Hi everyone, Splitting the thread off to avoid hijacking it
On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 9:50 AM, Mitar <mmi...@gmail.com> wrote: > I think this conversation is diverging from the question of the > *service* we should offer to others to licensing of the content. > Licensing does not say anything about the service one should offer for > the content. Any service, any API, is more or less something one does > extra on top of the licensing requirements. We could just offer dumps > of data and this is it. But if we offer more, some specialized > services, uptime and availability and so on, that does not have much > with the licensing of the content. That discussion should thus be on > some other layer. Investigating licensing will not give us much > insight into the question if we should go into the business of > offering data services or not. I think this is a useful way of thinking about the problem. One thing we discussed quite a bit at the Wikimedia Developer Summit earlier this month is the distinction between the content format (see "content format" < https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119022>) and the APIs that we use to access the content (see "content access": < https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119029>). The two are incredibly easy to conflate, in part because one could argue that the content format is merely a translatable expression of the underlying data model. That said, it seems to me that we have to stop abstracting things *somewhere*, to avoid getting deeply lost in too many layers of abstraction. If nothing else, we need a "free format" per the Free Content definition (<http://freedomdefined.org/>). Mitar, is your layer distinction between "service" and "content" the same one that I'm trying to draw between "content format" and "content access"? I have further thoughts on this, but I just want to make sure we're talking about the same distinction. Rob _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>