Re: [Wikimedia-l] Annoying ads

2020-05-07 Thread Todd Allen
I don't see a particular issue with requesting totally voluntary donations. It's not like we're putting up a paywall, so if someone can't afford it right now, they lose nothing by not donating. It may even be that for some (as per the feedback in the previous email from Nick) that making a small

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Annoying ads

2020-05-07 Thread Nick Wilson (Quiddity)
This has been on our departments' minds for the past few months. Since the beginning of the pandemic, we have been changing our campaign schedules (including shortening the Italian campaign) and steadily revising our messaging. We are closely monitoring reader and donor feedback, responding to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Annoying ads

2020-05-07 Thread Nick Wilson (Quiddity)
My apologies John for my overly basic initial response. I wanted to note that regarding the banner design [1] we’ve definitely heard and taken the feedback on board as a team. Our design team discussed it on Monday and are exploring ways in which we might iterate on this in future tests. We are

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Annoying ads

2020-05-05 Thread John Erling Blad
It happen after a reboot where the browsers was reset. No, I did not take a screenshot. On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 7:43 PM Samuel Klein wrote: > > > > This is a complaint about multiple banners on the same page. > > > > > I believe it would be better to put the add on the lower part of the > >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Annoying ads

2020-05-05 Thread Samuel Klein
> > This is a complaint about multiple banners on the same page. > I believe it would be better to put the add on the lower part of the > viewport, for all users, and for a limited time. Posting ads at random > locations I couldn't figure out how to experience this feature -- can you share a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Annoying ads

2020-05-05 Thread John Erling Blad
One of the browsers are set up with forced session cookies and web storage, and also to block third parties. It breaks several features, also central login. I have reported it as an issue, but none has bothered to create a fix. I believe it would be better to put the add on the lower part of the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Annoying ads

2020-05-05 Thread Gerard Meijssen
ves Beaudouin) > >5. Re: Annoying ads (Nick Wilson (Quiddity)) > >6. Re: Annoying ads (Samuel Klein) > >7. Re: Annoying ads (Paulo Santos Perneta) > >8. Re: Annoying ads (Paulo Santos Perneta) > > > > > &

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Annoying ads

2020-05-05 Thread John Erling Blad
Thanks, but I do know how to log in at Wikipedia, its about 15 years since I started editing. This is a complaint about multiple banners on the same page. On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 11:02 PM Nick Wilson (Quiddity) < nwil...@wikimedia.org> wrote: > Hi John, thank you for the feedback. > > The

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Annoying ads

2020-05-05 Thread John Erling Blad
I am nearly always logged in, but I also quite frequently open browser windows where I am not logged in. It might have something to do with who I am and what I do. On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 5:27 PM Robert Fernandez wrote: > I know this might sound crazy, but have you considered logging in? > > On

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Annoying ads

2020-05-05 Thread WereSpielChequers
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Annoying ads

2020-05-05 Thread Enock Seth Nyamador
Do we already have a script or checkbox somewhere to disable banners? Best, Am Di., 5. Mai 2020 um 10:25 Uhr schrieb Paulo Santos Perneta < paulospern...@gmail.com>: > Why do you ask? Unregistered readers are some kind of inferior creatures > not worth of any attention? > Registering an account

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Annoying ads

2020-05-05 Thread Paulo Santos Perneta
Why do you ask? Unregistered readers are some kind of inferior creatures not worth of any attention? Registering an account and logging in is optional in Wikimedia. Paulo Robert Fernandez escreveu no dia segunda, 4/05/2020 à(s) 16:27: > I know this might sound crazy, but have you considered

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Annoying ads

2020-05-05 Thread Paulo Santos Perneta
In the first days of the pandemic, while trying to read info on my cellphone, where I'm usually logged out, I was bombed first with that ugly black thing signed by Katherine Maher, then in the next page I navigated to, with a red message directed at "my friend from Portugal", both of them asking

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Annoying ads

2020-05-04 Thread Samuel Klein
> > If you're browsing in a private-window, this means the browser cannot > remember (save in a cookie) that you clicked "close" or saw the banner > already, hence you might be seeing more banners than most readers would. > Worth mentioning each time it comes up: This seems like an instance of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Annoying ads

2020-05-04 Thread Nick Wilson (Quiddity)
Hi John, thank you for the feedback. The banners you see are continually changing, as we refine our designs based on feedback and efficacy. Donation banners are inherently disruptive, on any site. We try to minimize the annoyance whilst also maximizing the effectiveness in order to show as few

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Annoying ads

2020-05-04 Thread Pierre-Yves Beaudouin via Wikimedia-l
We should create a rule that state that each discussion on wikimedia-l will end with "it's the fault of WMF!" ;) The problem of viewing several banners at the same time happens because some community members still use Sitenotice. I think that it's a bad idea and that they should only use

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Annoying ads

2020-05-04 Thread Robert Fernandez
I know this might sound crazy, but have you considered logging in? On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 10:56 AM John Erling Blad wrote: > Often I surf Wikipedia without being logged in, and so I did right now. I > got the usual banners, but this time they popped up repeatedly in several > locations. This

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Annoying ads

2020-05-04 Thread Benjamin Ikuta
Countless editors, myself included, have complained about this over the years. Regarding the WMF's response, actions speak louder than words. On May 4, 2020, at 7:55 AM, John Erling Blad wrote: > Often I surf Wikipedia without being logged in, and so I did right now. I > got the usual

[Wikimedia-l] Annoying ads

2020-05-04 Thread John Erling Blad
Often I surf Wikipedia without being logged in, and so I did right now. I got the usual banners, but this time they popped up repeatedly in several locations. This quickly gets extremely annoying, and I find it unwise. Create one banner, and stick with that. Several banners are simply way over the