[Wikimedia-l] Clerk role description?

2012-05-01 Thread Sue Gardner
Hey folks, I had a 90-second conversation the other day with SJ about whether it would make sense for us to use volunteer clerks as support for the FDC (Funds Dissemination Committee), and I'm wondering if anyone can point me towards any documentation of the role -- a description of how it's

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Clerk role description?

2012-05-01 Thread Thehelpfulone
And the SPI (Sockpuppet Investigations) clerks are described at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/SPI/Clerks#Clerks . On 1 May 2012 20:03, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote: The English Wikipedia ArbCom's clerks are described here:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Clerk role description?

2012-05-01 Thread Samuel Klein
On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 3:06 PM, Yaroslav M. Blanter pute...@mccme.ru wrote: Based on this definition, I would not like to be called a clerk. May be an Arbcom clerk is ok, because they are supposed to keep records and undertake routine administrative duties, but not for FDC, whise members are

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Clerk role description?

2012-05-01 Thread Risker
On 1 May 2012 15:00, Sue Gardner sgard...@wikimedia.org wrote: Hey folks, I had a 90-second conversation the other day with SJ about whether it would make sense for us to use volunteer clerks as support for the FDC (Funds Dissemination Committee), and I'm wondering if anyone can point me

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Clerk role description?

2012-05-01 Thread Risker
On 1 May 2012 16:47, Michael Snow wikipe...@frontier.com wrote: On 5/1/2012 12:37 PM, Risker wrote: On 1 May 2012 15:00, Sue Gardnersgard...@wikimedia.org** wrote: Hey folks, I had a 90-second conversation the other day with SJ about whether it would make sense for us to use volunteer

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Clerk role description?

2012-05-01 Thread Risker
On 1 May 2012 17:06, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote: On 1 May 2012 21:47, Michael Snow wikipe...@frontier.com wrote: I don't know, is it actually that hard to make a determination that creating this kind of support role is useful? We may not have worked out all the details of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Clerk role description?

2012-05-01 Thread Thomas Dalton
On 1 May 2012 22:11, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote: I agree that it is likely they'll need some kind of support.  The type of support they will need is mostly dependent on what their scope and responsibilities are, though.  This is very much cart-before-the-horse in my mind, kind of like

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Clerk role description?

2012-05-01 Thread Risker
On 1 May 2012 17:13, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote: On 1 May 2012 22:11, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote: I agree that it is likely they'll need some kind of support. The type of support they will need is mostly dependent on what their scope and responsibilities are,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Clerk role description?

2012-05-01 Thread Thomas Dalton
On 1 May 2012 22:31, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote: I'm just making it clear from my perspective that I find it concerning that there are discussions about the infrastructure to support the FDC when we are at the very beginning of the discussion about what the FDC should actually be doing,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Clerk role description?

2012-05-01 Thread Samuel Klein
David Gerard wrote: The arbcom clerking role evolved from the tedious paperwork of arbitration getting annoying. Best not put a bureaucracy in place until it's absolutely needed. We have enough of a tendency to instruction creep without planning it in advance ... Thomas Dalton wote: I

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Clerk role description?

2012-05-01 Thread Risker
On 1 May 2012 18:13, Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com wrote: David Gerard wrote: The arbcom clerking role evolved from the tedious paperwork of arbitration getting annoying. Best not put a bureaucracy in place until it's absolutely needed. We have enough of a tendency to instruction creep

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Clerk role description?

2012-05-01 Thread phoebe ayers
On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 5:42 PM, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote: On 1 May 2012 18:13, Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com wrote: David Gerard wrote: The arbcom clerking role evolved from the tedious paperwork of arbitration getting annoying. Best not put a bureaucracy in place until it's