Re: [Wikimedia-l] Breivik: My Biggest Influence Was Wikipedia

2012-04-18 Thread Marc Riddell

 on 4/18/12 4:53 AM, Mike  Dupont at jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote:
 
 this just in, scary.
 
 Breivik: My Biggest Influence Was Wikipedia
 
 
http://www.businessinsider.com/norwegian-terrorist-anders-breivik-my-biggest
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 nfluence-was-wikipedia-2012-4#ixzz1sN3LZci6

On 18 April 2012 13:55, Marc Riddell michaeldavi...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 Unless he expanded on his statement, which isn't in the posted clip, his
 answer could very well be a sarcastic non-answer to an entity he believes
 has neither credibility nor authority over him.
 
 Marc Riddell
 
 
 It's my understanding that what he said is that Wikipedia was venue he used
 for researching his ideology.
 
 At the end of the day Wikipedia is full of right wing material - because it
 is a part of history/culture and we have to record it (neutrally). It is
 entirely possible to take that material and use it to build a world view.
 
 This is what people do anyway.
 
 We simply have to be accepting of the fact that, while our intent might be
 to spread a more inclusive society by opening up knowledge to the masses,
 there is a portion of the population who will form views we find abhorrent.
 
I agree with you, Thomas, that some persons are going to use - or twist -
facts to support their own, already-established views.

I also agree with Mike that the growing size and complexity of the
Encyclopedia needs stronger and more objective oversight.

Marc


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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Breivik: My Biggest Influence Was Wikipedia

2012-04-18 Thread Fae
I find this context upsetting regardless of the points being raised.

My personal request for any reader of this email thread, is that if
there are any changes you would like to see on Wikipedia or other
Wikimedia projects, please don't use anything that this monster says
as a reason for action. It would be a terrible starting point and
taint any discussion.

Nothing he has to say has any chance of being notable or rational
enough for us to concern ourselves about. I look forward to him being
permanently locked away from society and we can turn our backs and
move on.

Thanks,
Fae
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Breivik: My Biggest Influence Was Wikipedia

2012-04-18 Thread Mike Dupont
Yes, I also found it upsetting, but I decided to bring this topic up as
someone had sent it to me,
and thought that it is better that we know about what is going on before it
hits us and we dont know about it.

On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 3:40 PM, Fae fae...@gmail.com wrote:

 I find this context upsetting regardless of the points being raised.




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