Re: [Wikimedia-l] [feature suggestion] Be able to include/exclude certain page fragments based on the geographic area

2014-03-22 Thread David Goodman
It was intended not just to challenge the US government, but to be an example for elsewhere,and it has been that. On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 2:40 AM, Keegan Peterzell wrote: > On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 7:40 PM, Seb35 wrote: > > > Le lundi 10 mars 2014 21:03:20 (CET), Yuri a écrit : > > > > On 03/1

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [feature suggestion] Be able to include/exclude certain page fragments based on the geographic area

2014-03-13 Thread Keegan Peterzell
On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 7:40 PM, Seb35 wrote: > Le lundi 10 mars 2014 21:03:20 (CET), Yuri a écrit : > > On 03/10/2014 11:30, Seb35 wrote: >> >>> Another point of view is that the knowledge doesn't (shouldn't) depend >>> in any way of the local government -- possibly it can be viewed differentl

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [feature suggestion] Be able to include/exclude certain page fragments based on the geographic area

2014-03-13 Thread Seb35
Le lundi 10 mars 2014 21:03:20 (CET), Yuri a écrit : On 03/10/2014 11:30, Seb35 wrote: Another point of view is that the knowledge doesn’t (shouldn’t) depend in any way of the local government -- possibly it can be viewed differently from a culture to another but that’s a cultural question

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [feature suggestion] Be able to include/exclude certain page fragments based on the geographic area

2014-03-10 Thread Yuri
On 03/10/2014 11:30, Seb35 wrote: Another point of view is that the knowledge doesn’t (shouldn’t) depend in any way of the local government -- possibly it can be viewed differently from a culture to another but that’s a cultural question not related to censorship. Moreover it would be a censo

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [feature suggestion] Be able to include/exclude certain page fragments based on the geographic area

2014-03-10 Thread Seb35
Another point of view is that the knowledge doesn’t (shouldn’t) depend in any way of the local government -- possibly it can be viewed differently from a culture to another but that’s a cultural question not related to censorship. Moreover it would be a censorship practice close to the Mini

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [feature suggestion] Be able to include/exclude certain page fragments based on the geographic area

2014-03-04 Thread Todd Allen
Exactly this. If the government of any given country wants to redirect certain articles, or all of Wikipedia, to a page saying "This content blocked by the Ministry of Knowledge", people will know they're being censored. If instead they reach a "sanitized" version of the article reflecting the gov

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [feature suggestion] Be able to include/exclude certain page fragments based on the geographic area

2014-03-04 Thread Austin Hair
I think that if you stop to think about it another way, you'll find that this would do the opposite of what you intend, to wit: allowing "various courts" to impose editorial control. Imagine Circletine, once a popular childhood beverage but now the issue of some controversy regarding its tendency

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [feature suggestion] Be able to include/exclude certain page fragments based on the geographic area

2014-03-04 Thread Marc A. Pelletier
On 03/04/2014 10:50 PM, Yuri wrote: > But it got rejected, and I am not sure I am clear why. I haven't opined on the specific bug, but I would also have rejected it. The reason why is simple: it goes exactly opposite everything the projects stand for. Our mission isn't "collect all of the knowl

[Wikimedia-l] [feature suggestion] Be able to include/exclude certain page fragments based on the geographic area

2014-03-04 Thread Yuri
I submitted the proposal to be able to eliminate certain parts of the articles in certain countries, where the local governments find those parts illegal: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=62231 But it got rejected, and I am not sure I am clear why. The problem is that there are co