Re: [Wikimedia-l] Blocks which appear to demonstrate prejudice against minorities

2019-01-09 Thread Amir Sarabadani
Here's my 2c: Calling gay people "subhuman" is so vile that needs direct action from outside of the wiki but IMO this is a symptom of a larger issue. The issue is that different wikis are disconnected and don't have proper oversight by a central (volunteer-based) authority. This sometimes lead to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Blocks which appear to demonstrate prejudice against minorities

2019-01-07 Thread Vi to
By the way, please do not intervene en masse. They (the user involved) have a strong tendency towards using "colonialism" as a general purpose excuse for their action, as I experienced myself a bunch of months ago, along with a series of references to Italian invasion of Ethiopia. This kind of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Blocks which appear to demonstrate prejudice against minorities

2019-01-07 Thread James Heilman
While we give individual languages / projects a great deal of autonomy, they are not completely autonomous and remain accountable to our global norms. We have a shared brand to uphold. Glad to see a strong position has been taken by the community against discrimination based on sexual orientation.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Blocks which appear to demonstrate prejudice against minorities

2019-01-07 Thread Ariel Glenn WMF
A note that the user's talk page https://am.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E1%8A%A0%E1%89%A3%E1%88%8D_%E1%8B%8D%E1%8B%AD%E1%8B%AD%E1%89%B5:Codex_Sinaiticus may or may not reflect all of the comments made at any given moment, since the user has been engaged in deleting large parts of the discussion. You'll

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Blocks which appear to demonstrate prejudice against minorities

2019-01-07 Thread
Thanks TS for making an initial statement. Hopefully this case sets a useful precedent to ensure everyone is a bit clearer on processes to follow and what is the best advice to offer complainants who suffer discriminatory sysop actions on Wikimedia projects. Certainly it has reinforced my view

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Blocks which appear to demonstrate prejudice against minorities

2019-01-07 Thread Kalliope Tsouroupidou
Hello from the Trust and Safety Team at the Wikimedia Foundation, First of all, we want to thank the community members alerting us of the situation through several private notes on the matter that have reached us over the past few days. Special thanks also go out to Pine and Risker for their

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Blocks which appear to demonstrate prejudice against minorities

2019-01-07 Thread Vi to
The lobby of high voltage warning signs disagrees. Vito Il giorno lun 7 gen 2019 alle ore 11:37 Yaroslav Blanter ha scritto: > Well, in 2019 people should already have come to the notion that blocking > locally an acting steward is not really a good idea. > > Cheers > Yaroslav > > On Mon, Jan

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Blocks which appear to demonstrate prejudice against minorities

2019-01-07 Thread Yaroslav Blanter
Well, in 2019 people should already have come to the notion that blocking locally an acting steward is not really a good idea. Cheers Yaroslav On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 11:21 AM Vi to wrote: > Because of a truly great idea > < >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Blocks which appear to demonstrate prejudice against minorities

2019-01-07 Thread Vi to
Because of a truly great idea the involved user's admin/bureaucrat access was revoked by Marco

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Blocks which appear to demonstrate prejudice against minorities

2019-01-07 Thread Amir Sarabadani
Given the response on the talk page [1] I think it's clear violation of nondiscrimination policy [2] [1] "promotion of homosexuality will not be tolerated here nor will it be forced down our throats to suit anyone's international political agenda if you expect Ethiopians to take part." [2]

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Blocks which appear to demonstrate prejudice against minorities

2019-01-02 Thread Risker
I note that we are talking about the block of one single user on one single project; this particular account has thousands of edits over about a dozen projects, but is "attached" to hundreds of Wikimedia projects. The majority of these "attached" accounts are likely because the editor "visited"

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Blocks which appear to demonstrate prejudice against minorities

2019-01-02 Thread Pine W
Sorry, I meant to say Amharic, not Armenian. Pine ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine ) On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 9:45 PM Pine W wrote: > Hi, > > My opinion is that the block should be lifted. However, to the best of my > knowledge, an appeal of a local block to the larger Wikiverse has

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Blocks which appear to demonstrate prejudice against minorities

2019-01-02 Thread Pine W
Hi, My opinion is that the block should be lifted. However, to the best of my knowledge, an appeal of a local block to the larger Wikiverse has never been successful. I am guessing that there are at least four factors here: 1. a lack of consensus for a process for appealing a local block to the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Blocks which appear to demonstrate prejudice against minorities

2019-01-02 Thread Ariel Glenn WMF
Additional notes: The user's regular page can be viewed on en wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:QueerEcofeminist Queer may have to do with gender identity as opposed to being an indicator of 'sexual behavior', so the blockers didn't even get that right. Example: I am