Re: [Wikimedia-l] FDC Letter of Intent process and schedule for 2013-14
On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 2:54 PM, Patricio Lorente wrote: > I think you should read again the original email. The word "proposed" is > never used there. The fourth paragraph says: > > "For your reference, here is the updated 2013-2014 Round 1 proposal process > schedule:", refering to the process schedule for actual proposals. > > Perhaps you understood: > > "For your reference, here is the updated 2013-2014 Round 1 proposed process > schedule:", which means a completely different thing. The email was not > intended to send a proposal, but an already fixed calendar, which, by the > way, should not create panic on anyone because the deadlines are in fact > being extended. > > I hope is clearer now. True, my bad. Thanks for clarification! ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] FDC Letter of Intent process and schedule for 2013-14
Hi Milos! I think you should read again the original email. The word "proposed" is never used there. The fourth paragraph says: "For your reference, here is the updated 2013-2014 Round 1 proposal process schedule:", refering to the process schedule for actual proposals. Perhaps you understood: "For your reference, here is the updated 2013-2014 Round 1 proposed process schedule:", which means a completely different thing. The email was not intended to send a proposal, but an already fixed calendar, which, by the way, should not create panic on anyone because the deadlines are in fact being extended. I hope is clearer now. Patricio 2013/4/18 Milos Rancic > On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 11:27 AM, Jan-Bart de Vreede > wrote: > > I am sorry I don't understand the remarks completely… can you tell me a > little bit more about what you are referring to? > > As not particularly interested in the topic, I read the first > paragraph or two of the emails related to FDC, hoping that it's enough > to be generally informed. This time I read the whole email. > > The first paragraph uses present tense, which means that things are > definitely defined. > > Just fourth paragraph says that it's about *proposed* process schedule > (which could be changed if there are [really] good reasons). > > So, if it's about something which has been proposed, which is not in > power already, notice at the top of the email like "*** The > information inside of this email is proposal. Conclusion of the > process is schedule for . ***", as well as noting that inside of > the subject could be very useful for those (including myself) who are > not particularly interested in the matter. > > In other words, if I am an active member of an affiliate organization > and see this email before the first coffee, I'd alert my colleagues > and likely cause a small level of panic. Note that the first date of > the schedule has been put in less than two months, which is quite > tight for some chapters (those which operate in large area and require > board members to gather in person). > > So, while not a big deal per se, not marking such emails properly > could cause unnecessary tension. > > ___ > Wikimedia-l mailing list > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l > -- Patricio Lorente Blog: http://www.patriciolorente.com.ar Identi.ca // Twitter: @patriciolorente ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] FDC Letter of Intent process and schedule for 2013-14
On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 11:27 AM, Jan-Bart de Vreede wrote: > I am sorry I don't understand the remarks completely… can you tell me a > little bit more about what you are referring to? As not particularly interested in the topic, I read the first paragraph or two of the emails related to FDC, hoping that it's enough to be generally informed. This time I read the whole email. The first paragraph uses present tense, which means that things are definitely defined. Just fourth paragraph says that it's about *proposed* process schedule (which could be changed if there are [really] good reasons). So, if it's about something which has been proposed, which is not in power already, notice at the top of the email like "*** The information inside of this email is proposal. Conclusion of the process is schedule for . ***", as well as noting that inside of the subject could be very useful for those (including myself) who are not particularly interested in the matter. In other words, if I am an active member of an affiliate organization and see this email before the first coffee, I'd alert my colleagues and likely cause a small level of panic. Note that the first date of the schedule has been put in less than two months, which is quite tight for some chapters (those which operate in large area and require board members to gather in person). So, while not a big deal per se, not marking such emails properly could cause unnecessary tension. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] FDC Letter of Intent process and schedule for 2013-14
Hey Milos, I am sorry I don't understand the remarks completely… can you tell me a little bit more about what you are referring to? Jan-Bart On Apr 18, 2013, at 11:09 AM, Milos Rancic wrote: > It would be very useful to express the current state of the FDC in emails > like this one -- at the top of email. > > For a couple of months I was mislead that FDC is actually working and that > Wikimedia entities should do a kind of action toward FDC if they want to > get funds. > > Contrary to that, just if emails like this one have been carefully read, > one can conclude that all of them present lists of non-binding wishes for > informational purpose, although it's explicitly stated that Wikimedia > entities should do an action. > > Wikimedians will treat FDC as seriously as its members treat their own > work. So, at least, please take care about the accuracy of your language to > avoid misleading Wikimedians reading your emails. > On Apr 18, 2013 9:01 AM, "Patricio Lorente" > wrote: > >> Dear friends and colleagues, >> >> We want to share with you information about the Letter of Intent process >> and the FDC schedule for next year (July 2013 - June 2014). As you may >> remember, the *Letter of Intent (LoI)* is the first step towards applying >> for funds from the FDC, as discussed in the FDC framework [1]. This was not >> part of the first year's process, but is meant to be an integral part of >> the FDC calendar from this next round (Round 1, 2013-14) onwards. *The >> Letter of Intent asks all entities who intend to apply for Round 1 (or >> Round 2) to formally state their intention to do so.* In addition, the LoI >> now asks applying entities to include a notional dollar figure (or local >> currency figure) in the Letter of Intent. Applying entities will be able to >> update this amount in their final FDC proposals. The updated Letter of >> Intent template will be available on the FDC portal [2] by May 1, but the >> sample is here for reference [3]. >> >> With the Letter of Intent, the FDC staff can support applying entities in >> their proposal process well before the deadline for proposals. We hope this >> will remove some of the challenges faced by applicants in the first year of >> the FDC process. The FDC can also plan better with a clear understanding of >> who intends to apply, and an estimation of the funds requested. >> >> The FDC framework originally stated that the deadlines for the LoI were >> June 1 for Round 1 and November 1 for Round 2. However, we are pushing back >> the deadline *by one week*, since the community review period was also >> extended by two weeks. *The LOI deadline will now be June 8 for Round 1, >> and November 8 for Round 2. * >> >> For your reference, here is the updated 2013-2014 Round 1 proposal process >> schedule: >> >> >> - *Letter of Intent deadline for Round 1: 8 June 2013* >> - Deadline for WMF Staff to post eligibility: 15 July 2013 >> - Deadline for entities to meet eligibility requirements: 15 September >> 2013 >> - Proposal submission deadline: 1 October 2013 >> - Community review period: 1 October - 31 October 2013 >> - Staff assessment deadline: 8 November 2013 >> - FDC recommendation due: 1 December 2013 >> - Board decision due: 1 January 2014 >> >> >> The schedule for the 2013-14 Round 2 proposal process: >> >> - *Letter of Intent deadline for Round 1: 8 November 2013* >> - Deadline for WMF Staff to post eligibility: 15 December 2013 >> - Deadline for entities to meet eligibility requirements: 15 February >> 2014 >> - Proposal submission deadline: 1 March 2014 >> - Community review period: 1 March - 31 March 2014 >> - Staff assessment deadline: 8 April 2014 >> - FDC recommendation due: 1 May 2014 >> - Board decision due: 1 June 2014 >> >> >> It is our hope that the Letter of Intent process will help in planning for >> both the entities and the FDC, and ensure that the FDC and FDC staff are >> supporting the applying entities significantly ahead of the proposal >> deadlines. >> >> As always, do not hesitate to let us or the FDC support staff ( >> fdcsupp...@wikimedia.org) know if you have any questions or concerns about >> this important process. >> >> Warm regards, >> Patricio and Jan-Bart >> (Board representatives to the FDC) >> >> [1] >> >> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Funds_Dissemination_Committee/Framework_for_the_Creation_and_Initial_Operation_of_the_FDC#Process_overview >> [2] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/FDC_portal >> [3] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/FDC_portal/Sample_letter_of_intent >> >> >> -- >> Patricio Lorente >> Blog: http://www.patriciolorente.com.ar >> Identi.ca // Twitter: @patriciolorente >> ___ >> Wikimedia-l mailing list >> Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l >> > ___ > Wikimedia-l mailing list > Wikimedia-l@lists.wik
Re: [Wikimedia-l] FDC Letter of Intent process and schedule for 2013-14
It would be very useful to express the current state of the FDC in emails like this one -- at the top of email. For a couple of months I was mislead that FDC is actually working and that Wikimedia entities should do a kind of action toward FDC if they want to get funds. Contrary to that, just if emails like this one have been carefully read, one can conclude that all of them present lists of non-binding wishes for informational purpose, although it's explicitly stated that Wikimedia entities should do an action. Wikimedians will treat FDC as seriously as its members treat their own work. So, at least, please take care about the accuracy of your language to avoid misleading Wikimedians reading your emails. On Apr 18, 2013 9:01 AM, "Patricio Lorente" wrote: > Dear friends and colleagues, > > We want to share with you information about the Letter of Intent process > and the FDC schedule for next year (July 2013 - June 2014). As you may > remember, the *Letter of Intent (LoI)* is the first step towards applying > for funds from the FDC, as discussed in the FDC framework [1]. This was not > part of the first year's process, but is meant to be an integral part of > the FDC calendar from this next round (Round 1, 2013-14) onwards. *The > Letter of Intent asks all entities who intend to apply for Round 1 (or > Round 2) to formally state their intention to do so.* In addition, the LoI > now asks applying entities to include a notional dollar figure (or local > currency figure) in the Letter of Intent. Applying entities will be able to > update this amount in their final FDC proposals. The updated Letter of > Intent template will be available on the FDC portal [2] by May 1, but the > sample is here for reference [3]. > > With the Letter of Intent, the FDC staff can support applying entities in > their proposal process well before the deadline for proposals. We hope this > will remove some of the challenges faced by applicants in the first year of > the FDC process. The FDC can also plan better with a clear understanding of > who intends to apply, and an estimation of the funds requested. > > The FDC framework originally stated that the deadlines for the LoI were > June 1 for Round 1 and November 1 for Round 2. However, we are pushing back > the deadline *by one week*, since the community review period was also > extended by two weeks. *The LOI deadline will now be June 8 for Round 1, > and November 8 for Round 2. * > > For your reference, here is the updated 2013-2014 Round 1 proposal process > schedule: > > >- *Letter of Intent deadline for Round 1: 8 June 2013* >- Deadline for WMF Staff to post eligibility: 15 July 2013 >- Deadline for entities to meet eligibility requirements: 15 September >2013 >- Proposal submission deadline: 1 October 2013 >- Community review period: 1 October - 31 October 2013 >- Staff assessment deadline: 8 November 2013 >- FDC recommendation due: 1 December 2013 >- Board decision due: 1 January 2014 > > > The schedule for the 2013-14 Round 2 proposal process: > >- *Letter of Intent deadline for Round 1: 8 November 2013* >- Deadline for WMF Staff to post eligibility: 15 December 2013 >- Deadline for entities to meet eligibility requirements: 15 February >2014 >- Proposal submission deadline: 1 March 2014 >- Community review period: 1 March - 31 March 2014 >- Staff assessment deadline: 8 April 2014 >- FDC recommendation due: 1 May 2014 >- Board decision due: 1 June 2014 > > > It is our hope that the Letter of Intent process will help in planning for > both the entities and the FDC, and ensure that the FDC and FDC staff are > supporting the applying entities significantly ahead of the proposal > deadlines. > > As always, do not hesitate to let us or the FDC support staff ( > fdcsupp...@wikimedia.org) know if you have any questions or concerns about > this important process. > > Warm regards, > Patricio and Jan-Bart > (Board representatives to the FDC) > > [1] > > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Funds_Dissemination_Committee/Framework_for_the_Creation_and_Initial_Operation_of_the_FDC#Process_overview > [2] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/FDC_portal > [3] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/FDC_portal/Sample_letter_of_intent > > > -- > Patricio Lorente > Blog: http://www.patriciolorente.com.ar > Identi.ca // Twitter: @patriciolorente > ___ > Wikimedia-l mailing list > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l > ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
[Wikimedia-l] FDC Letter of Intent process and schedule for 2013-14
Dear friends and colleagues, We want to share with you information about the Letter of Intent process and the FDC schedule for next year (July 2013 - June 2014). As you may remember, the *Letter of Intent (LoI)* is the first step towards applying for funds from the FDC, as discussed in the FDC framework [1]. This was not part of the first year's process, but is meant to be an integral part of the FDC calendar from this next round (Round 1, 2013-14) onwards. *The Letter of Intent asks all entities who intend to apply for Round 1 (or Round 2) to formally state their intention to do so.* In addition, the LoI now asks applying entities to include a notional dollar figure (or local currency figure) in the Letter of Intent. Applying entities will be able to update this amount in their final FDC proposals. The updated Letter of Intent template will be available on the FDC portal [2] by May 1, but the sample is here for reference [3]. With the Letter of Intent, the FDC staff can support applying entities in their proposal process well before the deadline for proposals. We hope this will remove some of the challenges faced by applicants in the first year of the FDC process. The FDC can also plan better with a clear understanding of who intends to apply, and an estimation of the funds requested. The FDC framework originally stated that the deadlines for the LoI were June 1 for Round 1 and November 1 for Round 2. However, we are pushing back the deadline *by one week*, since the community review period was also extended by two weeks. *The LOI deadline will now be June 8 for Round 1, and November 8 for Round 2. * For your reference, here is the updated 2013-2014 Round 1 proposal process schedule: - *Letter of Intent deadline for Round 1: 8 June 2013* - Deadline for WMF Staff to post eligibility: 15 July 2013 - Deadline for entities to meet eligibility requirements: 15 September 2013 - Proposal submission deadline: 1 October 2013 - Community review period: 1 October - 31 October 2013 - Staff assessment deadline: 8 November 2013 - FDC recommendation due: 1 December 2013 - Board decision due: 1 January 2014 The schedule for the 2013-14 Round 2 proposal process: - *Letter of Intent deadline for Round 1: 8 November 2013* - Deadline for WMF Staff to post eligibility: 15 December 2013 - Deadline for entities to meet eligibility requirements: 15 February 2014 - Proposal submission deadline: 1 March 2014 - Community review period: 1 March - 31 March 2014 - Staff assessment deadline: 8 April 2014 - FDC recommendation due: 1 May 2014 - Board decision due: 1 June 2014 It is our hope that the Letter of Intent process will help in planning for both the entities and the FDC, and ensure that the FDC and FDC staff are supporting the applying entities significantly ahead of the proposal deadlines. As always, do not hesitate to let us or the FDC support staff ( fdcsupp...@wikimedia.org) know if you have any questions or concerns about this important process. Warm regards, Patricio and Jan-Bart (Board representatives to the FDC) [1] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Funds_Dissemination_Committee/Framework_for_the_Creation_and_Initial_Operation_of_the_FDC#Process_overview [2] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/FDC_portal [3] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/FDC_portal/Sample_letter_of_intent -- Patricio Lorente Blog: http://www.patriciolorente.com.ar Identi.ca // Twitter: @patriciolorente ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
