The WMF will become a truly global organization when a Wikimedia US
chapter is founded ;-)
Il 08/04/2015 06:58, Pine W ha scritto:
Hi Garfield,
I'm asking this on Wikimedia-l because a number of Wikimedians have noted
the expensiveness of the San Francisco area including its high cost of
On 17/04/15 19:13, rupert THURNER wrote:
Tim, I am not too sure about this. No single piece of open source software
comes to my mind when hearing bay area or silicon Valley.
BSD, sendmail, vi, GTK+ and GIMP, Mozilla, Ceph, Docker.
Do you not have the impression beeing located in the United
On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 5:13 AM, rupert THURNER rupert.thur...@gmail.com
wrote:
Tim, I am not too sure about this. No single piece of open source software
comes to my mind when hearing bay area or silicon Valley. And no people
living there and no company located there. Except the Gnu c
On 15-04-17 05:13 AM, rupert THURNER wrote:
The only goal of a brilliant person in the this area
is to get rich with his own company. I d curious to hear how you handle
such conflict of interest.
I'm sorry - what?
I have no abundance of love towards the US society or its government as
a rule,
Hi Garfield, many thanks for your answer!
On Apr 9, 2015 5:35 PM, Garfield Byrd gb...@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hi Pine,
I have answered your questions in your email.
Regards,
Garfield
On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 12:38 AM, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Garfield,
Ok, follow up
I think with this and many other discussions, form should follow function.
So as we begin to introduce and implement our new Strategic Plan it will
inform this issue over time.
Regards,
Garfield
On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 5:46 AM, rupert THURNER rupert.thur...@gmail.com
wrote:
Hi Garfield, many
Thank you, Tim. That background information is extremely helpful to
understand the thinking behind the previous decision.
Sydney
On Apr 16, 2015 10:15 PM, Tim Starling tstarl...@wikimedia.org wrote:
On 15/04/15 22:45, Craig Franklin wrote:
I do think that it's doesn't particularly match up
I do think that it's doesn't particularly match up for the Foundation to
base itself in one of the most expensive cities in the world, citing the
local talent pool, when a lot of the tech staff are being recruited
elsewhere and are working remotely. I did feel that a lot of the
motivation to
Hi Pine,
I have answered your questions in your email.
Regards,
Garfield
On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 12:38 AM, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Garfield,
Ok, follow up questions:
* Does WMF have a plan to keep the Foundation and its essential functions
operational if, say, the San
All --
As a matter of strategy we should be leveraging our open-source roots more
as we grow. This means distributed, loosely-coupled teams. We know from
software industry history that distributed teams work best when they are
*entirely* distributed. We are working on some structures that will
On 9 April 2015 at 16:47, Garfield Byrd gb...@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hi Fae,
We have 215 staff in total, with a hub of activity in San Francisco and
other staff in several other states and 18 countries. So I agree talented
people can be found globally and WMF does hire the best talent it can
Hi Garfield,
Ok, follow up questions:
* Does WMF have a plan to keep the Foundation and its essential functions
operational if, say, the San Francisco main building all SF staff are
completely offline and unreachable by phone for a week after an earthquake?
* Would there be worthwhile
Hi Fae,
We have 215 staff in total, with a hub of activity in San Francisco and
other staff in several other states and 18 countries. So I agree talented
people can be found globally and WMF does hire the best talent it can find
wherever they are located. At this point adding offices in other
On 15-04-09 04:52 PM, Lila Tretikov wrote:
but it is also not for everyone as it can be
isolating
I think that, at the Foundation, we are blessed to have several
opportunities a year to meet with our colleagues during events, and that
things would be much more difficult as a distributed team if
On 9 April 2015 at 01:16, Garfield Byrd gb...@wikimedia.org wrote:
... The advantages of having good access to talented people and
organizations WMF interacts with far outweigh any advantages to moving to a
lower cost location outside of the San Francisco market area.
I find the world-view
The Android app is now a featured app in Google Play. This means Google has
recognised our design of the app to be amongst the best. This has led to
the app being downloaded and used more, therefore supporting our
organisation's goal to share knowledge. A massive part of why that happened
is
On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 3:45 PM, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote:
I like the ideas about setting up a variety of remote clusters as well as
remote individual employees. Google, Microsoft and Facebook have remote
clusters, and I'm sure that many other companies do this as well. Besides
Hi Pine,
If the Foundation decides to move, the cost of making the space usable for
our staff is not a recoverable cost from the building owner.
At this point, WMF is not planning on moving out of the San Francisco
market area. We will be doing our best to manage cost when we renew our
lease or
A logistical non-starter! They've got 200+ staff members, any gains to
recruitment competitiveness will be quickly lost to the drain that losing
whatever significant percent of the staff that doesn't make the move incurs
on the organization.
___
I know from experience that East St Louis is pretty cheap, and it's
centrally located. And the weather is almost as good as California, but
without the Hurricanes.
How do the WMF staff feel about moving to East St Louis? I imagine they
would be *thrilled*.
Richard Symonds
Wikimedia UK
0207 065
On 8 April 2015 at 06:07, Aleksey Bilogur aleksey.bilo...@gmail.com wrote:
A logistical non-starter! They've got 200+ staff members, any gains to...
Plenty of companies and charities happily move their HQ building
location with more staff gaining benefits rather than losing them. I
was involved
Relocating within the US or worldwide?
Relocating the whole office or just some departments?
Vince
2015-04-08 7:07 GMT+02:00 Aleksey Bilogur aleksey.bilo...@gmail.com:
A logistical non-starter! They've got 200+ staff members, any gains to
recruitment competitiveness will be quickly lost to
(volunteer hat on)
Glasgow to London in no way represents the scale of what any move,
even an in-US move, would be, unless the goal is for the WMF to end up
in LA or (maybe) Portland.
I would agree that a multi-location setup would work better as a good
expansion route here, although I'm not
On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 9:58 PM Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote:
Questions:
What happens to the remodel expenses that WMF is paying for at its current
location? If WMF vacates the premesis, will it be compensated for the
remodel by the building owner?
I hope that WMF is contemplating fully
My two cents would be that of what evil giant corporations do: move their
departments to the best place possible regarding costs/competition.
Software development in SF, customer service to India :)
For example keeping the sofware somewhere in the Bay Area would keep the
potential to attract
I see that East St Louis also has a murder rate approaching that of say,
Bogota. This to me says vibrant.
On a more serious note, while SF is egregiously expensive, if you want to
attract good people, you have to base yourself where the action is.
S
On 8 April 2015 at 16:46, Richard Symonds
Hello,
On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 10:07 PM, Aleksey Bilogur
aleksey.bilo...@gmail.com wrote:
A logistical non-starter! They've got 200+ staff members, any gains to
recruitment competitiveness will be quickly lost to the drain that losing
whatever significant percent of the staff that doesn't make
I like the ideas about setting up a variety of remote clusters as well as
remote individual employees. Google, Microsoft and Facebook have remote
clusters, and I'm sure that many other companies do this as well. Besides
decreasing expenses, improving travel logistics, and improving recruiting,
Hi Garfield,
I'm asking this on Wikimedia-l because a number of Wikimedians have noted
the expensiveness of the San Francisco area including its high cost of
living for staff, employer competition for engineering talent, and
associated high salaries for WMF employees.
I see on
Postscript (sorry): this isn't a time-sensitive question, so please respond
at your convenience. Thanks (:
Pine
On Apr 7, 2015 9:58 PM, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Garfield,
I'm asking this on Wikimedia-l because a number of Wikimedians have noted
the expensiveness of the San
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