Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikidata] next Wikidata office hour

[Lydia Pintscher]

On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 7:54 PM, Tom Morris  wrote:
> Thanks!  Is there any more information on the issue with MusicBrainz?
>
> 17:26:27  sjoerddebruin: yes, we went for MusicBrainz first,
> but it turned out to be impractical. you basically have to run their
> software in order to use their dumps
>
>
> MusicBrainz was a major source of information for Freebase, so they appear
> to have been able to figure out how to parse the dumps (and they already
> have the MusicBrainz & Wikipedia IDs correlated).
>
> Is there more detail, perhaps in a bug somewhere?

The issue is that they do offer dumps but you need to set up your own
musicbrainz server to really use it. This was too time-intensive and
complicated for the students to make progress on during their project.
Because of this they decided to instead opt for another dataset
instead to get started. In the future Musicbrainz should still get
done. If anyone wants to work on adding more datasets to the tool
please let me know.


Cheers
Lydia

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikidata] next Wikidata office hour

[Gerard Meijssen]

Hoi,
Checking against other sources is indeed a different thing. However when
you are able to check against another source, what is the point of the
primary sources tool in the first place for that source?
Thanks,
  GerardM

On 24 September 2015 at 20:35, Lydia Pintscher  wrote:

> On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 8:31 PM, Tom Morris  wrote:
> >> This is to add MusicBrainz to the primary source tool, not anything
> else?
> >
> >
> > It's apparently worse than that (which I hadn't realized until I re-read
> the
> > transcript).  It sounds like it's just going to generate little warning
> > icons for "bad" facts and not lead to the recording of any new facts at
> all.
> >
> > 17:22:33  we'll also work on getting the extension deployed
> that
> > will help with checking against 3rd party databases
> > 17:23:33  the result of constraint checks and checks against
> 3rd
> > party databases will then be used to display little indicators next to a
> > statement in case it is problematic
> > 17:23:47  i hope this way more people become aware of issues
> and
> > can help fix them
> > 17:24:35  Do you have any names of databases that are
> > supported? :)
> > 17:24:59  sjoerddebruin: in the first version the german
> > national library. it can be extended later
> >
> >
> > I know Freebase is deemed to be nasty and unreliable, but is MusicBrainz
> > considered trustworthy enough to import directly or will its facts need
> to
> > be dripped through the primary source soda straw one at a time too?
>
> The primary sources tool and the extension that helps us check against
> other databases are two independent things.
> Imports from Musicbrainz have been happening since a very long time
> already.
>
>
> Cheers
> Lydia
>
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