[Wikimedia-l] Task-oriented mailing lists

2014-05-20 Thread David Cuenca
Hi,

this year in a Gsoc project, following a proposal by the student, we are
using a dedicated mailing list for his project. I think it is a great
solution because:
- interested people can follow the project without bothering usual mailing
lists
- the evolution of the project is recorded and public for future reference
- offers more flexibility than plain email, because each participant can
decide how many messages to get

OTOH, by using a Googlegroup we are outside of the typical development
channels, creating an artificial island. I was wondering if Phabricator
offer a solution for this? Or is there a way to connect a mailing list to a
bug report? I'm thinking of ad-hoc mailing lists like documents in etherpad.

Micru
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Task-oriented mailing lists

2014-05-20 Thread Quim Gil
We are going to discuss Google Summer of Code and FOSS Outreach Program for
Women in 90 minutes at #wikimedia-office -- join us!

https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Engineering_Community_Team/Meetings/2014-05-20
On Tuesday, May 20, 2014, David Cuenca dacu...@gmail.com wrote:

this year in a Gsoc project, following a proposal by the student, we are
using a dedicated mailing list for his project.

I understand why you are deciding to create a mailing list, but at the same
time I'm hoping that in the very near future situations like these can be
solved with Phabricator, the tool that is planned to deprecate Bugzilla,
Gerrit and several tools more.

https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Phabricator

In fact, instead of creating a mailing list that will be surely ignored and
forgotten by the rest of the community, I encourage you to run your
short-term project with a clear deadline at http://fab.wmflabs.org/

In a Phabricator project all the discussions can be organized around tasks.
You can have a generic Planning Project X for the meta-discussion. This
will give you a space for discussion integrated with project planning and
code review.

Phabricator allows you to assign tasks to more than one project, which
means that in our production instance you will be able to mark tasks as
bugs in other MediaWiki components. Another interesting feature is the
possibility for users to subscribe to keywords. This means that having a
task related to Python might bring the attention of other Python
developers, even if they had no prior idea about the existence of your
project.

This way of working is a lot more efficient and sustainable than separate
mailing lists for projects. I encourage you to give it a try! For what is
worth, there is at least one GSoC project using Phabricator.

Chemical Markup for Wikimedia Commons
http://fab.wmflabs.org/project/view/26/

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Task-oriented mailing lists

2014-05-20 Thread Rui Correia
Hi Quim

I just posted an email titled Silly question? Which list is meant for
what?. I wonder if you would have the time to weigh in on that on the last
point (2.a)) of the email.

Best regards,

Rui


2014-05-20 16:39 GMT+02:00 Quim Gil q...@wikimedia.org:

 We are going to discuss Google Summer of Code and FOSS Outreach Program for
 Women in 90 minutes at #wikimedia-office -- join us!


 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Engineering_Community_Team/Meetings/2014-05-20
 On Tuesday, May 20, 2014, David Cuenca dacu...@gmail.com wrote:

 this year in a Gsoc project, following a proposal by the student, we are
 using a dedicated mailing list for his project.

 I understand why you are deciding to create a mailing list, but at the same
 time I'm hoping that in the very near future situations like these can be
 solved with Phabricator, the tool that is planned to deprecate Bugzilla,
 Gerrit and several tools more.

 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Phabricator

 In fact, instead of creating a mailing list that will be surely ignored and
 forgotten by the rest of the community, I encourage you to run your
 short-term project with a clear deadline at http://fab.wmflabs.org/

 In a Phabricator project all the discussions can be organized around tasks.
 You can have a generic Planning Project X for the meta-discussion. This
 will give you a space for discussion integrated with project planning and
 code review.

 Phabricator allows you to assign tasks to more than one project, which
 means that in our production instance you will be able to mark tasks as
 bugs in other MediaWiki components. Another interesting feature is the
 possibility for users to subscribe to keywords. This means that having a
 task related to Python might bring the attention of other Python
 developers, even if they had no prior idea about the existence of your
 project.

 This way of working is a lot more efficient and sustainable than separate
 mailing lists for projects. I encourage you to give it a try! For what is
 worth, there is at least one GSoC project using Phabricator.

 Chemical Markup for Wikimedia Commons
 http://fab.wmflabs.org/project/view/26/

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 Quim Gil
 Engineering Community Manager @ Wikimedia Foundation
 http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Qgil
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