Re: [Wikimedia-l] Future of Wikipedia

2015-07-15 Thread Jane Darnell
I don't think there is anything to fear at all and I am also not sad to see the encyclopedias go the way of LP's. Goodbye and good riddance. I have always been addicted to reading and get annoyed in the bus when it moves too fast for me to read something I see outside somewhere. As a child I

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Future of Wikipedia

2015-07-15 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On 2015-07-15 06:47, Pine W wrote: I agree that finding correct, accurate, current, and NPOV information can be a challenging task, and media literacy is an important skill these days. Good research tasks today go beyond the goal of finding just any book, magazine, journal or webpage that

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Future of Wikipedia

2015-07-15 Thread Jane Darnell
Yaroslav, I agree with the second part but disagree with the first part. I think there is still lots and lots of low-hanging fruit, but because we tightened up policies to only include new articles with links to digitized and paper sources, we demand higher skills of Wikipedian editors. The

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Future of Wikipedia

2015-07-15 Thread Emilio J . Rodríguez-Posada
It is interesting to see the reactions, but it just shows the change in how information is saved, disseminated and consumed, from analog to digital medium. I am more worried about how many encyclopedias have closed in the last years. We are moving to a world where Wikipedia is the de facto

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Future of Wikipedia

2015-07-15 Thread Anders Wennersten
Oh, the encyclopedias in books, my childhood love and betrayed love! I read encyclopedias as other read comic books, and even read books like statistical yearbooks, table per table And my sense of betrayal when I learnt that wile I thought I had learned knowledge I instead had in way learned

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Future of Wikipedia

2015-07-14 Thread Amy Vossbrinck
Hi Renata: Please don't despair. When I was growing up (I'm pushing 69) there were definitely encyclopedias but they surely were not the *only research tools*. Information was available, you just had to really dig for it - go to the library, comb through the card catalogue, go into the stacks,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Future of Wikipedia

2015-07-14 Thread Pete Forsyth
Thank you for sharing this, Renata -- cool video! But I think I'm taking the exact opposite from it. It makes me happy. It seems to me these kids love information -- and are eager to say so! -- and love books, too, most of them expressed sadness at the idea of books disappearing (but also, shock

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Future of Wikipedia

2015-07-14 Thread geni
On 14 July 2015 at 21:22, Renata St renataw...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. So I saw this YouTube video yesterday about kids reacting to printed encyclopedia: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7aJ3xaDMuMnoredirect=1 It made me sad. And very fearful of the future of Wikipedia. These kids do not

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Future of Wikipedia

2015-07-14 Thread Renata St
I know this probably sounds like I had to hike 20 miles to school with snow up to my waist - which I didn't - but I offer it only to say that we humans are a pretty persistent and creative bunch and when determined enough we can make things work. Sometimes, having to really dig for

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Future of Wikipedia

2015-07-14 Thread Renata St
These kids do not appreciate knowledge and information because they grew up with its abundance. When I was growing up (and I am only 30), printed encyclopedia was the only research tool. You would have been 8 years old when Encarta was launched. I am from a small non-English speaking

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Future of Wikipedia

2015-07-14 Thread Pine W
I agree that finding correct, accurate, current, and NPOV information can be a challenging task, and media literacy is an important skill these days. Good research tasks today go beyond the goal of finding just any book, magazine, journal or webpage that asserts a certain fact. Pine

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Future of Wikipedia

2015-07-14 Thread Keegan Peterzell
On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 3:41 PM, Pete Forsyth petefors...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you for sharing this, Renata -- cool video! But I think I'm taking the exact opposite from it. It makes me happy. It seems to me these kids love information -- and are eager to say so! -- and love books, too,