Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcing the Flow Portal(s)

2013-05-16 Thread David Cuenca
Hi Brandon,

Thanks for the announce and also for the effort of letting the door open
for suggestions and feedback. I regard Flow as an excellent tool for
centralizing all communications in one spot and I really hope user
involvement is as high as this tool would deserve. So far the test page
looks really appealing!

I would like to make you aware of a related problem which is that of
interwiki or interproject presence. Sometimes it is wanted that a certain
set of pages is present across several wikis (like in the case of the Flow
portal), and the best approximation we had to this is interwiki
transclusion. This kind of soft transclusion is less than ideal, because
users following a transcluded page won't get notified of a change, cannot
edit the transcluded page and besides they are difficult to create.

Would be there any way to simulate a hard transclusion? What I have in
mind is:
- a set of pages in meta can be declared of interest for selected
projects/languages
- mirror pages are created on the selected wikis/projects/languages (bot
drudgery? db necromancy? flow magic?)
- changes are notified in the recent changes of all relevant projects,
subscribers are notified

What are your thoughts on this?

Cheers,
David --Micru

On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 4:47 PM, Brandon Harris bhar...@wikimedia.orgwrote:

 Hello!

 As many of you know, the Wikimedia Foundation is now actively
 engaged in designing a next-generation discussion and workflow system
 called Flow, initially slated to replace user talk pages.  Flow is an
 ambitious project (on par with the VisualEditor) and will touch nearly
 every aspect of the Wikimedia experience.

 We need ''your'' help and input.  We have started a portal for
 information and discussion.

 You can find it on the English Wikipedia here:
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Flow

 And on MediaWiki here: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Flow_Portal

 (We'll be creating one on meta as well).

 At the Flow portal, you can read about what we're doing and why,
 as well as play around with an interactive prototype.

 We're desperately interested in your feedback and thoughts.  There
 are things that we know, and things that we know that we don't know. But
 there are also things that we *don't* know that we don't know.  And we want
 to reduce that lack of knowledge.

 We will also be conducting additional office hours for a variety
 of timezones - as many as we need to - and will also be open to having
 conversations via Google hangouts and/or Skype as need be.  I am always
 around on irc (freenode, username jorm) and am willing to answer any
 questions you may have.

 -b.
 ---
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[Wikimedia-l] Announcing the Flow Portal(s)

2013-05-15 Thread Brandon Harris
Hello!

As many of you know, the Wikimedia Foundation is now actively engaged 
in designing a next-generation discussion and workflow system called Flow, 
initially slated to replace user talk pages.  Flow is an ambitious project (on 
par with the VisualEditor) and will touch nearly every aspect of the Wikimedia 
experience.

We need ''your'' help and input.  We have started a portal for 
information and discussion.

You can find it on the English Wikipedia here: 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Flow

And on MediaWiki here: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Flow_Portal

(We'll be creating one on meta as well).

At the Flow portal, you can read about what we're doing and why, as 
well as play around with an interactive prototype.  

We're desperately interested in your feedback and thoughts.  There are 
things that we know, and things that we know that we don't know. But there are 
also things that we *don't* know that we don't know.  And we want to reduce 
that lack of knowledge.

We will also be conducting additional office hours for a variety of 
timezones - as many as we need to - and will also be open to having 
conversations via Google hangouts and/or Skype as need be.  I am always around 
on irc (freenode, username jorm) and am willing to answer any questions you 
may have.

-b.
---
Brandon Harris, Senior Designer, Wikimedia Foundation

Support Free Knowledge: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate


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