Re: [Wikimedia-l] Free Bassel

2015-12-11 Thread Katherine Maher
Hi all,

We thought you would want to see this story about Bassel, published in the
UK's Guardian today. It quotes Jimmy, among others, and we spoke with the
journalist ahead of publication.

http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/dec/11/bassel-khartabil-fears-for-man-who-brought-open-internet-to-the-arab-world

Bassel was also mentioned yesterday by US Secretary of State John Kerry, in
his remarks on the occasion of International Human Rights Day.

http://www.state.gov/secretary/remarks/2015/12/250541.htm

We're continuing to work with people from FreeBassel on how we can support
their ongoing advocacy, and appreciate your continued support.

Katherine

On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 12:49 PM, Gregory Varnum 
wrote:

> Greetings,
>
> Quick update for those interested.
>
> The poll closed this weekend - as scheduled (it was a faster timeline
> given the urgency of the case/request). Right now, we await assessment and
> closure of the straw poll by a Steward (request has been made on their
> Noticeboard).
>
> At the time of closing, the banner campaign had 158 in favor (62.45%) and
> 95 against (37.55%).
>
> Again, thank you to everyone that participated.
>
> As we await closure and possible next steps, reminder that there is info
> on what actions you can take at:
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Free_Bassel
>
> -greg (User:Varnent)
>
> > On Nov 28, 2015, at 3:14 AM, Gregory Varnum 
> wrote:
> >
> > Reminder that the current discussion on the banner will be continuing on
> Meta-Wiki for another 12 hours:
> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Free_Bassel/Banner/Straw_poll <
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Free_Bassel/Banner/Straw_poll>
> >
> > As of this email, 142 people have shown support for the banner campaign
> and 84 have opposed the banner campaign.
> >
> > Thank you to everyone that is participating in the poll and discussion.
> >
> > -greg (User:Varnent)
> >
> >> On Nov 26, 2015, at 12:55 AM, Gerard Meijssen <
> gerard.meijs...@gmail.com > wrote:
> >>
> >> Hoi,
> >> As this is not a Wikipedia article, it is more of an advertisement, a
> call
> >> to action. Urgency is key. This is not about the well known patterns of
> a
> >> Wikipedia article.
> >>
> >> This is not understood, it results at this late stage in an edit war.
> >> Either we have a point and make it or we have a Wikipedia style article
> >> which is to long to read. It will not be read because there is nothing
> >> urgent, nothing that demands attention.
> >> Thanks,
> >> GerardM
> >>
> >> On 25 November 2015 at 11:20, Gerard Meijssen <
> gerard.meijs...@gmail.com >
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hoi,
> >>> I have looked at the article. It does not have the necessary urgency.
> He
> >>> is likely to have been sentenced to death and the article reads like a
> >>> Wikipedia article. This is Meta, it is not Wikipedia and it needs
> urgency.
> >>> We appeal to the world to get involved to let his death not happen.
> That is
> >>> imho what the message needs to be.
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> GerardM
> >>>
> >>> On 25 November 2015 at 02:57, Asaf Bartov  > wrote:
> >>>
>  FYI: User:Odder has now created [[m:Free Bassel
>   https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Free_Bassel>>]], as a landing page to
>  link
>  from the banner.
> 
>  If anyone would like to help with a design for the banner (I concede
> not
>  everyone shares my taste for 10pt-black-on-white text), we would be
> able
>  to
>  move ahead.  There is, so far, nothing but support.
> 
>    A.
> 
>  On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 10:57 AM, Katherine Maher <
> kma...@wikimedia.org >
>  wrote:
> 
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > Thank you for raising this issue here on this list. I wanted to share
>  some
> > more information about how we’ve been working to support Bassel to
> this
> > point, in public and behind the scenes. Unfortunately, some efforts
> are
> > sensitive, so can’t be shared in full on public mailing lists. But
> we’re
> > committed to supporting next steps or decisions by the community, and
> > keeping you updated going forward.
> >
> > Working with some other colleagues at the Foundation, we have been
>  tracking
> > Bassel's case for some time now, in direct contact with the
> organizers
>  of
> > the #FreeBassel campaign  http://freebassel.org/>> [1], and Bassel's
>  family.
> > The actions we have taken to date have been in coordination and
> approval
> > with the #FreeBassel campaign, including:
> >
> >   - Coordination and communication with related organizations, such
> as
>  the
> >   Electronic Frontier Foundation and Amnesty International. (ongoing)
> >   - Regular 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Free Bassel

2015-12-11 Thread Sam Klein
The Guardian piece was really good, thank you.  As was the personal history
Joi published:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/joichi-ito/mit-researcher-sentenced-_b_8760354.html

Kerry's mention is promising; let's keep pushing for visibility at this
level.

Sam

On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 3:43 PM, Katherine Maher 
wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> We thought you would want to see this story about Bassel, published in the
> UK's Guardian today. It quotes Jimmy, among others, and we spoke with the
> journalist ahead of publication.
>
>
> http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/dec/11/bassel-khartabil-fears-for-man-who-brought-open-internet-to-the-arab-world
>
> Bassel was also mentioned yesterday by US Secretary of State John Kerry, in
> his remarks on the occasion of International Human Rights Day.
>
> http://www.state.gov/secretary/remarks/2015/12/250541.htm
>
> We're continuing to work with people from FreeBassel on how we can support
> their ongoing advocacy, and appreciate your continued support.
>
> Katherine
>
> On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 12:49 PM, Gregory Varnum  >
> wrote:
>
> > Greetings,
> >
> > Quick update for those interested.
> >
> > The poll closed this weekend - as scheduled (it was a faster timeline
> > given the urgency of the case/request). Right now, we await assessment
> and
> > closure of the straw poll by a Steward (request has been made on their
> > Noticeboard).
> >
> > At the time of closing, the banner campaign had 158 in favor (62.45%) and
> > 95 against (37.55%).
> >
> > Again, thank you to everyone that participated.
> >
> > As we await closure and possible next steps, reminder that there is info
> > on what actions you can take at:
> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Free_Bassel
> >
> > -greg (User:Varnent)
> >
> > > On Nov 28, 2015, at 3:14 AM, Gregory Varnum 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Reminder that the current discussion on the banner will be continuing
> on
> > Meta-Wiki for another 12 hours:
> > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Free_Bassel/Banner/Straw_poll <
> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Free_Bassel/Banner/Straw_poll>
> > >
> > > As of this email, 142 people have shown support for the banner campaign
> > and 84 have opposed the banner campaign.
> > >
> > > Thank you to everyone that is participating in the poll and discussion.
> > >
> > > -greg (User:Varnent)
> > >
> > >> On Nov 26, 2015, at 12:55 AM, Gerard Meijssen <
> > gerard.meijs...@gmail.com > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Hoi,
> > >> As this is not a Wikipedia article, it is more of an advertisement, a
> > call
> > >> to action. Urgency is key. This is not about the well known patterns
> of
> > a
> > >> Wikipedia article.
> > >>
> > >> This is not understood, it results at this late stage in an edit war.
> > >> Either we have a point and make it or we have a Wikipedia style
> article
> > >> which is to long to read. It will not be read because there is nothing
> > >> urgent, nothing that demands attention.
> > >> Thanks,
> > >> GerardM
> > >>
> > >> On 25 November 2015 at 11:20, Gerard Meijssen <
> > gerard.meijs...@gmail.com >
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Hoi,
> > >>> I have looked at the article. It does not have the necessary urgency.
> > He
> > >>> is likely to have been sentenced to death and the article reads like
> a
> > >>> Wikipedia article. This is Meta, it is not Wikipedia and it needs
> > urgency.
> > >>> We appeal to the world to get involved to let his death not happen.
> > That is
> > >>> imho what the message needs to be.
> > >>> Thanks,
> > >>> GerardM
> > >>>
> > >>> On 25 November 2015 at 02:57, Asaf Bartov  > > wrote:
> > >>>
> >  FYI: User:Odder has now created [[m:Free Bassel
> >   > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Free_Bassel>>]], as a landing page to
> >  link
> >  from the banner.
> > 
> >  If anyone would like to help with a design for the banner (I concede
> > not
> >  everyone shares my taste for 10pt-black-on-white text), we would be
> > able
> >  to
> >  move ahead.  There is, so far, nothing but support.
> > 
> >    A.
> > 
> >  On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 10:57 AM, Katherine Maher <
> > kma...@wikimedia.org >
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > > Hi everyone,
> > >
> > > Thank you for raising this issue here on this list. I wanted to
> share
> >  some
> > > more information about how we’ve been working to support Bassel to
> > this
> > > point, in public and behind the scenes. Unfortunately, some efforts
> > are
> > > sensitive, so can’t be shared in full on public mailing lists. But
> > we’re
> > > committed to supporting next steps or decisions by the community,
> and
> > > keeping you updated going forward.
> > >
> > > Working with some other 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Free Bassel

2015-12-11 Thread Sam Klein
On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 3:51 PM, Gerard Meijssen 
wrote:

> Hoi,
>
> If you are serious as a Wikipedian and, when you think that a Syrian can be
> a Wikipedian, you may appreciate the need to know at least about some
> Syrians and a little more about Syria...
>
>
> http://ultimategerardm.blogspot.nl/2015/12/missingbassel-what-to-do-for-him-and.html


Yes. Translation of recent tweets, if not entire articles, also helps
broaden the discussion.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Free Bassel

2015-11-30 Thread Gregory Varnum
Greetings,

Quick update for those interested.

The poll closed this weekend - as scheduled (it was a faster timeline given the 
urgency of the case/request). Right now, we await assessment and closure of the 
straw poll by a Steward (request has been made on their Noticeboard).

At the time of closing, the banner campaign had 158 in favor (62.45%) and 95 
against (37.55%).

Again, thank you to everyone that participated.

As we await closure and possible next steps, reminder that there is info on 
what actions you can take at: 
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Free_Bassel

-greg (User:Varnent)

> On Nov 28, 2015, at 3:14 AM, Gregory Varnum  wrote:
> 
> Reminder that the current discussion on the banner will be continuing on 
> Meta-Wiki for another 12 hours:
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Free_Bassel/Banner/Straw_poll 
> 
> 
> As of this email, 142 people have shown support for the banner campaign and 
> 84 have opposed the banner campaign.
> 
> Thank you to everyone that is participating in the poll and discussion.
> 
> -greg (User:Varnent)
> 
>> On Nov 26, 2015, at 12:55 AM, Gerard Meijssen > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hoi,
>> As this is not a Wikipedia article, it is more of an advertisement, a call
>> to action. Urgency is key. This is not about the well known patterns of a
>> Wikipedia article.
>> 
>> This is not understood, it results at this late stage in an edit war.
>> Either we have a point and make it or we have a Wikipedia style article
>> which is to long to read. It will not be read because there is nothing
>> urgent, nothing that demands attention.
>> Thanks,
>> GerardM
>> 
>> On 25 November 2015 at 11:20, Gerard Meijssen > >
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hoi,
>>> I have looked at the article. It does not have the necessary urgency. He
>>> is likely to have been sentenced to death and the article reads like a
>>> Wikipedia article. This is Meta, it is not Wikipedia and it needs urgency.
>>> We appeal to the world to get involved to let his death not happen. That is
>>> imho what the message needs to be.
>>> Thanks,
>>> GerardM
>>> 
>>> On 25 November 2015 at 02:57, Asaf Bartov >> > wrote:
>>> 
 FYI: User:Odder has now created [[m:Free Bassel
 >]], as a landing page to
 link
 from the banner.
 
 If anyone would like to help with a design for the banner (I concede not
 everyone shares my taste for 10pt-black-on-white text), we would be able
 to
 move ahead.  There is, so far, nothing but support.
 
   A.
 
 On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 10:57 AM, Katherine Maher >
 wrote:
 
> Hi everyone,
> 
> Thank you for raising this issue here on this list. I wanted to share
 some
> more information about how we’ve been working to support Bassel to this
> point, in public and behind the scenes. Unfortunately, some efforts are
> sensitive, so can’t be shared in full on public mailing lists. But we’re
> committed to supporting next steps or decisions by the community, and
> keeping you updated going forward.
> 
> Working with some other colleagues at the Foundation, we have been
 tracking
> Bassel's case for some time now, in direct contact with the organizers
 of
> the #FreeBassel campaign > 
> [1], and Bassel's
 family.
> The actions we have taken to date have been in coordination and approval
> with the #FreeBassel campaign, including:
> 
>   - Coordination and communication with related organizations, such as
 the
>   Electronic Frontier Foundation and Amnesty International. (ongoing)
>   - Regular contact and updates with senior human rights officials at
 the
>   U.S. State Department. (ongoing)
>   - Outreach to the press around Bassel’s arbitrary detention and
>   contributions to the free knowledge movement. Please see this WIRED
> story, “A
>   Jailed Activist’s 3-D Models Could Save Syria’s History From ISIS
>   <
> 
 http://www.wired.com/2015/10/jailed-activist-bassel-khartabil-3d-models-could-save-syrian-history-from-isis/
  
 
>> .”
>   [2] (Although we did reach out to WIRED, we cannot say for certain if
> that
>   story was the direct result of our efforts or others within the
> #FreeBassel
>   coordination community). (10/21)
>   - Raising Bassel’s case in public speaking opportunities, including
>   Lila’s 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Free Bassel

2015-11-28 Thread Gregory Varnum
Reminder that the current discussion on the banner will be continuing on 
Meta-Wiki for another 12 hours:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Free_Bassel/Banner/Straw_poll

As of this email, 142 people have shown support for the banner campaign and 84 
have opposed the banner campaign.

Thank you to everyone that is participating in the poll and discussion.

-greg (User:Varnent)

> On Nov 26, 2015, at 12:55 AM, Gerard Meijssen  
> wrote:
> 
> Hoi,
> As this is not a Wikipedia article, it is more of an advertisement, a call
> to action. Urgency is key. This is not about the well known patterns of a
> Wikipedia article.
> 
> This is not understood, it results at this late stage in an edit war.
> Either we have a point and make it or we have a Wikipedia style article
> which is to long to read. It will not be read because there is nothing
> urgent, nothing that demands attention.
> Thanks,
> GerardM
> 
> On 25 November 2015 at 11:20, Gerard Meijssen  >
> wrote:
> 
>> Hoi,
>> I have looked at the article. It does not have the necessary urgency. He
>> is likely to have been sentenced to death and the article reads like a
>> Wikipedia article. This is Meta, it is not Wikipedia and it needs urgency.
>> We appeal to the world to get involved to let his death not happen. That is
>> imho what the message needs to be.
>> Thanks,
>> GerardM
>> 
>> On 25 November 2015 at 02:57, Asaf Bartov  wrote:
>> 
>>> FYI: User:Odder has now created [[m:Free Bassel
>>> ]], as a landing page to
>>> link
>>> from the banner.
>>> 
>>> If anyone would like to help with a design for the banner (I concede not
>>> everyone shares my taste for 10pt-black-on-white text), we would be able
>>> to
>>> move ahead.  There is, so far, nothing but support.
>>> 
>>>   A.
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 10:57 AM, Katherine Maher 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 Hi everyone,
 
 Thank you for raising this issue here on this list. I wanted to share
>>> some
 more information about how we’ve been working to support Bassel to this
 point, in public and behind the scenes. Unfortunately, some efforts are
 sensitive, so can’t be shared in full on public mailing lists. But we’re
 committed to supporting next steps or decisions by the community, and
 keeping you updated going forward.
 
 Working with some other colleagues at the Foundation, we have been
>>> tracking
 Bassel's case for some time now, in direct contact with the organizers
>>> of
 the #FreeBassel campaign  [1], and Bassel's
>>> family.
 The actions we have taken to date have been in coordination and approval
 with the #FreeBassel campaign, including:
 
   - Coordination and communication with related organizations, such as
>>> the
   Electronic Frontier Foundation and Amnesty International. (ongoing)
   - Regular contact and updates with senior human rights officials at
>>> the
   U.S. State Department. (ongoing)
   - Outreach to the press around Bassel’s arbitrary detention and
   contributions to the free knowledge movement. Please see this WIRED
 story, “A
   Jailed Activist’s 3-D Models Could Save Syria’s History From ISIS
   <
 
>>> http://www.wired.com/2015/10/jailed-activist-bassel-khartabil-3d-models-could-save-syrian-history-from-isis/
> .”
   [2] (Although we did reach out to WIRED, we cannot say for certain if
 that
   story was the direct result of our efforts or others within the
 #FreeBassel
   coordination community). (10/21)
   - Raising Bassel’s case in public speaking opportunities, including
   Lila’s keynote to the Creative Commons Summit. (10/15)
   - Blog post #FREEBASSEL: Free culture advocate who built 3D
>>> renderings
   of Palmyra missing in Syria
    [3].
   (10/08)
   - Ongoing participation in #FreeBassel social media campaigns on
   Facebook and Twitter.
 
 Bassel is in a situation known as arbitrary detention
 <
 
>>> http://en.alkarama.org/1763-syria-un-calls-for-the-release-of-freedom-of-speech-advocate-bassel-khartabil
> 
 [4]. Arbitrary detentions are characterized by uncertainty, lack of
 information, and volatility. They’re scary because we don’t know what’s
 happening, and often we are making decisions without a lot of
>>> information.
 Our goal is always to support Bassel to make sure our efforts help him
 without putting him at greater risk. So we’ve been working with
>>> experienced
 human rights campaigners, including the #FreeBassel campaign, to
>>> understand
 the best actions to take at different times over the past two months.
 
 We’ve been in touch with Bassel’s family, who would support 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Free Bassel

2015-11-25 Thread phoebe ayers
Has there been a discussion of timing for this? SJ (who is offline right
now) just mentioned that the Free Bassel group may be planning a focused
outreach push tomorrow through Friday. Let's coordinate with them if
possible.
On Nov 25, 2015 11:21 AM, "Gerard Meijssen" 
wrote:

> Hoi,
> I have looked at the article. It does not have the necessary urgency. He is
> likely to have been sentenced to death and the article reads like a
> Wikipedia article. This is Meta, it is not Wikipedia and it needs urgency.
> We appeal to the world to get involved to let his death not happen. That is
> imho what the message needs to be.
> Thanks,
>  GerardM
>
> On 25 November 2015 at 02:57, Asaf Bartov  wrote:
>
> > FYI: User:Odder has now created [[m:Free Bassel
> > ]], as a landing page to
> link
> > from the banner.
> >
> > If anyone would like to help with a design for the banner (I concede not
> > everyone shares my taste for 10pt-black-on-white text), we would be able
> to
> > move ahead.  There is, so far, nothing but support.
> >
> >A.
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 10:57 AM, Katherine Maher 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi everyone,
> > >
> > > Thank you for raising this issue here on this list. I wanted to share
> > some
> > > more information about how we’ve been working to support Bassel to this
> > > point, in public and behind the scenes. Unfortunately, some efforts are
> > > sensitive, so can’t be shared in full on public mailing lists. But
> we’re
> > > committed to supporting next steps or decisions by the community, and
> > > keeping you updated going forward.
> > >
> > > Working with some other colleagues at the Foundation, we have been
> > tracking
> > > Bassel's case for some time now, in direct contact with the organizers
> of
> > > the #FreeBassel campaign  [1], and Bassel's
> > family.
> > > The actions we have taken to date have been in coordination and
> approval
> > > with the #FreeBassel campaign, including:
> > >
> > >- Coordination and communication with related organizations, such as
> > the
> > >Electronic Frontier Foundation and Amnesty International. (ongoing)
> > >- Regular contact and updates with senior human rights officials at
> > the
> > >U.S. State Department. (ongoing)
> > >- Outreach to the press around Bassel’s arbitrary detention and
> > >contributions to the free knowledge movement. Please see this WIRED
> > > story, “A
> > >Jailed Activist’s 3-D Models Could Save Syria’s History From ISIS
> > ><
> > >
> >
> http://www.wired.com/2015/10/jailed-activist-bassel-khartabil-3d-models-could-save-syrian-history-from-isis/
> > > >.”
> > >[2] (Although we did reach out to WIRED, we cannot say for certain
> if
> > > that
> > >story was the direct result of our efforts or others within the
> > > #FreeBassel
> > >coordination community). (10/21)
> > >- Raising Bassel’s case in public speaking opportunities, including
> > >Lila’s keynote to the Creative Commons Summit. (10/15)
> > >- Blog post #FREEBASSEL: Free culture advocate who built 3D
> renderings
> > >of Palmyra missing in Syria
> > > [3].
> > >(10/08)
> > >- Ongoing participation in #FreeBassel social media campaigns on
> > >Facebook and Twitter.
> > >
> > > Bassel is in a situation known as arbitrary detention
> > > <
> > >
> >
> http://en.alkarama.org/1763-syria-un-calls-for-the-release-of-freedom-of-speech-advocate-bassel-khartabil
> > > >
> > > [4]. Arbitrary detentions are characterized by uncertainty, lack of
> > > information, and volatility. They’re scary because we don’t know what’s
> > > happening, and often we are making decisions without a lot of
> > information.
> > > Our goal is always to support Bassel to make sure our efforts help him
> > > without putting him at greater risk. So we’ve been working with
> > experienced
> > > human rights campaigners, including the #FreeBassel campaign, to
> > understand
> > > the best actions to take at different times over the past two months.
> > >
> > > We’ve been in touch with Bassel’s family, who would support continued
> > > efforts to raise awareness about Bassel’s situation through a note on
> > > Wikipedia if that should happen. We can also join action letters (like
> > this
> > > <
> > >
> >
> http://www.amnesty.nl/nieuwsportaal/pers/syria-fears-life-free-expression-advocate
> > > >
> > > [5]) where the community agrees it's appropriate. If the community
> > decides
> > > to move forward with an action, we are here to help. We are monitoring
> > the
> > > discussions and activity in
> > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Banner:Free_Bassel as a place where
> > > community consensus can form. Please let us know if there’s anything
> else
> > > we can do to support efforts to raise awareness for Bassel.
> 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Free Bassel

2015-11-25 Thread Sam Klein
Back at my computer:  I checked w/ Jon Phillips and folks at newpalmyra and
freebassel.org & pointed them to the Meta talk page.   It sounded from a
quick chat as though they had something planned this week, but the real
question is how could a campaign like this be best directed if it was
carried out.  I asked them to share their thoughts on what timing would be
most effective.

Gerard and I also met today a representative from Amnesty Nederland
(Amnesty was one of the previous recipients of the Erasmus Prize). They
confirmed that they've had good results by inviting people to flood the
phone lines of Embassies, and noted that for Syria many countries may not
have a dedicated embassy; but supporters can still call or write an embassy
in a neighboring country.

SJ

On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 8:58 PM, phoebe ayers  wrote:

> Has there been a discussion of timing for this? SJ (who is offline right
> now) just mentioned that the Free Bassel group may be planning a focused
> outreach push tomorrow through Friday. Let's coordinate with them if
> possible.
> On Nov 25, 2015 11:21 AM, "Gerard Meijssen" 
> wrote:
>
> > Hoi,
> > I have looked at the article. It does not have the necessary urgency. He
> is
> > likely to have been sentenced to death and the article reads like a
> > Wikipedia article. This is Meta, it is not Wikipedia and it needs
> urgency.
> > We appeal to the world to get involved to let his death not happen. That
> is
> > imho what the message needs to be.
> > Thanks,
> >  GerardM
> >
> > On 25 November 2015 at 02:57, Asaf Bartov  wrote:
> >
> > > FYI: User:Odder has now created [[m:Free Bassel
> > > ]], as a landing page to
> > link
> > > from the banner.
> > >
> > > If anyone would like to help with a design for the banner (I concede
> not
> > > everyone shares my taste for 10pt-black-on-white text), we would be
> able
> > to
> > > move ahead.  There is, so far, nothing but support.
> > >
> > >A.
> > >
> > > On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 10:57 AM, Katherine Maher <
> kma...@wikimedia.org>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi everyone,
> > > >
> > > > Thank you for raising this issue here on this list. I wanted to share
> > > some
> > > > more information about how we’ve been working to support Bassel to
> this
> > > > point, in public and behind the scenes. Unfortunately, some efforts
> are
> > > > sensitive, so can’t be shared in full on public mailing lists. But
> > we’re
> > > > committed to supporting next steps or decisions by the community, and
> > > > keeping you updated going forward.
> > > >
> > > > Working with some other colleagues at the Foundation, we have been
> > > tracking
> > > > Bassel's case for some time now, in direct contact with the
> organizers
> > of
> > > > the #FreeBassel campaign  [1], and Bassel's
> > > family.
> > > > The actions we have taken to date have been in coordination and
> > approval
> > > > with the #FreeBassel campaign, including:
> > > >
> > > >- Coordination and communication with related organizations, such
> as
> > > the
> > > >Electronic Frontier Foundation and Amnesty International.
> (ongoing)
> > > >- Regular contact and updates with senior human rights officials
> at
> > > the
> > > >U.S. State Department. (ongoing)
> > > >- Outreach to the press around Bassel’s arbitrary detention and
> > > >contributions to the free knowledge movement. Please see this
> WIRED
> > > > story, “A
> > > >Jailed Activist’s 3-D Models Could Save Syria’s History From ISIS
> > > ><
> > > >
> > >
> >
> http://www.wired.com/2015/10/jailed-activist-bassel-khartabil-3d-models-could-save-syrian-history-from-isis/
> > > > >.”
> > > >[2] (Although we did reach out to WIRED, we cannot say for certain
> > if
> > > > that
> > > >story was the direct result of our efforts or others within the
> > > > #FreeBassel
> > > >coordination community). (10/21)
> > > >- Raising Bassel’s case in public speaking opportunities,
> including
> > > >Lila’s keynote to the Creative Commons Summit. (10/15)
> > > >- Blog post #FREEBASSEL: Free culture advocate who built 3D
> > renderings
> > > >of Palmyra missing in Syria
> > > >
> [3].
> > > >(10/08)
> > > >- Ongoing participation in #FreeBassel social media campaigns on
> > > >Facebook and Twitter.
> > > >
> > > > Bassel is in a situation known as arbitrary detention
> > > > <
> > > >
> > >
> >
> http://en.alkarama.org/1763-syria-un-calls-for-the-release-of-freedom-of-speech-advocate-bassel-khartabil
> > > > >
> > > > [4]. Arbitrary detentions are characterized by uncertainty, lack of
> > > > information, and volatility. They’re scary because we don’t know
> what’s
> > > > happening, and often we are making decisions without a lot of
> > > information.
> > > > Our goal is always 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Free Bassel

2015-11-25 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi,
As this is not a Wikipedia article, it is more of an advertisement, a call
to action. Urgency is key. This is not about the well known patterns of a
Wikipedia article.

This is not understood, it results at this late stage in an edit war.
Either we have a point and make it or we have a Wikipedia style article
which is to long to read. It will not be read because there is nothing
urgent, nothing that demands attention.
Thanks,
 GerardM

On 25 November 2015 at 11:20, Gerard Meijssen 
wrote:

> Hoi,
> I have looked at the article. It does not have the necessary urgency. He
> is likely to have been sentenced to death and the article reads like a
> Wikipedia article. This is Meta, it is not Wikipedia and it needs urgency.
> We appeal to the world to get involved to let his death not happen. That is
> imho what the message needs to be.
> Thanks,
>  GerardM
>
> On 25 November 2015 at 02:57, Asaf Bartov  wrote:
>
>> FYI: User:Odder has now created [[m:Free Bassel
>> ]], as a landing page to
>> link
>> from the banner.
>>
>> If anyone would like to help with a design for the banner (I concede not
>> everyone shares my taste for 10pt-black-on-white text), we would be able
>> to
>> move ahead.  There is, so far, nothing but support.
>>
>>A.
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 10:57 AM, Katherine Maher 
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Hi everyone,
>> >
>> > Thank you for raising this issue here on this list. I wanted to share
>> some
>> > more information about how we’ve been working to support Bassel to this
>> > point, in public and behind the scenes. Unfortunately, some efforts are
>> > sensitive, so can’t be shared in full on public mailing lists. But we’re
>> > committed to supporting next steps or decisions by the community, and
>> > keeping you updated going forward.
>> >
>> > Working with some other colleagues at the Foundation, we have been
>> tracking
>> > Bassel's case for some time now, in direct contact with the organizers
>> of
>> > the #FreeBassel campaign  [1], and Bassel's
>> family.
>> > The actions we have taken to date have been in coordination and approval
>> > with the #FreeBassel campaign, including:
>> >
>> >- Coordination and communication with related organizations, such as
>> the
>> >Electronic Frontier Foundation and Amnesty International. (ongoing)
>> >- Regular contact and updates with senior human rights officials at
>> the
>> >U.S. State Department. (ongoing)
>> >- Outreach to the press around Bassel’s arbitrary detention and
>> >contributions to the free knowledge movement. Please see this WIRED
>> > story, “A
>> >Jailed Activist’s 3-D Models Could Save Syria’s History From ISIS
>> ><
>> >
>> http://www.wired.com/2015/10/jailed-activist-bassel-khartabil-3d-models-could-save-syrian-history-from-isis/
>> > >.”
>> >[2] (Although we did reach out to WIRED, we cannot say for certain if
>> > that
>> >story was the direct result of our efforts or others within the
>> > #FreeBassel
>> >coordination community). (10/21)
>> >- Raising Bassel’s case in public speaking opportunities, including
>> >Lila’s keynote to the Creative Commons Summit. (10/15)
>> >- Blog post #FREEBASSEL: Free culture advocate who built 3D
>> renderings
>> >of Palmyra missing in Syria
>> > [3].
>> >(10/08)
>> >- Ongoing participation in #FreeBassel social media campaigns on
>> >Facebook and Twitter.
>> >
>> > Bassel is in a situation known as arbitrary detention
>> > <
>> >
>> http://en.alkarama.org/1763-syria-un-calls-for-the-release-of-freedom-of-speech-advocate-bassel-khartabil
>> > >
>> > [4]. Arbitrary detentions are characterized by uncertainty, lack of
>> > information, and volatility. They’re scary because we don’t know what’s
>> > happening, and often we are making decisions without a lot of
>> information.
>> > Our goal is always to support Bassel to make sure our efforts help him
>> > without putting him at greater risk. So we’ve been working with
>> experienced
>> > human rights campaigners, including the #FreeBassel campaign, to
>> understand
>> > the best actions to take at different times over the past two months.
>> >
>> > We’ve been in touch with Bassel’s family, who would support continued
>> > efforts to raise awareness about Bassel’s situation through a note on
>> > Wikipedia if that should happen. We can also join action letters (like
>> this
>> > <
>> >
>> http://www.amnesty.nl/nieuwsportaal/pers/syria-fears-life-free-expression-advocate
>> > >
>> > [5]) where the community agrees it's appropriate. If the community
>> decides
>> > to move forward with an action, we are here to help. We are monitoring
>> the
>> > discussions and activity in
>> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Banner:Free_Bassel as a place where
>> > community 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Free Bassel

2015-11-25 Thread Andrea Zanni
Thanks Katherine for this mail,
it gives a lot of context and details, and also thanks for the difficult
work the WMF is doing.

Is the opinion of more experienced NGOs and activists that a dedicated
banner/ribbon/logo would be a good idea?
We all think that is an enormous power that we have as a community, so we
should use it carefully.
But is the most powerful weapon we have (well, second only to a Wikipedia
strike).

Again, thanks for your efforts.

Aubrey

On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 7:57 PM, Katherine Maher 
wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> Thank you for raising this issue here on this list. I wanted to share some
> more information about how we’ve been working to support Bassel to this
> point, in public and behind the scenes. Unfortunately, some efforts are
> sensitive, so can’t be shared in full on public mailing lists. But we’re
> committed to supporting next steps or decisions by the community, and
> keeping you updated going forward.
>
> Working with some other colleagues at the Foundation, we have been tracking
> Bassel's case for some time now, in direct contact with the organizers of
> the #FreeBassel campaign  [1], and Bassel's family.
> The actions we have taken to date have been in coordination and approval
> with the #FreeBassel campaign, including:
>
>- Coordination and communication with related organizations, such as the
>Electronic Frontier Foundation and Amnesty International. (ongoing)
>- Regular contact and updates with senior human rights officials at the
>U.S. State Department. (ongoing)
>- Outreach to the press around Bassel’s arbitrary detention and
>contributions to the free knowledge movement. Please see this WIRED
> story, “A
>Jailed Activist’s 3-D Models Could Save Syria’s History From ISIS
><
> http://www.wired.com/2015/10/jailed-activist-bassel-khartabil-3d-models-could-save-syrian-history-from-isis/
> >.”
>[2] (Although we did reach out to WIRED, we cannot say for certain if
> that
>story was the direct result of our efforts or others within the
> #FreeBassel
>coordination community). (10/21)
>- Raising Bassel’s case in public speaking opportunities, including
>Lila’s keynote to the Creative Commons Summit. (10/15)
>- Blog post #FREEBASSEL: Free culture advocate who built 3D renderings
>of Palmyra missing in Syria
> [3].
>(10/08)
>- Ongoing participation in #FreeBassel social media campaigns on
>Facebook and Twitter.
>
> Bassel is in a situation known as arbitrary detention
> <
> http://en.alkarama.org/1763-syria-un-calls-for-the-release-of-freedom-of-speech-advocate-bassel-khartabil
> >
> [4]. Arbitrary detentions are characterized by uncertainty, lack of
> information, and volatility. They’re scary because we don’t know what’s
> happening, and often we are making decisions without a lot of information.
> Our goal is always to support Bassel to make sure our efforts help him
> without putting him at greater risk. So we’ve been working with experienced
> human rights campaigners, including the #FreeBassel campaign, to understand
> the best actions to take at different times over the past two months.
>
> We’ve been in touch with Bassel’s family, who would support continued
> efforts to raise awareness about Bassel’s situation through a note on
> Wikipedia if that should happen. We can also join action letters (like this
> <
> http://www.amnesty.nl/nieuwsportaal/pers/syria-fears-life-free-expression-advocate
> >
> [5]) where the community agrees it's appropriate. If the community decides
> to move forward with an action, we are here to help. We are monitoring the
> discussions and activity in
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Banner:Free_Bassel as a place where
> community consensus can form. Please let us know if there’s anything else
> we can do to support efforts to raise awareness for Bassel.
>
> Katherine
>
> [1] http://freebassel.org/
> [2]
>
> http://www.wired.com/2015/10/jailed-activist-bassel-khartabil-3d-models-could-save-syrian-history-from-isis/
> [3] https://blog.wikimedia.org/2015/10/08/bassel-missing-syria/
> [4]
>
> http://en.alkarama.org/1763-syria-un-calls-for-the-release-of-freedom-of-speech-advocate-bassel-khartabil
> [5]
>
> http://www.amnesty.nl/nieuwsportaal/pers/syria-fears-life-free-expression-advocate
>
> On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 7:38 AM, Daniel Mietchen <
> daniel.mietc...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> > Yes, a CentralNotice would seem appropriate here.
> > Please help flesh it out at
> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Banner:Free_Bassel .
> >
> > Daniel
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 3:38 PM, Gerard Meijssen
> >  wrote:
> > > Hoi,
> > > I have started a text..
> > > Thanks,
> > >  GerardM
> > >
> > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Banner:Free_Bassel
> > >
> > > On 24 November 2015 at 15:25, Pete Forsyth 
> > wrote:
> > >
> 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Free Bassel

2015-11-25 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi,
I have looked at the article. It does not have the necessary urgency. He is
likely to have been sentenced to death and the article reads like a
Wikipedia article. This is Meta, it is not Wikipedia and it needs urgency.
We appeal to the world to get involved to let his death not happen. That is
imho what the message needs to be.
Thanks,
 GerardM

On 25 November 2015 at 02:57, Asaf Bartov  wrote:

> FYI: User:Odder has now created [[m:Free Bassel
> ]], as a landing page to link
> from the banner.
>
> If anyone would like to help with a design for the banner (I concede not
> everyone shares my taste for 10pt-black-on-white text), we would be able to
> move ahead.  There is, so far, nothing but support.
>
>A.
>
> On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 10:57 AM, Katherine Maher 
> wrote:
>
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > Thank you for raising this issue here on this list. I wanted to share
> some
> > more information about how we’ve been working to support Bassel to this
> > point, in public and behind the scenes. Unfortunately, some efforts are
> > sensitive, so can’t be shared in full on public mailing lists. But we’re
> > committed to supporting next steps or decisions by the community, and
> > keeping you updated going forward.
> >
> > Working with some other colleagues at the Foundation, we have been
> tracking
> > Bassel's case for some time now, in direct contact with the organizers of
> > the #FreeBassel campaign  [1], and Bassel's
> family.
> > The actions we have taken to date have been in coordination and approval
> > with the #FreeBassel campaign, including:
> >
> >- Coordination and communication with related organizations, such as
> the
> >Electronic Frontier Foundation and Amnesty International. (ongoing)
> >- Regular contact and updates with senior human rights officials at
> the
> >U.S. State Department. (ongoing)
> >- Outreach to the press around Bassel’s arbitrary detention and
> >contributions to the free knowledge movement. Please see this WIRED
> > story, “A
> >Jailed Activist’s 3-D Models Could Save Syria’s History From ISIS
> ><
> >
> http://www.wired.com/2015/10/jailed-activist-bassel-khartabil-3d-models-could-save-syrian-history-from-isis/
> > >.”
> >[2] (Although we did reach out to WIRED, we cannot say for certain if
> > that
> >story was the direct result of our efforts or others within the
> > #FreeBassel
> >coordination community). (10/21)
> >- Raising Bassel’s case in public speaking opportunities, including
> >Lila’s keynote to the Creative Commons Summit. (10/15)
> >- Blog post #FREEBASSEL: Free culture advocate who built 3D renderings
> >of Palmyra missing in Syria
> > [3].
> >(10/08)
> >- Ongoing participation in #FreeBassel social media campaigns on
> >Facebook and Twitter.
> >
> > Bassel is in a situation known as arbitrary detention
> > <
> >
> http://en.alkarama.org/1763-syria-un-calls-for-the-release-of-freedom-of-speech-advocate-bassel-khartabil
> > >
> > [4]. Arbitrary detentions are characterized by uncertainty, lack of
> > information, and volatility. They’re scary because we don’t know what’s
> > happening, and often we are making decisions without a lot of
> information.
> > Our goal is always to support Bassel to make sure our efforts help him
> > without putting him at greater risk. So we’ve been working with
> experienced
> > human rights campaigners, including the #FreeBassel campaign, to
> understand
> > the best actions to take at different times over the past two months.
> >
> > We’ve been in touch with Bassel’s family, who would support continued
> > efforts to raise awareness about Bassel’s situation through a note on
> > Wikipedia if that should happen. We can also join action letters (like
> this
> > <
> >
> http://www.amnesty.nl/nieuwsportaal/pers/syria-fears-life-free-expression-advocate
> > >
> > [5]) where the community agrees it's appropriate. If the community
> decides
> > to move forward with an action, we are here to help. We are monitoring
> the
> > discussions and activity in
> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Banner:Free_Bassel as a place where
> > community consensus can form. Please let us know if there’s anything else
> > we can do to support efforts to raise awareness for Bassel.
> >
> > Katherine
> >
> > [1] http://freebassel.org/
> > [2]
> >
> >
> http://www.wired.com/2015/10/jailed-activist-bassel-khartabil-3d-models-could-save-syrian-history-from-isis/
> > [3] https://blog.wikimedia.org/2015/10/08/bassel-missing-syria/
> > [4]
> >
> >
> http://en.alkarama.org/1763-syria-un-calls-for-the-release-of-freedom-of-speech-advocate-bassel-khartabil
> > [5]
> >
> >
> http://www.amnesty.nl/nieuwsportaal/pers/syria-fears-life-free-expression-advocate
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 7:38 AM, Daniel Mietchen <

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Free Bassel

2015-11-24 Thread Asaf Bartov
FYI: User:Odder has now created [[m:Free Bassel
]], as a landing page to link
from the banner.

If anyone would like to help with a design for the banner (I concede not
everyone shares my taste for 10pt-black-on-white text), we would be able to
move ahead.  There is, so far, nothing but support.

   A.

On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 10:57 AM, Katherine Maher 
wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> Thank you for raising this issue here on this list. I wanted to share some
> more information about how we’ve been working to support Bassel to this
> point, in public and behind the scenes. Unfortunately, some efforts are
> sensitive, so can’t be shared in full on public mailing lists. But we’re
> committed to supporting next steps or decisions by the community, and
> keeping you updated going forward.
>
> Working with some other colleagues at the Foundation, we have been tracking
> Bassel's case for some time now, in direct contact with the organizers of
> the #FreeBassel campaign  [1], and Bassel's family.
> The actions we have taken to date have been in coordination and approval
> with the #FreeBassel campaign, including:
>
>- Coordination and communication with related organizations, such as the
>Electronic Frontier Foundation and Amnesty International. (ongoing)
>- Regular contact and updates with senior human rights officials at the
>U.S. State Department. (ongoing)
>- Outreach to the press around Bassel’s arbitrary detention and
>contributions to the free knowledge movement. Please see this WIRED
> story, “A
>Jailed Activist’s 3-D Models Could Save Syria’s History From ISIS
><
> http://www.wired.com/2015/10/jailed-activist-bassel-khartabil-3d-models-could-save-syrian-history-from-isis/
> >.”
>[2] (Although we did reach out to WIRED, we cannot say for certain if
> that
>story was the direct result of our efforts or others within the
> #FreeBassel
>coordination community). (10/21)
>- Raising Bassel’s case in public speaking opportunities, including
>Lila’s keynote to the Creative Commons Summit. (10/15)
>- Blog post #FREEBASSEL: Free culture advocate who built 3D renderings
>of Palmyra missing in Syria
> [3].
>(10/08)
>- Ongoing participation in #FreeBassel social media campaigns on
>Facebook and Twitter.
>
> Bassel is in a situation known as arbitrary detention
> <
> http://en.alkarama.org/1763-syria-un-calls-for-the-release-of-freedom-of-speech-advocate-bassel-khartabil
> >
> [4]. Arbitrary detentions are characterized by uncertainty, lack of
> information, and volatility. They’re scary because we don’t know what’s
> happening, and often we are making decisions without a lot of information.
> Our goal is always to support Bassel to make sure our efforts help him
> without putting him at greater risk. So we’ve been working with experienced
> human rights campaigners, including the #FreeBassel campaign, to understand
> the best actions to take at different times over the past two months.
>
> We’ve been in touch with Bassel’s family, who would support continued
> efforts to raise awareness about Bassel’s situation through a note on
> Wikipedia if that should happen. We can also join action letters (like this
> <
> http://www.amnesty.nl/nieuwsportaal/pers/syria-fears-life-free-expression-advocate
> >
> [5]) where the community agrees it's appropriate. If the community decides
> to move forward with an action, we are here to help. We are monitoring the
> discussions and activity in
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Banner:Free_Bassel as a place where
> community consensus can form. Please let us know if there’s anything else
> we can do to support efforts to raise awareness for Bassel.
>
> Katherine
>
> [1] http://freebassel.org/
> [2]
>
> http://www.wired.com/2015/10/jailed-activist-bassel-khartabil-3d-models-could-save-syrian-history-from-isis/
> [3] https://blog.wikimedia.org/2015/10/08/bassel-missing-syria/
> [4]
>
> http://en.alkarama.org/1763-syria-un-calls-for-the-release-of-freedom-of-speech-advocate-bassel-khartabil
> [5]
>
> http://www.amnesty.nl/nieuwsportaal/pers/syria-fears-life-free-expression-advocate
>
> On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 7:38 AM, Daniel Mietchen <
> daniel.mietc...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> > Yes, a CentralNotice would seem appropriate here.
> > Please help flesh it out at
> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Banner:Free_Bassel .
> >
> > Daniel
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 3:38 PM, Gerard Meijssen
> >  wrote:
> > > Hoi,
> > > I have started a text..
> > > Thanks,
> > >  GerardM
> > >
> > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Banner:Free_Bassel
> > >
> > > On 24 November 2015 at 15:25, Pete Forsyth 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >> +1
> > >> Gerard, or Andrea, or anybody who knows better than myself, could you
> > start
> > >> a draft on 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Free Bassel

2015-11-24 Thread Sam Klein
Thank you to everyone working on this.

Basel is a beautiful person, who contributed in so many ways to sharing
knowledge, not only in our community.

A banner (in rotation for a month?  with a focused drive on one day
coordinated w/ other activist groups?), and possibly a logo ribbon, would
be most appropriate.

Andrea writes:
> Also, remember: we have few days before we'll ask money again to all the 
> English-speaking
countries.
> How could we ask for money when we are not using the power that was bestowed
upon us by the very
> same spirit, love and courage that is condemning Bassel to death?

Very well said.


On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 2:57 AM, Asaf Bartov  wrote:

> FYI: User:Odder has now created [[m:Free Bassel
> ]], as a landing page to link
> from the banner.
>
> If anyone would like to help with a design for the banner (I concede not
> everyone shares my taste for 10pt-black-on-white text), we would be able to
> move ahead.  There is, so far, nothing but support.
>

Let's A/B test some of the images from the category of media of him on
Commons. I like the photoset with his wife, but there are others that have
been used on banners and pins before.

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Bassel_Khartabil

SJ
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Free Bassel

2015-11-24 Thread Sandra Rientjes Wikimedia Nederland
We have put a message on the Wikimedia Nederland website.  We hope to get a
lot of visitors tomorrow because of the Erasmusprize-ceremony.  Not a
central notice, but it is a start.

Sandra Rientjes
Directeur/Executive Director Wikimedia Nederland

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mob. (+31) (0)6  31786379

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2015-11-24 16:38 GMT+01:00 Daniel Mietchen :

> Yes, a CentralNotice would seem appropriate here.
> Please help flesh it out at
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Banner:Free_Bassel .
>
> Daniel
>
> On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 3:38 PM, Gerard Meijssen
>  wrote:
> > Hoi,
> > I have started a text..
> > Thanks,
> >  GerardM
> >
> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Banner:Free_Bassel
> >
> > On 24 November 2015 at 15:25, Pete Forsyth 
> wrote:
> >
> >> +1
> >> Gerard, or Andrea, or anybody who knows better than myself, could you
> start
> >> a draft on Meta Wiki with a proposed text for a banner, and where it
> should
> >> link/what it should advise readers to do?
> >> Pete
> >> On Nov 24, 2015 3:13 AM, "Tito Dutta"  wrote:
> >>
> >> > Sad news. Agree with everyone here that we should do something.
> >> >
> >> > On 24 November 2015 at 16:38, Gerard Meijssen <
> gerard.meijs...@gmail.com
> >> >
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Hoi,
> >> > > Tomorrow we have a platform as well at the Erasmus award ceremony in
> >> > > Amsterdam. It is Wikipedia, its community that is receiving the
> award..
> >> > > Thanks,
> >> > >  GerardM
> >> > >
> >> > > On 24 November 2015 at 12:03, Cristian Consonni <
> >> kikkocrist...@gmail.com
> >> > >
> >> > > wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > > 2015-11-24 10:47 GMT+01:00 Andrea Zanni  >:
> >> > > > > Use the centralnotice.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > [...]
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > A Wikipedian, a member of our community sentenced to death for
> >> > > believing
> >> > > > in
> >> > > > > our Mission and Vision is something extraordinary. I understand
> the
> >> > > > caution
> >> > > > > of setting a precedent, but I think it's worth it.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Also, remember: we have few days before we'll ask money again to
> >> all
> >> > > the
> >> > > > > English-speaking countries.
> >> > > > > How could we ask for money when we are not using the power that
> was
> >> > > > > bestowed upon us by the very same spirit, love and courage that
> is
> >> > > > > condemning Bassel to death?
> >> > > >
> >> > > > I strongly support this.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > As for the precedent, recall that the Wikimedia Foundation
> supports
> >> > > > the users, we did this with User:Diu in Greece:
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
> https://blog.wikimedia.org/2014/02/14/wikimedia-foundation-supports-wikipedia-user-subject-to-defamation-lawsuit-in-greece/
> >> > > >
> >> > > > This is much more than a lawsuit.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > A message I do not want us to send is that if you enough force or
> the
> >> > > > threat is big enough, then we, as a movement, will be scared away.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > C
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Free Bassel

2015-11-24 Thread Katherine Maher
Hi everyone,

Thank you for raising this issue here on this list. I wanted to share some
more information about how we’ve been working to support Bassel to this
point, in public and behind the scenes. Unfortunately, some efforts are
sensitive, so can’t be shared in full on public mailing lists. But we’re
committed to supporting next steps or decisions by the community, and
keeping you updated going forward.

Working with some other colleagues at the Foundation, we have been tracking
Bassel's case for some time now, in direct contact with the organizers of
the #FreeBassel campaign  [1], and Bassel's family.
The actions we have taken to date have been in coordination and approval
with the #FreeBassel campaign, including:

   - Coordination and communication with related organizations, such as the
   Electronic Frontier Foundation and Amnesty International. (ongoing)
   - Regular contact and updates with senior human rights officials at the
   U.S. State Department. (ongoing)
   - Outreach to the press around Bassel’s arbitrary detention and
   contributions to the free knowledge movement. Please see this WIRED
story, “A
   Jailed Activist’s 3-D Models Could Save Syria’s History From ISIS
   
.”
   [2] (Although we did reach out to WIRED, we cannot say for certain if that
   story was the direct result of our efforts or others within the #FreeBassel
   coordination community). (10/21)
   - Raising Bassel’s case in public speaking opportunities, including
   Lila’s keynote to the Creative Commons Summit. (10/15)
   - Blog post #FREEBASSEL: Free culture advocate who built 3D renderings
   of Palmyra missing in Syria
    [3].
   (10/08)
   - Ongoing participation in #FreeBassel social media campaigns on
   Facebook and Twitter.

Bassel is in a situation known as arbitrary detention

[4]. Arbitrary detentions are characterized by uncertainty, lack of
information, and volatility. They’re scary because we don’t know what’s
happening, and often we are making decisions without a lot of information.
Our goal is always to support Bassel to make sure our efforts help him
without putting him at greater risk. So we’ve been working with experienced
human rights campaigners, including the #FreeBassel campaign, to understand
the best actions to take at different times over the past two months.

We’ve been in touch with Bassel’s family, who would support continued
efforts to raise awareness about Bassel’s situation through a note on
Wikipedia if that should happen. We can also join action letters (like this

[5]) where the community agrees it's appropriate. If the community decides
to move forward with an action, we are here to help. We are monitoring the
discussions and activity in
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Banner:Free_Bassel as a place where
community consensus can form. Please let us know if there’s anything else
we can do to support efforts to raise awareness for Bassel.

Katherine

[1] http://freebassel.org/
[2]
http://www.wired.com/2015/10/jailed-activist-bassel-khartabil-3d-models-could-save-syrian-history-from-isis/
[3] https://blog.wikimedia.org/2015/10/08/bassel-missing-syria/
[4]
http://en.alkarama.org/1763-syria-un-calls-for-the-release-of-freedom-of-speech-advocate-bassel-khartabil
[5]
http://www.amnesty.nl/nieuwsportaal/pers/syria-fears-life-free-expression-advocate

On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 7:38 AM, Daniel Mietchen <
daniel.mietc...@googlemail.com> wrote:

> Yes, a CentralNotice would seem appropriate here.
> Please help flesh it out at
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Banner:Free_Bassel .
>
> Daniel
>
> On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 3:38 PM, Gerard Meijssen
>  wrote:
> > Hoi,
> > I have started a text..
> > Thanks,
> >  GerardM
> >
> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Banner:Free_Bassel
> >
> > On 24 November 2015 at 15:25, Pete Forsyth 
> wrote:
> >
> >> +1
> >> Gerard, or Andrea, or anybody who knows better than myself, could you
> start
> >> a draft on Meta Wiki with a proposed text for a banner, and where it
> should
> >> link/what it should advise readers to do?
> >> Pete
> >> On Nov 24, 2015 3:13 AM, "Tito Dutta"  wrote:
> >>
> >> > Sad news. Agree with everyone here that we should do something.
> >> >
> >> > On 24 November 2015 at 16:38, Gerard Meijssen <
> gerard.meijs...@gmail.com
> >> >
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Hoi,
> >> > > Tomorrow we have a platform as well at the Erasmus award ceremony in
> >> > > Amsterdam. It is Wikipedia, its community that is receiving the
> award..
> >> > > Thanks,
> >> > >  GerardM
> >> > >
> >> > > On 24 November 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Free Bassel

2015-11-24 Thread Emmanuel Engelhart
On 24.11.2015 08:22, Gerard Meijssen wrote:
> We need to do much better than this. This is a Wikipedian. It is a notable
> person in his own right and we sit on our hands?

Yes. The movement needs to free resources quickly to campaign
efficiently on this.

Emmanuel

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Free Bassel

2015-11-24 Thread Andrea Zanni
It one day that I have this reply in my Drafts...

---

On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 6:25 PM, Samir Elsharbaty  wrote:

> Some suggestions of things we can do:
>

Use the centralnotice.

---

Gerard said it too.
I understand that this is something unprecedented, as it was the Wikipedia
"strike" for SOPA/PIPA.
I don't know how diplomacy works: but I bet everyone in the world would be
scared when Wikipedia puts something in the most visible place in the
world.
We could add a black ribbon to the logo, or use directly the CentralNotice.

I'd like to invite the Board and Lila and the whole Community to seriously
think about it.

A Wikipedian, a member of our community sentenced to death for believing in
our Mission and Vision is something extraordinary. I understand the caution
of setting a precedent, but I think it's worth it.

Also, remember: we have few days before we'll ask money again to all the
English-speaking countries.
How could we ask for money when we are not using the power that was
bestowed upon us by the very same spirit, love and courage that is
condemning Bassel to death?

Aubrey
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Free Bassel

2015-11-24 Thread Cristian Consonni
2015-11-24 10:47 GMT+01:00 Andrea Zanni :
> Use the centralnotice.

[...]

> A Wikipedian, a member of our community sentenced to death for believing in
> our Mission and Vision is something extraordinary. I understand the caution
> of setting a precedent, but I think it's worth it.
>
> Also, remember: we have few days before we'll ask money again to all the
> English-speaking countries.
> How could we ask for money when we are not using the power that was
> bestowed upon us by the very same spirit, love and courage that is
> condemning Bassel to death?

I strongly support this.

As for the precedent, recall that the Wikimedia Foundation supports
the users, we did this with User:Diu in Greece:
https://blog.wikimedia.org/2014/02/14/wikimedia-foundation-supports-wikipedia-user-subject-to-defamation-lawsuit-in-greece/

This is much more than a lawsuit.

A message I do not want us to send is that if you enough force or the
threat is big enough, then we, as a movement, will be scared away.

C

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Free Bassel

2015-11-24 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi,
I have started a text..
Thanks,
 GerardM

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Banner:Free_Bassel

On 24 November 2015 at 15:25, Pete Forsyth  wrote:

> +1
> Gerard, or Andrea, or anybody who knows better than myself, could you start
> a draft on Meta Wiki with a proposed text for a banner, and where it should
> link/what it should advise readers to do?
> Pete
> On Nov 24, 2015 3:13 AM, "Tito Dutta"  wrote:
>
> > Sad news. Agree with everyone here that we should do something.
> >
> > On 24 November 2015 at 16:38, Gerard Meijssen  >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hoi,
> > > Tomorrow we have a platform as well at the Erasmus award ceremony in
> > > Amsterdam. It is Wikipedia, its community that is receiving the award..
> > > Thanks,
> > >  GerardM
> > >
> > > On 24 November 2015 at 12:03, Cristian Consonni <
> kikkocrist...@gmail.com
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > 2015-11-24 10:47 GMT+01:00 Andrea Zanni :
> > > > > Use the centralnotice.
> > > >
> > > > [...]
> > > >
> > > > > A Wikipedian, a member of our community sentenced to death for
> > > believing
> > > > in
> > > > > our Mission and Vision is something extraordinary. I understand the
> > > > caution
> > > > > of setting a precedent, but I think it's worth it.
> > > > >
> > > > > Also, remember: we have few days before we'll ask money again to
> all
> > > the
> > > > > English-speaking countries.
> > > > > How could we ask for money when we are not using the power that was
> > > > > bestowed upon us by the very same spirit, love and courage that is
> > > > > condemning Bassel to death?
> > > >
> > > > I strongly support this.
> > > >
> > > > As for the precedent, recall that the Wikimedia Foundation supports
> > > > the users, we did this with User:Diu in Greece:
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://blog.wikimedia.org/2014/02/14/wikimedia-foundation-supports-wikipedia-user-subject-to-defamation-lawsuit-in-greece/
> > > >
> > > > This is much more than a lawsuit.
> > > >
> > > > A message I do not want us to send is that if you enough force or the
> > > > threat is big enough, then we, as a movement, will be scared away.
> > > >
> > > > C
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Free Bassel

2015-11-24 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi,
Tomorrow we have a platform as well at the Erasmus award ceremony in
Amsterdam. It is Wikipedia, its community that is receiving the award..
Thanks,
 GerardM

On 24 November 2015 at 12:03, Cristian Consonni 
wrote:

> 2015-11-24 10:47 GMT+01:00 Andrea Zanni :
> > Use the centralnotice.
>
> [...]
>
> > A Wikipedian, a member of our community sentenced to death for believing
> in
> > our Mission and Vision is something extraordinary. I understand the
> caution
> > of setting a precedent, but I think it's worth it.
> >
> > Also, remember: we have few days before we'll ask money again to all the
> > English-speaking countries.
> > How could we ask for money when we are not using the power that was
> > bestowed upon us by the very same spirit, love and courage that is
> > condemning Bassel to death?
>
> I strongly support this.
>
> As for the precedent, recall that the Wikimedia Foundation supports
> the users, we did this with User:Diu in Greece:
>
> https://blog.wikimedia.org/2014/02/14/wikimedia-foundation-supports-wikipedia-user-subject-to-defamation-lawsuit-in-greece/
>
> This is much more than a lawsuit.
>
> A message I do not want us to send is that if you enough force or the
> threat is big enough, then we, as a movement, will be scared away.
>
> C
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Free Bassel

2015-11-24 Thread Tito Dutta
Sad news. Agree with everyone here that we should do something.

On 24 November 2015 at 16:38, Gerard Meijssen 
wrote:

> Hoi,
> Tomorrow we have a platform as well at the Erasmus award ceremony in
> Amsterdam. It is Wikipedia, its community that is receiving the award..
> Thanks,
>  GerardM
>
> On 24 November 2015 at 12:03, Cristian Consonni 
> wrote:
>
> > 2015-11-24 10:47 GMT+01:00 Andrea Zanni :
> > > Use the centralnotice.
> >
> > [...]
> >
> > > A Wikipedian, a member of our community sentenced to death for
> believing
> > in
> > > our Mission and Vision is something extraordinary. I understand the
> > caution
> > > of setting a precedent, but I think it's worth it.
> > >
> > > Also, remember: we have few days before we'll ask money again to all
> the
> > > English-speaking countries.
> > > How could we ask for money when we are not using the power that was
> > > bestowed upon us by the very same spirit, love and courage that is
> > > condemning Bassel to death?
> >
> > I strongly support this.
> >
> > As for the precedent, recall that the Wikimedia Foundation supports
> > the users, we did this with User:Diu in Greece:
> >
> >
> https://blog.wikimedia.org/2014/02/14/wikimedia-foundation-supports-wikipedia-user-subject-to-defamation-lawsuit-in-greece/
> >
> > This is much more than a lawsuit.
> >
> > A message I do not want us to send is that if you enough force or the
> > threat is big enough, then we, as a movement, will be scared away.
> >
> > C
> >
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Free Bassel

2015-11-24 Thread Daniel Mietchen
Yes, a CentralNotice would seem appropriate here.
Please help flesh it out at
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Banner:Free_Bassel .

Daniel

On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 3:38 PM, Gerard Meijssen
 wrote:
> Hoi,
> I have started a text..
> Thanks,
>  GerardM
>
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Banner:Free_Bassel
>
> On 24 November 2015 at 15:25, Pete Forsyth  wrote:
>
>> +1
>> Gerard, or Andrea, or anybody who knows better than myself, could you start
>> a draft on Meta Wiki with a proposed text for a banner, and where it should
>> link/what it should advise readers to do?
>> Pete
>> On Nov 24, 2015 3:13 AM, "Tito Dutta"  wrote:
>>
>> > Sad news. Agree with everyone here that we should do something.
>> >
>> > On 24 November 2015 at 16:38, Gerard Meijssen > >
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > > Hoi,
>> > > Tomorrow we have a platform as well at the Erasmus award ceremony in
>> > > Amsterdam. It is Wikipedia, its community that is receiving the award..
>> > > Thanks,
>> > >  GerardM
>> > >
>> > > On 24 November 2015 at 12:03, Cristian Consonni <
>> kikkocrist...@gmail.com
>> > >
>> > > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > 2015-11-24 10:47 GMT+01:00 Andrea Zanni :
>> > > > > Use the centralnotice.
>> > > >
>> > > > [...]
>> > > >
>> > > > > A Wikipedian, a member of our community sentenced to death for
>> > > believing
>> > > > in
>> > > > > our Mission and Vision is something extraordinary. I understand the
>> > > > caution
>> > > > > of setting a precedent, but I think it's worth it.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Also, remember: we have few days before we'll ask money again to
>> all
>> > > the
>> > > > > English-speaking countries.
>> > > > > How could we ask for money when we are not using the power that was
>> > > > > bestowed upon us by the very same spirit, love and courage that is
>> > > > > condemning Bassel to death?
>> > > >
>> > > > I strongly support this.
>> > > >
>> > > > As for the precedent, recall that the Wikimedia Foundation supports
>> > > > the users, we did this with User:Diu in Greece:
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>> >
>> https://blog.wikimedia.org/2014/02/14/wikimedia-foundation-supports-wikipedia-user-subject-to-defamation-lawsuit-in-greece/
>> > > >
>> > > > This is much more than a lawsuit.
>> > > >
>> > > > A message I do not want us to send is that if you enough force or the
>> > > > threat is big enough, then we, as a movement, will be scared away.
>> > > >
>> > > > C
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Free Bassel

2015-11-23 Thread Lila Tretikov
We will check on both.

On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 10:17 AM, rupert THURNER 
wrote:

> Lila, would you be able to somehow contact the Russian government?
> On Nov 23, 2015 18:25, "Samir Elsharbaty" 
> wrote:
>
> > Some suggestions of things we can do:
> >
> > 1. The list of signatories on the amnesty international website does not
> > include the WMF, the Wikimedia community, any of our affiliations or any
> > representation from the Wikimedia movement. I wonder if we can contact
> them
> > and request adding any of the above mentioned?
> >
> > 2. Use our SM channels to retweet the WMF blog post [1] about him with
> the
> > news that he is sentenced to death.
> >
> > 3. We all try to share supporting tweets on the #FreeBassel hashtag.
> >
> > [1] http://blog.wikimedia.org/2015/10/08/bassel-missing-syria/
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Samir
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 7:02 PM, Lila Tretikov 
> wrote:
> >
> > > Gerard, this is devastating news. Please send our love to Bassel's
> > family.
> > > I still hope this is not true.
> > >
> > > If there is anything we can do from here please let us know.
> > > Lila
> > >
> > > On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 2:12 AM, Gerard Meijssen <
> > > gerard.meijs...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hoi,
> > > > I was so afraid when I read that Bassel has been sentenced to death.
> I
> > > read
> > > > it on the website of Amnesty International [1]. I blogged about him
> in
> > > the
> > > > past [2]. I am sad to say that it is him.
> > > >
> > > > Bassel was active as a Wikimedian, he worked towards making
> information
> > > > available about Palmyra.
> > > >
> > > > If there is anything that we can do, please let us do this.
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >   GerardM
> > > >
> > > > [1]
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> http://www.amnesty.nl/nieuwsportaal/pers/syria-fears-life-free-expression-advocate
> > > > [2]
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> http://ultimategerardm.blogspot.nl/2015/10/freebassel-free-culture-advocate-who.html
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Free Bassel

2015-11-23 Thread rupert THURNER
Lila, would you be able to somehow contact the Russian government?
On Nov 23, 2015 18:25, "Samir Elsharbaty"  wrote:

> Some suggestions of things we can do:
>
> 1. The list of signatories on the amnesty international website does not
> include the WMF, the Wikimedia community, any of our affiliations or any
> representation from the Wikimedia movement. I wonder if we can contact them
> and request adding any of the above mentioned?
>
> 2. Use our SM channels to retweet the WMF blog post [1] about him with the
> news that he is sentenced to death.
>
> 3. We all try to share supporting tweets on the #FreeBassel hashtag.
>
> [1] http://blog.wikimedia.org/2015/10/08/bassel-missing-syria/
>
> Thanks,
>
> Samir
>
> On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 7:02 PM, Lila Tretikov  wrote:
>
> > Gerard, this is devastating news. Please send our love to Bassel's
> family.
> > I still hope this is not true.
> >
> > If there is anything we can do from here please let us know.
> > Lila
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 2:12 AM, Gerard Meijssen <
> > gerard.meijs...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hoi,
> > > I was so afraid when I read that Bassel has been sentenced to death. I
> > read
> > > it on the website of Amnesty International [1]. I blogged about him in
> > the
> > > past [2]. I am sad to say that it is him.
> > >
> > > Bassel was active as a Wikimedian, he worked towards making information
> > > available about Palmyra.
> > >
> > > If there is anything that we can do, please let us do this.
> > > Thanks,
> > >   GerardM
> > >
> > > [1]
> > >
> > >
> >
> http://www.amnesty.nl/nieuwsportaal/pers/syria-fears-life-free-expression-advocate
> > > [2]
> > >
> > >
> >
> http://ultimategerardm.blogspot.nl/2015/10/freebassel-free-culture-advocate-who.html
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Free Bassel

2015-11-23 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi,
Sorry but in my opinion there seems to be a lack of urgency. An update to
an old blogpost when someone is sentenced to death? Is that all?REALLY

At this time we can make a big issue out of it by asking attention for
Bassel from our Central Notice. It is after all the first time that a
Wikipedian is likely to die for the things that we value... What is the
value of a life, of a Wikipedian of someone from Syria?

We need to do much better than this. This is a Wikipedian. It is a notable
person in his own right and we sit on our hands?

GerardM

On 23 November 2015 at 22:16, Jeff Elder <jel...@wikimedia.org> wrote:

> Hi Samir and all,
>
> We are happy to continue posting about Bassel, with all our hopes that he
> emerges OK.
>
> We posted about this latest development when it was first reported a few
> weeks ago. This morning we updated our blog post
> <http://blog.wikimedia.org/2015/10/08/bassel-missing-syria/> and reshared
> it  <https://twitter.com/Wikimedia/status/668886735586066432>out on
> Twitter
> and Facebook <https://www.facebook.com/wikipedia/posts/10153658400313346>.
> I also RT'd Creative Commons, who posted about it, and with whom we've been
> in touch on this. And we have posted Noura's video
> <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page> on Facebook. (It's media of
> the day on Wikimedia Commons.) I'll tweet the video later today and stay in
> touch with other orgs on Twitter posting about him.
>
> Keeping Bassel in our thoughts,
>
> Jeff Elder
> Digital communications manager
> Wikimedia Foundation
> 704-650-4130
> @jeffelder <https://twitter.com/JeffElder>
> @wikipedia <https://twitter.com/wikipedia>
> The Wikimedia blog <https://blog.wikimedia.org/>
>
> Jeff Elder
> Digital communications manager
> Wikimedia Foundation
> 704-650-4130
> @jeffelder <https://twitter.com/JeffElder>
> @wikipedia <https://twitter.com/wikipedia>
> The Wikimedia blog <https://blog.wikimedia.org/>
>
> On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 1:10 PM, Satdeep Gill <satdeep_g...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> > This is such a sad news. I have been following news about him and i can't
> > believe this. This is a black day in the history of Human Civilization.
> We
> > can indeed do little things like sharing posts about him and writing
> about
> > him because that is all we can do perhaps.
> >
> > Regards
> > Satdeep Gill
> > Punjabi Wikimedians
> >
> > > On 23-Nov-2015, at 8:36 PM, wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org
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> > > Gerard, this is devastating news. Please send our love to Bassel's
> > family.
> > > I still hope this is not true.
> > >
> > > If there is anything we can do from here please let us know.
> > > Lila
> > >
> > > On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 2:12 AM, Gerard Meijssen <
> > gerard.meijs...@gmail.co

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Free Bassel

2015-11-23 Thread Samir Elsharbaty
Some suggestions of things we can do:

1. The list of signatories on the amnesty international website does not
include the WMF, the Wikimedia community, any of our affiliations or any
representation from the Wikimedia movement. I wonder if we can contact them
and request adding any of the above mentioned?

2. Use our SM channels to retweet the WMF blog post [1] about him with the
news that he is sentenced to death.

3. We all try to share supporting tweets on the #FreeBassel hashtag.

[1] http://blog.wikimedia.org/2015/10/08/bassel-missing-syria/

Thanks,

Samir

On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 7:02 PM, Lila Tretikov  wrote:

> Gerard, this is devastating news. Please send our love to Bassel's family.
> I still hope this is not true.
>
> If there is anything we can do from here please let us know.
> Lila
>
> On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 2:12 AM, Gerard Meijssen <
> gerard.meijs...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hoi,
> > I was so afraid when I read that Bassel has been sentenced to death. I
> read
> > it on the website of Amnesty International [1]. I blogged about him in
> the
> > past [2]. I am sad to say that it is him.
> >
> > Bassel was active as a Wikimedian, he worked towards making information
> > available about Palmyra.
> >
> > If there is anything that we can do, please let us do this.
> > Thanks,
> >   GerardM
> >
> > [1]
> >
> >
> http://www.amnesty.nl/nieuwsportaal/pers/syria-fears-life-free-expression-advocate
> > [2]
> >
> >
> http://ultimategerardm.blogspot.nl/2015/10/freebassel-free-culture-advocate-who.html
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Free Bassel

2015-11-23 Thread Satdeep Gill
This is such a sad news. I have been following news about him and i can't 
believe this. This is a black day in the history of Human Civilization. We can 
indeed do little things like sharing posts about him and writing about him 
because that is all we can do perhaps.

Regards
Satdeep Gill
Punjabi Wikimedians

> On 23-Nov-2015, at 8:36 PM, wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org wrote:
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>  (Samir Elsharbaty)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2015 09:02:28 -0800
> From: Lila Tretikov <l...@wikimedia.org>
> To: Wikimedia Mailing List <wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org>
> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Free Bassel
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> 
> Gerard, this is devastating news. Please send our love to Bassel's family.
> I still hope this is not true.
> 
> If there is anything we can do from here please let us know.
> Lila
> 
> On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 2:12 AM, Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijs...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> Hoi,
>> I was so afraid when I read that Bassel has been sentenced to death. I read
>> it on the website of Amnesty International [1]. I blogged about him in the
>> past [2]. I am sad to say that it is him.
>> 
>> Bassel was active as a Wikimedian, he worked towards making information
>> available about Palmyra.
>> 
>> If there is anything that we can do, please let us do this.
>> Thanks,
>>  GerardM
>> 
>> [1]
>> 
>> http://www.amnesty.nl/nieuwsportaal/pers/syria-fears-life-free-expression-advocate
>> [2]
>> 
>> http://ultimategerardm.blogspot.nl/2015/10/freebassel-free-culture-advocate-who.html
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> Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2015 19:25:24 +0200
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> To: Wikimedia Mailing List <wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org>
> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Free Bassel
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> Some suggestions of things we can do:
> 
> 1. The list of signatories on the amnesty international website does not
> include the WMF, the Wikimedia community, any of our affiliations or any
> representation from the Wikimedia movement. I wonder if we can contact them
> and request adding any of the above mentioned?
> 
> 2. Use our SM channels to retweet the WMF blog post [1] about him with the
> news that he is sentenced to death.
> 
> 3. We all try to share supporting tweets on the #FreeBassel hashtag.
> 
> [1] http://blog.wikimedia.org/2015/10/08/bassel-missing-syria/
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Samir
> 
>> On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 7:02 PM, Lila Tretikov <l...@wikimedia.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Gerard, this is devastating news. Please send our love to Bassel's family.
>> I still hope this is not true.
>> 
>> If there is anything we can do from here please let us know.
>> Lila
>> 
>> On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 2:12 AM, Gerard Meijssen <
>> gerard.meijs...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hoi,
>>> I was so afraid when I read that Bassel has been sentenced to dea

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Free Bassel

2015-11-23 Thread Jeff Elder
Hi Samir and all,

We are happy to continue posting about Bassel, with all our hopes that he
emerges OK.

We posted about this latest development when it was first reported a few
weeks ago. This morning we updated our blog post
<http://blog.wikimedia.org/2015/10/08/bassel-missing-syria/> and reshared
it  <https://twitter.com/Wikimedia/status/668886735586066432>out on Twitter
and Facebook <https://www.facebook.com/wikipedia/posts/10153658400313346>.
I also RT'd Creative Commons, who posted about it, and with whom we've been
in touch on this. And we have posted Noura's video
<https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page> on Facebook. (It's media of
the day on Wikimedia Commons.) I'll tweet the video later today and stay in
touch with other orgs on Twitter posting about him.

Keeping Bassel in our thoughts,

Jeff Elder
Digital communications manager
Wikimedia Foundation
704-650-4130
@jeffelder <https://twitter.com/JeffElder>
@wikipedia <https://twitter.com/wikipedia>
The Wikimedia blog <https://blog.wikimedia.org/>

Jeff Elder
Digital communications manager
Wikimedia Foundation
704-650-4130
@jeffelder <https://twitter.com/JeffElder>
@wikipedia <https://twitter.com/wikipedia>
The Wikimedia blog <https://blog.wikimedia.org/>

On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 1:10 PM, Satdeep Gill <satdeep_g...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

> This is such a sad news. I have been following news about him and i can't
> believe this. This is a black day in the history of Human Civilization. We
> can indeed do little things like sharing posts about him and writing about
> him because that is all we can do perhaps.
>
> Regards
> Satdeep Gill
> Punjabi Wikimedians
>
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> >  (Samir Elsharbaty)
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> >   5. Re: Free Bassel (rupert THURNER)
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> >
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> > Gerard, this is devastating news. Please send our love to Bassel's
> family.
> > I still hope this is not true.
> >
> > If there is anything we can do from here please let us know.
> > Lila
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 2:12 AM, Gerard Meijssen <
> gerard.meijs...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Hoi,
> >> I was so afraid when I read that Bassel has been sentenced to death. I
> read
> >> it on the website of Amnesty International [1]. I blogged about him in
> the
> >> past [2]. I am sad to say that it is him.
> >>
> >> Bassel was active as a Wikimedian, he worked towards making information
> >> available about Palmyra.
> >>
> >> If there is anything that we can do, please let us do this.
> >> Thanks,
> >>  GerardM
> >>
> >> [1]
> >>
> >>
> http://www.amnesty.nl/nieuwsportaal/pers/syria-fears-life-free-expression-advocate
> >> [2]
> >>
> >>
> http://ultimategerardm.blogspot.nl/2015/10/freebassel-free-culture-advocate-who.html
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