Thema
>> tic_Organisation_Summary_Matrix
>> --
>> "*Jülüjain wane mmakat* ein kapülain tü alijunakalirua jee wayuukanairua
>> junain ekerolaa alümüin supüshuwayale etijaanaka. Ayatashi waya junain."
>> Carlos M. Colina
>> Socio, A.C. Wikimedia Venezuela | RIF J-40129321-2 | www.wikimedia.org.ve
>> 
>> Chair, Wikimedia Foundation Affiliations Committee
>> Phone: +972-52-4869915
>> Twitter: @maor_x
>>
>> El logotipo y el nombre de Wikimedia, Wikimedia Venezuela
>> , Wikipedia,
>> Wikimedia Commons, Wikimedia Incubator, Wiktionary y otros proyectos
>> relacionados  son
>> marcas registradas usadas bajo permiso expreso de su titular, la Fundación
>> Wikimedia, Inc. , una organización
>> sin fines de lucro. Otros nombres y marcas pertenecen a sus respectivos
>> propietarios.
>>
>> Asociación Civil Wikimedia Venezuela (Wikimedia Venezuela) | RIF.:
>> J-40129321-2 | Los Teques, Estado Miranda. Venezuela
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[Wikimedia-l] WMBE annual activities and financial report

2016-07-28 Thread Romaine Wiki
Hi all,

The annual report over 2015 is now available on Meta.

The annual activities report can be found at:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_chapters/Reports/Wikimedia_Belgium/Activity/2015

The annual financial report can be found at:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_chapters/Reports/Wikimedia_Belgium/Financial/2015

Kind regards,

Romaine


board member Wikimedia Belgium
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[Wikimedia-l] Coming Friday: Freedom in Panorama in Belgium

2016-07-12 Thread Romaine Wiki
Hi all!

As announced earlier, Freedom of Panorama comes into force coming Friday 15
July 2016.

Press release:
https://be.wikimedia.org/wiki/Press_release_Freedom_of_Panorama_in_Belgium


According to Belgian law, a law change comes into force on the 10th day
after the publication in the Belgian journal (Belgisch Staatsblad
 / Moniteur belge
).  (source: fr
/nl

)

Publication took place on 5 July 2016. (source: fr

/nl

)


Some things need to be updated Friday:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Freedom_of_panorama
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:NoFoP-Belgium
And created:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:FoP-Belgium
similar to Template:FoP-Nederland
 and others
in Category:FoP
templates .

About 1411 images that have been deleted on Commons as result of no Freedom
of Panorama, need to be restored - similar to Public Domain Day
.
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Belgian_FOP_cases
Please make sure you categorise the restored files, which can mean that the
category needs to be restored too.

Based on the deletion log I will collect the restored images, similar to
Public Domain Day.


For those in Belgium (or close), be welcome to join our launch event in
Brussels:
https://be.wikimedia.org/wiki/Invitation_to_the_Freedom_of_Panorama_in_Belgium_launch_event


Thanks all!

Romaine
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[Wikimedia-l] Writing weeks about cultural heritage started

2016-06-29 Thread Romaine Wiki
Hi all,

Today the Dutch minister for education, culture and science opened the
thematic writing week that started with the creation of a first article
about a historic painting.

On 8 Wikipedias already a project pages has been created, and anyone is
free to write in their own language about cultural heritage from anywhere
in the world.

More information at:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Writing_week/Cultural_Heritage

Tweets can be found here:
English: https://twitter.com/Wikimedia_BE/status/748070516741804033
Dutch: https://twitter.com/MinOCW/status/748057721325367305

Be welcome!

Romaine
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[Wikimedia-l] Freedom of panorama today approved by Belgian parliament

2016-06-16 Thread Romaine Wiki
Hi all,

Great news!

Freedom of panorama has been voted today in the Belgian parliament.
A mayority voted in favour of freedom of panorama, including commercial use.

Soon images of artworks and modern buildings in Belgium can be restored on
Commons.

But first the law needs to be published in the Staatsblad, and ten days
later it will be official, but that is just a formality. (Will keep you
updated on that.)


Article in the news in Dutch:
http://deredactie.be/cm/vrtnieuws/politiek/1.2685852


In the past weeks, as well as since the campaign in Europe last year, we
from Wikimedia Belgium have worked hard on this subject and communicated
with the members of the parliament informing what this subject means for
Wikipedia.

With the founding of Wikimedia Belgium in 2014, this subject was a priority
for us.

Thanks all for the support!

Let's get this implemented elsewhere too!

Greetings from Belgium,
Romaine
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Museums of 100 masterpieces from Brussels

2016-05-26 Thread Romaine Wiki
Hi Yaroslav,

Thank you for the interest in the project!

The whole project takes 100 days for 100 masterpieces.
As now the subject is hot around this topic I will start reaching out to
museums in this week and/or next week, first with museums with PD materials.
If it is possible to show the museums that they get more and more articles
written on Wikipedia about them, the more existing they hopefully will be.

As you may have noticed, it is going ad-hoc, which is the result of the
missing collaboration of the core organising organisation.

The first step is now getting the museums in Wikipedia. When the museums
start to provide us images, we also will look to which masterpieces are
notable to add as own article in Wikipedia.

Greetings,
Romaine


2016-05-26 9:15 GMT+02:00 Yaroslav M. Blanter <pute...@mccme.ru>:

> On 2016-05-25 10:31, Romaine Wiki wrote:
>
>> Hello all,
>>
>
> The next step will be talking to the museums to show our interest in them
>> and we hope they want to donate images for usage in these and other
>> articles.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Romaine
>>
>
> Hi Romaine,
>
> what is the time scale you have in mind?
>
> Cheers
> Yaroslav
>
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[Wikimedia-l] Museums of 100 masterpieces from Brussels

2016-05-25 Thread Romaine Wiki
Hello all,

In the past week the council of museums in Brussels started the project of
100 masterpieces in Brussels. Based on their list we have checked which
museums have an article in Wikipedia and which not.

On the Dutch Wikipedia we miss only one article at the moment, and someone
started writing it.

On the French Wikipedia we miss only 6 articles of the 40 museums with
masterpieces:
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Le_Bistro/25_mai_2016#100_chefs-d.27oeuvre_des_mus.C3.A9es_bruxellois

On the English Wikipedia we miss 18 articles of the 40 museums with
masterpieces:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Romaine/100_masterpieces_from_Brussels

We now try to get at least in these three languages an article about these
museums with masterpieces from Brussels.

An article in other languages are welcome as well.


The next step will be talking to the museums to show our interest in them
and we hope they want to donate images for usage in these and other
articles.

Thanks!

Romaine
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[Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Belgium Newsletter - April 2016

2016-04-03 Thread Romaine Wiki
View web version
 - bulletin
d'information en
français 
- nieuwsbrief
in het Nederlands 

[image: Logo Wikimedia Belgium]


*Wikimedia Belgium Newsletter - April 2016*

Please find the newsletter of April 2016 from Wikimedia Belgium below.

The newsletter covers the period of January to March 2016.

Rue du Trône 51
1050 Brussels
i...@wikimedia.be
www.wikimedia.be
be.wikimedia.org
https://twitter.com/Wikimedia_BE
Upcoming events

   - *4-16 April 2016:* Writing weeks about the Brussels Capital Region to
   describe this region better on Wikipedia. You are welcome to participate in
   any language Wikipedia you like.   *Read more >>>
   
*
   During the writing weeks also writing sessions on location are organised
   and are open to anyone. These are at:

[image: Writing on Wikipedia]


   - *5 April:* library of Koekelberg
   - *6 April:* library of Koekelberg
   - *7 April:* library of Jette
   - *7 April:* library of Woluwe-Saint-Pierre
   - *9 April:* Muntpunt library, Brussels
   - *11 April:* library of Koekelberg
   - *12 April:* library of Anderlecht
   - *12 April:* Vrije Universiteit Brussel
   - *13 April:* Vrije Universiteit Brussel
   - *14 April:* library of Jette
   - *14 April:* Vrije Universiteit Brussel



   - *July-August 2016:* Wiki Loves Art
    photo contest about
   Belgian art



   - *19-21 August 2016:* WikiConvention francophone in Paris



   - *September 2016:* Wiki Loves Monuments
    photo contest about
   cultural heritage sites in Belgium and Luxembourg


Short news

[image: Wikipedia 15 logo]


   - On 15 January 2016 Wikipedia turned 15. With this occasion we got
   multiple press inquiries and media attention in the Belgian press.


   - On 2 February, Jimmy Wales, the founder of Wikipedia, received a
doctoratus
   honoris causa  from
   the Université catholique de Louvain
   
   (UCL).


   - On 25 February a photography hackathon was organised by the Katholieke
   Universiteit Leuven
    and
   Europeana  at FabLab, where
   WMBE members Stefano Caneva and Derek v. Giroulle gave a presentation about
   Wikimedia.


   - On 28 February a Wikimedia presentation was given at Université
   catholique de Louvain (UCL) for non French native people by M0tty.

[image: Talk at Open Belgium]


   - On 29 February the conference Open Belgium
    was organised in Antwerp by
   Open Knowledge Belgium. There two presentations related to Wikimedia were
   given: one about Wiki Loves Art
    by Romaine, and one about
   Linked Open Data publications by Flemish museums through Wikidata
    by Packed vzw.


Association

[image: New board of Wikimedia Belgium]


On 23 January 2016 Wikimedia Belgium had its annual general assembly. There
the members chose a new board for our association.   *Read more >>>
*



Education

[image: Wikipedia belongs in education]


The Wikiducation.be project is ready for launch and pilots in Dutch. The
objective is to have students contribute to Wikipedia in the context of
their classwork.   *Read more >>>
*



Cultural institutions (GLAM ) Linked
Open Data through Wikidata

[image: Wikidata editing session for institutions]


Packed vzw started in 2015, with support from Wikimedia and its users, the
project Linked Open Data via Wikidata in what cultural institutions start
working with Wikidata. The project included a white paper being written and
participating organisations having their CSV datasets being added to
Wikidata.   *Read more >>>

[Wikimedia-l] Open Belgium conference

2016-02-22 Thread Romaine Wiki
Hello all,

In one week is the annual Open Belgium conference: 29 February.

More information at:
2016.openbelgium.be


Greetings,
Romaine
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[Wikimedia-l] Just to be sure: this is the location

2015-11-25 Thread Romaine Wiki
Hi all,

As a large group of Wikipedians is going to gather in an unusual building
today, hereby a photo so that everyone can find it. ;-)

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:The_Royal_Palace_on_the_Dam_of_Amsterdam_on_25_November_2015.jpg

Romaine
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Next step in the development

2015-10-29 Thread Romaine Wiki
That is comparing it with wrong examples that are not relevant here.
On Wikipedia we have the guideline that articles an categories should be
added to Wikidata, that originates back to the phase that only manual
interwikis existed.

And we have already received complaints why users do not get a message
after they created a category/article to add it to Wikidata.

Further I propose this only for (logged in) users, and perhaps further
settings are possible.

At the moment the largest workload is coming from articles that are not
added to Wikidata. Some users produce five articles a day, all not added to
Wikidata, while the articles are fine. In two days we have about 100 new
articles on nl-wiki, all not added to Wikidata. This is just one wiki, and
a huge workload to get them added properly.

Romaine


2015-10-29 20:46 GMT+01:00 Risker <risker...@gmail.com>:

> Whatever happened to "Wikipedia, the encyclopedia anyone can edit"?
>
> This is adding a layer of complexity and expectation that I don't really
> feel comfortable with.  We don't expect people to add images to Commons
> when they write an article.  We don't expect people to include definitions
> in Wiktionary when they are using a word.  We don't expect people to be
> adding material to Wikisource or add quotes to Wikiquote.  For that matter,
> we don't expect people to write Wikipedia articles about what they review
> on wikisource, or about images they add to Commons, or quotes they add to
> Wikiquote.  So why would we set up any kind of expectation that people
> would add "data" to Wikidata?
>
> I also am concerned that people will add a new article that, bluntly put,
> isn't going to last more than an hour...get these messages, and add junk
> data to Wikidata.  Wikidatians are working hard to add referencing and
> improve what is there already, but it's a huge labour and we shouldn't be
> adding to their mountain of work unnecessarily.
>
> Risker/Anne
>
> On 29 October 2015 at 14:37, Romaine Wiki <romaine.w...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I think it is time for the next step in the Wikidata development: a
> better
> > integration in Wikipedia and her sisterprojects.
> >
> > Every day thousands of articles are created, and many of those are not
> > added to Wikidata, even while often an item about this subject exists.
> > Users forget to add a newly created article to Wikidata as there is no
> > stimulus at all. The next step in Wikidata development is that after the
> > creation of an article, users get a message (pop-up, or screen, etc) in
> > what they are asked to add the article/category to Wikidata. In the first
> > stage this can be just a pop-up with a message. But it would be better if
> > this can be a message + some help to do this, so that users can stay in
> > Wikipedia (or another project), without having to go to Wikidata.
> >
> > A further step that can be developed after is the suggestion of
> properties
> > (if missing), like instance of, and based on this entry further
> properties.
> >
> > This will make sure that there is a better integration of Wikipedia and
> her
> > sister projects with Wikidata through this workflow.
> >
> > For this I created a Phabricator task at:
> > https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T117070
> >
> > Thanks!
> > Romaine
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[Wikimedia-l] Next step in the development

2015-10-29 Thread Romaine Wiki
Hi all,

I think it is time for the next step in the Wikidata development: a better
integration in Wikipedia and her sisterprojects.

Every day thousands of articles are created, and many of those are not
added to Wikidata, even while often an item about this subject exists.
Users forget to add a newly created article to Wikidata as there is no
stimulus at all. The next step in Wikidata development is that after the
creation of an article, users get a message (pop-up, or screen, etc) in
what they are asked to add the article/category to Wikidata. In the first
stage this can be just a pop-up with a message. But it would be better if
this can be a message + some help to do this, so that users can stay in
Wikipedia (or another project), without having to go to Wikidata.

A further step that can be developed after is the suggestion of properties
(if missing), like instance of, and based on this entry further properties.

This will make sure that there is a better integration of Wikipedia and her
sister projects with Wikidata through this workflow.

For this I created a Phabricator task at:
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T117070

Thanks!
Romaine
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Next step in the development

2015-10-29 Thread Romaine Wiki
Yes, exactly. :-)

2015-10-29 23:22 GMT+01:00 Magnus Manske <magnusman...@googlemail.com>:

> I think it might just be a question of phrasing, actually.
>
> "Check if your new topic already exists in other languages, and connect it
> to those!
> Or [click here] to start a new Wikidata item for your article, so other
> language editions of Wikipedia can find it more easily!"
>
> For Wikipedians, the purpose of Wikidata is not "because Wikidata". It is
> added value to their own work; language links are an important part of
> this.
>
> On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 10:33 PM Leila Zia <le...@wikimedia.org> wrote:
>
> > Hi Risker,
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 1:20 PM, Risker <risker...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > We do not expect anyone to add information to any other
> > > project when they create content on the project of their choice.
> >
> >
> > I'm thinking the Insert Media option in VE: there, we are giving the
> editor
> > the option to upload Media to the article which in reality means
> uploading
> > Media to Commons if I'm not missing something. The workflow is very
> smooth,
> > and the Wikipedia editor does not need to know about Commons to follow
> the
> > flow.
> >
> > Leila
> >
> >
> > > On 29 October 2015 at 16:08, Romaine Wiki <romaine.w...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > That is comparing it with wrong examples that are not relevant here.
> > > > On Wikipedia we have the guideline that articles an categories should
> > be
> > > > added to Wikidata, that originates back to the phase that only manual
> > > > interwikis existed.
> > > >
> > > > And we have already received complaints why users do not get a
> message
> > > > after they created a category/article to add it to Wikidata.
> > > >
> > > > Further I propose this only for (logged in) users, and perhaps
> further
> > > > settings are possible.
> > > >
> > > > At the moment the largest workload is coming from articles that are
> not
> > > > added to Wikidata. Some users produce five articles a day, all not
> > added
> > > to
> > > > Wikidata, while the articles are fine. In two days we have about 100
> > new
> > > > articles on nl-wiki, all not added to Wikidata. This is just one
> wiki,
> > > and
> > > > a huge workload to get them added properly.
> > > >
> > > > Romaine
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 2015-10-29 20:46 GMT+01:00 Risker <risker...@gmail.com>:
> > > >
> > > > > Whatever happened to "Wikipedia, the encyclopedia anyone can edit"?
> > > > >
> > > > > This is adding a layer of complexity and expectation that I don't
> > > really
> > > > > feel comfortable with.  We don't expect people to add images to
> > Commons
> > > > > when they write an article.  We don't expect people to include
> > > > definitions
> > > > > in Wiktionary when they are using a word.  We don't expect people
> to
> > be
> > > > > adding material to Wikisource or add quotes to Wikiquote.  For that
> > > > matter,
> > > > > we don't expect people to write Wikipedia articles about what they
> > > review
> > > > > on wikisource, or about images they add to Commons, or quotes they
> > add
> > > to
> > > > > Wikiquote.  So why would we set up any kind of expectation that
> > people
> > > > > would add "data" to Wikidata?
> > > > >
> > > > > I also am concerned that people will add a new article that,
> bluntly
> > > put,
> > > > > isn't going to last more than an hour...get these messages, and add
> > > junk
> > > > > data to Wikidata.  Wikidatians are working hard to add referencing
> > and
> > > > > improve what is there already, but it's a huge labour and we
> > shouldn't
> > > be
> > > > > adding to their mountain of work unnecessarily.
> > > > >
> > > > > Risker/Anne
> > > > >
> > > > > On 29 October 2015 at 14:37, Romaine Wiki <romaine.w...@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi all,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I think it is time for the next step in the Wikidata
> develop

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Next step in the development

2015-10-29 Thread Romaine Wiki
Hi,

We have tried it, but didn't work as in a small community this isn't
doable.

Romaine

2015-10-29 21:59 GMT+01:00 WereSpielChequers :

> Hi Romaine,
>
> Having bots that list tasks that need  doing is a great way to get things
> done. But you need to think carefully who you target this work at. We do
> have bots that tell editors when they've linked an article to a
> disambiguation page, there is some logic in that as the person who added
> the information is more likely to understand it and know which other
> article it really should be added to. But for general gnomish work like
> categorisation adding wikilinks and now migrating to wikidata, better I
> suggest to create some category and try to recruit gnomes to do that work
> en masse. Someone who creates a few dozen articles might not fancy learning
> about wikidata, but a gnome who specialises in it might do many times that
> amount of migration.
>
> Remember the essence of crowd sourcing is to get lots of people to take on
> the parts of the task that they want to do.
>
> WSC
>
>
> > Message: 7
> > Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2015 12:04:58 -0700
> > From: Raymond Leonard 
> > To: Wikimedia Mailing List 
> > Cc: Wikidata mailing list 
> > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Next step in the development
> > Message-ID:
> > 

[Wikimedia-l] Good news for Wikimedians in San Francisco!

2015-10-26 Thread Romaine Wiki
Hi all,

As you of course know, stroopwafels are official wikifood. See:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Association_of_Stroopwafel_Addicts

As Dutch we are aware of the shortage of this original typical wikifood in
other parts of the world, so we travel around the world with many packages
each year at Wikimania and elsewhere. However, it is always more tasty to
eat fresh stroopwafels, so the Dutch inspire a lot of people around the
world to sell them.

Of course everyone has a high need as Wikipedian/Wikimedian, but as the
headquarters of the Wikimedia movement is in San Francisco, the supply is
there the most urgent.

Today I learned that Wikimedia people in San Francisco do not have to bit
on their teeth or tongue, but can now buy fresh stroopwafels!
See: http://www.stroopiegourmet.com/

Finally San Francisco is saved from an anarchy because of a huge shortage
of stroopwafels.

I hope that the San Francisco people enjoy the official Wikipedia/Wikimedia
wikifood as part of their daily (!) local cuisine!

Romaine
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Introducing the Wikimedia Affiliates mailing list

2015-10-20 Thread Romaine Wiki
I do question why some members from the community should be involved in
chapter/affiliates issues.
If affiliates want to communicate with each other, without interference
from individual users, they had no way to do such until this list was
created.

And there is no transparency reduction. The suggestion that with creating
this list the transparency is reduced is an illusion. If affiliates want to
communicate with only affiliates, they will found another way to do that
without doing that publicly, and that is much less transparent.

Earlier on the chapters mailing list it appeared there is a enough support
for a closed list.

Wikimedia is a large movement. In that movement a lot of things are done
and a various set of tasks are performed. Each of those people doing the
same tasks like to be able to communicate with other people doing the same
task(s). To communicate effectively e-mail lists are created. For example,
also Wikipedia admins have multiple private mailing lists, arbcom, OTRS,
Stewards, etc. They all have sensitive data, but they also just like to be
able to share experiences, ask questions with people who do the same tasks,
and have some basic level of communication. This communication is essential
for doing a task and improving the quality in how this task is executed.
This communication will happen anyway. But they are two ways to organise
that: organised in a closed mailing list or not organised with people
communicate only directly with excluding many relevant people.

No, there is not a new another walled garden, it is just a better organised
walled garden that exists already for a long time in other forms.

Romaine



2015-10-19 19:10 GMT+02:00 Ed Erhart :

> I too question the need for a private mailing list. We should require more
> than a just a "consistent request" before we reduce transparency and create
> yet another walled garden away from the community.
>
> --Ed
> On Oct 16, 2015 12:07 AM, "Pine W"  wrote:
>
> > Got it. Thanks Varnent.
> >
> > Regarding the privacy question: I'm sort of thinking that if we really
> want
> > to keep the new list private for legal or other reasons, it should be run
> > outside of WMF servers like the chapters list is. On the other hand, if
> the
> > purpose of the new list is to facilitate discussion among affiliates in a
> > smaller and less public group while still being open to WMF employees to
> a
> > limited degree, then the hosting proposed here makes sense. Personally, I
> > get the sense that the affiliate and WMF relationships have generally
> > (there are exceptions) warmed a bit over the past couple of years as
> > affiliate governance and leadership have evolved and as WMF's evaluation
> > capacity has improved, so I'm fine with the new design. Thanks for
> working
> > on this.
> >
> > Pine
> > On Oct 15, 2015 8:55 PM, "Gregory Varnum" 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hey Pine,
> > >
> > > As you know, AffCom started looking into this list after some
> discussions
> > > with affiliates in Berlin, Wikimania, and at that page you referred to.
> > We
> > > did talk with that list’s moderators about potentially reusing that
> list
> > > (largely why the creation of this list took awhile). However,
> ultimately,
> > > we decided to proceed with the creation of this list.
> > >
> > > The old list is not on Wikimedia servers or officially connected to
> > > AffCom, so I cannot speak to its future. However, it has becoming
> > > increasingly inactive, is limited to chapters (so excludes a majority
> of
> > > our affiliates), and not something we have promoted recently. My
> personal
> > > hope is that this new broader list replaces that one over time, but
> that
> > is
> > > not something we can “force” as it’s not a resource we officially help
> > > manage.
> > >
> > > -greg (User:Varnent)
> > > Vice Chair, Affiliations Committee
> > >
> > >
> > > > On Oct 15, 2015, at 5:19 PM, Pine W  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi Carlos,
> > > >
> > > > Can you clarify how this list relates to the existing chapters
> mailing
> > > > list? (Also, please see the discussion at
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_Affiliates_Network#Mailing_list_request_for_comment
> > > > ).
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Pine
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 2:04 PM, Carlos M. Colina <
> > > ma...@wikimedia.org.ve>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Dear all,
> > > >>
> > > >> On behalf of the Affiliations Committe, I am pleased to introduce
> the
> > > >> launch of the Wikimedia Affiliates mailing list, which is basically
> a
> > > place
> > > >> for all the affiliates (chapters, thematic organizations, user
> groups)
> > > to
> > > >> discuss issues related to affiliates, make announcements to other
> > > >> affiliates, and collaborate on activities and community-wide events.
> > The
> > > >> idea is to help facilitate the dialogue affiliates across our
> > 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Increase in size of the core editing community

2015-09-10 Thread Romaine Wiki
Hi!

In economics there is a business cycle with ups and downs. This is a
naturally process that also exists in the number of editors.
If there would be a trend that only exists in more and more users editing,
just like the dot-com buble ,
a growth that is too large collapses at some point as the existing
community can't handle it.

In multiple years I have given workshops and edit-a-thons where new editors
learned how to edit. They all are very interested in continuing with it.
But for some reason they actually did not. Asking why received in a very
simple answer: on Wikipedia it lacks of an environment where new users can
actually work together in an easy way, where they can form a group and
easily follow the group edits, having a joint project, etc. They experience
that after an workshop, they walk into a large wiki where it is not easy to
start from blank, they experience the doorstep as too high. As long as this
issue, noticed with many many groups of new editors, is not solved, the
core problem is not solved.

And beyond that issue, there are also other issues we can think of,
including how newcomers are treated, or the difficulties of online
communication, and more. There is a lot of work to do before I think we can
be really positive about the number of users. Not to be negative, but to be
realistic.
As movement we should work together on getting a more social environment.

Greetings,
Romaine

2015-09-10 16:21 GMT+02:00 WereSpielChequers :

> A quick follow up to the signpost article of a couple of weeks ago
> <
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2015-08-26/In_focus
> >We
> now have the August figures
> , and August has
> continued what we might reasonably start calling the new trend. The English
> Wikipedia has more editors with 100 or more live edits in mainspace than
> for any August since 2010. Across all Wikipedias combined the figures are
> up almost as steeply with a near 10% increase on August 2014, though this
> doesn't quite get us back to 2012 levels.
>
> We aren't out of the woods yet as other metrics are still declining, for
> example both new accounts and editors making 5 or more saves are both down
> across Wikipedia generally when comparing August 2015 with 2014.
>
> But it's nice to have one metric be positive.
>
> Regards
>
>
> WereSpielChequers
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wiki Loves Monuments] Wiki Loves Monuments in Italy largely blocked by WMF fundraising

2015-09-06 Thread Romaine Wiki
I think everyone here worked in good faith, and everyone started with
patience in this situation. Suggesting otherwise suggests a lack of empathy.
But we should not close our eyes when the community is being played in a
non fair way, and I then mean NOT the bocking banner, but how the
interaction went. This issue is not the first time that the fundraising
team has shown us rude behaviour.

There was no polarizing rhetoric, the rhetoric used was used when the
polarisation already happened. And was only used when the edge of care,
patience and reasonable was passed long ago. It is nice to call here in
public that we should bring up issues and suggest solutions, but we have
done so.

I find it disturbing that WMF does not recognise their own worse behaviour
(of *some* staff), and sticks their head in the sand.

If you say that it is *our* issue, a different attitude should be used: the
community has not been treated as a stakeholder, while we are.
As long as the community is not actually seen as stakeholder, it makes
highlighting *one mission* being empty words

It is said (by WMF staff) that we should come to a better planning of
CentralNotice banners, we are open for that as we have called for this
already 2013. We are open to this and are waiting.

Greetings,
Romaine





2015-09-05 7:15 GMT+02:00 Lila Tretikov :

> First, thanks to all of those who worked in good faith, with patience and
> care for each other to solve this problem. I appreciate the level of
> compromise and empathy that was required from teams at WMIL and WMF. Thank
> you!
>
> Second, I want to highlight that this is a *our* issue, we are a community
> and we need to think about our *one mission* to engage every human with
> knowledge, before our individual goals. Let's please remember that before
> we detract and distract with polarizing rhetoric (you know who you are on
> this list). Bring up issues, suggest solutions. But please, in good faith
> and with care for each other.
>
> Thanks all,
> Lila
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 8:26 AM, Peter Southwood <
> peter.southw...@telkomsa.net> wrote:
>
> > I was referring to the fundraising targets, which have been cited as a
> > cause of the dispute. WMIT/WLM have explained at length their reasons for
> > needing banners in September. I am in no position to comment on whether
> > their analysis is correct or not . Fundraising has not been so
> forthcoming
> > in response to queries.
> > Cheers,
> > Peter
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:
> > wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Pine W
> > Sent: Friday, 04 September 2015 1:45 PM
> > To: Wikimedia Mailing List
> > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wiki Loves Monuments] Wiki Loves Monuments in
> > Italy largely blocked by WMF fundraising
> >
> > I guess I'm not clear on whether you're asking about the Fundraising
> > targets or the WLM/WMIT targets, or both. Can you clarify?
> >
> > My understanding from this email chain is that there will be a
> > deconfliction of banner space via better scheduling next year. I think
> that
> > someone suggested setting up a calendar to track banner use, which might
> > also be helpful.
> >
> > I think I'll step out of this conversation for the moment, and let the
> > stakeholders take it from here.
> >
> > Pine
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 4:25 AM, Peter Southwood <
> > peter.southw...@telkomsa.net> wrote:
> >
> > > One of the basic tenets of health and safety, is that if you have a
> > > near miss incident, it should be analysed the same way that a fatal
> > > incident would be investigated. Not to apportion blame, even if it is
> > > due, but so that the same situation can be avoided in the future.
> > > Organisations that fail to do this are doomed to repeat their
> > > mistakes, not necessarily by the same people, who may well have
> > > learned, but often by other departments, where the people did not get
> > the opportunity to learn by the mistake.
> > > Refusal to answer reasonable and legitimate questions by stakeholders
> > > often leads to accusations of conspiracy and bad faith and can end in
> > > the local demagogues, of which we have an adequate supply, inciting
> > > the torch and pitchfork brigade. Things may go downhill at this point.
> > > Cheers,
> > > Peter
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:
> > > wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Pine W
> > > Sent: Friday, 04 September 2015 8:43 AM
> > > To: Wikimedia Mailing List
> > > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wiki Loves Monuments] Wiki Loves Monuments
> > > in Italy largely blocked by WMF fundraising
> > >
> > > Yes, I think it is the case that Fundraising and other organizations
> > > (like the WLM coordinators, Wikimedia Italia, and Community Resources
> > > / FDC) were working from different playbooks. But now that Fundraising
> > > has agreed to change their plans, I 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wiki Loves Monuments] Wiki Loves Monuments in Italy largely blocked by WMF fundraising

2015-08-31 Thread Romaine Wiki
nks about this.
> > >
> > > [1]
> > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Fundraising_banne
> > > r_or_Wiki_Loves_Monuments_banner
> > >
> > > > Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2015 19:04:41 +0200
> > > > From: romaine.w...@gmail.com
> > > > To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org;
> > > wikilovesmonume...@lists.wikimedia.org
> > > > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wiki Loves Monuments] Wiki Loves
> > > > Monuments
> > > in Italy largely blocked by WMF fundraising
> > > >
> > > > Hi all,
> > > >
> > > > Having spoken with some people, I have come to the conclusion that
> > > > it is time to ask the Wikimedia community what they think about this
> > > situation. I
> > > > have especially seen both parties, the Wiki Loves Monuments
> > > > organising teams who like to have a banner for Wiki Loves Monuments
> > > > in September,
> > > and
> > > > the WMF Fundraising team who likes to have a fundraising banner in
> > > > September. Then the question remains: what has more value for the
> > > Wikimedia
> > > > movement?
> > > >
> > > > To find out what the Wikimedia community thinks about this
> > > > situation, I have set up this Request for Comment:
> > > >
> > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Fundraising_banne
> > > r_or_Wiki_Loves_Monuments_banner
> > > >
> > > > Romaine
> > > >
> > > > 2015-08-30 15:35 GMT+02:00 Romaine Wiki <romaine.w...@gmail.com>:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi all,
> > > > >
> > > > > New update:
> > > > >
> > > > > The Italian team had some calls with the fundraising team and it
> > > resulted
> > > > > in:
> > > > > * Wiki Loves Monuments gets the whole 4th week of September. So we
> > > > > will have the WLM banner alone the first and the last week.
> > > > > * WLM IT is discussing with the community a message in the Main
> > > > > Page of Wikipedia
> > > > > * WMF will try to put a link to WLM in the banner
> > > > > * WMF will put a link to WLM in the Thank You letter for donors.
> > > > > * WMF is helping WLM Italy with a blogpost in the blog, and social
> > > media
> > > > > fire
> > > > >
> > > > > They made clear this won't happen again.
> > > > >
> > > > > To me, the only improvements is their promise it won't happen
> > > > > again,
> > > what
> > > > > we certainly keep them having their promise in future, and that
> > > > > the
> > > amount
> > > > > of time the Wiki Loves Monuments banner is shown will be 50% of
> > > > > the
> > > time.
> > > > >
> > > > > The rest of the outcomes is lousy and they sold us empty boxes.
> > > > > Wiki
> > > Loves
> > > > > Monuments depends for about 99% on a CentralNotice banner. Most
> > > visitors to
> > > > > Wikipedia do not visit the main page of a wiki. I do not believe a
> > > small
> > > > > link to WLM in a large fundraising banner would help or is seen. I
> > > > > do
> > > not
> > > > > believe that a link in the Thank You letter for donors would work.
> > > > > A blogpost will be written anyway, as Wiki Loves Monuments is the
> > > > > largest project of the Wikimedia movement, but still it would not
> > > > > reach to the
> > > core
> > > > > people Wiki Loves Monuments is aiming at. And a social media fire,
> > > > > I
> > > have
> > > > > no believe in it that WMF would have any control in such and the
> > > > > core infrastructure is not under control by WMF.
> > > > >
> > > > > And still no explanation why it is not possible to move the
> > > > > fundraising banner to a month later...
> > > > >
> > > > > I can only conclude that we have been put off, in Dutch:
> > > > > afgescheept worden (literally: being shipped of).
> > > > >
> > > > > At such having a blocking banner is sad news. A competition is
> > > > > large ruined by it.
> > > > >
> > > > > What I consider the most demotivating is th

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wiki Loves Monuments] Wiki Loves Monuments in Italy largely blocked by WMF fundraising

2015-08-30 Thread Romaine Wiki
Hi all,

Having spoken with some people, I have come to the conclusion that it is
time to ask the Wikimedia community what they think about this situation. I
have especially seen both parties, the Wiki Loves Monuments organising
teams who like to have a banner for Wiki Loves Monuments in September, and
the WMF Fundraising team who likes to have a fundraising banner in
September. Then the question remains: what has more value for the Wikimedia
movement?

To find out what the Wikimedia community thinks about this situation, I
have set up this Request for Comment:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Fundraising_banner_or_Wiki_Loves_Monuments_banner

Romaine

2015-08-30 15:35 GMT+02:00 Romaine Wiki romaine.w...@gmail.com:

 Hi all,

 New update:

 The Italian team had some calls with the fundraising team and it resulted
 in:
 * Wiki Loves Monuments gets the whole 4th week of September. So we will
 have the WLM banner alone the first and the last week.
 * WLM IT is discussing with the community a message in the Main Page of
 Wikipedia
 * WMF will try to put a link to WLM in the banner
 * WMF will put a link to WLM in the Thank You letter for donors.
 * WMF is helping WLM Italy with a blogpost in the blog, and social media
 fire

 They made clear this won't happen again.

 To me, the only improvements is their promise it won't happen again, what
 we certainly keep them having their promise in future, and that the amount
 of time the Wiki Loves Monuments banner is shown will be 50% of the time.

 The rest of the outcomes is lousy and they sold us empty boxes. Wiki Loves
 Monuments depends for about 99% on a CentralNotice banner. Most visitors to
 Wikipedia do not visit the main page of a wiki. I do not believe a small
 link to WLM in a large fundraising banner would help or is seen. I do not
 believe that a link in the Thank You letter for donors would work. A
 blogpost will be written anyway, as Wiki Loves Monuments is the largest
 project of the Wikimedia movement, but still it would not reach to the core
 people Wiki Loves Monuments is aiming at. And a social media fire, I have
 no believe in it that WMF would have any control in such and the core
 infrastructure is not under control by WMF.

 And still no explanation why it is not possible to move the fundraising
 banner to a month later...

 I can only conclude that we have been put off, in Dutch: afgescheept
 worden (literally: being shipped of).

 At such having a blocking banner is sad news. A competition is large
 ruined by it.

 What I consider the most demotivating is the play the fundraising team of
 WMF has played. I certainly do not consider it fair play. Too many empty
 promises, dividing the community to get less resistance, no fair
 negotiations, usage of the inexperience of volunteers, and more.

 And even after explaining the community perspective many times by multiple
 people, I still have the impression some people in WMF still do not really
 get it.

 I had the occasion in the past weeks that I spoke with people from WMF who
 are working for the foundation for some years, and I had to explain what
 Wiki Loves Monuments is. (And that was not the first time.) It is the
 largest project of the movement, recognised as largest photo contest in the
 world, and some WMF people do not know or understand. I was so friendly to
 explain it of course, but it gave mixed feelings.

 And even after explaining the community perspective many times by multiple
 people, they do not really get it.

 Lessons to be learned:
 * Do not assume that the fundraising team takes the best position for the
 movement, they have a target to make.
 * Do not assume the fundraising team plays a fair play. They have a lot of
 weight and use it.
 * Do not assume that their first offer (in case of a blocking banner) is a
 balanced, reasonable and well thought one.
 * Do not expect them to know how much the impact is of something.
 * Do expect them to offer empty shells/boxes/etc and are not impressed by
 those.
 * Say always no if they ask if a blocking banner or two banners at the
 same time is okay. It has a devastating effect on your results. Yes you
 can, some chapters did and that was taken into account seriously.
 * Always have the complete team involved in the communication, and even
 think of asking advisers (from outside WMF) for support and feedback on the
 proposals. Always have someone involved who has years of experience in this
 matter, otherwise you loose and the whole community looses.

 But I think the best lesson learned is: with every blocking banner, let
 the community publicly decide what should be chosen.

 Romaine




 2015-08-30 14:00 GMT+02:00 Steinsplitter Wiki steinsplitter-w...@live.com
 :

 I 100% agree with rupert's thoughts.

 Wiki(p|m)edia was and is mad be volunteers, therefore volunteer first
 should apply. Volunteers are contributing the content for exactly zero
 dollars per hour. It is all because of free knowledge and other

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wiki Loves Monuments] Wiki Loves Monuments in Italy largely blocked by WMF fundraising

2015-08-30 Thread Romaine Wiki
Hi all,

New update:

The Italian team had some calls with the fundraising team and it resulted
in:
* Wiki Loves Monuments gets the whole 4th week of September. So we will
have the WLM banner alone the first and the last week.
* WLM IT is discussing with the community a message in the Main Page of
Wikipedia
* WMF will try to put a link to WLM in the banner
* WMF will put a link to WLM in the Thank You letter for donors.
* WMF is helping WLM Italy with a blogpost in the blog, and social media
fire

They made clear this won't happen again.

To me, the only improvements is their promise it won't happen again, what
we certainly keep them having their promise in future, and that the amount
of time the Wiki Loves Monuments banner is shown will be 50% of the time.

The rest of the outcomes is lousy and they sold us empty boxes. Wiki Loves
Monuments depends for about 99% on a CentralNotice banner. Most visitors to
Wikipedia do not visit the main page of a wiki. I do not believe a small
link to WLM in a large fundraising banner would help or is seen. I do not
believe that a link in the Thank You letter for donors would work. A
blogpost will be written anyway, as Wiki Loves Monuments is the largest
project of the Wikimedia movement, but still it would not reach to the core
people Wiki Loves Monuments is aiming at. And a social media fire, I have
no believe in it that WMF would have any control in such and the core
infrastructure is not under control by WMF.

And still no explanation why it is not possible to move the fundraising
banner to a month later...

I can only conclude that we have been put off, in Dutch: afgescheept worden
(literally: being shipped of).

At such having a blocking banner is sad news. A competition is large ruined
by it.

What I consider the most demotivating is the play the fundraising team of
WMF has played. I certainly do not consider it fair play. Too many empty
promises, dividing the community to get less resistance, no fair
negotiations, usage of the inexperience of volunteers, and more.

And even after explaining the community perspective many times by multiple
people, I still have the impression some people in WMF still do not really
get it.

I had the occasion in the past weeks that I spoke with people from WMF who
are working for the foundation for some years, and I had to explain what
Wiki Loves Monuments is. (And that was not the first time.) It is the
largest project of the movement, recognised as largest photo contest in the
world, and some WMF people do not know or understand. I was so friendly to
explain it of course, but it gave mixed feelings.

And even after explaining the community perspective many times by multiple
people, they do not really get it.

Lessons to be learned:
* Do not assume that the fundraising team takes the best position for the
movement, they have a target to make.
* Do not assume the fundraising team plays a fair play. They have a lot of
weight and use it.
* Do not assume that their first offer (in case of a blocking banner) is a
balanced, reasonable and well thought one.
* Do not expect them to know how much the impact is of something.
* Do expect them to offer empty shells/boxes/etc and are not impressed by
those.
* Say always no if they ask if a blocking banner or two banners at the same
time is okay. It has a devastating effect on your results. Yes you can,
some chapters did and that was taken into account seriously.
* Always have the complete team involved in the communication, and even
think of asking advisers (from outside WMF) for support and feedback on the
proposals. Always have someone involved who has years of experience in this
matter, otherwise you loose and the whole community looses.

But I think the best lesson learned is: with every blocking banner, let the
community publicly decide what should be chosen.

Romaine




2015-08-30 14:00 GMT+02:00 Steinsplitter Wiki steinsplitter-w...@live.com:

 I 100% agree with rupert's thoughts.

 Wiki(p|m)edia was and is mad be volunteers, therefore volunteer first
 should apply. Volunteers are contributing the content for exactly zero
 dollars per hour. It is all because of free knowledge and other stuff, but
 not about money. It looks like money is fore some people moor important
 than free knowledge. It is frustrating...

 Regards,
 Steinsplitter

  From: rupert.thur...@gmail.com
  Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2015 21:35:46 +0200
  To: janb...@wikimedia.org; patricio.lore...@gmail.com;
 me.ly...@gmail.com; ubifri...@gmail.com; jmh...@gmail.com;
 dar...@alk.edu.pl; denny.vrande...@kit.edu; jwa...@wikia.com;
 s...@wikimedia.org
  CC: wikilovesmonume...@lists.wikimedia.org;
 wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
  Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wiki Loves Monuments] Wiki Loves Monuments
 in Italy largely blocked by WMF fundraising
 
  dear board,
 
  allow me to directly ask you to stop these fundraising persons to spoil
  wiki loves monuments because of less than intelligent KPIs. WMF cannot
 and
  should not behave 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wiki Loves Monuments] Wiki Loves Monuments in Italy largely blocked by WMF fundraising

2015-08-30 Thread Romaine Wiki
Yes, sorry, they did *not* communicate it with me.

They finally came to a great decision, it would have been perfect if they
had just made a public announcement here.

Romaine



2015-08-31 0:26 GMT+02:00 MF-Warburg mfwarb...@googlemail.com:

 Did you mean they did /not/ tell you?

 2015-08-31 0:16 GMT+02:00 Romaine Wiki romaine.w...@gmail.com:

  The most annoying part now is that the fundraising team did tell me thta,
  while I ma in change of the banners.
 
  How is it possible that they do worse and worse each time?
 
  Romaine
 
  2015-08-30 22:20 GMT+02:00 Andrea Zanni zanni.andre...@gmail.com:
 
   Hello everybody.
   I'm happy to announce that the Wikimedia Foundation has decided not to
  run
   the Fundraising banner in Italy during September.
  
   In the last week, the Fundraising Team and Wikimedia Italia's board
  worked
   hard together to find a common solution. In these very last days, we
   continued a very honest and direct conversation.
   I just received the news, and I'm glad to share it with you all.
  
   I personally think that the Fundraising Team made a brave move (as they
   will not likely meet the fundraising goals), and would love to see it
   welcomed with the respect it deserves.
  
   Best regards
  
   Andrea
  
  
   On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 8:33 PM, Steinsplitter Wiki 
   steinsplitter-w...@live.com wrote:
  
Thank you Romaine for setting up the RFC on meta [1]!
   
So we can see what the community thinks about this.
   
[1]
   
  
 
 https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Fundraising_banner_or_Wiki_Loves_Monuments_banner
   
 Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2015 19:04:41 +0200
 From: romaine.w...@gmail.com
 To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org;
wikilovesmonume...@lists.wikimedia.org
 Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wiki Loves Monuments] Wiki Loves
  Monuments
in Italy largely blocked by WMF fundraising

 Hi all,

 Having spoken with some people, I have come to the conclusion that
 it
   is
 time to ask the Wikimedia community what they think about this
situation. I
 have especially seen both parties, the Wiki Loves Monuments
  organising
 teams who like to have a banner for Wiki Loves Monuments in
  September,
and
 the WMF Fundraising team who likes to have a fundraising banner in
 September. Then the question remains: what has more value for the
Wikimedia
 movement?

 To find out what the Wikimedia community thinks about this
  situation, I
 have set up this Request for Comment:

   
  
 
 https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Fundraising_banner_or_Wiki_Loves_Monuments_banner

 Romaine

 2015-08-30 15:35 GMT+02:00 Romaine Wiki romaine.w...@gmail.com:

  Hi all,
 
  New update:
 
  The Italian team had some calls with the fundraising team and it
resulted
  in:
  * Wiki Loves Monuments gets the whole 4th week of September. So
 we
   will
  have the WLM banner alone the first and the last week.
  * WLM IT is discussing with the community a message in the Main
  Page
   of
  Wikipedia
  * WMF will try to put a link to WLM in the banner
  * WMF will put a link to WLM in the Thank You letter for donors.
  * WMF is helping WLM Italy with a blogpost in the blog, and
 social
media
  fire
 
  They made clear this won't happen again.
 
  To me, the only improvements is their promise it won't happen
  again,
what
  we certainly keep them having their promise in future, and that
 the
amount
  of time the Wiki Loves Monuments banner is shown will be 50% of
 the
time.
 
  The rest of the outcomes is lousy and they sold us empty boxes.
  Wiki
Loves
  Monuments depends for about 99% on a CentralNotice banner. Most
visitors to
  Wikipedia do not visit the main page of a wiki. I do not believe
 a
small
  link to WLM in a large fundraising banner would help or is seen.
 I
  do
not
  believe that a link in the Thank You letter for donors would
 work.
  A
  blogpost will be written anyway, as Wiki Loves Monuments is the
   largest
  project of the Wikimedia movement, but still it would not reach
 to
   the
core
  people Wiki Loves Monuments is aiming at. And a social media
 fire,
  I
have
  no believe in it that WMF would have any control in such and the
  core
  infrastructure is not under control by WMF.
 
  And still no explanation why it is not possible to move the
   fundraising
  banner to a month later...
 
  I can only conclude that we have been put off, in Dutch:
  afgescheept
  worden (literally: being shipped of).
 
  At such having a blocking banner is sad news. A competition is
  large
  ruined by it.
 
  What I consider the most demotivating is the play the fundraising
   team
of
  WMF has played. I certainly do not consider

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wiki Loves Monuments] Wiki Loves Monuments in Italy largely blocked by WMF fundraising

2015-08-30 Thread Romaine Wiki
The most annoying part now is that the fundraising team did tell me thta,
while I ma in change of the banners.

How is it possible that they do worse and worse each time?

Romaine

2015-08-30 22:20 GMT+02:00 Andrea Zanni zanni.andre...@gmail.com:

 Hello everybody.
 I'm happy to announce that the Wikimedia Foundation has decided not to run
 the Fundraising banner in Italy during September.

 In the last week, the Fundraising Team and Wikimedia Italia's board worked
 hard together to find a common solution. In these very last days, we
 continued a very honest and direct conversation.
 I just received the news, and I'm glad to share it with you all.

 I personally think that the Fundraising Team made a brave move (as they
 will not likely meet the fundraising goals), and would love to see it
 welcomed with the respect it deserves.

 Best regards

 Andrea


 On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 8:33 PM, Steinsplitter Wiki 
 steinsplitter-w...@live.com wrote:

  Thank you Romaine for setting up the RFC on meta [1]!
 
  So we can see what the community thinks about this.
 
  [1]
 
 https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Fundraising_banner_or_Wiki_Loves_Monuments_banner
 
   Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2015 19:04:41 +0200
   From: romaine.w...@gmail.com
   To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org;
  wikilovesmonume...@lists.wikimedia.org
   Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wiki Loves Monuments] Wiki Loves Monuments
  in Italy largely blocked by WMF fundraising
  
   Hi all,
  
   Having spoken with some people, I have come to the conclusion that it
 is
   time to ask the Wikimedia community what they think about this
  situation. I
   have especially seen both parties, the Wiki Loves Monuments organising
   teams who like to have a banner for Wiki Loves Monuments in September,
  and
   the WMF Fundraising team who likes to have a fundraising banner in
   September. Then the question remains: what has more value for the
  Wikimedia
   movement?
  
   To find out what the Wikimedia community thinks about this situation, I
   have set up this Request for Comment:
  
 
 https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Fundraising_banner_or_Wiki_Loves_Monuments_banner
  
   Romaine
  
   2015-08-30 15:35 GMT+02:00 Romaine Wiki romaine.w...@gmail.com:
  
Hi all,
   
New update:
   
The Italian team had some calls with the fundraising team and it
  resulted
in:
* Wiki Loves Monuments gets the whole 4th week of September. So we
 will
have the WLM banner alone the first and the last week.
* WLM IT is discussing with the community a message in the Main Page
 of
Wikipedia
* WMF will try to put a link to WLM in the banner
* WMF will put a link to WLM in the Thank You letter for donors.
* WMF is helping WLM Italy with a blogpost in the blog, and social
  media
fire
   
They made clear this won't happen again.
   
To me, the only improvements is their promise it won't happen again,
  what
we certainly keep them having their promise in future, and that the
  amount
of time the Wiki Loves Monuments banner is shown will be 50% of the
  time.
   
The rest of the outcomes is lousy and they sold us empty boxes. Wiki
  Loves
Monuments depends for about 99% on a CentralNotice banner. Most
  visitors to
Wikipedia do not visit the main page of a wiki. I do not believe a
  small
link to WLM in a large fundraising banner would help or is seen. I do
  not
believe that a link in the Thank You letter for donors would work. A
blogpost will be written anyway, as Wiki Loves Monuments is the
 largest
project of the Wikimedia movement, but still it would not reach to
 the
  core
people Wiki Loves Monuments is aiming at. And a social media fire, I
  have
no believe in it that WMF would have any control in such and the core
infrastructure is not under control by WMF.
   
And still no explanation why it is not possible to move the
 fundraising
banner to a month later...
   
I can only conclude that we have been put off, in Dutch: afgescheept
worden (literally: being shipped of).
   
At such having a blocking banner is sad news. A competition is large
ruined by it.
   
What I consider the most demotivating is the play the fundraising
 team
  of
WMF has played. I certainly do not consider it fair play. Too many
  empty
promises, dividing the community to get less resistance, no fair
negotiations, usage of the inexperience of volunteers, and more.
   
And even after explaining the community perspective many times by
  multiple
people, I still have the impression some people in WMF still do not
  really
get it.
   
I had the occasion in the past weeks that I spoke with people from
 WMF
  who
are working for the foundation for some years, and I had to explain
  what
Wiki Loves Monuments is. (And that was not the first time.) It is the
largest project of the movement, recognised as largest photo

Re: [Wikimedia-l] New WMF initiative: Community Capacity Development

2015-08-25 Thread Romaine Wiki
Hi Asaf,

It sounds interesting, but I do not have a clear idea how to proceed.

Like Capacity 4: New contributor engagement and growth. We organise a lot
of edit-a-thons and workshops with new contributors and one of the things
we sense is that the new users are willing to continue after the workshop,
but experience it as difficult and have no idea how to proceed. This can be
described as empty feeling, but this perspective as I described, is not
represented in the paragraph about empty feeling. Noticing the reactions we
got and the needs they described, it does not match with the section of
possible approaches. For them it is not a grace period, personalised
welcomes, or recognition, but they miss a way to keep a social interaction
with the group as they had such with the workshop/edit-a-thon about a
theme. Mentorship can be something, but as I tried that, it is pretty
difficult and extremely time sensitive in the current situation to keep
following a group of users. It is more, they like to work together easily
instead of having to look op all sorts of pages (Contibutions, Watchlist,
Project page, and so on).

So I think our issue matches for a part with this page, but I do not know
how to continue and do not know if this would fit here.

I also see in other capacities points that are interesting, but I am not
sure how to have it on the local wiki itself.

Greetings,
Romaine



2015-08-26 1:40 GMT+02:00 Asaf Bartov abar...@wikimedia.org:

 Dear Wikimedians,

 {{Nutshell|WMF Community Engagement Team is allocating staff time and
 funding to deliberate capacity-development projects with interested
 communities in six capacity areas: community governance; conflict
 management; on-wiki technical skills; new contributor engagement and
 growth; partnerships; communications}}

 ==Details==
 This is a new way of partnering with WMF: through two way conversations
 (rather than top-down planning), WMF will work with specific emerging
 communities to explore obstacles for community growth and explore and pilot
 solutions together.

 The first phase of this work consisted of a series of in-depth interviews
 with individuals from 16 specific emerging communities to gather
 information about existing and missing capacities.  Reviewing those
 interviews in aggregate, we came up with six capacities it seems useful to
 work together on.

 We prepared a page per such capacity, detailing challenges and possible
 approaches to build that capacity. We welcome your  feedback! Contributions
 to those pages can be done in the following ways:

 * Sign up on the sidebar of each capacity subpage if you want to implement
 certain practices described,
 * Provide more links to resources,
 * Expand the Potential Solutions section with new ideas.

 These pages, including your contributions, will serve as the basis for
 specific conversations with specific communities to develop plans or
 projects to build capacity.

 During this initial pilot period, we intend to pursue projects in two or
 three capacities at most, which will be chosen according to community
 interest, scale of community, and scale of readership.  We expect some of
 the specific actions we take in these projects would create resources
 [re-]usable by other communities as well.

 ==Join the Conversation==
 We invite you all to read through the capacity pages, and specifically, to
 see if the challenges described resonate with you and your community.  If
 they do, have an on-wiki discussion about it with your community, and if
 there's general interest, sign up on the capacity pages and we'll have a
 conversation about what might be some possible next steps.

 Find the six capacity pages on Meta, here:
 https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Capacity_Development

 Looking forward to fruitful engagement,

Asaf Bartov
Sati Houston
Community Engagement department
 --
 Asaf Bartov
 Wikimedia Foundation http://www.wikimediafoundation.org

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wiki Loves Monuments] Wiki Loves Monuments in Italy largely blocked by WMF fundraising

2015-08-24 Thread Romaine Wiki
Hi Jane,
Yes, Italy is one of those odd countries without freedom of panorama. The
copyright on photos of monuments is held by local governments. Wikimedia
Italy has as large task to get permission from these hundreds/thousands
local administrations for the photos uploaded. Therefore organising Wiki
Loves Monuments in Italy is a very very heavy and extensive task in
comparison with other countries. The Italian Wiki Loves Monuments team does
a great job in getting all the permissions.

You can't derive from the situation that there is no FoP, that thus the
impact won't be too great. Te kort door de bocht.

Romaine

2015-08-24 12:19 GMT+02:00 Jane Darnell jane...@gmail.com:

 Isn't Italy one of those odd European countries that won't allow freedom
 of panorama? Surely the impact won't be too great, considering that the
 type of people who can participate are at least savvy enough to understand
 the oddities of the Italian monuments situation  Commons. Italy was late
 to join the WLM party for this reason, and I understand it is only specific
 municipalities that take part now.

 On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 11:31 AM, Romaine Wiki romaine.w...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Giving Wiki Loves Monuments the worst possible situation is certainly not
 a compromise, but a situation in what users from the community are crushed
 under the weight of the foundation. A compromise is, according to the
 dictionary, a situation in what both parties concede something. In this
 case, WLM concedes everything and WMF nothing.
 I have seen already users asking if this will be the next big clash
 between WMF and the community, after the VisualEditor, MediaViewer,
 Superprotect and other issues. I personally hope not.

 You are of course free to think how much negative impact it will have,
 but I base my numbers on the statistics from the past years. We have seen
 each time a big influence from conflicting banners or outage. We have
 followed the statistics and the impact of past years and we have learned
 from the past that it has a big impact we certainly should not
 underestimate.

 And I disagree with your statement that there always will be a clash
 somewhere. There is no need for a clash if people work together on the
 planning. September is not the only month in autumn, and not all countries
 are occupied by Wiki Loves Monuments. Suggesting otherwise are fairy tales.
 This is one of the strongest examples of bad planning I have seen in all
 the years. Of every country that organises Wiki Loves Monuments, they have
 picked the worst possible country.

 You reduce this problem to just a number of emotive emails, with what
 you make clear you missed the essence of this case.

 Romaine

 2015-08-24 10:53 GMT+02:00 Chris Keating chriskeatingw...@gmail.com:

 Hi Romaine,

  And the outcome is ridiculous. This is not a compromise. The Italian
 WLM
  team has been crashed under the weight and preponderance of the
 Wikimedia
  Foundation.

 Well - it *is* a compromise. It isn't what you want and I think I
 understand your reasons for thinking it will have a very big impact. I
 know
 from plenty of past experience of being a volunteer disagreeing with WMF
 staff  how frustrating this is (though actually I think the impact on WLM
 will be less than you expect in this case).

 But it is plainly not the case that the WMF has just blundered ahead with
 what it was going to do anyway. And even if WMF were not involved at all
 and there were some other method of allocating banner space, if Autumn
 has
 the peak fundraising potential and is when WLM happens, there will always
 be some kind of clash somewhere, and someone or other will not get what
 they want. No number of emotive emails will change that.

 Regards,

 Chris
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wiki Loves Monuments] Wiki Loves Monuments in Italy largely blocked by WMF fundraising

2015-08-24 Thread Romaine Wiki
Giving Wiki Loves Monuments the worst possible situation is certainly not a
compromise, but a situation in what users from the community are crushed
under the weight of the foundation. A compromise is, according to the
dictionary, a situation in what both parties concede something. In this
case, WLM concedes everything and WMF nothing.
I have seen already users asking if this will be the next big clash between
WMF and the community, after the VisualEditor, MediaViewer, Superprotect
and other issues. I personally hope not.

You are of course free to think how much negative impact it will have, but
I base my numbers on the statistics from the past years. We have seen each
time a big influence from conflicting banners or outage. We have followed
the statistics and the impact of past years and we have learned from the
past that it has a big impact we certainly should not underestimate.

And I disagree with your statement that there always will be a clash
somewhere. There is no need for a clash if people work together on the
planning. September is not the only month in autumn, and not all countries
are occupied by Wiki Loves Monuments. Suggesting otherwise are fairy tales.
This is one of the strongest examples of bad planning I have seen in all
the years. Of every country that organises Wiki Loves Monuments, they have
picked the worst possible country.

You reduce this problem to just a number of emotive emails, with what you
make clear you missed the essence of this case.

Romaine

2015-08-24 10:53 GMT+02:00 Chris Keating chriskeatingw...@gmail.com:

 Hi Romaine,

  And the outcome is ridiculous. This is not a compromise. The Italian WLM
  team has been crashed under the weight and preponderance of the Wikimedia
  Foundation.

 Well - it *is* a compromise. It isn't what you want and I think I
 understand your reasons for thinking it will have a very big impact. I know
 from plenty of past experience of being a volunteer disagreeing with WMF
 staff  how frustrating this is (though actually I think the impact on WLM
 will be less than you expect in this case).

 But it is plainly not the case that the WMF has just blundered ahead with
 what it was going to do anyway. And even if WMF were not involved at all
 and there were some other method of allocating banner space, if Autumn has
 the peak fundraising potential and is when WLM happens, there will always
 be some kind of clash somewhere, and someone or other will not get what
 they want. No number of emotive emails will change that.

 Regards,

 Chris
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wiki Loves Monuments] Wiki Loves Monuments in Italy largely blocked by WMF fundraising

2015-08-24 Thread Romaine Wiki
Hi Jane,

The situation is more complicated for the organisers, yes.
But for participants in the contest it is not complicated. The Italian WLM
team has organised it in such way it is easy to participate.

Greetings,
Romaine

2015-08-24 13:08 GMT+02:00 Jane Darnell jane...@gmail.com:

 I think you misunderstand me. What I meant to say is that though the impact
 of no banner might be great, it is not so great as it would be for those
 countries who can attract newbies to the competition. The Italian situation
 is so complicated that I don't think their proportion of casual
 uploaders/experienced uploaders is the same as for other countries, ergo,
 the banner would be less of an issue, though still an issue.

 On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 12:54 PM, Romaine Wiki romaine.w...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Hi Jane,
  Yes, Italy is one of those odd countries without freedom of panorama. The
  copyright on photos of monuments is held by local governments. Wikimedia
  Italy has as large task to get permission from these hundreds/thousands
  local administrations for the photos uploaded. Therefore organising Wiki
  Loves Monuments in Italy is a very very heavy and extensive task in
  comparison with other countries. The Italian Wiki Loves Monuments team
 does
  a great job in getting all the permissions.
 
  You can't derive from the situation that there is no FoP, that thus the
  impact won't be too great. Te kort door de bocht.
 
  Romaine
 
  2015-08-24 12:19 GMT+02:00 Jane Darnell jane...@gmail.com:
 
  Isn't Italy one of those odd European countries that won't allow freedom
  of panorama? Surely the impact won't be too great, considering that the
  type of people who can participate are at least savvy enough to
 understand
  the oddities of the Italian monuments situation  Commons. Italy was
 late
  to join the WLM party for this reason, and I understand it is only
 specific
  municipalities that take part now.
 
  On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 11:31 AM, Romaine Wiki romaine.w...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  Giving Wiki Loves Monuments the worst possible situation is certainly
  not a compromise, but a situation in what users from the community are
  crushed under the weight of the foundation. A compromise is, according
 to
  the dictionary, a situation in what both parties concede something. In
 this
  case, WLM concedes everything and WMF nothing.
  I have seen already users asking if this will be the next big clash
  between WMF and the community, after the VisualEditor, MediaViewer,
  Superprotect and other issues. I personally hope not.
 
  You are of course free to think how much negative impact it will have,
  but I base my numbers on the statistics from the past years. We have
 seen
  each time a big influence from conflicting banners or outage. We have
  followed the statistics and the impact of past years and we have
 learned
  from the past that it has a big impact we certainly should not
  underestimate.
 
  And I disagree with your statement that there always will be a clash
  somewhere. There is no need for a clash if people work together on the
  planning. September is not the only month in autumn, and not all
 countries
  are occupied by Wiki Loves Monuments. Suggesting otherwise are fairy
 tales.
  This is one of the strongest examples of bad planning I have seen in
 all
  the years. Of every country that organises Wiki Loves Monuments, they
 have
  picked the worst possible country.
 
  You reduce this problem to just a number of emotive emails, with what
  you make clear you missed the essence of this case.
 
  Romaine
 
  2015-08-24 10:53 GMT+02:00 Chris Keating chriskeatingw...@gmail.com:
 
  Hi Romaine,
 
   And the outcome is ridiculous. This is not a compromise. The Italian
  WLM
   team has been crashed under the weight and preponderance of the
  Wikimedia
   Foundation.
 
  Well - it *is* a compromise. It isn't what you want and I think I
  understand your reasons for thinking it will have a very big impact. I
  know
  from plenty of past experience of being a volunteer disagreeing with
 WMF
  staff  how frustrating this is (though actually I think the impact on
  WLM
  will be less than you expect in this case).
 
  But it is plainly not the case that the WMF has just blundered ahead
  with
  what it was going to do anyway. And even if WMF were not involved at
 all
  and there were some other method of allocating banner space, if Autumn
  has
  the peak fundraising potential and is when WLM happens, there will
  always
  be some kind of clash somewhere, and someone or other will not get
 what
  they want. No number of emotive emails will change that.
 
  Regards,
 
  Chris
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Imminent block of access to Wikipedia in Russia

2015-08-24 Thread Romaine Wiki
To me the basic step in such a case like this is translating the article
about the agency in more languages, so that people can get more background
information. The article:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Service_for_Supervision_in_the_Sphere_of_Telecom,_Information_Technologies_and_Mass_Communications

Creating awareness starts with having a good article about the organisation
in question.

Romaine

2015-08-24 17:24 GMT+02:00 Yaroslav M. Blanter pute...@mccme.ru:

 Today, the Russian Federal Service for Supervision in the Sphere of
 Telecom, Information Technologies and Mass Communications instructed all
 Russian internet providers to block all user access to Wikipedia. All
 involved parties are aware of the development. I am not sure whether only
 ru.wikipedia.org will be blocked, or all WMF projects. In the latter
 case, if you are going to travel to Russia, you will need to gen an IP
 exempt flag in advance in the projects you are going to edit.

 Cheers
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wiki Loves Monuments] Wiki Loves Monuments in Italy largely blocked by WMF fundraising

2015-08-22 Thread Romaine Wiki
. Fundraising also
 cooperated with the French chapter to move those dates. No compromise is
 perfect, but I think we did the best we could under the circumstances. We
 can continue to make small changes (for example, Lisa offered earlier in
 this thread to add WLM suggestions in fundraising emails) but the team
 needs to start working now.

 In the long term, WMF values Wiki Loves Monuments and the many other
 projects that use Central Notice. Clearly, we need a better process to help
 coordinate Central Notice, including WMF projects like fundraising. We
 would like to work on setting up such a process, but that will require more
 work on our side. So Lisa and I are talking about how we can trim back on
 other work to make this happen.

 We would also love to work with WLM and other programs to figure out
 better ways to communicate with potential contributors. For example, if we
 asked potential contributors to give their email (as Italia already does
 http://wikilovesmonuments.wikimedia.it/), we could almost certainly
 make the process more effective and reduce banners at the same time.
 Again, though, helping with something like this will require cutting back
 elsewhere in Fundraising/Community, and so that will take some time to
 figure out.

 Hope this helps clarify the situation. Lisa and I are happy to answer more
 questions if we can.


 Thanks-

 Luis


 On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 11:42 AM, Romaine Wiki romaine.w...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hi all,

 Sad news.
 The title of this thread seems a bit hard, but that is practically the
 situation as it looks now.

 *Background*
 Wiki Loves Monuments is the yearly photo contest since 2010, organised by
 many local Wikipedia communities and local chapters. For this contest a
 banner is shown on top of Wikipedia pages in the specific countries to
 attract attention from the public to participate in enriching Wikipedia
 with photos of the local cultural heritage.

 Wiki Loves Monuments depends for at least 99% on the banner. When there
 is no banner, the uploads and results drop dramatically, as possible
 participants are not informed and can't easily find the contest site. Also
 participants need time to go on location to take photos and see the banner
 above Wikipedia afterwards to find their way back.



 *What is the situation?*
 * The fundraising team plans to have a fundraising banner in Italy during
 the month September.
 * The local team of Wiki Loves Monuments in Italy is organising the
 contest in Italy and needs a banner as well.

 As there can be shown only one banner at the time, there have been talks
 about these conflicting banners. Result: Wiki Loves Monuments get only
 37,5% of the time, the fundraising banner 62,5% of the time.

 Now you maybe think that 37,5% of the time is still large, but the
 appearances are deceptive because of the different ways the banner is used,
 and because the differences in numbers of upload throughout the month
 September. Also the banner is not shown at all during two full weeks,
 important weeks to attract participants. In the end I estimate, based on
 the usage and issues of previous years, etc, that only 10-15% of the
 uploads are made in comparison what normally would have been expected.

 This is what I would call a devastating effect.

 And this is purely because of bad planning at WMF:
 * They haven't checked which countries participated continuously the past
 years.
 * They haven't informed which countries are likely to participate.
 * And they say they can't move the fundraising banner to another month,
 but it is still a mystery why that isn't possible.

 This same issue was originally the case in two countries, but somehow it
 was possible to move it for the second country.

 This is really sad for Italy. Extra sad because of the difficult
 copyright situation in Italy, what requires the local team already to do
 much much much more work than in most other countries, just to have a
 normal contest. The Italian team does a great job this year.


 *My conclusion*
 The community is working very hard on improving and expanding the content
 of Wikipedia by organising Wiki Loves Monuments. I always thought that this
 was the number one priority of the whole Wikimedia movement. Did I made a
 wrong assumption somehow?

 But when it actually matters, the community project bears the bunt. This
 is sad, very sad.


 Please all, support the Italian team, they do a great job and deserve a
 successful contest.

 Greetings,

 Romaine



 PS: I am one of the international organisers of Wiki Loves Monuments this
 year, but this e-mail is written on my personal account only.






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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wiki Loves Monuments] Wiki Loves Monuments in Italy largely blocked by WMF fundraising

2015-08-21 Thread Romaine Wiki
I think you describe the essence of the problem: there is a big gap between
the community and the Wikimedia Foundation.

I have a long list of problems from the past years that all seem to
originate in this basic problem. The Wikimedia Foundation is too much
de-attached from the community.

At the same time I notice that since last year, Lila is trying to improve
this situation, but there is a very very long way to go to move the
Wikimedia Foundation away from the dark side of the moon.
(To prevent generalisation: I know also a lot of staff in WMF that are
closely involved in the community and doing a great job in being attached
with the community.)

Romaine


2015-08-21 22:22 GMT+02:00 Michael Peel em...@mikepeel.net:

 From my perspective, this strikes me as part of the reason why national
 organisations are well suited to running the Wikimedia fundraising
 campaigns rather than a global organisation: if WMIT was organising both
 WLM and the national fundraising campaign, then this conflict wouldn't have
 arisen / could have been resolved locally.

 Thanks,
 Mike


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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wiki Loves Monuments] Wiki Loves Monuments in Italy largely blocked by WMF fundraising

2015-08-21 Thread Romaine Wiki
If the fundraising banner was planned in November to be shown in Italy, the
problem would have been the same. Only the time could have a positive
impact.

Also then something has been missed: Wiki Loves Monuments is a sticky
project in September, already for years, as it is attached to a world wide
event of heritage days. The fundraising team should have known that this
project is organised and that organising banners for fundraising in
September is a big risk. Still this issue keeps coming up. I find it
unbelievable that after all these years of organising, WMF FR is still not
capable of acting with understanding. I call such bad planning, and naming
it such is an understatement.

Romaine

2015-08-21 22:42 GMT+02:00 Risker risker...@gmail.com:

 Given the huge amount of work, the liability and legislative issues and
 problems with transferring funds across international borders, I'm not
 persuaded; having dozens of paid fundraising teams is not cost-effective by
 any stretch of the imagination.  The process was stopped because it was
 costing more money to raise funds that way, and as a movement it's very,
 very difficult to justify the international level of fundraising in a way
 that results in much higher costs.

 Having said that, the Wikimedia movement calendar is becoming
 increasingly complex. It is inevitable that there are going to be conflicts
 between major local initiatives and major international-level initiatives;
 these don't always involve fundraising, although they're probably the most
 common group affected.  I think we really need to get better at scheduling
 events and creating a solid movement-wide calendar that identifies major
 activities, particularly those that rely significantly on site
 advertising/banners/messaging for their success.  The further in advance a
 potential conflict is identified, the more likely that good and effective
 solutions to those conflicts can be put into place.  It would be really
 helpful, for example, if the Fundraising calendar was published a year in
 advance; chapters and other groups would probably find that really useful
 in planning major local activities.

 I this specific case, there's not much time left, and so it is time to look
 for ways to lessen the impact of the scheduling conflict.

 Risker/Anne





 On 21 August 2015 at 16:22, Michael Peel em...@mikepeel.net wrote:

  From my perspective, this strikes me as part of the reason why national
  organisations are well suited to running the Wikimedia fundraising
  campaigns rather than a global organisation: if WMIT was organising both
  WLM and the national fundraising campaign, then this conflict wouldn't
 have
  arisen / could have been resolved locally.
 
  Thanks,
  Mike
 
 
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wiki Loves Monuments] Wiki Loves Monuments in Italy largely blocked by WMF fundraising

2015-08-20 Thread Romaine Wiki
This is not the first time this conflict appears, but this is the worst
outcome ever so far. In all the years I have been asking for an explanation
why it is not possible to move it, or why it is urgently to do it in
September, nothing reasonable has been provided for that. Nothing in all
those years.

If a fundraising banner has a big negative influence on a project, I think
it is time to have the community involved and have them speak out what they
think about the situation. As FR only speaks to a few people, they seem to
have the impression that they can freely decide without taking the
community in account. I think it will be time to have the community speak
out what they think in a request for comment/voting or something on Meta.
Anyone an idea or the experience how to set such up?

Romaine

2015-08-20 13:26 GMT+02:00 MF-Warburg mfwarb...@googlemail.com:

 Which is Fundraising's point? I haven't seen anything here about why WMF so
 urgently needs to request Italian donations in September.
 Am 20.08.2015 07:27 schrieb Risker risker...@gmail.com:

  I can understand the frustration that members of WMIT are expressing
 here,
  but I also see Fundraising's point.  I wonder if there are not some other
  options that could be considered.  For example, instead of a banner,
  perhaps a big bright button on the sidebar that says Upload images for
  Wiki Loves Monuments here! may be technically feasible.  It's not quite
  the equivalent of a banner, but it does address the wayfinding issue at
  least.  (I think that's possibly the biggest downside of not having the
 WLM
  banners in rotation.)
 
  Let's give ourselves permission to think outside the box a bit here; both
  of these activities are valuable and important to our movement, each of
  them have different but viable reasons for wanting to proceed during that
  specific period. There are a lot of smart people reading this mailing
 list.
  I'd like to think between the several-hundred of us we might be able to
  come up with a solution that works to accommodate both groups.
 
  Risker/Anne
 
  On 20 August 2015 at 01:19, Romaine Wiki romaine.w...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   Yes, Andrew is right. Navigation is a very important focus point of
   organising every Wiki Loves Monuments.
  
   The complexity of the navigation is that MediaWiki and the whole group
 of
   Wikimedia wikis is not designed for navigation, but designed for
 showing
   content. In the past eight years small improvements have been made in
  this
   field, but in general speaking it is still not easy to navigate for the
   majority of the people.
  
   Romaine
  
   2015-08-19 20:45 GMT+02:00 Andrea Zanni zanni.andre...@gmail.com:
  
I think Andrew is right: the WLM banner serves as a pointer, and it's
   very
easy to remember go on Wikipedia and click into the banner on the
  top.
It's much more difficult to remember the strange name of the contest
  (in
Italy it's still called Wiki Loves Monuments, even if it's
 English).
   
And of course we do not have good analytics for the banner: nobody
  knows
homw many page views there are in a single wiki per day, so we cannot
   count
the clickthroughs (which we have as the link is on a WLM landing
 page).
   
Aubrey
   
   
   
On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 6:02 PM, Andrew Gray 
  andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk
wrote:
   
 On 19 August 2015 at 14:26, Sam Klein sjkl...@hcs.harvard.edu
  wrote:
  There's a more general problem here we should fix:
 
  We already know that effectiveness of any single banner drops off
  dramatically after the first few views.  So there's rarely a
 reason
   to
 run
  a continuous banner -- certainly not if there are other banners
 to
   run.

 I think we should be cautious about using our fundraising
 experience
 to predict the efficiency of 'delayed call-to-action' banners like
  WLM
 - to my mind they seem to function in quite different roles.

 The fundraising banner is calling for an immediate action. You see
  it,
 and you either donate or you don't. If you decide not to donate,
 you
 probably won't decide to donate on seeing it tomorrow, either;
 while
 if you have donated, you're probably not going to donate again. So
  the
 banner being repeated doesn't gain us much, and it has
 progressively
 less value on the third, fourth, fifth appearances. There are
 relatively few people who see a fundraising banner and decide I'll
 sleep on it, then come back tomorrow and donate. And if they *do*,
 well - there's a donate link on every page, once they're looking
 for
 it.

 However, WLM is calling for a delayed action - go off, do
 something,
 and come back again to tell us about it.

 The most desired outcome is probably that a previously uninvolved
 person will see it, click through, think that sounds fun, and go
  off
 to take some photos - after all, it's running all month

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wiki Loves Monuments] Wiki Loves Monuments in Italy largely blocked by WMF fundraising

2015-08-19 Thread Romaine Wiki
Yes, Andrew is right. Navigation is a very important focus point of
organising every Wiki Loves Monuments.

The complexity of the navigation is that MediaWiki and the whole group of
Wikimedia wikis is not designed for navigation, but designed for showing
content. In the past eight years small improvements have been made in this
field, but in general speaking it is still not easy to navigate for the
majority of the people.

Romaine

2015-08-19 20:45 GMT+02:00 Andrea Zanni zanni.andre...@gmail.com:

 I think Andrew is right: the WLM banner serves as a pointer, and it's very
 easy to remember go on Wikipedia and click into the banner on the top.
 It's much more difficult to remember the strange name of the contest (in
 Italy it's still called Wiki Loves Monuments, even if it's English).

 And of course we do not have good analytics for the banner: nobody knows
 homw many page views there are in a single wiki per day, so we cannot count
 the clickthroughs (which we have as the link is on a WLM landing page).

 Aubrey



 On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 6:02 PM, Andrew Gray andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk
 wrote:

  On 19 August 2015 at 14:26, Sam Klein sjkl...@hcs.harvard.edu wrote:
   There's a more general problem here we should fix:
  
   We already know that effectiveness of any single banner drops off
   dramatically after the first few views.  So there's rarely a reason to
  run
   a continuous banner -- certainly not if there are other banners to run.
 
  I think we should be cautious about using our fundraising experience
  to predict the efficiency of 'delayed call-to-action' banners like WLM
  - to my mind they seem to function in quite different roles.
 
  The fundraising banner is calling for an immediate action. You see it,
  and you either donate or you don't. If you decide not to donate, you
  probably won't decide to donate on seeing it tomorrow, either; while
  if you have donated, you're probably not going to donate again. So the
  banner being repeated doesn't gain us much, and it has progressively
  less value on the third, fourth, fifth appearances. There are
  relatively few people who see a fundraising banner and decide I'll
  sleep on it, then come back tomorrow and donate. And if they *do*,
  well - there's a donate link on every page, once they're looking for
  it.
 
  However, WLM is calling for a delayed action - go off, do something,
  and come back again to tell us about it.
 
  The most desired outcome is probably that a previously uninvolved
  person will see it, click through, think that sounds fun, and go off
  to take some photos - after all, it's running all month, they can do
  it at the weekend. A few days later they come back, and want to upload
  their photos... but if the banner's not there on Wikipedia, they won't
  really know where to go. They might not remember the name (Wiki
  something?), making it hard to search for the contest, and they
  probably didn't bookmark the WLM pages. There isn't anything else on
  the page that would help to take them there, and if they're not
  involved in the projects already they probably won't know where the
  information's likely to be. If we can't make sure they can find WLM
  easily when they return, then we've wasted the original call to
  action, we've wasted the potential contributions, *and*, most
  importantly, we've wasted their time and goodwill.
 
  I think this difference in intended response styles makes it hard to
  generalise from the diminishing returns experienced on fundraising.
  Yes, a repeated banner will get progressively diminishing
  clickthroughs. But with WLM, those second clickthroughs in some ways
  provide the value to the first clickthrough - they need to return to
  make the campaign a success, which isn't really a concern for
  fundraising. We need to make sure that that channel is open and
  visible in some way when they come back.
 
  Andrew.
 
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wiki Loves Monuments] Wiki Loves Monuments in Italy largely blocked by WMF fundraising

2015-08-19 Thread Romaine Wiki
Hi!

I think one point is skipped, before this should be discussed at all: why
is it not possible to move a banner to another month?
This question needs an answer first. Each time this problem occurs,
multiple years now in different occasions, the fundraising team says they
can't move the banner, but they have never provided any reasonable
explanation for that at all.

Because of the fundraising banner, this community project and the content
of both Wikipedia and Commons experience a huge loss. What makes the loss
is worth it for the movement?

That is the core question that needs an answer first in my opinion.

Romaine

2015-08-20 7:26 GMT+02:00 Risker risker...@gmail.com:

 I can understand the frustration that members of WMIT are expressing here,
 but I also see Fundraising's point.  I wonder if there are not some other
 options that could be considered.  For example, instead of a banner,
 perhaps a big bright button on the sidebar that says Upload images for
 Wiki Loves Monuments here! may be technically feasible.  It's not quite
 the equivalent of a banner, but it does address the wayfinding issue at
 least.  (I think that's possibly the biggest downside of not having the WLM
 banners in rotation.)

 Let's give ourselves permission to think outside the box a bit here; both
 of these activities are valuable and important to our movement, each of
 them have different but viable reasons for wanting to proceed during that
 specific period. There are a lot of smart people reading this mailing list.
 I'd like to think between the several-hundred of us we might be able to
 come up with a solution that works to accommodate both groups.

 Risker/Anne

 On 20 August 2015 at 01:19, Romaine Wiki romaine.w...@gmail.com wrote:

  Yes, Andrew is right. Navigation is a very important focus point of
  organising every Wiki Loves Monuments.
 
  The complexity of the navigation is that MediaWiki and the whole group of
  Wikimedia wikis is not designed for navigation, but designed for showing
  content. In the past eight years small improvements have been made in
 this
  field, but in general speaking it is still not easy to navigate for the
  majority of the people.
 
  Romaine
 
  2015-08-19 20:45 GMT+02:00 Andrea Zanni zanni.andre...@gmail.com:
 
   I think Andrew is right: the WLM banner serves as a pointer, and it's
  very
   easy to remember go on Wikipedia and click into the banner on the
 top.
   It's much more difficult to remember the strange name of the contest
 (in
   Italy it's still called Wiki Loves Monuments, even if it's English).
  
   And of course we do not have good analytics for the banner: nobody
 knows
   homw many page views there are in a single wiki per day, so we cannot
  count
   the clickthroughs (which we have as the link is on a WLM landing page).
  
   Aubrey
  
  
  
   On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 6:02 PM, Andrew Gray 
 andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk
   wrote:
  
On 19 August 2015 at 14:26, Sam Klein sjkl...@hcs.harvard.edu
 wrote:
 There's a more general problem here we should fix:

 We already know that effectiveness of any single banner drops off
 dramatically after the first few views.  So there's rarely a reason
  to
run
 a continuous banner -- certainly not if there are other banners to
  run.
   
I think we should be cautious about using our fundraising experience
to predict the efficiency of 'delayed call-to-action' banners like
 WLM
- to my mind they seem to function in quite different roles.
   
The fundraising banner is calling for an immediate action. You see
 it,
and you either donate or you don't. If you decide not to donate, you
probably won't decide to donate on seeing it tomorrow, either; while
if you have donated, you're probably not going to donate again. So
 the
banner being repeated doesn't gain us much, and it has progressively
less value on the third, fourth, fifth appearances. There are
relatively few people who see a fundraising banner and decide I'll
sleep on it, then come back tomorrow and donate. And if they *do*,
well - there's a donate link on every page, once they're looking for
it.
   
However, WLM is calling for a delayed action - go off, do something,
and come back again to tell us about it.
   
The most desired outcome is probably that a previously uninvolved
person will see it, click through, think that sounds fun, and go
 off
to take some photos - after all, it's running all month, they can do
it at the weekend. A few days later they come back, and want to
 upload
their photos... but if the banner's not there on Wikipedia, they
 won't
really know where to go. They might not remember the name (Wiki
something?), making it hard to search for the contest, and they
probably didn't bookmark the WLM pages. There isn't anything else on
the page that would help to take them there, and if they're not
involved in the projects already

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wiki Loves Monuments] Wiki Loves Monuments in Italy largely blocked by WMF fundraising

2015-08-19 Thread Romaine Wiki
If a local community wants this, they can create such of course. But I
think most visitors from Wikipedia do not visit the Main Page.

2015-08-20 7:41 GMT+02:00 Ricordisamoa ricordisa...@openmailbox.org:

 Any reasons the WLM 'banner' can't become a Main Page panel like the ones
 on Commons?


 Il 20/08/2015 07:26, Risker ha scritto:

 I can understand the frustration that members of WMIT are expressing here,
 but I also see Fundraising's point.  I wonder if there are not some other
 options that could be considered.  For example, instead of a banner,
 perhaps a big bright button on the sidebar that says Upload images for
 Wiki Loves Monuments here! may be technically feasible.  It's not quite
 the equivalent of a banner, but it does address the wayfinding issue at
 least.  (I think that's possibly the biggest downside of not having the
 WLM
 banners in rotation.)

 Let's give ourselves permission to think outside the box a bit here; both
 of these activities are valuable and important to our movement, each of
 them have different but viable reasons for wanting to proceed during that
 specific period. There are a lot of smart people reading this mailing
 list.
 I'd like to think between the several-hundred of us we might be able to
 come up with a solution that works to accommodate both groups.

 Risker/Anne

 On 20 August 2015 at 01:19, Romaine Wiki romaine.w...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yes, Andrew is right. Navigation is a very important focus point of
 organising every Wiki Loves Monuments.

 The complexity of the navigation is that MediaWiki and the whole group of
 Wikimedia wikis is not designed for navigation, but designed for showing
 content. In the past eight years small improvements have been made in
 this
 field, but in general speaking it is still not easy to navigate for the
 majority of the people.

 Romaine

 2015-08-19 20:45 GMT+02:00 Andrea Zanni zanni.andre...@gmail.com:

 I think Andrew is right: the WLM banner serves as a pointer, and it's

 very

 easy to remember go on Wikipedia and click into the banner on the top.
 It's much more difficult to remember the strange name of the contest (in
 Italy it's still called Wiki Loves Monuments, even if it's English).

 And of course we do not have good analytics for the banner: nobody knows
 homw many page views there are in a single wiki per day, so we cannot

 count

 the clickthroughs (which we have as the link is on a WLM landing page).

 Aubrey



 On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 6:02 PM, Andrew Gray andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk
 
 wrote:

 On 19 August 2015 at 14:26, Sam Klein sjkl...@hcs.harvard.edu wrote:

 There's a more general problem here we should fix:

 We already know that effectiveness of any single banner drops off
 dramatically after the first few views.  So there's rarely a reason

 to

 run

 a continuous banner -- certainly not if there are other banners to

 run.

 I think we should be cautious about using our fundraising experience
 to predict the efficiency of 'delayed call-to-action' banners like WLM
 - to my mind they seem to function in quite different roles.

 The fundraising banner is calling for an immediate action. You see it,
 and you either donate or you don't. If you decide not to donate, you
 probably won't decide to donate on seeing it tomorrow, either; while
 if you have donated, you're probably not going to donate again. So the
 banner being repeated doesn't gain us much, and it has progressively
 less value on the third, fourth, fifth appearances. There are
 relatively few people who see a fundraising banner and decide I'll
 sleep on it, then come back tomorrow and donate. And if they *do*,
 well - there's a donate link on every page, once they're looking for
 it.

 However, WLM is calling for a delayed action - go off, do something,
 and come back again to tell us about it.

 The most desired outcome is probably that a previously uninvolved
 person will see it, click through, think that sounds fun, and go off
 to take some photos - after all, it's running all month, they can do
 it at the weekend. A few days later they come back, and want to upload
 their photos... but if the banner's not there on Wikipedia, they won't
 really know where to go. They might not remember the name (Wiki
 something?), making it hard to search for the contest, and they
 probably didn't bookmark the WLM pages. There isn't anything else on
 the page that would help to take them there, and if they're not
 involved in the projects already they probably won't know where the
 information's likely to be. If we can't make sure they can find WLM
 easily when they return, then we've wasted the original call to
 action, we've wasted the potential contributions, *and*, most
 importantly, we've wasted their time and goodwill.

 I think this difference in intended response styles makes it hard to
 generalise from the diminishing returns experienced on fundraising.
 Yes, a repeated banner will get progressively diminishing
 clickthroughs. But with WLM, those

[Wikimedia-l] Wiki Loves Monuments in Italy largely blocked by WMF fundraising

2015-08-18 Thread Romaine Wiki
Hi all,

Sad news.
The title of this thread seems a bit hard, but that is practically the
situation as it looks now.

*Background*
Wiki Loves Monuments is the yearly photo contest since 2010, organised by
many local Wikipedia communities and local chapters. For this contest a
banner is shown on top of Wikipedia pages in the specific countries to
attract attention from the public to participate in enriching Wikipedia
with photos of the local cultural heritage.

Wiki Loves Monuments depends for at least 99% on the banner. When there is
no banner, the uploads and results drop dramatically, as possible
participants are not informed and can't easily find the contest site. Also
participants need time to go on location to take photos and see the banner
above Wikipedia afterwards to find their way back.



*What is the situation?*
* The fundraising team plans to have a fundraising banner in Italy during
the month September.
* The local team of Wiki Loves Monuments in Italy is organising the contest
in Italy and needs a banner as well.

As there can be shown only one banner at the time, there have been talks
about these conflicting banners. Result: Wiki Loves Monuments get only
37,5% of the time, the fundraising banner 62,5% of the time.

Now you maybe think that 37,5% of the time is still large, but the
appearances are deceptive because of the different ways the banner is used,
and because the differences in numbers of upload throughout the month
September. Also the banner is not shown at all during two full weeks,
important weeks to attract participants. In the end I estimate, based on
the usage and issues of previous years, etc, that only 10-15% of the
uploads are made in comparison what normally would have been expected.

This is what I would call a devastating effect.

And this is purely because of bad planning at WMF:
* They haven't checked which countries participated continuously the past
years.
* They haven't informed which countries are likely to participate.
* And they say they can't move the fundraising banner to another month, but
it is still a mystery why that isn't possible.

This same issue was originally the case in two countries, but somehow it
was possible to move it for the second country.

This is really sad for Italy. Extra sad because of the difficult copyright
situation in Italy, what requires the local team already to do much much
much more work than in most other countries, just to have a normal contest.
The Italian team does a great job this year.


*My conclusion*
The community is working very hard on improving and expanding the content
of Wikipedia by organising Wiki Loves Monuments. I always thought that this
was the number one priority of the whole Wikimedia movement. Did I made a
wrong assumption somehow?

But when it actually matters, the community project bears the bunt. This is
sad, very sad.


Please all, support the Italian team, they do a great job and deserve a
successful contest.

Greetings,

Romaine



PS: I am one of the international organisers of Wiki Loves Monuments this
year, but this e-mail is written on my personal account only.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wiki Loves Monuments] Wiki Loves Monuments in Italy largely blocked by WMF fundraising

2015-08-18 Thread Romaine Wiki
Hi Antanana,

And I forgot to mention, this same issue existed in 2014 as well, with also
there the downside effects.

This subject is of banners has been discussed internally with the local
Wiki Loves Monuments team, after I tried to gave some insights in the
matter. I think this is done so because me and others have always thought
and assumed that it is possible to find a solution with understanding of
both sides. With these outcomes I think I can safely say that that
assumption and thought can't be considered realistic.

I think it would be better in future to have the community decide somehow
how they perceive this matter. After all, they create the content of
Wikipedia and bear the bunt as result of it.

Romaine


2015-08-18 20:50 GMT+02:00 attolippip attolip...@gmail.com:

 Sad news indeed.
 Is there a public discussion about this issue anywhere?
 Can we get the WMF comments about it publicly?

 Best regards,
 antanana
 ED of Wikimedia Ukraine

 2015-08-18 21:42 GMT+03:00 Romaine Wiki romaine.w...@gmail.com:

 Hi all,

 Sad news.
 The title of this thread seems a bit hard, but that is practically the
 situation as it looks now.

 *Background*
 Wiki Loves Monuments is the yearly photo contest since 2010, organised by
 many local Wikipedia communities and local chapters. For this contest a
 banner is shown on top of Wikipedia pages in the specific countries to
 attract attention from the public to participate in enriching Wikipedia
 with photos of the local cultural heritage.

 Wiki Loves Monuments depends for at least 99% on the banner. When there
 is no banner, the uploads and results drop dramatically, as possible
 participants are not informed and can't easily find the contest site. Also
 participants need time to go on location to take photos and see the banner
 above Wikipedia afterwards to find their way back.



 *What is the situation?*
 * The fundraising team plans to have a fundraising banner in Italy during
 the month September.
 * The local team of Wiki Loves Monuments in Italy is organising the
 contest in Italy and needs a banner as well.

 As there can be shown only one banner at the time, there have been talks
 about these conflicting banners. Result: Wiki Loves Monuments get only
 37,5% of the time, the fundraising banner 62,5% of the time.

 Now you maybe think that 37,5% of the time is still large, but the
 appearances are deceptive because of the different ways the banner is used,
 and because the differences in numbers of upload throughout the month
 September. Also the banner is not shown at all during two full weeks,
 important weeks to attract participants. In the end I estimate, based on
 the usage and issues of previous years, etc, that only 10-15% of the
 uploads are made in comparison what normally would have been expected.

 This is what I would call a devastating effect.

 And this is purely because of bad planning at WMF:
 * They haven't checked which countries participated continuously the past
 years.
 * They haven't informed which countries are likely to participate.
 * And they say they can't move the fundraising banner to another month,
 but it is still a mystery why that isn't possible.

 This same issue was originally the case in two countries, but somehow it
 was possible to move it for the second country.

 This is really sad for Italy. Extra sad because of the difficult
 copyright situation in Italy, what requires the local team already to do
 much much much more work than in most other countries, just to have a
 normal contest. The Italian team does a great job this year.


 *My conclusion*
 The community is working very hard on improving and expanding the content
 of Wikipedia by organising Wiki Loves Monuments. I always thought that this
 was the number one priority of the whole Wikimedia movement. Did I made a
 wrong assumption somehow?

 But when it actually matters, the community project bears the bunt. This
 is sad, very sad.


 Please all, support the Italian team, they do a great job and deserve a
 successful contest.

 Greetings,

 Romaine



 PS: I am one of the international organisers of Wiki Loves Monuments this
 year, but this e-mail is written on my personal account only.






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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Superprotect's first birthday

2015-08-11 Thread Romaine Wiki
So far I know it has only be used once after the occasion, see:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Superprotect

If anyone knows another occasion, I would like to ask to report this usage
at this talk page to keep an overview in future.

Greetings,
Romaine

2015-08-11 20:28 GMT+02:00 Magnus Manske magnusman...@googlemail.com:

 Out of curiosity, was it ever used again after that initial action?

 On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 6:13 PM Laurentius laurentius.w...@gmail.com
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  Il giorno mer, 12/08/2015 alle 01.11 +0900, Hong, Yongmin ha scritto:
   It has been a year (and a day) since the gerrit 153302 [1] has been
   merged
   and deployed to the dewiki.
 
  And it's high time it got removed.
 
  Laurentius
 
 
 
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[Wikimedia-l] Preparations international for Wiki Loves Monuments started: info for local organisers

2015-08-08 Thread Romaine Wiki
Hello all!

At the end of this month Wiki Loves Monuments is organised for the 6th
time! To make that possible I am as in previous years responsible for the
upload wizard and the CentralNotice banner.

To make it easier for local organisers, I have created a page about what
the international team expects from the local team. This is described on:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2015/Organise

 Please read the requirements! 
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2015/Organise#Requirements_for_local_teams


For who Wiki Loves Monuments has organised before, don't forget:
* Add the name of your country/area here:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2015/Participating_countries
* Add there as well how the international team can reach your local team.
* Add your landing page here:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2015/Landing_pages

Deadline of sending in the 10 winning photos is again 1 November!

Let's make a great contest!

Romaine
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[Wikimedia-l] Your chapter, user group, or thematic organization at Wikimania

2015-07-09 Thread Romaine Wiki
Hi all,

Already some chapters and a user group have created a page for them on the
Wikimania 2015 wiki. There they list who come to Wikimania, what talks they
give, materials they are presenting, presentation of the organisation,
office hours, and so on.

An overview page is created at
https://wikimania2015.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_affiliates

Add your created pages to this category:
https://wikimania2015.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikimedia_affiliates_in_Wikimania

Thanks!
Romaine
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Ending discrimination by language

2015-06-28 Thread Romaine Wiki
Hi!

I do not think language discrimination is the only possible discrimination.
I would prefer and consider it better if the international organisation
would be located next to the office of a local chapter. Then a different
perspective is possible.

Also I would like to suggest to have an WMF office on the various
continents: one in North America, one in South America, one in Europe, one
in Africa and one in Asia. I think only then it is really possible to to
understand the differences between the continents/regions in the world and
to be closer to the volunteers themselves. (And this can be in the same
building as a local chapter.)

In Brussels there is an office used/paid by the Wikimedia EU policy group,
the place where the whole of Europe meets, in multiple ways. Also situated
in the middle of four of the most active chapters in Europe and relatively
close to Jimbo. (I think ideal for a WMF office as well, but I may have a
COI here.)

So a co-headquarters in Belgium would be a great idea.

Romaine


2015-06-28 14:18 GMT+02:00 James Salsman jsals...@gmail.com:

 GerardM,

 Which do you think would end more language discrimination: a WMF
 co-headquarters in Belgium, moving the WEF to Germany, or a Simple language
 Wikipedia for the top-25 languages?
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wiki Loves Monuments] Does this article exist in your language?

2015-06-28 Thread Romaine Wiki
Hello all,

Great news! In the mean while on 3 different Wikipedias an article has been
written about Freedom of Panorama: Croatian, Lithuanian and Esperanto.

The European languages without an article are now:
* Icelandic
* Norwegian
* Danish
* Belarusian
* Romanian
* Albanian
* Turkish
* Maltese
* Welsh

Who knows anyone who speaks one of these languages? Please ash him/her!

Thank you!

Romaine



2015-06-28 1:22 GMT+02:00 Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk:

 On 27 June 2015 at 11:39, Romaine Wiki romaine.w...@gmail.com wrote:

  Any other European languages missing an article about it?

 Welsh (Cymraeg) doesn't have one.

 Don't forget that many non-Euorpean languages have significant
 numbers of speakers in Europe: Bengali, Hindi, etc.

 --
 Andy Mabbett
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[Wikimedia-l] Does this article exist in your language?

2015-06-27 Thread Romaine Wiki
Hi all,

Does your language Wikipedia have an article about Freedom of Panorama
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_panorama?

This public right is often not as such recognised, also often unknown or
considered naturally, but enables mankind in many countries to freely
publicize pictures of modern buildings and public art.

I think it would be good if Wikipedia has an article in many many languages
about this public right, so that the public can be informed about this
subject.

Does your language Wikipedia cover this topic?

Greetings,
Romaine
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Does this article exist in your language?

2015-06-27 Thread Romaine Wiki
Which European languages do not have an article about this subject?

* Icelandic
* Norwegian
* Danish
* Lithuanian
* Belarusian
* Croatian
* Romanian
* Albanian
* Turkish
* Maltese

Any other European languages missing an article about it?

Do we know users who speak one of these languages and can write/translate
an article about this subject of Freedom of Panorama?

Romaine



2015-06-27 12:28 GMT+02:00 MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com:

 Romaine Wiki wrote:
 Does your language Wikipedia have an article about Freedom of Panorama
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_panorama?
 
 This public right is often not as such recognised, also often unknown or
 considered naturally, but enables mankind in many countries to freely
 publicize pictures of modern buildings and public art.
 
 I think it would be good if Wikipedia has an article in many many
 languages about this public right, so that the public can be informed
 about this subject.
 
 Does your language Wikipedia cover this topic?

 Hi.

 Yep, it looks like my language Wikipedia (English) has an article.

 And https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q918113#sitelinks-wikipedia tracks
 which other Wikipedias have similar articles. :-)

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[Wikimedia-l] Thousands of images on Wikipedia and Commons in danger, action needed

2015-06-21 Thread Romaine Wiki
Hi all,

This concerns all the editors and readers in the European Union and those
in other European countries as well (copying is possible).

*Subject*
Copyrights reform in Europe going in the wrong direction, damaging
Wikipedia.

*What is going on?*
In the European Parliament currently a proposal (amendment) is submitted
that will restrict Freedom of Panorama in Europe.
This means: you will be no longer allowed to upload images from modern
buildings and works of public art on Commons and not allowed to use those
images on Wikipedia.

Also if Freedom of Panorama is only allowed for Non Commercial purposes
only, this is a problem for Wikipedia!

*Some details*?
It concerns the amendment AM421 proposed by Cavada and passed in the JURI
committee.

*When is the voting about the amendment?*
Thursday 9th July

But we have one chance only!


*What can we do about this?*

   - Forward this e-mail to anyone who should know about this.
   - Talk to the Members of the European Parliament (MEPs) in your country.
   Especially the members of the EPP, SD and ALDE groups. -
   
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_members_of_the_European_Parliament,_2014%E2%80%9319
   - Communicate this issue to users in your local community.
   - Publicise a press release about this, write about it on your
   website/blog, talk to the media how this can damage Wikipedia, etc.
   - Use social media: Twitter, Facebook, and so on...
   - Twitter about it and retweet them. Suggestions:
  https://twitter.com/Wikimedia_BE/status/611000943908384768 -
  https://twitter.com/Wikimedia_BE/status/610984311853064193 -
  https://twitter.com/dimi_z/status/610792189631811584
  - Twitter also directly to the Members of the European Parliament
  directly and ask them if they want to turn Wikipedia into black.


Also there will be a CentralNotice banner to inform our readers. The
CentralNotice banner will lead to a landing page, which is at:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_Panorama_in_Europe_in_2015

More information will be on:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_Panorama_in_Europe_in_2015/Learn_more

A FAQ will be on:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_Panorama_in_Europe_in_2015/FAQ
(or combined with the Learn more page)


*How can I help with the campaign?*
Go to:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Freedom_of_Panorama_2015/Proposed_messages
and help with getting the texts of the banner, landing page and Learn more
page ready.

1. Banner:
* What should the text be of the title?
* What should the text be of the underline?
2. Landing page:
* What information should be on the landing page?
* What Twitter/Facebook/Google+ links do we place?
3. Learn more page:
* What information should be mentioned on the *Learn more* page?
* What actions would we recommend readers to take?
* Anything else?

If the banner, landing page and Learn more page are ready, they can be
translated on Tuesday 23 June to the various European languages. Also local
Wikipedia pages can be created for it.


*Where is the coordination?*
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Freedom_of_Panorama_2015
To have an overview it would be handy if you sign up for your country/area.

Collect here also your actions like press releases, tweets, Facebook posts,
etc. Those can be useful to read and to see where some action is missing or
needed.


*You need more information?*
Read the Signpost article:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2015-06-17/Three_weeks_to_save_freedom_of_panorama_in_Europe


*Other suggestions?*
Let us know! Add suggestions at:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Freedom_of_Panorama_2015

Thanks!

Romaine
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[Wikimedia-l] OpenCon conference in Brussels, sign up before 22 June

2015-06-12 Thread Romaine Wiki
Hello all,

On 14-16 November the OpenCon 2015 conference is organised in Brussels.
This conference is about Open Access, Open Education and Open Data, which
is practically the same subject as the one of the Wikimedia movement, only
from a different perspective. Therefore I think it is good to support this
conference and visit it.

If you want to attend, sign up before 22 June: http://opencon2015.org/attend

Greetings,
Romaine
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[Wikimedia-l] Evaluation by WMF of Wiki Loves Monuments is failing to understand the community

2015-05-06 Thread Romaine Wiki
Hi all,

In the past months the Wikimedia Foundation has been writing an evaluation
about Wiki Loves Monuments. [1]

At such it is fine that WMF is writing an evaluation, however they fail in
actual understanding Wiki Loves Monuments, and that is shown in the
evaluation report.

As a result on the Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list a discussion grows
about the various problems the evaluation has.

As the Learning and Evaluation team at the Wikimedia Foundation already had
released the first Programs Reports for Wiki Loves Monuments, we are now
put as fait accompli with this evaluation report.

Therefore I am writing here so that the rest of the worldwide Wikimedia
community is informed that this is not going right.

Wiki Loves Monuments is not just a bunch of uploads done in September, the
report is too simplified without actual understanding how the community is
doing this project.


Romaine



[1]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Evaluation/Evaluation_reports/2015/Wiki_Loves_Monuments
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[Wikimedia-l] 50 months in GLAM search for volunteers to reach out to undiscovered countries

2015-04-15 Thread Romaine Wiki
Hello all!

Every month the newsletter *This Month in GLAM
http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/This_Month_in_GLAM* is published in
what various chapters, volunteers, users and GLAMs write about stories and
experiences in what galleries, libraries, archives, museums, and various
other institutions and organisations work together with Wikipedia/Wikimedia
or open up their collections or data and release them to the public domain
or under a free license.

A lot of those stories and experiences are described in the newsletter, but
those originate mostly from North America and Europe, while the newsletter
is intended to give an overview of GLAM stories from all over the world, as
all of them are worth telling and sharing. How can we reach out more to
Africa, Asia and South America?

Therefore I am looking for volunteers who can help me/us with contacting
chapters, GLAM organisers, Wikipedians in Residence, and others who are
willing to share their stories and and experiences. Who wants to help
reaching out?

How can you help?

   - Inform chapters and volunteers about the existence of the monthly
   newsletter.
   - Contact GLAM organisers and ask them to write a report about their
   activities.
   - Search for releases as open data or releases of text or media under a free
   license https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_license and write about
   them.
   - Write about your experiences in organising offline activities and
   collaborations with other organisations.
   - Communicate about the newsletter, share it with your colleagues, with
   other volunteers and inform GLAMs about the existence of the newsletter
   where they can read about what other organisations do.

Who wants to help out?

If you want to help, you can start right away.


Since today we also have a section for Wikidata  GLAMs. The first edition
of this report will published in the coming newsletter and you can add more
information at
https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/April_2015/Contents/Wikidata_report


I am also happy to say that the newsletter *This Month in GLAM* has been
published 50 times!
Congratulations all!
Since December 2010 Rock drum published a monthly newsletter what I took
over from him in November 2012. We have maintained the newsletter, but we
couldn't do this without the Wikimedia community who has written the
contents of the newsletter. So, thank you all for writing and I hope you
will continue to share your experiences and stories with the next 50
editions!

As the newsletter is no fifty editions young, I think this is a good moment
to start with a new logo. The new logo should look more like the general
GLAM WIKI logo style: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:GLAM-WIKI.png
I am looking for someone who can help me with making a new logo that has a
similar style as GLAM-WIKI. Who can help me?


Thanks!

Romaine



publisher of

*This Month in GLAM*
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Join the Wikimedia strategy consultation

2015-02-23 Thread Romaine Wiki
I think it is great that this is organised this way. To me it sounds a good
idea to have periodical this kind of consultations. It is a dialogue with
the community.

Romaine

2015-02-24 1:56 GMT+01:00 Maggie Dennis mden...@wikimedia.org:

 You could be on to something there, Craig. :) I think it's fair to say that
 somebody might change his mind in five years for all kinds of reasons -
 including being asked nicely. This process is obviously geared to differ
 widely from the last. Hopefully it will be a good approach for everyone.

 In terms of the nature of the conversation, it is about the future of the
 movement. There's already quite a lot of feedback on the talk page from
 people who seem happy to discuss exactly that. If you want to join in
 specifically to share your thoughts on the future of the Wikimedia
 Foundation, MZ, that would be welcome, too.

 Maggie


 On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 7:52 PM, Craig Franklin cfrank...@halonetwork.net
 
 wrote:

  On 24 February 2015 at 09:40, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote:
 
   Philippe Beaudette wrote:
   Five years ago, I was part of the work on a strategic plan for the
   Wikimedia movement.  Much has changed since then.  Now, I’m back...and
   we’re working on strategic direction again.  :-)
  
   Hi.
  
   I distinctly remember you swearing not to be involved in the next
   strategic plan. I may even have logs of such statements. What has
  changed?
  
  I'm guessing that Philippe's boss has informed him that he's going to be
  working on it whether he likes it or not ;-)
 
  Cheers,
  Craig
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] statistics of usage of wikimedia project per language used in the interface

2015-02-05 Thread Romaine Wiki
For Belgium I would like to know something different. Belgium doesn't have
a primary language, but have Dutch, French, German and English. All these
Wikipedia have other countries with a larger population where they speak
the various languages. What would be interesting for us is to know what
subjects are visited most in Belgium. This would be interesting per
language, but also the languages combined (through interwiki
links/Wikidata).

Romaine


2015-02-04 19:01 GMT+01:00 Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com:

 charles andrès (WMCH), 04/02/2015 14:25:

 Is there a way to know how many people use Wikipedia per interface
 language?


 No.

  Said in other words, I want to know how many people display the Wikimedia
 project interface in the different version of German and Alemannisch.


 Until https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T58464 is fixed (hopefully in
 this decade), the requests with non-default language are negligible.* What
 makes you think that you need such a level of precision and
 https://stats.wikimedia.org/EN/TablesPageViewsMonthlyCombined.htm is not
 enough?

 Once the use case for such precise numbers is clarified, probably we can
 extract exact data with a method similar to https://phabricator.wikimedia.
 org/T65416 after it's fixed (hopefully this year; the bug has made
 localisation and new subdomain requests practically impossible or
 unfeasible in dozens languages, for many months now).

 Nemo

 (*) Even considering the sum of requests with uselang parameter** and of
 registered users with a non-default language choice in preferences.
 (**) Even in Commons, despite all the uselang-specific incoming links and
 the language selection gadget.


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[Wikimedia-l] New software; Gendergap; FOSDEM; Government collaboration

2015-02-02 Thread Romaine Wiki
Hi all,

The past weekend was great! Wikimedia was at FOSDEM, the Free and Open
Source Software Developers' European Meeting, organised as the university
ULB in Brussels, Belgium! We had there a stand with flyers about Wikipedia,
Wikimedia, Wikimedia Belgium, and a lot of goodies.

In the Wikimedia movement we often discuss the Gendergap, as one of the
gaps we have. Wikipedia/Wikimedia looks very much likes FOSDEM, but there
the Gendergap is even larger. Wikipedia/Wikimedia needs a more social
development, we need software which enables users to form groups in an easy
way. The female contributors to Wikipedia do like two things: having in
person meetings to socialize with other editors, and second they need more
social software. The education extension is a primitive form of what is
needed. We need an extension where users easily can form groups (namespace
Groups: or something, used by an extension), where they easily can see the
recent changes of edits of group members only, to be able to actively
interact with other group members and having a long term participation in
Wikipedia. Having software where users, interest groups or a group of
editors from an external organisation can work together.

To translate it for the tech community: Wikipedia needs a kind of
*phabricator* with groups, tasks, assignments, and so on, but then for on
Wikipedia itself.

Yes, Wikipedia is not a social network, but we need to create an
environment in what we enable people to have a collaboration on a more
visible way (if people want to).

That is my clear conclusion after this conference where I spoke with a lot
of women about editing on Wikipedia, but also based on many project of the
past years we organised.


At FOSDEM I also spoke with someone from the Dutch government who is
working on creating an open source free licensed dictionary for words that
are used in specific parts of the government and they like to do a project
with Wikimedia!
They also like to re-use the data from Wiktionary, but they experienced
that that was a bit difficult. So a large donation of words for Wiktionary
is on its way!


If anyone is interested to go to next years FOSDEM and want to help at the
stand, where we also like to include more information about MediaWiki, let
us know!

Romaine
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[Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Project Wiki Loves Art in Belgium

2015-01-22 Thread Romaine Wiki
Hello all,

Hereby I like to announce the project Wiki Loves Art in Belgium.

In November we had a meeting with a museum and we noticed that they were
very enthusiastic about Wikipedia/Wikimedia, but they experienced it as
difficult and maybe dangerous to open up their collection. This relatively
closed attitude appears to be not unique, but often occurring among Belgian
cultural institutions, compared with other countries, as we understood from
various organisations in the open knowledge sector.

Therefore we have thought about how to work together with cultural
institutions and we came up with Wiki Loves Art. This project has been
organised earlier in various countries, and in 2009 also in the
Netherlands. A Dutch team is currently working on organising Wiki Loves Art
in 2016 again, and that gave us the inspiration to start with the
organisation in Belgium as well.

Wiki Loves Art is a photo contest in what participants visit the museums,
galleries, archives and libraries which have determined a part of their
collection to be photographed and published under a free license. Wiki
Loves Art gives participating photographers often a unique possibility to
take photos in a cultural institution and/or to visit an organisation
behind the scenes. This has resulted in other Wiki Loves Art projects in
many photos that are widely used on various Wikipedias. For cultural
institutions this project gives the opportunity to collaborate with
Wikipedia/Wikimedia in a save way, without having opening the doors of
their entire collections, and show a part of their collection with
relatively little costs.

In an organisational point of view the project is intended to make the
Belgiumgap less wide and the availability will increase the coverage of
Belgian art on Wikipedia. In comparison with other countries, relatively
less articles have been written about subjects in Belgium in the various
language versions of Wikipedia. This project tries to stimulate to fill
this gap and that Belgian art and more is better visible and described on
Wikipedia.

Wiki Loves Art is a project under the flag of Wikimedia Belgium, but is a
joint project in what we work together with several organisations with a
long-term expertise in working with cultural institutions and/or open
knowledge projects. Together with them we had last week a meeting and
agreed on how we want to organise Wiki Loves Art in Belgium.

We need to start in time as the project is very labour intensive with much
time spend on communication with the various cultural institutions. The
Dutch team has therefore highly recommended to hire someone for one or two
days a week during the project to be able to manage all the communication
and organisational needs. We are also going to set up a website, print
flyers and leaflets, and after the contest we organise a jury to judge the
photos and organise a prize giving ceremony.

Therefore we created a grant request at:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:PEG/WM_BE/Wiki_Loves_Art_2016

If there are any suggestions or feedback, please let us know.

The project will be brought in at the General Assembly coming Saturday.

If you are interested in volunteering as part of the organisational team,
let us know!

The project page can be found at
https://be.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiki_Loves_Art_2016


Kind regards,

Romaine
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[Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia wins Erasmusprize 2015

2015-01-15 Thread Romaine Wiki
http://www.erasmusprijs.org/?page=Erasmusprijs

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erasmus_Prize
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[Wikimedia-l] Invitation for the General Assembly of Wikimedia Belgium

2015-01-09 Thread Romaine Wiki
Hello all,

On 24 January 2015 Wikimedia Belgium organises her first General Assembly.
The assembly is open for members and volunteers on Wikipedia and other
sister projects. The main subject of the meeting is the budget of Wikimedia
Belgium.

* Location: Brussels
* More information about the budget is on Meta, reactions are welcome on
the talk page of the grant request.
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:PEG/WM_BE/Budget_2015_H1
* More information about the General Assembly will follow on
https://be.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetings

Kind regards,
Romaine
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Honorary degree for Wikipedia + meeting

2015-01-08 Thread Romaine Wiki
Hello all,

On Friday 16 January 2015 Wikipedia will receive in the person of Jimmy
Wales a honorary doctorate in Maastricht, the Netherlands.

He will receive this during the Dies Natalis of Maastricht University. The
ceremony starts at 15:00 in the St.Janskerk (Minderbroedersberg). Attendees
must be there at 14:45.
After the Dies Natalis there is a reception organized by Maastricht
University.

If anyone wishes to visit the Dies Natalis and needs more information,
contact me. You need to register your presence in a form on the website of
the university!

Jimmy has that day a busy schedule (including a lecture for students) and
is not able to have a wikimeet this day. Photos of the event will be
published on Commons.


On Thursday 15 January Jimmy is in Amsterdam for a symposium. After the
symposium we have organised a wikimeet in this building:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waag,_Amsterdam
(It is said to be the oldest remaining non-religious building in Amsterdam.)

The meeting starts at 20:00. You can sign up to be present in the section
Ja, ik kom! (= Yes, I come!) at
https://nl.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimeet_in_Amsterdam_met_Jimmy_Wales

If you need more information, you can contact me.

See you next week!

Romaine





2014-11-17 23:01 GMT+01:00 Romaine Wiki romaine.w...@gmail.com:

 Hi all,

 A local newspaper in the Netherlands had today as headline:
 Eredocteraat voor Timmermans en Wikipedia

 Translated: Honory degree for Timmermans and Wikipedia


 * Who is coming to Maastricht?
 * Can we organize a wikimeet that day in Maastricht?

 Romaine



 Rough translation of the newspaper:

 Maastricht University (UM) awarded an honorary doctorate to Frans
 Timmermans and the founder of Wikipedia, Jimmy Wales. They will be honored
 for the exceptional contributions they, directly or indirectly, have made
 to academic education and research.

 Commissioner Frans Timmermans is praised for his great contributions to both
 European and international relations. The American Jimmy Wales Wikipedia
 has established a platform accessible to everyone, which (in particular) for
 students not to imagine that it does not exist as infinite source of
 information. The honorary doctorates will be awarded during the official
 celebration of Dies Natalis, which takes place on 16 January 2015 at Sint
 Janskerk in Maastricht. Besides Timmermans and Wales, are also academics
 Michelle Craske (nominated by the Faculty of Psychology and Neuroscience) and
 Wolfgang Wahlster (nominated by the Faculty of Humanities and Sciences)
 awarded an honorary doctorate.




 Original in Dutch below:

 Eredocteraat voor Timmermans en Wikipedia

 De Universiteit Maastricht (UM) reikt een eredoctoraat uit aan Frans
 Timmermans en de oprichter van Wikipedia, Jimmy Wales. Zij worden gehuldigd
 voor de uitzonderlijke bijdragen die zij, direct of indirect, hebben
 geleverd aan academisch onderwijs en onderzoek.

 Eurocommissaris Frans Timmermans wordt geprezen om zijn grote bijdragen
 aan zowel Europese als internationale relaties. De Amerikaan Jimmy Wales
 heeft met Wikipedia een voor iedereen toegankelijk platform opgericht, dat
 (in het bijzonder) voor studenten niet meer weg te denken is als oneindige
 bron van informatie. De eredoctoraten worden uitgereikt tijdens de
 officiële viering van de Dies Natalis, die plaatsvindt op 16 januari 2015
 in de Sint Janskerk te Maastricht. Naast Timmermand en Wales worden tevens
 academici Michelle Craske (genomineerd door de Faculty of Psychology and
 Neuroscience) en Wolfgang Wahlster (genomineerd door de Faculty of
 Humanities and Sciences) onderscheiden met een eredoctoraat.






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Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF is shutting down grantmaking for good projects for 3 months for no reason

2015-01-03 Thread Romaine Wiki
Hello Jane,

Sorry, but I think you miss the problem here.

As I said before, I am fine with more projects that improve the coverage of
so-called female topics, but not if this is damaging the projects which do
not aim for such.

I hope this campaign in this form is cancelled and witdrawn and that never
ever such situation appears again. This way of working is damaging the
trust in WMF, discouraging many volunteers, worsening projects, etc.

Having a Gendergap campaign in this form is NOT in line with the vision the
Wikimedia movement has.

 The current campaign is scheduled to be one of hopefully many, targeted
at the community in order to generate themed proposals.

If it was really targeted at the Wikimedia community, it would not have
excluded other projects.

I propose everyone to refuse to take part in this as this is a move in the
wrong direction.

And how WLM to attract more female particpation? By having a special
category for pink buildings.
Under this condition, a question as such can't be taken seriously.

Romaine














2015-01-03 14:58 GMT+01:00 Jane Darnell jane...@gmail.com:

 As a member of the IEG committee I am happy to say that there is no need to
 panic. WLM is highly successful project and no one is talking about
 shutting it down, or any other project for that matter. The current
 campaign is scheduled to be one of hopefully many, targeted at the
 community in order to generate themed proposals. The current growth of
 highly diverse and inspirational proposals takes increasingly more energy
 to manage, judge, and maintain. By introducing a three-month long theme, it
 is hoped that the following will occur:
 1) Grant committee members in their voluntary role as proposal reviewers
 and community sponsors will experience less burn-out in managing proposals
 as their will be more cross pollination per cohort of proposers and their
 proposals.
 2) A targeted campaign to attract proposals will enable easier translation
 across projects if the target audience can be identified in advance
 3) A targeted campaign will attract more volunteer committee members to
 manage proposals, hopefully attracting local experts in various Wikimedia
 projects.

 The Gendergap will be the first theme. I think it's a great idea! How can
 WLM attract more female participation? Any ideas?

 On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 11:26 AM, Romaine Wiki romaine.w...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Hi all,
 
  Some disturbing news entered my mailbox the past days. The grant making
  team is going to shut down the grantmaking process for Project and Event
  Grants (PEG) and Individual Engagement Grants (IEG) for three full
 months!
 
  They have decided that they want to focus only on a specific strategic
  priority: the gender gap, and that all other good projects are refused
 for
  3 months (February-April).
 
  Having more attention to a strategic priority is fine to me. Having more
  attention to the problem of the gender gap, sounds good to me as such, we
  can use much more projects and content in those areas. But that does not
  mean that many many volunteers who are organizing other projects should
  become the victim of other projects.
 
  This is a negative signal to all those volunteers who are currently
 working
  on project plans to be submitted in February, March and April. Good
  projects to be ignored, just because the WMF think those are less
  important. They say this is a positive campaign, but this sounds as a
  negative campaign to me. This discourages many volunteers in doing
  projects.
 
  And even worse: this is only to be generally announced 2 weeks before
 that
  period of shutting down starts! (this sounds like a joke, sadly it isn't)
 
  To organize a good project volunteers (yes, we are still unpaid! and
  organize these projects in our spare time!) we need the time to
 communicate
  well with all our partners and sponsors, and need the time to come up
 with
  a good project plan with a stable basis. Rushing a project in just a
 couple
  of weeks time is very unpleasant and does not help in getting a good
  quality project. And announcing it two weeks before the period indicates
  that organizers aren't taken seriously (enough).
 
  For example, we are currently planning to organize Wiki Loves Monuments
 in
  2015 again, the world wide contest to have a better documentation and
  better display of all the cultural monuments worldwide, recognised as
  largest photo contest in the world by Guinness World Records. We are
  currently working on forming a team and want to have a good stable plan
 to
  be submitted within some weeks, but now we need to rush. And yes we need
 to
  start in January/February or it will be too late to organize it properly.
 
  Also all the national teams of Wiki Loves Monuments, the international
 team
  recommend all the national teams to start in January/February, to have a
  proper organisation together with various local partners and sponsors,
 but
  now all these teams

[Wikimedia-l] WMF is shutting down grantmaking for good projects for 3 months for no reason

2015-01-03 Thread Romaine Wiki
Hi all,

Some disturbing news entered my mailbox the past days. The grant making
team is going to shut down the grantmaking process for Project and Event
Grants (PEG) and Individual Engagement Grants (IEG) for three full months!

They have decided that they want to focus only on a specific strategic
priority: the gender gap, and that all other good projects are refused for
3 months (February-April).

Having more attention to a strategic priority is fine to me. Having more
attention to the problem of the gender gap, sounds good to me as such, we
can use much more projects and content in those areas. But that does not
mean that many many volunteers who are organizing other projects should
become the victim of other projects.

This is a negative signal to all those volunteers who are currently working
on project plans to be submitted in February, March and April. Good
projects to be ignored, just because the WMF think those are less
important. They say this is a positive campaign, but this sounds as a
negative campaign to me. This discourages many volunteers in doing projects.

And even worse: this is only to be generally announced 2 weeks before that
period of shutting down starts! (this sounds like a joke, sadly it isn't)

To organize a good project volunteers (yes, we are still unpaid! and
organize these projects in our spare time!) we need the time to communicate
well with all our partners and sponsors, and need the time to come up with
a good project plan with a stable basis. Rushing a project in just a couple
of weeks time is very unpleasant and does not help in getting a good
quality project. And announcing it two weeks before the period indicates
that organizers aren't taken seriously (enough).

For example, we are currently planning to organize Wiki Loves Monuments in
2015 again, the world wide contest to have a better documentation and
better display of all the cultural monuments worldwide, recognised as
largest photo contest in the world by Guinness World Records. We are
currently working on forming a team and want to have a good stable plan to
be submitted within some weeks, but now we need to rush. And yes we need to
start in January/February or it will be too late to organize it properly.

Also all the national teams of Wiki Loves Monuments, the international team
recommend all the national teams to start in January/February, to have a
proper organisation together with various local partners and sponsors, but
now all these teams are delayed for three months.

And a personal project of mine in Belgium, I am planning to organize Wiki
Loves Art in Belgium, together with various partners and sponsors. We
intent to start in February, but now have to rush to get such done.

By the way: did you know there is a Belgium Gap? Belgian subjects are
relatively less and worse described on the various Wikipedias.


This shutting down results in:
* Discouraging many volunteers who are planning to submit good project
proposals.
* Having volunteers rushed with project plans, which lowers the quality of
the plans.
* Having volunteers being late and delayed with projects, for no good
reason.

Grantmaking is intented to support the communities, not frustrating them.
WMF: stop this negative campaign!


And for all project teams who want to organize a gender gap project: great
you organize this, it is very very welcome! But I like to make a
suggestion: submit the proposal on the first day after the shutting down
period to give a strong signal to WMF that shutting down is a bad idea.


It is time for a new strategic priority: closing the Community Gap. That is
the gap between WMF and the local communities worldwide. It is not new, it
exists for many years already. (It resulted also in the drama of the
situation around the Mediaviewer in 2014, the drama with the Visual Editor
in 2013, etc. in what WMF didn't sense well the community.) (Maybe the gap
is less between WMF and the English speaking part of the world, but the
world is larger. We have many people around the world who are speak a
different language. WMF is not sensing the worldwide community well
enough.)
Finally we should do more about this Community Gap.

For those celebrating: I wish you a happy new year with great projects that
make every single human being freely share in the sum of all human
knowledge!!

Romaine
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF is shutting down grantmaking for good projects for 3 months for no reason

2015-01-03 Thread Romaine Wiki
There are multiple ways in how to define the Gendergap, in this case it is
about female participation.

I do think it is a problem that the number of female participants is
dramatically lower than those of male contributors, but still this does not
give any good reason to exclude good projects who are not particular aiming
for female contributors.

WMF wants to solve the Gendergap by excluding good other projects. That is
a very bad situation.

Trying to solve the Gendergap by enlarging the Community Gap.

Bad idea.

Romaine



2015-01-03 15:33 GMT+01:00 Jane Darnell jane...@gmail.com:

 Nope. Gendergap is about the gap in female participation, not in
 female-related topics. The Dutch Wikipedia has a severe gap with only 6%
 female participation. I would say this is a pretty urgent problem for the
 Dutch and Flemish community, so I was very glad to see this as a main theme
 for the coming three months.

 On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 3:17 PM, Romaine Wiki romaine.w...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Hello Jane,
 
  Sorry, but I think you miss the problem here.
 
  As I said before, I am fine with more projects that improve the coverage
 of
  so-called female topics, but not if this is damaging the projects which
 do
  not aim for such.
 
  I hope this campaign in this form is cancelled and witdrawn and that
 never
  ever such situation appears again. This way of working is damaging the
  trust in WMF, discouraging many volunteers, worsening projects, etc.
 
  Having a Gendergap campaign in this form is NOT in line with the vision
 the
  Wikimedia movement has.
 
   The current campaign is scheduled to be one of hopefully many, targeted
  at the community in order to generate themed proposals.
 
  If it was really targeted at the Wikimedia community, it would not have
  excluded other projects.
 
  I propose everyone to refuse to take part in this as this is a move in
 the
  wrong direction.
 
  And how WLM to attract more female particpation? By having a special
  category for pink buildings.
  Under this condition, a question as such can't be taken seriously.
 
  Romaine
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  2015-01-03 14:58 GMT+01:00 Jane Darnell jane...@gmail.com:
 
   As a member of the IEG committee I am happy to say that there is no
 need
  to
   panic. WLM is highly successful project and no one is talking about
   shutting it down, or any other project for that matter. The current
   campaign is scheduled to be one of hopefully many, targeted at the
   community in order to generate themed proposals. The current growth of
   highly diverse and inspirational proposals takes increasingly more
 energy
   to manage, judge, and maintain. By introducing a three-month long
 theme,
  it
   is hoped that the following will occur:
   1) Grant committee members in their voluntary role as proposal
 reviewers
   and community sponsors will experience less burn-out in managing
  proposals
   as their will be more cross pollination per cohort of proposers and
 their
   proposals.
   2) A targeted campaign to attract proposals will enable easier
  translation
   across projects if the target audience can be identified in advance
   3) A targeted campaign will attract more volunteer committee members to
   manage proposals, hopefully attracting local experts in various
 Wikimedia
   projects.
  
   The Gendergap will be the first theme. I think it's a great idea! How
 can
   WLM attract more female participation? Any ideas?
  
   On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 11:26 AM, Romaine Wiki romaine.w...@gmail.com
   wrote:
  
Hi all,
   
Some disturbing news entered my mailbox the past days. The grant
 making
team is going to shut down the grantmaking process for Project and
  Event
Grants (PEG) and Individual Engagement Grants (IEG) for three full
   months!
   
They have decided that they want to focus only on a specific
 strategic
priority: the gender gap, and that all other good projects are
 refused
   for
3 months (February-April).
   
Having more attention to a strategic priority is fine to me. Having
  more
attention to the problem of the gender gap, sounds good to me as
 such,
  we
can use much more projects and content in those areas. But that does
  not
mean that many many volunteers who are organizing other projects
 should
become the victim of other projects.
   
This is a negative signal to all those volunteers who are currently
   working
on project plans to be submitted in February, March and April. Good
projects to be ignored, just because the WMF think those are less
important. They say this is a positive campaign, but this sounds as a
negative campaign to me. This discourages many volunteers in doing
projects.
   
And even worse: this is only to be generally announced 2 weeks before
   that
period of shutting down starts! (this sounds like a joke, sadly it
  isn't)
   
To organize a good project volunteers (yes, we are still unpaid! and
organize

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF is shutting down grantmaking for good projects for 3 months for no reason

2015-01-03 Thread Romaine Wiki
It is perfectly defined, it only matters which point of view you take.

The Wikimedia movement consists out of people, projects and content. There
is less content about so-called female topics. There seem to be less
projects that specifically cover those so-called female topics. And there
are less female contributors. All three of these views are related with
each other.

And as I sometimes write about those so-called female topics, I notice it
is more difficult to write neutral about those topics and therefore harder
to write about.

Further, I must say that I personally do not feel any need to disclose my
gender, even while a lot of you have met me. Maybe it is different on some
wikis, but generally I have the impression that many users do not want to
disclose it either. So the percentage is less well defined, but I do think
the m/f spread is far from balanced.
But something what seems not to be defined is what those so-called female
topics exactly are. And second, how large these subjects combined are in
the outside world, because wanting them to be 50-50 is not fair if the
subjects are 20-80 spread. Or maybe there are gender neutral topics also.

So yes, there are certainly things that are not defined, but what the
gendergap is, seems to be defined.

Romaine


2015-01-03 16:48 GMT+01:00 Jane Darnell jane...@gmail.com:

 I find it interesting to discover via this conversation that it has not
 been defined yet!

 On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 4:12 PM, Bence Damokos bdamo...@gmail.com wrote:

  On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 3:33 PM, Jane Darnell jane...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   Nope. Gendergap is about the gap in female participation, not in
   female-related topics.
  
 
  I would say it is both, but in either case this would be important to
  define if that is the criteria on which to solicit proposals. (The vision
  of Wikimedia is to share the sum of all human knowledge, so from that
  standpoint the end is to close the gap in coverage, diversity in the
  editorship is a  very important means to it.)
 
  In any case, experimentation with the grants programme is probably for
 the
  benefit of the community, but so is reliability and predictability. If
 the
  original assumptions are clear, announcing a major policy change for the
  grants programme only with 3 weeks of planned lead time seems to go
 againts
  those latter expectations unfortunately.
 
  Best regards,
  Bence
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF is shutting down grantmaking for good projects for 3 months for no reason

2015-01-03 Thread Romaine Wiki
Hi Jane,

Read!
https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikilovesmonuments/2014-December/007600.html

 From February 1-April 30, PEG will only accept
 proposals as part of the gender gap campaign, with the exception for urgent
 requests.

This means regular projects will not be accepted. That is effectively
shutting the grantmaking down.
Of course we will not let WLM to be shut down. But this grantmaking
shutting down is very demotivating and discouraging, for many organisers.

This is also counter productive in solving the gender gap problem.

Romaine





2015-01-03 18:10 GMT+01:00 Jane Darnell jane...@gmail.com:

 Teemu,
 Of course! Not only that, but I think that an internal survey already shows
 that WLM attracts a higher percentage of female contributors than any other
 project that measured it. Don't assume by the subject heading of this
 thread that any WLM project is being shut down. In fact, nothing is being
 shut down.
 Jane

 On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 6:03 PM, Leinonen Teemu teemu.leino...@aalto.fi
 wrote:

  Hei,
 
  5 cents: would it make a difference if the Wiki Loves Monuments / Art
  project plans (and others) will explicitly promise that, for instance,
 the
  gender (f/m) balance of the participants (n 500) will be 40/60 and +50%
 of
  them will be new editors?
 
  This would be meet the strategic objectives.
 
  -Teemu
 
  On Sat Jan 03 2015 05:27:47 GMT-0500 (COT), Romaine Wiki wrote:
   Hi all,
  
   Some disturbing news entered my mailbox the past days. The grant making
   team is going to shut down the grantmaking process for Project and
 Event
   Grants (PEG) and Individual Engagement Grants (IEG) for three full
  months!
  
   They have decided that they want to focus only on a specific strategic
   priority: the gender gap, and that all other good projects are refused
  for
   3 months (February-April).
  
   Having more attention to a strategic priority is fine to me. Having
 more
   attention to the problem of the gender gap, sounds good to me as such,
 we
   can use much more projects and content in those areas. But that does
 not
   mean that many many volunteers who are organizing other projects should
   become the victim of other projects.
  
   This is a negative signal to all those volunteers who are currently
  working
   on project plans to be submitted in February, March and April. Good
   projects to be ignored, just because the WMF think those are less
   important. They say this is a positive campaign, but this sounds as a
   negative campaign to me. This discourages many volunteers in doing
  projects.
  
   And even worse: this is only to be generally announced 2 weeks before
  that
   period of shutting down starts! (this sounds like a joke, sadly it
 isn't)
  
   To organize a good project volunteers (yes, we are still unpaid! and
   organize these projects in our spare time!) we need the time to
  communicate
   well with all our partners and sponsors, and need the time to come up
  with
   a good project plan with a stable basis. Rushing a project in just a
  couple
   of weeks time is very unpleasant and does not help in getting a good
   quality project. And announcing it two weeks before the period
 indicates
   that organizers aren't taken seriously (enough).
  
   For example, we are currently planning to organize Wiki Loves Monuments
  in
   2015 again, the world wide contest to have a better documentation and
   better display of all the cultural monuments worldwide, recognised as
   largest photo contest in the world by Guinness World Records. We are
   currently working on forming a team and want to have a good stable plan
  to
   be submitted within some weeks, but now we need to rush. And yes we
 need
  to
   start in January/February or it will be too late to organize it
 properly.
  
   Also all the national teams of Wiki Loves Monuments, the international
  team
   recommend all the national teams to start in January/February, to have
 a
   proper organisation together with various local partners and sponsors,
  but
   now all these teams are delayed for three months.
  
   And a personal project of mine in Belgium, I am planning to organize
 Wiki
   Loves Art in Belgium, together with various partners and sponsors. We
   intent to start in February, but now have to rush to get such done.
  
   By the way: did you know there is a Belgium Gap? Belgian subjects are
   relatively less and worse described on the various Wikipedias.
  
  
   This shutting down results in:
   * Discouraging many volunteers who are planning to submit good project
   proposals.
   * Having volunteers rushed with project plans, which lowers the quality
  of
   the plans.
   * Having volunteers being late and delayed with projects, for no good
   reason.
  
   Grantmaking is intented to support the communities, not frustrating
 them.
   WMF: stop this negative campaign!
  
  
   And for all project teams who want to organize a gender gap project:
  great
   you organize

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF is shutting down grantmaking for good projects for 3 months for no reason

2015-01-03 Thread Romaine Wiki
Hi Ilario,

As said before, that certain grant requests are submitted late, it doesn't
mean it is a good idea.

I was also not speaking about WLM organizers alone, but about all
organizers in general.
Shutting down the grantmaking for them is highly demotivating. Also when it
does not effect them directly.

It is effectively shutting down all projects that should start or are to be
started in these three months. The Grants page says
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Start : Supporting mission-allied
people and organizations around the world.
This is not supporting, but demotivating, demolishing, discouraging, and
frustrating the organizing volunteers.

Shutting down the grantmaking gives a strong negative signal to every
organiser. Your project is not important enough for the movement, that is
what this campaign says.

This is campaign is not benefiting the community, it is damaging it and it
is damaging the trust of the community in WMF.

It is enlarging the Community Gap.

Romaine












2015-01-03 20:53 GMT+01:00 Ilario Valdelli valde...@gmail.com:

 Hi Romaine,
 probably it's my feeling but a lot of countries apply for a grant for WLM
 very late (in general during summer).

 So it cannot be demotivating for WLM.

 I do not understand the impact of the project to assign the first three
 months of 2015 to a specific topic with the normal period of application
 for the national teams.

 The same international team of 2013 submitted the request in June.

 https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:PEG/Wiki_Loves_
 Monuments_international_team/2013_coordination

 Regards

 On 03.01.2015 20:01, Romaine Wiki wrote:

 Hi Jane,

 Read!
 https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikilovesmonuments/
 2014-December/007600.html

   From February 1-April 30, PEG will only accept
 proposals as part of the gender gap campaign, with the exception for
 urgent
 requests.

 This means regular projects will not be accepted. That is effectively
 shutting the grantmaking down.
 Of course we will not let WLM to be shut down. But this grantmaking
 shutting down is very demotivating and discouraging, for many organisers.

 This is also counter productive in solving the gender gap problem.

 Romaine


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[Wikimedia-l] Happy Public Domain Day!

2015-01-01 Thread Romaine Wiki
This sounds to me as something for a blog post!

On January 1 we celebrate Public Domain Day [1] as many works of authors
who died 70+ years ago now enter the public domain and can be used freely.

Let us be aware: copyright is temporary. It only lasts during the authors
lifetime and 70 years afterwards (in most countries). During those years it
is limiting Wikipedia and her sister projects in showing works of art,
literature, public art and buildings in countries without freedom of
panorama [2], and more in the articles. But now a new batch is freed from
copyrights!

An overview of images and texts that are restored or added to the Wikimedia
Commons, are collected on:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Romaine/Public_Domain_Day/2015

Many of these files still need a place in articles. You can help!

You can also help by uploading new files of subjects that are freed of
copyrights.
You can also help by tagging all requests for deletion pages with the
category when the file can be restored, which is/was deleted. [3]

As I follow the log of restored files this week, more images and texts will
follow. If still files or texts are missing in the list, let me know or add
them yourselves.

A very happy Public Domain Day!

Romaine



[1] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_Domain_Day
[2] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_panorama
[3] - https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Undeletion_requests
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia France] WikiCheese crowdfunding - Let's photograph 'em all

2014-11-29 Thread Romaine Wiki
I vote for Brussels  beer, I tasted them the past weeks and it asks for
more.

The day before yesterday I heard that some beers from Brussels are typical
Brussels as the region has a special local micro climate.

But I must say, I think it is good to document cheese, as well as other
food/drinks, we should have more photos with better quality. I really hope
this contributes to this.

Romaine

2014-11-28 10:32 GMT+01:00 Andrea Zanni zanni.andre...@gmail.com:

 Me too me too!
 But before, Brussels on beer.

 Aubrey

 On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 10:22 AM, Craig Franklin 
 cfrank...@halonetwork.net
 wrote:

  Forget that, I'd like WMUK to fly me to Scotland so that I can, uh,
  research and write about various types of whisky.
 
  Cheers,
  Craig
 
  On 25 November 2014 at 18:59, Jon Davies jon.dav...@wikimedia.org.uk
  wrote:
 
   And next the wine project? Count me in.
  
   On 24 November 2014 at 18:22, Christophe Henner 
   christophe.hen...@gmail.com
wrote:
  
Good news everyone,
   
Cheese articles are gonna get improved!
   
As french, it was dreadful for us to see so few illustrations of
 cheese
   on
Wikipedia. This is about to change.
   
A group of french Wikimedians, lead by Pierre-Yves Beaudouin,
 designed
  a
project to photograph many cheeses, up to 200 for the moment.
   
This project is perticular as we aim to have it found through a
 french
crowdfunding platform, KissKissBankBank.
   
Of course Wikimedia France could have funded it itself, but we wanted
  to
use the project as a way to get the larger audience aware of their
   ability
to contribute and to give a fun image of contributing.
   
The project in few words iss follow :
* 10 cheeses per session
* During the session the cheeses are photographed and their articles
improved
* During the sessions experimented wikimedian would train new editors
* At every session every participant would enjoy eating good cheese
 too
   
If you want to read more, or even contribute, about the project you
 can
   go
on KissKissBankBank :
http://www.kisskissbankbank.com/fr/projects/wikicheese
   
   
If you have any questions, please feel free to shoot them on or off
  list.
   
All the best,
   
--
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[Wikimedia-l] Founding event in the federal parliament of Belgium - today

2014-11-19 Thread Romaine Wiki
Hello all,

We had a great founding event in the drawing rooms of the president of the
Belgian Chamber of Representatives.

A good step also has been taken for getting Freedom of Panorama in Belgium!

The Chamber of Representatives also Twitters, and did send this tweet
today: https://twitter.com/DeKamerBE/status/535105474916798464
On the photo the President of the Belgian Chamber of Representatives and 6
of 7 board members of Wikimedia Belgium

And be aware, Belgium hosts the European Commission and the European
Parliament as well largely, we like to think beyond the borders of language
and country and like to work together and engage with other organisations
and people inside and outside Belgium.



You want to help us?
The difficulty of Belgium is that we have multiple official languages. To
move forward, we will need help in getting short and longer texts,
translated and improved, in multiple languages. So if you want to help to
translate or improve some text for us in English, French, German or Dutch,
let us know!


You got interested?

Membership of Wikimedia Belgium is open to anyone, also for you!
See: http://be.wikimedia.org/wiki/Be_a_member_of_Wikimedia_Belgium

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Next events in Belgium:
* 26 November in Brussels: prize giving ceremony Wiki Loves Monuments

http://be.wikimedia.org/wiki/Invitation_to_the_prize_giving_ceremony_of_Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2014
* 24 January in Brussels: general assembly
  The first general assembly will be organized on 24 January 2015. More
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[Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Honorary degree for Wikipedia

2014-11-17 Thread Romaine Wiki
Hi all,

A local newspaper in the Netherlands had today as headline:
Eredocteraat voor Timmermans en Wikipedia

Translated: Honory degree for Timmermans and Wikipedia


* Who is coming to Maastricht?
* Can we organize a wikimeet that day in Maastricht?

Romaine



Rough translation of the newspaper:

Maastricht University (UM) awarded an honorary doctorate to Frans
Timmermans and
the founder of Wikipedia, Jimmy Wales. They will be honored for the
exceptional contributions they, directly or indirectly, have made to
academic education and research.

Commissioner Frans Timmermans is praised for his great contributions to both
European and international relations. The American Jimmy Wales
Wikipedia has established
a platform accessible to everyone, which (in particular) for students not to
imagine that it does not exist as infinite source of information. The
honorary doctorates will be awarded during the official celebration of Dies
Natalis, which takes place on 16 January 2015 at Sint Janskerk in
Maastricht. Besides Timmermans and Wales, are also academics Michelle
Craske (nominated
by the Faculty of Psychology and Neuroscience) and Wolfgang Wahlster (nominated
by the Faculty of Humanities and Sciences) awarded an honorary doctorate.




Original in Dutch below:

Eredocteraat voor Timmermans en Wikipedia

De Universiteit Maastricht (UM) reikt een eredoctoraat uit aan Frans
Timmermans en de oprichter van Wikipedia, Jimmy Wales. Zij worden gehuldigd
voor de uitzonderlijke bijdragen die zij, direct of indirect, hebben
geleverd aan academisch onderwijs en onderzoek.

Eurocommissaris Frans Timmermans wordt geprezen om zijn grote bijdragen aan
zowel Europese als internationale relaties. De Amerikaan Jimmy Wales heeft
met Wikipedia een voor iedereen toegankelijk platform opgericht, dat (in
het bijzonder) voor studenten niet meer weg te denken is als oneindige bron
van informatie. De eredoctoraten worden uitgereikt tijdens de officiële
viering van de Dies Natalis, die plaatsvindt op 16 januari 2015 in de Sint
Janskerk te Maastricht. Naast Timmermand en Wales worden tevens academici
Michelle Craske (genomineerd door de Faculty of Psychology and
Neuroscience) en Wolfgang Wahlster (genomineerd door de Faculty of
Humanities and Sciences) onderscheiden met een eredoctoraat.
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