Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Spam] Re: Become a Digital object identifier (DOI) registarnt
That said, there was an attempt in 2013 to provide Memento support, which would (partially) mitigate this problem by using appropriate templates: http://mementoweb.org/wikipedia/ Of course, this would still be vulnerable to deleted images etc. And we weren't even thinking about Wikidata transclusions then :-) Andrew. On 23 January 2015 at 16:09, Petr Kadlec petr.kad...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 1:35 PM, Andrew Gray andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk wrote: The oldid. At the moment, I trust our long-term viability more than a 2014 web-archiving startup, even one with praiseworthy names attached ;-) Possibly an obvious remark: an oldid-based permalink gets you an old version of the source text of the specific page, but does not give you the original visible _result_: The page is reparsed and displayed using the _current_ version of all used templates, images, data from Wikidata etc. We do not store the complete state anywhere, so perma.cc does provide extra value here. -- [[cs:User:Mormegil | Petr Kadlec]] ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- - Andrew Gray andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Spam] Re: Become a Digital object identifier (DOI) registarnt
On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 1:35 PM, Andrew Gray andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk wrote: The oldid. At the moment, I trust our long-term viability more than a 2014 web-archiving startup, even one with praiseworthy names attached ;-) Possibly an obvious remark: an oldid-based permalink gets you an old version of the source text of the specific page, but does not give you the original visible _result_: The page is reparsed and displayed using the _current_ version of all used templates, images, data from Wikidata etc. We do not store the complete state anywhere, so perma.cc does provide extra value here. -- [[cs:User:Mormegil | Petr Kadlec]] ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Spam] Re: Become a Digital object identifier (DOI) registarnt
Andrew Gray, 21/01/2015 13:35: (Foolish question: can oldids be reconstituted from dumps?) Yes, grep any XML dump for revision to see yourself. However, the standard import doesn't preserve this information. Nemo ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
