Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Introducing Kourosh Karimkhany, Vice President of Strategic Partnerships

2015-04-05 Thread Craig Franklin
Hello, Might I suggest that if folks want to continue talking about this, they rename this thread, as it is no longer about Kourosh Karimkhany, and it is just creating background noise for those of us who have no desire to discuss the whole Wikipedia Zero freedom thing yet again? Cheers, Craig

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Introducing Kourosh Karimkhany, Vice President of Strategic Partnerships

2015-04-05 Thread Lilburne
Boi, All comparisons of WP with other sources were cherry picked. They picked articles where the science was well established, or they picked articles which were being edit warred to exhaustion if you know of comparisons where that isn't the case then cough them up. Wikipedia happens to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Introducing Kourosh Karimkhany, Vice President of Strategic Partnerships

2015-04-05 Thread Lilburne
On 05/04/2015 06:36, Gerard Meijssen wrote: Hoi, Reliable is not an absolute. Wikipedia is in the final analysis an encyclopaedia. It is not original research. One can indeed engage in original research by cherry picking the sources. Studies have indicated that Wikipedia is as reliable as

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Introducing Kourosh Karimkhany, Vice President of Strategic Partnerships

2015-04-05 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Research is not what we compete with. Research is not encyclopaedic either. The research I refer to compared a set of subjects and compared those in several sources... Then again why bore you with information you already could know.. Cherry picking an article from Brittanica is wonderful, it

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Introducing Kourosh Karimkhany, Vice President of Strategic Partnerships

2015-04-04 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Reliable is not an absolute. Wikipedia is in the final analysis an encyclopaedia. It is not original research. Studies have indicated that Wikipedia is as reliable as its competitors. Wikipedia does link ever more to the VIAF indicators by the OCLC and thereby it links to the sum of all

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Introducing Kourosh Karimkhany, Vice President of Strategic Partnerships

2015-04-04 Thread Cristian Consonni
Hi Andreas, 2015-04-02 18:25 GMT+02:00 Andreas Kolbe jayen...@gmail.com: On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 3:00 PM, Cristian Consonni kikkocrist...@gmail.com wrote: 2015-04-02 15:16 GMT+02:00 Andreas Kolbe jayen...@gmail.com: As mentioned previously, what I have seen is recent additions to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Introducing Kourosh Karimkhany, Vice President of Strategic Partnerships

2015-04-04 Thread Anthony Cole
No one would care about Wikipedia Zero if Wikipedia was a reliable source. Anthony Cole http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Anthonyhcole On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 1:44 AM, Cristian Consonni kikkocrist...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Andreas, 2015-04-02 18:25 GMT+02:00 Andreas Kolbe

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Introducing Kourosh Karimkhany, Vice President of Strategic Partnerships

2015-04-02 Thread Andreas Kolbe
Mike, With all due respect to your longstanding work on internet issues, you said there were no facts to support an argument that zero-rating one product, when all others are subject to a consumer charge, suppresses competition. I pointed out that Lohninger, AccessNow and EFF consider it obvious

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Introducing Kourosh Karimkhany, Vice President of Strategic Partnerships

2015-04-02 Thread Cristian Consonni
2015-04-02 15:16 GMT+02:00 Andreas Kolbe jayen...@gmail.com: I pointed out that Lohninger, AccessNow and EFF consider it obvious that there is such an effect. Not so obvious, in my opinion. The EFF says about Wikipedia zero that it is a laudable effort[1] even acknowledging that it may harm

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Introducing Kourosh Karimkhany, Vice President of Strategic Partnerships

2015-04-02 Thread Andreas Kolbe
On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 3:00 PM, Cristian Consonni kikkocrist...@gmail.com wrote: 2015-04-02 15:16 GMT+02:00 Andreas Kolbe jayen...@gmail.com: I pointed out that Lohninger, AccessNow and EFF consider it obvious that there is such an effect. I keep hearing this argument, but what myself (and