Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wiki Travel Guide
On Wed, 11 Apr 2012 13:30:45 -0600, James Heilman wrote: @Yaroslov 1) A merger within a WMF project is supported by admins from both WT and WV. WV is going to be meeting on the possibility of merging June 9th in Germany 2) Wikimedia's mission is to provide freely available educational content I am not sure which WMF principles you do not see such a site as being compatible with? You mention that a good travel guide selects information. A good encyclopedia sections information as well. I am not sure why we would encounter any differences? We deal with spam here on Wikipedia all the time. 2a) Not catering to a specific audience is one of the criticisms of Wikipedia. The proposed travel guide would write for a general audience. Wikipedia has written for a general audience with some success. I actually do not have an opinion on whether Wikitravel should or should not be accepted as a WMF prtoject (I am currently leaning to the opinion it should). I just pointed out obvious problems. I maintain a travel guide website since 2004, and I know the issues are not so easy to resolve, especially the audience. This is why they have so many printed guidebook series IRL, and this is why I only used two or three of these series in my life (and other travelers use something else and under no circumstances would use what I use). These issues should be analyzed very carefully before the actual decision has been made. Cheers Yaroslav ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
[Wikimedia-l] Wiki Travel Guide
@ MZMcBride I just assumed that most would see travel content as educational in nature but have added this clarification to the proposal in in question. If most accept that travel is educational in nature, resources that help with travel would thus be educational resources and within the scope of the Wikimedia Foundation. @ John Vandenberg A recent copy of Wikitravel have been put aside and it is ready to be adding into a mediawiki site. -- James Heilman MD, CCFP-EM, Wikipedian ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wiki Travel Guide
2012/4/11 John Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com I agree that travel content is within the scope. In addition to the content itself, which helps other people, the process of writing and communicating travel information is educational for the writer. There was a session about WikiTravel on at RCC2011 Canberra, where the need to change host was discussed, and forking generally was discussed. https://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/University_of_Canberra/RCC2011/All_about_Wikitravel The wikiteam dumps of wikitravel are a bit old now; is someone working on making fresh dumps publicly available? https://code.google.com/p/wikiteam/downloads/list?can=2q=wikitravel https://groups.google.com/d/topic/wikiteam-discuss/0gSFlnxeKOo/discussion Hi; Furthermore, WikiTravel dumps generated by WikiTeam include only the last revision for every article. WikiTravel server is a bit weak, and full history exports fail. We would like to download a full dump if available. Regards, emijrp -- Emilio J. Rodríguez-Posada. E-mail: emijrp AT gmail DOT com Pre-doctoral student at the University of Cádiz (Spain) Projects: AVBOT http://code.google.com/p/avbot/ | StatMediaWikihttp://statmediawiki.forja.rediris.es | WikiEvidens http://code.google.com/p/wikievidens/ | WikiPapershttp://wikipapers.referata.com | WikiTeam http://code.google.com/p/wikiteam/ Personal website: https://sites.google.com/site/emijrp/ ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
