Re: [Wikimedia-l] About Wikipedia medical entries

2014-05-28 Thread Cristian Consonni
2014-05-28 7:42 GMT+02:00 Nurunnaby Chowdhury n...@nhasive.com: Thanks everyone. Last day when this news published i receive lots of phone call from our journalist friend. You know all journalist just check the news media. Not check details issue. This news found is way also on Italian media:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] About Wikipedia medical entries

2014-05-28 Thread Jane Darnell
What I think is funny about this whole article and this email thread is that the quality of Wikipedia is not brought into relation with anything else. For example, I know that one of the main causes of death in the Netherlands today has to do with improper dosages of medicine, caused both by

Re: [Wikimedia-l] About Wikipedia medical entries

2014-05-28 Thread Martijn Hoekstra
On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 8:18 PM, Jane Darnell jane...@gmail.com wrote: What I think is funny about this whole article and this email thread is that the quality of Wikipedia is not brought into relation with anything else. For example, I know that one of the main causes of death in the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] About Wikipedia medical entries

2014-05-28 Thread Yves Z
Let's not focus on what others are doing wrong, but improve on what we may be doing wrong - that's the only thing we have most influence on in changing. Are there spot checks by professionals in medicine, or ways to flag often-read pages for peer review? That seems like a way that experts

[Wikimedia-l] About Wikipedia medical entries

2014-05-27 Thread Nurunnaby Chowdhury
Hi, Today daily mail published a news about Wikipedia Medical related entries. Title of this news: *Do NOT try to diagnose yourself on Wikipedia! 90% of its medical entries are inaccurate, say experts* *! * Anyone clarify this issue please? Check this link for news:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] About Wikipedia medical entries

2014-05-27 Thread Stevie Benton
Hi Nurunnaby, A similar story has appeared in the Telegraph - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/10857468/Dont-diagnose-yourself-on-Wikipedia-doctors-warn.html- and the BBC - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-27586356 The BBC piece is the best of the three and WMUK has reached out to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] About Wikipedia medical entries

2014-05-27 Thread Marc A. Pelletier
On 05/27/2014 09:44 AM, Stevie Benton wrote: American Osteopathic Association I'm not an expert on the latest woo-woo, but isn't Osteopathy one of the numerous faith-based 'medecine'? -- Marc ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] About Wikipedia medical entries

2014-05-27 Thread Stevie Benton
I think one of our friends who is US based can more helpfully answer this, but I believe osteopathy in the US is somehow different from elsewhere. I couldn't tell you how, but I seem to remember this being the case. On 27 May 2014 15:01, Marc A. Pelletier m...@uberbox.org wrote: On 05/27/2014

Re: [Wikimedia-l] About Wikipedia medical entries

2014-05-27 Thread Martijn Hoekstra
On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 4:01 PM, Marc A. Pelletier m...@uberbox.org wrote: On 05/27/2014 09:44 AM, Stevie Benton wrote: American Osteopathic Association I'm not an expert on the latest woo-woo, but isn't Osteopathy one of the numerous faith-based 'medecine'? -- Marc That issue was

Re: [Wikimedia-l] About Wikipedia medical entries

2014-05-27 Thread Marc A. Pelletier
On 05/27/2014 10:18 AM, Martijn Hoekstra wrote: From what I remember from it is that what is called Osteopathy in the UK isn't the same thing that's called Osteopathy in the US Ah, that explains it. :-) Regardless, Don't diagnose yourself with Wikipedia seems to be infinitely good advice,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] About Wikipedia medical entries

2014-05-27 Thread Nathan
On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 10:18 AM, Martijn Hoekstra martijnhoeks...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 4:01 PM, Marc A. Pelletier m...@uberbox.org wrote: On 05/27/2014 09:44 AM, Stevie Benton wrote: American Osteopathic Association I'm not an expert on the latest woo-woo, but

Re: [Wikimedia-l] About Wikipedia medical entries

2014-05-27 Thread geni
On 27 May 2014 15:22, Marc A. Pelletier m...@uberbox.org wrote: Ah, that explains it. :-) Regardless, Don't diagnose yourself with Wikipedia seems to be infinitely good advice, regardless of any hyperbole about article accuracy! The problem is the number of doctors who use wikipedia. --

Re: [Wikimedia-l] About Wikipedia medical entries

2014-05-27 Thread Martijn Hoekstra
On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 4:27 PM, geni geni...@gmail.com wrote: On 27 May 2014 15:22, Marc A. Pelletier m...@uberbox.org wrote: Ah, that explains it. :-) Regardless, Don't diagnose yourself with Wikipedia seems to be infinitely good advice, regardless of any hyperbole about article

Re: [Wikimedia-l] About Wikipedia medical entries

2014-05-27 Thread Todd Allen
Actually, Don't diagnose yourself is just generally good advice. Even if the medical information you have is accurate, there might be other possible causes or factors that need to be considered. Internet information, Wikipedia or otherwise, might be a good place to get things to ask your doctor

Re: [Wikimedia-l] About Wikipedia medical entries

2014-05-27 Thread Thomas Morton
Osteopathy is one of those “difficult” ones, where it does have some real evidence to back it up - but in the UK certain practitioners make exceptional and (hokum) claims. The NHS recommends it for Lower Back Pain (http://www.nhs.uk/conditions/Osteopathy/Pages/Introduction.aspx, and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] About Wikipedia medical entries

2014-05-27 Thread Lane Rasberry
Hello, I am a participant in WikiProject Medicine on English Wikipedia and know about this case. I also have talked to the researcher who published this paper since its publication. Lots of people have lots of objections to Wikipedia. In my opinion, the study itself is correct for what it

Re: [Wikimedia-l] About Wikipedia medical entries

2014-05-27 Thread Jeevan Jose
Wikipedia discourages self diagnosis and treatment: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Medical_disclaimer And I think professionals are capable enough to verify the credibility of the referred sources instead of blindly reading the articles. Regards, Jee On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 8:31 PM,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] About Wikipedia medical entries

2014-05-27 Thread Nathan
FYI - Here is the previous thread on this list about this study / topic: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/wiki/foundation/460005?do=post_view_threaded ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] About Wikipedia medical entries

2014-05-27 Thread Jayanta Nath
Hi Hasive, I think we need to read again https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Medical_disclaimer Jayanta On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 8:47 PM, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote: FYI - Here is the previous thread on this list about this study / topic:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] About Wikipedia medical entries

2014-05-27 Thread Amy Vossbrinck
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osteopathic_medicine_in_the_United_States Osteopaths also have chiropractic training. Take care, Amy On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 7:01 AM, Marc A. Pelletier m...@uberbox.org wrote: On 05/27/2014 09:44 AM, Stevie Benton wrote: American Osteopathic Association I'm

Re: [Wikimedia-l] About Wikipedia medical entries

2014-05-27 Thread Nathan
That's a weird content architecture, right there. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osteopathic_medicine https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osteopathic_medicine_in_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osteopathic_medicine_in_Canada https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osteopathic_physician

Re: [Wikimedia-l] About Wikipedia medical entries

2014-05-27 Thread Nurunnaby Chowdhury
Thanks everyone. Last day when this news published i receive lots of phone call from our journalist friend. You know all journalist just check the news media. Not check details issue. So i start this thread. If this news published various language it may negative sign for Wikipedia. Because all