Re: [Wikimedia-l] GLAM Mailing lists

2015-06-10 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 8 June 2015 at 23:35, Bohdan Melnychuk bas...@yandex.ru wrote:

 I'm sorry if some of the lists I listed were intended as cabalish and not to
 be disclosed to others. I don't think cabalish lists are a good way to
 collaborate for wikimedians.

Cabalish is rather a pejorative term. We have a closed GLAM list so
that we can have frank discussions without embarrassing our partner
organisations. if ether was no such list, then those discussions would
move to private emails, not become public.


-- 
Andy Mabbett
@pigsonthewing
http://pigsonthewing.org.uk

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[Wikimedia-l] GLAM Mailing lists

2015-06-08 Thread Bohdan Melnychuk

Hi guys.

Just how many GLAM lists do we have?

Not counting regional ones, I know of GLAM, Cultural-Partners, 
Libraries, got to know about existence of some the paris group (not 
sure if it's even a mailing list technically, but in case it's not then 
it's weird even more). Perhaps there are some (or is it many?) others.


Should they not be all listed in one place, e.g. on 
https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Mailing_lists with clear data 
about who manages them, what are their scope, rules and how you might 
joint them?


Just having many is already confusing but when you can't even get a list 
of all of them it's confusing even more.


I'm sorry if some of the lists I listed were intended as cabalish and 
not to be disclosed to others. I don't think cabalish lists are a good 
way to collaborate for wikimedians.


Yours sincerely,
Base

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] GLAM Mailing lists

2015-06-08 Thread Philippe Beaudette
The canonical home for the list of lists is
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo.  While it is possible to have
a list hidden from there, it would be pretty unusual for a GLAM list, I
think.

pb


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On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 5:35 PM, Bohdan Melnychuk bas...@yandex.ru wrote:

 Hi guys.

 Just how many GLAM lists do we have?

 Not counting regional ones, I know of GLAM, Cultural-Partners, Libraries,
 got to know about existence of some the paris group (not sure if it's
 even a mailing list technically, but in case it's not then it's weird even
 more). Perhaps there are some (or is it many?) others.

 Should they not be all listed in one place, e.g. on
 https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Mailing_lists with clear data
 about who manages them, what are their scope, rules and how you might joint
 them?

 Just having many is already confusing but when you can't even get a list
 of all of them it's confusing even more.

 I'm sorry if some of the lists I listed were intended as cabalish and not
 to be disclosed to others. I don't think cabalish lists are a good way to
 collaborate for wikimedians.

 Yours sincerely,
 Base

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] GLAM Mailing lists

2015-06-08 Thread Bohdan Melnychuk
Your comment does not cover the fact that not all lists are hosted by 
lists.wikimedia.org.


E.g. cultural partnership is here:

https://intern.wikimedia.ch/lists/listinfo/cultural-partners

Some other chapters also host lists and there're googlegroups to consider. 
That's a one thing why a mere server listing of lists does not suffice. Another 
is that an automatical list listing isn't where you can write rules, membership 
procedure/criteria and other stuff needed for transparency. Well not just 
transparency issue but also of need to concentrate data in one place is to be 
considered.
--Base


On 09.06.2015 3:40, Philippe Beaudette wrote:

The canonical home for the list of lists is
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo.  While it is possible to have
a list hidden from there, it would be pretty unusual for a GLAM list, I
think.

pb


*Philippe Beaudette * \\  Director, Community Advocacy \\ Wikimedia
Foundation, Inc.
T: 1-415-839-6885 x6643 |  phili...@wikimedia.org  |  :  @Philippewiki
https://twitter.com/Philippewiki

On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 5:35 PM, Bohdan Melnychuk bas...@yandex.ru wrote:


Hi guys.

Just how many GLAM lists do we have?

Not counting regional ones, I know of GLAM, Cultural-Partners, Libraries,
got to know about existence of some the paris group (not sure if it's
even a mailing list technically, but in case it's not then it's weird even
more). Perhaps there are some (or is it many?) others.

Should they not be all listed in one place, e.g. on
https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Mailing_lists with clear data
about who manages them, what are their scope, rules and how you might joint
them?

Just having many is already confusing but when you can't even get a list
of all of them it's confusing even more.

I'm sorry if some of the lists I listed were intended as cabalish and not
to be disclosed to others. I don't think cabalish lists are a good way to
collaborate for wikimedians.

Yours sincerely,
Base

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