Re: [Wikimedia-l] Exit Interview - Sue

2013-05-17 Thread Dan Rosenthal
Huh, I did not know that (I use Reddit maybe once a year at best). Perhaps
that wouldn't be a bad thing though, if that means you are speaking
directly to a relevant audience (men in an all male environment, about
gender gaps).

Dan Rosenthal


On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 8:54 AM, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.comwrote:

 Dan Rosenthal, 17/05/2013 07:32:

  Is there any thought or discussion as to whether Sue could (or would want
 to) additionally do an actual Reddit IAmA, as Jorm did? Don't get me
 wrong,
 I understand why it is on Meta and I think the Meta interview is a great
 idea, but there is also something to be said for presenting to an audience
 of people beyond our immediate community of users who even know about
 meta,
 which Reddit's IAmA subreddit is. Especially since Sue has done some very
 important work on things like gender issues and her departing thoughts on
 broader internet governance issues that would benefit from a wider
 audience.


 Note however that Reddit is an all-male environment, as noted on some
 other list linking this: https://infobeautiful3.s3.**
 amazonaws.com/2013/01/1276_**chicks_rule.pnghttps://infobeautiful3.s3.amazonaws.com/2013/01/1276_chicks_rule.png
 .
 (Still not as bad as Wikimedia!)

 Nemo


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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Exit Interview - Sue

2013-05-17 Thread Tom Morris
On Friday, 17 May 2013 at 06:54, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote:
 Dan Rosenthal, 17/05/2013 07:32:
  Is there any thought or discussion as to whether Sue could (or would want
  to) additionally do an actual Reddit IAmA, as Jorm did? Don't get me wrong,
  I understand why it is on Meta and I think the Meta interview is a great
  idea, but there is also something to be said for presenting to an audience
  of people beyond our immediate community of users who even know about meta,
  which Reddit's IAmA subreddit is. Especially since Sue has done some very
  important work on things like gender issues and her departing thoughts on
  broader internet governance issues that would benefit from a wider audience.
 
 
 
 
 Note however that Reddit is an all-male environment, as noted on some
 other list linking this:
 https://infobeautiful3.s3.amazonaws.com/2013/01/1276_chicks_rule.png.
 (Still not as bad as Wikimedia!)



Reddit is like the rest of the Internet: there are bits which are misogynist 
and horrible, and there are bits which are more progressive and inclusive on 
gender issues. r/mensrights or r/seduction are a hell of a lot creepier than, 
say, r/feminisms or r/lgbt or, indeed, some technical topic like r/python.

If Sue were to do an IAmA (and that's kind of up to her), there'd probably be 
some sexist assholery and some people who want to rant about the perceived 
injustice of wanting to encourage women to edit Wikipedia (I know, pass the 
smelling salts, what a radical idea), but there's a solution for that: report 
it to the mods and move on.

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http://tommorris.org/



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[Wikimedia-l] Exit Interview - Sue

2013-05-16 Thread Theo10011
Hi

A few weeks ago MZMcBride proposed an exit interview for Sue on Meta. I
believe his intention was something similar to Reddit's IAmA. I thought
that this was a good idea and supported it. Sue has been at the helm for a
long while, it would be interesting to get her reflection on all the
changes, and give everyone who missed the last IRC office hour session, a
chance to ask any lingering questions.

Sue graciously accepted to do an exit interview a couple of weeks ago. The
page is already set up on Meta[1] for this, and we have a few questions
already. So far, things are organizing themselves pretty well with everyone
voting on what questions are finally picked. Please understand that we want
this to be a slow process, so everyone has time to see the questions and it
can take weeks to get your answer.

I would like to invite everyone reading this to have a look at the page.
Please feel free to post your questions or vote for the ones already
listed. Signpost, Wikinews or any other project/group that wants to use the
exit interview is welcomed to follow that page and add to it. Thanks to MZ
for getting things rolling on Meta and Sue, for accepting to do this.

Regards
Theo


[1]http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_exit_interview/Sue_Gardner
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Exit Interview - Sue

2013-05-16 Thread Samuel Klein
This was a wonderful idea.  Thank you both for organizing it.  SJ

On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 12:09 AM, Theo10011 de10...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi

 A few weeks ago MZMcBride proposed an exit interview for Sue on Meta. I
 believe his intention was something similar to Reddit's IAmA. I thought
 that this was a good idea and supported it. Sue has been at the helm for a
 long while, it would be interesting to get her reflection on all the
 changes, and give everyone who missed the last IRC office hour session, a
 chance to ask any lingering questions.

 Sue graciously accepted to do an exit interview a couple of weeks ago. The
 page is already set up on Meta[1] for this, and we have a few questions
 already. So far, things are organizing themselves pretty well with everyone
 voting on what questions are finally picked. Please understand that we want
 this to be a slow process, so everyone has time to see the questions and it
 can take weeks to get your answer.

 I would like to invite everyone reading this to have a look at the page.
 Please feel free to post your questions or vote for the ones already
 listed. Signpost, Wikinews or any other project/group that wants to use the
 exit interview is welcomed to follow that page and add to it. Thanks to MZ
 for getting things rolling on Meta and Sue, for accepting to do this.

 Regards
 Theo


 [1]http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_exit_interview/Sue_Gardner
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Exit Interview - Sue

2013-05-16 Thread Dan Rosenthal
Is there any thought or discussion as to whether Sue could (or would want
to) additionally do an actual Reddit IAmA, as Jorm did? Don't get me wrong,
I understand why it is on Meta and I think the Meta interview is a great
idea, but there is also something to be said for presenting to an audience
of people beyond our immediate community of users who even know about meta,
which Reddit's IAmA subreddit is. Especially since Sue has done some very
important work on things like gender issues and her departing thoughts on
broader internet governance issues that would benefit from a wider audience.

-Dan



Dan Rosenthal


On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 7:46 AM, Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com wrote:

 This was a wonderful idea.  Thank you both for organizing it.  SJ

 On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 12:09 AM, Theo10011 de10...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi
 
  A few weeks ago MZMcBride proposed an exit interview for Sue on Meta. I
  believe his intention was something similar to Reddit's IAmA. I thought
  that this was a good idea and supported it. Sue has been at the helm for
 a
  long while, it would be interesting to get her reflection on all the
  changes, and give everyone who missed the last IRC office hour session, a
  chance to ask any lingering questions.
 
  Sue graciously accepted to do an exit interview a couple of weeks ago.
 The
  page is already set up on Meta[1] for this, and we have a few questions
  already. So far, things are organizing themselves pretty well with
 everyone
  voting on what questions are finally picked. Please understand that we
 want
  this to be a slow process, so everyone has time to see the questions and
 it
  can take weeks to get your answer.
 
  I would like to invite everyone reading this to have a look at the page.
  Please feel free to post your questions or vote for the ones already
  listed. Signpost, Wikinews or any other project/group that wants to use
 the
  exit interview is welcomed to follow that page and add to it. Thanks to
 MZ
  for getting things rolling on Meta and Sue, for accepting to do this.
 
  Regards
  Theo
 
 
  [1]http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_exit_interview/Sue_Gardner
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Exit Interview - Sue

2013-05-16 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)

Dan Rosenthal, 17/05/2013 07:32:

Is there any thought or discussion as to whether Sue could (or would want
to) additionally do an actual Reddit IAmA, as Jorm did? Don't get me wrong,
I understand why it is on Meta and I think the Meta interview is a great
idea, but there is also something to be said for presenting to an audience
of people beyond our immediate community of users who even know about meta,
which Reddit's IAmA subreddit is. Especially since Sue has done some very
important work on things like gender issues and her departing thoughts on
broader internet governance issues that would benefit from a wider audience.


Note however that Reddit is an all-male environment, as noted on some 
other list linking this: 
https://infobeautiful3.s3.amazonaws.com/2013/01/1276_chicks_rule.png.

(Still not as bad as Wikimedia!)

Nemo


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