Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement Strategy: Last chance to review the recommendations, next steps

2020-02-20 Thread Pine W
I'm fine with people having some private discussions. The more formal the discussion is, and the more public the implications of the discussions are, then the more I think that the discussions should be public with the exception of discussions involving information which there is a strong reason

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement Strategy: Last chance to review the recommendations, next steps

2020-02-20 Thread Chris Gates via Wikimedia-l
Hi, The IRC channels where public, on-topic discussions are held usually have public logging, like #wikimedia-office. And regardless of the channel, discussions within them have no bearing on onwiki actions. In other words, binding decisions cannot be made solely on IRC. That is very different

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement Strategy: Last chance to review the recommendations, next steps

2020-02-19 Thread Todd Allen
I don't like those either. I tend to ignore email unless there's a very good reason for private communication. If not, well, post a message on my talk page. The recording is incomplete. A complete recording would be the raw video of the session without cuts or edits, and with everyone there aware

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement Strategy: Last chance to review the recommendations, next steps

2020-02-19 Thread Aron Manning
Hi Todd, I'm not sure how your comment about "backchanneling" is applicable to a recording made in public. Please express your views in a good-faith and respectful manner. On Wikimedia projects, we do things in full public view. To prove your point, please link to the log of the irc channels

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement Strategy: Last chance to review the recommendations, next steps

2020-02-19 Thread Todd Allen
Nicole, While I appreciate you taking the time to respond, this is exactly why we distrust this kind of backchanneling. If you have something to say, you say it publicly, open to criticism and dispute. You don't say it in a "salon" or a "survey" or anything else insulated from that. On Wikimedia

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement Strategy: Last chance to review the recommendations, next steps

2020-02-18 Thread Nicole Ebber
Hello again, I now realised that none of the participants in the audience was aware of us recording them, and that we aren't able to identify them to ask for their consent. We are not going to release the full video, but are of course happy to answer potential questions and create more clarity

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement Strategy: Last chance to review the recommendations, next steps

2020-02-17 Thread Nicole Ebber
Hello Todd, Thanks for your question. The video is indeed incomplete. We cut if for the viewer's comfort, as the original version is ~60 mins long, and has questions and interaction with the audience at All Hands. Our main objective for this video was to focus on conveying the broad context and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement Strategy: Last chance to review the recommendations, next steps

2020-02-16 Thread Pine W
Hello, A brief note to say thanks to Mehrdad and Rupika for their support of the January and/or February Wikimedia Café events. Also, thanks to volunteers who have been involved in the strategy process for their participation, thanks to User:Fuzheado for the one page summary of the strategy

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement Strategy: Last chance to review the recommendations, next steps

2020-02-14 Thread Todd Allen
Hello Nicole, The second video seems to be incomplete. There are, for example, several jump cuts, e.g., at 05:07, 11:08, 17:08, 22:31, etc. At 11:14 the presenters invite questions or comments, and at 41:32 someone is clearly being called upon to offer one, but they are not shown in the video.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement Strategy: Last chance to review the recommendations, next steps

2020-02-14 Thread Info WorldUniversity
Thanks for this great plan of action or policy designed to achieve a major or overall aim - regarding the sum of all knowledge. I enjoyed your podcast - https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:WP_72_-_Wikimedia_2030,_a_strategy_interview.mp3#%7B%7Bint%3Afiledesc%7D%7D - in particular. (Seems like

[Wikimedia-l] Movement Strategy: Last chance to review the recommendations, next steps

2020-02-14 Thread Nicole Ebber
Hi everyone, We’re in week 4 of community conversations about the movement strategy recommendations. Thank you to everyone who has already taken part. The community conversations will continue until Friday, February 21 - you can get involved on Meta[1] in Arabic, English, French, German, Hindi,