Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fundraising banners (again)

[Site Admin]

Dear Ms. Ayers

Thanks for informing you are also a WMF trustee like Sam and you
concede that.these controversial banners are in your face.

Sam's last email had this remark concerning the poster below:-

PS: The poster below is part of a deranged sockfarm, now blocked from en:wp, 
which has started spamming WM mailing lists (see the India list) and is 
squatting the site http://www.wikimedia.xyz/ . Please do not feed, and 
moderate as needed.

Some direct questions to you as a WMF Trustee:

a} if this is Trustee Sam's personal knowledge that the poster below
is part of a deranged sockfarm, or is it part of some official /
transparent record of WMF which we can object to formally ?

b) How Trustee Sam knows that the poster is squatting the site
http://www.wikimedia.xyz/; ? Is this also part of some official WMF
record ?

c) Do you deny the following official record of WMF concerning highly
offensive remarks, including sexually charged remarks, psychiatric
remarks, ways to fudge the accounts etc. ?

http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC_office_hours/Office_hours_2011-05-26

extracts:

[10:10am] Thehelpfulone: indeed, mindspillage what do you do?
[10:10am] sgardner: (Pinning her up against the wall, as Ironholds likes :-)
[10:10am] mindspillage: ...
[10:10am] Ironholds: ...
[10:10am] sgardner: LOL :-)
[10:10am] Ironholds: NOT what I meant
[10:10am] StevenW: She spills her mind, obviously. ;)
[10:11am] Ironholds: sgardner: you know the WMF covering psychiatric
insurance?
[10:11am] Ironholds: does it just cover YOURS, or are you going to
pay for the trauma I've just suffered? :p
[10:11am] sgardner: Most definitely :-)
..
[10:13am] mindspillage: And what can we do to help guide the
communities into making good choices and ensuring that success?
[10:13am] tommorris: a few well-placed indef blocks...
[10:13am] StevenW: Is movement roles sort of like that mindspillage?
The strategic planning I mean.
[10:13am] mindspillage: sgardner: I think the board could use
psychiatric benefits... :-P
..
[10:15am] sgardner: So for example, one of the issues the board
grapples with is (and is currently grappling with) is how much
emphasis the Wikimedia Foundation should put on growing its
operational reserve fund.
[10:15am] StevenW: Can you translate operational reserve fund to
human speak Sue? ;)
10:16am] Courcelles: Thinks that would be rainy day fund
[10:16am] Nihiltres: StevenW: the phrase rainy day comes to mind
[10:16am] StevenW: Yes.
[10:16am] Nihiltres: ah, damnit, Courcelles :P
..
[10:18am] GerardM-: the question is also what the effect of money
spend now will be for advancing our goals
10:18am] Prodego: Nihiltres: sure, but the budget has gone up far
faster than the site has grown
..
[10:22am] tommorris: Prodego: I'm leaning towards a few million for
a group of elite mercenaries to go around punishing vandals.
..
[10:25am] Fluffernutter: tommorris: and so I was going to say that
Ironholds is -- oops :P
..
[10:29am] quanticle: Hardware is cheap; people are expensive, etc.
..
[10:30am] sgardner: Just depends which way you want to slice the numbers.
[10:30am] SarekOfVulcan: Ah, like it better sliced that way, Sue. :-)
[10:30am] sgardner: :-)

On 12/4/14, phoebe ayers phoebe.w...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 3:22 PM, Ryan Lane rlan...@gmail.com wrote:
 phoebe ayers phoebe.wiki@... writes:


 With Sam, I'd like to add my thanks to Lila, and to the fundraising
 team which has done an extraordinary job of testing, optimizing, and
 running our fundraising campaigns. And thanks to all of you, for being
 concerned about and invested in our projects' public image and
 financial health and future.

 I am not just saying this because I am a trustee -- I've seen every
 fundraising campaign that the WMF has ever run, and participated in
 discussions about most of them, and I genuinely do like this year's.
 Yes, the banners are in your face, and I'm OK with that, given that
 it's a quick campaign and as always one click makes them go away
 (forever, I think). Obviously, opinions on the banner aesthetics can
 and will vary. But discussions on how much money we should raise
 (which, of course, is not an either/or choice) -- that's a different
 conversation.

 -- Phoebe

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fundraising banners (again)

[Site Admin]

Hello WMF

We agree with the previous posters RYAN about lack of transparency,
and COMPLETE INEFFICIENCY and arrogance in communications by/to/with
your communities and volunteers.

Please inform and educate why anonymous WMF communities are writing
false, concocted and fabricated articles about our organisation
replete with fabricated images, evidently to profit by donations to
WMF {Hosting provider} from Indian citizens to be given into SWISS
BANK ACCOUNTS in complete violation of Indian law by these HUGE SIZE
BANNERS which are highly intrusive.

See this image as evidence
http://www.imagesup.net/?di=014176874722

Please indicate when WMF will comply with Indian cyber law to appoint
a Grievance Officer
http://delhihighcourt.nic.in/dhcqrydisp_O.asp?pn=163416yr=2013
and verifiably stop Indian children under 13 from registering accounts
and becoming admins.

HRA1924 {a jan andalonist}
India Against Corruption,

What you should actually be upset about is the lack of transparency
regarding fundraising statistics. Ryan very politely asked for these
statistics and the response was essentially we've got higher priorities
right now, which of course is complete rubbish. Of course we're keeping
detailed logs of incoming donations, there's no extra burden there. And of
course people are e-mailing internally and creating internal reports. But
this information isn't being shared and we really must address this.

Nobody is suggesting that the fundraising team kills small furry animals
and I think everyone involved in this discussion (including and perhaps
especially those who are paid or were paid by donations) recognizes the
thankless and stressful job that the fundraising team has. But in the face
of active damage to Wikimedia's brand and reputation, after repeated and
lengthy discussions about the issues with obnoxious, misleading, and
obtrusive donation advertising, it's unsurprising that people are annoyed.

MZMcBride

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fundraising banners (again)

[Site Admin]

Dear Mr. Klein

PS: The poster below is part of a deranged sockfarm, now blocked from en:wp, 
which has started spamming WM mailing lists (see the India list) and is 
squatting the site http://www.wikimedia.xyz/ . Please do not feed, and 
moderate as needed.

As a WMF Trustee,  we suggest that you either retract your comments
publicly or take consent from WMF legal counsel before making it on a
publicly archived WMF mailing list.

Our movement and our members are completely transparent about our real
world identities and actions, and we assure you, and this list, that
we are neither deranged nor squatters nor sock-puppets. As WMF
is aware, HRA1924 is a role name used by India Against Corruption,
to communicate our concerns to WMF.

The subject issue is actually oversized in your face donations
banners being thrust on EN:WP visitors - attracted by misleading and
libelous WP articles / media which are incestuously promoted to no.1
on Google websearch, because Google's and WMF's affairs are so
financially and other-wise inter-twined.

HRA1924

On 12/4/14, Samuel Klein s...@wikimedia.org wrote:
 This is a good thread -- it's important to be unified in our message, proud
 of it, and aware of how broadly it spreads.  Every campaign both raises
 some funds for the project, gives supporters an opportunity to talk about
 Wiki*edia with their friends, and shifts public perception of who we are,
 what we do, and why.

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