Re: [Wikimedia-l] Planned school curriculum by MPAA

2013-09-26 Thread Laura Hale
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 9:09 PM, Tyler Romeo tylerro...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 2:33 PM, Andrew Lih andrew@gmail.com wrote: I'd be OK if they simply gave some space in the training materials to talk about public domain, free licenses and fair use. That's not likely to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Planned school curriculum by MPAA

2013-09-26 Thread Andrew Lih
On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 12:40 AM, geni geni...@gmail.com wrote: On 25 September 2013 19:33, Andrew Lih andrew@gmail.com wrote: It has something to do with countering falsehoods and educating folks about the full range of content rights. Their 2nd grade materials state: Property

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Planned school curriculum by MPAA

2013-09-25 Thread Andrew Lih
I disagree that this is simply political. It is very much a culture of ownership -- and a corporate one at that -- being instituted earlier to American kids. If you remember, it was exactly this problem that inspired Lawrence Lessig to start Creative Commons in the first place. He observed that

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Planned school curriculum by MPAA

2013-09-25 Thread Andrew Lih
It has something to do with countering falsehoods and educating folks about the full range of content rights. Their 2nd grade materials state: Property comes in many forms: when we buy a book, we own that book. It’s our property, but we don’t own the right to reproduce that book and then sell it

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Planned school curriculum by MPAA

2013-09-25 Thread Tyler Romeo
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 2:33 PM, Andrew Lih andrew@gmail.com wrote: I'd be OK if they simply gave some space in the training materials to talk about public domain, free licenses and fair use. That's not likely to happen given who's in control of those lesson plans. You're still just

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Planned school curriculum by MPAA

2013-09-25 Thread Andrew Lih
The California school system is the back yard (actually front yard) of both Wikimedia Foundation and Creative Commons. From the message on the web site, the WMF is a nonprofit charitable organization dedicated to encouraging the growth, development and distribution of free, multilingual,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Planned school curriculum by MPAA

2013-09-25 Thread David Gerard
On 25 September 2013 20:23, Andrew Lih andrew@gmail.com wrote: From the message on the web site, the WMF is a nonprofit charitable organization dedicated to encouraging the growth, development and distribution of free, multilingual, educational content, and to providing the full content

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Planned school curriculum by MPAA

2013-09-25 Thread Michael Snow
On 9/25/2013 11:33 AM, Andrew Lih wrote: I'd be OK if they simply gave some space in the training materials to talk about public domain, free licenses and fair use. That's not likely to happen given who's in control of those lesson plans. Because the program in question is intended for

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Planned school curriculum by MPAA

2013-09-25 Thread James Alexander
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 2:43 PM, Andrew Lih andrew@gmail.com wrote: You are right, that the lack of a national US chapter holds us back. The obvious solution is to create a new group: Committee of Wikipedian Parents Interested in Education, aka COWPIE I feel like I'm obligated to make

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Planned school curriculum by MPAA

2013-09-25 Thread Kat Walsh
On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 9:42 AM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2013/09/mpaa-school-propaganda/ [...] I suggest we see if WMF commenting, possibly in a blog post or similar, would help avert such anti-sharing foolishness I doubt it would avert it,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Planned school curriculum by MPAA

2013-09-25 Thread geni
On 25 September 2013 19:33, Andrew Lih andrew@gmail.com wrote: It has something to do with countering falsehoods and educating folks about the full range of content rights. Their 2nd grade materials state: Property comes in many forms: when we buy a book, we own that book. It’s our

[Wikimedia-l] Planned school curriculum by MPAA

2013-09-24 Thread David Gerard
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2013/09/mpaa-school-propaganda/ “This thinly disguised corporate propaganda is inaccurate and inappropriate,” says Mitch Stoltz, an intellectual property attorney with the Electronic Frontier Foundation, who reviewed the material at WIRED’s request. “It suggests,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Planned school curriculum by MPAA

2013-09-24 Thread geni
On 24 September 2013 17:42, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2013/09/mpaa-school-propaganda/ “This thinly disguised corporate propaganda is inaccurate and inappropriate,” says Mitch Stoltz, an intellectual property attorney with the Electronic Frontier