Re: [Wikimedia-l] AffCom - Call for candidates 2015 [UPDATE]

2014-09-05 Thread Gregory Varnum
Thank you everyone for your feedback and ideas. They're already being
discussed internally by AffCom and may be reflected in our next call for
candidates. There will not be any changes to the process for this call.

Some additional information folks may find helpful...

This call will add at least four people to fill some openings on the
committee created by Cynthia's passing earlier this year, to replace a
couple members transitioning into non-voting advisor roles (out of personal
necessity), and expansion by one seat (to help with our growing workload
and respond to concerns of response time).

This does not replace our usual annual call for members, which will be
coming later this year. That call will fill vacancies left by members whose
terms are expiring (or possibly re-elect those members) and another
possible expansion of the committee, that call is also anticipated to fill
at least four seats on the committee.

Before each annual call for members, we do a review of the process, and
sometimes make slight tweaks. Prior to this email, we had committed to
reviewing the process with our new, recently appointed, WMF board liaisons.
This feedback is helpful and will be taken into consideration. For a
variety of reasons, we decided not to delay this call for candidates any
further (and risk having to delay or merge it with the next call) and
instead use the process previously established.

As to the specific suggestions, I have heard compelling arguments for our
existing approach, and for changes. I have not personally come to any final
conclusions on what changes, if any, should be made, and I suspect the same
is true for the rest of AffCom. In part, we wanted to fill the vacancies to
help provide additional input on any changes to this process we may make.
Keep in mind, we are also engaging in a much larger discussion internally
and with affiliates, the WMF Board, and WMF staff about AffCom's
activities, scope, processes, etc. This is done annually (and currently
ongoing), and has resulted in some already visible changes this year (such
as the liaisons, introduction of new resources for affiliates, etc.) with
more to come, and may result in changes to things like the AffCom charter,
which requires a WMF Board vote. I am not yet sure if that will happen, but
I want to give you some sense of the overall scope of our current
conversation and why this specific process was not changed this time around.

I generally try to avoid comparisons between the WMF committees as they are
each rather unique in purpose and composition needs. Speaking specifically
to AffCom, I can say that we look a great deal at the combined skills
voting members will bring to the committee, which sometimes means qualified
candidates are passed for a year to prevent too much overlap of any one
existing skill area (such as legal or nonprofit capacity building) or
consideration such as diversity or language. There have been concerns that
a public process would discourage people from subjecting themselves to the
process more than once, some candidates also fear retaliation given the
complex politics within the affiliates world, and the current process is
believed to have helped us with encouraging candidates to apply who can
help us fill our diversity or skill gaps. I offer that not as a defense,
but as some insight into how the process got to this point.

We recently finished the conversion of the Wikimedia user group application
process from email based to an on-wiki based process and a faster approval
process based on feedback we received (details are on-wiki and coming
on-listserv soon). So that is certainly an option we are considering. Our
last request for an additional committee mailing list took several weeks to
process, and we try not to burden operations with urgent requests. That
said, frankly, we have leaned towards convenience and the idea of moving it
to a WMF hosted address simply has not come up recently and we will seek
input from WMF operations on their preferences and ideas. I am personally
intrigued by the suggestion of OTRS usage, but for for broader applications
as well.

From just a few years ago as ChapCom to today as AffCom, this committee has
consistently changed and evolved based on feedback and movement needs. I
appreciate not always to some people's liking, but let's face it, it would
be impossible for us to accommodate every idea and request, if for no other
reason than we often receive conflicting ideas and requests with very
compelling arguments behind them. So it is absolutely a possibility that we
will find ways to address existing concerns and adopt a different approach.
Keep in mind the committee is made up of volunteers that change fairly
regularly (at least four new volunteers are about to join), so I think it
is unfair to make claims or accusations about our possible actions based on
personal biases toward all things related to WMF or resentments about one
specific action (out of dozens each year) or 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] AffCom - Call for candidates 2015 [UPDATE]

2014-09-05 Thread Pine W
Hi Varnet,

I have emailed Affcom or individual members on more than one occasion for
an update about the Cascadia Wikimedians user group application. We
finished our response to Affcom's last question on August 7, which was
almost a month ago. We have projects that we would like to start that are
waiting on Affcom's approval. Is the delay related to the call for new
members and the change to an on-wiki process for user group applications?

Thanks,

Pine


On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 11:06 PM, Gregory Varnum gregory.var...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Thank you everyone for your feedback and ideas. They're already being
 discussed internally by AffCom and may be reflected in our next call for
 candidates. There will not be any changes to the process for this call.

 Some additional information folks may find helpful...

 This call will add at least four people to fill some openings on the
 committee created by Cynthia's passing earlier this year, to replace a
 couple members transitioning into non-voting advisor roles (out of personal
 necessity), and expansion by one seat (to help with our growing workload
 and respond to concerns of response time).

 This does not replace our usual annual call for members, which will be
 coming later this year. That call will fill vacancies left by members whose
 terms are expiring (or possibly re-elect those members) and another
 possible expansion of the committee, that call is also anticipated to fill
 at least four seats on the committee.

 Before each annual call for members, we do a review of the process, and
 sometimes make slight tweaks. Prior to this email, we had committed to
 reviewing the process with our new, recently appointed, WMF board liaisons.
 This feedback is helpful and will be taken into consideration. For a
 variety of reasons, we decided not to delay this call for candidates any
 further (and risk having to delay or merge it with the next call) and
 instead use the process previously established.

 As to the specific suggestions, I have heard compelling arguments for our
 existing approach, and for changes. I have not personally come to any final
 conclusions on what changes, if any, should be made, and I suspect the same
 is true for the rest of AffCom. In part, we wanted to fill the vacancies to
 help provide additional input on any changes to this process we may make.
 Keep in mind, we are also engaging in a much larger discussion internally
 and with affiliates, the WMF Board, and WMF staff about AffCom's
 activities, scope, processes, etc. This is done annually (and currently
 ongoing), and has resulted in some already visible changes this year (such
 as the liaisons, introduction of new resources for affiliates, etc.) with
 more to come, and may result in changes to things like the AffCom charter,
 which requires a WMF Board vote. I am not yet sure if that will happen, but
 I want to give you some sense of the overall scope of our current
 conversation and why this specific process was not changed this time
 around.

 I generally try to avoid comparisons between the WMF committees as they are
 each rather unique in purpose and composition needs. Speaking specifically
 to AffCom, I can say that we look a great deal at the combined skills
 voting members will bring to the committee, which sometimes means qualified
 candidates are passed for a year to prevent too much overlap of any one
 existing skill area (such as legal or nonprofit capacity building) or
 consideration such as diversity or language. There have been concerns that
 a public process would discourage people from subjecting themselves to the
 process more than once, some candidates also fear retaliation given the
 complex politics within the affiliates world, and the current process is
 believed to have helped us with encouraging candidates to apply who can
 help us fill our diversity or skill gaps. I offer that not as a defense,
 but as some insight into how the process got to this point.

 We recently finished the conversion of the Wikimedia user group application
 process from email based to an on-wiki based process and a faster approval
 process based on feedback we received (details are on-wiki and coming
 on-listserv soon). So that is certainly an option we are considering. Our
 last request for an additional committee mailing list took several weeks to
 process, and we try not to burden operations with urgent requests. That
 said, frankly, we have leaned towards convenience and the idea of moving it
 to a WMF hosted address simply has not come up recently and we will seek
 input from WMF operations on their preferences and ideas. I am personally
 intrigued by the suggestion of OTRS usage, but for for broader applications
 as well.

 From just a few years ago as ChapCom to today as AffCom, this committee has
 consistently changed and evolved based on feedback and movement needs. I
 appreciate not always to some people's liking, but let's face it, it would
 be impossible for us to 

[Wikimedia-l] AffCom - Call for candidates 2015 [UPDATE]

2014-09-04 Thread Carlos M. Colina
Dear all,
 
Please note that, due a technical issue, direct your emails to 
salvador1...@gmail.com instead. 

Kindly apologize for the inconvenience. 

Regards,  
Carlos


Sent from Samsung Mobile

 Original message 
From: Carlos M. Colina ma...@wikimedia.org.ve 
Date: 03/09/2014  19:58  (GMT+02:00) 
To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org,Wikimedia Chapters general discussions 
chapt...@wikimedia.ch 
Subject: [Wikimedia-l] AffCom - Call for candidates 2015 
 
(in the case you received it already, sorry for re-sending it, my  Thunderbird 
crashed just as I clicked the send button :-( )

Dear all, The Affiliations Committee [1], the committee that is responsible for 
guiding volunteers in establishing Chapters, User Groups 
and Thematic Organizations and approving them when they are ready is looking 
for new members.

The main focus of the AffCom is to guide groups of volunteers in forming 
affiliates. We make sure that the groups are large enough to be viable (and 
advise them on how to get bigger), review bylaws for compliance 
with the requirements and best practices, and advise the Board of the Wikimedia 
Foundation on issues connected to Chapters, Thematic Organizations and User 
Groups.

This requires communication with volunteers all over the World, negotiating 
skills and cultural sensitivity and the ability to understand legal texts. We 
try to get a healthy mix of different skill sets in our members.

The key skills/experience that we are looking for in candidate members, are 
typically the following:

  * Excitement by the challenge of helping to empower groups of
    volunteers worldwide
  * Willingness to process applications through a set, perhaps
    bureaucratic process
  * Readiness to participate in (movement roles) political discussions
    on the role and future of affiliates, models of affiliations, and
    similar questions
  * 5 hours per week availability [2], and the time to participate in a
    monthly ~2 hour voice/video meeting
  * International orientation
  * Very good communication skills in English
  * Ability to work and communicate with other languages and cultures
  * Strong understanding of the structure and work of affiliates and the
    WMF
  * Knowledge of different legal systems; experience in community
    building and organising is a plus
  * Effective communication skills in other languages are a major plus
  * Experience with or in an active affiliate is a major plus
  * Willingness to use full (real) name in committee activities
    (including reaching out to potential affiliates) when appropriate

In 2012, new types of affiliations were introduced, and the role of the 
Committee has increased in guiding through volunteers towards 
affiliation models that empower them to further our mission, and making 
sure these models meet both the needs of the volunteers and the 
movement. We are looking for new people to help, who are not afraid of 
the workload and are motivated by helping other volunteers to get 
organized and form communities that further our mission around the world.

Members are usually selected every twelve months for staggered two-year 
terms. The applications will be voted on by the current members not 
seeking re-election, taking into account comments put forward by the 
committee's members, advisers, WMF staff and board liaisons based on the 
above membership criteria. A final decision will be made by the end of 
the year, with new members expected to join on or around 1 January 2015.

If you are interested, You can send your applications with your full 
name, contact data (e-mail address, wiki username), relevant experience 
and motivation letter to our treasurer Salvador Alcántar at salvador AT 
gmail.com by 30 September 2014. You will get a confirmation that your 
application came through.

If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to email me and/or the 
committee as a whole. We are happy to chat or have a phone call with 
anyone about our work, if this helps them decide to apply. Please 
distribute this call among your networks, and do apply if you are 
interested.

Best regards,
Carlos Colina
Chair, Affiliations Committee

[1]: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee (please 
follow the links and familiarize yourself with our work)
[2]: Our member standards of participation are at: 
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee/Resolutions/Standard_of_participation_%E2%80%93_September_2012

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junain ekerolaa alümüin supüshuwayale etijaanaka. Ayatashi waya junain.
Carlos M. Colina
Vicepresidente, A.C. Wikimedia Venezuela | RIF J-40129321-2 | 
www.wikimedia.org.ve http://wikimedia.org.ve
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Phone: +972-52-4869915
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] AffCom - Call for candidates 2015 [UPDATE]

2014-09-04 Thread Risker
A gmail address?

I am sure if you ask nicely the committee can be granted a wikimedia.org
email address through Mailman that will allow more than one person to
handle applications. It could probably be done pretty quickly.

Risker/Anne


On 4 September 2014 14:35, Carlos M. Colina ma...@wikimedia.org.ve wrote:

 Dear all,

 Please note that, due a technical issue, direct your emails to
 salvador1...@gmail.com instead.

 Kindly apologize for the inconvenience.

 Regards,
 Carlos


 Sent from Samsung Mobile

  Original message 
 From: Carlos M. Colina ma...@wikimedia.org.ve
 Date: 03/09/2014  19:58  (GMT+02:00)
 To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org,Wikimedia Chapters general
 discussions chapt...@wikimedia.ch
 Subject: [Wikimedia-l] AffCom - Call for candidates 2015

 (in the case you received it already, sorry for re-sending it, my
  Thunderbird crashed just as I clicked the send button :-( )

 Dear all, The Affiliations Committee [1], the committee that is
 responsible for guiding volunteers in establishing Chapters, User Groups
 and Thematic Organizations and approving them when they are ready is
 looking for new members.

 The main focus of the AffCom is to guide groups of volunteers in forming
 affiliates. We make sure that the groups are large enough to be viable (and
 advise them on how to get bigger), review bylaws for compliance
 with the requirements and best practices, and advise the Board of the
 Wikimedia Foundation on issues connected to Chapters, Thematic
 Organizations and User Groups.

 This requires communication with volunteers all over the World,
 negotiating skills and cultural sensitivity and the ability to understand
 legal texts. We try to get a healthy mix of different skill sets in our
 members.

 The key skills/experience that we are looking for in candidate members,
 are typically the following:

   * Excitement by the challenge of helping to empower groups of
 volunteers worldwide
   * Willingness to process applications through a set, perhaps
 bureaucratic process
   * Readiness to participate in (movement roles) political discussions
 on the role and future of affiliates, models of affiliations, and
 similar questions
   * 5 hours per week availability [2], and the time to participate in a
 monthly ~2 hour voice/video meeting
   * International orientation
   * Very good communication skills in English
   * Ability to work and communicate with other languages and cultures
   * Strong understanding of the structure and work of affiliates and the
 WMF
   * Knowledge of different legal systems; experience in community
 building and organising is a plus
   * Effective communication skills in other languages are a major plus
   * Experience with or in an active affiliate is a major plus
   * Willingness to use full (real) name in committee activities
 (including reaching out to potential affiliates) when appropriate

 In 2012, new types of affiliations were introduced, and the role of the
 Committee has increased in guiding through volunteers towards
 affiliation models that empower them to further our mission, and making
 sure these models meet both the needs of the volunteers and the
 movement. We are looking for new people to help, who are not afraid of
 the workload and are motivated by helping other volunteers to get
 organized and form communities that further our mission around the world.

 Members are usually selected every twelve months for staggered two-year
 terms. The applications will be voted on by the current members not
 seeking re-election, taking into account comments put forward by the
 committee's members, advisers, WMF staff and board liaisons based on the
 above membership criteria. A final decision will be made by the end of
 the year, with new members expected to join on or around 1 January 2015.

 If you are interested, You can send your applications with your full
 name, contact data (e-mail address, wiki username), relevant experience
 and motivation letter to our treasurer Salvador Alcántar at salvador AT
 gmail.com by 30 September 2014. You will get a confirmation that your
 application came through.

 If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to email me and/or the
 committee as a whole. We are happy to chat or have a phone call with
 anyone about our work, if this helps them decide to apply. Please
 distribute this call among your networks, and do apply if you are
 interested.

 Best regards,
 Carlos Colina
 Chair, Affiliations Committee

 [1]: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee (please
 follow the links and familiarize yourself with our work)
 [2]: Our member standards of participation are at:

 http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee/Resolutions/Standard_of_participation_%E2%80%93_September_2012

 --
 *Jülüjain wane mmakat* ein kapülain tü alijunakalirua jee wayuukanairua
 junain ekerolaa alümüin supüshuwayale etijaanaka. Ayatashi waya junain.
 Carlos M. Colina
 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] AffCom - Call for candidates 2015 [UPDATE]

2014-09-04 Thread Bence Damokos
Thank you for the suggestion, Anne!

As some background, the reason the private e-mail address is used instead
of the AffCom mailing list is that  it allows the incoming applications to
be looked at all at the same time - thus not giving anyone an advantage or
disadvantage based on the time they apply  especially if there are any
outgoing AffCom members who are reapplying for another term (which may not
be relevant this time around, I am not sure, but we tend to rely on
existing processes and improve on them iteratively where we can based on
suggestions like yours).

Having a @wikimedia.org address would be cool, but they are not allocated
to individual volunteers - we did ask a while ago. AffCom itself does have
a mailing list on a wikimedia server, which we are not using for this
purpose.Setting up a separate mailing list for the purpose might be
something to consider next year.

Hope this helps.

Best regards,
Bence
(A member of AffCom, with some experience on how this process runs, but
this is my personal view)


On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 8:50 PM, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote:

 A gmail address?

 I am sure if you ask nicely the committee can be granted a wikimedia.org
 email address through Mailman that will allow more than one person to
 handle applications. It could probably be done pretty quickly.

 Risker/Anne


 On 4 September 2014 14:35, Carlos M. Colina ma...@wikimedia.org.ve
 wrote:

  Dear all,
 
  Please note that, due a technical issue, direct your emails to
  salvador1...@gmail.com instead.
 
  Kindly apologize for the inconvenience.
 
  Regards,
  Carlos
 
 
  Sent from Samsung Mobile
 
   Original message 
  From: Carlos M. Colina ma...@wikimedia.org.ve
  Date: 03/09/2014  19:58  (GMT+02:00)
  To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org,Wikimedia Chapters general
  discussions chapt...@wikimedia.ch
  Subject: [Wikimedia-l] AffCom - Call for candidates 2015
 
  (in the case you received it already, sorry for re-sending it, my
   Thunderbird crashed just as I clicked the send button :-( )
 
  Dear all, The Affiliations Committee [1], the committee that is
  responsible for guiding volunteers in establishing Chapters, User Groups
  and Thematic Organizations and approving them when they are ready is
  looking for new members.
 
  The main focus of the AffCom is to guide groups of volunteers in forming
  affiliates. We make sure that the groups are large enough to be viable
 (and
  advise them on how to get bigger), review bylaws for compliance
  with the requirements and best practices, and advise the Board of the
  Wikimedia Foundation on issues connected to Chapters, Thematic
  Organizations and User Groups.
 
  This requires communication with volunteers all over the World,
  negotiating skills and cultural sensitivity and the ability to understand
  legal texts. We try to get a healthy mix of different skill sets in our
  members.
 
  The key skills/experience that we are looking for in candidate members,
  are typically the following:
 
* Excitement by the challenge of helping to empower groups of
  volunteers worldwide
* Willingness to process applications through a set, perhaps
  bureaucratic process
* Readiness to participate in (movement roles) political discussions
  on the role and future of affiliates, models of affiliations, and
  similar questions
* 5 hours per week availability [2], and the time to participate in a
  monthly ~2 hour voice/video meeting
* International orientation
* Very good communication skills in English
* Ability to work and communicate with other languages and cultures
* Strong understanding of the structure and work of affiliates and the
  WMF
* Knowledge of different legal systems; experience in community
  building and organising is a plus
* Effective communication skills in other languages are a major plus
* Experience with or in an active affiliate is a major plus
* Willingness to use full (real) name in committee activities
  (including reaching out to potential affiliates) when appropriate
 
  In 2012, new types of affiliations were introduced, and the role of the
  Committee has increased in guiding through volunteers towards
  affiliation models that empower them to further our mission, and making
  sure these models meet both the needs of the volunteers and the
  movement. We are looking for new people to help, who are not afraid of
  the workload and are motivated by helping other volunteers to get
  organized and form communities that further our mission around the world.
 
  Members are usually selected every twelve months for staggered two-year
  terms. The applications will be voted on by the current members not
  seeking re-election, taking into account comments put forward by the
  committee's members, advisers, WMF staff and board liaisons based on the
  above membership criteria. A final decision will be made by the end of
  the year, with new 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] AffCom - Call for candidates 2015 [UPDATE]

2014-09-04 Thread Risker
Committees can have more than one mailing list, Bence.

I suggest that Affcom rethink its approach: there's no good reason to
assume that the order of candidacy has anything to do with selection,
particularly if it goes to a second list, and your nominating
subcommittee all has access.  It is always a bad idea for only one person
to manage anything that results in formal appointments.  Accountability is
important here.  I don't think it will harm your process whatsoever to get
a mailing list set up by the weekend, since self-nominations do not close
until September 30. Indeed, I'm not entirely clear why this isn't happening
onwiki, but I suppose there may be a reason for that which doesn't come
through in the original email.

Risker/Anne




On 4 September 2014 15:34, Bence Damokos bdamo...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thank you for the suggestion, Anne!

 As some background, the reason the private e-mail address is used instead
 of the AffCom mailing list is that  it allows the incoming applications to
 be looked at all at the same time - thus not giving anyone an advantage or
 disadvantage based on the time they apply  especially if there are any
 outgoing AffCom members who are reapplying for another term (which may not
 be relevant this time around, I am not sure, but we tend to rely on
 existing processes and improve on them iteratively where we can based on
 suggestions like yours).

 Having a @wikimedia.org address would be cool, but they are not allocated
 to individual volunteers - we did ask a while ago. AffCom itself does have
 a mailing list on a wikimedia server, which we are not using for this
 purpose.Setting up a separate mailing list for the purpose might be
 something to consider next year.

 Hope this helps.

 Best regards,
 Bence
 (A member of AffCom, with some experience on how this process runs, but
 this is my personal view)


 On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 8:50 PM, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote:

  A gmail address?
 
  I am sure if you ask nicely the committee can be granted a wikimedia.org
  email address through Mailman that will allow more than one person to
  handle applications. It could probably be done pretty quickly.
 
  Risker/Anne
 
 
  On 4 September 2014 14:35, Carlos M. Colina ma...@wikimedia.org.ve
  wrote:
 
   Dear all,
  
   Please note that, due a technical issue, direct your emails to
   salvador1...@gmail.com instead.
  
   Kindly apologize for the inconvenience.
  
   Regards,
   Carlos
  
  
   Sent from Samsung Mobile
  
    Original message 
   From: Carlos M. Colina ma...@wikimedia.org.ve
   Date: 03/09/2014  19:58  (GMT+02:00)
   To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org,Wikimedia Chapters general
   discussions chapt...@wikimedia.ch
   Subject: [Wikimedia-l] AffCom - Call for candidates 2015
  
   (in the case you received it already, sorry for re-sending it, my
Thunderbird crashed just as I clicked the send button :-( )
  
   Dear all, The Affiliations Committee [1], the committee that is
   responsible for guiding volunteers in establishing Chapters, User
 Groups
   and Thematic Organizations and approving them when they are ready is
   looking for new members.
  
   The main focus of the AffCom is to guide groups of volunteers in
 forming
   affiliates. We make sure that the groups are large enough to be viable
  (and
   advise them on how to get bigger), review bylaws for compliance
   with the requirements and best practices, and advise the Board of the
   Wikimedia Foundation on issues connected to Chapters, Thematic
   Organizations and User Groups.
  
   This requires communication with volunteers all over the World,
   negotiating skills and cultural sensitivity and the ability to
 understand
   legal texts. We try to get a healthy mix of different skill sets in our
   members.
  
   The key skills/experience that we are looking for in candidate members,
   are typically the following:
  
 * Excitement by the challenge of helping to empower groups of
   volunteers worldwide
 * Willingness to process applications through a set, perhaps
   bureaucratic process
 * Readiness to participate in (movement roles) political discussions
   on the role and future of affiliates, models of affiliations, and
   similar questions
 * 5 hours per week availability [2], and the time to participate in a
   monthly ~2 hour voice/video meeting
 * International orientation
 * Very good communication skills in English
 * Ability to work and communicate with other languages and cultures
 * Strong understanding of the structure and work of affiliates and
 the
   WMF
 * Knowledge of different legal systems; experience in community
   building and organising is a plus
 * Effective communication skills in other languages are a major plus
 * Experience with or in an active affiliate is a major plus
 * Willingness to use full (real) name in committee activities
   (including reaching out to 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] AffCom - Call for candidates 2015 [UPDATE]

2014-09-04 Thread Ad Huikeshoven
One option to consider is establishing an OTRS queue for AffCom.

How many vacancies are there to be filled?

Greetings,

Ad


2014-09-04 21:45 GMT+02:00 Risker risker...@gmail.com:

 Committees can have more than one mailing list, Bence.

 I suggest that Affcom rethink its approach: there's no good reason to
 assume that the order of candidacy has anything to do with selection,
 particularly if it goes to a second list, and your nominating
 subcommittee all has access.  It is always a bad idea for only one person
 to manage anything that results in formal appointments.  Accountability is
 important here.  I don't think it will harm your process whatsoever to get
 a mailing list set up by the weekend, since self-nominations do not close
 until September 30. Indeed, I'm not entirely clear why this isn't happening
 onwiki, but I suppose there may be a reason for that which doesn't come
 through in the original email.

 Risker/Anne




 On 4 September 2014 15:34, Bence Damokos bdamo...@gmail.com wrote:

  Thank you for the suggestion, Anne!
 
  As some background, the reason the private e-mail address is used instead
  of the AffCom mailing list is that  it allows the incoming applications
 to
  be looked at all at the same time - thus not giving anyone an advantage
 or
  disadvantage based on the time they apply  especially if there are any
  outgoing AffCom members who are reapplying for another term (which may
 not
  be relevant this time around, I am not sure, but we tend to rely on
  existing processes and improve on them iteratively where we can based on
  suggestions like yours).
 
  Having a @wikimedia.org address would be cool, but they are not
 allocated
  to individual volunteers - we did ask a while ago. AffCom itself does
 have
  a mailing list on a wikimedia server, which we are not using for this
  purpose.Setting up a separate mailing list for the purpose might be
  something to consider next year.
 
  Hope this helps.
 
  Best regards,
  Bence
  (A member of AffCom, with some experience on how this process runs, but
  this is my personal view)
 
 
  On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 8:50 PM, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   A gmail address?
  
   I am sure if you ask nicely the committee can be granted a
 wikimedia.org
   email address through Mailman that will allow more than one person to
   handle applications. It could probably be done pretty quickly.
  
   Risker/Anne
  
  
   On 4 September 2014 14:35, Carlos M. Colina ma...@wikimedia.org.ve
   wrote:
  
Dear all,
   
Please note that, due a technical issue, direct your emails to
salvador1...@gmail.com instead.
   
Kindly apologize for the inconvenience.
   
Regards,
Carlos
   
   
Sent from Samsung Mobile
   
 Original message 
From: Carlos M. Colina ma...@wikimedia.org.ve
Date: 03/09/2014  19:58  (GMT+02:00)
To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org,Wikimedia Chapters general
discussions chapt...@wikimedia.ch
Subject: [Wikimedia-l] AffCom - Call for candidates 2015
   
(in the case you received it already, sorry for re-sending it, my
 Thunderbird crashed just as I clicked the send button :-( )
   
Dear all, The Affiliations Committee [1], the committee that is
responsible for guiding volunteers in establishing Chapters, User
  Groups
and Thematic Organizations and approving them when they are ready is
looking for new members.
   
The main focus of the AffCom is to guide groups of volunteers in
  forming
affiliates. We make sure that the groups are large enough to be
 viable
   (and
advise them on how to get bigger), review bylaws for compliance
with the requirements and best practices, and advise the Board of the
Wikimedia Foundation on issues connected to Chapters, Thematic
Organizations and User Groups.
   
This requires communication with volunteers all over the World,
negotiating skills and cultural sensitivity and the ability to
  understand
legal texts. We try to get a healthy mix of different skill sets in
 our
members.
   
The key skills/experience that we are looking for in candidate
 members,
are typically the following:
   
  * Excitement by the challenge of helping to empower groups of
volunteers worldwide
  * Willingness to process applications through a set, perhaps
bureaucratic process
  * Readiness to participate in (movement roles) political
 discussions
on the role and future of affiliates, models of affiliations, and
similar questions
  * 5 hours per week availability [2], and the time to participate
 in a
monthly ~2 hour voice/video meeting
  * International orientation
  * Very good communication skills in English
  * Ability to work and communicate with other languages and cultures
  * Strong understanding of the structure and work of affiliates and
  the
WMF
  * Knowledge of different legal systems; 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] AffCom - Call for candidates 2015 [UPDATE]

2014-09-04 Thread Michael Peel
Another option would be an open process on-wiki, along the same lines as the 
FDC board-selected seat nominations. Is there a need to keep applications 
confidential here?

Thanks,
Mike

On 4 Sep 2014, at 20:51, Ad Huikeshoven a...@wikimedia.nl wrote:

 One option to consider is establishing an OTRS queue for AffCom.
 
 How many vacancies are there to be filled?
 
 Greetings,
 
 Ad
 
 
 2014-09-04 21:45 GMT+02:00 Risker risker...@gmail.com:
 
 Committees can have more than one mailing list, Bence.
 
 I suggest that Affcom rethink its approach: there's no good reason to
 assume that the order of candidacy has anything to do with selection,
 particularly if it goes to a second list, and your nominating
 subcommittee all has access.  It is always a bad idea for only one person
 to manage anything that results in formal appointments.  Accountability is
 important here.  I don't think it will harm your process whatsoever to get
 a mailing list set up by the weekend, since self-nominations do not close
 until September 30. Indeed, I'm not entirely clear why this isn't happening
 onwiki, but I suppose there may be a reason for that which doesn't come
 through in the original email.
 
 Risker/Anne
 
 
 
 
 On 4 September 2014 15:34, Bence Damokos bdamo...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Thank you for the suggestion, Anne!
 
 As some background, the reason the private e-mail address is used instead
 of the AffCom mailing list is that  it allows the incoming applications
 to
 be looked at all at the same time - thus not giving anyone an advantage
 or
 disadvantage based on the time they apply  especially if there are any
 outgoing AffCom members who are reapplying for another term (which may
 not
 be relevant this time around, I am not sure, but we tend to rely on
 existing processes and improve on them iteratively where we can based on
 suggestions like yours).
 
 Having a @wikimedia.org address would be cool, but they are not
 allocated
 to individual volunteers - we did ask a while ago. AffCom itself does
 have
 a mailing list on a wikimedia server, which we are not using for this
 purpose.Setting up a separate mailing list for the purpose might be
 something to consider next year.
 
 Hope this helps.
 
 Best regards,
 Bence
 (A member of AffCom, with some experience on how this process runs, but
 this is my personal view)
 
 
 On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 8:50 PM, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 A gmail address?
 
 I am sure if you ask nicely the committee can be granted a
 wikimedia.org
 email address through Mailman that will allow more than one person to
 handle applications. It could probably be done pretty quickly.
 
 Risker/Anne
 
 
 On 4 September 2014 14:35, Carlos M. Colina ma...@wikimedia.org.ve
 wrote:
 
 Dear all,
 
 Please note that, due a technical issue, direct your emails to
 salvador1...@gmail.com instead.
 
 Kindly apologize for the inconvenience.
 
 Regards,
 Carlos
 
 
 Sent from Samsung Mobile
 
  Original message 
 From: Carlos M. Colina ma...@wikimedia.org.ve
 Date: 03/09/2014  19:58  (GMT+02:00)
 To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org,Wikimedia Chapters general
 discussions chapt...@wikimedia.ch
 Subject: [Wikimedia-l] AffCom - Call for candidates 2015
 
 (in the case you received it already, sorry for re-sending it, my
 Thunderbird crashed just as I clicked the send button :-( )
 
 Dear all, The Affiliations Committee [1], the committee that is
 responsible for guiding volunteers in establishing Chapters, User
 Groups
 and Thematic Organizations and approving them when they are ready is
 looking for new members.
 
 The main focus of the AffCom is to guide groups of volunteers in
 forming
 affiliates. We make sure that the groups are large enough to be
 viable
 (and
 advise them on how to get bigger), review bylaws for compliance
 with the requirements and best practices, and advise the Board of the
 Wikimedia Foundation on issues connected to Chapters, Thematic
 Organizations and User Groups.
 
 This requires communication with volunteers all over the World,
 negotiating skills and cultural sensitivity and the ability to
 understand
 legal texts. We try to get a healthy mix of different skill sets in
 our
 members.
 
 The key skills/experience that we are looking for in candidate
 members,
 are typically the following:
 
  * Excitement by the challenge of helping to empower groups of
volunteers worldwide
  * Willingness to process applications through a set, perhaps
bureaucratic process
  * Readiness to participate in (movement roles) political
 discussions
on the role and future of affiliates, models of affiliations, and
similar questions
  * 5 hours per week availability [2], and the time to participate
 in a
monthly ~2 hour voice/video meeting
  * International orientation
  * Very good communication skills in English
  * Ability to work and communicate with other languages and cultures
  * Strong understanding of the structure and work of affiliates and
 the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] AffCom - Call for candidates 2015 [UPDATE]

2014-09-04 Thread Martin Rulsch
Just what Risker suggested. ;-) (And I'd also support.)

Cheers,
Martin


2014-09-04 22:07 GMT+02:00 Michael Peel em...@mikepeel.net:

 Another option would be an open process on-wiki, along the same lines as
 the FDC board-selected seat nominations. Is there a need to keep
 applications confidential here?

 Thanks,
 Mike

 On 4 Sep 2014, at 20:51, Ad Huikeshoven a...@wikimedia.nl wrote:

  One option to consider is establishing an OTRS queue for AffCom.
 
  How many vacancies are there to be filled?
 
  Greetings,
 
  Ad
 
 
  2014-09-04 21:45 GMT+02:00 Risker risker...@gmail.com:
 
  Committees can have more than one mailing list, Bence.
 
  I suggest that Affcom rethink its approach: there's no good reason to
  assume that the order of candidacy has anything to do with selection,
  particularly if it goes to a second list, and your nominating
  subcommittee all has access.  It is always a bad idea for only one
 person
  to manage anything that results in formal appointments.  Accountability
 is
  important here.  I don't think it will harm your process whatsoever to
 get
  a mailing list set up by the weekend, since self-nominations do not
 close
  until September 30. Indeed, I'm not entirely clear why this isn't
 happening
  onwiki, but I suppose there may be a reason for that which doesn't come
  through in the original email.
 
  Risker/Anne
 
 
 
 
  On 4 September 2014 15:34, Bence Damokos bdamo...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Thank you for the suggestion, Anne!
 
  As some background, the reason the private e-mail address is used
 instead
  of the AffCom mailing list is that  it allows the incoming applications
  to
  be looked at all at the same time - thus not giving anyone an advantage
  or
  disadvantage based on the time they apply  especially if there are any
  outgoing AffCom members who are reapplying for another term (which may
  not
  be relevant this time around, I am not sure, but we tend to rely on
  existing processes and improve on them iteratively where we can based
 on
  suggestions like yours).
 
  Having a @wikimedia.org address would be cool, but they are not
  allocated
  to individual volunteers - we did ask a while ago. AffCom itself does
  have
  a mailing list on a wikimedia server, which we are not using for this
  purpose.Setting up a separate mailing list for the purpose might be
  something to consider next year.
 
  Hope this helps.
 
  Best regards,
  Bence
  (A member of AffCom, with some experience on how this process runs, but
  this is my personal view)
 
 
  On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 8:50 PM, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  A gmail address?
 
  I am sure if you ask nicely the committee can be granted a
  wikimedia.org
  email address through Mailman that will allow more than one person to
  handle applications. It could probably be done pretty quickly.
 
  Risker/Anne
 
 
  On 4 September 2014 14:35, Carlos M. Colina ma...@wikimedia.org.ve
  wrote:
 
  Dear all,
 
  Please note that, due a technical issue, direct your emails to
  salvador1...@gmail.com instead.
 
  Kindly apologize for the inconvenience.
 
  Regards,
  Carlos
 
 
  Sent from Samsung Mobile
 
   Original message 
  From: Carlos M. Colina ma...@wikimedia.org.ve
  Date: 03/09/2014  19:58  (GMT+02:00)
  To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org,Wikimedia Chapters general
  discussions chapt...@wikimedia.ch
  Subject: [Wikimedia-l] AffCom - Call for candidates 2015
 
  (in the case you received it already, sorry for re-sending it, my
  Thunderbird crashed just as I clicked the send button :-( )
 
  Dear all, The Affiliations Committee [1], the committee that is
  responsible for guiding volunteers in establishing Chapters, User
  Groups
  and Thematic Organizations and approving them when they are ready is
  looking for new members.
 
  The main focus of the AffCom is to guide groups of volunteers in
  forming
  affiliates. We make sure that the groups are large enough to be
  viable
  (and
  advise them on how to get bigger), review bylaws for compliance
  with the requirements and best practices, and advise the Board of the
  Wikimedia Foundation on issues connected to Chapters, Thematic
  Organizations and User Groups.
 
  This requires communication with volunteers all over the World,
  negotiating skills and cultural sensitivity and the ability to
  understand
  legal texts. We try to get a healthy mix of different skill sets in
  our
  members.
 
  The key skills/experience that we are looking for in candidate
  members,
  are typically the following:
 
   * Excitement by the challenge of helping to empower groups of
 volunteers worldwide
   * Willingness to process applications through a set, perhaps
 bureaucratic process
   * Readiness to participate in (movement roles) political
  discussions
 on the role and future of affiliates, models of affiliations, and
 similar questions
   * 5 hours per week availability [2], and the time to participate
  in a
 monthly ~2 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] AffCom - Call for candidates 2015 [UPDATE]

2014-09-04 Thread David Gerard
No yak left unshaven!

On 4 September 2014 21:07, Michael Peel em...@mikepeel.net wrote:
 Another option would be an open process on-wiki, along the same lines as the 
 FDC board-selected seat nominations. Is there a need to keep applications 
 confidential here?

 Thanks,
 Mike

 On 4 Sep 2014, at 20:51, Ad Huikeshoven a...@wikimedia.nl wrote:

 One option to consider is establishing an OTRS queue for AffCom.

 How many vacancies are there to be filled?

 Greetings,

 Ad


 2014-09-04 21:45 GMT+02:00 Risker risker...@gmail.com:

 Committees can have more than one mailing list, Bence.

 I suggest that Affcom rethink its approach: there's no good reason to
 assume that the order of candidacy has anything to do with selection,
 particularly if it goes to a second list, and your nominating
 subcommittee all has access.  It is always a bad idea for only one person
 to manage anything that results in formal appointments.  Accountability is
 important here.  I don't think it will harm your process whatsoever to get
 a mailing list set up by the weekend, since self-nominations do not close
 until September 30. Indeed, I'm not entirely clear why this isn't happening
 onwiki, but I suppose there may be a reason for that which doesn't come
 through in the original email.

 Risker/Anne




 On 4 September 2014 15:34, Bence Damokos bdamo...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thank you for the suggestion, Anne!

 As some background, the reason the private e-mail address is used instead
 of the AffCom mailing list is that  it allows the incoming applications
 to
 be looked at all at the same time - thus not giving anyone an advantage
 or
 disadvantage based on the time they apply  especially if there are any
 outgoing AffCom members who are reapplying for another term (which may
 not
 be relevant this time around, I am not sure, but we tend to rely on
 existing processes and improve on them iteratively where we can based on
 suggestions like yours).

 Having a @wikimedia.org address would be cool, but they are not
 allocated
 to individual volunteers - we did ask a while ago. AffCom itself does
 have
 a mailing list on a wikimedia server, which we are not using for this
 purpose.Setting up a separate mailing list for the purpose might be
 something to consider next year.

 Hope this helps.

 Best regards,
 Bence
 (A member of AffCom, with some experience on how this process runs, but
 this is my personal view)


 On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 8:50 PM, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote:

 A gmail address?

 I am sure if you ask nicely the committee can be granted a
 wikimedia.org
 email address through Mailman that will allow more than one person to
 handle applications. It could probably be done pretty quickly.

 Risker/Anne


 On 4 September 2014 14:35, Carlos M. Colina ma...@wikimedia.org.ve
 wrote:

 Dear all,

 Please note that, due a technical issue, direct your emails to
 salvador1...@gmail.com instead.

 Kindly apologize for the inconvenience.

 Regards,
 Carlos


 Sent from Samsung Mobile

  Original message 
 From: Carlos M. Colina ma...@wikimedia.org.ve
 Date: 03/09/2014  19:58  (GMT+02:00)
 To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org,Wikimedia Chapters general
 discussions chapt...@wikimedia.ch
 Subject: [Wikimedia-l] AffCom - Call for candidates 2015

 (in the case you received it already, sorry for re-sending it, my
 Thunderbird crashed just as I clicked the send button :-( )

 Dear all, The Affiliations Committee [1], the committee that is
 responsible for guiding volunteers in establishing Chapters, User
 Groups
 and Thematic Organizations and approving them when they are ready is
 looking for new members.

 The main focus of the AffCom is to guide groups of volunteers in
 forming
 affiliates. We make sure that the groups are large enough to be
 viable
 (and
 advise them on how to get bigger), review bylaws for compliance
 with the requirements and best practices, and advise the Board of the
 Wikimedia Foundation on issues connected to Chapters, Thematic
 Organizations and User Groups.

 This requires communication with volunteers all over the World,
 negotiating skills and cultural sensitivity and the ability to
 understand
 legal texts. We try to get a healthy mix of different skill sets in
 our
 members.

 The key skills/experience that we are looking for in candidate
 members,
 are typically the following:

  * Excitement by the challenge of helping to empower groups of
volunteers worldwide
  * Willingness to process applications through a set, perhaps
bureaucratic process
  * Readiness to participate in (movement roles) political
 discussions
on the role and future of affiliates, models of affiliations, and
similar questions
  * 5 hours per week availability [2], and the time to participate
 in a
monthly ~2 hour voice/video meeting
  * International orientation
  * Very good communication skills in English
  * Ability to work and communicate with other languages and cultures
  * Strong 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] AffCom - Call for candidates 2015 [UPDATE]

2014-09-04 Thread David Gerard
Sorry, clarification: I'm alluding to Wikipedians' tendency to go off
into detailed side-discussions at the drop of a hat. I didn't mean
this as a dig at anyone.

On 4 September 2014 21:28, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
 No yak left unshaven!

 On 4 September 2014 21:07, Michael Peel em...@mikepeel.net wrote:
 Another option would be an open process on-wiki, along the same lines as the 
 FDC board-selected seat nominations. Is there a need to keep applications 
 confidential here?

 Thanks,
 Mike

 On 4 Sep 2014, at 20:51, Ad Huikeshoven a...@wikimedia.nl wrote:

 One option to consider is establishing an OTRS queue for AffCom.

 How many vacancies are there to be filled?

 Greetings,

 Ad


 2014-09-04 21:45 GMT+02:00 Risker risker...@gmail.com:

 Committees can have more than one mailing list, Bence.

 I suggest that Affcom rethink its approach: there's no good reason to
 assume that the order of candidacy has anything to do with selection,
 particularly if it goes to a second list, and your nominating
 subcommittee all has access.  It is always a bad idea for only one person
 to manage anything that results in formal appointments.  Accountability is
 important here.  I don't think it will harm your process whatsoever to get
 a mailing list set up by the weekend, since self-nominations do not close
 until September 30. Indeed, I'm not entirely clear why this isn't happening
 onwiki, but I suppose there may be a reason for that which doesn't come
 through in the original email.

 Risker/Anne




 On 4 September 2014 15:34, Bence Damokos bdamo...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thank you for the suggestion, Anne!

 As some background, the reason the private e-mail address is used instead
 of the AffCom mailing list is that  it allows the incoming applications
 to
 be looked at all at the same time - thus not giving anyone an advantage
 or
 disadvantage based on the time they apply  especially if there are any
 outgoing AffCom members who are reapplying for another term (which may
 not
 be relevant this time around, I am not sure, but we tend to rely on
 existing processes and improve on them iteratively where we can based on
 suggestions like yours).

 Having a @wikimedia.org address would be cool, but they are not
 allocated
 to individual volunteers - we did ask a while ago. AffCom itself does
 have
 a mailing list on a wikimedia server, which we are not using for this
 purpose.Setting up a separate mailing list for the purpose might be
 something to consider next year.

 Hope this helps.

 Best regards,
 Bence
 (A member of AffCom, with some experience on how this process runs, but
 this is my personal view)


 On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 8:50 PM, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote:

 A gmail address?

 I am sure if you ask nicely the committee can be granted a
 wikimedia.org
 email address through Mailman that will allow more than one person to
 handle applications. It could probably be done pretty quickly.

 Risker/Anne


 On 4 September 2014 14:35, Carlos M. Colina ma...@wikimedia.org.ve
 wrote:

 Dear all,

 Please note that, due a technical issue, direct your emails to
 salvador1...@gmail.com instead.

 Kindly apologize for the inconvenience.

 Regards,
 Carlos


 Sent from Samsung Mobile

  Original message 
 From: Carlos M. Colina ma...@wikimedia.org.ve
 Date: 03/09/2014  19:58  (GMT+02:00)
 To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org,Wikimedia Chapters general
 discussions chapt...@wikimedia.ch
 Subject: [Wikimedia-l] AffCom - Call for candidates 2015

 (in the case you received it already, sorry for re-sending it, my
 Thunderbird crashed just as I clicked the send button :-( )

 Dear all, The Affiliations Committee [1], the committee that is
 responsible for guiding volunteers in establishing Chapters, User
 Groups
 and Thematic Organizations and approving them when they are ready is
 looking for new members.

 The main focus of the AffCom is to guide groups of volunteers in
 forming
 affiliates. We make sure that the groups are large enough to be
 viable
 (and
 advise them on how to get bigger), review bylaws for compliance
 with the requirements and best practices, and advise the Board of the
 Wikimedia Foundation on issues connected to Chapters, Thematic
 Organizations and User Groups.

 This requires communication with volunteers all over the World,
 negotiating skills and cultural sensitivity and the ability to
 understand
 legal texts. We try to get a healthy mix of different skill sets in
 our
 members.

 The key skills/experience that we are looking for in candidate
 members,
 are typically the following:

  * Excitement by the challenge of helping to empower groups of
volunteers worldwide
  * Willingness to process applications through a set, perhaps
bureaucratic process
  * Readiness to participate in (movement roles) political
 discussions
on the role and future of affiliates, models of affiliations, and
similar questions
  * 5 hours per week availability [2], and the 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] AffCom - Call for candidates 2015 [UPDATE]

2014-09-04 Thread Everton Zanella Alvarenga
2014-09-04 17:07 GMT-03:00 Michael Peel em...@mikepeel.net:

 Another option would be an open process on-wiki, along the same lines as
 the FDC board-selected seat nominations. Is there a need to keep
 applications confidential here?


That is a good idea. But that will not happen any time soon or ever.

Tom
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