2012/7/28 Anthony wikim...@inbox.org:
On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 1:28 PM, Platonides platoni...@gmail.com wrote:
On 27/07/12 09:46, Nikola Smolenski wrote:
An excellent list :) I'd like to add: you sneak in the stadium without
paying the ticket. IOC can do nothing.
Seriously, if IOC decides to
On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 8:15 AM, Nikola Smolenski smole...@eunet.rs wrote:
On 28/07/12 19:44, birgitte...@yahoo.com wrote:
2.2 By applying for, purchasing, holding or using a Ticket, a Ticket
Holder agrees that he or she shall comply with these Terms and Conditions.
On 07/27/12 7:15 AM, wiki-l...@phizz.demon.co.uk wrote:
wikim...@inbox.org wrote:
On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 3:35 AM, Ray Saintongesainto...@telus.net wrote:
I don't see that joint authorship enters into this at all. I think it's safe
to assume that the one holding the camera is the one making
On 27/07/12 09:46, Nikola Smolenski wrote:
An excellent list :) I'd like to add: you sneak in the stadium without
paying the ticket. IOC can do nothing.
Seriously, if IOC decides to go after someone, don't they first have to
prove that he bought the ticket? And how can they prove that?
What
On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 1:28 PM, Platonides platoni...@gmail.com wrote:
On 27/07/12 09:46, Nikola Smolenski wrote:
An excellent list :) I'd like to add: you sneak in the stadium without
paying the ticket. IOC can do nothing.
Seriously, if IOC decides to go after someone, don't they first have
On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 1:44 PM, birgitte...@yahoo.com wrote:
2.2 By applying for, purchasing, holding or using a Ticket, a Ticket Holder
agrees that he or she shall comply with these Terms and Conditions.
http://www.tickets.london2012.com/purchaseterms.html
Well, yeah, but legally that's
On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 4:41 AM, Ray Saintonge sainto...@telus.net wrote:
I suppose that, like any good Wikimedian, we like to balance ourselves on
the edge cases. We can imagine many. The underlying case would be IOC vs.
Uploader. These other points about joint authorship and photo editing
On 07/26/12 3:51 PM, Anthony wrote:
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 6:23 PM, Ray Saintongesainto...@telus.net wrote:
Copyrights wouldn't apply because you own the copyrights in the pictures you
take.
Maybe. You own the copyright fully if you are the sole contributor of
the creative input which went
On 27/07/12 03:47, birgitte...@yahoo.com wrote:
On Jul 26, 2012, at 4:23 AM, wiki-l...@phizz.demon.co.uk wrote:
There is a contractual arrangement between the IOC and the photographer as
specified in terms and conditions on the ticket. If some one makes photos
available commercially then they
On 07/26/12 6:47 PM, birgitte...@yahoo.com wrote:
On Jul 26, 2012, at 4:23 AM, wiki-l...@phizz.demon.co.uk wrote:
kikkocrist...@gmail.com wrote:
Sources for the restrictions:
* http://www.tickets.london2012.com/purchaseterms.html
* PDF: http://j.mp/london2012prohibited
I really can't
wikim...@inbox.org wrote:
On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 3:35 AM, Ray Saintonge sainto...@telus.net wrote:
I don't see that joint authorship enters into this at all. I think it's safe
to assume that the one holding the camera is the one making the creative
decisions about the photos.
Then
I'm about to video the flypast, outside on the road in my dressing gown.
Does that count as freedom of panorama? ;-)
Richard Symonds, Wikimedia UK
On Jul 27, 2012 3:48 PM, wiki-l...@phizz.demon.co.uk wrote:
wikim...@inbox.org wrote:
On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 3:35 AM, Ray Saintonge
Sounds like you're prepared for some flash photography. Ahem.
On Jul 27, 2012 8:08 PM, Richard Symonds richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk
wrote:
I'm about to video the flypast, outside on the road in my dressing gown.
Does that count as freedom of panorama? ;-)
Richard Symonds, Wikimedia UK
On
Even for the east end of London, I got some odd looks. Video was a but
rubbish, but I tried!
Richard Symonds, Wikimedia UK
On Jul 27, 2012 8:12 PM, Stevie Benton stevie.ben...@wikimedia.org.uk
wrote:
Sounds like you're prepared for some flash photography. Ahem.
On Jul 27, 2012 8:08 PM, Richard
On Jul 27, 2012, at 8:14 AM, Anthony wikim...@inbox.org wrote:
On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 3:35 AM, Ray Saintonge sainto...@telus.net wrote:
I don't see that joint authorship enters into this at all. I think it's safe
to assume that the one holding the camera is the one making the creative
On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 6:47 PM, birgitte...@yahoo.com wrote:
On Jul 27, 2012, at 8:14 AM, Anthony wikim...@inbox.org wrote:
My advice is that the law isn't that simple, and that blanket
statements of that type are quite often incorrect.
To the degree that we can advise people at all on
2012/7/24 Tomasz Ganicz polime...@gmail.com:
2012/7/24 Cristian Consonni kikkocrist...@gmail.com:
2012/7/24 Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il:
Hi,
The Olympic games are beginning soon. Apparently, ticket holders
cannot use photo equipment longer than 30cm and cannot use the photos
It's time to black out coverage of the olympics.
This would be a blackout that could actually make a difference.
On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 3:40 PM, Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.org wrote:
Would it make sense to start a more thorough long term lobby on this issue?
Considering that this will
Unfortunately people will still be bombarded with coverage of it from
everywhere else, so probably a futile gesture.
We may not be able to get photos of the glamorous sporting events to
illustrate our articles, but there are plenty of associated events
that ought to be documented which the IOC
Naive and over reactive. Do that all the time and it's pointless (loses
value). That was the consensus at the time of SOPA and I don't see
anything that's changed since. Blackouts are the rarest of rare protests,
certainly not for matters that don't threaten us. At worst inability to
freely photo
On Jul 26, 2012, at 4:23 AM, wiki-l...@phizz.demon.co.uk wrote:
kikkocrist...@gmail.com wrote:
Sources for the restrictions:
* http://www.tickets.london2012.com/purchaseterms.html
* PDF: http://j.mp/london2012prohibited
I really can't figure out the difference between your example
On Jul 26, 2012, at 5:51 PM, Anthony wikim...@inbox.org wrote:
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 6:23 PM, Ray Saintonge sainto...@telus.net wrote:
Copyrights wouldn't apply because you own the copyrights in the pictures you
take.
Maybe. You own the copyright fully if you are the sole contributor
The first version sent too soon and was almost unreadable, sorry if you
struggled through it. Here it is again with copy-editing.
On Jul 26, 2012, at 9:06 PM, birgitte...@yahoo.com wrote:
On Jul 26, 2012, at 5:51 PM, Anthony wikim...@inbox.org wrote:
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 6:23
And here is the correct second link:
http://williampatry.blogspot.com/2008/03/photographs-are-not-derivative-works.html
On Jul 26, 2012, at 9:13 PM, birgitte...@yahoo.com wrote:
The first version sent too soon and was almost unreadable, sorry if you
struggled through it. Here it is again
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 10:06 PM, birgitte...@yahoo.com wrote:
On Jul 26, 2012, at 5:51 PM, Anthony wikim...@inbox.org wrote:
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 6:23 PM, Ray Saintonge sainto...@telus.net wrote:
Copyrights wouldn't apply because you own the copyrights in the pictures you
take.
Maybe.
On 07/26/12 9:31 AM, Peter Coombe wrote:
Unfortunately people will still be bombarded with coverage of it from
everywhere else, so probably a futile gesture.
We may not be able to get photos of the glamorous sporting events to
illustrate our articles, but there are plenty of associated events
2012/7/25 Thomas Souza-Buckup thomassouzabuc...@gmail.com:
Lodewijk
I agree with you. It makes a lot of sense to start now a negotiation with
the IOC in order to prepare for the next Olympic Games taking place in
Brazil in 2016.
The winter games in Sochi 2014 are supposed to be quite
Wikimedia Ch gives usually accreditations and we did it in the past also
for sport's events.
Naturally we gives accreditation only to people who send as formal request
and are identified (no unknown people).
In general we contact the press office of the event and inform them that a
defined
May be we should take such anomalies to public forums!
Slash dot? Free knowledge forums? Press? Media?
Olympics is not just a money spinning sponsored affair. Information about
the happenings there is the right of every universal citizen!
The 'long' camera may have something to do with
This issue is not merely theoretical.
Many will recall the controversy surrounding the free-licensed photo of
Usain Bolt, on Commons, taken during the Beijing Olympics:
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2009-10-12/In_the_news
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On 24 July 2012 10:35, Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il wrote:
2012/7/24 ViswaPrabha (വിശ്വപ്രഭ) vp2...@gmail.com:
May be we should take such anomalies to public forums!
I'm not actually sure that it's an anomaly. As I said, I don't follow
sports and I only noticed such a thing
2012/7/24 Frederic Schutz sch...@mathgen.ch:
Has anyone from the Wikimedia community contacted the IOC on this matter?
If not, WM CH could give it a try (their headquarters are in Switzerland,
actually less than 2km away from my place). I'm not overly optimistic, but
it may be worth a try.
On 24/07/12 11:43, Tomasz Ganicz wrote:
Has anyone from the Wikimedia community contacted the IOC on this matter?
If not, WM CH could give it a try (their headquarters are in Switzerland,
actually less than 2km away from my place). I'm not overly optimistic, but
it may be worth a try.
On 24 July 2012 10:21, Frederic Schutz sch...@mathgen.ch wrote:
Has anyone from the Wikimedia community contacted the IOC on this matter?
If not, WM CH could give it a try (their headquarters are in Switzerland,
actually less than 2km away from my place). I'm not overly optimistic, but
it may
WMUK have asked, and we live in London; some of us next door to the
stadium. The answer is a resounding 'no' from all corners, even when we
speak to the government. We've got a volunteer with very good access to the
games, but even behind the scenes it's difficult to get photographs.
The IOC are
2012/7/24 Richard Symonds richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk:
WMUK have asked, and we live in London; some of us next door to the
stadium. The answer is a resounding 'no' from all corners, even when we
speak to the government. We've got a volunteer with very good access to the
games, but even
On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 11:54 AM, Andrew Gray andrew.g...@dunelm.org.ukwrote:
On 24 July 2012 10:21, Frederic Schutz sch...@mathgen.ch wrote:
Has anyone from the Wikimedia community contacted the IOC on this matter?
If not, WM CH could give it a try (their headquarters are in Switzerland,
2012/7/24 Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il:
Hi,
The Olympic games are beginning soon. Apparently, ticket holders
cannot use photo equipment longer than 30cm and cannot use the photos
and videos for commercial purposes without accreditation.
Practically everything that happens at
On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 2:21 AM, Frederic Schutz sch...@mathgen.ch wrote:
Has anyone from the Wikimedia community contacted the IOC on this matter?
This conversation came up about a month ago on the Communications Committee
list and Jimmy mentioned that he had made requests through his
2012/7/24 Cristian Consonni kikkocrist...@gmail.com:
2012/7/24 Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il:
Hi,
The Olympic games are beginning soon. Apparently, ticket holders
cannot use photo equipment longer than 30cm and cannot use the photos
and videos for commercial purposes without
Would it make sense to start a more thorough long term lobby on this issue?
Considering that this will be a returning issue every two years, I guess
that would be worth the trouble...
Lodewijk
2012/7/24 Tomasz Ganicz polime...@gmail.com
2012/7/24 Cristian Consonni kikkocrist...@gmail.com:
2012/7/24 Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.org:
Would it make sense to start a more thorough long term lobby on this issue?
Considering that this will be a returning issue every two years, I guess
that would be worth the trouble...
Generally, I think that it would be a good idea. I'm just not
~ Keegan
Sent mobile
On Jul 24, 2012 2:50 PM, Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il
wrote:
Most of all, I'm still curious about the reasons that the IOC (or
whoever is in charge) provided for the refusals.
In the immortal words of Steve Martin in The Jerk, It's a profit deal!
That
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