[Wikimedia-l] Re: The new Signpost is out!

2022-10-02 Thread WereSpielChequers
While the Signpost is hosted on the English Wikipedia and started as very much an EN Wiki venture, it aspires to be of more general interest. Looking at that specific issue, yes there is much that is mainly English Wikipedia focused, including a small contribution of mine. But some of the content,

[Wikimedia-l] The English language Wikipedia's 1,111,111,111rd edit

2022-09-22 Thread WereSpielChequers
ired in the English speaking world. The precise time of this edit was *11:19, 9 19 2022 *in the 21st year of the pedia. Regards WereSpielChequers ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list -- wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org, guidelines at: https://meta.wiki

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Reflections about Visa situation for Wikimedians

2022-08-16 Thread WereSpielChequers
I'm sorry to hear about this. We all lose out when a multi national event excludes large parts of the world. This has come up in the past several times and some partial solutions have been discussed. We need to build in enough time in the process for people who need visas to get them after they

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Maryana Iskander interview in San Francisco Examiner

2022-07-23 Thread WereSpielChequers
Dear Andreus, If you are going to compare that figure of over 5,000 editors who admit to being paid editors to the hundreds of thousands figure for editors, you might want to filter it a bit. I had a quick look at what you linked to and found one account whose last edit was in 2017, and another

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Small joy of the day: Txikipedia

2022-06-23 Thread WereSpielChequers
Hi, I'm curious as to what level of reading skill you are writing this for and also what level of understanding/adulthood. I see these as two different issues and both are likely to vary sharply especially between different countries with very different education systems. A childrens'

[Wikimedia-l] Re: what do we do with all this opportunity?

2022-06-19 Thread WereSpielChequers
Hi SJ, Re " Even as the world moves on to new frontiers and companies race to enclose derivatives of our work." Not an easy task when work is licenced Share Alike and By Attribution. But yes it is a real threat, and should be one that both the WMF and the volunteer community can agree to combat.

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikimedia-l Digest, Vol 514, Issue 1

2022-06-13 Thread WereSpielChequers
Hi Yaroslav, Meta already exists, it is included in Single User login and cross wiki notifications. It uses the same software as the talkpages on our various projects on Wikipedia, Commons, WikiVoyage etc. The cross wiki notifications in particular mean that everyone active in Wikipedia, Commons

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Simplifying governance processes

2022-05-20 Thread WereSpielChequers
Thanks SJ for setting out the problem, re your second point, simplifying electoral processes: One very easy simplification of the governance process is to take the skillset issue out of the community elections for the WMF board. The board already has a number of "independent" members, and one

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees 2022

2022-04-25 Thread WereSpielChequers
I've served on a few boards in my time, and if I wanted to "improve the set of skills and the diversity contributed by newly selected trustees" this is not how I'd try to do it. Yes there are likely to be certain skillsets that you want on a board, but that's a key reason for having independent

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Open proxies and IP blocking

2022-04-22 Thread WereSpielChequers
Yesterday I was on a conference call that included several Nigerian Wikipedians, I was surprised at how much of their problems editing Wikipedia were over blocks. The English language Wikipedia doesn't have an overall problem with editing numbers, nearly eight years on, editing volumes are still

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Accessing wikipedia metadata

2021-09-16 Thread WereSpielChequers
Dear Christina, You are likely to find more researchers and people who regularly work with our metadata on the research mailing list. Send Wiki-research-l mailing list submissions to wiki-researc...@lists.wikimedia.org To subscribe or unsubscribe, please visit

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Concerns about BoT Election Q

2021-07-10 Thread WereSpielChequers
I'd have been more impressed if the answer was that we are a global and multilingual organisation, and there is a potentially huge overhead in translating multiple questions and answers into assorted languages of the movement. Limiting the amount of translation by only translating for languages

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Flourishing of the Endowment

2021-05-07 Thread WereSpielChequers
whereby in future donations would only be added to the endowment if they were specifically given for the endowment, and each years fundraising would stop when it had raised enough money to cover the following year's budgeted expenditure. Regards WereSpielChequers

[Wikimedia-l] The thousand millionth edit on the English Language Wikipedia

2021-01-13 Thread WereSpielChequers
The English Language Wikipedia passed an interesting milestone a few hours ago. The thousand millionth edit was at 1:03 AM this morning https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Death_Breathing=10 the article on the album Death Breathing was amended by Wikipedian Ser Amantio di Nicolao,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Annoying ads

2020-12-06 Thread WereSpielChequers
g the > > humanity to look at them, not sure how else this is supposed to read. > > It closes with the same "humbly" sentence, but this time with two > > emojis that are begging or praying hands. Personally I find being > > prayed at slightly offensive, Wikipedia be

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Moving the technical infrastructure out of the US

2020-10-01 Thread WereSpielChequers
For many years my part of England used to rely on a radio station based in Luxembourg. When it comes to potential host countries for Wikimedia there is a lot to be said for choosing a country that is small enough to rather like the idea of hosting the world's favourite reference site, even if that

Re: [Wikimedia-l] New essay on the ambiguity of NC licenses

2020-08-08 Thread WereSpielChequers
I can see a problem in making a site that contains non free information freely available to the public. Even if you restricted it to NC and ND licenses, you risk getting flak from both the reusers and the uploaders when there are disputes as to whether a particular use is commercial, or such a

[Wikimedia-l] Online Wiki meetups

2020-07-26 Thread WereSpielChequers
For the avoidance of doubt, the London meetup has moved online, and become a bit more of a skillshare/clinic type of event. Meeting 157 is on the 9th August. We have always been open for attendees from beyond zone 6, in the past we had visitors from as far afield as the south coast, Barnstaple,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] New essay on the ambiguity of NC licenses

2020-07-12 Thread WereSpielChequers
n the same direction. Regards WereSpielChequers > > > Message: 3 > Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2020 18:31:54 -0600 > From: James Heilman > To: Wikimedia Mailing List > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] New essay on the ambiguity of NC licenses > Message-ID: > zv8xsa4kfkngpbwrtymapcmpk

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Board update on Branding: next steps

2020-06-28 Thread WereSpielChequers
istake. So "if you want to change your name, don't change it to Wikipedia, Wiki or to something you can't trademark" is also a position, I suspect it is stronger than "no name change is necessary". Regards WereSpielChequers Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2020 02:27

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Annoying ads

2020-05-05 Thread WereSpielChequers
Given the large reserves that the WMF carries, and the savings from cancelling events such as Wikimania 2020, I would have thought that the WMF was one organisation that could afford to pause its fundraising for a few months. At least in countries where the economy is in freefall. In a few months

[Wikimedia-l] Practical implications of Coronavirus

2020-03-10 Thread WereSpielChequers
At last Sunday's London Meetup we discussed the situation and while not wanting to seem over cautious (we were of course the dozen who'd decided to attend). We realised that there was a good chance that the April and even May meetings might need to go virtual. Is there a recommended software

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Which script oral language will use anyway?

2019-09-04 Thread WereSpielChequers
Most of the Wikis in the Wikimedia family are organised by language, not just script. If you load something that is in the wrong language for a particular wiki it is liable to be deleted as out of scope. That's before people get into discussions as to whether this is oral history or something

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fram en.wp office yearlock block

2019-07-04 Thread WereSpielChequers
Agreeing/asserting that the English Language Wikipedia has a toxic editing environment is easy. Defining the problem and suggesting solutions has historically been rather more difficult. Just watch the latest threads at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Civility for examples. On the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Introducing Wikimedia Space: A space for movement news and conversations

2019-06-27 Thread WereSpielChequers
Hi Quim, I have tried it out and created a calendar entry for the London meetup. A few comments. It isn't in the Single User Login (SUL). If I was there I wouldn't be getting notifications from Wikimedia wikis, and if someone pinged me or edited something I was interested in I wouldn't get

Re: [Wikimedia-l] America may go bizarro, but Wikipedia has a choice to make

2019-01-09 Thread WereSpielChequers
I would suggest Iceland. But there are several other possibilities, Ireland and New Zealand for starters. But Iceland is a nice green location for server farms. Cheap cooling, green electricity a small enough economy that they wouldn't want to upset the WMF if it located there, and a government

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The fact-checked encyclopedia

2018-04-15 Thread WereSpielChequers
clopedia" but one that I think we could and should move to. Draft at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:WereSpielChequers/Invisible_flagged_revisions WereSpielChequers > On Sun, Apr 15, 2018 at 8:53 AM, Anthony Cole <ahcole...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > I just googled “wikiped

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Amazon Echo' use of Wikipedia; CC license compliance?

2018-04-05 Thread WereSpielChequers
Yes of course the WMF can contact those who are detected reusing our content without fully complying with licenses and encourage them to comply. If a case were to go to court it would need to have one or more contributors who were willing to cooperate with WMF legal in the case. But I doubt there

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Time to simplify the Bureaucracy ?

2018-03-06 Thread WereSpielChequers
they are paid to do. I suspect that many reforms are possible and may even be necessary, but it really helps when you are changing something to understand the different perspectives that lead to that compromise. WereSpielChequers > -- > > Message: 5 >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Paid translation

2018-03-04 Thread WereSpielChequers
very low and financial donations reflect that perhaps we have little to lose by shifting now from asking for funds to asking for content donations, especially in the language of that area. WereSpielChequers > > > > -- > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 3 Ma

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Women in red

2017-10-16 Thread WereSpielChequers
Hi Gnangarra I've heard bad things about the articles for creation process, but a minimum of either 1.5 kb or 2,000 bytes of prose is a new one on me. Can you link to that part of the AFC rules? I have reread things such as

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Funding the endowment

2017-08-25 Thread WereSpielChequers
. Regards Jonathan / WereSpielChequers > On 23 Aug 2017, at 07:44, wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org wrote: > > Send Wikimedia-l mailing list submissions to >wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >https:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Quality assurance of articles

2017-04-17 Thread WereSpielChequers
A few years ago I suggested comparing Wikipedias and producing lists of biographies of people who were alive on your version of Wikipedia but dead on another. A bot writer went away, wrote a bot and at one point we had reports running in 11 languages using data from 80 language versions. Sadly

Re: [Wikimedia-l] a second commons, prevent cease and desist business

2017-03-06 Thread WereSpielChequers
Different people are going to have very different views as to how diplomatic we should be when we find people who are using our work but not complying with the license. As long as the movement doesn't invest in enforcing the relatively minor conditions involved in CC-BY-SA and we leave enforcement

Re: [Wikimedia-l] More politics: "WMF Annual Report"

2017-03-02 Thread WereSpielChequers
write the next version of this. WereSpielChequers > > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2017 00:51:04 -0500 > From: Risker <risker...@gmail.com> > To: Wikimedia Mailing List <wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org> > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] More pol

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Very good news!

2017-02-20 Thread WereSpielChequers
ple of years is simply because the easy wins for edit filters have been achieved; Or how much of the decline was due to the rise of smartphones and tablets where Wikipedia is much more of a broadcast medium with comparatively few editors. Jonathan/WereSpielChequers Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2017

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Early Update - Fundraising

2016-12-08 Thread WereSpielChequers
Hi Seddon, I can understand a few anomalies where people give when they don't have funds to cover it, and for a difference between estimated exchange rates and the actual exchange rate that applied when the transaction was processed (currencies float and are quite capable of moving between the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Personal Update

2016-11-02 Thread WereSpielChequers
Errrh, Welcome to Quora! More seriously I was thinking of putting together a submission for Montreal along the lines of "Cultural Learnings of Quora for Make Benefit Glorious Website of Wikipedia." Any one who wants to get involved in that please contact me off list. WSC On 2 November 2016 at

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: [discovery] Fwd: Improving search (sort of)

2016-08-04 Thread WereSpielChequers
At Wikimania in Gdansk someone from Google gave an interesting if somewhat controversial presentation on search improvements this way. From my memory of the presentation - it was a few years ago; For several languages including some Indic ones, I think Bangla and Telegu, Google had listed the 500

Re: [Wikimedia-l] New Elections Committee

2016-07-26 Thread WereSpielChequers
in this community there are ways to argue respectfully and effectively, and there are arguments that undermine your cause and weaken your reputation. WereSpielChequers On 26 July 2016 at 06:39, <wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org> wrote: > Send Wikimedia-l mailing list su

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [discovery] Fwd: Improving search (sort of)

2016-07-15 Thread WereSpielChequers
I use search to find typos and misused words, so I'm guilty of some of the gibberish looking searches . If we are concerned that some common searches could have Privacy implications, why not create it as a deleted page and announce

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Sweden loses copyright suit

2016-04-06 Thread WereSpielChequers
to comply with the law where they are. Regards WereSpielChequers > ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikiwand

2016-03-31 Thread WereSpielChequers
hat include mirrors, but it is a barrier that prevents some GLAMS from sharing media onto Wikimedia Commons and hugely ironic that we have the problem ourselves in our own metrics. Jonathan / WereSpielChequers > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2016 08:39:46 +0200 > From: Anders Wenn

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia Zero mass effect on Wikimedia projects

2016-03-21 Thread WereSpielChequers
something similar to the Chinese Wikipedia and display different versions of Portuguese according to user preference/IP geography? WereSpielChequers ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Ne

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Executive transition planning

2016-03-09 Thread WereSpielChequers
organisations, especially if we had to pay a license fee to Disney. Jonathan/WereSpielChequers > > On 3/5/16 8:28 AM, Chris Sherlock wrote: > >> In it's decision making capacity, the Board should: > >> > >> * Select, evaluate and (if necessary) remove the Executive

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimediauk-l] Free as in beer

2016-02-29 Thread WereSpielChequers
Well they definitely aren't adding either NC or ND, but they might be implying SA with all that sharing is caring stuff. You could ask before migrating to wiki source, my guess is they are choosing CC-BY-SA Regards Jonathan / WereSpielChequers > On 29 Feb 2016, at 15:19, Richard Symo

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Are we too rigid?

2016-02-26 Thread WereSpielChequers
://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:2016_Strategy/Reach#WereSpielChequers TTFN Jonathan / WereSpielChequers > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2016 01:38:31 +0300 > From: Yuri Astrakhan <yastrak...@wikimedia.org> > To: Wikimedia Mailing List <wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org> > Subject: R

Re: [Wikimedia-l] US Copyright Law Forces Wikimedia to remove Public Domain Anne Frank Diary

2016-02-16 Thread WereSpielChequers
us taking copyright seriously. But though it is an important work, is it really one we should be trying to force into the open against the wishes of a charity set up by her relatives? Regards Jonathan/WereSpielChequers ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why take grants? (was: Can we see the Knight grant application and grant offer?)

2016-02-03 Thread WereSpielChequers
the strategy of the WMF with the aspirations of a large part of the community, those whose motivation comes in part from contributing under CC-BY-SA rather than CC0. Regards Jonathan/WereSpielChequers ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Was the Wikimedia Foundation's removal of membership in 2006 legal?

2016-01-27 Thread WereSpielChequers
based organisation would have better defences against being "commercialised". Regards Jonathan/WereSpielChequers >> Dear friends, >> >> Recent events have made me curious to learn more about the Wikimedia >> Foundation's origins and history as a membership

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Monetizing Wikimedia APIs

2016-01-16 Thread WereSpielChequers
ose future employers could easily be other tech giants. WereSpielChequers/Jonathan Message: 3 > Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2016 18:11:51 -0800 > From: Denny Vrandecic <dvrande...@wikimedia.org> > To: Wikimedia Mailing List <wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org> > Subject: Re: [Wiki

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Monetizing Wikimedia APIs

2016-01-16 Thread WereSpielChequers
to go through Gift Aid. WereSpielChequers > > > > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2016 21:59:50 +1000 > From: Craig Franklin <cfrank...@halonetwork.net> > To: Wikimedia Mailing List <wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org> > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l]

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia's 15th BD

2016-01-15 Thread WereSpielChequers
A few hours ago I had the pleasure of celebrating Wikipedia's fifteenth birthday here in Tbilisi with Wikimedia Georgia. Press and Television were both in attendance. We had some interesting discussions

[Wikimedia-l] WMF Conflict of Interest Policy

2016-01-10 Thread WereSpielChequers
void because a trustee voted despite having an interest according to these new rules. Any change to the rules could only apply to decisions made after the rules were updated. WereSpielChequers ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.w

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcing new Wikimedia Foundation Trustees

2016-01-06 Thread WereSpielChequers
Dear Anthony, The community elected Denny knowing that he worked at Google . If this was an additional conflict of interest taken on after his election then

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Endowment Discussion

2015-12-02 Thread WereSpielChequers
A big advantage of having an endowment would be in conversations with our GLAM partners. - An organisation funded by an endowment can more credibly make longer-term commitments than one that is not. This would be particularly attractive to some of our current and potential GLAM partners; "Entrust

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wiki-research-l] Quality issues

2015-11-20 Thread WereSpielChequers
My experience is that pretty much all Wikimedians care about quality, though some have different, even diametrically opposed views as to what quality means and which things are cosmetic or crucial. My experience of the sadly dormant death anomaly project

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WLM Brasil 2015 - Winners / Numbers

2015-10-31 Thread WereSpielChequers
Maybe it is time to reconsider some of our standard metrics for wiki loves monuments. One of the big gains in several countries has been to get a list of monuments into Wikipedia maybe in future direct into wikidata. I think that the standard metrics should reflect that, OK it is metadata,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Next step in the development

2015-10-29 Thread WereSpielChequers
Hi Romaine, Having bots that list tasks that need doing is a great way to get things done. But you need to think carefully who you target this work at. We do have bots that tell editors when they've linked an article to a disambiguation page, there is some logic in that as the person who added

[Wikimedia-l] Increase in size of the core editing community

2015-09-10 Thread WereSpielChequers
. We aren't out of the woods yet as other metrics are still declining, for example both new accounts and editors making 5 or more saves are both down across Wikipedia generally when comparing August 2015 with 2014. But it's nice to have one metric be positive. Regards WereS

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [[wikimedia-I] Wiki Loves Monuments] Wiki Loves Monuments in Italy largely blocked by WMF fundraising

2015-09-06 Thread WereSpielChequers
been a WLM but where a group of volunteers will emerge in the next few months. How can one predict where they will be? WereSpielChequers > 3 > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2015 13:39:25 +1000 > From: Craig Franklin <cfrank...@halonetwork.net> > To: Wikimedia Mail

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Harald bischoff advertising to make images for the wikimedia foundation and then suing users

2015-07-28 Thread WereSpielChequers
Wikimedia project but breach on another. I and perhaps others whose German skills are like mine barely adequate to order a beer, would be grateful if a German speaker on this list could clarify this. Regards WereSpielChequers ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Cebuano and Waray-waray Wikipedias among Top 10

2015-07-06 Thread WereSpielChequers
WereSpielChequers ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Can Wikipedia Survive? op-ed

2015-06-22 Thread WereSpielChequers
I agree with Jane that it is great that one of us gets to write in the NY Times. But I would slightly disagree with Andrew. Yes smartphones are becoming ubiquitous, and for smartphone users Wikipedia is a broadcast medium not an interactive one. That's not great, especially for those languages

Re: [Wikimedia-l] CAPTCHA issues discouraging new editors

2015-06-19 Thread WereSpielChequers
I'm tempted to point out that this mainly affects new editors who cite their edits, other new editors will get bitten in other ways. But the internet is not the best venue for irony. More practically, if you have a tame admin on tap then you can reduce this and other problems at editathons by

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wiki-research-l] Community health (retitled thread)

2015-06-05 Thread WereSpielChequers
Yes, but may I also point out that one of our biggest problems on EN wiki is that even good faith newbies will often have their edits reverted. If you add uncited facts to a page you are now much more likely to have your edit reverted than to have someone add citation needed so I would suggest

Re: [Wikimedia-l] While Election committee counts the votes...

2015-06-04 Thread WereSpielChequers
In the UK lists of voters marked with who did and did not vote are called marked registers. They are available to political parties and can be used to check that no-one has voted on behalf of people who don't vote for religious or other reasons. In a system where there are no ID checks on

Re: [Wikimedia-l] New financing model for editations

2015-03-19 Thread WereSpielChequers
Wikimedia UK certainly doesn't have a veto power on editathon's in the UK, we do try to coordinate in order to minimise clashes, but all we can do there is to request that people not have multiple editathons in the same city on the same day. There are things that we have that make editathon's

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Ciritical level for addiction to Wikipedia

2015-03-05 Thread WereSpielChequers
are staying on after their 100th or 1000th edit, as that is the stage in their wiki career where they are likely to think that they will never become a full member of the community. Regards Jonathan/WereSpielChequers On 4 Mar 2015, at 19:19, wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org wrote: Send

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Funding bot maintenance

2015-02-24 Thread WereSpielChequers
: Today's Topics: 1. Funding bot maintenance (WereSpielChequers) 2. Re: Funding bot maintenance (John) 6. Re: Funding bot maintenance (MZMcBride) Message: 2 Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2015 11:53:53 -0500 From: John phoenixoverr...@gmail.com To: Wikimedia

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Benchmark of Versions

2015-02-02 Thread WereSpielChequers
Anders, Sounds like an interesting test, but what were the home ranges of the six bird species? If they are not native to China or Japan but native to Catalonia and the Basque Country then it is a little more understandable that they are in some Wikipedias and not others. I can appreciate

Re: [Wikimedia-l] proportion of wiki size to what?

2015-01-26 Thread WereSpielChequers
Hi Amir, Some variables that you might also want to look at are: Relative status of language - I have heard from more than one source that part of the Indic language problem is that people who can write in English and an Indic language usually prefer to edit English. Different types of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Our final email

2014-12-19 Thread WereSpielChequers
Two weeks ago I emailed the fundraising team with the following note, quietly and discretely pointing out an error in their messaging. Sadly I haven't had a reply and I think that in the UK they are still using the £3 buys a coffee for a programmer line: Aside from the incidental nature of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] MoodBar usage

2014-12-10 Thread WereSpielChequers
-- Message: 3 Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2014 19:21:21 +0100 From: Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com To: Wikimedia Mailing List wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] MoodBar usage Message-ID: 54873da1.7090...@gmail.com Content-Type:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The Lighter Side of the Movement

2014-09-17 Thread WereSpielChequers
Will, there are several areas within Wikipedia or at least the English language version where humour exists and is tolerated by most. Most obviously humour, especially of the self deprecating variety, is welcome on user pages and in usernames. April fools day accounts for two more of them.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] To Flow or not to Flow

2014-09-08 Thread WereSpielChequers
Responding to two comments. Firstly Risker Newbies have an equally hard time editing content, too, and even when they succeed, on many projects they're very likely to be reverted and deluged with templated messages in response to a good faith attempt. There is no evidentiary basis to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] To Flow or not to Flow

2014-09-06 Thread WereSpielChequers
much more welcoming if that no longer had to be explained to newbies. Regards WereSpielChequers/Jonathan Cardy ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikimedia-l] personally communicating with new editors (was: Re: editor retention initiatives)

2014-08-26 Thread WereSpielChequers
. Regards Jonathan (WereSpielChequers) On 26 Aug 2014, at 17:06, wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org wrote: Copy-pasters, spammers, and vandals will probably largely be put off by that requirement rather than bothering to fulfill it ___ Wikimedia-l

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Next steps regarding WMF-community disputes about deployments

2014-08-22 Thread WereSpielChequers
Proposing a solution to the community should not be the start of the process of involving the community. Developers are better qualified than non-developers to say whether a prom can be solved, and how it can be solved. But the most important steps in the process include deciding what could be

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Compare person data

2014-08-21 Thread WereSpielChequers
. Regards Jonathan (WereSpielChequers) On 19 Aug 2014, at 22:05, wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org wrote Message: 1 Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 09:04:17 -0400 From: MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com To: Wikimedia Mailing List wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Compare

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thanking anonymous users

2014-01-20 Thread WereSpielChequers
Hi Erik, Thanks for the charts, The pattern though not the quantity of declining reverts since the 2007 peak certainly fits the theory that as the anti vandal bots and edit filters have got more efficient so our level of vandalism has fallen. As well as the theory that the drift to mobile is

[Wikimedia-l] effect of edit filter on editing levels, (was thanking anons)

2014-01-15 Thread WereSpielChequers
Marc, It isn't just the vandalism and reversion of vandalism that we've lost as a result of the edit filters (originally known as abuse filters) there is also the lost userpage warnings, AIV reports, block messages and removal of AIV reports:) But yes the majority would have been vandalism and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Has the underlying level of edits risen or fallen since the Edit Filters came in in 2009?

2013-08-28 Thread WereSpielChequers
On 28 August 2013 13:49, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com wrote: The question can't really be answered without knowing what you want to achieve; I'll start from the end. WereSpielChequers, 28/08/2013 14:13: This is of more than academic interest, if we simply ignore this effect

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Has the underlying level of edits risen or fallen since the Edit Filters came in in 2009?

2013-08-28 Thread WereSpielChequers
? Message-ID: CAH7nnD0tACeBcE77mBZ1JQqar78=w+sb-sd-z-_gkr_32bw...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On 28/08/2013, WereSpielChequers werespielchequ...@gmail.com wrote: Has anyone come up with a formulae for the ratio between vandalism prevented by the edit filters

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Has the underlying level of edits risen or fallen since the Edit Filters came in in 2009?

2013-08-28 Thread WereSpielChequers
August 2013 16:45, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com wrote: WereSpielChequers, 28/08/2013 17:14: Just because the edit filter is enabled by default doesn't mean that every wiki has people optimising it to find vandalism in their language. This is what the bugzilla link is about

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wiki-research-l] Research:Anatomy of English Wikipedia Did You Know traffic

2013-08-04 Thread WereSpielChequers
Hi Laura and Kerry, One point to remember when comparing views of DYKs with other processes such as GAs is that DYKs get a slot on the mainpage. In that sense they are best compared to in the news items and the Featured Article of the Day. Though I'm pretty sure they don't individually get as

[Wikimedia-l] Human-assisted machine translation (it was: The case for supporting open source machine translation)

2013-05-01 Thread WereSpielChequers
Re David's point One of the biggest problems in MT is word disambiguation. I'm sure that this would be correct, though probably more strongly in some languages than in others. English for example has many words with meanings as diverse as bonnet (headware, a type of chili and in some countries

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Adopt a page

2013-03-31 Thread WereSpielChequers
I see several issues/concerns re sponsoring pages. Firstly it is a form of advertising, even if we don't name the sponsor on the page (and there will be pressure to do so) then we will have headlines along the lines of car maker x launches new peregrine car - sponsors Wikipedia page on Peregine

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Office hour inside out (program evaluation)

2013-03-25 Thread WereSpielChequers
Message: 5 Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2013 15:57:44 -0300 From: Everton Zanella Alvarenga t...@wikimedia.org To: Wikimedia Mailing List wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Cc: gyo...@wikimedia.org gyo...@wikimedia.org, Nitika Tandon nit...@cis-india.org Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Office

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Office hour inside out (program evaluation)

2013-03-22 Thread WereSpielChequers
We shouldn't criticise people for coming up with programs such as IEP and AFT, but we should look at how long it took to stop them after serious opposition arose and major flaws were pointed out. As a movement we need to get much better at switching our efforts from blind alleys to things that we

Re: [Wikimedia-l] 15% off merchandise today at the Wikimedia Shop

2013-01-14 Thread WereSpielChequers
Hi James, Firstly kudos for trying to get an alternate revenue stream going as opposed to donations. I'd be surprised if you could get merchandising to the point where it funds core operations, but it is certainly worth trying. If you are facing high international transport costs then I'd

[Wikimedia-l] Commons and EN Wiki are slow today

2012-11-05 Thread WereSpielChequers
This afternoon has been another terribly slow one for response from WM sites, I've tried patience, and wandering off to other faster sites for a while, but I suspect we have another IT glitch. Or at least we do here in London. WSC ___ Wikimedia-l

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Throttling (was: Re: Please can someone put 50p in the meter)

2012-10-15 Thread WereSpielChequers
Cc: Wikimedia developers wikitec...@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Throttling (was: Re: Please can someone put 50p in the meter) Message-ID: 507bc9a1.7040...@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed WereSpielChequers, 15/10/2012 09:56: 60

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Please can someone put 50p in the meter

2012-10-13 Thread WereSpielChequers
in a network upgrade. Leslie On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 10:27 AM, Richard Symonds richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote: My 3G in East London has also gone down. Connected? Richard Symonds, Wikimedia UK On Oct 12, 2012 4:45 PM, WereSpielChequers werespielchequ...@gmail.com wrote: Does

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia redefined -- typography and UX and such

2012-08-17 Thread WereSpielChequers
Message: 2 Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 08:54:38 -0400 From: Nathan nawr...@gmail.com To: Wikimedia Mailing List wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia redefined -- typography and UX and such Message-ID:

[Wikimedia-l] This afternoon's system outage

2012-08-06 Thread WereSpielChequers
Hi, after crashing an hour or so ago EN Wikipedia has started to come back but with a really strange appearance - less usable than Vector. Rumour has it that someone cut through a fibre optic cable in Florida, so far none of the parties to various incidents on the Dwamah boards have fessed up as

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] 2012-13 Annual Plan of the Wikimedia Foundation

2012-08-04 Thread WereSpielChequers
Message: 2 Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2012 15:02:51 -0700 From: Tilman Bayer tba...@wikimedia.org To: Wikimedia Mailing List wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] 2012-13 Annual Plan of the Wikimedia Foundation Message-ID:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] speedydeletion.wika.com lauched

2012-07-22 Thread WereSpielChequers
Message: 5 Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 21:33:31 + From: Mike Dupont jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com To: Wikimedia Mailing List wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] speedydeletion.wika.com lauched Message-ID: CAF0qKV0enH4_EwrnLYoPUOGwiDrjRHBfBuLQY1Pv2JiDfCD=

[Wikimedia-l] Only IP editing allowed on Wikipedia

2012-04-30 Thread WereSpielChequers
Hi can anyone point me to a write up of the the test plan for this morning's experiment on Wikipedia? Having been logged off about ten times I've worked out that you get logged out the first two times you change page. It will be interesting to see how many editors revert to IP editing. WSC