Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Disclosure amendment to the Terms of Use

2014-06-17 Thread phoebe ayers
On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 6:16 PM, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote: On 16 June 2014 20:48, phoebe ayers phoebe.w...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 11:17 AM, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote: Not quite sure what you're shouting about, Gerard. The amendment clearly gives

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Disclosure amendment to the Terms of Use

2014-06-17 Thread Risker
On 17 June 2014 12:56, phoebe ayers phoebe.w...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 6:16 PM, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote: I'm so very disappointed in the Board and the WMF for this TOU amendment, which was obviously written to quell concerns about English Wikipedia, with

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Disclosure amendment to the Terms of Use

2014-06-17 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
phoebe ayers, 17/06/2014 18:56: Anyway, I'm not sure why you are assuming that the amendment will automatically be abhorrent to every community that's not English Wikipedia. And why do you think it will be useful? If it was needed, how comes only some 50 non-en.wiki editors came to support it

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Disclosure amendment to the Terms of Use

2014-06-17 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, I have read Stephen's mail. It refers to many other things that I did not read. When the policy was discussed I raised the notion that for Wikidata the need for such disclosure is different. Given that I did not get any response, I took it as if that was not interesting relevant and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Disclosure amendment to the Terms of Use

2014-06-17 Thread Jan-Bart de Vreede
Hi Nemo ( others) I know of at least one non english project that has implemented a much stronger stance against paid contributions Their are two possibilities when specific projects discuss if they need to have their own policy on this topic a) If all participants of the project agree on

[Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Disclosure amendment to the Terms of Use

2014-06-16 Thread Stephen LaPorte
Hi all, We would like to announce that the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees has approved an amendment to Section 4 of the Terms of Use to require disclosure of paid editing. This follows the extensive discussion of the amendment

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Disclosure amendment to the Terms of Use

2014-06-16 Thread Tomasz W . Kozlowski
Stephen LaPorte writes: We would like to announce that the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees has approved an amendment to Section 4 of the Terms of Use to require disclosure of paid editing. There is a proposal on Wikimedia Commons that aims to opt-out that project from the amendment,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Disclosure amendment to the Terms of Use

2014-06-16 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, WOW, CAN SOMEONE WHO HAS THE AUTHORITY TO DO SO CLARIFY IF THIS WILL GET A HEARING? Either it is something that should apply to all projects and consequently it is a board issue or it is en.wp only. When it is en.wp only, the policy is either not carefully thought through or it should not be

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Disclosure amendment to the Terms of Use

2014-06-16 Thread Tilman Bayer
Hi GerardM, have you read Stephen's email? On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 10:58 AM, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote: Hoi, WOW, CAN SOMEONE WHO HAS THE AUTHORITY TO DO SO CLARIFY IF THIS WILL GET A HEARING? Either it is something that should apply to all projects and consequently

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Disclosure amendment to the Terms of Use

2014-06-16 Thread Risker
Not quite sure what you're shouting about, Gerard. The amendment clearly gives individual projects the right to have an alternative to this particular section of the terms of use, and that alternative can be either more strict or less strict. Seems Commons is considering an alternative that is

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Disclosure amendment to the Terms of Use

2014-06-16 Thread phoebe ayers
On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 11:17 AM, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote: Not quite sure what you're shouting about, Gerard. The amendment clearly gives individual projects the right to have an alternative to this particular section of the terms of use, and that alternative can be either more

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Disclosure amendment to the Terms of Use

2014-06-16 Thread Risker
On 16 June 2014 20:48, phoebe ayers phoebe.w...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 11:17 AM, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote: Not quite sure what you're shouting about, Gerard. The amendment clearly gives individual projects the right to have an alternative to this particular

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Disclosure amendment to the Terms of Use

2014-06-16 Thread MZMcBride
Risker wrote: I'm so very disappointed in the Board and the WMF for this TOU amendment, which was obviously written to quell concerns about English Wikipedia, with extremely little consideration of any other project. Now projects *must* formally exempt practices that are perfectly acceptable to