* Josh Lim wrote:
In the absence of any meaningful alternative, what should we do then?
Close down Wikipedia Zero and let the developing world languish in the
dark?
Technically it would be entirely possible for service providers to offer
access to Wikipedia for free even if the Wikimedia
On 02/04/2015 02:54, Mike Godwin wrote:
Andreas writes:
Prominent organisations campaigning for a free and open web very
strongly disagree with your view.
I said there are no facts, and you responded by citing opinion pieces.
That's cool, but opinions are not themselves facts.
Furthermore, in
hi mike,
while i love irony, and value your opinion a lot, i find the tone of this
email a little harsh, not to call it unfair. net neutrality targets
censorship in some countries, but price to access internet in most
countries, which is antitrust or competition law. You are well known for
free
Rupert Thurner writes:
while i love irony, and value your opinion a lot, i find the tone of this
email a little harsh, not to call it unfair.
I'm strangely untroubled by harsh, but I'm glad you don't call it
unfair. I don't think I was unfair. Besides, when someone is as
insignificant as I am,
: 31 March 2015 09:27 AM
To: Wikimedia Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Introducing Kourosh Karimkhany, Vice President
of Strategic Partnerships
Dear Gerard,
your arguments are just emotional rhetorics. Saying that white,
privileged and well educated people aren't allowed to critize ways
Hi Kourosh!
The Wikimedia Foundation's vision is of a world in which every single
human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. Knowledge, not
unreliable assertions. Presently we offer unreliable assertions.
I would be grateful for any support you can offer us in fostering
GerardM writes:
With Wikipedia Zero people have access to knowledge that they would not
have otherwise. It is well established that having information readily
available is an important indicator for further development. Not having
Wikipedia available is absolutely a worse situation than
If only my emails were wiki-editable. Thanks for the correction
regarding my affiliation.
Seems to me that in its current form it's just going to drag
along---Zero either needs a clear procedural rethink or it needs to be
would down.
The only two possible choices, eh?
--Mike
On Wed, Apr
Er, Mike, this is a minor point but your signature seems to indicate that
you were general counsel for over a millennium---very impressive!
Personally I think that Zero should be evaluated from an impact
perspective. While it's indisputable that it's strategically aligned with
the WMF mission, if
Dear Gerard,
your arguments are just emotional rhetorics. Saying that white, privileged
and well educated people aren't allowed to critize ways how
first-world-led telecoms (like Orange, Telenor) are spreading a wrong,
non-open internet in developing countries is just plain emotional
rhetoric far
Hi Jens,
In the absence of any meaningful alternative, what should we do then? Close
down Wikipedia Zero and let the developing world languish in the dark? We talk
of a more sustainable way to bring free knowledge (which is far more than
Wikipedia)”, yet we’re not seeing anything coming out
On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 12:05 PM, Mike Godwin mnemo...@gmail.com wrote:
It should be noted that the Federal Communications Commission, in its
recent Report and Order requiring network neutrality for American
telcos and service providers, expressly refused to draw a categorical
conclusion
On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 8:34 PM, Anders Wennersten m...@anderswennersten.se
wrote:
I can agree on the dilemma you present.
But would not a better solution then the close down on Wikipedia Zero, be
to close down the projects that is not run compatible with the values
underlying the idea of a
On Sat, Mar 28, 2015 at 7:22 AM, Tanweer Morshed wiki.tanw...@gmail.com
wrote:
Welcome to Kourosh! Wikimedians around the world have already been creating
partnerships under various programs including GLAMs and with universities,
institutions etc. This is rational from the sense that this new
Andreas writes:
Prominent organisations campaigning for a free and open web very
strongly disagree with your view.
I said there are no facts, and you responded by citing opinion pieces.
That's cool, but opinions are not themselves facts.
Furthermore, in some circles, I've been considered from
On Apr 1, 2015 6:03 PM, Josh Lim jamesjoshua...@yahoo.com wrote:
Hi Jens,
In the absence of any meaningful alternative, what should we do then?
Close down Wikipedia Zero and let the developing world languish in the
dark? We talk of a more sustainable way to bring free knowledge (which is
far
: 31 March 2015 09:27 AM
To: Wikimedia Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Introducing Kourosh Karimkhany, Vice President of
Strategic Partnerships
Dear Gerard,
your arguments are just emotional rhetorics. Saying that white, privileged and
well educated people aren't allowed to critize ways
Hi Josh et al.,
as you seemed a bit upset, I want to take the chance to answer you to
better understand my position.
Taking your brutal honesty into account I will try to be the same. I
wasn't sure especially about that point in the discussion, because my
knowledge about the access situations
On 15-04-01 03:57 PM, Jens Best wrote:
For me (and other students) going online wasn't cheap back in the 90s
Perhaps the date is the issue here, but is this some attempt at humour?
Wasn't cheap? Are you seriously comparing your student lifestyle
with the socioeconomic reality of the people
Hoi,
With Wikipedia Zero people have access to knowledge that they would not
have otherwise. It is well established that having information readily
available is an important indicator for further development. Not having
Wikipedia available is absolutely a worse situation than having it.
Your
I’m sorry, Andreas, but I cannot in good conscience support your stance calling
for the closure of Wikipedia Zero, coming from a country that has so far
benefited from the program not only in terms of the number of new readers that
we have, but also potentially pave the way for more users as
Saying that it is a normal term in the USA doesn't contradict the
impression Andreas has.
2015-03-29 14:03 GMT+02:00 Chris Keating chriskeatingw...@gmail.com:
I find the term Advancement Department has a somewhat Orwellian ring.
It's quite a normal term in the USA. For instance, the
Well,
first of all, welcome Kourosh.
I'm looking forward to see how the reality of this exciting job description
gonna look like. For me this also sounds like a clear move to a more
politically positioned understanding of this aspect of the growing
importance of the Wikimedia-Movment globally.
The recent Newsweek story on the Wifione / IIPM admin corruption case[1]
has clear implications for Wikipedia Zero.
Wikipedia Zero creates hundreds of millions of passive Wikipedia users who:
- Cannot see the sources of a Wikipedia article (I believe SMS users cannot
even see which statements
I can agree on the dilemma you present.
But would not a better solution then the close down on Wikipedia Zero,
be to close down the projects that is not run compatible with the
values underlying the idea of a free and open web?.
I am (still) of the opinion that is is of utmost importance for
I find the term Advancement Department has a somewhat Orwellian ring.
It's quite a normal term in the USA. For instance, the Council for
Advancement and Support of Education is the (global, but US-dominated)
professional body for university fundraisers.
Chris
I find the term Advancement Department has a somewhat Orwellian ring.
The FAQ mentions that –
The new role is focused on creating value for the Wikimedia movement and on
supporting our ability to fulfil our mission. Value can be understood in
many different ways. We believe that it can be about
Welcome, Kourosh!
On Sun, Mar 29, 2015 at 7:59 AM, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@gmail.com wrote:
I find the term Advancement Department has a somewhat Orwellian ring.
The FAQ mentions that –
The new role is focused on creating value for the Wikimedia movement and on
supporting our ability to
On Fri, 27 Mar 2015 23:17:20 +0100
Cristian Consonni kikkocrist...@gmail.com wrote:
Welcome, Kourosh!
Cristian
Welcome, Kourosh, and good luck!
Regards,
-- Shlomi Fish
--
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Shlomi Fish
Dear Wikimedians,
In order to encourage the expansion of knowledge, we’ve been considering
new ways to support and develop the work you do. Collaboration is an
essential part of the Wikimedia movement, and today, I’m excited to let you
know about a new addition at the Wikimedia Foundation that
Welcome to the wikimedia movement, Kourosh. Looking forward to seeing the
partnerships and initiatives that can be grown that support our mission.
Sydney
Sydney Poore
User:FloNight
Wikipedian in Residence
at Cochrane Collaboration
On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 4:13 PM, Lila Tretikov
Welcome, Kourosh!
Cristian
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Welcome Kourosh.
In Wikimedian spirit, i would like to take the opportunity to ask the silly
question: is the structure of what all titles in Wikimedia mean, described
somewhere? Because to be honest, I'm getting all confused about who ranks
what in the structure of directors, vice presidents,
Lodewijk: there is this interactive org chart, but I do not know how
official it is: http://orgcharts.wmflabs.org/#5085aa408fedf26b6801/
*Med vänliga hälsningar,Jan Ainali*
Verksamhetschef, Wikimedia Sverige http://wikimedia.se
0729 - 67 29 48
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Fantastic news and a great advancement - welcome Kourosh!
SJ
On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 4:13 PM, Lila Tretikov l...@wikimedia.org wrote:
Dear Wikimedians,
In order to encourage the expansion of knowledge, we’ve been considering
new ways to support and develop the work you do. Collaboration is
Welcome Kourosh. (:
Can you give us some examples of partnerships that you will be developing
or supporting?
It would also be really interesting to hear how your role relates to the
kinds of institutional relationships that other departments have formed
over the years. I'd love to hear an
Welcome Kourosh to the Wikimedia family :)
Cheers
Ali Haidar Khan
FDC Member
Treasurer, Wikimedia Bangladesh
On Mar 28, 2015 6:02 AM, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote:
Welcome Kourosh. (:
Can you give us some examples of partnerships that you will be developing
or supporting?
It would
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