Re: [Wikimedia-l] Edit #1 and Challenge #1 - user privacy

[ENWP Pine]

Hi Nathan, what you're describing is an opt-out practice. I believe that the
practice should be opt-in.

Take this with a grain of salt. I participate in some grantmaking and 
administrative
groups and I err on the side of privacy, but I'm fairly confident that the 
Privacy
Policy applies in this case and that the practice should be opt-in for 
republication,
even if not explicitly required by policy, because it's the more conservative 
and 
more courteous approach. In general this community is conservative about
privacy issues, although we are also interested in transparency, which makes
for an interesting mix of priorities.

Pine
  
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Edit #1 and Challenge #1 - user privacy

[Nathan]

On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 3:48 PM, ENWP Pine  wrote:

> Hi Lila,
>
> My read of the *new* Privacy Policy is that nonpublic emails sent
> to WMF should remain nonpublic unless the user gives consent to the
> contrary. The policy states that "We may share your information for a
> particular purpose, if you agree." Otherwise emails are considered
> personal information and their redistribution is restricted. See
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Privacy_policy#share-to-experiment
> and
>
> https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Privacy_policy#Access_to_and_release_of_personally_identifiable_information
>
> So, please do not take the view that "Otherwise, we will consider them
> public" if you do not hear back from someone who has contacted you.
>
> The general practice in the community is that emails are considered private
> by default.
>
> "Private" doesn't mean absolutely private, for example it's common for
> members of certain committees to circulate emails among themselves,
> but those emails don't usually get forwarded outside of the group or
> republished without opt-in permission from the sender. Similarly, WMF
> may circulate emails internally.
>
> User privacy is a big deal in this community. Perhaps you know more
> about the Privacy Policy than I do, but my understanding is that your
> announced plans are inconsistent with the current and draft policies.
> Fortunately, that is easy to fix in this situation.
>
> I am glad you have taken an interest in the experiences of new editors. (:
>
> Pine
>
>
>
Let's not be so quick to criticize; Lila's e-mail is the invitation to
participate. By responding to her prompt and not asking for your comments
to be private, you agree with the solicitation that the comments be public.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Edit #1 and Challenge #1 - user privacy

[ENWP Pine]

Hi Lila,

My read of the *new* Privacy Policy is that nonpublic emails sent 
to WMF should remain nonpublic unless the user gives consent to the 
contrary. The policy states that "We may share your information for a 
particular purpose, if you agree." Otherwise emails are considered 
personal information and their redistribution is restricted. See
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Privacy_policy#share-to-experiment
and 
https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Privacy_policy#Access_to_and_release_of_personally_identifiable_information

So, please do not take the view that "Otherwise, we will consider them 
public" if you do not hear back from someone who has contacted you.

The general practice in the community is that emails are considered private
by default.

"Private" doesn't mean absolutely private, for example it's common for
members of certain committees to circulate emails among themselves,
but those emails don't usually get forwarded outside of the group or 
republished without opt-in permission from the sender. Similarly, WMF
may circulate emails internally.

User privacy is a big deal in this community. Perhaps you know more
about the Privacy Policy than I do, but my understanding is that your
announced plans are inconsistent with the current and draft policies. 
Fortunately, that is easy to fix in this situation.

I am glad you have taken an interest in the experiences of new editors. (:

Pine



Date: Thu, 29 May 2014 11:22:21 -0800
From: Lila Tretikov 
To: Wikimedia Mailing List 
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Edit #1 and Challenge #1
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All,
 
It'd be wonderful to be able to share these stories publicly in the future.
I'm going to reach out to those who have already shared their experiences
with me to confirm they're comfortable with sharing. If you're not
comfortable with sharing your story, or want to withhold your name, please
let me know in your email. Otherwise, we will consider them public, so we
can build on your experiences and share them widely!
 
Thank you!
Lila  
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