Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement about changes to the Board

On 29.12.2015 02:17, MZMcBride wrote: --- ; Approved: Patricio Lorente, Alice Wiegand, Frieda Brioschi, Jimmy Wales, Stu West, Jan-Bart de Vreede, Guy Kawasaki, Denny Vrandečić, ; Oppose: Dariusz Jemielniak, James Heilman --- This is a somewhat interesting breakdown. I'm also paying close

[Wikimedia-l] Announcement about changes to the Board

As Patricio stated the "Board has a responsibility to ... ensure that the Board functions with *mutual confidence*" My fellow trustees need no reason beyond lack of trust in me to justify my removal. No reason beyond that is needed per our board by laws. There was not any COI or legal

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement about changes to the Board

James, Thank you for framing the issue. In the absence of any alternative claim, let me respond to the "trust" issue. "Trust" is not a thing in itself. One person trusts another with a certain responsibility, or to accomplish a certain task. An unqualified "I trust you" is generally the kind of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement about changes to the Board

On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 8:39 PM, James Heilman wrote: > As Patricio stated the "Board has a responsibility to ... ensure that the > Board functions with *mutual confidence*" > > My fellow trustees need no reason beyond lack of trust in me to justify my > removal. No reason

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement about changes to the Board

Hey Doc, The community wants to know about what happened. I think, you need to talk about this. Regards, Bodhisattwa On 29 Dec 2015 07:25, "Nathan" wrote: > On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 8:39 PM, James Heilman wrote: > > > As Patricio stated the "Board has a

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Bodhisattwa and Nathan, If I imagine myself in James' shoes, I would be thinking a lot right now about: * What are my legal obligations around what I may or may not say * What are the difficult-to-predict consequences to WMF, to Wikimedia, and/or to oneself of saying various things * What

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement about changes to the Board

Hi all - I have to start this email with a pair of disclaimers: I'm both not a lawyer, and I've never been on the board of an organization headquartered in Florida. However, I have been on multiple California-based boards - none that had nearly the revenue of WMF, but some whose assets did run in

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement about changes to the Board

On 28 December 2015 at 18:29, Patricio Lorente wrote: > Dear all, > > Today the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees voted to remove one of the > Trustees, Dr. James Heilman, from the Board. His term ended effective > immediately. > > This was not a decision the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement about changes to the Board

Here is the resolution removing James. https://m.wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Resolution:James_Heilman_Removal On Tuesday, December 29, 2015, Risker wrote: > On 28 December 2015 at 18:29, Patricio Lorente > > wrote: > > > Dear

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement about changes to the Board

Hi, This official statement is very much weak and does not state any reason of such removal. A rather serious and transparent explanation to the community is needed. Regards, Bodhisattwa On 29 Dec 2015 05:22, "Risker" wrote: > On 28 December 2015 at 18:29, Patricio Lorente

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement about changes to the Board

Under Florida law (https://www.flsenate.gov/Laws/Statutes/2011/617.0808), there is a distinction between removals for cause and removals not for cause (https://www.flsenate.gov/Laws/Statutes/2011/617.0808). Removals not for cause require a 2/3 majority (this standard was still met). If you are

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I really, really hope that, as fast as one can be written, a resolution explaining more fully the circumstances of James' departure from the board is written and passed. If there are legal reasons that mean that his departure cannot be more fully explained, that itself needs to be noted - and I

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I am hopeful that the resolution, when it is published, will provide us with more information. IMO, speed is less important here than the completeness of the information. I'd prefer a more thorough explanation provided tomorrow than a hasty and potentially incomplete explanation today. Thanks,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement about changes to the Board

Yes, it's still a Florida organization. You can see the resolution cites https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Bylaws#Section_7._Removal , which in turn cites Section 617.0808(1), which is what I linked to ( https://www.flsenate.gov/Laws/Statutes/2011/617.0808) Matt Flaschen On Monday, December

[Wikimedia-l] Announcement about changes to the Board

Dear all, Today the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees voted to remove one of the Trustees, Dr. James Heilman, from the Board. His term ended effective immediately. This was not a decision the Board took lightly. The Board has a responsibility to the Wikimedia movement and the Wikimedia

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I really really hope that the full and transparent text of the resolution is published as soon as is reasonably possible. James has the trust of a colossal number of movement members, and seeing him suddenly removed short of allegations of financial malfeasance or something to that effect is

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement about changes to the Board

Dear Patricio, as James is (or was) a community-elected member, it would have been nice to include reasons why the Board took this decision in the announcement. It gives (at least me) the impression of deliberate non-openness, and I don't like it. Th. 2015-12-29 0:52 GMT+01:00 Risker

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Add me as well.​ ​Eager to know what happened.​ ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe:

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Add my voice to those waiting for the Board to provide something closer to the minimum necessary context for this decision. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines New messages to:

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I'd like to suggest we look at this decision from as objective and broad a perspective as possible, and consider any statement (or lack of any statement) from the Wikimedia Foundation from that perspective. My initial thoughts are that the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees are an entity that:

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Pine, the resolution was published, and it does not provide any information. https://m.wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Resolution:James_Heilman_Removal Matt, why would FL law apply to Board decisions? WMF is based in Cali. Are they still officially a Florida entity? Best, Th. 2015-12-29 1:39

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Quite surprised by this action, it does indeed seem unprecedented and I would hope the board would release a statement as to why this decision was made. Unless there are legal reasons that mean the board cannot disclose why, I would think that an explanation should be provided. Steve Crossin

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement about changes to the Board

On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 5:45 PM, Pete Forsyth wrote: > > With this action, eight Trustees with little accountability overruled > several hundred volunteers and another Trustee who literally earned the > most support votes of any Trustee in the organization's history. > >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement about changes to the Board

Removing a board member is definitely a serious issue. The community wants to know every aspect of the incident, why suddenly James has been removed. Regards, Tanweer Morshed -- Regards, Tanweer Morshed ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at:

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If he were in favor, it would've been a simple resignation. I'm not sure why it's surprising he would oppose it. On Dec 28, 2015 6:39 PM, "Ilario Valdelli" wrote: > On 29.12.2015 02:17, MZMcBride wrote: > >> --- >> ; Approved: Patricio Lorente, Alice Wiegand, Frieda Brioschi,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement about changes to the Board

Removing a board member is definitely a serious issue. The community wants to know every aspects of the incident, why suddenly James have been removed. Regards Tanweer -- Regards, Tanweer Morshed ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at:

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Todd Allen wrote: >If he were in favor, it would've been a simple resignation. Yes. We're left to presume that James forced a vote here by refusing to step down voluntarily. >I'm not sure why it's surprising he would oppose it. Right, that part isn't surprising. But discounting the unsurprising

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement about changes to the Board

Hello everybody. What grieves me most is that this edit was done by only a few people, however powerful [1] And to make this edit a lot of work and far more trust was involved... [2] [1] https://wikimediafoundation.org/w/index.php?title=Board_of_Trustees=104353=103933 [2]

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