Re: [Wikimedia-l] About the concentration of resources in SF (itwas: Communication plans for community engagement

2013-08-27 Thread Balázs Viczián
Would be nice to see feasibility checks before outsourcing some tasks to
chapters to make sure they are prepared for the task.

Cheers,
Balazs


2013/8/26 Nathan nawr...@gmail.com

 Hi Romaine,

 In the absence of any practical description of what an office on each
 populated continent would do, or what concrete organizational role it
 would fulfill (other than bringing communities together), it seems
 unlikely that the WMF is going to immediately reverse its relatively
 recent decision to follow a strategy directly contrary to what you
 propose. The model that Quim outlines makes much more sense; the work
 of the movement can be dispersed more naturally when stakeholders take
 on projects and initiatives that the WMF can support with grant
 funding. These projects have evidently had far and away more success
 than either general funding of WMF affiliates or expanding the WMF
 itself into far-away lands.

 ~Nate

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] About the concentration of resources in SF (itwas: Communication plans for community engagement

2013-08-27 Thread Quim Gil

On 08/27/2013 08:37 AM, Balázs Viczián wrote:

Would be nice to see feasibility checks before outsourcing some tasks to
chapters to make sure they are prepared for the task.


Sure, these checks are part of the FDC / IEG / any decent grant process. 
Business as usual.


Also important:

Tech projects aiming to merge code in an existing project also need to 
be in sync with the maintainers and the community. This is why we have a 
separation between Featured project ideas (ready to be taken) and Raw 
projects (not yet filtered) at


https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mentorship_programs/Possible_projects

Even the featured project ideas must get a reality check as soon as 
someone steps in at a given time for a specific program.


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Quim Gil
Technical Contributor Coordinator @ Wikimedia Foundation
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Qgil

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] About the concentration of resources in SF (itwas: Communication plans for community engagement

2013-07-28 Thread Michał Buczyński
Hi,

+1 to this question.

If we learn that there are items where we are invited to the MediaWiki and some 
estimates how many e.g. developerdays we would need to finance so we know it is 
possible.

However, we should mind that most of the chapters are not really development 
houses and we are lacking experience in this area.

michał.
 
 28 lipca 2013 5:41 Craig Franklin cfrank...@halonetwork.net napisał(a):


 
  Hi Erik (and whomever from WMDE),
 
 For the benefit of chapters that are interested in this space, can you
 offer any examples of projects that are of an appropriate size and type for
 a chapter to take on? I think that most chapters* would be willing to help
 out in the software development space if we got a bit of direction on how
 we could be the most useful.
 
 Cheers,
 Craig Franklin
 
 * Keeping in mind that my chapter probably wouldn't have the capacity to
 start anything in this space for at least another twelve months.
 
 
 On 27 July 2013 09:57, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote:
 
  On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 2:39 PM, rupert THURNER
  rupert.thur...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   If WMF is serious about letting development activities grow in other
   countries this might be taken into account in FDCs allocation policy.
 
  For my part, I'm happy to offer feedback to the FDC on plans related
  to the development of engineering capacity in FDC-funded
  organizations. I'm sure Wikimedia Germany, too, would be happy to
  share its experiences growing the Wikidata development team. I'd love
  to find ways to bootstrap more engineering capacity across the
  movement, as so many of our shared challenges have a software
  engineering component. If any folks on-list want to touch base on
  these questions at Wikimania, drop me a note. :)
 
  Erik
 
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  VP of Engineering and Product Development, Wikimedia Foundation
 
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