Re: [Wikimedia-l] French intelligency agency forces removal of aWikipedia article

2013-04-05 Thread Peter Southwood

Well that's one way of drawing attention to the site...

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Hi there,
I guess you might be interested to hear that Direction Centrale du
Renseignement Intérieur (Central Directorate of Interior Intelligence,
DCRI), a French intelligence agency that reports directly to the
Ministry of the Interior, has apparently forced a French Wikipedia
administrator to delete an article that in their opinion—as I
understand it—revelead classified information deemed very harmful to
the French national defence (compromission du secret de la Défense
nationale).

Interestingly, they contacted the WMF legal team with a request to
remove (delete? suppress?) this article a couple of weeks before that,
but were refused after failing to provide further information on why
the article should be removed (in the words of a Foundation legal
counsel).

Undounted by that, they approached the said administrator — who
operates under his real name, so I guess it was pretty easy to track
him — and asked him to delete this article, a request which he
obliged. (The article has since been restored by a different
administrator). As far as I understand, the version of the article
they wanted to have deleted was
https://fr.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?oldid=81104004.

I guess that when an intelligence agency asks their citizen to remove
information from Wikipedia citing the penal code (article 413-11 of
the French penal code in this case), it is something worth sharing (no
harm intended).

Further reading in English:
* https://fr.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prevoldid=91703508
* https://fr.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?oldid=91705235

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Tomasz W. Kozłowski
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] French intelligency agency forces removal of aWikipedia article

2013-04-05 Thread Craig Franklin
...and ensuring its translated into as many languages as possible!
On 06/04/2013 7:10 AM, Peter Southwood peter.southw...@telkomsa.net
wrote:

 Well that's one way of drawing attention to the site...

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 Sent: Friday, April 05, 2013 7:41 PM
 Subject: [Wikimedia-l] French intelligency agency forces removal of
 aWikipedia article


  Hi there,
 I guess you might be interested to hear that Direction Centrale du
 Renseignement Intérieur (Central Directorate of Interior Intelligence,
 DCRI), a French intelligence agency that reports directly to the
 Ministry of the Interior, has apparently forced a French Wikipedia
 administrator to delete an article that in their opinion—as I
 understand it—revelead classified information deemed very harmful to
 the French national defence (compromission du secret de la Défense
 nationale).

 Interestingly, they contacted the WMF legal team with a request to
 remove (delete? suppress?) this article a couple of weeks before that,
 but were refused after failing to provide further information on why
 the article should be removed (in the words of a Foundation legal
 counsel).

 Undounted by that, they approached the said administrator — who
 operates under his real name, so I guess it was pretty easy to track
 him — and asked him to delete this article, a request which he
 obliged. (The article has since been restored by a different
 administrator). As far as I understand, the version of the article
 they wanted to have deleted was
 https://fr.wikipedia.org/w/**index.php?oldid=81104004https://fr.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?oldid=81104004
 .

 I guess that when an intelligence agency asks their citizen to remove
 information from Wikipedia citing the penal code (article 413-11 of
 the French penal code in this case), it is something worth sharing (no
 harm intended).

 Further reading in English:
 * 
 https://fr.wikipedia.org/w/**index.php?diff=prevoldid=**91703508https://fr.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prevoldid=91703508
 
 * 
 https://fr.wikipedia.org/w/**index.php?oldid=91705235https://fr.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?oldid=91705235
 

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