Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimédia France board handbook

2014-12-11 Thread charles andrès (WMCH) 
Thanks a lot Wikimedia France,

Another good exemple why we need to improve the Translation system on-wiki and 
allow to start from non-english source.

Charles





> Le 11 déc. 2014 à 10:39, Claudia Garád  a écrit :
> 
> Thanks for sharing Emeric and Jean-Fred!
> 
> I would love to see a translation of this important resource and I'm sure it 
> could be useful for others as well. :-)
> 
> Best
> Claudia
> 
> Am 11.12.2014 um 07:20 schrieb Emeric Vallespi:
>> Hi, and thanks for your support :)
>> 
>> Sure Winifred, I will add a learning pattern, actually it's on my to-do
>> list!
>> 
>> In order to improve our sharing with the movement, we are thinking about
>> translate some of documents we produced. Let us know if you think useful
>> to translate the WMFr Board Handbook, even if others already exists in
>> english.
>> 
> 
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why is bank transfer no longer possible?

2014-11-27 Thread charles andrès (WMCH) 
I just try and I am randomly redirected to the localize page or the WMF page…..




> Le 27 nov. 2014 à 09:20, rupert THURNER  a écrit :
> 
> The day before yesterday I was presented a fundraising banner in
> Switzerland which redirects to the donation page of Wmf, contrary the
> chapters page.
> 
> Rupert
> On Nov 26, 2014 3:18 PM, "Kim Bruning"  wrote:
> 
>> Just following up,
>> 
>> Has WMNL now received the sought information?
>> 
>> sincerely,
>>Kim Bruning
>> 
>> 
>> On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 08:42:01AM +0100, Lodewijk wrote:
>>> It seems everyone agrees it is an important method (although I'm not 100%
>>> sure that the US based people running the fundraiser fully comprehend - I
>>> am assuming this is the case), but there seems to be some reason why the
>>> WMF chooses to not make this option easily available. A reason they
>> choose
>>> not to disclose, but to be fuzzy about. I'm very sorry about this, and as
>>> Liam says, this fits in a trend with the Russian people no longer being
>>> allowed to donate. Maybe the two are connected, but this is all
>>> speculation.
>>> 
>>> I'm sorry to see these steps back from the more open attitude there was a
>>> few years back. It feels very much that we are, as a community, being fed
>>> canned press answers. But then, maybe there's a real need for that and
>>> there's a huge legal threat to making it easy to donate through bank
>>> transfer that cannot be disclosed...
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> Lodewijk
>>> 
>>> On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 1:34 AM, Kim Bruning 
>> wrote:
>>> 
 
 To amplify:
 
 Paying (business) taxes in The Netherlands now pretty much requires
 electronic payment to an IBAN Account; a.k.a. it is (now) the standard,
 default, baseline way to make payments at all.
 
 After registering a business, the very next action is to open an (IBAN)
 account. All extant dutch accounts that predate IBAN have been
>> converted
 to IBAN. All administration systems (must(!)) support IBAN.
 
 If you want to do business in the Netherlands, you need to support
>> IBAN.
 
 Note that many (most?) dutch citizens do not have credit cards or
>> paypal
 accounts.
 
 Further, IBAN is standardized throughout the euro-zone.
 
 iDEAL is nice to have and important. IBAN is a minimal baseline
 requirement.
 
 sincerely,
Kim
 
 
 
 On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 10:42:31PM +0100, Walter Vermeir wrote:
> Op 17-11-14 om 20:28 schreef Lodewijk:
> 
>> you back to the credit card page) or even via regular bank transfer
 (using
>> an IBAN) in the Netherlands. The donation page
> 
> Historically the structure of bank account numbers are very different
> from country to country. And making transfers from one bank account
>> to
> an other bank account, especially internationally, are/where complex
>> and
> expensive.
> 
> There is still a lot of room of improvement but nevertheless it has
> never been so easy and cheap to do international transfers as now.
> 
> The IBAN system - International Bank Account Number - is active in a
> fair chunk of the globe.
> 
> 
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Bank_Account_Number#Adoption
> 
> Inside the EURO-zone , 19 countries, ?? 337 million Europeans ,
>> people
> can make a bank transfer to an EURO-zone IBAN bank account without
> additional expenses.
> 
> Many more outside the EURO-zone can easy make international payments
>> to
> an IBAN bank account. That is not free ... but paypal is certainly
>> not
> free also. The costs are just deducted from your donation.
> 
> 
> The WMF has always has been a huge fan of payment by credit cards.
> Understandable, the WMF is founded in the country of the Credit card.
> 
> But that can make you blind to the fact that other people are used to
> total other payment systems.
> 
> A couple of years ago I discovered that there where still people
>> using
> cheques in France. That came as a total surprise to me. I remember my
> dad using cheques 30 years ago. I never came in to contact with a
>> cheque
> since then. To my knowledge cheques where long gone. History.
>> Extinct.
> 
> But ... when you have the financial business concept of the WMF -
>> when
> you need money beg for it - the donation channel should be tailer
>> made
> for the specific common way of payment used by the person who is so
>> good
> to be willing to make an donation.
> 
> Walter
> 
> 
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of Algeria Wikimedians User Group

2014-11-02 Thread charles andrès (WMCH) 
Bienvenu(e)s!



> Le 1 nov. 2014 à 19:17, Carlos M. Colina  a écrit :
> 
> Dear all,
> 
> We are pleased to announce the recognition [1] of the third Wikimedia User 
> Group from the Arab World and the fifth from Africa: Algeria Wikimedians User 
> Group.
> 
> Our Wikimedian brothers and sisters in Algeria have for a long time wanted to 
> associate and multiply their contributions tigether, since as early as 2009, 
> when started attempts to create projects in different languages spoken in 
> Algeria in the Incubator, an education program in an Algerian university, and 
> participating in Wiki Loves Monuments in 2013 Algeria, which was quite a 
> success and created a lot of awareness at a local level about the need of 
> making more and more knowledge open in Algeria.
> 
> So, now we have them joining the family of affiliates.Please, let's give them 
> a warm welcome!
> 
> Soyez les bienvenus, amis algériens!
> 
> Carlos
> 
> 
> 1: 
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee/Resolutions/Algeria_Wikimedians_User_Group_-_Liaison_approval,_October_2014
> 
> 
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