Re: [Wikimedia-l] Become a Digital object identifier (DOI) registarnt

2015-01-21 Thread geni
On 21 January 2015 at 00:01, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com wrote: The two articles combined make me wonder: if I cite a Wikimedia projects page in a long-term document, should I link something like perma.cc or to the oldid? I prefer the oldid, because I think it's every website's

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Become a Digital object identifier (DOI) registarnt

2015-01-21 Thread Strainu
2015-01-21 13:40 GMT+02:00 geni geni...@gmail.com: On 21 January 2015 at 00:01, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com wrote: The two articles combined make me wonder: if I cite a Wikimedia projects page in a long-term document, should I link something like perma.cc or to the oldid? I

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Become a Digital object identifier (DOI) registarnt

2015-01-20 Thread phoebe ayers
(sort of) related to this old thread... the DOI resolver site went down today because they apparently forgot to renew the domain, and the author of this blog post from CrossRef (who runs it) suggests relying on *us* for persistent identifier stability:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Become a Digital object identifier (DOI) registarnt

2015-01-20 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
phoebe ayers, 20/01/2015 23:42: suggests relying on*us* for persistent identifier stability: Hmm I'm not sure that's what it's written there. However, relatedly, also today: http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/01/26/cobweb «The footnote, a landmark in the history of civilization, took

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Become a Digital object identifier (DOI) registarnt

2014-12-31 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Andy Mabbett, 30/12/2014 22:53: Where 's the best on-wiki (Meta?) place to propose this? https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/RfC looks ok *if* you have enough information already. For instance, AFAIK DOI has a non-negligible cost and Internet Archive uses ARK instead for this reason. Information

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Become a Digital object identifier (DOI) registarnt

2014-12-31 Thread Laurentius
Il giorno mer, 31/12/2014 alle 09.25 +0100, Federico Leva (Nemo) ha scritto: Andy Mabbett, 30/12/2014 22:53: Where 's the best on-wiki (Meta?) place to propose this? https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/RfC looks ok *if* you have enough information already. For instance, AFAIK DOI has a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Become a Digital object identifier (DOI) registarnt

2014-12-31 Thread Andrew Gray
My experience is that to create a DOI you need to provide a basic level of metadata for each item rather than simply registering a target URL - I'm not sure how curated this needs to be, and it can probably be autogenerated, but there might be problems scaling it and doing it on demand. There is

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Become a Digital object identifier (DOI) registarnt

2014-12-31 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 31 December 2014 at 10:10, Laurentius laurentius.w...@gmail.com wrote: The WMF could be a DOI registrant It looks quite expensive indeed: Yes, that would seem to be prohibitive (and unreasonably so). Pity. Does ARK: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archival_Resource_Key have any

[Wikimedia-l] Become a Digital object identifier (DOI) registarnt

2014-12-30 Thread Andy Mabbett
Digital object identifiers are an international standard for document identification: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_object_identifier The WMF could be a DOI registrant, and resolve DOIs in the form 10..Qn for Wikidata items, or, say, 10..en:609232908 for: