Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia-l Digest, Vol 192, Issue 28

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>1. Re: Brand Project: Who are we as a movement? (Aron Demian)
>2. Re: Brand Project: Who are we as a movement? (Gerard Meijssen)
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> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Aron Demian 
> To: Wikimedia Mailing List 
> Cc:
> Bcc:
> Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2020 11:24:51 +0100
> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Brand Project: Who are we as a movement?
> My 2 cents: Imho the pressure from English Wikipedia on other projects of
> the movement is very realistic in many kinds of matters, that I've
> experienced myself too. Other projects are not independent socially or
> culturally, the rules, practices, expectations and editorial behaviour is
> strongly related to that on enwp with all its positive *and* negative
> benefits. Often the negative benefits seem to outweigh the positive,
> unfortunately.
>
> Aron
>
> On Sun, 15 Mar 2020 at 11:17, Peter Southwood <
> peter.southw...@telkomsa.net>
> wrote:
>
> > It is grossly unrealistic to blame English Wikipedia and its editing
> > community for what you appear to consider the shortcomings of other
> > Wikipedias.
>
> En: does not require or pressurise other projects to comply with its
> > editorial standards, which are those developed by en:WP, and for en:WP.
> > Other projects are free to set and use their own standards for content,
> > within the general WMF terms of use, and generally do. If they choose to
> > emulate en:WP that is their prerogative.
> > If you think that Cebuan Wikipedia does a better job of informing on the
> > subject matter it covers than other projects, and would like to convince
> > other projects that this is a realistic and rational opinion, and that
> they
> > should follow that example, you are free to produce documentary evidence
> > from experts that this is the case, and present it to the editing
> > communities of those projects for consideration.
> > If Commons are exceeding their remit by refusing to host material that is
> > not used on en:WP, that is not the policy or the fault of the en:WP
> > community who have no authority over Commons.
> > As a general rule, when discussing a topic where there is scope for
> > confusion, there is less likely for confusion to occur when you are
> > sufficiently specific when referring to the ambiguous entities.
> > Cheers,
> > Peter
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On
> > Behalf Of Gerard Meijssen
> > Sent: 15 March 2020 08:37
> > To: Wikimedia Mailing List
> > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Brand Project: Who are we as a movement?
> >
> > Hoi,
> > By making the point that there is no Wikipedia AND that almost
> universally
> > but particularly people who buy into English Wikipedia consider Wikipedia
> > English Wikipedia, I expected that this is understood. I then address
> > English Wikipedia specifically because it is its conventions that prevent
> > the sum of all our knowledge to be shared.
> >
> > Just to make that point specific, Cebuan Wikipedia does a better job
> > informing on the total of the subject matters it covers, it is a project
> of
> > a father who wants his children to have access to knowledge in their
> > maternal language. From a Wiki point of view he deserves praise and
> > gratitude in stead he gets scorn because it is against English Wikipedia
> > conventions. Furthermore the approach of using data to bring knowledge in
> > other languages is frustrated from within WMF.  We could do a better
> job, a
> > job that will work for any language but it is actively discouraged. The
> > result is that we do NOT share in the sum of all knowledge, not even the
> > knowledge that is available to us. In other words, English Wikipedia
> > conventions prevent us from working towards our stated goal.
> > Thanks,
> >GerardM
> >
> > On Sun, 15 Mar 2020 at 06:19, Peter Southwood <
> > peter.southw...@telkomsa.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Gerard, You start off by correctly specifying that Wikipedia is about
> 300
> > > projects and make several good points about how people confuse
> Wikipedia
> > > with English Wikipedia, how this bias adversely affects various other
> > > projects, and then claim that "Wikipedia" is "universally understood to
> > be
> > > highly toxic".  Are you referring to all 300 odd projects, or are you
> > using

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia-l Digest, Vol 178, Issue 15

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>1. Invitation to organize Wiki Loves Love 2019 + to  translate
>   (Romaine Wiki)
>2. Re: Blocks which appear to demonstrate prejudice against
>   minorities (Vi to)
>3. Wikimedia+Education Conference registration is nowopen
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> From: Romaine Wiki 
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> Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2019 11:57:55 +0100
> Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Invitation to organize Wiki Loves Love 2019 + to
translate
> *Wiki Loves Love
> <
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Love_2019
>*
> (WLL) is an International photography competition of Wikimedia Commons
> happening in the month of February 2019 to document love testimonials.
>
> The primary goal of the competition is to document love testimonials
> through human cultural diversity such as monuments, ceremonies, snapshot
of
> tender gesture, happenings like Valentine's Day, and miscellaneous objects
> used as symbol of love; to illustrate articles in the worldwide free
> encyclopedia Wikipedia, and other Wikimedia Foundation (WMF) projects.
> February is around the corner and Wiki Loves Love team invites you to
> organize and promote WLL19 in your country and join hands with us to
> celebrate love and document it on Wikimedia Commons. The theme of 2019
> is *Festivals,
> ceremonies and celebrations of love*.
>
> To organize Wiki Loves Love in your region, sign up at WLL Organizers
> 
> page. You can also simply support and spread love by helping us translate
> <
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Love_2019
>
> the Commons page in your local language which is open for translation
> <
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Love_2019/Translations
>.
>
>
> The contest runs from 1-28 February 2019. Independent from if there is a
> local contest organised in your country, you can help by making the photo
> contest Wiki Loves Love more accessible and available to more people in
the
> world by translating the upload wizard, templates and pages to your local
> language. See for an overview of templates/pages to be translated at
> our Translations
> page
> <
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Love_2019/Translations
>.
>
>
> Imagine...The sum of all love!
>
> Wiki Loves Love team
> <
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Love_2019/International_Team
>
>
>
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> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Vi to 
> To: Wikimedia Mailing List 
> Cc:
> Bcc:
> Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2019 12:03:44 +0100
> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Blocks which appear to demonstrate prejudice
against minorities
> The lobby of high voltage warning signs disagrees.
>
> Vito
>
> Il giorno lun 7 gen 2019 alle ore 11:37 Yaroslav Blanter 
> ha scritto:
>
> > Well, in 2019 people should already have come to the notion that
blocking
> > locally an acting steward is not really a good idea.
> >
> > Cheers
> > Yaroslav
> >
> > On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 11:21 AM Vi to  wrote:
> >
> > > Because of a truly great idea
> > > <
> > >
> >
https://am.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%E1%88%8D%E1%8B%A9:Log/block=%E1%8A%A0%E1%89%A3%E1%88%8D%3ATeles
> > > >
> > > the involved user's admin/bureaucrat access was revoked
> > > <
> > >
> >
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Log?type=rights==Codex+Sinaiticus%40amwiki===
> > > >
> > > by Marco Aurelio.
> > >
> > > Vito
> > >
> > > Il giorno lun 7 gen 2019 alle ore 11:02 Amir Sarabadani <
> > > ladsgr...@gmail.com>
> > > ha scritto:
> > >
> > > > Given the response on the talk page [1] I think it's clear
violation of
> > > > nondiscrimination policy [2]
> > > >
> > > > [1] "promotion of homosexuality will not be tolerated here nor will
it
> > be
> > > > forced down our throats to suit anyone's international political
agenda
> > > if
> > > > you expect Ethiopians to take part."
> > > > [2]
https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Resolution:Nondiscrimination
> > > >
> > > > Best
> > > > On Wed, Jan 2, 2019, 23:09 Risker  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >  I note that we are talking about the block of one single user on
one
> > > > > single project; this particular account has thousands of edits
over
> > > > about a
> > > > > dozen projects, but is "attached" to hundreds of Wikimedia

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