Re: [Wikimedia-l] I'll be moving on

[Yana Welinder]

Thanks for your work on Wikimedia Sverige, Jan! It's been great to work
with you in that capacity and I look forward to seeing the next great
things you'll do.

Best,
Yana

On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 10:12 AM, Pavel Richter  wrote:

> I will just join the choir and say: Thank you for what you did. I always
> enjoyed working with you, and I hope the future treats you as well as you
> have treated us Wikimedians ! Stay in touch!!
>
> Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Kind regards,
>
> Pavel Richter
> Mobil: +4915119645755
> Twitter: @pavel
> Blog: blog.pavelrichter.de
>
> Von meinem Handy aus verschickt / send from my mobile phone
> Am 08.10.2015 10:22 schrieb "Jan Ainali" :
>
> > All,
> >
> > For the last three years I have been the Executive Director for Wikimedia
> > Sverige. Before that I have been Chairman, Treasurer and Secretary of the
> > board (at different times) and have been involved since the founding of
> the
> > chapter in 2007. It is perhaps even an understatement to say that the
> > chapter has been a big part of my life. I have had the opportunity to be
> > part of a fantastic journey from starting the first chapter’s activities
> to
> > today, with stable strategic activities, seven people in the office, and
> a
> > diversified board. It has been an awesome time in my life and I have met
> > and worked with some truly wonderful persons along the way, and I am
> > thankful to all of you that have made it so inspiring. But now, as my
> > contract is about to come to an end, I feel that it is time for me to
> move
> > on to new endeavours. I am confident that the chapter is already in good
> > hands, with a professional board and an office with experienced staff
> > members and functional processes, but I’ll be around until at least the
> > beginning of January to make it a smooth transition.
> >
> > I will obviously always be a wikimedian at heart and probably pick up on
> my
> > editing again and I will also stay subscribed to most mailing lists. If
> not
> > earlier, I’ll see you in Esino Lario.
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > *Jan Ainali*
> > Executive director, Wikimedia Sverige <http://wikimedia.se>
> >
> >
> >
> > *Tänk dig en värld där varje människa har fri tillgång till
> mänsklighetens
> > samlade kunskap. Det är det vi gör.*
> > Bli medlem. <http://blimedlem.wikimedia.se>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Board of Trustees Chair and Vice Chair positions

[Yana Welinder]

edia.org>
> > >>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> Hello Everyone
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> I am happy to inform you that the Board has unanimously
> > >>>> appointed a
> > >>>>>> new
> > >>>>>>>> Chair and Vice Chair of the Wikimedia Foundation Board of
> > >>> Trustees.
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> Patricio Lorente will be the new Chair and Alice Wiegand will
> > >>> be
> > >>>>> the
> > >>>>>>> new
> > >>>>>>>> Vice-Chair. Both have several.years of experience on the board
> > >>> and
> > >>>> we
> > >>>>>> are
> > >>>>>>>> confident that they will help the board grow and be successful
> > >> in
> > >>>> the
> > >>>>>>>> coming years.
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> Personally I am looking forward to helping them get
> > >> acquainted
> > >>>> with
> > >>>>>>>> their new role in the coming months as my time on the Wikimedia
> > >>>> Board
> > >>>>>>> ends
> > >>>>>>>> in December.
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> I hope you can join me in congratulating them on their new
> > >>>> position
> > >>>>>> and
> > >>>>>>>> wish them success in the challenges facing them.
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> Jan-Bart de Vreede
> > >>>>>>>>> Wikimedia Board of Trustees
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Securing access to Wikimedia sites with HTTPS

[Yana Welinder]

Hi Austin,

Thanks for letting me know. I use PGP, but there's something wrong with my
key right now. I'll look into it and get back to you.

Thanks,
Yana

On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 11:22 PM, Austin Hair  wrote:

> On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 8:56 PM, Yana Welinder  wrote:
> > I should also mention that while we try to be as transparent as possible
> in
> > all our work (including holding community consultations around all major
> > legal policies and providing frequent updates on our work), there are
> very
> > limited situations where public discussions could actually hurt free
> access
> > to Wikipedia. If you have thoughts about the evolving censorship
> landscape,
> > feel free to email me directly, if possible via encrypted email.
>
> Would you mind clarifying which encryption method? S/MIME? PGP?
>
> I was actually going to reply, because what you said puzzled me, but
> this is the only PGP key I could find for you on the public
> keyservers:
>
> pub  4096R/FFF81E5E 2015-06-01 *** KEY REVOKED *** [not verified]
>Yana Welinder 
>
> Austin
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Securing access to Wikimedia sites with HTTPS

[Yana Welinder]

Hi all,

Our understanding is that there is currently no country where only HTTPS
access to Wikipedia is blocked. In Iran
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_of_Wikipedia#Iran>, the
government appears to have been blocking select Wikipedia articles at
different times.[1] The Great Firewall of China
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_of_Wikipedia#China> has also been
blocking select articles on Chinese and English Wikipedia.[2] While it
previously blocked all HTTPS access to Chinese Wikipedia, that block has
more recently been extended to HTTP access as well. The transition to HTTPS
by default therefore shouldn't block anyone's access to all of Wikipedia
due to censorship. Rather it should help prevent censorship of select
Wikipedia articles, which we know is a problem in different parts of the
world.

I should also mention that while we try to be as transparent as possible in
all our work (including holding community consultations around all major
legal policies and providing frequent updates on our work), there are very
limited situations where public discussions could actually hurt free access
to Wikipedia. If you have thoughts about the evolving censorship landscape,
feel free to email me directly, if possible via encrypted email.

With respect to Wikipedia Zero, we have been working with mobile carriers
for over a year to make sure that they are able to provide access free of
data charges over HTTPS. For many carriers, this required them to adjust
the technical implementation of how they waive data charges. We are now
finally ready to transition Wikipedia Zero access to HTTPS by default.

Best,
Yana

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_of_Wikipedia#Iran
[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_of_Wikipedia#China

On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 6:27 AM, Tanweer Morshed 
wrote:

> But won't the people in Iran or China would be able to access the Wikimedia
> sites through http instead of https? And what about accessing through https
> within Wikipedia Zero? Is cost-free access available through https?
>
> On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 12:54 PM, geni  wrote:
>
> > On 14 June 2015 at 05:21, Comet styles  wrote:
> >
> > > China and Iran blocks https (and WMF thinks https is more secure than
> > > http when it can be EASILY blocked lol)
> >
> > China is currently blocking HTTP and has done so quite frequently. The
> > ability to block is largely unrelated to security.
> >
> >
> >
> > > so people in these countries
> > > used wikipedia on http, so some here think that these countries are
> > > spying on them by forcing them to use http, but that https block in
> > > this countries was NOT to target wikipedia, it was to target social
> > > networking sites and  american based email sites like yahoo and gmail
> > > etc..but now by moving to HTTPS, we have now become a target for those
> > > countries..well done..
> >
> >
> > That doesn't make sense. HTTPs doesn't hide the domain. The country can
> > still tell that someone is visiting wikipedia rather than say facebook.
> > What becomes more difficult is telling what a person is viewing on
> > wikipedia.
> >
> >
> >
> > > and to add to that, people who used
> > > wikipedia in those countries to find the "truth" about whats happening
> > > in their country and other regions can no longer do so since its
> > > blocked..Well Done again WMF..
> >
> >
> > Well actually no they couldn't if they had a government with active
> > blocking measures. With HTTP traffic governments and ISPs can (and did)
> > block individual pages that they don't like.
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Someone has to be fired for this.
> > >
> > >
> > That would seem to be something of an over reaction even if you disagree
> > with the decision.
> >
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] WaPo Wikipedia's 'complicated; relationship with net neutrality

[Yana Welinder]

Hi all,

As Gayle mentioned in her email, the article in the Washington Post did not
represent an official position on net neutrality from the Wikimedia
Foundation, or how we understand Wikipedia Zero. I wanted to provide some
background that does.

Wikipedia Zero is designed to empower people who cannot afford to access
information to get basic access to knowledge and participate in the
creation of knowledge. It’s widely understood that barriers like poverty
and limited internet connectivity are two major blockers preventing people
around the world from full access to knowledge, and there are a number of
groups working to address these issues as part of the broader Access to
Knowledge (A2K) movement.

Wikipedia Zero is a powerful tool for accessing knowledge, but it is not
the solution to the whole problem. It’s one tool in a toolbox. Real change
needs to address issues such as cost barriers, literacy, and access to
infrastructure. That’s why we’re also developing a more coordinated effort
within a broader A2K coalition to collectively address the systemic
challenges.

While Wikipedia Zero serves broader A2K objectives, we are mindful that
zero-rating can be a challenging issue for net neutrality advocacy. In
response, we’ve developed ten operating principles
<https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Wikipedia_Zero_Operating_Principles>
to make sure that the initiative remains a free knowledge base with
operations that are transparent to users.[1] They are intended to deter
Wikipedia Zero from being used to introduce other zero-rating initiatives
that don't follow the operating principles. We developed these principles
after extensive consultation with net neutrality advocates about their
concerns regarding commercial zero-rating arrangements, and believe they
are strong and useful guidance for advocates to distinguish free access to
Wikipedia from other zero-rating programs.

We’ll continue working with policymakers on net neutrality and welcome your
constructive suggestions in this regard. We believe the vision of Wikimedia
— the sum of all knowledge, available to all — and the values of an open
internet are entirely consistent and in the global public interest. We’re
also learning from your comments and welcome more input on how the
Wikimedia community can support the A2K movement.

Best,
Yana

[1] https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Wikipedia_Zero_Operating_Principles

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Re-licensing Wikimedia logos on Commons to CC BY-SA 3.0

[Yana Welinder]

Thanks Yann!  We will take care of those files.

On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 11:56 AM, Yann Forget  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Just a note: we can update the license on Commons, but I noticed that
> the files were copied locally on https://wikimediafoundation.org/
> Someone with the right priviledges will have to do it there.
>
> Regards,
>
> Yann
>
> 2014-10-30 17:30 GMT+01:00 Yana Welinder :
> > Still traveling, but let me see if I can briefly dispel some of the
> > confusion.
> >
> > CC BY-SA 3.0 grants users the right to use an image under copyright law.
> It
> > does not cover trademark rights. The goal of trademark rights is to
> protect
> > the logo from being used in a way that confuses the public. Trademark
> > protection only covers certain types of uses, which are not the same as
> use
> > covered with a copyright license like CC BY-SA 3.0. The Wikimedia
> trademark
> > policy provides how the logos can be used as trademarks and here is some
> > discussion about why it does that:
> >
> https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Trademark_policy-purpose#trademark-purpose
> > .
> >
> > So are the logos "free" under the Free Culture Definition? Yes, because
> the
> > definition only talks about freedom under copyright law and lists CC
> BY-SA
> > 3.0 as a "free license." The definition does not mean that users have
> > freedom to violate other types of rights.
> >
> > Hope this clarifies!
> >
> > Yana
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 11:54 PM, Allan J. Aguilar 
> wrote:
> >
> >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
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> >> On Wed, 29 Oct 2014 08:15:17 -0500
> >> Yana Welinder  wrote:
> >> > To address Allan's question, this does not affect the trademark
> >> > status of the logos as governed by the new trademark policy:
> >> > https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Trademark_policy.
> >> >
> >>
> >> Thank you, Yana.
> >>
> >> However, as someone who understand little about copyright and
> >> trademarks, for me it is difficult to understand how can a logo be used
> >> commercially and not at the same time, and how can a logo be edited in
> >> any but at the same time it only can be published according to specific
> >> visual guidelines.
> >>
> >> Are the logos Free Cultural Works (as defined by Erik Möller on
> >> http://freedomdefined.org) or not?
> >> - --
> >> Allan J. Aguilar
> >> ral...@vmail.me - ralgis@freenode - al...@jabber.ccc.de
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> >> userralgis@Twitter - User:Ralgis@Wikimedia
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> >> https://libredebian.wordpress.com
> >> https://revistasifra.wordpress.com/
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Re-licensing Wikimedia logos on Commons to CC BY-SA 3.0

[Yana Welinder]

Still traveling, but let me see if I can briefly dispel some of the
confusion.

CC BY-SA 3.0 grants users the right to use an image under copyright law. It
does not cover trademark rights. The goal of trademark rights is to protect
the logo from being used in a way that confuses the public. Trademark
protection only covers certain types of uses, which are not the same as use
covered with a copyright license like CC BY-SA 3.0. The Wikimedia trademark
policy provides how the logos can be used as trademarks and here is some
discussion about why it does that:
https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Trademark_policy-purpose#trademark-purpose
.

So are the logos "free" under the Free Culture Definition? Yes, because the
definition only talks about freedom under copyright law and lists CC BY-SA
3.0 as a "free license." The definition does not mean that users have
freedom to violate other types of rights.

Hope this clarifies!

Yana

On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 11:54 PM, Allan J. Aguilar  wrote:

> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA512
>
> On Wed, 29 Oct 2014 08:15:17 -0500
> Yana Welinder  wrote:
> > To address Allan's question, this does not affect the trademark
> > status of the logos as governed by the new trademark policy:
> > https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Trademark_policy.
> >
>
> Thank you, Yana.
>
> However, as someone who understand little about copyright and
> trademarks, for me it is difficult to understand how can a logo be used
> commercially and not at the same time, and how can a logo be edited in
> any but at the same time it only can be published according to specific
> visual guidelines.
>
> Are the logos Free Cultural Works (as defined by Erik Möller on
> http://freedomdefined.org) or not?
> - --
> Allan J. Aguilar
> ral...@vmail.me - ralgis@freenode - al...@jabber.ccc.de
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> userralgis@Twitter - User:Ralgis@Wikimedia
> https://editandowikimedia.wordpress.com
> https://libredebian.wordpress.com
> https://revistasifra.wordpress.com/
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Re-licensing Wikimedia logos on Commons to CC BY-SA 3.0

[Yana Welinder]

The relicensing applies to the Wikimedia logos, which refers to all the
logos of the Wikimedia wikis:
https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Wikimedia_trademarks. It also applies
to all the derivatives that carry the {{Copyright by Wikimedia}} template
on Commons.  Essentially, the objective is to get rid of that last non-free
license template. I'm traveling for a conference, but I will see if I can
clarify the blog post on this as soon as I have better internet connection.

To address Allan's question, this does not affect the trademark status of
the logos as governed by the new trademark policy:
https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Trademark_policy.

Best,
Yana

On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 2:34 AM, Romaine Wiki 
wrote:

> Hi Yana,
>
> The blog post is not entirely clear as "Wikimedia logo" can have a
> different meaning in different contexts. Reading the blog post, I can't
> define precise what a "Wikimedia logo" is. "Wikimedia logo" can mean:
> * the logo used by Wikimedia:
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikimedia-logo.svg
> * this logo and all the derivatives of it (for chapters, Meta, etc)
> * all logos of all the Wikimedia wikis, including the Wikipedia logo
>
> The blog post speaks in plural form of logos. And the blog post is
> speaking about the MediaWiki and Community logos as exception, which differ
> much from the Wikimedia logo, I suspect that the blog post tries to say
> that all the logos from Wikipedia, Wikiquote, Wikisource, Wikinews,
> Wikibooks, Wiktionary, Wikidata, Wikispecies, Incubator, Commons,
> Wikivoyage, Wikiversity, Wikimania, + all screenshots of wiki pages with
> the logo of a Wikimedia-wiki on it, all the derivatives of these logos,
> including the Wikimedia family logo.
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikimedia_logo_family_complete-2013.svg
>
> Can you confirm this, just for the sake of clarity?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Romaine
>
>
> 2014-10-27 18:51 GMT+01:00 Yana Welinder :
>
>> Hi folks,
>>
>> I'm happy to announce that we are re-licensing the Wikimedia logos on
>> Commons to CC BY-SA 3.0:
>> https://blog.wikimedia.org/2014/10/24/wikimedia-logos-have-been-freed/
>>
>> I would really appreciate your help with replacing the {{Copyright by
>> Wikimedia}}
>> <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Copyright_by_Wikimedia>[1]
>> templates on the logos with the {{Wikimedia trademark}}
>> <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Wikimedia_trademark>[2] and
>> {{cc-by-sa-3.0}} <
>> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Cc-by-sa-3.0>[3]
>> templates. But we don't want to replace templates on the MediaWiki
>> <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:MediaWiki.svg>[4] and the
>> Community
>> <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikimedia_Community_Logo.svg>[5]
>> logos, which were originally released under free licenses.
>>
>> There are also some pages on Commons, like this one
>> <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Licensing>[6], that may need
>> to
>> be updated based on the re-licensed logos.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Yana
>>
>> [1] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Copyright_by_Wikimedia
>>
>> [2] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Wikimedia_trademark
>>
>> [3] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Cc-by-sa-3.0
>>
>> [4] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:MediaWiki.svg
>>
>> [5] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikimedia_Community_Logo.svg
>>
>> [6] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Licensing
>>
>>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Re-licensing Wikimedia logos on Commons to CC BY-SA 3.0

[Yana Welinder]

Good point.  That line can now be deleted from the trademark template.

On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 7:40 AM, Romaine Wiki 
wrote:

> Practical question:
> The template:
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Wikimedia_trademark
> contains a line: (Consider using {{Copyright by Wikimedia
> <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Copyright_by_Wikimedia>}}
> instead)
>
> Should that line be removed from the Wikimedia trademark template?
> (including all translations)
>
> Romaine
>
> 2014-10-28 10:36 GMT+01:00 Ting Chen :
>
> > Really cool, great work. Thank you very much.
> >
> > Greetings
> > Ting
> >
> > Am 10/27/2014 um 06:51 PM schrieb Yana Welinder:
> >
> >  Hi folks,
> >>
> >> I'm happy to announce that we are re-licensing the Wikimedia logos on
> >> Commons to CC BY-SA 3.0:
> >> https://blog.wikimedia.org/2014/10/24/wikimedia-logos-have-been-freed/
> >>
> >> I would really appreciate your help with replacing the {{Copyright by
> >> Wikimedia}}
> >> <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Copyright_by_Wikimedia>[1]
> >> templates on the logos with the {{Wikimedia trademark}}
> >> <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Wikimedia_trademark>[2]
> and
> >> {{cc-by-sa-3.0}} <https://commons.wikimedia.
> >> org/wiki/Template:Cc-by-sa-3.0>[3]
> >> templates. But we don't want to replace templates on the MediaWiki
> >> <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:MediaWiki.svg>[4] and the
> >> Community
> >> <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikimedia_Community_Logo.svg
> >[5]
> >> logos, which were originally released under free licenses.
> >>
> >> There are also some pages on Commons, like this one
> >> <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Licensing>[6], that may
> need
> >> to
> >> be updated based on the re-licensed logos.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Yana
> >>
> >> [1] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Copyright_by_Wikimedia
> >>
> >> [2] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Wikimedia_trademark
> >>
> >> [3] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Cc-by-sa-3.0
> >>
> >> [4] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:MediaWiki.svg
> >>
> >> [5]
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikimedia_Community_Logo.svg
> >>
> >> [6] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Licensing
> >>
> >>
> >>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Re-licensing Wikimedia logos on Commons to CC BY-SA 3.0

[Yana Welinder]

Thanks for the catch, Alice!  I just changed it in the post.

On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 12:07 PM, Alice Wiegand  wrote:

> Great news!
> While the title of the Logo in the blogpost links to the unported version,
> you link to the US version of cc-by-sa 3.0 when you mention it first in the
> text (in the second paragraph). A mistake?
>
> Alice.
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 7:01 PM, Vishnu  wrote:
>
> > Thanks! A much needed and appreciated move!!
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Vishnu
> >
> >
> >
> > On Monday 27 October 2014 11:21 PM, Yana Welinder wrote:
> >
> >> Hi folks,
> >>
> >> I'm happy to announce that we are re-licensing the Wikimedia logos on
> >> Commons to CC BY-SA 3.0:
> >> https://blog.wikimedia.org/2014/10/24/wikimedia-logos-have-been-freed/
> >>
> >> I would really appreciate your help with replacing the {{Copyright by
> >> Wikimedia}}
> >> <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Copyright_by_Wikimedia>[1]
> >> templates on the logos with the {{Wikimedia trademark}}
> >> <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Wikimedia_trademark>[2]
> and
> >> {{cc-by-sa-3.0}} <https://commons.wikimedia.
> >> org/wiki/Template:Cc-by-sa-3.0>[3]
> >> templates. But we don't want to replace templates on the MediaWiki
> >> <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:MediaWiki.svg>[4] and the
> >> Community
> >> <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikimedia_Community_Logo.svg
> >[5]
> >> logos, which were originally released under free licenses.
> >>
> >> There are also some pages on Commons, like this one
> >> <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Licensing>[6], that may
> need
> >> to
> >> be updated based on the re-licensed logos.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Yana
> >>
> >> [1] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Copyright_by_Wikimedia
> >>
> >> [2] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Wikimedia_trademark
> >>
> >> [3] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Cc-by-sa-3.0
> >>
> >> [4] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:MediaWiki.svg
> >>
> >> [5]
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikimedia_Community_Logo.svg
> >>
> >> [6] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Licensing
> >>
> >>
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[Wikimedia-l] Re-licensing Wikimedia logos on Commons to CC BY-SA 3.0

[Yana Welinder]

Hi folks,

I'm happy to announce that we are re-licensing the Wikimedia logos on
Commons to CC BY-SA 3.0:
https://blog.wikimedia.org/2014/10/24/wikimedia-logos-have-been-freed/

I would really appreciate your help with replacing the {{Copyright by
Wikimedia}}
<https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Copyright_by_Wikimedia>[1]
templates on the logos with the {{Wikimedia trademark}}
<https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Wikimedia_trademark>[2] and
{{cc-by-sa-3.0}} <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Cc-by-sa-3.0>[3]
templates. But we don't want to replace templates on the MediaWiki
<https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:MediaWiki.svg>[4] and the Community
<https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikimedia_Community_Logo.svg>[5]
logos, which were originally released under free licenses.

There are also some pages on Commons, like this one
<https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Licensing>[6], that may need to
be updated based on the re-licensed logos.

Thanks,

Yana

[1] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Copyright_by_Wikimedia

[2] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Wikimedia_trademark

[3] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Cc-by-sa-3.0

[4] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:MediaWiki.svg

[5] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikimedia_Community_Logo.svg

[6] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Licensing


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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] [PRESS RELEASE] Airtel Offers Nigerians Free Access to Wikipedia

[Yana Welinder]

Gerard: Labs is not currently considered for zero-rating because it can be
misused. But it may be added over time if we figure out how to work around
that and there is demand for it.

Rupert: Your comment seems unnecessarily hostile to me, but I'm going to
try to assume good faith. I have of course edited Wikipedia articles in my
spare time, though I may not do it as much given that I spend most of my
time defending the projects legally and creating a safer environment for
other editors.

To address your substantive point: that people need full Internet access to
do research for Wikipedia articles. I do think there are ways the community
could work with editors that have limited access to the Internet rather
than dismissing them outright. The fact that people can't afford to pay for
full Internet access should not exclude them from contributing to the
projects.

Best,
Yana

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On Sun, Jun 1, 2014 at 8:45 AM, rupert THURNER 
wrote:

> Yana, may i suggest that you try at least one time in your life edit a
> wikipedia article so you experience how much bandwith is consumed to do a
> proper research of verifyable sources? Or just read an article and try to
> verify the contents? Yana, there is only one type of internet, please leave
> it up to the reader what is good and what is bad, and please let the
> wikipedia zero contracts reflect this.
>
> Rupert
> Am 01.06.2014 09:57 schrieb "Yana Welinder" :
>
> > As the Quartz article from Jens's email discusses, the decision in Chile
> is
> > very unfortunate.[1] It's an example of when net neutrality — which is an
> > important principle for the free and open internet — is poorly
> implemented
> > to prevent free dissemination of knowledge. Although Wikipedia Zero is
> not
> > yet available in Chile, it is a country of interest for the program, so
> we
> > are thinking about what options are available in light of this decision.
> >
> > That said, I would like to clarify a couple of points about the
> > implementation of Wikipedia Zero that were raised in this thread:
> >
> > 1. The newer Wikipedia Zero partnerships have provided the full Wikipedia
> > sites (m.wikipedia) free of data charges for some time now and we are
> > phasing out the reduced version (zero.wikipedia) from the older
> > partnerships.
> >
> > 2. While earlier Wikipedia Zero partnerships only zero-rated Wikipedia,
> we
> > are working on getting carriers to zero-rate all the Wikimedia projects.
> >
> > 3. We are also working on getting editing functions zero-rated, though
> > there are some technical hurdles for that right now. But, eventually,
> > Wikipedia Zero will not only make knowledge more accessible, but also
> > empower more people in the Global South to contribute to the projects.
> >
> > 4. Finally, WMF does *not* pay carriers to zero-rate Wikipedia under
> > Wikipedia Zero. Carriers zero-rate the sites because they want to make a
> > commitment to access to knowledge as a corporate social
> responsibility.[2]
> > I believe this question has already been answered in this thread since
> > Scott raised it earlier, but I just wanted to confirm that Wikipedia Zero
> > does not involve payments.
> >
> > Hope this is helpful!
> >
> > Best,
> > Yana
> >
> > [1]
> >
> >
> http://qz.com/215064/when-net-neutrality-backfires-chile-just-killed-free-access-to-wikipedia-and-facebook/
> > [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporate_social_responsibility
> >
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> >
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> > on what this means, please see our legal disclaimer
> > <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Legal_Disclaimer>.
> >
> > On Sat, May 31, 2014 at 5:52 AM, Jens Best 
> wrote:
> >
> > > News from Chile
> > >
> > > Chile’s Subsecretaria de Telecomunicacio

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] [PRESS RELEASE] Airtel Offers Nigerians Free Access to Wikipedia

[Yana Welinder]

As the Quartz article from Jens's email discusses, the decision in Chile is
very unfortunate.[1] It's an example of when net neutrality — which is an
important principle for the free and open internet — is poorly implemented
to prevent free dissemination of knowledge. Although Wikipedia Zero is not
yet available in Chile, it is a country of interest for the program, so we
are thinking about what options are available in light of this decision.

That said, I would like to clarify a couple of points about the
implementation of Wikipedia Zero that were raised in this thread:

1. The newer Wikipedia Zero partnerships have provided the full Wikipedia
sites (m.wikipedia) free of data charges for some time now and we are
phasing out the reduced version (zero.wikipedia) from the older
partnerships.

2. While earlier Wikipedia Zero partnerships only zero-rated Wikipedia, we
are working on getting carriers to zero-rate all the Wikimedia projects.

3. We are also working on getting editing functions zero-rated, though
there are some technical hurdles for that right now. But, eventually,
Wikipedia Zero will not only make knowledge more accessible, but also
empower more people in the Global South to contribute to the projects.

4. Finally, WMF does *not* pay carriers to zero-rate Wikipedia under
Wikipedia Zero. Carriers zero-rate the sites because they want to make a
commitment to access to knowledge as a corporate social responsibility.[2]
I believe this question has already been answered in this thread since
Scott raised it earlier, but I just wanted to confirm that Wikipedia Zero
does not involve payments.

Hope this is helpful!

Best,
Yana

[1]
http://qz.com/215064/when-net-neutrality-backfires-chile-just-killed-free-access-to-wikipedia-and-facebook/
[2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporate_social_responsibility

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On Sat, May 31, 2014 at 5:52 AM, Jens Best  wrote:

> News from Chile
>
> Chile’s Subsecretaria de Telecomunicaciones just decided that zero-rating
> is a promotion tool which is against net neutrality. Therefore all
> zero-rated-related marketing deals have to stop at the 1st of June.
> According to a WMF-list in Chile no provider has been offering Wikipedia
> Zero. Also I'm not sure if this dismissal reflects only on zero-rated
> offers where payment of money is done by the content provider. So it still
> needs to be checked how/if this decision is influencing our intent to
> spread Wikipedia Zero.
>
> All in all it shows that we have to improve our arguments in a broader
> scale if we don't want to get caught by promoting Free Knowledge" but in
> fact 'only' pushing the use of a reduced version of one (very well known
> and superb) website which stand exemplary for this idea. We are caught in a
> dilemma which imho only can be solved when reaching out to more partners
> which stand for Free Knowledge and Free Education. Not sure how this could
> work, but fortunately that never was a reason to stop.
>
> News from Chile:
>
>
> http://qz.com/215064/when-net-neutrality-backfires-chile-just-killed-free-access-to-wikipedia-and-facebook/
>
>
> http://www.subtel.gob.cl/noticias/138-neutralidad-red/5311-ley-de-neutralidad-y-redes-sociales-gratis?_ga=1.143290485.1915805894.1400742323
>
> Overview Wikipedia Zero:
>
> https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Mobile_partnerships
>
>
>
> 2014-05-30 6:59 GMT+02:00 rupert THURNER :
>
> > participation is another aspect. wp zero allows free reading. it does
> > not allow free participation. write emails, search for references,
> > download and adjust code. just as a side note, the oxford university
> > stated: until 2012, europe, i.e. 10% of the worlds population,
> > produced 50%+ of wikipedias geotagged contents [1].
> >
> > imo it is not necessary to terminate wikipedia zero, it "just" needs
> > to be negotiated differently: if a telco wants to support our case,
> > give every person 200mb free internet access. unrestricted. or, if we
> > need to break some law like now or be in the grey area, we could
> > support additionally a viral model, like: if somebody is a wikipedia
> > contributor (as defined in election criteria, or like in ghana, 3
> > edits per week), give them 2 GB free internet traffic for free,
> > unrestricted.
> >
> > if the WMF legal departme

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Non-free images in collaborations

[Yana Welinder]

Hi Mike,

Some of the Wikimedia logos are already licensed under CC BY-SA 3.0 and we
want them to be consistently licensed, to the extent that we can.

Thanks,
Yana


On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 12:50 PM, Michael Peel  wrote:

> Hi Yana,
>
> That's a good change - thanks for making it. :-) Out of curiosity, is
> there a reason why you're using v3 rather than v4 of the license?
>
> Thanks,
> Mike
>
> On 19 Mar 2014, at 19:46, Yana Welinder  wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > We've started changing the copyright status for the Wikibooks logo on
> > Commons to CC BY-SA 3.0:
> >
> > https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikibooks-logo-en-noslogan.svg
> > https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikibooks-logo.svg
> > https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikibooks-logo-en.svg
> > https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikibooks-logo-en-unpathed.svg
> >
> > I would really appreciate your help if you would like to replace the
> > copyright template with the CC BY-SA 3.0 template on the different
> language
> > versions of the Wikibooks logo.
> >
> > But please don't change the copyright status on any of the other
> Wikimedia
> > logos for now.  We're still working on those.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Yana
> >
> > --
> > Yana Welinder
> > Legal Counsel
> > Wikimedia Foundation
> > 415.839.6885 ext. 6867
> >
> > NOTICE: For legal reasons, I may only serve as a lawyer for the Wikimedia
> > Foundation. This means I may not give legal advice to, or serve as a
> lawyer
> > for, community members, volunteers, or staff members in their personal
> > capacity.
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Mar 9, 2014 at 12:19 AM, Yana Welinder  >wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Rupert,
> >>
> >> Some Wikimedia logos are not currently under a free license for historic
> >> reasons.  But we hope to make them all freely licensed eventually and
> have
> >> already done so for newer logos (e.g. the new Wikivoyage logo).
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Yana
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Yana Welinder
> >> Legal Counsel
> >> Wikimedia Foundation
> >> 415.839.6885 ext. 6867
> >>
> >> NOTICE:  For legal reasons, I may only serve as a lawyer for the
> >> Wikimedia Foundation. This means I may not give legal advice to, or
> serve
> >> as a lawyer for, community members, volunteers, or staff members in
> their
> >> personal capacity.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sat, Mar 8, 2014 at 11:58 PM, rupert THURNER <
> rupert.thur...@gmail.com>wrote:
> >>
> >>> hi,
> >>>
> >>> i talked to james about the reasoning. it seems unequal that
> wikimedia's
> >>> logo is restricted and allowed, the partners logo not. imo we should
> put
> >>> the wikimedia logo's under a standard license, because the wikimedia
> >>> foundation is giving a bad example without gaining a lot.
> >>>
> >>> rupert.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Sun, Mar 9, 2014 at 6:07 AM, James Heilman 
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Currently our policies do not allow the use of logos of organizations
> we
> >>>> are collaborating with, even with permission from these organizations,
> >>> in
> >>>> the non mainspace areas of Wikipedia where we are collaborating.
> >>>>
> >>>> As this use "with permission" is legal, it is not in mainspace, and it
> >>>> promotes the development of Wikipedia I have started a RfC here
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Non-free_content#Logos_of_organizations_one_is_collaborating_withsuggesting
> >>>> that we allow it. Thoughts?
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> James Heilman
> >>>> MD, CCFP-EM, Wikipedian
> >>>>
> >>>> The Wikipedia Open Textbook of Medicine
> >>>> www.opentextbookofmedicine.com
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Non-free images in collaborations

[Yana Welinder]

Hi all,

We've started changing the copyright status for the Wikibooks logo on
Commons to CC BY-SA 3.0:

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikibooks-logo-en-noslogan.svg
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikibooks-logo.svg
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikibooks-logo-en.svg
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikibooks-logo-en-unpathed.svg

I would really appreciate your help if you would like to replace the
copyright template with the CC BY-SA 3.0 template on the different language
versions of the Wikibooks logo.

But please don't change the copyright status on any of the other Wikimedia
logos for now.  We're still working on those.

Thanks,
Yana

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capacity.


On Sun, Mar 9, 2014 at 12:19 AM, Yana Welinder wrote:

> Hi Rupert,
>
> Some Wikimedia logos are not currently under a free license for historic
> reasons.  But we hope to make them all freely licensed eventually and have
> already done so for newer logos (e.g. the new Wikivoyage logo).
>
> Thanks,
> Yana
>
>
> --
> Yana Welinder
> Legal Counsel
> Wikimedia Foundation
> 415.839.6885 ext. 6867
>
> NOTICE:  For legal reasons, I may only serve as a lawyer for the
> Wikimedia Foundation. This means I may not give legal advice to, or serve
> as a lawyer for, community members, volunteers, or staff members in their
> personal capacity.
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 8, 2014 at 11:58 PM, rupert THURNER 
> wrote:
>
>> hi,
>>
>> i talked to james about the reasoning. it seems unequal that wikimedia's
>> logo is restricted and allowed, the partners logo not. imo we should put
>> the wikimedia logo's under a standard license, because the wikimedia
>> foundation is giving a bad example without gaining a lot.
>>
>> rupert.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 9, 2014 at 6:07 AM, James Heilman  wrote:
>>
>> > Currently our policies do not allow the use of logos of organizations we
>> > are collaborating with, even with permission from these organizations,
>> in
>> > the non mainspace areas of Wikipedia where we are collaborating.
>> >
>> > As this use "with permission" is legal, it is not in mainspace, and it
>> > promotes the development of Wikipedia I have started a RfC here
>> >
>> >
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Non-free_content#Logos_of_organizations_one_is_collaborating_withsuggesting
>> > that we allow it. Thoughts?
>> >
>> > --
>> > James Heilman
>> > MD, CCFP-EM, Wikipedian
>> >
>> > The Wikipedia Open Textbook of Medicine
>> > www.opentextbookofmedicine.com
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Non-free images in collaborations

[Yana Welinder]

Hi Rupert,

Some Wikimedia logos are not currently under a free license for historic
reasons.  But we hope to make them all freely licensed eventually and have
already done so for newer logos (e.g. the new Wikivoyage logo).

Thanks,
Yana


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for, community members, volunteers, or staff members in their personal
capacity.


On Sat, Mar 8, 2014 at 11:58 PM, rupert THURNER wrote:

> hi,
>
> i talked to james about the reasoning. it seems unequal that wikimedia's
> logo is restricted and allowed, the partners logo not. imo we should put
> the wikimedia logo's under a standard license, because the wikimedia
> foundation is giving a bad example without gaining a lot.
>
> rupert.
>
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 9, 2014 at 6:07 AM, James Heilman  wrote:
>
> > Currently our policies do not allow the use of logos of organizations we
> > are collaborating with, even with permission from these organizations, in
> > the non mainspace areas of Wikipedia where we are collaborating.
> >
> > As this use "with permission" is legal, it is not in mainspace, and it
> > promotes the development of Wikipedia I have started a RfC here
> >
> >
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Non-free_content#Logos_of_organizations_one_is_collaborating_withsuggesting
> > that we allow it. Thoughts?
> >
> > --
> > James Heilman
> > MD, CCFP-EM, Wikipedian
> >
> > The Wikipedia Open Textbook of Medicine
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[Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] WMF Board approval of new Trademark policy and recommendation on the Community logo registration

[Yana Welinder]

Hi all,

We are happy to announce that the Board of Trustees approved the new
Trademark Policy this Saturday.[1] The policy is based on a seven-month
consultation with the community to replace our 2009 policy. The new policy
is unconventional in how it provides expansive use of the Wikimedia marks.
Thanks to the community's collaboration, the policy is more readable,
thorough, and consistent with our values.

The Board also approved our recommendation to withdraw trademark
registration and protection for the Community logo.[2] We will now initiate
withdrawal of US and worldwide registrations.

Many thanks to everyone who participated in these two consultations!

Thanks,
Yana and Geoff

[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Trademark_policy
[2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Logo/Request_for_consultation

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[Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Closure of trademark policy consultation

[Yana Welinder]

Hi everyone,

We are happy to announce the completion of the new Wikimedia trademark
policy.[1] We first launched a community consultation to gather input for
the first draft of this policy on June 3, 2013.[2] The first draft was then
discussed and significantly revised in a second consultation.[3]

Many thanks to everyone who participated in this discussion over the past
seven months. Your detailed feedback resulted in significant improvements
to the policy.[4] The new policy is more readable, thorough, and consistent
with our values, thanks to your collaboration. We look forward to
recommending the final draft to the Wikimedia Board.

You can read more about the trademark policy update on the Wikimedia
blog.[5]

Thanks,
Yana and Geoff

[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Trademark_policy
[2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Trademark_practices_discussion
[3] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Trademark_policy
[4]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Trademark_policy&diff=7066184&oldid=6408509
[5]
https://blog.wikimedia.org/2014/01/19/announcing-wikimedias-new-community-centered-trademark-policy/


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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Closure of Community Logo Consultation

[Yana Welinder]

Hi Dariusz,

Thanks for the note and for your appreciation. It was our pleasure to help
work this out and reach an informed decision with the community. It also
helped inform the larger consultation on the proposed trademark policy [1].
Trying to reconcile the law with a decentralized movement is not always
easy.  But it definitely makes our job interesting.  :)

Best,
Yana and Geoff

[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Trademark_policy


On Sat, Dec 7, 2013 at 10:49 PM, Dariusz Jemielniak wrote:

> Dear Geoff and Yana,
>
> even though the consultation results indicate that collective membership
> mark may have a slightly stronger support than abandoning all trademark
> registration, the issue is clearly very divisive. Taking the way the issue
> developed and its history, and past communication problems on the way, I
> think that recognizing a lack of clear consensus as a good reason to keep
> the status quo is sensible. I would like to thank you and commend you for
> your hard work, but also for your flexibility - it must have been tough to
> put in many hours and work on a solution you believe is best for the
> community, and then withdraw.
>
> best,
>
> Dariusz Jemielniak "pundit"
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 2:05 AM, Geoff Brigham  >wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > The consultation<
> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Logo/Request_for_consultation
> > >has
> > been closed on the question about the community logo registration.
> > Many thanks to everyone who provided their comments.   Based on the
> > consultation, we will be recommending to the Board that we withdraw
> > WMFtrademark registration and protection of the Community logo.
> >
> > Many thanks to all,
> >
> > Geoff and Yana
> >
> > [1]
> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Logo/Request_for_consultation
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[Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Call for input on the new trademark policy

[Yana Welinder]

Hi all,

The Wikimedia legal and community advocacy team invites
you[1]
to participate in the development of the new Wikimedia trademark
policy.

The current trademark
policy[2] was
introduced in 2009 to protect the Wikimedia
marks [3].
We are now updating this policy to facilitate permissive use of the
marks, while respecting the legal requirements for preserving them for the
community. The new draft trademark policy is ready for your review
here[4], and we
encourage you to discuss it
here  [5].

Thanks,
Yana & Geoff

[1]
http://blog.wikimedia.org/2013/11/18/call-for-input-on-the-new-trademark-policy/
[2] https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Trademark_Policy
[3] http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Wikimedia_official_marks%20
[4] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Trademark_policy
[5] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Trademark_policy
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community consultation on trademark practices and Community logo

[Yana Welinder]

Hi all,

For the benefit of community members that are not on this list and given
some earlier email problems, we have posted our email directly on the
consultation talk page:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Community_Logo/Request_for_consultation#September_26th_Wikimedia-l_email_from_Geoff_and_Yana

Please join this community consultation here:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Logo/Request_for_consultation.

Many thanks for your input,

Geoff & Yana

---

Original email:

Hi all,

We would like to take this opportunity to thank everyone who has
constructively participated in the ongoing trademark practices consultation
that we started several months ago.  Please feel free to continue your
participation there, since all issues continue to remain open for
discussion.[1]  We would also like to invite community members to join the
ongoing discussion regarding the trademark protection of the Community logo
that we posted on Monday:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Logo/Request_for_consultation.
 Our goal is to obtain clear direction from the community on how we should
proceed with respect to the registration of the Community logo and whether
we should pursue a collective membership mark for the community.

Our current consultation is part of an ongoing discussion regarding this
logo. We joined this discussion on the talk page for the Community logo and
Wikimedia thematic organizations.[2]  We then initiated a broader
discussion on trademarks in June, where the discussion on the Community
logo continued.[1] That trademark practice discussion remains open and
active, and we have been responding to a wide array of important issues
thanks to community comments.

We were first notified this weekend of a potential opposition to the
trademark registration,[3]  an issue not raised earlier in the community
consultation on trademark practices even though the deadline for the
opposition was not until December 22.  We accordingly initiated a community
consultation on Monday about how you would like us to handle this.[4]
Indeed, this is consistent with the legal team’s ongoing efforts over the
last two years to include the community in important legal decisions and
policy proposals. We have put a strong emphasis on a close working
relationship with the community, such as in our discussions on the Terms of
Use, the Privacy Policy, the Conflict of Interest Guidelines, the Legal
Fees Assistance Program, the Political Affiliation Policy, and now the
Trademark Policy.[5]

In our ongoing consultation regarding the Community logo, we have asked the
community to let us know whether to seek a collective membership mark
(which will help maintain protection against misuse by others, while
allowing free use by community members) or to abandon the registration of
the trademark and its protection by WMF.[4]  Collective membership mark is
an idea that we started researching a couple of months ago in light of
community comments in the trademarks discussion and had planned to present
it after finishing the research.

To be clear, we have no emotional investment in the outcome. This
consultation is the community's opportunity to let us know how the mark
should or should not be protected. As we stated before, we are fine
abandoning the trademark registration to put our limited resources against
other priorities, but this decision belongs to you and the Board [6]. To
ensure full community participation, we have invited users from all across
the world to take part in this and continue to encourage that.[4]

Our actions will be based on the community consultation underway and the
Board, not on an extra-community legal action.  We understand that an
opposition against the Community logo trademark has been filed, and we will
handle it as we do all litigation.  The litigation deadlines are a
non-issue to us because we will do what the community and Board tell us.
 Our goal is to determine the broader community intent through a community
consultation that is open to everyone. If the community and Board tell us
that we should abandon registration, we will do so; if you want it
protected, let us know.

Please join in at
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Logo/Request_for_consultation and
tell us what you would like us to do.  Also please feel free to participate
in the more comprehensive discussion with the community on trademark
practices here:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Trademark_practices_discussion

Thanks for your thoughts on this,

Geoff & Yana

[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Trademark_practices_discussion(trademark
statement)
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Trademark_practices_discussion(trademark
discussion)
[2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Community_Logo and
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_thematic_organizations#Is_it_correct_that_this_is_a_community_logo.3F

[3]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3ACommunity_Logo%2FReclaim_the_Logo&diff=5823947&oldid=5823876

[Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Request for consultation about the Community logo

[Yana Welinder]

Hi all,

The WMF legal team has started a Request for Consultation on whether WMF
should continue with the registration of the Community logo as a collective
membership mark:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Logo/Request_for_consultation. We
would like to invite you to voice your opinion on this question.

Many thanks for your input on this!

Thanks,
Geoff & Yana
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] It's time to reclaim the community logo

[Yana Welinder]

Thanks Nemo!  We have also posted two additional responses on the talk
page:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Community_Logo/Reclaim_the_Logo#Response_of_the_WMF_legal_team_and_request_to_hold_off_opposition
.

Best,
Yana


On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 3:34 PM, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote:

> Yana Welinder, 21/09/2013 21:12:
>
>  Hi all,
>>
>> We have posted our response to this on the trademark policy discussion
>> page
>> and with a request to hold off opposition.  We welcome your comments
>> there:
>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/**wiki/Talk:Trademark_practices_**
>> discussion#Response_from_the_**WMF_legal_department_and_**
>> request_to_hold_off_opposition<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Trademark_practices_discussion#Response_from_the_WMF_legal_department_and_request_to_hold_off_opposition>
>>
>
> We have answered, by the way.
> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/**wiki/Talk:Community_Logo/**
> Reclaim_the_Logo#Response_of_**the_WMF_legal_team_and_**
> request_to_hold_off_opposition<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Community_Logo/Reclaim_the_Logo#Response_of_the_WMF_legal_team_and_request_to_hold_off_opposition>
> **>
>
> Nemo
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] It's time to reclaim the community logo

[Yana Welinder]

Hi all,

We have posted our response to this on the trademark policy discussion page
and with a request to hold off opposition.  We welcome your comments there:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Trademark_practices_discussion#Response_from_the_WMF_legal_department_and_request_to_hold_off_opposition

Best,
Geoff & Yana


On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 7:50 AM, MZMcBride  wrote:

> Tomasz W. Kozlowski wrote:
> >We also want to note that this is in no way a legal action against the
> >Foundation, but a simple notice of opposition against the registration
> >of the logo in the European Union.
>
> Hi.
>
> Thanks for writing this up. I have a few questions.
>
> Was the logo trademarked only in the European Union?
>
> How is it possible to trademark a public domain image?
>
> Who at the Wikimedia Foundation worked to trademark this logo?
>
> What's meant by the "opposition end date" listed at wipo.net?
>
> MZMcBride
>
>
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[Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Announcing new Wikivoyage logo

[Yana Welinder]

Hi all,

We just issued an announcement on the Wikimedia Blog that the
Wikivoyage community has selected an official logo [1]:
https://blog.wikimedia.org/2013/09/05/wikivoyage-has-a-new-logo/

I would like to take this opportunity to thank everyone who submitted
designs and contributed comments, user AleXXw [2] for designing the
new logo, and Maggie Dennis [3] and user Rillke [4] for all their
incredible work in the logo selection process.

We welcome your help publicizing the new design and transitioning to
it wherever the old logo appears.

Many thanks for your help with this!

Yana Welinder, Legal Counsel

References:
[1] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikivoyage-Logo-v3-en.svg
[2] https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benutzer:AleXXw
[3] https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/User:Mdennis
[4] http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Rillke

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[Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Call for community input on our trademark policy and practices

[Yana Welinder]

Hi all,

On Friday, the Legal and Community Advocacy team posted a call for
community input on our trademark policy and practices:
http://blog.wikimedia.org/2013/06/07/call-for-community-input-trademark-policy-practices/


We have identified some trademark practices that we think are going well,
as well as some areas that could be improved. We have also raised specific
questions for discussion and seen great community engagement on this issue.
To date, community members have provided excellent input on how the
trademark policy can be clarified [1] and started translating our initial
trademark statement [2] into German, Greek, Spanish, French, Hebrew,
Italian, Korean, Russian, and Swedish to make the discussion more
approachable internationally. We would like to get as many community
members as possible to participate in the discussion and look forward to
your comments.

Many thanks for your wisdom and help with this!

Yana Welinder, Legal Counsel

References:
[1] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Trademark_practices_discussion
[2] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Trademark_practices_discussion
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